Episode

Abel Avellan on CNBC

2026-05-18 5:37 Abel Avellan · Unidentified guest

This episode is a CNBC television interview with AST SpaceMobile Chairman and CEO Abel Avellan, aired the morning of May 18, 2026.

An unidentified CNBC anchor questions Avellan about the newly announced AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite joint venture, AST's 2026 satellite deployment plans following the New Glenn launch failure, competition from Starlink and Amazon/Kuiper-Globalstar, AST's spectrum position, and the SpaceX IPO.

The headline conclusion is that Avellan frames the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture as validation and expansion of AST's business ("now every American can get our service").

He reaffirms AST is "on target" for 45 satellites this year despite the recent launch failure, and asserts AST's combined spectrum and large-satellite technology position is unmatched by competitors.

Key Takeaways

  • Abel Avellan called the newly announced AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite joint venture "great news," describing it as an effort to make direct-to-device connectivity standard and available in every phone for every US carrier, with AST positioned as a "key enabler" now giving it access to every operator in the United States.
  • Avellan reaffirmed AST's 2026 target of 45 satellites, stating the company is 'on target,' is currently shipping the next batch of satellites to the launch pad, and expects launches approximately every month using multiple launch providers including SpaceX — this despite the recent Blue Origin New Glenn launch that failed to deploy an AST satellite into its correct position.
  • Avellan claimed AST is the only satellite broadband system technologically capable of delivering hundreds of megabits per second directly to an unmodified device, citing AST's invention of the first satellite voice call, first 5G satellite connection, and first satellite broadband connection, plus a recent demonstration of close to 100 Mbps from space directly to a regular phone.
  • On spectrum, Avellan said AST owns over 45 MHz of spectrum in North America (a reference to its Ligado L-band deal), holds priority rights to roughly 60 MHz outside North America, and separately has access to partner (MNO) IMT spectrum where some partners can allocate close to 100 MHz to AST's network — a combined position he said nobody else in the industry has.
  • Avellan holds over 3,800 patents and patent-pending claims related to large phased-array satellite technology, which he argues is the physics-driven reason large satellites (not small ones) are required to receive low-power signals from ordinary phones.
  • Discussing competition from Starlink's direct-to-cell service and Amazon's Kuiper (via its acquisition of Globalstar), Avellan framed satellite broadband as a market expansion of the wireless ecosystem rather than a replacement for terrestrial networks, and said AST partners with over 50 mobile operators.
  • Asked about the SpaceX IPO, Avellan called it a "game changer" for the space sector that creates a new investable category, provides valuation visibility for recurring connectivity revenue, and validates space-based connectivity as a growth market rather than a threat to AST.

Detailed Discussion5 topics

AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile Joint Venture and AST's Role

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  • Speaker A Untagged 00:00:00

    Asked Avellan how AST will play into the newly announced joint venture between the largest US telecom providers to add space-enabled connectivity.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:00:10

    Described the joint venture as an effort to make direct-to-device connectivity available to every American in a standardized way, available in every device for every carrier, calling it "great news" and saying "now every American can get our service."

  • Speaker A Untagged 00:00:27

    Asked for more details on the specific relationship and the role AST will play in the joint venture.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:00:30

    Did not give specific commercial terms, but said AST is the only broadband system with the technology to deliver hundreds of megabits per second directly to any device, calling AST "a key enabler" for the joint venture given it invented the first satellite voice call, first 5G satellite connection, and first satellite broadband connection.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:00:30

    Said that "just a few weeks back" AST demonstrated close to 100 megabits per second from space directly to a regular phone.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:04:55

    Said AST now has access to every operator in the United States as a result of the joint venture, and that the company already has partnerships with over 50 operators globally.

2026 Satellite Deployment Guidance and New Glenn Launch Failure

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  • Speaker A Untagged 00:01:19

    Noted AST recently released earnings and maintained full-year revenue guidance, but said investors are focused on how quickly AST can build and deploy its BlueBird satellites; referenced the recent Blue Origin New Glenn rocket launch that ultimately failed to deploy AST's satellites into their correct positions, and asked whether AST's target of 45 satellites for the year still stands.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:01:49

    Confirmed the 45-satellite target for the year still stands, saying AST is "on target today," is currently shipping the next batch of satellites to the launch pad, and expects launches approximately every month using multiple launch-provider partners, including SpaceX.

Competitive Landscape: Starlink and Amazon/Kuiper-Globalstar

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  • Speaker A Untagged 00:02:16

    Described seeing Starlink connectivity working in remote parts of Alaska above the Arctic Circle with no roads or running water, and asked how Avellan views the competitive landscape given Starlink's push into direct-to-device and Amazon's Kuiper LEO constellation acquiring Globalstar.

  • Abel Avellan Speculation 00:02:38

    Argued the industry transformation is about speed and capacity to the phone, not just coverage in remote areas — framing it as broadband connectivity mattering even in everyday scenarios like a drive, not just "the middle of nowhere."

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:02:38

    Said achieving hundreds of megabits per second to any unmodified device requires spectrum and, critically, large satellites, because large arrays are needed physically to receive the very low power signal emitted by a small handheld device — citing AST's portfolio of over 3,800 patents and patent-pending claims covering this approach.

Spectrum Position

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  • Speaker A Speculation 00:03:43

    Argued spectrum may be an even more prized commodity than energy going forward, given the connectivity needs of the AI revolution.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:03:59

    Agreed, saying AST made a large investment/bet on spectrum: it owns over 45 megahertz of spectrum in North America, holds priority rights to roughly 60 megahertz of spectrum outside North America, and separately has access to partner MNOs' existing IMT spectrum already resident on phones — with some partners able to allocate close to 100 megahertz to AST's network.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:03:59

    Said that combining AST's own spectrum with access to low-band, mid-band, and future MSS spectrum through partners gives AST more available spectrum than any competitor, calling this the foundation of its large-satellite broadband strategy.

