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2026-06-01 49:07

Anpanman - Launch Agnosticism and Market Volatility

Anpanman

In this solo X Spaces recap, Anpanman addresses the broad 'red day' pullback across space stocks (ASTS down about 9%) as normal consolidation after a big run-up.

He then does a deep dive into AST SpaceMobile's launch-agnostic satellite design, and how the company plans to backfill Blue Origin New Glenn's recent launch setback with SpaceX Falcon 9 and eventually ULA Vulcan Centaur capacity.

He argues the widely cited '45 satellites by year-end' figure was always a stretch goal, and that production cadence, not a hard satellite count, is the metric that matters.

The episode closes with off-topic portfolio updates on T1 Energy, Kraken Robotics, various SPAC situations, Ensilica, and a cursory look at Gilat Satellite Networks.

Key Takeaways

  • Space-sector stocks broadly sold off (many names down 12-15%), which Anpanman frames as normal consolidation after a large recent run-up compounded by the Blue Origin New Glenn launch anomaly; AST SpaceMobile (ASTS) was down about 9% on the day.
  • The often-cited '45 satellites by year-end' figure for AST SpaceMobile was always an approximate stretch goal in Anpanman's view, and he believes the company likely won't hit it without New Glenn's planned contribution.
  • New Glenn's flight 3 booster succeeded but failed to deliver its BlueBird satellite payload to the correct orbit; Anpanman estimates this will delay Blue Origin's contribution to AST's launch campaign by roughly 6-7 months (his own estimate, calling it 'probably optimistic').
  • AST SpaceMobile's satellites are deliberately designed to be 'launch agnostic' — able to fit inside any standard payload fairing — which lets the company backfill lost Blue Origin capacity with dedicated SpaceX Falcon 9 launches.
  • Anpanman says AST's Blue Origin New Glenn multi-launch agreement (signed in fall 2024) reportedly required no upfront launch prepayments, a nuance he says a recent public critic (correcting Tim Ferriss) got wrong.
  • ULA's Vulcan Centaur is currently grounded after solid-rocket-booster nozzle anomalies on its prior two missions; AST has launches booked on Vulcan Centaur and, per Anpanman's estimate, might get roughly one BlueBird launch on it by the end of the year, picking up more in 2027.
  • Anpanman dismisses a Mandarin-language social media claim that Starlink's V2 direct-to-cell satellites will dominate the market soon, arguing Starlink can't integrate EchoStar spectrum into phones until 2028 and Starship still needs to reach commercial cadence, with second-stage reusability being the hard, still-unsolved part (he guesses 2029-2030).
  • Responding to a Rocket Lab shareholder's claim that ASTS is riskier than Rocket Lab due to launch dependency, Anpanman argues ASTS is diversified across SpaceX, Blue Origin, ULA and potentially Rocket Lab's own Neutron, whereas Rocket Lab is entirely dependent on Neutron succeeding.
  • Anpanman argues production cadence between satellite batches is a more meaningful metric than any single year-end satellite-count target, noting AST now has storage space at Cape Canaveral for satellites awaiting launch.
  • Outside of ASTS, Anpanman expects news within 3-4 weeks on a T1 Energy strategic funding package (likely debt-heavy, possibly with some equity) to cover phase 1 of its G2 Austin facility, and notes that if T1's stock closes above $11.50 before warrants expire around July 8-9, 2026, that would trigger roughly $283 million in exercise proceeds toward phase 2.
  • Anpanman discussed Kraken Robotics (which he owns), noting it became tradeable on Robinhood after being OTC-only, and that its pending Covela acquisition is expected to roughly double the company's revenue and profitability.
  • Anpanman flagged Ensilica as the company that designed AST SpaceMobile's AST5000 ASIC chip, noting it collects both engineering fees and an ongoing per-unit royalty on every AST5000 produced.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Space sector red day / market volatility

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Today is a red day for space stocks, with a number of names down 12-15%; ASTS is down only about 9% because 'we paid our dues and took lumps on Friday.' He attributes the pullback to a natural consolidation after a tremendous run-up rather than anything company-specific.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    SpaceX's funding roadshow kicks off Thursday, June 4th, with pricing expected June 11th; Anpanman guesses they'll spend 1-2 days in Europe and the rest in the US hitting major cities, possibly with Zoom meetings, which he expects will draw more institutional interest into the broader space sector.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Some traders were speculating that WallStreetBets participants were mistaking Virgin Galactic (SPCE) for SpaceX, driving up SPCE; Anpanman thinks it's more likely that heavily-shorted names like SPCE simply become trading vehicles, and he would not be surprised if Virgin Galactic announces a capital raise soon given the stock's rebound.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    He recommends investors keep a watchlist of comparable sector names (e.g., for solar: TOYO, Canadian Solar, First Solar, SolarEdge, Enphase) so that a single stock's drop can be understood in the context of sector-wide beta rather than assumed to be company-specific.

ASTS satellite count guidance and launch-agnostic strategy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The widely referenced '45 satellites by end of year' figure was always an approximate, stretch-goal number, not firm guidance; based on his own calculations, he thinks the company probably won't reach that number without New Glenn's contribution.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He pushes back on people demanding an 8-K or PR update on satellite counts, arguing the company doesn't need to disclose anything yet since it may still fill out additional launches and hit close to the original target; the company will update the market on its own timeline.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile satellites were deliberately built to be 'launch agnostic' — able to fit inside any standard payload fairing on any of multiple launch vehicles — a design choice originally motivated by concerns about launch-provider tightness or geopolitical risk.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    As a historical example of this contingency planning, BlueWalker 3 was originally slated to launch on a Soyuz rocket out of Kazakhstan, but the plan was scrapped after the Russia-Ukraine conflict erupted, before the satellite was shipped there.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He argues the key metric to watch isn't the year-end satellite count but the production cadence between satellite batches — how quickly each new batch of 3 ships and the rate of change after that — and notes the company now has storage space at Cape Canaveral to hold satellites awaiting launch, implying a ramp in production.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    If the year-end target slips from 45 to something like 35 or 40 satellites, or the timeline slips by a few months, Anpanman doesn't think that matters much in the grand scheme of things.

Blue Origin New Glenn setback and Falcon 9 backfill

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    On New Glenn's recent flights, the booster succeeded on flights 2 and 3, but flight 3 failed to place AST's satellite into the proper orbit — an early-program anomaly he calls a 'big wake-up call' after the industry had gotten used to SpaceX's Falcon 9 reliability.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST signed a multi-launch agreement with Blue Origin in fall 2024 (alongside agreements with SpaceX and ISRO at the same time) as an early believer in New Glenn, becoming one of the few companies launching over 400 tons into space and a 'marquee customer' for Blue Origin.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Per his understanding from talking with management, part of the attraction of the Blue Origin deal's economics was that AST didn't need to put down prepayments for launch slots, unlike some other arrangements — a detail he says a Twitter critique of Tim Ferriss's commentary got wrong.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He estimates New Glenn's next flight (and thus its resumed contribution to AST's launch campaign) will be pushed out roughly 6-7 months, 'and that's probably optimistic' — potentially 7-8 months from the time of recording.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    In the meantime, AST will rely on Falcon 9, and the company will need to negotiate with SpaceX for additional launches beyond what's already contracted; it's unclear whether the existing contract covers 5, 10, or 15 launches. Falcon 9's flight heritage and stable cadence make it 'a luxury' relative to newer vehicles.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Buying a dedicated (non-rideshare) Falcon 9 launch is achievable if you're willing to pay for it, even though the majority of Falcon 9 cargo is Starlink; finding a rideshare slot is much harder than buying an entire dedicated launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    AST is on track to launch via Falcon 9 in about 2 weeks from the time of recording, with a firm target date expected by the end of that week, based on past precedent for how the company communicates.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:53

    He forecasts a Falcon 9 launch in about 2 weeks, another in July (probably early July), and then roughly one launch a month for the rest of the year, noting cadence (not per-launch satellite count) is what should reassure the market once it adjusts to Blue Origin being off the table for now.

ULA Vulcan Centaur and National Security Launch (NSSL) priority

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    ULA's Vulcan Centaur is currently grounded due to two anomalies (solid rocket booster nozzles popping off) on its prior two missions; the missions still succeeded, but an investigation is ongoing, which Anpanman thinks concludes 'sometime in September, or maybe August.'

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST has disclosed that it has booked launches with ULA's Vulcan Centaur; Anpanman estimates that could contribute around one BlueBird launch by the end of this year, picking up more in 2027.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    He notes Vulcan Centaur once launched a dummy payload (around November/December of last year) to complete certification when the original government cargo wasn't ready — illustrating how AST's steady satellite production could let it slot in when other customers' cargo isn't ready.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Under National Security Launch (NSSL) rules, the US government could give AST launch priority on vehicles like Vulcan Centaur or Falcon 9 if deemed necessary for defense purposes; Anpanman speculates there could be related announcements in the next 2-3 months given ongoing defense work.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He acknowledges that neither he nor, he believes, the company itself yet knows which contingency path ('Plan B,' 'B-sub-1,' 'B-sub-2,' 'B-sub-3') will ultimately be used to backfill lost New Glenn capacity, and asks investors to give management time to work it out.

Competitive landscape: Starlink Direct to Cell and Rocket Lab Neutron

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:17:59

    A Mandarin-speaking Twitter account criticized a tweet (from 'Shai Ballor,' phonetic) about AST vs. Starlink, claiming Starlink will dominate with its V2 direct-to-cell satellite launching 'next year, no problem,' also citing Amazon/Globalstar and Iridium as big competitors. Anpanman says this reflects a clear misunderstanding of the direct-to-device market's dynamics; he chose not to engage beyond a laughing-face reply.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:59

    Starlink's V2 satellites can't be incorporated into direct-to-cell phone service using EchoStar's spectrum until 2028, and Starship still needs to reach commercial cadence, with second-stage reusability being the truly hard, unresolved part — Anpanman guesses that could realistically be 2029 or 2030.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:20:53

    A Rocket Lab shareholder ('Benny the Bull') argued AST SpaceMobile is riskier than Rocket Lab because of its dependence on Blue Origin. Anpanman rebutted that AST is launch-agnostic (could even use Rocket Lab's own Neutron) and diversified across providers, whereas Rocket Lab itself carries full single-launch-vehicle risk on Neutron.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:53

    As a rough capacity comparison (his own estimate): Neutron could carry at most about 3 BlueBird satellites in expendable form; Blue Origin's New Glenn 7x2 configuration could carry about 8, and the eventual 9x4 configuration around 12.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:20:53

    He notes that one of Rocket Lab Neutron's structures reportedly cracked under stress testing about 2-3 weeks earlier; he frames this as a normal, healthy part of a testing program (finding and reinforcing weak points before flight) rather than a red flag.

Other launch providers and market dynamics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:53

    He speculates ('my money would be') that AST is likely booking launches with Arianespace, tied to supporting the European space program as part of AST's effort to secure 2 GHz of MSS spectrum allocation in Europe — describing it as a 'pay-to-play' dynamic.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:53

    He's been following Relativity Space's Terran R heavy-lift rocket (backed partly by Eric Schmidt), which he estimates could carry 6-8 BlueBirds if it performs as claimed, with a launch expected sometime in 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:53

    Relaying a point he says Kook made (though he admits he half-fell asleep listening to Kook's own space and only caught it partially), the market has a short memory and will refocus positively on ASTS once it gets used to Falcon 9 handling the launch cadence in Blue Origin's absence.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    Asked why Falcon Heavy isn't discussed more as a launch option, Anpanman said he isn't certain but guesses Falcon Heavy is more expensive than standard Falcon 9 and may not be the right economic choice, adding he 'could be wrong there.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    Asked whether AST should pivot to Falcon Heavy (cost aside) to launch more BlueBirds per flight, Anpanman said it's possible and that AST could find out with the next targeted launch confirmation for BB-8, 9, and 10, but noted stacking multiple satellites (e.g., up to 6) requires engineering time to ensure the bottom satellites can structurally support the ones on top.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    Asked what stops SpaceX from refusing future launches once AST's contracted slots are used up, Anpanman argued SpaceX is subject to DOJ, FCC, and Department of War/government oversight, and that anti-competitive behavior would undermine SpaceX's own business model since it also launches competitors' payloads (Amazon LEO, Globalstar, Iridium); as long as a customer pays and its satellite won't jeopardize the vehicle, SpaceX will sell capacity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    As an example, he notes StarCloud (an in-space data center company) is solely dependent on Starship, which is why its CEO is friendly toward Musk — but SpaceX will also launch its own competing data centers, illustrating the broader industry dynamic.

T1 Energy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    T1 Energy is putting together a strategic funding package, with news expected in the next 3-4 weeks; he understands the most attractive option under consideration is primarily debt, possibly with some equity or equity-linked component, and possibly new strategic investors.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    The funding package is intended to cover the remainder of T1 Energy's needs for phase 1 of its G2 Austin facility.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:28:56

    T1 Energy stock is around $10 but hit $11.40-$11.50 last week; if it closes above $11.50 before warrants expire on July 8th or 9th, it would trigger exercise bringing in $283 million, which could fund a significant portion of G2 Austin's second phase.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    He describes a potential 'virtuous cycle': a strong funding package announcement could push the stock above $11.50, triggering the warrant exercise, further boosting the stock — calling this outcome 'ideal.' He expects T1 Energy news before quarter-end, June 30, 2026.

Kraken Robotics, SPACs, and Ensilica

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:28:56

    Kraken Robotics (which Anpanman owns and has traded) became available for trading on Robinhood as of the preceding Friday, having previously been OTC-only (with an 'F' suffix on its symbol); he attributes a stock bump partly to this new accessibility.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    Kraken's pending acquisition of Covela (a complementary underwater-vehicle component provider) is expected to roughly double Kraken's revenue and profitability and is expected to close in the next few weeks; after closing, Anpanman expects Kraken to pursue uplisting to a major Canadian exchange and eventually to Nasdaq or NYSE.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    He views the unmanned underwater drone market as less crowded than the aerial drone market, and sees Kraken as one of the few pure-play ways to invest in it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    He's been researching both older post-de-SPAC names (T1 Energy, the acquired Satisfye, Bridger Aerospace, Strata/SRTA) and newer SPAC deals; he cited USAR, a critical-minerals company now trading around $30, whose strength he attributes partly to a Trump administration equity stake, and says he plans to write up more SPAC ideas in coming weeks.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:56

    Ensilica designed AST SpaceMobile's AST5000 ASIC and, per Anpanman, collects both engineering fees and an ongoing royalty for every AST5000 chip produced — so if there are ultimately '300 Bluebirds... or 500' made with the AST5000 (a rough guess), that would represent a recurring revenue stream for Ensilica; the company also designs ASICs for other space, automotive, and industrial customers, including a recent EU award for a next-generation satellite constellation.

Gilat Satellite Networks

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:46:34

    Asked about Gilat Satellite Networks (GILT), an Israeli company making satellite terminals (including phased-array antennas for commercial airliners), Anpanman said he did only cursory research; he's unsure whether the company acquired to add revenue is under competitive pressure, and it's unclear whether Gilat's terminal business is tied to Starlink or to Viasat/SES, which would affect whether he wants exposure.

Watch Items9

  • Firm target launch date for the next ASTS Falcon 9 BlueBird launch

    About 2 weeks from time of recording; firm date expected by end of that week Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Subsequent Falcon 9 BlueBird launch

    July, probably early July Anpanman 00:20:53
  • Continued Falcon 9 launch cadence for ASTS

    Roughly one launch per month for the rest of the year Anpanman 00:20:53
  • ULA Vulcan Centaur return-to-flight investigation conclusion

    Sometime in September, possibly August (Anpanman uncertain) Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Possible NSSL (National Security Launch) priority announcements for ASTS

    Next 2-3 months Anpanman 00:00:27
  • SpaceX funding roadshow and pricing

    Roadshow starts Thursday June 4th; pricing expected June 11th Anpanman 00:00:27
  • T1 Energy strategic funding package announcement

    Within 3-4 weeks of recording; expected before quarter-end, June 30, 2026 Anpanman 00:28:56
  • T1 Energy warrant exercise trigger ($283M) if stock closes above $11.50

    Before warrant expiration on July 8th or 9th, 2026 Anpanman 00:28:56
  • Kraken Robotics' Covela acquisition closing

    Expected to close in the next few weeks Anpanman 00:28:56

Open Questions5

  • Whether AST SpaceMobile will pivot to using SpaceX Falcon Heavy instead of Falcon 9 to launch more BlueBirds per flight if cost weren't a factor, and how the satellite-stacking engineering challenge would be solved.

    Anpanman 00:28:56
  • How many additional Falcon 9 launches AST SpaceMobile has already contracted or has available to draw on (5, 10, or 15 — unclear).

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Which contingency path ('Plan B' variants) the company will actually pursue to backfill New Glenn's lost launch capacity, which Anpanman says even the company hasn't finalized yet.

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Whether AST SpaceMobile will revise its year-end satellite-count guidance downward (e.g., to 30-40) and when it will communicate that update to the market.

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Whether Gilat Satellite Networks' terminal business is tied to Starlink or to Viasat/SES, which would determine whether it's an attractive investment adjacent to the direct-to-device theme.

    Anpanman 00:46:34
2026-06-01 1:04:34

Kook's Weekly - May 31 - The Launch Labyrinth

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' recap (published June 1, 2026, covering the May 30-31 weekend), Kook addresses the Thursday-night Blue Origin New Glenn hot-fire test explosion that destroyed/damaged the launch pad. He argues the market is misreading the risk to AST SpaceMobile.

He frames it as an 'event shock' — fast recovery, like the April 20 New Glenn 3 anomaly — rather than a 'dilutive shock' with a slow, multi-day recovery like a convert or the Rakuten share sale. He argues ASTS's 'launch agnostic, carrier neutral' strategy and its position as the most desirable satellite cargo in the world mean the real risk is a modest right-shift in the 2027 timeline rather than any threat to the constellation itself.

He also covers a wave of bullish secondary catalysts: a likely NSSL/ULA/MHI launch diversification, a senior Raytheon missile-defense hire signaling a bigger federal/Golden Dome push, EU 2 GHz MSS spectrum rules that could favor AST's European JV, and the approaching SpaceX IPO, which he thinks could reprice ASTS as a liquid, investable pair-trade name.

His headline conclusion: near-term New Glenn uncertainty is overweighted by the market relative to the wall of positive news — multiple Falcon 9 launches, spectrum wins, government contracts — he expects over the next 6-9 months.

Key Takeaways

  • Blue Origin's New Glenn suffered a launch-pad explosion during a hot-fire test on Thursday evening (Kook says the damage looked less severe than initially feared, though serious); Blue Origin was also building a second, larger pad nearby for a 9x4-scale rocket.
  • Kook, the host of this solo episode, distinguishes 'dilutive exogenous shocks' (e.g. a convertible bond, an equity offering, or the Rakuten share sale — which take roughly 5 to 10 trading days to fully settle because new shares have to ricochet through the market) from pure 'event shocks' like a rocket explosion, where the stock can implode for minutes and then quickly recover once panic-selling exhausts itself.
  • Kook argues AST SpaceMobile's stated launch strategy is deliberately 'carrier neutral and launch agnostic' — the company does not build its own rocket and instead designs satellites compatible with many launch vehicles (SpaceX Falcon 9, ULA, Mitsubishi's MHI, ISRO, and prospectively Ariane), which he contrasts with SpaceX's Starship/Starlink approach of vertically integrating launch and satellite design.
  • Based on his own 10-K-driven analysis (cross-checked against a fellow Space Mob community member's independent work), Kook estimates AST SpaceMobile had roughly 6 to 8 Falcon 9 launches under contract as of December 31, 2025, which could carry an estimated 25 to 30 satellites on SpaceX vehicles alone — a figure he calls speculative modeling, not company guidance.
  • Kook speculates (without confirmation) that AST SpaceMobile may be pursuing or may have qualified for Lane 2 of the U.S. National Security Space Launch (NSSL) program, inferring this from the company's newly explicit commentary on ULA integration and government/radar use during its May earnings call.
  • AST SpaceMobile has reportedly hired a 28-year Raytheon missile-defense veteran — previously Raytheon's radar program chief engineer and a lower-tier air-and-missile-defense radar integration director — as director of system integration, test and operations for federal programs, which Kook reads as a signal of a serious, escalating federal/defense (implied Golden Dome) push.
  • Kook contends the actual near-term risk from the New Glenn explosion is not to AST SpaceMobile's near-term (6-9 month) launch cadence, since the company already had substantial SpaceX Falcon 9 capacity booked, but rather to a more distant 2027 timeline that the market is prematurely pricing in today.
  • The EU published new 2 GHz MSS spectrum rules last week that Kook and other Space Mob community members believe are designed to squeeze out EchoStar and Viasat and reallocate spectrum toward European or Europe-compliant companies; Kook believes AST SpaceMobile's SatCo/European ConnectNow joint venture appears structurally built to be compliant, potentially yielding AST a meaningful (though not total) grant of that spectrum.
  • Kook frames the approaching SpaceX IPO as a potential positive catalyst for ASTS, arguing it could reorient Wall Street attention toward the satellite-to-phone sector broadly, make ASTS a natural liquid pair-trade candidate against SpaceX (rather than against Rocket Lab, its historical correlation partner), and improve ASTS's own trading liquidity and valuation recognition.
  • Kook explicitly does not believe AST SpaceMobile will hit its stated goal of 45 satellites in orbit by December 31, 2026, and argues the exact number doesn't matter — what matters for the stock is the market's perception of directional progress, not hitting a specific numerical goalpost.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

The New Glenn Pad Explosion and Immediate Aftermath

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:07

    Blue Origin's New Glenn hot-fire test failed on Thursday evening, resulting in an explosion that damaged the launch pad — described as 'the worst nightmare for a launch company,' losing the pad rather than just the rocket. Blue Origin was also in the process of building a second, larger pad nearby (for a rocket roughly 9x4 times bigger).

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook says that from what he could tell (while noting he's not an expert), the damage looked less severe than some feared, though probably still significant; he references online commentary arguing 'Blue Origin's toast' based on historical pad-explosion precedents, but says time will tell given Blue Origin's resources and motivation and the U.S. government's incentive to get New Glenn flying again for launch-provider diversity.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:07

    In the immediate aftermath, the U.S. government publicly signaled support, with someone Kook refers to as 'Jared' saying the government is 'not a procurement organization' and wants to 'make shit happen' to help Blue Origin recover.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:07

    Kook notes New Glenn had a decent track record prior to this event — 3-for-3 in reaching orbit, with 2 of 3 boosters successfully recovered (an off-nominal orbit occurred on the prior New Glenn 3 flight but the booster was recovered) — and argues losing the pad is very bad for NASA's moon program, for Jeff Bezos personally, for Amazon, and for the U.S. broadly given Starship's own struggles.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:07

    Despite the explosion, Cape Canaveral was not knocked out of commission: SpaceX launched at 7:55 a.m. Friday, launched again Saturday, and ULA also launched (carrying an Amazon Kuiper cargo) within roughly 12 hours of the pad explosion, which Kook cites as evidence the broader U.S. launch industry remains dynamic and operational.

Framework: Dilutive Shocks vs. Event Shocks

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook divides negative exogenous stock shocks into two buckets: 'dilutive shocks' (e.g., a convertible bond issuance, an equity/ATM offering, or the Rakuten share sale) where new share supply takes roughly 5 to 10 trading days to fully settle via 'destabilizing arbitrage' as shares ricochet through the market, versus pure 'event shocks' (like a rocket explosion) where the stock can implode for minutes and then quickly recover once no actual new share supply is created.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:07

    Kook compares this event to the New Glenn 3 second-stage anomaly around April 20, which he says was a much less severe anomaly than the pad explosion, but similarly saw the stock implode for about ten minutes before rallying, which he used as his playbook (wait for the panic-driven fireball reaction, then buy) for trading Friday's news.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:07

    Following his own playbook, after watching the stock crash on the fireball footage circulating, Kook says he went surfing, came back, and found the stock up $5-10, illustrating the fast-recovery pattern he expected for a pure event shock.

Impact on AST SpaceMobile's Launch Plans and the 'Launch Labyrinth'

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook says AST SpaceMobile's exact launch commitments on New Glenn are unknown, but notes only one experimental satellite ('our sacrificial bird,' insured) had been placed on the earlier New Glenn 3 flight rather than a full batch, alongside other satellites on ISRO (successful) — suggesting the company had managed New Glenn-specific risk conservatively even amid excitement about New Glenn's performance back in April.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook estimates, based on his own 10-K analysis (cross-checked against independent work by a fellow Space Mob community member using down-payment schedule data), that AST SpaceMobile had roughly 6 to 8 Falcon 9 launches contracted as of December 31, 2025, potentially covering 25 to 30 satellites already hard-committed to SpaceX alone.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook built a model (using Claude Code, per his description) to explore whether, assuming AST SpaceMobile executes at 6 satellites/month of production, satellites might pile up in storage awaiting launch capacity, and finds that even in a conservative scenario of just 1 extra SpaceX launch per month plus other vehicles (MHI, ULA, ISRO, and potentially Ariane), there are multiple viable paths to getting the backlog into orbit.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook argues that even in a worst-case scenario where satellites accumulate in a warehouse awaiting launch, the market may eventually view this positively as proof the constellation buildout is inevitable rather than negatively as stranded inventory.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook argues the New Glenn-related uncertainty is really a 6-to-9-month-out risk to a 2027 timeline rather than an immediate near-term problem, since the company already has ample near-to-mid-term launch coverage via its Falcon 9 contracts and other vehicles.

AST SpaceMobile's Launch-Agnostic Strategy

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook reiterates that AST SpaceMobile's core strategy has always been to be 'carrier neutral' and 'launch agnostic' — deliberately not vertically integrating into its own rocket (which he argues would be poor return on capital and not the company's core competency), and instead designing satellites compatible with essentially all available launch vehicles.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    He draws an analogy to oil tanker economics (his professional background): the largest tankers (VLCCs) have historically had worse long-term returns than smaller ships (Aframaxes/Panamaxes) because too many get built purely for prestige ('ego'); he applies similar logic to the crowded rocket industry (New Glenn, Vulcan, Ariane, SpaceX, MHI, ISRO, Rocket Lab, Relativity, Stoke, Starship), arguing there will be no shortage of launch options for AST SpaceMobile to choose from.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    He argues SpaceX (via Starlink/Starship) cannot fully match ASTS's satellite array size because Elon Musk would need an even bigger rocket, whereas ASTS avoids that constraint by not being tied to one launch vehicle.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook argues AST SpaceMobile also has strategic incentive to launch on vehicles from multiple countries (e.g., ISRO in India, prospectively Ariane in Europe) to build local political/regulatory goodwill with in-country mobile network operators and regulators, distinct from pure launch-cost optimization.

Government and Defense Opportunities

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook speculates that AST SpaceMobile may be seeking or may have qualified for Lane 2 of the National Security Space Launch (NSSL) program, inferring this from the company being newly explicit about ULA integration and about ongoing government/radar use (including active theaters of war) on its May earnings call — a shift he says wasn't merely a response to online pressure but likely reflects a real behind-the-scenes development.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    AST SpaceMobile reportedly hired a 28-year Raytheon missile-defense veteran — previously Raytheon's radar program chief engineer and a lower-tier air-and-missile-defense radar integration director — as director of system integration, test and operations for federal programs, per a social-media post by 'Jonathan Cooper'; Kook interprets this as a deliberate, high-stakes hire signaling deeper Golden Dome-adjacent ambitions, not a routine hire.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook references a roughly $4.16 billion government contract award to SpaceX (unrelated directly to ASTS) in which the government stated it will 'not leverage any one single provider' and is 'partnering with a highly diversified pool of traditional and non-traditional vendors' for the AMTI architecture — Kook reads this language as bullish for AST SpaceMobile potentially receiving its own government/defense awards.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook mentions Trump's recent drone initiative and argues that since drones depend on connectivity and 'positive control,' AST SpaceMobile's infrastructure is well positioned to intersect with the drone/defense theme, though he cautions this alone isn't a reason to buy the stock.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook notes AST SpaceMobile is sitting on 'nearly $4 billion of cash,' which he says gives the company leverage when negotiating launch capacity and pursuing government programs even if per-launch costs rise.

SpaceX IPO and Trading/Market Structure Implications

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook expects the approaching SpaceX IPO to draw significant Wall Street attention to the satellite/launch sector broadly, potentially benefiting AST SpaceMobile's visibility as investors research Falcon 9 launch demand and identify ASTS as a key cargo customer.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook floats (while calling it a low-probability, 'dream of dreams' scenario) the possibility of a splashy multi-launch contract announcement for ASTS coinciding with the SpaceX IPO discourse.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook argues ASTS, at roughly a $50 billion market cap, is a highly liquid ('trades like water') security compared to other satellite/spectrum names, which could make it an attractive pair-trade vehicle once SpaceX (valued conceptually around $2 trillion by some, versus Starlink's ~$1.5 trillion) begins trading — either as a hedge against SpaceX, or as the more 'obvious' long ASTS / short SpaceX trade given the valuation gap.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook argues ASTS has historically been mis-paired with Rocket Lab (both de-SPACs with vocal retail shareholder bases) despite differing business drivers, and hopes the market instead begins pairing/coupling ASTS with SpaceX given more overlapping (though not strictly zero-sum, in his view) business dynamics between broadband satellite (Starlink) and mobile satellite (ASTS).

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:07

    Kook cites an Anpanman-documented tweet sequence around the recently announced U.S. carrier joint venture: at 7:00 a.m. the major U.S. MNOs announced the JV, at 7:01 a.m. AST SpaceMobile tweeted that it is working with the JV, roughly 8 hours later Starlink tweeted objecting ('this is illegal'), and two weeks later Viasat tweeted support for the JV — which Kook reads as confirming ASTS was included in the JV from the start while Starlink was excluded.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook contrasts AST SpaceMobile's throughput (100 to now 200 megabits per cell) against Starlink's narrowband direct-to-cell solution (roughly 7 megabits), likening the difference to 'Facebook on desktop' (Starlink) versus 'Facebook mobile' (AST SpaceMobile).

EU 2 GHz MSS Spectrum Rules

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:07

    Kook says the EU came out last week with new 2 GHz MSS spectrum rules that appear designed to squeeze out EchoStar and Viasat and reallocate that spectrum toward European (or Europe-compliant) companies.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook, while disclaiming expertise, says his and other Space Mob community members' (including lawyers within the community) reading is that AST SpaceMobile appears to have structured its SatCo/European ConnectNow joint venture to comply with the new rules' requirements around EU-member voting control, non-EU JV participation, and data access/security, suggesting the company anticipated this regulatory shift.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook believes AST SpaceMobile could plausibly receive a meaningful grant of EU MSS spectrum (though not the entirety of what's available), which he frames as a valuable, largely under-priced catalyst separate from launch-cadence concerns, drawing an analogy to Charlie Ergen's dark spectrum holdings, which traded for billions in value based on strategic asset value alone.

Near-Term Manufacturing and Launch Catalysts

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:07

    BlueBird 9 arrived at Cape Canaveral on the 27th (of May); Kook speculates the satellites are likely now in early encapsulation/stacking phases and that photos of satellites in the launch fairing could be released this week.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook highlights company/community social-media language describing '3 satellites officially arrived at Cape Canaveral ahead of the next Falcon 9 launch campaign' and notes an accompanying post used 10 rocket emojis; he argues the word 'campaign' (rather than 'mission,' which is singular) and the emoji count both imply multiple upcoming Falcon 9 launches (in the range of 6 to 10), not just one or two.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook expects a cadence of AST SpaceMobile Falcon 9 launches over the coming months: one in a couple of weeks, another in July or August, and further launches in September, October, and November as part of a larger SpaceX launch campaign.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:07

    Kook notes ULA launched an Amazon Kuiper cargo around the same weekend, and observes that Amazon's Kuiper program is a direct competitor to AST SpaceMobile for scarce launch capacity, though he argues that competitive demand from a well-funded ecosystem is itself part of what strengthens ASTS's negotiating leverage with launch providers.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook cites an outside tweet from a self-described former Ariane Group employee ('Jean Le Bon'), who called AST SpaceMobile's ~$50 billion market cap 'a point of great convexity' given the potential for it to become 'the number one subscription business worldwide,' and argued the company's manufacturing/PP&E investment (not just the satellites themselves) is the real underappreciated asset, calling AST SpaceMobile 'no science project.'

The '45 Satellites by Year-End' Bear Case Debate

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:07

    Kook references a Deutsche Bank report (which he says didn't say anything controversial, just flagged 'increased uncertainty') as representative of what he calls the '45ers' — people who believe hitting 45 satellites in orbit by December 31, 2026 is a critical line-in-the-sand benchmark.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:07

    Kook states plainly that he does not believe AST SpaceMobile will hit 45 satellites by year-end 2026, and that he personally does not care whether they do — he argues what drives the stock price is the directionality of change (e.g., beating a more modest number like 30 with strong momentum) rather than hitting the specific stated target, drawing a parallel to Elon Musk's practice of setting extremely ambitious goals and still outperforming peers even at a 60% hit rate.

Personal Trading Commentary

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:07

    Kook says he maintains a large, untouched core AST SpaceMobile position but trades aggressively around it using options; he increased his options exposure materially on Friday after the pad-explosion sell-off, describing it as 'shooting his shot' as a bullish investor looking for overreaction opportunities.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:07

    Kook reflects that his biggest historical investing mistake with AST SpaceMobile (roughly 4-5 years ago) was underestimating the difficulty of execution, even though he correctly foresaw the long-term opportunity.

Watch Items8

  • Potential photos/confirmation of satellites being encapsulated in the payload fairing at Cape Canaveral following BlueBird 9's arrival on the 27th

    This week Kook 00:00:07
  • Next AST SpaceMobile Falcon 9 launch, expected as the start of a broader multi-launch 'campaign'

    In a couple of weeks, per Kook Kook 00:00:07
  • Additional Falcon 9 launches following the initial one

    July or August, then further launches September-November, per Kook Kook 00:00:07
  • SpaceX IPO and its potential market-reorientation/pair-trade effects on ASTS

    Imminent, discussed as happening this week/next per Kook Kook 00:00:07
  • Whether AST SpaceMobile reaches 45 satellites in orbit (a market-watched benchmark Kook considers overrated)

    By December 31, 2026 Kook 00:00:07
  • Progress rebuilding Blue Origin's damaged New Glenn pad and status of the second pad under construction

    Unclear; Kook is hopeful for meaningful progress within 6-9 months Kook 00:00:07
  • Possible AST SpaceMobile allocation of EU 2 GHz MSS spectrum under new EU rules via the SatCo/European ConnectNow JV

    Not specified Kook 00:00:07
  • Possible announcement of a splashy new multi-launch contract for AST SpaceMobile

    Speculative, hoped for 'next week' per Kook (low probability) Kook 00:00:07

Open Questions6

  • How many satellites, if any, will end up stacked in storage awaiting launch capacity if AST SpaceMobile executes at its targeted 6-satellites-per-month production rate?

    Kook 00:00:07
  • Has AST SpaceMobile actually qualified for, or is it pursuing, Lane 2 of the National Security Space Launch (NSSL) program?

    Kook 00:00:07
  • How much (if any) EU 2 GHz MSS spectrum will ultimately be granted to AST SpaceMobile's SatCo/European ConnectNow joint venture under the EU's new spectrum rules?

    Kook 00:00:07
  • Will the New Glenn pad explosion cause any real, longer-term shift in AST SpaceMobile's 2027 launch/constellation timeline, or will it be fully absorbed by existing Falcon 9 and other-vehicle capacity?

    Kook 00:00:07
  • Will institutional pair-trade flows (long ASTS/short SpaceX, or ASTS as a SpaceX hedge) actually materialize once SpaceX goes public, and in which direction will that push ASTS's share price?

    Kook 00:00:07
  • Will AST SpaceMobile receive its own significant government/defense contract award (echoing the scale of the ~$4.16 billion SpaceX award referenced) given the Pentagon's stated preference for a diversified vendor base?

    Kook 00:00:07
2026-05-29 55:33

Anpanman - Space is Hard: The New Glenn Anomaly and the SpaceMobile Pivot

Anpanman · Jacob

Anpanman, joined by guest Jacob, react in real time to Blue Origin New Glenn 4 exploding during a static-fire test the evening of the episode, destroying most of launch pad SLC-36.

They walk through what a lost or delayed New Glenn means for AST SpaceMobile's 2026 launch plan and satellite deployment timeline. They argue the company is launch-agnostic, with Falcon 9, ULA Vulcan Centaur, Ariane, Mitsubishi Heavy, and ISRO all in play.

The headline conclusion: this is a genuine multi-month setback to AST's satellite deployment cadence and the stock will trade down sharply. But with roughly $4 billion in pro forma cash and multiple backup launch providers, Anpanman argues it does not change the company's multi-year trajectory or net present value.

He urges listeners to ignore online speculation (from commentators like Eric Berger and Tim Farrar) until Blue Origin's investigation concludes.

Key Takeaways

  • Blue Origin's New Glenn 4 booster exploded during a static-fire test ahead of the planned Amazon LEO launch, destroying most of launch pad SLC-36 at Cape Canaveral; Anpanman guesses the pad will be out of commission for months or longer.
  • AST SpaceMobile relied heavily on New Glenn (up to 8 satellites per launch) as 'Plan A' for reaching its 45-satellite year-end target, but Anpanman and Jacob argue the company is launch-agnostic, with 4-5 Falcon 9 launches already booked for 2026 (3 satellites each, room to book more) and a signed agreement with ULA's Vulcan Centaur (5 satellites per launch in its 6-solid-booster configuration).
  • Anpanman speculates AST will likely have to revise its 45-satellites-by-year-end guidance down to around 25-30 in an upcoming Q2 update, pushing the 45 target out to around Q1 or early Q2 of the following year — this is his own speculation, not company guidance.
  • AST stock was down about 9% in overnight trading, falling as low as roughly $118.43 from prior levels near $120, though Anpanman notes this follows a run-up from a low of $63; he personally sold a smaller trading-account position into the news and expects a volatile, likely lower open the next day.
  • Anpanman dismisses several pieces of circulating online speculation as false or unreliable, including a deleted AI-generated article claiming Falcon 9 would also be grounded (Falcon 9 launches from a separate pad, not SLC-36) and commentary from Tim Farrar and Eric Berger, both of whom Anpanman says have a history of being wrong about AST and Blue Origin.
  • Jacob relays secondhand information from a contact at Blue Origin suggesting the anomaly occurred 'right at ignition' rather than from an overpressurized tank, and notes the launch tower/strongback fell, raising the possibility the flame trench/deluge system was damaged, which would mean a longer repair timeline — explicitly framed as unverified speculation.
  • Blue Origin was already building a second, larger launch pad near SLC-36 designed to handle bigger future New Glenn variants; Anpanman expects the company to prioritize finishing that new pad while rebuilding the destroyed one in parallel, and does not expect New Glenn to fly again this year.
  • Anpanman does not believe AST needs to raise additional capital to fund alternate launches, citing roughly $4 billion in pro forma cash on the balance sheet.
  • The setback is discussed as bad for the broader space sector too, including NASA's Artemis moon program (which depends heavily on New Glenn) and Amazon's Kuiper/LEO constellation, which also relied on New Glenn capacity; several space stocks (Rocket Lab, Intuitive Machines, Redwire) traded down in sympathy.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

The New Glenn 4 Anomaly and Launch Pad Damage

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Blue Origin's New Glenn 4 booster had an anomaly during a static-fire test ahead of the planned Amazon LEO launch; it looked like something ignited around the engines, producing a large fireball explosion that took out most of launch pad SLC-36, which is now out of commission.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    His guess is that it will take months, perhaps longer, for SLC-36 to be rebuilt and brought back into service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Blue Origin was already building a second, larger launch pad nearby intended to accommodate both the current New Glenn configuration and the bigger future 9x4 New Glenn; he expects Blue Origin to prioritize finishing that new pad first (since there's no wreckage to clear) while rebuilding the destroyed pad in parallel.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    His guess, explicitly labeled speculation, is that New Glenn will not fly again for probably the rest of this year.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:06:15

    He isn't sure which regulatory body investigates this incident, since it wasn't a launch but a static/hot-fire test, so he doesn't believe it falls under FAA jurisdiction the way an in-flight mishap would.

  • Jacob Rumor 00:18:37

    Via a secondhand contact at Blue Origin, he heard the anomaly happened 'right at ignition,' suggesting it likely wasn't an overpressurized tank exploding but something related to the ignition process itself; he cautions this detail 'doesn't really tell us much' on its own.

  • Jacob Speculation 00:18:37

    The launch tower/strongback fell, which involves a lot of steel; if the deluge system (the flame trench) was significantly damaged, that could mean a long recovery, since flame trenches are structurally complex despite just handling water.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Speculates that during static fire, a design difference on this newly-built third booster (versus the twice-flown 'Never Tell Me the Odds' booster) may have caused an issue the investigation will need to identify.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:53

    Booster 1 was already lost previously; Booster 2 is believed safe since it was in the nearby integration facility away from the pad; this newly-destroyed booster (New Glenn 4/Booster 3) is now lost; Booster 4 is in production and Booster 5 is planned, with Blue Origin expecting to complete three more boosters this year.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:49:01

    On second stages, he estimates roughly 14 have been built with a 15th in progress; 4 have now been used (3 in successful flights plus this one destroyed in the anomaly), leaving roughly 10 available unless additional ones were damaged in the nearby facility.

  • Jacob Speculation 00:49:01

    Notes a possible silver lining: because Blue Origin has built up a backlog of boosters and second stages, and AST has satellites ready to go, once the pad reopens launches could cadence very quickly back-to-back rather than being spaced three months apart.

'Space Is Hard' — Framing the Setback in Industry Context

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Frames this as a normal part of rocket development programs — setbacks like this happen, you learn from them, fix the design, and go again — comparing it to what SpaceX went through developing Falcon 9 and what Starship is currently going through trying to solve second-stage reentry and recovery.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Notes Starship 'ended its mission in a fireball' the prior week, and that the very first Starship test actually destroyed its own launch pad, requiring a reinforced redesign that took time to rebuild — a parallel to what Blue Origin now faces.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:03:00

    Relays a comment from Kook (present in the audience): 'AST SpaceMobile is not Blue Origin. We are not the same company' — acknowledging there are economic and future business ties, but they are separate entities.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Notes Rocket Lab's Neutron program also recently had an issue where a casing reportedly cracked during development testing, framing this as the kind of thing investors should expect and even want to happen early in a program rather than later with important cargo or crew aboard.

Impact on AST SpaceMobile's Launch Plan

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    AST is 'launch agnostic' — while New Glenn was Plan A, Plan B is booking more Falcon 9 launches; his understanding is the company has 4 to 5 Falcon 9 launches booked for this year, with the option to book additional ones.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Falcon 9 can carry 3 AST satellites per launch (possibly 4 if satellite weight can be reduced); AST has also signed with ULA's Vulcan Centaur, which can carry 5 satellites at a time in its 6-solid-rocket-booster configuration; the open question is when a Vulcan slot becomes available, with AST currently 'on standby' this year to slot in if other cargo falls through.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    The company is also talking with Arianespace and Mitsubishi Heavy as additional launch providers, though he's not sure how far those discussions have progressed; Ariane 5 satellites at a time, Mitsubishi Heavy 3 at a time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    News from 'yesterday' suggests that using Arianespace may be an important factor in AST/SatCo's bid for European 2 GHz spectrum allocation, since supporting the EU is likely to require using a European launch provider.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    ISRO (which launched BlueBird 6 via LVM3) can carry 2 satellites at a time and remains a viable option; he wouldn't be surprised to see additional ISRO bookings.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    If ULA Vulcan's BE-4 engine (which powers it) turns out to have a related issue, that could delay Vulcan by a few months as well, depending on the specific problem.

  • Jacob Speculation 00:19:33

    Suggests that with satellites ready to go, AST could potentially buy out launch capacity from other missions — for example paying a rideshare aggregator like Exolaunch more than they paid for their slot to take over an entire Falcon 9 rideshare launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:03

    Agrees this is plausible if you're buying out an entire dedicated launch, versus the much harder problem of coordinating a rideshare among many smaller companies.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:50

    The earliest New Glenn was going to launch an AST BlueBird, even before this anomaly, was probably August at the earliest, maybe September.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:50

    Expects a 'Batch 1' Falcon 9 launch within the next 2-3 weeks, with a 'Batch 2' of satellites shipping down to the Cape sometime in the following 2-3 weeks.

Satellite Count Guidance and Timeline Impact

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:06:15

    Believes the company will have to shift its timeline by about 2-3 months, and in an upcoming Q2 update will likely revise its 45-satellites target down to something like 25 to 30 by year-end, with the 45 target then sliding to around Q1 or early Q2 of the following year — explicitly framed as his own guess, not company guidance.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:06:15

    Argues this timeline shift does not meaningfully change the net present value of the business when viewed against the 2027-2029 horizon.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Notes that Block 2 satellites comparable to the competing EchoStar spectrum/hardware were already sent to the Cape — he says '3 down to the Cape in April, and we've got more on the way' — though he does not give an exact date beyond the month.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:50

    The key metric to watch, in his view, is production cadence — how quickly the company can build satellites in batches, and whether that inter-batch time continues to shorten — since with sufficient cash the company can always buy additional launches.

Stock Reaction, Short Interest, and Online Misinformation

9
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:25:13

    AST stock is down about 9% in overnight trading; short interest actually rose the day before the event to $66 million, versus $63.6 million the prior day.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:25:52

    Stock traded overnight as low as $118.43, down from levels near $120, after having run up from a prior low of $63; he argues even a further drop to $110-115 should be viewed with perspective given that run-up.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:25:52

    Disclosed personally selling out of AST in a small Robinhood account (opened with about $20,000, which had grown toward roughly $70,000) at around $71 when the news broke; he expects a 'knee-jerk' lower open the next day, guessing a dip to roughly $110-115 as a potential buying opportunity, and plans to buy back depending on price.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:09:31

    A now-deleted article, which he says contained 'AI slop,' falsely claimed Falcon 9 would also be grounded because it supposedly launches from SLC-36; he clarifies Falcon 9 launches from a separate SpaceX pad complex entirely, making the claim baseless.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:09:31

    Reporter Eric Berger has speculated Blue Origin might abandon the current New Glenn design entirely in favor of the larger New Glenn Heavy, drawing a parallel to Relativity Space abandoning its Terran rocket after an anomaly; Anpanman says he previously ran Berger's speculation by AST management, who called Berger 'completely wrong.'

  • Jacob Disagreement 00:28:32

    Adds that Rocket Lab's Peter Beck has also directly refuted specific Eric Berger claims in the past (e.g. regarding Lockheed Martin and an engine test issue), characterizing Berger's reporting as often turning 'a molehill out of nothing.'

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:28:55

    Reads a tweet from Tim Farrar claiming that with 4 Falcon 9s planned this year and no more New Glenns until the pad is rebuilt, AST's commercial service will be pushed to 2028, sarcastically suggesting AST will 'blame a lack of launchers' to obscure manufacturing delays; Anpanman notes Farrar previously wrongly claimed BlueBirds wouldn't fit in a Falcon 9 fairing, and dismisses his credibility.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:50

    Speculates that at the $63 low, New Glenn delay risk was already heavily priced in, while he estimates the market had been roughly 60-65% confident New Glenn would return to the launch rotation and fly several missions this year — meaning some of that optimism now has to unwind.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:50

    Flags that sell-side research reports and possible price-target downgrades may follow in the coming days as analysts digest the news.

Broader Sector and Macro Impact

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    This is a setback for the broader industry, notably for Amazon's LEO (Kuiper) constellation, which also planned to use Blue Origin New Glenn capacity, and for smaller space companies generally, since New Glenn was expected to help relieve launch capacity constraints.

  • Jacob Speculation 00:36:46

    Notes NASA is heavily dependent on New Glenn and the MK1 vehicle for the Artemis moon-landing program; he speculates that, given the ongoing space race with China, this could act as a forcing function to expedite permitting and red tape around the rebuild.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:38:35

    Agrees, noting the current administration has moved quickly before — citing a roughly 30-day FAA investigation turnaround for a prior second-stage mishap — and that NASA has essentially bet its human spaceflight plans on Blue Origin New Glenn and SpaceX Starship with no real alternative.

  • Jacob Rumor 00:38:35

    Mentions a comment in the chat (from 'Captain') that power might be out on other pads, potentially affecting a separate Atlas launch scheduled for the next day, but explicitly cautions this is unverified.

  • Jacob Rumor 00:39:50

    On SpaceX's IPO, notes Bloomberg had speculated a $2 trillion valuation, which Elon Musk directly denied; the officially discussed range was previously $1.5-1.75 trillion and is now reportedly around $1.8 trillion.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:40:28

    Explains general IPO book-building mechanics (filing ranges get raised during the roadshow based on investor demand, oversubscription leads to reduced allocations, then aftermarket buying), guessing SpaceX's range could ultimately rise to $1.9-2 trillion and price around $2.1 trillion.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:43:27

    Expects the space sector broadly to trade red the next day since AST is 'a big proxy of the space sector'; notes Rocket Lab down 2.4%, Intuitive Machines down 3.5%, and Redwire also down.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:43:40

    Notes the space sector had been 'on fire' recently, with several smaller, serial stock-issuing companies (Satellogic, Sidus, Momentus) pricing deals, and Firefly announcing a primary capital raise; also notes private equity firm AE Industrial Partners has been selling down its space holdings, including exiting its Redwire position completely.