SpaceX IPO

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  • Speaker A Untagged 00:04:52

    Asked whether a SpaceX IPO would be a game changer for the sector overall.

  • Abel Avellan Speculation 00:04:55

    Called a SpaceX IPO a game changer that creates a new investable category and provides valuation visibility for recurring connectivity revenue from space, characterizing it as market expansion for the wireless ecosystem rather than a replacement of it.

Watch Items2

  • 45 BlueBird satellites planned to launch in 2026, with Avellan saying AST is 'on target,' shipping the next batch to the launch pad, and expecting launches approximately every month via multiple providers including SpaceX

    During 2026 (full year) Abel Avellan 00:01:49
  • Specific commercial role/terms AST will play within the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite connectivity joint venture

    Not yet detailed as of this interview Abel Avellan 00:00:30

Open Questions2

  • What specific commercial role and terms will AST have within the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture, beyond being described as a 'key enabler'?

    Speaker A 00:00:27
  • How will AST's satellite deployment cadence and technology differentiate against Starlink's direct-to-device push and Amazon's Kuiper (via its Globalstar acquisition) over the longer term?

    Speaker A 00:02:16

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: get to here with you. But first, let's start with this idea of a joint venture between the largest U.S. telecom providers to add space-enabled connectivity. How will you play in that?
[00:00:10] Speaker B: Well, I think that's an effort to make direct-to-device connectivity to every American and basically make it in a way that is standard, available in every device, in every phone for every carrier. And for that, that's great. It's great news. And it's now every American can get our service.
[00:00:27] Speaker A: Can you share any details in terms of that relationship and the role you'll play in it?
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Well, I think we are the only broadband system that is available in terms of the technology to basically do hundreds of megabits per second directly to any device. This is a change of how the operator thinks about where the connectivity from space plays a role in your day-to-day usage of the technology. And I believe this is great news for us. It's a— we are a key enabler for this. We invented this. We did the first voice call over satellite, the first 5G connection over satellite, the first broadband connection over satellite. And just a few weeks back, we demonstrated close to 100 megabits per second from space directly to your phone. And that's very, very unique and a very nice position to be in as the world is transforming how people connect.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I want to get into that a little bit more here in just a moment. You also recently released earnings, maintained full-year revenue guidance. The thing that investors really focus on is these Bloomberg satellites and how quickly you can build them and deploy them. I mean, we did see that Blue Origin New Glenn rocket launch that ultimately ended in a failure to deploy your satellites in the correct positions and, and to be able to start operating and working. 45 satellites is still your plan for this year. What does that look like?
[00:01:49] Speaker B: It is. We're on target today. We're shipping the next batch of satellites to the launch pad. We have launches approximately every month and now it's opening. I mean, we have multiple launch providers as partners, including SpaceX, and we are very excited about what will happen during the year in terms of launches and in terms of multiple launches that we have with multiple partners for, for doing that.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Speaking of SpaceX, I was just in Alaska over the weekend and it's incredible. You go to parts of the wilderness above the Arctic Circle, there's no roads. In some cases there's no running water, but there is Starlink. So how do you think about this competitive landscape and this competitive environment when Starlink is looking to do direct-to-device as well? And then, of course, you have Amazon's LEO buying Globalstar.
[00:02:38] Speaker B: Yeah. I think this all revolves about the speed and capacity that you can get into the phone. What has changed, the transformation that is happening in the wireless industry, is that space is not just when you're in the middle of nowhere. It's when you're driving from here to the Hamptons and when your connectivity is not as good as you expected. So broadband will make the difference, making it available to absolutely every device without any change to the device and really get hundreds of megabits per second into the device for For that, you need spectrum, you need satellites, and more importantly, you need large satellites, because that's really where the tricks happen. It's physics. You need large satellites that have the ability to listen to the very small power that a small device puts in going up to space. And that's what we have. We have over 3,800 patents and patent-pending claims on how to do that. That's what we have demonstrated. And what we're showing— we're showing up today. It's not a future demonstration. We just recently— announced over 100 megabits, close to 100 megabits per second directly to a regular device.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: Yeah, forget energy. I would actually argue that spectrum is probably one of the most prized commodities out there and continue to— will be— continue— will continue to be, because arguably even more than energy, you need full connectivity to fully realize this AI revolution.
[00:03:59] Speaker B: Absolutely. I mean, that's why we make a huge investment. We did a big bet that actually is paying off. We bought spectrum in North America, over 45 megahertz of spectrum. We have priority rights outside North America. We're around 60 megahertz of spectrum. And more importantly, together with the partners, we have access to their IMT regular spectrum that is already on the phones. So some of our partners have close to 100 megahertz of spectrum that they can allocate to our network. Nobody has anything close to that. So in terms of available spectrum, we When you combine our ability to address low-band, mid-band, and future MSS spectrum, we have more than anybody else. So broadband is the future. We focus on making the satellites large for that. We focus on investing billions of dollars to get this technology to work. We are on the verge of starting to deploy it.
[00:04:52] Speaker A: Very quickly, SpaceX IPO, game changer for the sector overall?
[00:04:55] Speaker B: I think it creates a new category that is great for everybody in the space. I think it provides the visibility. And if you think about what is really the recurrent revenue come from that? It's connectivity. So connectivity, it is a game changer. It's a new revolution for this, for the wireless industry. And a lot of that will come from space. And we see it as a market expansion. So we don't see this as a replacement. We see this as an expansion of what the wireless ecosystem can do. And that's why we partner with every single one. We have over 50 operators where we have partnerships, including now we will have access to every operator in the United States.

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