Competitive Landscape

2
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:06:15

    Describes the current competitive field: Starlink direct-to-cell has about 650 satellites in orbit currently, described as 'very low performance'; SpaceX's next iteration (V2 satellites) is hoped to launch around 2028-2029, contingent on Starship being ready by then.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:06:15

    EchoStar's spectrum still needs to be integrated into handsets, and its capability is comparable to AST's Block 2 satellites.

Viasat Earnings Call and Rocket Lab Neutron Speculation

3
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:33:xx

    Mentions he holds a small short position in Viasat, describing it as done partly 'half-jokingly' as a forcing mechanism to research the company; notes Viasat's valuation has been helped by rising spectrum valuations and the Ligado-related payment.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:33:xx

    Listened to Viasat's earnings call the same day and discusses a joint venture referenced as something like 'Equisys' (name unclear/possibly garbled in the transcript), saying details remain unclear and the company may be deliberately vague; on the call, an analyst asked whether Viasat needs agreements in place before securing launches, and an executive (name given as 'Mark Gengenberger,' possibly a mis-transcription) responded that they would put agreements in place and then go buy launches — which Anpanman notes is now going to be tougher given the New Glenn situation.

  • Jacob Speculation 00:35:10

    Speculates the executive nearly said something different before changing course, and wonders if Rocket Lab's confidential Neutron customer (which booked 5 launches, revealed last quarter) could be connected to this Viasat-related JV; also raises MDA as another possible 'bus provider' candidate — explicitly framed as pure speculation with no supporting evidence.

Audience Q&A

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:46:04

    Asked how long it would take to rebuild a transporter/erector, he says he isn't sure, but notes an AI estimate (Grok) suggested 1 to 1.5 years; he speculates Blue Origin might already have one in process since they were building another pad, and that building a second one should be faster than the first.

  • Jacob Untagged 00:46:33

    Reiterates that the flame trench is the real long pole in rebuilding, being structurally complex despite handling 'just water'; expects Blue Origin will weigh rebuilding the destroyed pad versus finishing the new one.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:53

    Asked whether AST might need to raise capital to fund buying launches from other providers, he says he doesn't think so, citing roughly $4 billion in pro forma cash on the balance sheet.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:50:00

    Dismisses a chat question joking that a short seller might have caused the explosion to profit on AST, calling it very unlikely.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:50:00

    Responds to a comment that 'ASTS is cooked' by disagreeing, saying the satellite rollout will be set back by a few months but the company is not in serious trouble, with production cadence and booking more Falcon 9 launches being the key levers.

Watch Items6

  • Blue Origin's investigation findings into the New Glenn 4 anomaly

    expected within days ('tomorrow or the day after') Anpanman 00:39:50
  • Next Falcon 9 launch carrying AST satellites ('Batch 1')

    next 2-3 weeks Anpanman 00:39:50
  • Shipment of the next satellite batch ('Batch 2') to Cape Canaveral

    following 2-3 weeks Anpanman 00:39:50
  • AST's Q2 update, where satellite-count guidance for year-end 2026 may be revised

    upcoming quarterly update Anpanman 00:06:15
  • SpaceX IPO pricing and final valuation

    upcoming roadshow/pricing (unspecified date) Jacob and Anpanman 00:39:50
  • Sell-side analyst research reports and potential price-target adjustments on AST

    coming days Anpanman 00:39:50

Open Questions6

  • What exactly caused the New Glenn 4 anomaly — ignition-process issue versus tank/feed-line problem — remains unconfirmed pending Blue Origin's investigation.

    Jacob and Anpanman 00:18:37
  • How long will it take to rebuild launch pad SLC-36 (or complete the new nearby pad), including the transporter/erector and flame trench?

    Anpanman and Jacob 00:46:04
  • Will Blue Origin abandon the current New Glenn design in favor of New Glenn Heavy, as Eric Berger has speculated, rather than continuing with the current configuration?

    Anpanman 00:09:31
  • Was damage limited to the destroyed booster, or were additional second stages/boosters in the nearby facility also lost?

    Anpanman and Jacob 00:47:53
  • Will AST need to pay full price (versus a discount) to secure additional Falcon 9 and Vulcan Centaur launches to make up for the lost New Glenn capacity?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Is Rocket Lab's confidential Neutron customer (which booked 5 launches) connected to the Viasat-related JV discussed on Viasat's earnings call, and could MDA serve as a 'bus provider' for it?

    Jacob 00:35:10
2026-05-26 45:29

Anpanman - Pentagon Over a Barrel: Why the DoD is Pivoting to AST SpaceMobile

Anpanman

Anpanman, hosting solo, breaks down a Reuters report on the Pentagon sparring with SpaceX/Starlink over drone terminal pricing. He argues AST SpaceMobile is the natural alternative given its 3GPP-compatible, unmodified-phone technology.

That extends into speculation about a government-only 'Blackbird' shell constellation and a 'freedom network' use case for reaching civilians in oppressed countries like Iran.

He also runs through near-term stock catalysts (New Glenn 4, Bluebird 8-10 launches, the SpaceX IPO, index reconstitution, record-high short interest) and rebuts bearish narratives: the Falcon 9 fairing rumor, Starship engine risk, and EchoStar/SpaceX spectrum deal timing.

The headline conclusion is that Pentagon frustration with sole-source Starlink pricing, combined with a wave of near-term catalysts, is shifting the market's view of AST SpaceMobile's defense and commercial opportunity from speculative toward urgent.

Key Takeaways

  • A Reuters report described the Pentagon sparring with SpaceX over Starlink pricing for military drone communications terminals, with Starlink allegedly trying to raise the price per terminal from about $5,000 to roughly $25,000-$30,000, prompting the Pentagon's Commercial Satellite Communications Office to look for alternative providers.
  • Anpanman argues AST SpaceMobile is well positioned to be that alternative because its 3GPP-compatible, low-band service lets drones and other battlefield assets use small receivers instead of Starlink's dish terminals, potentially undercutting Starlink's pricing.
  • Anpanman describes a speculative 'Blackbird' concept — a government-only shell constellation modeled on SpaceX's Starshield — that AST could build using extra production capacity as satellite output rises from a 6-per-month cadence toward up to 12 per month, with roughly 4-6 satellites/month of that increase potentially dedicated to government use.
  • Anpanman speculates, based on his own due diligence rather than company confirmation, that the FM1/FM2 Block 2 satellites were SDA-linked prototypes, with FM2 serving only as a backup to FM1 and no near-term plan to build a replica since the company has moved on to a newer design.
  • The Reuters article reportedly also covers Pentagon interest in giving Iranian civilians direct satellite internet access (via Starlink, and potentially AST) to bypass government controls; Anpanman argues AST's ability to reach unmodified phones covertly is an advantage over Starlink's physical dish terminals, which have led to arrests of users in Iran.
  • Anpanman cites the article's claim that the drone communications use case alone could be worth 'hundreds of millions of dollars,' framing it as just one narrow slice of AST's addressable market alongside other applications like PNT/GPS backup, radar sensing, and direct-to-cell.
  • Short interest in ASTS has stayed roughly flat at about 67 million shares (near all-time highs) even as the stock rallied from about $63 to roughly $127 (near its intraday all-time high of about $128), which Anpanman argues sets up further short-covering; a listener poll on a possible June peak price got about 45-46% picking $175, 26% picking $200, 8.6% picking $250, and 20% picking $300.
  • Anpanman expects a possible relief rally in ASTS if Blue Origin's New Glenn 4 mission (an Amazon LEO cargo launch, possibly as soon as the coming Friday but more likely in July or August) succeeds, since New Glenn's reliability is critical to AST's deployment plans; the stock previously fell from roughly $90/high-$80s to $63 after the earlier New Glenn 3 mission failed to deliver BlueBird 7 to a usable orbit.
  • Anpanman rebuts a rumor pushed by industry consultants (he names Tim Farrar and a 'Stuart Taylor'/'Stuart Lucky') and some short-selling hedge funds claiming AST's satellites would not fit inside a SpaceX Falcon 9 fairing, saying an upcoming Falcon 9 launch carrying 3 AST satellites should visibly disprove the claim.
  • Near-term catalysts cited include a Bluebird 8/9/10 launch expected in mid-June, the SpaceX IPO occurring around the same time, and a Russell 1000 index weighting-cap increase (reconstitution) expected at the end of the month that should create incremental index buying; Brazil is also said to have just approved AST to operate and allocated S-band spectrum there.
  • Anpanman relays a technical theory (attributed to 'Katya') that Starship's 33 first-stage engines increase the statistical odds of an engine failure and create risk of cascading failure, and notes Starlink's Direct-to-Cell V2 satellites are entirely dependent on Starship reaching a reliable, reusable commercial cadence — something he guesses (spitballing) is unlikely before 2028, maybe 2029.
  • Citing SpaceX's IPO S-1 prospectus, Anpanman notes SpaceX says it is not working directly with handset manufacturers and instead depends entirely on MNO partners for device compatibility, and that Starlink's disclosed MNO contracts (with about 30 carriers globally) are multi-year (3-5 years) but can be terminated by the MNO customer at any time.
  • Anpanman notes a shift in MNO messaging: Deutsche Telekom's recent earnings call reportedly said it's comfortable with its Starlink relationship but open to other providers to avoid vendor lock-in, while T-Mobile's move to join the AT&T/Verizon satellite joint venture is read by Anpanman as an implicit signal T-Mobile will end up using AST's service.
  • Anpanman frames SpaceX's roughly $2 trillion IPO and investor roadshow (stops including Boston, Chicago, Denver, and LA) as introducing institutional investors to the broader space sector and an emerging 'AI data centers in space' vertical, arguing this is drawing new capital toward pure-play comparables like AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, Intuitive Machines, and Planet Labs.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

Reuters report: Pentagon vs. SpaceX over Starlink drone terminal pricing

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    A Reuters article published that morning reports the Pentagon is sparring with SpaceX over Starlink pricing; Starlink originally charged the military about $5,000 per terminal for kamikaze drone communications (small Starlink dish on top of the drone), and is now reportedly pushing to charge on the order of $25,000 to $30,000 per unit.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    The article quotes an industry-covering source saying SpaceX 'has the Pentagon over a barrel' because there are no real alternatives when there's only one sole-source contractor.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    The article states the Pentagon office responsible for acquiring the terminals, the Commercial Satellite Communications Office, is actively working to find other competitors to Starlink.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues AST SpaceMobile could offer drone communications at a much more reasonable price than $25,000-$30,000 because its 3GPP-compatible, low-band service only requires a small receiver rather than a large dish terminal.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says AST already has 13 different military contracts across agencies referred to by acronym (e.g. DIU, SDA, Department of War), and speculates the Pentagon is likely already in conversation with AST about the drone use case given its search for alternatives.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes Anduril unveiled a device last week that communicates over 4G LTE as its primary method, speculates this could support private battlefield LTE networks or satellite-relayed communications, and says he wouldn't be surprised to see a PR touting an Anduril/AST partnership in the coming months, calling AST the only satellite provider that can do 4G LTE in low-band.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    The article notes the Pentagon currently leverages two SpaceX-linked networks: the commercial Starlink constellation and a separate government-only constellation called Starshield.

'Blackbird' government shell constellation concept

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Anpanman addresses pushback he received (on X and Reddit) about AST's commercial constellation being used for military purposes, saying the commercial constellation will have some military use (communications at minimum, plus possibly sensing/radar/PNT backup-GPS applications), but for secure communications where MNOs or countries are uncomfortable, Scott Wisniewski has for about 3 quarters discussed building a dedicated government-only shell constellation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman speculates the jump in production cadence from 6 satellites/month to up to 12 satellites/month could see the incremental 4-6 satellites/month go toward building this government shell, jokingly calling it 'Blackbirds' instead of Bluebirds.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Based on the podcast's own due diligence (not a company statement), Anpanman believes the FM1 and FM2 satellites were SDA satellites — likely prototypes for what becomes part of the government shell.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Anpanman says he once asked the company whether they needed to build a replacement for FM2 and send it to space; the company's feedback was that having just one satellite (FM1) was good enough, since FM2 is a backup to FM1, and building that specific design now would be irrelevant because they've moved on to the next design for whatever they're building for the government.

'Freedom network' use case: direct-to-cell access for civilians in oppressive regimes (Iran, potentially North Korea/Venezuela)

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    The Reuters article reportedly also covers the Pentagon trying to work with Starlink to provide direct-to-cell connectivity to Iranian civilians to help them bypass the Iranian government.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues this is a powerful application for AST specifically because, unlike Starlink, it reaches unmodified/older phones directly, which could help civilians in Iran, Venezuela, or potentially North Korea organize and access information — something he calls one of the fastest ways to help liberate a country.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman speculates (explicitly 'just making stuff up here') about implementation: AST satellites wouldn't be integrated into the Iranian MNO's core network, so a friendly neighboring country's network core might be used instead, or the satellite network could spoof the local MNO, or SIM cards could be physically distributed to people on the ground.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman contrasts this favorably with prior cases where Iranians caught setting up physical Starlink dishes faced arrest and punishment by authorities; using ordinary phones people already carry is far less conspicuous, and he suggests the local network could be taken down so citizens can only connect to the 'freedom network.'

TAM framing and EU spectrum dynamics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The article states the drone use case alone could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars, which Anpanman frames as just one narrow slice of AST's total addressable market when multiplied across other products (direct-to-cell, PNT, radar sensing) and over 100 large phased arrays working together in low Earth orbit.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman draws a parallel to the May 2025 Musk-Trump spat that rallied the space sector, suggesting the drone pricing dispute has similar ingredients for a public falling-out between the Pentagon and SpaceX ahead of SpaceX's IPO.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues overreliance on one company for launch or communications (SpaceX) is bad for the country given founder control concerns, noting Elon Musk's conflicts with the EU as a relevant example.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He cites a headline he plans to tweet: 'EU to favor European satellite services to prevent Starlink's expansion,' regarding the EU's 2 gigahertz MSS spectrum allocation coming up in 2027, calling it very bullish for AST's satellite JV with Vodafone, Orange, and Telefónica, and expecting Deutsche Telekom to join that group as well.

Blue Origin New Glenn and Falcon 9 launch catalysts

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says there is speculation (which he thinks might be a bit early) that Blue Origin's New Glenn could launch as soon as that coming Friday; the FAA mishap investigation, which industry consultants estimated could take 4 months to a year, was reportedly resolved in about a month.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    New Glenn is described as AST's primary launch vehicle expected to carry most of its satellites; 2-3 Falcon 9 launches are also coming up. The next New Glenn mission (New Glenn 4) is likely an Amazon LEO cargo mission, which Anpanman guesses could launch as early as July but more likely August, with a batch of 4 AST satellites potentially following by end of summer.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman recalls that after the earlier New Glenn 3 mission failed to deliver BlueBird 7 successfully, ASTS stock fell from around $90/high-$80s to $63; he expects that if New Glenn 4 succeeds in delivering the Amazon LEO cargo, the stock could see a relief rally of roughly 15-20% as the New Glenn overhang is removed, rather than the prior 20-30% drop repeating.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes the recovery barge 'Jacqueline' had been in for maintenance but as of the prior day was being pushed back out, suggesting a launch could be coming soon; a static fire still needs to occur first.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    Anpanman rebuts a rumor pushed by industry consultants Tim Farrar and someone he refers to as 'Stuart Taylor'/'Stuart Lucky', and taken seriously by some short-selling hedge funds in expert-network calls, that claimed AST's satellites would not fit inside a Falcon 9 fairing; he expects a small positive reaction once the public sees 3 AST satellites successfully fit in an upcoming F9 fairing.

Stock price action, short interest, and listener poll

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes the stock is up about $19.30 that day and trading near $127, just below its intraday all-time high of about $128, while Rocket Lab is up $6.28 the same day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman discusses ASTS underperforming Rocket Lab on a relative stock-price basis due to New Glenn uncertainty, describing it as a 'reversion to mean' pair trade that has begun closing in recent days.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Real-time short interest has been stubborn at roughly 67-69 million shares, near all-time highs, with the latest report (as of the prior day) at 67 million shares — essentially flat even as the stock rallied from $63 to $126, suggesting convertible arbitrage shorts have offset any short covering.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman recalls that during a prior rally (last June) when the stock rose about 100% in a largely unidirectional move, a decent portion of that was short covering, as short interest fell from all-time highs to more moderate levels over that period; he believes a similar dynamic could be beginning now.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    A listener poll asking for a predicted June peak stock price showed about 45-46% picking $175, about 26% picking $200, about 8.6% picking $250, and about 20% picking $300.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman recalls that roughly two years ago the stock was around $2, and that he and Kook previously set successive price targets ($20, then $50) that the stock kept exceeding as the company hit funding, military-award, and commercial-partnership milestones, including the Saudi Telecom (stc) deal — over $1 billion committed over 10 years, $175 million of revenue prepaid, plus stc's 60 MHz of auctioned S-band spectrum that could be lit up.

Near-term catalyst calendar

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Anpanman lists the Bluebird 8, 9, and 10 launch happening in mid-June, occurring around the same time as the SpaceX IPO.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes an index reconstitution toward the end of the month: AST is currently in the Russell 1000, and its weighting cap is going up, which should create additional index-driven buying.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman says Brazil just granted AST the ability to operate there, including an allocation of S-band spectrum, in a regulatory environment where some S-band spectrum has not been exclusively allocated to Starlink; he speculates a 10-by-10 band-spectrum allocation could apply to the US and Brazil and potentially roll over to Europe.

Starship engine risk and Starlink Direct-to-Cell V2 timeline

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman relays a theory from someone referred to as 'Katya': using too many engines (Starship's first stage has 33 engines) increases the statistical probability of an individual engine failure, and due to how the engines are linked, this can create a cascading failure — which Anpanman says is what was observed in a recent Starship test.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman contrasts Blue Origin New Glenn (successfully landing/reusing its booster but currently using an expendable second stage, with a reusable second stage still in development) against SpaceX Starship, where recovering and refurbishing the heat-tiled second stage for rapid reuse is described as a much harder unsolved problem.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman notes Starlink's Direct-to-Cell V2 satellite is solely dependent on Starship becoming commercially viable at a regular cadence; the current Starlink direct-to-cell version is not competitive, and he guesses (spitballing) the next version using more spectrum most likely won't be online before 2028, maybe 2029 — and further Starship setbacks would push that timeline out further.

EchoStar-SpaceX spectrum sale and SpaceX S-1 disclosures

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:30:27

    The FCC approved EchoStar's sale of spectrum to SpaceX; Anpanman explains the companies are targeting a November 2027 close, attributing the delay partly to the timing of certain debt payments/financial penalties and partly to the need for country-by-country international regulatory approvals beyond just US regulators.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:30:27

    Anpanman notes SpaceX's IPO prospectus (S-1) disclosed that SpaceX is not working with handset manufacturers and is instead totally dependent on MNOs to push device compatibility for the spectrum it plans to use.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:30:27

    Per the S-1, Starlink discloses working with roughly 30 MNOs globally under multi-year (3-to-5-year) contracts, but notes the MNO customer can terminate these contracts at any time — a detail Anpanman finds notable given carriers' apparent growing wariness of Starlink's ambitions.

Shifting MNO sentiment on direct-to-cell / Starlink competitive threat

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman notes T-Mobile's move to join the AT&T and Verizon satellite joint venture, which he interprets (though not explicitly confirmed, due to regulatory sensitivities) as a signal T-Mobile will end up on AST SpaceMobile's service.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:30:27

    Anpanman says Deutsche Telekom, in its earnings announcement last week, indicated it's comfortable with its Starlink relationship but is open to working with other providers because it does not want to be locked into one vendor, reflecting awareness that Starlink could eventually compete more directly with MNOs.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman describes the direct-to-cell competitive-threat narrative as having shifted: it initially hit tower companies (American Tower, Crown Castle traded down starting mid-last-year on fears satellite connectivity would crimp tower demand), and has now shifted to MNOs themselves, who are now routinely asked on earnings calls about the competitive threat from Starlink — with executives typically downplaying expected traffic migration while emphasizing satellite as complementary/augmenting rather than competitive.

SpaceX IPO, space-sector rally, and AI data centers in space

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman frames SpaceX's roughly $2 trillion IPO valuation and investor roadshow (stops in Boston, Chicago, Denver, and LA) as introducing large institutional/mutual-fund investors to the space sector's TAM, including government applications and the emerging 'AI data centers in space' vertical.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman speculates that SpaceX's roadshow presentation includes comparable-company benchmarking that is introducing institutional investors to smaller pure-play space names like Intuitive Machines, Planet Labs, and Rocket Lab for the first time, prompting some to consider these as more direct/pure-play trades relative to SpaceX itself (which also carries xAI and other unrelated business lines/capex).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman raises governance concerns about SpaceX, noting Elon Musk effectively controls the shareholder vote and could pursue deals (citing the Cursor acquisition as a precedent) or even a Tesla merger without a shareholder vote.

Watch Items8

  • Blue Origin New Glenn 4 launch (Amazon LEO cargo mission)

    possibly as early as the coming Friday, but Anpanman thinks more likely July, most likely August Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Bluebird 8, 9, and 10 satellite launch

    mid-June Anpanman 00:00:27
  • SpaceX IPO

    around the same time as the mid-June Bluebird 8-10 launch Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Russell 1000 index reconstitution (AST's weighting cap increasing, creating index buying)

    end of this month Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Upcoming Falcon 9 launch carrying 3 AST satellites, expected to visibly rebut the 'satellites don't fit the fairing' rumor

    one of the next 2-3 Falcon 9 launches Anpanman 00:00:27
  • EU 2 gigahertz MSS spectrum allocation decision, seen as potentially favoring AST's European JV with Vodafone/Orange/Telefónica

    coming up in 2027 Anpanman 00:00:27
  • EchoStar-SpaceX spectrum sale closing (subject to debt-payment timing and international regulatory approvals)

    targeted November 2027 Anpanman 00:30:27
  • Starlink Direct-to-Cell V2 satellites, dependent on Starship reaching reliable commercial launch cadence

    guessed (spitballing) not before 2028, maybe 2029 Anpanman 00:30:27

Open Questions5

  • How would satellite-to-phone 'freedom network' access actually be implemented for civilians in a country like Iran — e.g. whether a friendly neighboring country's network core would be used, whether the local MNO would be spoofed, or whether SIM cards would need to be physically distributed — given AST satellites wouldn't be integrated into the Iranian MNO's own core network?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will Anduril publicly announce a partnership with AST SpaceMobile given Anduril's new 4G LTE-communicating device?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will the FCC-approved EchoStar-to-SpaceX spectrum sale actually clear the remaining country-by-country international regulatory approvals before its targeted November 2027 close?

    Anpanman 00:30:27
  • Will SpaceX's Starship achieve a reusable, high-cadence second stage, or will the company eventually abandon second-stage reusability in favor of an expendable design — and how much would either path delay Starlink's Direct-to-Cell V2 satellites?

    Anpanman 00:30:27
  • Will Blue Origin's New Glenn 4 mission (carrying Amazon LEO cargo) launch successfully and on the timeline Anpanman expects (as soon as Friday, more likely July/August), removing the launch-vehicle overhang on AST's stock?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
2026-05-26 1:22:39

Kook's Weekly - May 25 - The End of Constellation Constipation

Kook

This is a solo 'Kook's Weekly' recap episode (published May 26, 2026) in which Kook reviews the week's AST SpaceMobile news.

The news includes the shipment of Block 2 BlueBird satellites (numbered 8, 10, and 9) to a SpaceX payload processing facility, plus the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile carrier joint venture and related comments from Abel Avellan and AT&T's John Stankey.

Kook also covers a Ligado bankruptcy filing revealing a 15-year satellite useful life, Scott Wisniewski's JP Morgan conference remarks on backlog and free cash flow, and a bearish read of SpaceX's Starlink Direct-to-Cell business drawn from its IPO S-1 filing.

Kook's headline conclusion is that the satellite-shipping milestone marks the end of 'constellation constipation,' and definitively rebuts the bear thesis that AST lacked launch-provider diversification. It combines with Russell-rebalancing seasonality and a stacking set of 'unlocks' (regulatory, spectrum, carrier JV, government deals) to set up a potentially violent upside repricing. He advises long-term holders to keep their 'moon bag' positions rather than get 'too cute' trading around them.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile shipped Block 2 BlueBird satellites (numbered 8, 10, and 9, shipped in that order) to a SpaceX payload processing facility this week, which Kook calls the end of 'constellation constipation' and the precursor to getting more 'metal in orbit.'
  • Kook argues this shipment directly disproves the bear thesis that AST had a single critical-path launch dependency; the company has agreements with SpaceX/Falcon 9, Blue Origin/New Glenn, ULA/Vulcan, ISRO, and MHI, so the April 2026 New Glenn anomaly did not strand AST's launch plans.
  • ASTS traded around $112.20 in this recording, part of a broader rally across space stocks; Kook attributes part of the strength to the annual Russell index rebalancing, which mechanically forces more buying as the share price rises, plus a historical pattern of the stock rallying every June.
  • Abel Avellan publicly stated AST will have 'access to every operator in the United States,' which Kook reads as confirmation that T-Mobile is effectively joining AST's existing carrier partnerships via the newly announced AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite joint venture.
  • At a JP Morgan conference, AST President Scott Wisniewski said the company expects to be free-cash-flow positive before reaching $1 billion in annual revenue, cited a $1.2 billion revenue backlog, described 10 distinct government use cases (3 currently meaningful for revenue), and detailed AST's launch-provider capacity mix (Falcon 9 at 3 satellites/launch, New Glenn moving from 4 to 8, Vulcan at 5, ISRO at 2, MHI at 3, Ariane 6 at 5).
  • A community researcher found in a Ligado bankruptcy filing that AST's satellites are now designed for a 15-year useful life (attributed to an altitude change), which Kook says will meaningfully reduce future satellite-replacement capital spending compared to SpaceX's lower-altitude, faster-deorbiting Starlink satellites.
  • The Hennessy Advisors letter estimates AST could generate $2.4 to $4.4 billion in annual revenue from worldwide military and first-responder opportunities alone, with additional potential US national-intelligence revenue on top of that.
  • Kook argues SpaceX's Starlink Direct-to-Cell business, per its S-1 filing, is heavily dependent on a single carrier partner (T-Mobile), lacks direct cooperation from handset manufacturers, and had not launched new direct-to-device satellites since June 2025 (about a year at the time of this episode); the S-1 also states SpaceX has no direct contractual arrangement with Apple.
  • SpaceX's S-1 reportedly disclosed a global weighted-average ARPU of about $8 per user, producing roughly $710 million of annualized Starlink Direct-to-Cell revenue about 10 months after commercial launch, against publicly floated total addressable market figures of $720-740 billion.
  • Kook introduces the 'moon bag' investing concept (credited to an investor named Luttrell) — keeping a core long-term position intact even while trading smaller amounts around it — and cautions against selling covered calls or otherwise getting 'too cute' during what he expects to be a catalyst-heavy stretch.
  • A SpaceX Starship test flight this week saw the ship survive reentry but the booster fail to land; Kook separately reports the April 2026 New Glenn 3rd-flight anomaly (which resulted in the loss of BlueBird 7) has been attributed to a plumbing/valve leak rather than a structural design flaw, suggesting the New Glenn program should recover quickly.

Detailed Discussion16 topics

BlueBird Satellite Shipping & End of 'Constellation Constipation'

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:54

    AST SpaceMobile announced the 'Bluebird Convoy' this week, showing that satellites are now at the payload processing facility; they shipped in an unusual order — satellite number 8, then 10, then 9.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    Kook calls this a seminal scaling event and says the 'infamous constellation constipation is over,' describing it as the precursor to getting 'metal in orbit'; he expects satellites to keep rolling off the Midland production line 'like cans of tuna.'

  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:54

    AST communicated the shipment incrementally (piecemeal PR) rather than all at once — first showing 2 satellites shipped and a 3rd about to ship, then confirming the 3rd had shipped; the stock 'rocketed' on the news. Kook argues bears mischaracterized the incremental disclosure as AST hiding a problem, when it was actually transparency.

Bear Thesis on Launch Providers Debunked

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:54

    Kook recounts that around April 2026, after the New Glenn 3rd-flight mishap, bearish commentators (he singles out Tim Ferriss) argued AST could not launch on Falcon 9 and had no other launch providers, which would have been a fatal 'critical path dependency' — comparable to a data center business that can't get Nvidia chips.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    Kook says this bear case was 'proven wrong instantly' because AST has multiple launch providers (SpaceX, ULA, MHI, and others) and this week's shipment of satellites to the SpaceX payload processing facility further proves the satellites fit on the rocket.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:54

    He notes short interest hit all-time highs around $63/share in April 2026 amid this negativity, and frames the current news flow as a direct contradiction of that bear thesis.

Stock Price Action, Russell Rebalancing & Seasonality

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:54

    ASTS was trading around $112.20 at the time of recording, and Kook notes the broader space-stock basket was rallying as well, not just ASTS specifically.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    Kook attributes part of the recent strength to the Russell index rebalancing that occurs this time of year, arguing that as the stock's price and market cap rise, index/institutional buying requirements create a positive, self-reinforcing feedback loop.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Citing a seasonality chart from @HiriniPK, Kook notes ASTS has historically rallied every June, coinciding in 2025 with Block 1 launch activity and in 2024 with the AT&T and then Verizon SCS/DA authorizations; he expects a similar pattern this year tied to the end of 'constellation constipation.'

Kook's Investment Framework: Unlocks, Velocity of Good News & Moon Bags

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    Kook describes a 'if it's worth $20, it's worth $200' framework: stock repricing isn't normally distributed, and clearing a big binary 'unlock' (e.g., US regulatory approval, or now the carrier JV) can cause the market to reprice the whole thesis rather than incrementally.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    He speculates the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile JV could increase AST's effective US market exposure by roughly 50%, moving from 2 of 3 major US carriers (each roughly a third of market share) to all 3.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    Kook explains his 'velocity of good news' framework: if the pace of positive surprises is accelerating, the stock is likely to keep rising; he believes de-risking has already occurred on market adoption, regulation, commercial deals, satellite performance, and balance-sheet financing, and that what the market hasn't yet priced in is what scaled execution (6-10 satellites/month) actually looks like.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    He contrasts the stock's current dynamics ($112/share, ~$40 billion market cap) with its $2/share, roughly $600 million market-cap days, noting the earlier period carried real perceived bankruptcy risk that no longer applies, so 'rapid resolution of financial distress' type rallies are less likely now, but so is a collapse to zero.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    Kook introduces the 'moon bag' concept, credited to an investor named Luttrell, describing it as maintaining a core long-term position rather than being fully in or fully out; he contrasts this with his own historically binary (0-to-1 / 1-to-0) trading style.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook cautions listeners nearing a potential rip to $130 not to sell covered calls or get 'too cute' with trading positions, recalling being 'obliterated' in October (a prior episode) on covered calls during a violent rally.

Space Economy Thesis & Structural Moats

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    Referencing a Jeff Bezos comment that 'space-based data centers are very realistic, but 2-3 year timelines are probably too aggressive,' Kook lays out a framework of three space-economy pillars: telecom (already proven, AST's focus), military/defense infrastructure (radar, PNT), and power generation feeding AI data centers, which he views as the largest long-term opportunity.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:54

    He draws analogies to Amazon (books as an early test case before expanding to everything), Tesla, and Nvidia, arguing that companies that build deep infrastructure/scale advantages early gain 'degrees of freedom' competitors can't easily replicate; he argues only three companies can build satellites at state-level production scale.

  • Kook Speculation 00:31:01

    Kook contrasts owning a great business long-term (citing Steve Ballmer holding Microsoft) versus trading it (citing Bill Gates as having destroyed wealth by not holding what he knew best), framing his own approach as 'think like an owner, not a trader.'

AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile Joint Venture & Carrier Commentary

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  • Kook Company Guidance 00:33:31

    Abel Avellan, in a recent interview, said AST would have 'access to every operator in the United States,' which Kook interprets as confirmation that T-Mobile is joining AST's network alongside AT&T and Verizon via the new carrier JV.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:33:31

    AT&T's John Stankey commented on the JV (summarized by Anpanman in a Spaces and accompanying notes), saying AT&T has 'had a great relationship with AST SpaceMobile,' calling AST's technology and approach 'unique for direct-to-device,' and describing a path toward a 'seamless and straightforward' consumer product.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook frames the MNOs 'coalescing' around ASTS as analogous to chipmakers coalescing around ASML, arguing this creates a self-reinforcing commercial moat: as more MNOs join, AST becomes the low-cost best service, attracting still more MNOs and making it harder for competitors to be economically viable.

Dr. Ali's Multi-Frequency Spectrum Theory

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook highlights a tweet from community contributor 'Dr. Ali' noting that BlueBird satellites can operate on 4 different frequencies simultaneously, which Dr. Ali argues means AST functions more like a tower company than a traditional single-carrier partner — infrastructure that doesn't care which carrier is paying, as long as it's monetized.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Dr. Ali speculates this could evolve into a roaming-style framework where AT&T uses Band 71 satellite coverage while leveraging parts of T-Mobile's terrestrial network, in exchange for T-Mobile joining the AST network — theoretically enabling Band 5 (AT&T), Band 13 (Verizon), Band 14 (FirstNet), and Band 71 (T-Mobile/rural) traffic simultaneously on the same satellites.

Scott Wisniewski's JP Morgan Conference Remarks

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  • Kook Company Guidance 00:33:31

    Scott Wisniewski said at a JP Morgan fireside chat that AST expects to be free-cash-flow positive before hitting $1 billion in annual revenue; Kook estimates this implies roughly 80% gross margin (~$800 million gross margin) against roughly $400 million of fixed costs, meaning operating leverage kicks in quickly.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:33:31

    Wisniewski cited a $1.2 billion revenue backlog and described 10 distinct government use cases, of which Kook believes roughly 3 are currently meaningful in terms of revenue (Kook flags he may be misremembering the exact number).

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:33:31

    Wisniewski detailed AST's launch-provider mix: Falcon 9 at 3 satellites per launch, New Glenn moving from 4 up to 8 per launch, Vulcan at 5 per launch, ISRO at 2 per launch, MHI at 3 per launch, and Ariane 6 at 5 per launch.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:33:31

    Wisniewski discussed Vodafone's roughly $1 billion (now-appreciated) equity investment in AST and Vodafone's exclusivity across Europe and Africa.

Government/Defense Opportunities & Anduril

2
  • Kook Company Guidance 00:33:31

    Kook says Scott Wisniewski confirmed AST could build a dedicated, government-only satellite production line/security if the US government wanted it — something Kook says he speculated about last summer — consistent with AST's recently expanded factory footprint.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook speculates that Anduril's newly unveiled tactical gateway product, which reportedly uses global cellular broadband connectivity (not MSS connectivity), could pair well with AST SpaceMobile, since AST is, to his knowledge, the only company offering that kind of connectivity — though no formal partnership has been announced.

Satellite Useful Life Extended to 15 Years

2
  • Kook Confirmed 00:33:31

    Kook highlights a finding by community diligencer 'Moore Smith' in a Ligado bankruptcy filing indicating AST's satellites are now expected to have a 15-year useful life, which Kook attributes to a change in operating altitude affecting the drag/station-keeping relationship.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook argues a longer satellite lifespan reduces future maintenance/replenishment capital expenditure, freeing more capital for growth, and contrasts this favorably with SpaceX's Starlink satellites, which fly at a lower altitude (he says around 300 km) and deorbit quickly, forcing SpaceX to dedicate significant Falcon 9 launch capacity just to sustain the existing constellation — part of why Starship matters so much to the Starlink business.

Spectrum Aggregation: Brazil and Beyond

2
  • Kook Confirmed 00:33:31

    Kook reiterates that Brazil's Anatel authorized AST to operate its constellation on S-band, granting a 10-by-10 MHz swath of spectrum, versus what he describes as SpaceX's smaller roughly 5-by-5 MHz sliver of S-band.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:33:31

    Kook argues satellite network usage will always look small as a percentage of total mobile traffic (citing T-Mobile's reported figure of satellite representing 0.0002% of its network traffic) because satellite capacity is inherently spectrum-constrained and will remain a premium service, disputing that this makes it unimportant.

Hennessy Letter Revenue Estimates

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook revisits a recent letter from Hennessy (an investment firm that has held a large ASTS position), which estimates AST could generate $2.4 to $4.4 billion in annual revenue from worldwide military and first-responder opportunities, with additional US national-intelligence revenue on top of that.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook argues Hennessy's sustained large position (uncharacteristic for their risk management) suggests they have done deep diligence, and that a business line potentially worth billions in revenue wasn't even contemplated by investors five years ago — he estimates this could be worth roughly 2x the current stock price by itself.

Telecom Industry Sentiment Shift

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:33:31

    Kook cites a quote from the JP Morgan conference (attributed to Deutsche Telekom) stating that while direct-to-device was initially seen as complementary to the wireless ecosystem, recent developments have raised concern it could become a threat, and that Deutsche Telekom needs to take 'bolder steps to protect its moat.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook argues this sentiment shift — disruptive technology starting small before becoming existential — mirrors how American Tower recognized the threat and responded by becoming an AST investor/board participant, and that telecom carriers are 'bear-hugging' AST partly to keep SpaceX at bay while hoping AST honors a 'carrier-neutral' business model.

SpaceX S-1 Filing Analysis

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:33:31

    Summarizing analysis from community contributor 'Only 6 Inches,' Kook says SpaceX's S-1 shows Starlink Direct-to-Cell is extremely reliant on a single MNO (T-Mobile) and extremely reliant on handset manufacturers modifying hardware/software, since SpaceX's spectrum doesn't work with existing phones as-is.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook notes SpaceX had not launched any new direct-to-device satellites since June 2025 (about a year at the time of this episode), and questions — half-seriously — whether SpaceX might eventually abandon the direct-to-consumer satellite market given the opportunity cost of dedicating launch mass to it versus core Starlink broadband.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:33:31

    Kook says the S-1 confirms SpaceX's purported partnership with Apple was 'bullshit,' quoting language that SpaceX does not have direct contractual arrangements with handset manufacturers and instead expects MNO partners to encourage device compatibility — contradicting past rumors that had periodically hit ASTS's stock price.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:33:31

    Kook references reported SpaceX TAM figures of $720-740 billion for mobile broadband, and says the S-1 disclosed a global weighted-average ARPU of about $8 per user, implying roughly $710 million in annualized Starlink Direct-to-Cell revenue about 10 months after commercial launch — he argues this is a bullish read-through for AST hitting its 2027 revenue targets.

Starship Launch & New Glenn Update

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:33:31

    Kook describes watching a Starship test flight on Friday: the ship survived reentry, but the booster did not land successfully; the vehicle reached roughly 100 km altitude, which Kook believed was the wrong target orbit, and the vacuum engines failed to reignite in space.

  • Kook Rumor 00:33:31

    Kook says he learned this week that the April 2026 New Glenn 3rd-flight anomaly (which resulted in the loss of BlueBird 7) was 'literally just a plumbing accident' — a leaky valve causing propellant loss — rather than a structural design flaw, suggesting New Glenn will return to flight quickly.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Citing analysis from community contributor 'Katzy,' Kook discusses a theory that Starship's large number of engines creates a statistically higher risk of cascading failures from a single engine-out event, drawing a comparison to a 'Russian approach' to rocket design.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook poses an open question about Starship's underlying economics: whether SpaceX made the right design tradeoff by pursuing a fully reusable but expensive second stage (Ship) versus Blue Origin's approach with New Glenn, which pairs a reusable booster with a cheaper, expendable second stage, for the specific use case of launching satellites.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:31

    Kook notes ULA's Vulcan rocket is next up on the launch manifest, expecting AST to also launch satellites on Vulcan, though he isn't certain the launch happens this year.

Block 2 Satellite Economics & Sun Sandwich Design

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  • Kook Speculation 00:31:03

    Citing an estimate from community contributor 'Justin at JustBar23' (which Kook says he has not independently verified), a fully mature Block 2 satellite is projected to cost about $23 million to build and launch, equivalent in cost to roughly 16 Starlink satellites but with roughly 100 times the capacity; current satellites cost more than this long-term target as production scales up (Kook compares this to early, more expensive Rivian vehicles).

  • Kook Untagged 00:31:03

    Kook explains Abel Avellan's 'sun sandwich' satellite design concept: one side of the satellite collects solar energy while the other side performs a market-driven function (currently radio-frequency generation/processing, potentially future power-beaming or AI data processing), making nearly the entire satellite surface dedicated to power and commercial application — unlike SpaceX's design, which uses a separate solar array and a separate antenna array.

Watch Items6

  • Next batch of Block 2 BlueBird satellites shipping and launching from Cape Canaveral

    inside of 2 to 4 weeks (from the episode date) Kook 00:33:31
  • Russell index rebalancing/reweighting

    this time of year (summer/June) Kook 00:00:54
  • Historical June seasonality pattern for ASTS shares

    June Kook 00:33:31
  • ULA Vulcan next launch

    on next spaceflight; possibly later this year Kook 00:33:31
  • Potential large government/defense contract award(s) (e.g., Golden Dome-related)

    not specified — described as hoped-for and forthcoming Kook 00:00:54
  • Market's reassessment of AST's 2027 revenue potential ('the Cook 900')

    between now and next year Kook 00:00:54

Open Questions5

  • What is the actual break-even price/economics that SpaceX's Starship design philosophy (fully reusable but expensive Ship vs. expendable second stage) was underwritten on, especially for the satellite-launch use case specifically?

    Kook 00:33:31
  • Is there any meaningful diminishing return to scale in AST's satellite unit economics as production scales from dozens to hundreds of satellites?

    Kook 00:00:54
  • Will SpaceX eventually abandon or deprioritize the direct-to-device/direct-to-cell consumer market given the opportunity cost of dedicating launch mass to it?

    Kook 00:33:31
  • Will AST SpaceMobile actually stand up a separate government-only satellite production entity/security, as Scott Wisniewski suggested is possible?

    Kook 00:33:31
  • What exact commercial/roaming framework (e.g., Dr. Ali's Band 71/T-Mobile theory) will emerge from the new AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture?

    Kook 00:33:31
2026-05-22 44:57

Anpanman - The Space Frontier: AI Data Centers and the Trillion Dollar Opportunity

Anpanman

In this solo episode, Anpanman walks through the rapid sentiment shift in AST SpaceMobile and the broader space sector — from what he calls the 'pit of despair' near $63/share on May 5, 2026 to a fast rally.

He attributes that rally to the SpaceX IPO 'halo effect,' the Blue Origin factory tour, Bluebird satellite shipments, and falling short interest. He argues space is a once-in-a-generation investment theme like railroads or oil.

He lays out a thesis that AST's high-power satellites (which he estimates already generate over 100 kilowatts each) position the company for a future, non-distracting pivot into space-based AI data centers, once its core constellation is deployed and cash-flow positive.

He closes with a caution against holding leveraged 2x ASTS ETFs, and a discussion of the fixed-wireless market opportunity opened by AST's future L-band/S-band spectrum.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman notes AST SpaceMobile bottomed near $63/share on May 5, 2026, which he publicly called the start of an 'endless rally' at the time, and the stock has since rallied strongly, which he attributes to a stack of positive catalysts (SpaceX IPO buzz, Bluebird shipments, Blue Origin's return to flight, falling short interest).
  • Anpanman's central thesis is that AST SpaceMobile's satellites already generate very large amounts of onboard power — he estimates over 100 kilowatts per satellite, versus Elon Musk's stated goal of eventually reaching 100 kilowatts for competitor K2's satellites — which he argues sets up a natural future progression from communications into space-based AI data centers, without AST needing to pivot away from its core direct-to-device and defense constellation buildout.
  • He recounts that AST satellites are now expected to have an approximately 15-year operational lifetime (versus roughly 3 years for Starlink satellites in very low orbit), a detail he says was disclosed in a Ligado bankruptcy filing, which he argues will keep AST's future satellite-replacement capital expenditure comparatively low.
  • Anpanman frames the upcoming SpaceX IPO as a 'halo effect' catalyst that will educate generalist institutional investors about the space sector broadly and, in his view, drive incremental capital into other pure-play space stocks like AST SpaceMobile rather than cannibalize them, since SpaceX itself bundles in Starlink, xAI, and X rather than being a pure play.
  • He highlights that AST SpaceMobile's real-time short interest fell for the first time in 8-9 days, from $69 million down to $68.3 million and then to $66.8 million, which he interprets as a possible early sign of short covering similar to a pattern he says preceded the stock's run from $22 to $55 in June of the prior year.
  • From the Blue Origin factory tour aired on CNBC, Anpanman relays that Blue Origin is working on booster number 5 (with booster 4 expected to finish over the summer and booster 5 in the fall), is targeting a roughly 30-day booster refurbishment cadence, is producing one BE-4 engine every 4 days, and is running two parallel teams — one to make expendable New Glenn second stages cheap enough to compete with reusability, another pursuing a reusable second stage (GS2).
  • Anpanman confirms, live during the episode, that the third of three Block 2 Bluebird satellites (Bluebird 9) has shipped from the Texas facility, joining Bluebird 8 and 10 already en route to Cape Canaveral ahead of an expected mid-June launch.
  • Anpanman cautions against holding 2x leveraged AST SpaceMobile ETFs for extended periods, explaining that volatility decay causes these products to lose value in sideways/choppy markets and approach zero over time, though they can outperform more than 2x during sustained unidirectional rallies; he advises against using margin or options on top of these already-leveraged products.
  • He cites SpaceX's IPO S-1 disclosures showing a roughly $750 billion total addressable market for direct-to-device connectivity and a separate roughly $800 billion fixed broadband TAM, and argues AST's future mid-band (L-band/S-band) constellation will let it additionally compete in the fixed-wireless market currently served by Starlink, OneWeb, and Viasat, at speeds he estimates around 200-300+ Mbps.
  • Anpanman flags an SpaceX S-1 disclosure of $632 million in incremental 2025 growth from Starlink's consumer mobile (direct-to-cell) connectivity business, and a separately-discussed $18 ARPU figure for Starlink Mobile, both of which he says are much higher than the roughly $5 (developing markets) to $10 (developed markets) ARPU most investors underwrite for AST's own direct-to-device business.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Sentiment shift and space as a generational investment

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    AST SpaceMobile was trading at $63 on May 5, 2026, a point of maximum pessimism ('the pits'), when Anpanman tweeted that the 'endless rally' was starting; he calls this tweet prescient in hindsight given the subsequent rally.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He was inspired by a tweet from an account called Keaze MN comparing space today to past generational investment opportunities like railroads, early computers, oil, shipping, and dot-com, suggesting space may be the biggest opportunity of all, posted in response to the Blue Origin factory tour video.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He argues SpaceMob members are fortunate to be early participants in a transformational industry shift, noting that space companies historically had to go public via SPAC (rather than traditional IPO) because banks like Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley considered the business models too risky or too early to underwrite.

AST's SPAC origin story and personal investment history

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He explains he backed into his AST SpaceMobile position by originally holding warrants in New Providence Acquisition Corp, which then merged with AST; he reviewed the presentation, spoke with Abel Avellan, and decided to invest and write about it, not anticipating he'd hold the stock for 5 years as it grew this large.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He describes AST SpaceMobile at the time of its SPAC deal as effectively being at a 'Series C round' level of development, similar to other space SPACs like Rocket Lab and Planet Labs, some of which became multibaggers for early, conviction-holding investors while other SPAC-era space companies were 'half-baked' and hurt investors.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    He recalls legacy space and 'old defense prime' skeptics dismissing AST's core premise — connecting an unmodified phone directly to a satellite for broadband — as impossible ('you can't close a link budget'), and argues these detractors have been proven wrong but won't publicly change their view.

AI data centers in space

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    US Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick tweeted about meeting with Gwynne Shotwell of SpaceX to discuss AI data centers in space; Anpanman argues that while AST should focus on its direct-to-device constellation and military applications now, the AI data center opportunity is a natural progression, not a pivot, likely to become relevant within 1-2 years.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    AST SpaceMobile has almost 4,000 patents; he cites Elon Musk discussing satellites moving from 20 kilowatts toward eventually 100 kilowatts of onboard power (with competitor K2's first test satellite at 20 kilowatts aiming for 100), and estimates AST's Bluebird satellites, based on their Sharp solar cells, already generate 'a little over 100 kilowatts,' with his own estimate closer to 120 kilowatts.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He describes a partially confidential satellite element he calls 'the tail,' which he estimates adds roughly another 20 kilowatts of power on top of the phased array's output.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He acknowledges AST has not solved all heat-dissipation issues for continuous high-power operation, noting satellites cycle in and out of sunlight, but speculates the antenna elements on the underside of the Micron satellite bus could theoretically be re-architected as heat sinks in a sun-synchronous orbit to help dissipate heat.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He recalls an anecdote from around the Block 1 BlueBird launch in September 2024, where an early long-only investor (Hennessy) and a portfolio manager (Dave Rainey) told him AST's business would have several pillars — patent licensing, defense, commercial — and specifically power, since AST's satellites are the largest solar arrays in low Earth orbit; he says this planted the seed for his later AI-data-center thesis.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He believes once AST finishes deploying its low-band, mid-band, and possibly a government-focused constellation and is generating 'billions' in free cash flow, the company should pursue AI data centers, potentially partnering with Google (already a strategic investor), Amazon/Blue Origin, or others; he believes a 'Skunk Works'-style internal team may already be exploring this, and guesses a new disclosure on this could come within roughly a year.

SpaceX IPO and the connectivity profit engine

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    He cites SpaceX's S-1 showing that a large majority of revenue (he cites a figure around 70-84%, expressing some uncertainty) and effectively all of EBITDA come from Starlink connectivity rather than launch services, framing connectivity as the 'profit engine' funding future exploration goals like the Moon and Mars.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He argues the upcoming SpaceX IPO roadshow will introduce many institutional investors to the broader space sector for the first time, including comparisons to other space companies mentioned in the S-1, creating a 'halo effect' that draws institutional capital into pure-play space stocks like AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, Firefly, BlackSky, Planet Labs, and Redwire.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He personally does not plan to invest meaningfully in SpaceX at its expected $2-3 trillion valuation (though he'll buy one token share to track it), arguing SpaceX is not a pure play since it bundles in xAI, X (Twitter), and the pending Cursor acquisition; he speculates SpaceX could eventually spin off xAI and X if the combined entity trades at a conglomerate discount.

Stock price pattern, catalysts, and short interest

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    He traces AST's price pattern: a rally to $39 in summer 2024 post-AT&T/Verizon deals, consolidation into 2025, a run from roughly $20-25 to a high near $55 in June 2025 (helped by the Ligado deal going definitive and news around a Trump-Elon fallout), a peak near $129 in January 2026, a subsequent selloff, and a bottom near $63 in early May 2026 before the current rally.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He says AST's real-time short interest fell for the first time in 8-9 days, moving from an adjusted $69 million to $68.3 million and then to $66.8 million as of the episode; he attributes part of the elevated short interest to convertible-note arbitrageurs shorting stock as it rises to hedge deltas, and interprets the net decline as evidence of actual short covering beginning, potentially by short sellers or SpaceX-related investors who had used AST as a sector hedge ahead of the SpaceX IPO.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He states AST's prior intraday all-time high was around $128 and predicts the stock will break through that level in the next few weeks.

Blue Origin factory tour

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    From Jeff Bezos's CNBC factory tour, Blue Origin is currently flying booster 2 and booster 3 (booster 1 was lost after a failed landing), with booster 4 expected to finish sometime over the summer and booster 5 coming online in the fall; the company is targeting a roughly 30-day booster refurbishment/reflight cadence, which with two boosters supports launching about every two weeks, scaling up as more boosters join rotation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Bezos said his ambition is to eventually launch every week, then every day, then every hour; Anpanman notes that with 4 boosters in rotation and weekly launches of up to 8 Bluebirds each, a full constellation could theoretically be launched within about 3 months, though production cadence remains a gating factor.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Blue Origin is producing one BE-4 engine every 4 days (used on both New Glenn and ULA's Vulcan Centaur), and is on its 15th second-stage build; the company runs two parallel engineering tracks — one making expendable second stages cheap enough to beat reusable economics, another developing a reusable second stage (GS2) aimed at undercutting the expendable option.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He notes 5-6 engines were replaced/upgraded between New Glenn's first and second flights ('Never Tell Me the Odds'), and expresses skepticism that fully reusable upper-stage vehicles (referencing SpaceX's Starship) will be solved soon given the stress of re-entry, suggesting SpaceX could end up keeping Starship's upper stage expendable.

Bluebird 8/9/10 shipment update

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    During the live recording, Anpanman confirms Bluebird 9 shipped from the Texas facility about 12 minutes earlier, joining Bluebird 8 and 10 already shipped, completing the batch of three Block 2 satellites headed to Cape Canaveral for encapsulation into a SpaceX Falcon 9 fairing ahead of an expected mid-June launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He believes AST is hiring staff at Cape Canaveral to handle payload receiving and processing given the volume of Bluebirds being shipped for integration with Falcon 9, Blue Origin New Glenn, or ULA Vulcan Centaur.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He expects a Falcon 9 launch of this Bluebird batch in mid-June, with another launch likely in early July, and notes a second batch of satellites is getting close to shipment readiness as well.

Caution on leveraged 2x ETFs

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    A new 2x leveraged AST SpaceMobile ETF launched; Anpanman warns that leveraged products decay toward zero over time in sideways/choppy markets due to volatility drag and compounding, even though they can significantly outperform more than 2x during sustained unidirectional rallies.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He advises these products are only appropriate for short-term traders with perceived edge during clearly unidirectional trends, and explicitly warns against using margin or options on top of leveraged ETFs due to compounded volatility risk.

Fixed wireless market and future spectrum

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He expects that once AST's mid-band constellation is up and using 45-50 MHz of L-band spectrum in North America (via the Ligado deal) plus some quantum of S-band spectrum globally, the network will be able to compete in the fixed-wireless market currently served by Starlink, OneWeb, and Viasat, at speeds he estimates around 200-300+ Mbps (shared), lower than dedicated Starlink dish service but still strong performance via a phone or hotspot.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He speculates that with AI optimization, carrier aggregation, and MIMO across the low-band, mid-band, and eventually a C-band constellation, per-cell throughput could exceed a gigabit per second, or possibly multiple gigabits, though he flags this as uncertain ('I don't know').

SpaceX S-1 TAM figures and Starlink Mobile metrics

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    SpaceX's S-1 disclosed a roughly $750 billion total addressable market specifically for direct-to-device connectivity, separate from a roughly $800 billion figure he cites for fixed broadband; he frames the $750B as the relevant starting comparison point for AST, with the fixed-wireless TAM as additional future upside.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    SpaceX's S-1 disclosed $632 million of incremental 2025 growth in consumer mobile (direct-to-cell) connectivity revenue; he disputes analyst Tim Farrar's interpretation that this represents the total size of the business, arguing the language describes incremental growth (which may include some contract/activation revenue) rather than the full revenue base, and calls the underlying growth figure 'pretty damn bullish' for an intermittent service he views as inferior to AST's.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    An $18 ARPU (average revenue per user) figure was cited for Starlink Mobile, which Anpanman calls unusually high compared to the roughly $5 (developing markets) to $10 (developed markets) ARPU most investors underwrite for AST SpaceMobile's own direct-to-device business, though he notes uncertainty over whether the $18 figure reflects a standalone product or a partner-channel arrangement.

Watch Items6

  • Falcon 9 launch of the Bluebird 8/9/10 batch

    expected mid-June 2026 Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Second Falcon 9 launch of the next Bluebird batch

    expected early July 2026 (speculative) Anpanman 00:00:28
  • SpaceX IPO pricing

    expected June 2026 Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Blue Origin New Glenn static fire test

    'relatively soon' Anpanman 00:00:28
  • AST SpaceMobile breaking its prior all-time intraday high (~$128)

    expected 'in the next few weeks' Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Blue Origin booster 4 and booster 5 entering rotation

    booster 4 'over the summer,' booster 5 'in the fall' Anpanman 00:00:28

Open Questions6

  • When, if ever, will AST SpaceMobile formally disclose an AI data center initiative or partnership, and with whom (e.g. Google)?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Does the recent decline in AST's real-time short interest mark the start of a sustained short-covering trend similar to the pattern seen in the stock's June 2025 rally, or is it a temporary blip?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Will the SpaceX IPO's 'halo effect' actually translate into institutional capital flowing into pure-play space stocks like AST SpaceMobile, or will detractors be proven right that capital simply consolidates into SpaceX itself?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Does SpaceX's disclosed $632 million 'incremental growth' figure for Starlink Direct to Cell represent pure service revenue or does it include contract/activation revenue, and what was the actual 2024 baseline?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Is the cited $18 ARPU figure for Starlink Mobile from a standalone consumer product or achieved through a carrier-partner arrangement?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Can AST SpaceMobile's satellites be re-engineered (e.g. repurposing antenna-side elements as heat sinks in a sun-synchronous orbit) to solve continuous high-power heat dissipation needed for a future AI-data-center use case?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
2026-05-20 16:28

Anpanman - The Defense Tell

Anpanman

In this solo episode, Anpanman covers four main threads. The first is Anduril's new Voyager G1 warfighter communication device (which includes 4G LTE cellular), which he takes as a sign that Palmer Luckey's investment in AST SpaceMobile reflects the strategic value of AST's low-band satellite-to-cell connectivity for contested/military environments.

The second is an update suggesting Blue Origin's New Glenn second-stage anomaly was a simple quality-assurance miss rather than a design flaw, with FAA clearance and a possible static fire/launch attempt expected soon.

The third is a rundown of how many BlueBird satellites each launch vehicle (New Glenn, Falcon 9, ISRO, Vulcan Centaur, Ariane 6, Mitsubishi Heavy) can carry and how that maps to AST's production-cadence goals. The fourth is a long-run bull case for ASTS reaching $1,000/share, by analogy to how skeptics underestimated SpaceX/Starlink's valuation trajectory since 2021.

The headline conclusion is that AST's dual-use (commercial + defense) positioning and expanding launch/production capacity make a much higher long-term valuation plausible, though Anpanman is explicit he has no specific timeline for $1,000/share.

Key Takeaways

  • Anduril released the Voyager G1, a wearable warfighter communication device (originally developed by defense manufacturer KLAS) that supports Wi-Fi, Ethernet, and 4G LTE cellular connectivity for ground troops.
  • Anpanman argues the Voyager G1's cellular capability was effectively 'made for AST SpaceMobile,' since it isn't using MSS spectrum (not Iridium, Globalstar, or, as far as known, Starlink), and AST is the only satellite operator offering low-band cellular broadband connectivity that could serve such a device securely in a contested environment.
  • Palmer Luckey, Anduril's founder, is a disclosed investor in AST SpaceMobile (disclosed roughly a year prior in response to a question), which Anpanman frames as evidence Luckey anticipated this dual-use commercial/military convergence.
  • Anpanman's due diligence indicates the New Glenn second-stage anomaly (failure of one of two BE-3 engines to initiate a second burn) was caused by a simple, catchable quality-assurance/process oversight rather than a fundamental design flaw, and he expects the FAA investigation to clear soon, potentially enabling a static fire and launch attempt as soon as the following week.
  • Different launch vehicles carry different numbers of composite BlueBird satellites per launch: New Glenn up to 8 (potentially ~12 with the upgraded '9x4' variant), Falcon 9 up to 3, ISRO up to 2, ULA's Vulcan Centaur (max heavy config) up to 5, Ariane 6 (heaviest config) up to 5, and Mitsubishi Heavy up to 3 (though Mitsubishi Heavy's last launch suffered an anomaly and did not reach orbit).
  • Anpanman's bull-case guess is that the constellation could reach 45-60 satellites by around Q2 and the full ~100-satellite target by late Q3/early Q4, contingent on production cadence reaching 6-10 satellites per month.
  • Anpanman recalls that AST's Scott Wisniewski previously indicated the first mid-band BlueBird satellite could roll off the production line around Q1 2026 and potentially launch around Q2 2026, after which some production would shift toward lighting up the Ligado and other global S-band spectrum.
  • Anpanman believes a $1,000 ASTS share price is plausible (though he has no specific date for it), drawing a direct analogy to how a 2021 Morgan Stanley (Adam Jonas) report valuing SpaceX at $100 billion was widely dismissed as absurd at the time, yet SpaceX is now approaching a $2-3 trillion valuation depending on the prediction market.
  • Anpanman predicts that within the next 3-4 years, SpaceX could spin off xAI and X into a separate entity once that business becomes financially self-sufficient/profitable, since he views xAI as carrying probably negative value relative to SpaceX today.
  • Anpanman frames AST SpaceMobile's addressable market as extending well beyond phone connectivity to include Internet of Things devices, autonomous cars/trucks/drones, and defense applications (radar, early detection, electronic warfare/jamming) enabled by 60-100 large phased-array satellites in low Earth orbit.

Detailed Discussion5 topics

Anduril Voyager G1 and the defense dual-use case for AST SpaceMobile

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anduril just released (via a product originally developed by defense manufacturer KLAS) a warfighter communication device called the Voyager G1, providing tactical communications for ground troops; it's a wearable device offering multiple communication alternatives including Wi-Fi, Ethernet, and cellular.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:17

    The Voyager G1's cellular capability is specifically 4G LTE, not yet 5G.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Palmer Luckey is a disclosed investor in AST SpaceMobile, having revealed this roughly a year ago in response to someone asking him about it; Anpanman argues this shows Luckey saw the value of AST's constellation and dual-use potential for how Anduril-type products would connect.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    The Voyager G1 is, in his view, 'made for AST SpaceMobile' because it is not connecting over MSS spectrum — not Iridium, not Globalstar, and as far as he knows not Starlink; he's unsure whether Starshield can use cellular spectrum since it's classified.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    AST SpaceMobile is working with the Space Development Agency (SDA) around the 'proliferated warfighter' program, and any device used in a contested area would need secure satellite connectivity rather than local wireless carrier service — AST is the only satellite provider offering low-band cellular broadband connectivity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    His guess for how this plays out: in a contested environment, one device might broadcast a small local cellular network connecting warfighters, while satellite connectivity (from AST) provides redundancy or primary connectivity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    He expects other products beyond the Voyager G1 to also leverage the SDA's new constellation that AST is part of, calling this dual-use (commercial + military) trend 'a big tell' for where the industry is headed.

Blue Origin New Glenn — FAA investigation and anomaly cause

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:18

    Jeff Bezos's recent interview was expected to cover space topics but the interviewer instead focused mostly on class equality.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Based on signals from both AST management and people at Blue Origin, he believes the FAA investigation into the New Glenn second-stage anomaly is close to wrapping up, and Blue Origin's team appears to be lining up for a potential static fire of 'New Glenn 4' as soon as next week.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Per his own due diligence, the issue that prevented the second stage from initiating a second burn — involving one of the two BE-3 engines — was something simple that should have been caught in quality assurance before flight; it is not a design issue, more like a missed process step.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    He expects the FAA to clear New Glenn 'any day now' — possibly today, tomorrow, or over the weekend.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Everyone is also waiting to see what SpaceX's Starship 'S1' test looks like, expecting some interesting details to come out of it.

Bezos interview and Amazon/Blue Origin's space data-center ambitions

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:01:18

    One takeaway from the Bezos interview is a stated push and interest in building AI data centers in space.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:01:18

    Amazon and Blue Origin reportedly plan three constellations: Amazon LEO (fixed wireless to the home), TerraWave (high-speed enterprise-class connectivity to data centers), and a third constellation he could not recall.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Bezos did not discuss direct-to-device or direct-to-cell service; Amazon previously did a deal with Globalstar, and Anpanman speculates Amazon may still be figuring out its direct-to-device strategy or may have just acquired cheap spectrum via that deal.

Launch vehicle stacking capacity and satellite production cadence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Responding to a listener question about maximum satellite stacking per rocket and whether nearly all satellites could be in orbit by the end of next year at a 2x-launches-per-month cadence, Anpanman said that's incorrect — the company would actually get all satellites in place sooner than that.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:01:18

    If the company reaches a production cadence of at least 6 satellites per month, eventually inching up to 8, 10, or 12 (which the company has talked about), after the initial 100 satellites are up they might slow production down somewhat.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    New Glenn's maximum stack is 8 BlueBird satellites; if Blue Origin moves to the upgraded '9x4' New Glenn variant, that could rise to roughly 12 satellites per launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Falcon 9 can carry 3 composite BlueBirds per launch; ISRO can carry 2.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    A new launch provider, ULA's Vulcan Centaur, can reportedly carry up to 5 composite BlueBirds in its maximum heavy configuration (with 6 solid rocket boosters) — roughly equivalent to Falcon Heavy's capacity, which surprised him.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Ariane 6 in its heaviest configuration can reportedly carry up to 5 BlueBirds.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Mitsubishi Heavy — a launch provider the company is reportedly in talks with, alongside Ariane — could carry up to 3 BlueBirds, though its last launch suffered an anomaly and failed to reach orbit.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    If production reaches 6-10 satellites per month, the company could get to nearly 100 satellites by mid-year if 'really cooking,' or by mid-to-third-quarter otherwise.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:01:18

    He recalled that Scott Wisniewski had mentioned the first mid-band BlueBird might roll off the production line around Q1 2026 and/or potentially be launched around Q2, after which some production would shift toward that constellation to light up the Ligado spectrum and other global S-band spectrum the company can secure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    His bull-case estimate: reaching 45-60 satellites by around Q2, and the full ~100-satellite constellation by late Q3 or early Q4.

Long-term ASTS valuation — the $1,000/share thesis

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    Asked when ASTS could hit $1,000/share, he said he doesn't have an exact date but believes it's absolutely possible, citing massive addressable markets beyond phone connectivity — IoT devices, autonomous cars/trucks/drones, and defense (radar, early detection, electronic warfare/jamming) using 60-100 of the largest phased arrays in low Earth orbit.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    He references Pierre Leonet, a France-based legacy space consultant/economist, who rebutted a 2021 Morgan Stanley report (by analyst Adam Jonas) point-by-point, arguing a $100 billion SpaceX valuation didn't make sense and that SpaceX would never get there.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    That 2021 Morgan Stanley report was the source of the idea that Starlink made up the majority of SpaceX's economics — roughly 65-70% of revenue/profit contribution back then; today he estimates it's closer to 75% of revenue and perhaps around 80% of profit contribution.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    SpaceX is now approaching a $2-3 trillion valuation (depending on the prediction market) via a potential IPO, up from the once-dismissed $100 billion 2021 estimate — roughly a 30x increase.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    He argues xAI, which SpaceX has 'glommed onto,' probably carries a negative value relative to SpaceX today.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:18

    He predicts that within the next 3-4 years, SpaceX will spin off xAI and X into a separate entity once that business reaches financial independence/profitability, since it wouldn't make sense to keep it bundled with SpaceX at that point.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:30

    Drawing the parallel forward: if SpaceX was worth $100 billion with Starlink worth $65-70 billion of that, then AST SpaceMobile at $800 million (historically) looked cheap; today SpaceX is worth $2-3 trillion and AST SpaceMobile is at $30 billion, so a $1,000/share outcome for ASTS is not unreasonable, though he can't say exactly when.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:30

    His personal guess is that $1,000/share could be reasonable within 2 to 3 years, though he stresses this is not a firm prediction.

Watch Items4

  • FAA investigation into the New Glenn second-stage anomaly wrapping up, potentially followed by a static fire and launch attempt

    Could clear 'any day now' — today, tomorrow, or over the weekend; static fire/launch attempt possibly as soon as next week Anpanman 00:01:18
  • SpaceX Starship 'S1' test

    Upcoming, unspecified date Anpanman 00:01:18
  • First mid-band BlueBird rolling off the production line and/or launching

    Roll-off around Q1 2026; potential launch around Q2 2026 (per Scott Wisniewski, as recalled by Anpanman) Anpanman 00:01:18
  • Constellation reaching 45-60 satellites, then the full ~100-satellite target

    Bull case: 45-60 satellites by around Q2; full ~100 satellites by late Q3/early Q4 Anpanman 00:01:18

Open Questions4

  • Whether Starshield (SpaceX's classified government satellite system) can use cellular spectrum for direct-to-device-style connectivity is unknown, since the program is classified.

    Anpanman 00:01:18
  • What the 'third' Amazon/Blue Origin constellation (beyond Amazon LEO and TerraWave) mentioned by Bezos actually is — Anpanman could not recall it.

    Anpanman 00:01:18
  • Why Amazon pursued its deal with Globalstar and whether Amazon has a direct-to-device strategy, versus simply acquiring cheap spectrum.

    Anpanman 00:01:18
  • Exactly when ASTS could reach $1,000/share — Anpanman is explicit he has no specific date, only a directional view that it's achievable.

    Anpanman 00:14:30
2026-05-19 33:09

Anpanman - The Great Satellite Pivot

Anpanman

Anpanman, solo-hosting this AST SpaceMobile Podcast episode, breaks down AT&T CEO John Stankey's keynote address, given the morning of the episode, about the new AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture for satellite-to-cellular connectivity. T-Mobile's CEO had made similar but vaguer comments the day before.

Anpanman's headline conclusion is that despite careful, regulator-friendly "pro-competition" language, every substantive detail Stankey gave describes AST SpaceMobile's architecture specifically, not Starlink's. Those details include pooling scarce low-band spectrum, shared ground-station infrastructure, and unified standards based on 3GPP integration into the MNO core network.

He adds that T-Mobile joining the JV signals a hard pivot away from its Starlink partnership. He frames this as extremely bullish for AST, positioning it as the enabling technology for a wholesale satellite market across all three major US carriers, with commercial service targeted for the second half of 2026.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman argues that AT&T CEO John Stankey's keynote address, in which he was asked specifically about the new AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture, described an architecture (deep MNO-network-core integration, low-band spectrum pooling, shared ground stations) that only matches AST SpaceMobile, not Starlink, even though Stankey never named AST as the exclusive provider.
  • T-Mobile's participation in the joint venture is interpreted by Anpanman as a pivot away from its existing Starlink Direct-to-Cell partnership, since T-Mobile already has nationwide 5x5 MHz of 1.9 GHz PCS spectrum committed to Starlink and would have no technical need to 'pool spectrum resources' with AT&T/Verizon unless it were shifting toward AST's low-band, network-integrated model instead.
  • Anpanman contrasts the two competing architectures: AST SpaceMobile integrates directly into an MNO's network core (the MNO controls pricing, packaging, and seamless handovers between terrestrial and satellite), whereas Starlink Direct-to-Cell operates as a separate roaming network that Starlink itself controls, with the carrier having no control over service menu or seamless integration.
  • Anpanman claims T-Mobile's deal with Starlink is an 80/20 revenue split favoring Starlink, versus AST SpaceMobile's 50/50 revenue-share arrangement with AT&T and Verizon, and speculates this economic gap is another reason T-Mobile is shifting toward the AST-centered joint venture.
  • Stankey laid out four strategic reasons for the joint venture — unified standards/lobbying, spectrum optimization (pooling low-band spectrum), building a robust wholesale satellite market, and efficient/shared ground-station infrastructure — all of which Anpanman argues describe AST SpaceMobile's approach rather than Starlink's proprietary, self-contained network.
  • Anpanman notes the joint venture's public messaging (fostering competition, a 'robust wholesale market' with multiple constellations) is calculated language meant to satisfy an expected Department of Justice and FCC antitrust/competition review, not necessarily a commitment to actually using multiple satellite providers.
  • Anpanman speculates the DOJ review may ultimately require each carrier to negotiate satellite pricing individually rather than collectively as a cartel through the joint venture, though he doesn't see this as a threat to AST's long-term economics.
  • Anpanman states Stankey indicated commercial service from the joint venture is targeted to begin in the second half of 2026, and that AT&T is 'quarterbacking' the entire joint venture given its lead role in building network integration on AST's behalf.
  • Anpanman points to a technical performance gap: Block 1 BlueBird satellites (launched 2024) reportedly achieve 100 Mbps, Block 2 satellites are expected to roughly double that, while Starlink Direct-to-Cell today delivers around 5 Mbps, with its planned second-generation satellite (dependent on Starship's success, possibly not launching until 2027-2029) targeting only about 150 Mbps.
  • Anpanman argues the joint venture also has national-security and emergency-response implications, since FirstNet (AT&T's public-safety network) is powered by AST SpaceMobile, meaning all three carriers pooling resources around AST would benefit first responders during natural disasters when terrestrial towers fail.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

Setup and regulatory framing of the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:50

    Anpanman explains that because the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture will have to go through Department of Justice and FCC review for antitrust and consumer-benefit concerns, the companies must be very careful in how they publicly describe the venture's structure and goals, framing everything around fostering competition and consumer choice.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:50

    Anpanman notes that the T-Mobile CEO spoke about the JV the day before (in generic, blanket terms) and that Verizon said comparatively little, but John Stankey's keynote the next morning devoted roughly 7 minutes to the JV topic, of which about 1 to 1.5 minutes specifically addressed AST SpaceMobile; Anpanman posted a cleaned-up transcript of Stankey's remarks.

Stankey's comments on the AST SpaceMobile partnership

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:50

    Anpanman relays that Stankey described satellite service as a complement to AT&T's terrestrial network, aiming for a seamless, 100%-connectivity experience where consumers never notice a drop in coverage, extending beyond texting into full broadband use.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:50

    Anpanman states Stankey explicitly said AT&T's partnership with AST SpaceMobile 'remains strong' and that AST's direct-to-device approach provides a seamless product extending AT&T's own network, unlike Starlink's separate roaming-style network.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:50

    Anpanman recaps the history of the AT&T/AST relationship: AT&T began looking at AST around 2018-2019, started working closely in 2020, made a strategic investment in January 2024, and signed a commercial agreement in May 2024; he frames the joint venture as 'Stankey's baby.'

AST vs. Starlink architecture comparison

2
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:50

    Anpanman explains that AST SpaceMobile operates as a wholesaler fully integrated into the MNO's network core, with seamless handover between terrestrial and satellite and the MNO (not AST) controlling the eNodeB, service packages, and pricing — whereas Starlink offers a separate roaming network not integrated into the MNO core, with Starlink itself dictating the menu of services available.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman argues that Lynk Global has the same architectural drawback as Starlink — it places the eNodeB/network brains in the satellite itself, making it operate like a roaming network rather than being integrated into a carrier's core, and says Lynk has 'hit a wall' with limited momentum in intermittent low-band texting.

T-Mobile's apparent pivot away from Starlink

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman recounts that at yesterday's T-Mobile event, the CEO said T-Mobile might have spectrum in one area (e.g., a national park) but not another, whereas Verizon might have coverage there, so pooling resources could help — but Anpanman says this framing doesn't logically apply to Starlink, since T-Mobile's existing 5x5 MHz, 1.9 GHz PCS G-block spectrum committed to Starlink is already nationwide; he concludes the CEO must instead be referring to pooling low-band spectrum (specifically around 800 MHz) with AT&T and Verizon for use with AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman notes Starlink is acquiring EchoStar, which will give it roughly 60 MHz of spectrum in total, arguing there would be no need for Starlink to 'pool' additional spectrum since it will already have what it needs — reinforcing his view that T-Mobile's spectrum-pooling comments are about AST-related low-band spectrum, not Starlink.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman speculates that former T-Mobile CEO Mike Sievert was the original architect of the Starlink partnership, and suggests (without certainty) that Sievert's abrupt firing may have been connected to his having effectively 'birthed a competitor' in Starlink after Deutsche Telekom had approved the original deal.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman argues that if T-Mobile truly viewed Starlink as its key enabling technology, joining this AT&T/Verizon-centered joint venture would make no sense — concluding the JV is structured to let T-Mobile walk away from Starlink and align with AST instead.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman mentions that T-Mobile's exclusivity arrangement with Starlink is expiring this summer, which he suggests is when T-Mobile 'started to realize' it needed to shift toward working with AT&T and Verizon on AST.

Stankey's four strategic reasons for the joint venture

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:50

    Reason 1, unified standards and lobbying: Stankey said it's inefficient for carriers to lobby separately on handset design and spectrum capabilities, and that combining software IP lets them establish unified standards for heterogeneous networks to interoperate; Anpanman argues this specifically describes AST's 3GPP-based, backwards-compatible, standards-based approach versus Starlink's proprietary network.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:50

    Reason 2, spectrum optimization: Stankey said a full portfolio of scarce low-band and mid-band spectrum is necessary, and that aggregating traffic lets the carriers engineer a better, more widely available service using licensed spectrum efficiently; Anpanman says AST SpaceMobile is the only provider that can deliver broadband over low-band spectrum to unmodified phones.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:50

    Reason 3, a robust wholesale market: Stankey said the JV's primary goal is to foster a wholesale satellite market with multiple constellations, keeping pricing in check via healthy competition and preventing a single provider from dictating terms — framed by Anpanman as language crafted specifically to satisfy DOJ/FCC regulators rather than a genuine multi-vendor plan.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:50

    Reason 4, efficient infrastructure sharing: Stankey said building separate, redundant ground-station infrastructure three times over (once per carrier) makes no sense, and the JV lets them build shared ground infrastructure using common standards that routes traffic to each carrier's separate mobile core; Anpanman says this only makes sense if using a single constellation (AST), since Starlink already owns and operates its own separate ground infrastructure and eNodeB.

Economics: revenue share and contract terms

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman states AST SpaceMobile has a 50/50 revenue-share split with AT&T and Verizon, compared to what he describes as an 80/20 split favoring Starlink under its deal with T-Mobile, and argues the JV's 'keep pricing in check' language implicitly signals dissatisfaction with Starlink's economics.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman notes the AT&T commercial contract with AST runs through 2030, and the Verizon contract runs through 2030 or 2029 (he is not fully certain which), and speculates that if T-Mobile joins under a most-favored-nation clause, it would likely also get a 50/50 deal like AT&T and Verizon.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman speculates that even if the DOJ requires the carriers to negotiate pricing individually rather than collectively through the JV (to avoid cartel-like behavior), and even if AST has to give up some revenue-share percentage over time (e.g., in 2031-2032) to keep 100% of the US market, that trade-off would still be a good deal for AST and is not a long-term threat to its economics.

Traffic share, dead-zone coverage, and national security/FirstNet

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:50

    Anpanman notes Stankey (and separately the T-Mobile CEO) said satellite traffic today represents a very small percentage of total network traffic — T-Mobile cited roughly 0.005% of its network traffic — which Anpanman attributes to today's intermittent texting/narrowband use case rather than to low consumer demand; he expects usage to rise once broadband service is available.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman contrasts coverage precision: Starlink can only address large geographic dead zones because it can't beam to specific fixed cells, whereas AST SpaceMobile can pinpoint small dead-zone areas (e.g., a beach or a specific neighborhood), something he says Starlink can't do today.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman argues the joint venture has national-security and emergency-response implications since FirstNet (AT&T's public-safety network) is powered by AST SpaceMobile, meaning pooled resources across all three carriers would help first responders and disaster victims when terrestrial towers fail during tornadoes, hurricanes, or fires.

Competitive outlook for Starlink and technical performance comparison

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman speculates that Starlink executives Gwynne Shotwell and Dave Goldman are upset about this standards-based, network-integrated, spectrum-pooling approach because it signals Starlink will lack an MNO partner willing to advocate for it, forcing Starlink into a direct-to-consumer sales strategy (advertising an eSIM add-on service) rather than deep carrier integration.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:50

    Anpanman says Block 1 BlueBird satellites (launched in 2024) achieve 100 megabits per second, Block 2 satellites are expected to roughly double that, versus Starlink Direct-to-Cell's current speed of around 5 megabits per second; he attributes the Block 1 figure to a mention by Scott [Wisniewski] the prior day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman states Starlink's second-generation satellite, which depends on Starship's success (including unresolved technical issues around returning and landing the second stage without heat-tile damage), is expected to launch around 2027-2029 and target roughly 150 megabits per second, an outcome he says 'remains yet to be seen.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:50

    Anpanman speculates the joint venture could in the future work with other constellations such as Amazon's once they have a workable solution, but notes that once the deep network-core integration with AST is built out, it would be very hard to rip and replace; he also notes T-Mobile (unlike AT&T and Verizon, which have exclusivity with AST) could potentially offer consumers a choice between AST-based broadband service and a separate Starlink eSIM subscription.

Watch Items4

  • Joint venture (AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile) commercial satellite service launch, expected to leverage AST SpaceMobile

    Second half of 2026, per Stankey's keynote as relayed by Anpanman Anpanman 00:00:50
  • Department of Justice / FCC antitrust and competition review of the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture

    Not specified; described as an upcoming regulatory review process Anpanman 00:00:50
  • Expiration of T-Mobile's exclusivity arrangement with Starlink

    This summer (2026), per Anpanman Anpanman 00:00:50
  • Starlink second-generation Direct-to-Cell satellite launch (dependent on Starship success), targeting ~150 Mbps

    Anpanman estimates 2027-2029 Anpanman 00:00:50

Open Questions4

  • Will the Department of Justice require AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile to negotiate satellite pricing individually rather than collectively through the joint venture, to avoid antitrust/cartel concerns?

    Anpanman 00:00:50
  • Will the joint venture eventually add other satellite constellations (e.g., Amazon's) once they have a workable direct-to-device solution, given the JV's public 'multiple constellations' framing?

    Anpanman 00:00:50
  • Will T-Mobile actually secure a most-favored-nation 50/50 revenue-share deal with AST similar to AT&T and Verizon, or will its terms differ?

    Anpanman 00:00:50
  • How will Starlink respond competitively if it is left without a supportive MNO partner and must rely on direct-to-consumer eSIM sales instead?

    Anpanman 00:00:50
2026-05-18 1:02:39

Kook's Weekly - May 18 - SpaceMobile's Global Checkmate

Kook

Kook is solo-hosting this Kook's Weekly recap after the May 11 Q1 2026 earnings call and the surprise AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite JV announcement. He argues both events confirm AST SpaceMobile's position as the indispensable direct-to-cell infrastructure layer for US carriers trying to keep Starlink from becoming a de facto fourth mobile network operator.

He walks through the physics reason only AST's large phased arrays can deliver true low-band broadband (vs. Starlink's text-message-grade speeds).

He recaps earnings-call disclosures on manufacturing, radar/Golden Dome, ASIC completion and a new ULA launch partnership. He also highlights AST's already-locked-in Africa and Europe carrier contracts and heavily aligned shareholder base.

His headline conclusion is that the market hasn't yet priced in AST's global contractual dominance or the potential short-covering rally from a heavily shorted float. He isn't troubled by the post-earnings revenue-miss pullback.

Key Takeaways

  • AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile announced a joint venture around satellite-to-cell/direct-to-device service; Kook interprets this as a defensive move by the three carriers to box out SpaceX's Starlink Direct to Cell rather than a genuine dead-zone-coverage initiative, with AST SpaceMobile positioned as the technology the alliance is built around.
  • Kook believes the JV is very unlikely to become a single-buyer 'cartel' that squeezes AST on price, both because of Department of Justice antitrust risk and because AST has other markets (Europe, Africa, government/first-responder) it could lean on if US carrier pricing turned hostile; he expects the JV to be narrowly scoped to spectrum coordination, technical specs, and possibly gateways.
  • Kook explains that low-band radio waves are physically larger, requiring phased-array antenna elements to be spaced farther apart to avoid interference, so only a satellite antenna as large as AST's BlueBird design can generate usable low-band beams for direct-to-cell — which he says is why Starlink cannot match AST on low-band spectrum.
  • Citing recent test data, Kook says AST achieved effective speeds of roughly 100 megabits per second today via carrier aggregation of multiple spectrum slivers, with next-generation (Block 2/FM1-class) satellites expected to nearly double that to around 200 megabits per second, versus a roughly 3 megabits-per-second real-world test result cited for Starlink Direct to Cell in the North Sea.
  • Kook says AT&T's and Verizon's existing commercial agreements with AST run through 2030 and are not affected by the new JV unless AST separately agreed to amend them, which is unconfirmed.
  • On the Q1 2026 earnings call, Kook says Scott Wisniewski explicitly confirmed radar capability for the first time, and Abel Avellan said it does not require mid-band spectrum and is already being used today on low-band spectrum for non-communications government use cases; the company also disclosed an additional Golden Dome-related award.
  • Kook says AST disclosed adding United Launch Alliance (ULA) as a new launch partner, with roughly 5 AST satellites fitting on a ULA rocket (the Vulcan/Centaur), adding to its existing SpaceX, Blue Origin, and ISRO launch agreements.
  • Kook describes AST as having effectively locked in exclusive or preferential relationships with major African carriers (Vodacom, Safaricom, MTN Nigeria, Orange/Axian) and with European carriers via its SatCo joint venture, calling this global contractual head start before commercial service even launches an underappreciated barrier to entry.
  • Kook highlights that AST's major partners — Verizon, AT&T, Vodafone, Telus (Canada), Google, and Rakuten — all hold AST stock, which he says aligns their financial incentive with AST's share-price success rather than squeezing the company on commercial terms.
  • Kook flags roughly 60 million AST shares sold short, which he estimates at over 30% of the free float, and argues that if short sellers are eventually forced to cover as the bullish thesis plays out, the resulting buy pressure could sharply move the stock ('a biblical shrinkage of the float').
  • Kook says he was not troubled by the Q1 2026 earnings call despite a revenue miss and a stock pullback, framing the update as confirmation of scaled manufacturing, continued technical outperformance, and new government/commercial business rather than a disappointment.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Investing Philosophy and Context

3
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:30

    Kook describes learning to think like investor Ron Baron, who identifies generational founders and secular trends and reduces theses to simple math (e.g., his early Tesla thesis: assume a market-share percentage, apply gross margin, get EBIT, apply a multiple); Kook says he has tried to apply that same simplicity to his AST SpaceMobile thesis rather than constantly cycling through new ideas.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook notes the stock hit $60 at the end of July (roughly a year prior) before a convertible bond announcement (attributed to Scott Wisniewski, 'the Lewski') knocked the stock down; he says the stock is now up nearly 30% from that prior high print on a year-over-year basis, and argues compounding at 20-30% a year while otherwise 'doing nothing' is the real source of outperformance.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook mentions reading a recent Hennessy (investment firm) letter that he felt was written 'as if they know something,' particularly around military/government use cases, suggesting the firm may have unusually specific insight into AST's government revenue opportunity.

AT&T / Verizon / T-Mobile Joint Venture

10
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:30

    Kook says he was woken around 5 a.m. by Anpanman after Bloomberg headlines reported the three major US mobile carriers creating a joint venture without mentioning AST SpaceMobile or SpaceX by name; Anpanman called it 'the Verizon moment' (referencing Verizon's 2024 AST investment) and urged Kook to buy, but Kook felt he already owned enough.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:30

    Kook notes Abel Avellan tweeted an AST SpaceMobile press release commending the JV, and separately reacted to the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile announcement with a smiley cowboy emoji, which Kook reads as confirmation the JV is good news for AST.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook argues the JV cannot legally be structured as a single buyer's cartel facing AST or SpaceX because of Department of Justice antitrust risk, and predicts it will instead be a narrowly scoped layer handling spectrum coordination, technical specs, and possibly shared gateways — aimed at pooling spectrum to box SpaceX out rather than aggregating purchasing power over AST.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook says AT&T's and Verizon's existing commercial agreements with AST already run through 2030 and cannot be unilaterally changed by the new JV, unless AST itself proactively agreed to amend them, which is not yet known.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook relays a corporate-legal contact ('James Zington') independently concluding the JV press release is not about dead-zone coverage but about keeping SpaceX out, corroborating Kook's own read.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook says it has been confirmed (including via Starlink executives' own interviews) that T-Mobile only had a one-year deal with AST SpaceMobile with a lifetime value of about $100 million, and speculates T-Mobile's closing of a deal with Grain Management for 800 MHz spectrum (which Grain wants to operationalize quickly per an active FCC docket) points toward Grain doing a deal with AST, since AST is effectively the only company that can use low-band spectrum for direct-to-cell effectively.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:30

    Kook cites Roth Capital (sell-side) concluding the carrier 'triumvirate' JV caters to AST SpaceMobile, and Will Townsend stating on record that he views the alliance as a defensive move to mitigate the impact of any non-terrestrial network provider (i.e., Starlink) that might compete more directly with the mobile network operators — a view Kook says matches his own.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:30

    Kook acknowledges some investors raised a fair question about whether the JV creates a single-buyer market with pricing pressure on AST (an 'OPEC of MNOs'); his rebuttal is that the US is only one market among many AST serves (Europe, Africa, government/first-responder), and that non-traditional future buyers (Meta, Google, and eventually device makers like Anthropic or an OpenAI phone) could further reduce AST's dependence on the three US carriers.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook argues AST has no real competitor because it built a fundamentally different, larger and more powerful satellite (he cites a figure of roughly 60 times the performance of what Starlink presently has), and that the integration required (e.g., AT&T reportedly using about 200 people to make AST traffic run natively on its network, billing, IMS, voicemail, and lawful intercept) plus a 2-3 year minimum regulatory pathway for spectrum/constellation authorization make it very difficult for any MNO to commoditize or replace AST.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook cites a Sequoia partner, Sean Maguire, saying he believes direct-to-cell will be a bigger market than the original consumer internet business, a view Kook shares; he contrasts SpaceX's roughly $20 billion in spectrum investment with an increasingly unclear D2C path if it loses T-Mobile, comparing SpaceX's situation to Elon Musk's difficult position in AI (xAI/Grok) versus Anthropic and OpenAI, and speculates SpaceX's eventual answer for its IPO narrative could be building its own phone.

Why Only AST Can Deliver Low-Band Direct-to-Cell

3
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:30

    Kook explains that low-band spectrum has physically larger radio waves, requiring the antenna elements that generate them to be spaced farther apart to avoid interference, so a phased array needs to be large to produce usable low-band beams; AST is the only company with a phased array large enough to do this effectively (he says Lynk might attempt it, but not effectively).

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:30

    Kook cites recent testing showing AST achieved carrier aggregation (combining multiple slivers of spectrum to a single device) to reach effective speeds of about 100 megabits per second, which he says was not achievable on a single 5 MHz sliver alone; he says next-generation satellites (bigger, with more/stronger beams) are expected to nearly double this to about 200 megabits per second, versus a roughly 3 megabits-per-second speed measured for Starlink in a real-world North Sea test, which he says is only suitable for basic text messaging, not true broadband.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:38:48

    Kook references additional test data showing spectral efficiency of up to 6 bits per second per hertz, which he says shows AST's technology delivering performance beyond what was previously thought possible with large antenna arrays.

Q1 2026 Earnings Call Recap — Manufacturing, ASIC, and Launch

6
  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook says he was not disappointed by the Q1 2026 earnings call despite the stock trading off following a revenue miss, framing the report as an update from management to shareholders on a business already performing well (scaled manufacturing, strong technical progress, regulatory posture, and balance sheet) rather than a true disappointment.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook says imagery from the earnings materials showed the next batch of BlueBirds (after the first batch) in final integration and testing, with 'Bluebird 8' appearing already packaged; he stresses 'no one knows when they're going to ship' and speculates — based purely on the visuals — that two batches of satellites could be ready to ship in July, explicitly flagging this as his own guess rather than confirmed guidance.

  • Kook Speculation 00:38:48

    Kook relays that Tanner (an engineer in the community) did an image breakdown suggesting the fifth satellite of the next launch batch is in final testing, which Tanner and Kook interpret as implying a July launch — again framed as inference from photos, not confirmed by the company.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:30

    Kook says the earnings materials and 10-K confirmed the AST5000 ASIC is complete and has been incorporated into the production line, which he says increases processing bandwidth and beam capacity for next-generation satellites.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:48:30

    Kook says the company disclosed it will use United Launch Alliance (ULA) for future launches in addition to SpaceX, Blue Origin, and ISRO, stating AST believes it can fit 5 satellites on a ULA rocket (the Centaur), which he calls a 'big boy rocket' commonly associated with the US military.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:30

    Kook notes Blue Origin tweeted a photo showing two additional New Glenn boosters in its hangar, which he reads as Blue Origin standing up an aggressive launch cadence that will meaningfully add launch supply capacity given New Glenn's larger payload capacity versus Falcon 9.

Radar, Golden Dome, and Government Business

3
  • Kook Company Guidance 00:38:48

    Kook says Scott Wisniewski explicitly confirmed radar capability on the earnings call for the first time (previously only referenced obliquely as 'non-communication use cases'), and Abel Avellan added that the radar capability does not require mid-band spectrum and has already been deployed and used today on low-band spectrum.

  • Kook Speculation 00:38:48

    Kook recalls past mockery of speculation (attributed to a commentator nicknamed 'Katzi') that AST satellites had suspicious flyover timing coinciding with sophisticated US electronic-warfare campaigns, and says the confirmed radar disclosure validates that these capabilities were already in use and will scale with AST's growing satellite coverage.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:48:30

    Kook says Scott Wisniewski mentioned the company received another award related to Golden Dome on the call, and that he expects more such awards going forward; he also notes the Hennessy letter appeared unusually specific about the government revenue opportunity, suggesting deeper insight than the market currently has.

Global Commercial Contracts — Africa, Europe, and Aligned Cap Table

5
  • Kook Speculation 00:00:30

    Kook says AST has effectively 'conquered' Africa contractually, naming carriers Vodacom, Safaricom, MTN Nigeria, Axian, and Orange as already locked in, comparable to the commercial JV-like dominance he says AST already has in the US and Europe, calling this global contractual head start before commercial satellites even launch an underappreciated barrier to entry.

  • Kook Speculation 00:38:48

    Kook cites a commentator, Alex from Babylon, saying the market completely missed that AST locked down Africa in the same way it locked down the US and EU.

  • Kook Speculation 00:38:48

    Kook cites Anpanman flagging a tweet from Daniel Thomas (sales/commercial, SatCo) about working with European partners, and says Anpanman predicts Deutsche Telekom will eventually join AST's European carrier roster, noting recent Deutsche Telekom comments Kook interprets as suggestive of that outcome — explicitly framed as prediction, not yet confirmed.

  • Kook Speculation 00:38:48

    Kook notes that Verizon, AT&T, Vodafone, Telus (Canada), and Google all own AST stock, and Rakuten still owns a reduced stake after recently realizing what Kook estimates was roughly $400 million in gains from a partial sale; he argues this aligned cap table gives AST's largest commercial partners a financial incentive to want AST's stock — and by extension AST's business — to succeed rather than to squeeze it on commercial terms.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:30

    Kook cites a pre-JV earnings-call exchange in which Craig Moffett asked T-Mobile CFO Peter Osvaldik about competition from AST and Amazon/Globalstar's direct-to-cell offerings; Osvaldik reportedly called them complements and said T-Mobile was excited about having a broad competitive set including AST and the Amazon/Globalstar partnership.

TAM Expansion and Tower Disruption

3
  • Kook Speculation 00:48:30

    Kook cites research shared by 'Only 6 Inches,' attributed to Lynk's former founder Charles Miller, characterizing the direct-to-cell opportunity as a multi-hundred-billion-dollar business potentially serving up to 8 billion customers — the first satellite business in history with billions of potential paying customers.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:30

    Kook says the FCC's recent posture encourages 'functional equivalence' between terrestrial and satellite spectrum use for buildout requirements, citing AT&T's recently acquired EchoStar spectrum now being eligible to use direct-to-device to meet some buildout requirements, which he frames as fuel for MNOs replacing uneconomical rural towers with AST's service.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:30

    Kook quotes a community member ('NotKen2024') who says he used to build and own rural cell towers, sold his tower portfolio after learning about AST years ago, and rolled a chunk of proceeds into AST stock, arguing MNOs will save billions per year in uneconomical tower spend by using AST instead.

Short Interest and Float Dynamics

1
  • Kook Speculation 00:38:48

    Kook says roughly 60 million AST shares are currently sold short, which he estimates at over 30% of the free float, and argues this represents a large amount of 'synthetic dilution' since borrowed-and-sold shares are effectively outstanding; he argues that if short sellers are eventually forced to cover as the bullish thesis is validated, the reversal would act like a large stock buyback and could sharply move the market-clearing price.

Closing Outlook

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:48:30

    Kook says the JV news reinforces his belief that AST is the carrier-neutral winner and that SpaceX, while a real competitor scaring the MNOs, is mainly a threat in the B2B market (competing to be a wholesale satellite provider to carriers) rather than truly threatening AST's position, because the MNOs' fear of Starlink is what is driving them toward AST — potentially giving AST something close to a monopoly on the B2B2C side.

  • Kook Speculation 01:01:22

    Kook closes by predicting the following week will be unusually quiet with 'literally nothing' happening, joking there may be no weekly recap or X Space episode next week unless news breaks.

Watch Items5

  • Two batches of Block 2 BlueBird satellites potentially ready to ship, based on Kook's own visual read of AST's investor imagery (explicitly unconfirmed — 'no one knows when they're going to ship')

    July (Kook's own speculative estimate) Kook 00:00:30
  • Fifth satellite of the next launch batch reportedly shown in final testing per a community image analysis (Tanner), interpreted as implying an upcoming launch

    July (inferred, not company-confirmed) Kook 00:38:48
  • Blue Origin's New Glenn launch cadence — two additional boosters shown in the hangar, suggesting an accelerating launch schedule relevant to AST's Block 2 launch capacity

    Not specified Kook 00:48:30
  • Possible Deutsche Telekom addition to AST's European carrier partnerships

    Predicted by Anpanman, not yet confirmed Kook 00:38:48
  • Final structure and scope of the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture, including any Department of Justice review

    Details not yet released as of this episode Kook 00:00:30

Open Questions4

  • What exact legal and operational structure will the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture take, and could it change AST's existing bilateral commercial agreements with AT&T and Verizon?

    Kook 00:00:30
  • Could the new carrier JV eventually create single-buyer pricing pressure on AST in the US market, effectively acting like an 'OPEC of MNOs'?

    Kook 00:00:30
  • When will AST actually ship its next batches of Block 2 BlueBird satellites, including the satellite referred to as 'Bluebird 8'?

    Kook 00:00:30
  • What is SpaceX's long-term strategic path in direct-to-cell if it loses T-Mobile as a US carrier partner — will it attempt to build its own phone, or pivot its invested spectrum/satellite capacity to something else entirely?

    Kook 00:00:30
2026-05-18 18:23

Anpanman - SpaceMobile's Royal Flush: Bluebirds Ship and the T-Mobile Pivot

Anpanman

Anpanman hosts a solo update on a pivotal week for AST SpaceMobile. Two Block 2 BlueBird satellites have shipped toward Cape Canaveral, with a third following, ahead of a planned June 2026 Falcon 9 launch, and Abel Avellan gave a rare CNBC interview from New York City the same morning.

Anpanman argues the interview's comment that the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture will give AST 'access to every operator in the US' effectively confirms T-Mobile is joining AST's ecosystem. AST also pulled out of the B Rally investor conference and its one-on-ones, fueling speculation about what else may be happening in New York.

Anpanman closes the AST segment predicting a similar sweep in Europe via Deutsche Telekom potentially joining Satellite Connect Europe. He forecasts the stock breaking its intraday all-time high of roughly $129 in the coming weeks.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile has shipped its next batch of Block 2 BlueBird satellites (two en route to Cape Canaveral, a third following shortly), confirmed both by an AT&T-shared promotional clip and by Abel Avellan on CNBC, ahead of a planned June 2026 Falcon 9 launch.
  • Abel Avellan gave a rare CNBC interview (with Morgan Brennan) from New York City on the morning of May 18, 2026, where he said AST is supportive of the newly announced AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite joint venture and that it will give AST 'access to every operator in the US' — interpreted by Anpanman as strong signal that T-Mobile is joining AST's carrier partnerships alongside AT&T and Verizon.
  • AST SpaceMobile withdrew from the B Rally investor conference (scheduled May 20-21 on the West Coast) and canceled its one-on-one investor meetings there, which Anpanman flags as unusual and possibly tied to whatever Abel Avellan is doing in New York City.
  • Abel Avellan disclosed AST has access to about 100 MHz of low- and mid-band spectrum through its partners, and stated AST remains the only company able to deliver broadband cellular connectivity to unmodified phones using low-band spectrum.
  • Abel Avellan confirmed AST's launch cadence is moving to roughly monthly, starting with a launch in June 2026, one or two more in July, then monthly through December, targeting 45 satellites in orbit (including the 6 already up) by around year-end 2026.
  • Anpanman predicts Deutsche Telekom will join the Vodafone/AST 'Satellite Connect Europe' joint venture within the next month or two, and expects a coalition of major European carriers to help AST secure a piece of the EU's 2 GHz MSS spectrum allocation coming up for renewal.
  • Anpanman forecasts AST SpaceMobile stock will break its intraday all-time high of about $129 in the coming weeks, citing the convergence of the shipment news, the carrier JV, and expected disclosures from AT&T CEO John Stankey's JPMorgan conference keynote.

Detailed Discussion6 topics

BlueBird Shipment and Abel Avellan's New York Appearance

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Confirms with '100% certainty,' based on SpaceMob community due diligence, that the next batch of BlueBird satellites was shipped from Midland over the weekend before the episode — pushing back on bears who questioned whether shipment had actually occurred versus still being in progress.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:04:46

    Reads an official AT&T-shared video/PR stating 'The Bluebird convoy is officially underway. 2 Bluebirds are already making their way to Cape Canaveral, with a 3rd close behind... Built in Texas, broadband from space designed to connect directly to everyday phones,' noting the shipment happened 'yesterday' with a third satellite following shortly.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Abel Avellan, currently in New York City, gave a CNBC interview with reporter Morgan Brennan the morning of the episode disclosing the satellite shipment — notable because Avellan rarely makes public appearances (Anpanman recalls only a handful of times) and normally sends President Scott Wisniewski to investor conferences instead.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Notes that AT&T Chairman and CEO John Stankey is giving the keynote at the JPMorgan investor conference the next day and is expected to discuss the new AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture, and speculates that Abel Avellan being in New York at the same time as this conference, rather than in Midland, could indicate an important meeting or signing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    States he has confirmation that AST SpaceMobile pulled out of the B Rally investor conference (West Coast, scheduled for May 20-21) and canceled all its scheduled one-on-one investor meetings there, and floats as a hedge-fund-investor observation that when companies pull out of conferences it can sometimes (rarely) signal M&A activity, though he does not know what is actually happening.

AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile Joint Venture and T-Mobile's Role

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    In the CNBC interview, Abel Avellan said AST is supportive of the AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile joint venture and specifically stated it 'will give them access to every operator in the US' — Anpanman reads this as confirmation that T-Mobile is coming on board with AST, even though the carriers won't explicitly say AST is enabling the service for regulatory/antitrust reasons.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Says that in his own conversations with AST management, it sounds like — without being stated directly — T-Mobile is on board, giving AST access to the entire US carrier market (AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Recalls AST's existing exclusivity terms as roughly 3 years with AT&T (or possibly 4) and 2-3 years with Verizon, describing the specifics as uncertain from memory.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Guesses the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture will be structured similarly to 'Satellite Connect Europe' (the Vodafone/AST European JV), and attributes the idea for the JV to AT&T Chairman and CEO John Stankey specifically, noting Stankey chairs AT&T's board whereas the Verizon and T-Mobile CEOs do not chair their companies' boards, implying Stankey is driving the initiative.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Argues the carriers are motivated by fear of Starlink as a competitive threat, noting Starlink has acquired 60 MHz of spectrum and could next pursue scarce low-band spectrum; adds that former T-Mobile CEO Mike Sievert was a notable exception among carrier leadership in not viewing Starlink as a serious threat.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Explains that because Starlink operates as a separate network rather than being embedded in the MNO core like AST, Starlink can still compete for regulatory purposes by offering a separate eSIM-based service directly to consumers, though he calls this 'a very tough hill to climb.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Predicts T-Mobile will quietly move users away from Starlink by offering both as a menu of options — e.g., Starlink's narrowband texting versus a new AST-powered broadband 'T-satellite' service for around $15 — rather than dropping Starlink outright, to avoid antitrust scrutiny; suggests full Starlink displacement may only happen once AT&T's and Verizon's AST exclusivity periods end.

Spectrum Access and Competitive Positioning

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Reiterates Abel Avellan's CNBC statement that AST SpaceMobile is the only company that can provide broadband cellular connectivity to unmodified phones and the only one able to use low-band spectrum, contrasting this with emerging competing services (e.g., Starlink's planned V2 satellites) that focus on MSS/mid-band spectrum, which offers capacity but weaker coverage and propagation.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Says Abel Avellan disclosed AST has access to 100 MHz of spectrum through its partners (a mix of low-band and mid-band), and interprets the specificity of this number as evidence AST has now locked in which exact low-band spectrum it will use with key partners; separately estimates AST's total 'tunable' addressable spectrum across low- and mid-band globally could be as high as 1,100 MHz.

Launch Cadence and Satellite Count Guidance

3
  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    States that Abel Avellan confirmed on CNBC that the prior guidance of launching every 1-2 months (as an average over the year) is being replaced with a monthly launch cadence: a launch in June, one or two launches in July, then monthly launches from August through December — matching what Anpanman says management privately confirmed to him a few weeks earlier.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Notes the company's target is 45 satellites in orbit, which includes the 6 already up, meaning roughly 39 more are needed; says whether that target is hit by year-end 2026 or slips into January/February 2027 'kind of doesn't matter' for the bigger revenue picture, though execution timing still matters.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Says he plans to travel to Cape Canaveral in mid-June to watch the Falcon 9 launch of the newly shipped BlueBird batch in person.

European Expansion

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Relays a weekend conversation with 'Katzi' concluding Starlink faces a tough political climb in Europe given Elon Musk's unpopularity there.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Predicts Deutsche Telekom will join 'Satellite Connect Europe' (the Vodafone/AST joint venture) within the next month or two, citing the head of Satellite Connect Europe alluding to additional MNOs joining, and Deutsche Telekom's CEO (who controls T-Mobile) publicly stating distrust of Starlink/Elon Musk and openness to other satellite providers offering superior broadband in Europe.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Argues that if AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile give AST 100% of the US market and Deutsche Telekom, Vodafone, Orange, and Telefonica jointly back AST in Europe, it becomes very difficult for EU regulators to deny AST spectrum, predicting AST secures a 10x10 MHz allocation when the May 2027 EU 2 GHz MSS spectrum renewal comes up — calling this close to 'fait accompli.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Flags that Meredith Sharples, managing director and head of Satellite Connect Europe, is scheduled to speak at the ITW 2026 conference in Maryland the next day at 3:15pm, and wonders whether announcements could come out of that appearance.

Stock Price and Market Setup

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Notes AST stock bottomed around $63 roughly two weeks before the episode, after which he tweeted 'endless rally'; observes the stock consolidated from its January 2026 all-time high through May, and argues the setup into the rest of the year is strong given the week's catalysts.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Predicts the stock will break past its intraday all-time high of roughly $129 in the coming weeks, citing accumulating catalysts including the satellite shipment, the carrier joint venture, and John Stankey's upcoming keynote.

Watch Items6

  • AT&T CEO John Stankey's keynote at the JPMorgan investor conference, expected to touch on the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite joint venture

    tomorrow (day after the episode, i.e. ~May 19, 2026) Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Meredith Sharples (head of Satellite Connect Europe) speaking at ITW 2026 in Maryland, possible announcements

    tomorrow at 3:15pm Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Falcon 9 launch of the newly shipped BlueBird satellite batch from Cape Canaveral

    mid-June (Anpanman plans to attend in person) Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Possible Deutsche Telekom addition to the Vodafone/AST 'Satellite Connect Europe' joint venture

    within the next month or two (Anpanman's guess) Anpanman 00:00:27
  • EU 2 GHz MSS spectrum allocation renewal, where Anpanman expects AST to secure a 10x10 MHz allocation

    May 2027 Anpanman 00:00:27
  • AST stock potentially breaking its intraday all-time high of ~$129

    coming weeks (Anpanman's prediction) Anpanman 00:00:27

Open Questions4

  • What exactly is Abel Avellan doing in New York City, and does it relate to why AST withdrew from the B Rally conference and its one-on-one investor meetings?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will AST SpaceMobile PR the satellite shipment event itself, or wait to announce once the satellites arrive at Cape Canaveral?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • What will the actual structure of the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture look like, and will it mirror the Satellite Connect Europe model?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will AST hit its target of 45 satellites in orbit by end of 2026, or will it slip into January or February 2027?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
2026-05-18 5:37

Abel Avellan on CNBC

Abel Avellan · Unidentified guest

This episode is a CNBC television interview with AST SpaceMobile Chairman and CEO Abel Avellan, aired the morning of May 18, 2026.

An unidentified CNBC anchor questions Avellan about the newly announced AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite joint venture, AST's 2026 satellite deployment plans following the New Glenn launch failure, competition from Starlink and Amazon/Kuiper-Globalstar, AST's spectrum position, and the SpaceX IPO.

The headline conclusion is that Avellan frames the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture as validation and expansion of AST's business ("now every American can get our service").

He reaffirms AST is "on target" for 45 satellites this year despite the recent launch failure, and asserts AST's combined spectrum and large-satellite technology position is unmatched by competitors.

Key Takeaways

  • Abel Avellan called the newly announced AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite joint venture "great news," describing it as an effort to make direct-to-device connectivity standard and available in every phone for every US carrier, with AST positioned as a "key enabler" now giving it access to every operator in the United States.
  • Avellan reaffirmed AST's 2026 target of 45 satellites, stating the company is 'on target,' is currently shipping the next batch of satellites to the launch pad, and expects launches approximately every month using multiple launch providers including SpaceX — this despite the recent Blue Origin New Glenn launch that failed to deploy an AST satellite into its correct position.
  • Avellan claimed AST is the only satellite broadband system technologically capable of delivering hundreds of megabits per second directly to an unmodified device, citing AST's invention of the first satellite voice call, first 5G satellite connection, and first satellite broadband connection, plus a recent demonstration of close to 100 Mbps from space directly to a regular phone.
  • On spectrum, Avellan said AST owns over 45 MHz of spectrum in North America (a reference to its Ligado L-band deal), holds priority rights to roughly 60 MHz outside North America, and separately has access to partner (MNO) IMT spectrum where some partners can allocate close to 100 MHz to AST's network — a combined position he said nobody else in the industry has.
  • Avellan holds over 3,800 patents and patent-pending claims related to large phased-array satellite technology, which he argues is the physics-driven reason large satellites (not small ones) are required to receive low-power signals from ordinary phones.
  • Discussing competition from Starlink's direct-to-cell service and Amazon's Kuiper (via its acquisition of Globalstar), Avellan framed satellite broadband as a market expansion of the wireless ecosystem rather than a replacement for terrestrial networks, and said AST partners with over 50 mobile operators.
  • Asked about the SpaceX IPO, Avellan called it a "game changer" for the space sector that creates a new investable category, provides valuation visibility for recurring connectivity revenue, and validates space-based connectivity as a growth market rather than a threat to AST.

Detailed Discussion5 topics

AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile Joint Venture and AST's Role

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  • Speaker A Untagged 00:00:00

    Asked Avellan how AST will play into the newly announced joint venture between the largest US telecom providers to add space-enabled connectivity.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:00:10

    Described the joint venture as an effort to make direct-to-device connectivity available to every American in a standardized way, available in every device for every carrier, calling it "great news" and saying "now every American can get our service."

  • Speaker A Untagged 00:00:27

    Asked for more details on the specific relationship and the role AST will play in the joint venture.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:00:30

    Did not give specific commercial terms, but said AST is the only broadband system with the technology to deliver hundreds of megabits per second directly to any device, calling AST "a key enabler" for the joint venture given it invented the first satellite voice call, first 5G satellite connection, and first satellite broadband connection.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:00:30

    Said that "just a few weeks back" AST demonstrated close to 100 megabits per second from space directly to a regular phone.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:04:55

    Said AST now has access to every operator in the United States as a result of the joint venture, and that the company already has partnerships with over 50 operators globally.

2026 Satellite Deployment Guidance and New Glenn Launch Failure

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  • Speaker A Untagged 00:01:19

    Noted AST recently released earnings and maintained full-year revenue guidance, but said investors are focused on how quickly AST can build and deploy its BlueBird satellites; referenced the recent Blue Origin New Glenn rocket launch that ultimately failed to deploy AST's satellites into their correct positions, and asked whether AST's target of 45 satellites for the year still stands.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:01:49

    Confirmed the 45-satellite target for the year still stands, saying AST is "on target today," is currently shipping the next batch of satellites to the launch pad, and expects launches approximately every month using multiple launch-provider partners, including SpaceX.

Competitive Landscape: Starlink and Amazon/Kuiper-Globalstar

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  • Speaker A Untagged 00:02:16

    Described seeing Starlink connectivity working in remote parts of Alaska above the Arctic Circle with no roads or running water, and asked how Avellan views the competitive landscape given Starlink's push into direct-to-device and Amazon's Kuiper LEO constellation acquiring Globalstar.

  • Abel Avellan Speculation 00:02:38

    Argued the industry transformation is about speed and capacity to the phone, not just coverage in remote areas — framing it as broadband connectivity mattering even in everyday scenarios like a drive, not just "the middle of nowhere."

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:02:38

    Said achieving hundreds of megabits per second to any unmodified device requires spectrum and, critically, large satellites, because large arrays are needed physically to receive the very low power signal emitted by a small handheld device — citing AST's portfolio of over 3,800 patents and patent-pending claims covering this approach.

Spectrum Position

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  • Speaker A Speculation 00:03:43

    Argued spectrum may be an even more prized commodity than energy going forward, given the connectivity needs of the AI revolution.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:03:59

    Agreed, saying AST made a large investment/bet on spectrum: it owns over 45 megahertz of spectrum in North America, holds priority rights to roughly 60 megahertz of spectrum outside North America, and separately has access to partner MNOs' existing IMT spectrum already resident on phones — with some partners able to allocate close to 100 megahertz to AST's network.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:03:59

    Said that combining AST's own spectrum with access to low-band, mid-band, and future MSS spectrum through partners gives AST more available spectrum than any competitor, calling this the foundation of its large-satellite broadband strategy.

SpaceX IPO

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  • Speaker A Untagged 00:04:52

    Asked whether a SpaceX IPO would be a game changer for the sector overall.

  • Abel Avellan Speculation 00:04:55

    Called a SpaceX IPO a game changer that creates a new investable category and provides valuation visibility for recurring connectivity revenue from space, characterizing it as market expansion for the wireless ecosystem rather than a replacement of it.

Watch Items2

  • 45 BlueBird satellites planned to launch in 2026, with Avellan saying AST is 'on target,' shipping the next batch to the launch pad, and expecting launches approximately every month via multiple providers including SpaceX

    During 2026 (full year) Abel Avellan 00:01:49
  • Specific commercial role/terms AST will play within the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite connectivity joint venture

    Not yet detailed as of this interview Abel Avellan 00:00:30

Open Questions2

  • What specific commercial role and terms will AST have within the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture, beyond being described as a 'key enabler'?

    Speaker A 00:00:27
  • How will AST's satellite deployment cadence and technology differentiate against Starlink's direct-to-device push and Amazon's Kuiper (via its Globalstar acquisition) over the longer term?

    Speaker A 00:02:16
2026-05-18 37:05

Scott Wisniewski at JP Morgan conference

Scott Wisniewski · Sebastian Petty

This episode is a rebroadcast of a JPMorgan conference fireside chat, not a standard SpaceMob episode with Anpanman or Kook. JPMorgan telecom/cable/satellite analyst Sebastian Petty interviews AST SpaceMobile President and Chief Strategy Officer Scott Wisniewski.

Wisniewski frames mid-2026 as the company's pivot from an R&D/manufacturing story to a scaled revenue-generating operator. He covers the new AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite JV, the path to 45+ satellites in orbit by year-end 2026, spectrum strategy, the US government/Golden Dome pipeline, and the balance sheet.

The headline conclusion: AST reiterates $150-200M 2026 revenue guidance and a roughly $1 billion 2027 revenue opportunity (split about 50/50 between commercial and government).

AST says it will reach free-cash-flow breakeven well before hitting that $1 billion figure, and does not view the new carrier JV as a threat to its carrier-neutral, spectrum-backed moat.

Key Takeaways

  • Scott Wisniewski, AST SpaceMobile's President and Chief Strategy Officer, says the company has shifted from an R&D/manufacturing story to focus on two priorities: network deployment for revenue in 2026-2027 and beyond, and building out the direct-to-device market with partners.
  • AST SpaceMobile is targeting approximately 45 satellites in orbit by year-end 2026, which Wisniewski says is enough to reach full commercial service in initial markets including the US.
  • The next launch, carrying BlueBird 8, 9, and 10 on a SpaceX Falcon 9, is expected in mid-June 2026, about a 60-day turnaround after the loss of BlueBird 7 on a New Glenn launch the prior month.
  • Wisniewski describes AST's stance on the newly announced AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile satellite joint venture as supportive, saying it validates and accelerates the US direct-to-device market and mirrors how AT&T and Verizon were brought together on AST's network two years earlier; he does not believe it threatens AST's moat since AST has always intended to be carrier-neutral.
  • AST now has partnerships with nearly 60 mobile network operators globally, representing approximately 3 billion subscribers, with strategic investors (AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone, Google, American Tower, Bell Canada, TELUS, Rakuten) making up about 15% of AST's cap table.
  • AST reiterated 2026 revenue guidance of $150 million to $200 million, with Q1 2026 revenue coming in just shy of $15 million; Wisniewski calls this 'practice revenue' ahead of commercial service activation, and says more than half of the remaining 2026 guidance is already in the contracted backlog.
  • For 2027, Wisniewski describes a roughly $1 billion revenue opportunity split about half-and-half between US government and commercial business, with either segment able to significantly outperform, and says the company has $1.2 billion of cumulative long-term minimum (take-or-pay style) revenue commitments from operators.
  • AST ended Q1 2026 with approximately $3.5 billion in cash, says it is fully funded for over 100 satellites, and has no plans for additional convertible debt; Wisniewski expects the company to be free-cash-flow positive well before reaching $1 billion in revenue.
  • AST holds an 80-year lease for 45 MHz of L-band spectrum in the US and Canada and 60 MHz of S-band priority rights outside North America, layered on roughly 1,100 MHz of shared low- and mid-band spectrum accessed through MNO partners; FCC approval of the L-band lease is the last outstanding regulatory step, which Wisniewski says FCC Chairman Carr referenced favorably on CNBC the same day.
  • On the government side, AST describes 'Golden Dome' and Space Force opportunities (including non-communications uses like radar) as a major growth vector, citing a Space Force budget that 'just doubled to about $70 billion' currently in front of Congress, though it says only about three government contracts of meaningful size exist so far versus roughly ten use cases being pursued.
  • AST's Vodafone joint venture for Europe (SatCo), formed about a year before the episode, has grown to about 20 staff and signed up around 10 additional operator partners at Mobile World Congress roughly two months before the episode.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Company strategy and priorities

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  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:01:22

    AST SpaceMobile was founded about a decade ago around the direct-to-device opportunity; Wisniewski met founder Abel Avellan in January 2019. For years, investors' three core questions were: does it work, can you fund it, and how big will the market be. He says the company retired those risks in 2023, 2024, and 2025.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:01:22

    As of mid-2026, the company's two highest priorities are (1) network deployment, with most of the company focused on deployment for revenue in 2026, 2027, and beyond, and (2) building out the direct-to-device market in partnership with mobile network operators for the mass consumer market and other markets.

AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture and competitive moat

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  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:03:12

    Asked Wisniewski to unpack the news that AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile announced a proposed joint venture to extend mobile connectivity using satellite-based direct-to-device technologies, and what it means for AST's commercial positioning.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:03:41

    AST has organized its business, technology, and go-to-market strategy around making connectivity better for mobile network operators, including designing its network stack so operators control the RAN on the ground. This approach has led to partnerships with nearly 60 operators globally representing approximately 3 billion subscribers, with about 15% of AST's cap table held by strategic investors including AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone, Google, American Tower, Bell Canada, TELUS (Canada), and Rakuten (Japan).

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:03:41

    AST brought Verizon into its US network alongside AT&T about two years prior (i.e., ~2024), and views the new AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile JV in the same vein — a way operators organize around a strategic growth opportunity. AST is supportive of the JV and sees it as expanding the US market further.

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:05:37

    AST's strategy has always been to be carrier-neutral, despite having developed some early exclusivities with early investors; the new JV just means that neutrality dynamic is playing out sooner than expected in the US, which he views as a good thing.

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:05:37

    Wisniewski argues the JV does not diminish AST's moat: AST expects to be the second LEO constellation operator ever to reach commercial scale without going bankrupt, has developed the largest satellites ever deployed in low Earth orbit, holds backing spectrum, and has first-mover advantage and existing partnerships. He expects a healthy, growth-oriented market over the next 5 to 10 years with AST in a leadership role.

  • Sebastian Petty Confirmed 00:06:56

    Noted that FCC Chairman Carr put out a statement the same day about three scale direct-to-device providers, and asked whether Amazon's announced agreement to purchase Globalstar has changed the tone of AST's conversations with carriers.

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:07:14

    Wisniewski says the tone hasn't changed — conversations with network operators globally have increased in depth and breadth every month since he joined, and AST is partnered with nearly every major operator outside China and Russia. He acknowledges large, well-capitalized competitors could pursue the opportunity, but says AST feels well-capitalized and positioned as the partner of choice with the largest phased arrays ever deployed in LEO.

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:30:22

    Asked whether the JV helps device proliferation in the US ecosystem, Wisniewski says AST is 'already on that track' since device manufacturers and MNO partners already want to enable these frequencies; the JV mainly formalizes things AST was already helping enable, such as device availability and spectrum pooling — a key rationale for bringing AT&T and Verizon together on AST's network two years earlier.

Satellite deployment and launch cadence

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  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:08:29

    Noted AST is targeting approximately 45 satellites in orbit by year-end 2026 via a combination of Blue Origin and SpaceX, with the next launch (BlueBird 8, 9, and 10 on Falcon 9) expected in mid-June, and asked how many more launches are needed and what margin of error exists if Blue Origin's return to the pad slips, given New Glenn remains grounded following the BlueBird 7 upper-stage anomaly.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:09:05

    The 45+ satellites-in-orbit guidance is meant to get AST to full commercial service in initial priority markets (the US and a few others); this target was reiterated even after the loss of the one satellite (BlueBird 7) on the prior New Glenn launch.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:09:05

    AST currently has production through Satellite 33 at its factory and shipped two more satellites to Cape Canaveral the day before the interview. AST expects to be back at the launch pad with SpaceX in about a 30-60 day turnaround (next month) after last month's satellite loss, needing roughly a handful of Blue Origin rockets (which carry 2-3x more satellites per launch) and a handful of Falcon 9 launches to hit the 45-satellite target.

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:09:05

    If the launch timeline slips a month or two or three, Wisniewski says that does not materially impact the company's NPV, though it matters to customers and to AST because 'time is money'; he expresses confidence given the vertically integrated, multi-launch-provider strategy.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:11:03

    AST has relationships with all major heavy launch providers globally, with signed contracts with Blue Origin and SpaceX, a recent ISRO launch, and other agreements referenced on public analyst calls that are in the works without firm launch dates yet. AST expects to be back at the pad with SpaceX in about 30 days and is optimistic about Blue Origin's return to the pad soon.

  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:14:00

    Asked about the timeline to reach 'fully stacked' launch capacity, noting the next New Glenn launch will carry 4 satellites, ramping toward 8.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:14:27

    AST expects to reach fully stacked capacity over the course of 2026. Its 'tuna can' satellite design is flexible across launch vehicles: 3 satellites fit on a Falcon 9, 4 growing to 8 on New Glenn, 5 on Vulcan, 2 on ISRO, 3 on Mitsubishi Heavy Industries rockets, and 5 on an Ariane 6.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:14:27

    Blue Origin has now successfully landed 2 boosters, going 2-for-3 on its New Glenn launches (the last two landings succeeding), which Wisniewski calls an incredible feat that should support a more rapid launch cadence into the end of 2026 and into 2027.

Manufacturing

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  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:11:56

    Noted AST has disclosed phased arrays through BlueBird 28 and advanced assembly through BlueBird 33, and asked whether, at roughly 6 fully assembled satellites per month, manufacturing is now the 'easy part,' or whether yield testing and composite structure challenges could still create quarter-to-quarter variability.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:12:23

    AST recently opened another approximately 100,000 square foot dedicated payload facility in Midland (about a mile from the main site) that manufactures 'Microns,' the active payload on AST's satellites. Production yield has improved but still has room to grow; manufacturing has matured significantly over the last 18 months.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:12:23

    Wisniewski says manufacturing is not 'easy' but AST is 'getting it right,' pointing to 7 satellites successfully deployed (unfolded) in low Earth orbit so far — a 7-for-7 track record — as the largest satellites ever deployed in LEO for commercial use.

Commercial ecosystem and MNO partnerships

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  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:15:44

    Asked whether the tenor of conversations with operators has changed now that AST has FCC authorizations, a fully funded balance sheet, and has demonstrated 100 megabits per second from orbit.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:16:14

    AST can deploy a 'digital tower' anywhere in an operator's network, in any frequency, and up to 4 simultaneously, enabling network planning for unused spectrum. AST has de-risked via capital, spectrum, technology speed, a partner-first approach, and regulatory progress, including flagging its US network a couple of years ago as the FCC warmed to direct-to-device.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:16:14

    AST received its full commercial authorization from the FCC 'a couple weeks' before the interview, and FCC Chairman Carr spoke favorably about AST on CNBC the same day as the interview.

  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:18:01

    Asked what is driving accelerating MNO agreement signings expected with 'increasing velocity' through 2026, and whether new agreements are coming from existing MOUs among AST's 50+ partners or entirely new relationships.

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:18:36

    AST has a large funnel of partnership opportunities, including some companies without formal partnerships yet that AST hopes to bring on in coming months and quarters. AST has invested in its commercial and telecom operations teams over the last 12-18 months, and momentum is increasing as commercial service nears and MNOs plan their 2027 budget cycles.

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:20:13

    Wisniewski contrasts AST's 'broadband first, broadband only' strategy (targeting 100 megabits per second to a phone) against existing text/emergency-only direct-to-device offerings from competitors, calling the difference 'not apples and oranges, it's apples and aircraft carriers.'

Revenue trajectory and financial guidance

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  • Sebastian Petty Confirmed 00:20:46

    Noted AST reiterated 2026 revenue guidance of $150 million to $200 million, with Q1 2026 revenue coming in just shy of $15 million, and asked how much of the roughly $1 billion 2027 revenue opportunity is underpinned by existing contracts and minimum commitments versus commercial service activation and subscriber uptake.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:21:18

    AST now has both a commercial (consumer) revenue story and a US government revenue story, expecting revenue over the next 1 to 3 years to be roughly half government and half commercial, with either segment able to significantly outperform.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:21:18

    AST hit the high end of its revenue guidance last year and describes this year's $150-200 million guidance as 'practice revenue' — not yet service revenue — covering about 10 government use cases (with only about 3 contracts of meaningful size so far) plus commercial network/ground-infrastructure deployment work. AST expects to grow quarterly sequentially into the $150-200 million guidance during 2026, all of it pre-commercial-service revenue.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:21:18

    More than half of the remaining 2026 revenue guidance is already contracted in the backlog, with the rest covered several times over by AST's pipeline. For 2027, AST has signed several take-or-pay style long-term minimum revenue commitments totaling $1.2 billion cumulatively — likely a small portion of the overall revenue opportunity over the next couple of years, but demonstrating operator commitment; this revenue is realized as a minimum once the network is in orbit.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:24:15

    The quoted contract backlog spans agreements of varying length — 2-year, 5-year, 6-year, and one 10-year agreement — applied pro rata across those terms, contributing 'over $100 million' per year out of the gate for sure.

US government pipeline and Golden Dome

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  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:24:39

    Asked where AST is in the government contracting cycle — still primarily development/testing, or approaching an inflection into programs of record with multi-year recurring revenue — noting use cases spanning tactical communications and non-communications capabilities plus Halo Europa, described with billions in aggregate annual revenue potential.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:25:16

    AST is doing in-orbit testing today for multiple revenue-producing US government opportunities. Government contracts typically progress through phase 1, phase 2, and phase 3 stages before reaching a 'program of record' — a 5-to-10-year commitment with a sizable annual revenue opportunity. AST is chasing roughly 10 use cases spanning communications and non-communications applications, including radar, enabled by having the largest phased arrays ever deployed in LEO; AST's network is dual-use (commercial satellites can support government applications) and AST can also build government-only modified satellites.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:25:16

    Wisniewski cites the biggest spending on space since the 1960s as backdrop, noting the Space Force budget 'just doubled to about $70 billion' in a proposal currently in front of Congress, and describes pressure within the current administration to deliver a Golden Dome capability quickly — something that required starting development roughly 5 years ago, which AST did.

Spectrum strategy

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  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:27:13

    Asked about the activation timeline for AST's controlled spectrum — 45 MHz of L-band in North America and 60 MHz of S-band priority rights outside North America, layered on top of roughly 1,100 MHz of MNO shared spectrum globally — including what regulatory approvals remain and what capital is required to bring these bands live commercially.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:27:40

    Activating a new spectrum band in the US could generally cost $5 to $10 billion in ground equipment, but AST's marginal cost is relatively low because it was building satellites anyway. AST secured its L-band deal (an 80-year lease for 45 MHz, the majority of available L-band in the US) about a year and a half before this interview, moving before the direct-to-device market got eager to acquire those bands — an anchor position Wisniewski likens to SpaceX's acquisition from EchoStar.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:28:33

    The last remaining step for the L-band deal is FCC regulatory approval; Wisniewski notes FCC Chairman Carr said on CNBC the same day that 'AT&T, AST already has their spectrum,' referencing that the L-band acquisition is in his hands for approval.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:28:33

    These spectrum bands are in some phones today but are expected to get into most new phones in a big way starting in 2027, with roughly a couple-year lifecycle after that for full market penetration; AST expects to deploy network using this spectrum in 2027 and beyond.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:28:33

    AST's core strategy from inception was to partner with operators for a revenue share on their existing spectrum since it couldn't afford to buy spectrum outright when it started; today AST has access to roughly 1,100 MHz of low- and mid-band frequencies across its satellite network via such revenue-share partnerships.

  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:31:01

    Asked whether investors should expect AST to remain opportunistic about acquiring additional spectrum assets (L-band, S-band, or otherwise).

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:31:14

    AST likes its current spectrum position and will continue to pursue S-band opportunistically country by country; L-band is heavily utilized globally, which is why the unused US/Canada piece was valuable. In Europe, allocated S-band spectrum hasn't been well used and its license is coming up; AST's partner in Saudi Arabia (stc) purchased S-band spectrum itself, which AST hopes to enable in the near future. Wisniewski says investors should not expect any expensive spectrum acquisitions — AST's approach is primarily to partner.

  • Sebastian Petty Untagged 00:32:15

    Asked for an update on the European S-band opportunity tied to the Vodafone joint venture, Satellite Connect Europe (SatCo).

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:32:26

    Vodafone is one of AST's biggest partners and earliest investors, having invested three times and now holding over $1 billion of AST stock; AST and Vodafone have a 5-year mutual exclusivity in Europe and Africa. The SatCo joint venture, formed about a year before this interview, pools ground infrastructure build-out, manages the EU's closed-border complexities, and pursues spectrum allocations; it has grown to about 20 staff and is European-operated, with a board of 2 AST and 2 Vodafone representatives (Wisniewski included). At Mobile World Congress about two months before this interview, SatCo signed up roughly 10 additional partners under development.

Balance sheet and path to profitability

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  • Sebastian Petty Confirmed 00:33:36

    Noted AST ended Q1 2026 with approximately $3.5 billion in cash, is fully funded for over 100 satellites, and has no plans for additional convertible debt, and asked about the glide path to free-cash-flow breakeven and whether that requires reaching the $1 billion 2027 revenue target.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:34:03

    AST's operating model is attractive once at scale: satellites are refreshed on a roughly 7-to-10-year cycle, becoming a maintenance-capex business with most spending upfront, and functioning satellite wholesale businesses historically see margins in excess of 80% on EBITDA. AST's fixed cost base is roughly $300 to $400 million of opex per year.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:34:03

    Wisniewski says the $1 billion 2027 revenue figure is not tied to any need for free-cash-flow breakeven; AST expects to be free-cash-flow positive well before reaching $1 billion in revenue.

Watch Items10

  • 45+ satellites in orbit, intended to enable full commercial service in initial priority markets (US and a few others)

    by year-end 2026 Scott Wisniewski 00:09:05
  • Next launch carrying BlueBird 8, 9, and 10 on a SpaceX Falcon 9

    mid-June 2026 (~60-day turnaround after the BlueBird 7 loss) Scott Wisniewski 00:09:05
  • Blue Origin New Glenn return to the launch pad after the BlueBird 7 upper-stage anomaly

    expected soon (unspecified date) Scott Wisniewski 00:11:03
  • New Glenn satellite capacity per launch ramping from 4 to 8 BlueBirds ('fully stacked' capacity)

    over the course of 2026 Scott Wisniewski 00:14:27
  • FCC approval of AST's 80-year, 45 MHz L-band spectrum lease (already referenced favorably by Chairman Carr)

    pending, unspecified date Scott Wisniewski 00:28:33
  • L-band/S-band spectrum bands entering most new phones 'in a big way'

    starting 2027 Scott Wisniewski 00:28:33
  • 2026 revenue guidance of $150-200 million, expected to grow sequentially each quarter

    full year 2026 Scott Wisniewski 00:21:18
  • 2027 revenue opportunity approaching $1 billion, roughly split between government and commercial

    2027 Scott Wisniewski 00:21:18
  • Space Force budget proposal (roughly $70 billion, described as doubled) currently before Congress, relevant to Golden Dome-related opportunities

    pending Congressional action, unspecified date Scott Wisniewski 00:25:16
  • European S-band spectrum license renewal/allocation in Europe

    license 'coming up,' unspecified date Scott Wisniewski 00:31:14

Open Questions4

  • If Blue Origin's New Glenn return to the pad slips further, exactly how many additional Falcon 9 (or other) launches would AST need to still hit the 45-satellite year-end 2026 target?

    Sebastian Petty 00:08:29
  • Precisely how much of the roughly $1 billion 2027 revenue opportunity depends on commercial subscriber uptake and service activation versus contracts/minimum commitments already in place, beyond the general 'about half government, half commercial' framing?

    Sebastian Petty 00:20:46
  • What is the specific capital requirement for AST itself (as opposed to the general industry cost of $5-10 billion to activate a new US spectrum band) to bring its own controlled L-band and S-band spectrum fully live commercially?

    Sebastian Petty 00:27:13
  • How much flexibility does AST have with Vulcan as a launch vehicle, and can it absorb more of AST's satellite launch capacity over time?

    Sebastian Petty 00:10:46
2026-05-15 45:18

Anpanman - The Great Carrier Realignment

Anpanman

Anpanman breaks down the AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile joint venture announced on May 15, 2026 to pool spectrum and resources for direct-to-device service.

He argues it is fundamentally a defensive alignment around AST SpaceMobile against Starlink, rather than a Starlink negotiating tactic as some analysts claimed.

He ties the JV's timing to a new FCC precedent (via the SpaceX/EchoStar spectrum approval) letting carriers meet terrestrial spectrum build-out requirements via satellite instead of towers. That, he says, turns AST into a CapEx-saving, spectrum-value-boosting asset for carriers.

His headline conclusion: this effectively locks up 100% of the US MNO market for AST, and the stock is mispriced (should be well north of $100, potentially $130 if AST had been named explicitly). And a cluster of near-term catalysts — Blue Origin FAA re-approval, batch shipments, launches, a possible T-Mobile-AST deal — should force a market rerating.

Key Takeaways

  • On May 15, 2026, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile announced a joint venture to pool resources, including spectrum, to provide direct-to-device satellite service to consumers; the deal is an agreement in principle pending a definitive agreement and DOJ/FCC approval.
  • Anpanman argues the joint venture is legally barred from setting prices for satellite providers like AST SpaceMobile, since price-fixing by a carrier consortium would be anti-competitive/illegal.
  • The press release was drafted and issued by AT&T (with quotes from Verizon and T-Mobile), a pattern Anpanman compares to the Vodafone-AST SatCo joint venture announcement; AST SpaceMobile issued its own supportive press release at the same time, which Anpanman says proves coordination even though AST wasn't explicitly named (to avoid appearing anti-competitive to regulators).
  • Anpanman disputes analyst Tim Farrar's public claim that the JV is really about pressuring Starlink in a negotiation, calling it factually backwards; he says his own conversations with AST management confirmed the company knew the JV was coming and that T-Mobile specifically asked to join the AST-aligned service.
  • A recent FCC decision tied to SpaceX's approval to acquire EchoStar spectrum allows, for the first time, terrestrial spectrum build-out requirements to be satisfied using satellite coverage instead of physical cell towers in less-dense areas, which Anpanman says is a watershed regulatory shift benefiting AST.
  • Anpanman frames AST as a 'CapEx-saving machine' for carriers: satellite build-out avoids costly tower construction/decommissioning (cited at $100,000-$200,000/year to operate a tower) and increases the effective value and margin of carrier spectrum holdings.
  • AST SpaceMobile is described as the only satellite provider currently capable of true mobile broadband (as opposed to SOS/texting-only service from Starlink and Globalstar), because it uses large phased-array satellites on low-band cellular spectrum rather than small-array MSS/mid-band systems.
  • T-Mobile's current Starlink/T-Satellite exclusivity is said to end around June/July 2026, which Anpanman ties directly to the timing of this JV announcement and to speculation that T-Mobile will formally partner with AST soon after.
  • Anpanman relays that Scott Wisniewski told investors (at a Deutsche Bank event) that carriers beating up AST on price doesn't serve their interest, since satellite connectivity is a growth/TAM driver for MNOs rather than a cost-cutting exercise.
  • Anpanman estimates (not confirmed by the company) that AST's US exclusivity windows are roughly 3 years for AT&T and roughly 2-3 years for Verizon once commercial service launches, meaning existing carrier agreements stay in place even as the new JV is formed.
  • Anpanman expects a wave of near-term catalysts: Blue Origin's FAA approval for New Glenn returning soon, the first Bluebird batch shipping within days and launching around mid-June 2026, a second batch enabling a July launch (possibly two launches that month), and a company target of reaching 45 satellites by the end of 2026.
  • Relaying Scott Wisniewski's comments from the Deutsche Bank conference, Anpanman says the prior guidance of 'one launch every 1-2 months' should be considered outdated, with the company now targeting roughly monthly launches and potentially two per month by year-end.

Detailed Discussion12 topics

The AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture announcement

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile announced a joint venture today (May 15, 2026) to pool resources, including spectrum, to provide a better direct-to-device service to consumers; they have an agreement in principle but haven't finalized the definitive agreement, and it will be subject to DOJ and FCC approval.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The joint venture's framing is deliberately open-ended (not excluding any satellite provider) so it doesn't appear anti-competitive to regulators, but one thing it explicitly cannot do is set prices for satellite providers like AST, since that would be illegal collusion.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    The press release was written and issued by AT&T, with quotes from Verizon and T-Mobile, similar in pattern to how the Vodafone/AST SatCo joint venture was announced; AT&T is described as the 'quarterback' with Verizon and T-Mobile as junior partners, and AT&T is the one leading network integration and deployment.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile issued its own press release simultaneously with the carriers' announcement, which Anpanman says unequivocally shows coordination even though AST was not explicitly named in the carriers' release (a deliberate choice to satisfy regulators that the JV isn't excluding other providers).

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:04:51

    Anpanman says he was told by AST management, and this was confirmed at a Deutsche Bank investor call, that T-Mobile specifically wanted to join and become part of this service.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:06

    The press release states that all existing carrier agreements with satellite operators will hold in place, meaning the JV doesn't override AST's existing exclusivity arrangements with AT&T and Verizon.

Rebutting the 'this is about Starlink negotiation' theory

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    Analyst Tim Farrar tweeted that the JV 'is clearly designed to present a united front in any negotiation to make use of Starlink's next generation system'; Anpanman calls this backwards and says Farrar has not spoken to the carriers or to AST, unlike Anpanman who spoke with AST management directly.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:06

    Anpanman notes no press release has come from Starlink, Globalstar, Viasat, or Equatus in the hours since the JV announcement, which he argues proves those companies were not part of the coordination and only AST was — reinforcing that the JV is aligned with AST, not Starlink.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:34:40

    Anpanman continues to rebut Tim Farrar's follow-up claims (e.g., that the JV timing was dictated by AT&T waiting on EchoStar approval, or that T-Mobile's move is purely about Starlink's pricing demands being too high), saying Farrar is speculating without any primary sources while Anpanman says he has direct/primary confirmation that T-Mobile is defecting from Starlink.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:06

    Anpanman contrasts AST's deep network integration (seamless tower-to-satellite handoff within the carrier's own network core) with Starlink's current T-Mobile arrangement, which operates as a separate roaming network via an eSIM handoff, arguing this technical difference is why AST becomes hard to displace once integrated.

FCC regulatory shift on spectrum build-out requirements

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman says Elon Musk/SpaceX recently got approval to buy EchoStar spectrum, and as part of that approval the FCC ruled that terrestrial spectrum build-out requirements can now be met via satellite connectivity rather than only physical towers — the first time this has happened in the wireless industry's history.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman recounts that Charlie Ergen/EchoStar previously lost spectrum to the FCC because he couldn't meet build-out deadlines and had to sell to SpaceX, and argues Ergen could have avoided that outcome had he partnered with AST to light up the spectrum via satellite the way the new rules now allow.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues this regulatory shift means carriers like AT&T could ask the FCC to ease coverage build-out requirements for spectrum (e.g., 600 MHz bought from EchoStar) by using AST satellite service instead of constructing new towers.

Economics: AST as a CapEx-saving, spectrum-value-boosting asset

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues satellite build-out lets carriers avoid the cost of constructing and operating physical towers (citing $100,000 to $200,000 per year to operate a tower) in low-population areas, turning AST into a 'CapEx-saving machine.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Using a hypothetical (his own illustrative math, not company figures), Anpanman argues that if satellite deployment increases the revenue extracted per unit of spectrum while lowering the cost to deploy it, the implied value of that spectrum rises accordingly (e.g., from $10 to $15 in his example) because carrier profit margins improve.

Technical differentiation: broadband vs. SOS/messaging competitors

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:51

    Anpanman says AST SpaceMobile is the only satellite provider today delivering true mobile broadband, using low-band cellular spectrum and large phased-array satellites, whereas Starlink and Globalstar are MSS/mid-band providers focused on SOS messaging and texting rather than broadband.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:06

    Anpanman notes Starlink take approximately 80 cents of every dollar T-Mobile charges customers for T-Satellite service, leaving T-Mobile only about 20 cents, which he says explains the weak reported economics of that service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:51

    Anpanman cites an Amazon commercial showing a camper using AI to diagnose a skin rash via a connected phone in a remote location, arguing that use case (and others like remote medical diagnostics, professional Zoom calls, and FaceTime) requires true broadband connectivity that only AST can currently deliver.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes that competitors like Lynk and even Starlink initially tried small-satellite/small-phased-array architectures but are moving toward larger phased arrays because larger arrays make more efficient use of spectrum and deliver a cleaner signal to phones; Lynk in particular is described as struggling and not architecturally scalable.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:06

    Anpanman states current AST capability is around 100 megabits per second on the previous generation satellites, with 200 megabits per second on the new generation, and that with MIMO plus mid-band and C-band spectrum, throughput could eventually exceed 1 gigabit.

Starlink IPO and T-Mobile's shifting exclusivity

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:13:06

    Anpanman notes Starlink is reportedly on an IPO roadshow, informally already underway and set to kick off in full swing, with the deal expected to price in June 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:06

    Anpanman says T-Mobile's exclusivity arrangement with SpaceX/Starlink ends around June/July 2026, and argues the JV timing and T-Mobile's softened public language toward AST are directly tied to that expiring exclusivity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:06

    Anpanman speculates T-Mobile will publicly frame any shift as 'expanding T-Satellite to include AST SpaceMobile service' rather than abruptly dropping Starlink, since it can't leave customers without coverage when exclusivity lapses.

Pricing dynamics and Scott Wisniewski's investor comments

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:06

    Anpanman relays that an investor asked Scott Wisniewski whether having all three major carriers working with AST could let them collectively pressure AST on price; Scott's response was that this is a growth driver for the carriers and that beating up AST on price isn't in their interest since carrier revenue growth depends on AST's growth.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:06

    Anpanman estimates (his own assumption, not officially disclosed) that AST's exclusivity is roughly 3 years for AT&T and roughly 2-3 years for Verizon once commercial service launches, meaning if service launches around 2027, exclusivity could run to about 2029-2030.

Regulatory approval path (DOJ/FCC)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman expects the joint venture will be pitched to FCC Chairman Carr as pro-consumer (aiming for a full seamless broadband experience) and to the DOJ as pro-competitive (creating a fourth credible competitor via Starlink Mobile), making approval likely, though he floats a possible extreme scenario where regulators could require carriers to let customers choose their satellite provider (an 'Internet Explorer bundling' analogy).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman guesses the JV has probably been socialized with the FCC at a high level already, but expects the formal review process (once a definitive agreement is signed) to be lengthy.

Market reaction and stock valuation

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman says he was buying aggressively when the stock dipped to around $74-75 on the day of the announcement, believing the market failed to immediately grasp the significance of the JV since AST wasn't explicitly named in the carriers' release.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman argues the stock should be 'well north of $100' on this news alone given the implied lock-up of 100% of the US MNO market, and that it would be trading closer to $130 if AST had been explicitly named in the carriers' press release.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:34:40

    Anpanman references a Bank of America note calling the JV news interesting for potentially opening T-Mobile up to AST, but says the note's authors remain more focused on launch/production cadence; he says most investor questions at a Deutsche Bank event (with analyst Brian Kraft) similarly focused on production and launch cadence rather than the JV.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman expects the market to take a few days to fully digest the JV's implications, predicting the stock reaches new all-time highs in the near term as catalysts stack up.

Launch cadence and vehicle options

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman expects Blue Origin to get FAA approval for New Glenn very soon, with New Glenn 4 possibly launching as early as early June but more likely mid-to-late June 2026, following 2-3 SpaceX (and possibly ULA Centaur) launches disclosed at the Deutsche Bank conference.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:34:40

    Anpanman says the company's prior guidance of 'one launch every 1-2 months' (which was actually an annual average) should be considered outdated, with the company now planning roughly monthly launches and potentially two launches per month by year-end, targeting 45 satellites by the end of 2026 (possibly slipping by a month or two).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman says the first Bluebird batch shipment is imminent (could come out the next day, over the weekend, or by Monday), with that batch launching in mid-June, and a second batch shipping soon after to support a July launch — potentially two launches in July.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:34:40

    Relaying Scott Wisniewski's Deutsche Bank comments, Anpanman says the Ariane vehicle can launch 4-5 Bluebirds, Japan's Mitsubishi Heavy (H3) can launch about 3 Bluebirds in the heaviest configuration, and India's ISRO LVM3 can carry 2 composite Bluebirds (not the FM-1/FM-2 satellites), giving the company multiple viable launch vehicle options beyond Blue Origin and SpaceX.

T-Mobile's likely path to partnering with AST

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman speculates that T-Mobile could announce a partnership with AST as soon as June or July 2026, contributing its PCS G-block mid-band spectrum (currently used by Starlink) on a non-exclusive basis, and/or freeing up low-band spectrum (800 MHz or its 600 MHz holdings) in non-covered areas for AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman theorizes that T-Mobile pushed to join the AT&T/Verizon-aligned satellite strategy because Starlink's growing spectrum position (from the AWS-3 auction) threatened to let Starlink become a full wireless competitor, and that T-Mobile used the implicit threat of enabling Starlink as a wholesale virtual network operator to force its way into the JV.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:40

    Anpanman notes MNO CEOs are expected to attend a JPMorgan conference the following week and may face questions about the JV that could bring more public detail to light.

Deutsche Bank investor call color

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:34:40

    Anpanman says Scott Wisniewski did an investor call with Deutsche Bank on the day of the episode, and that his overall tone was very positive and bullish, though Anpanman was unable to take detailed notes.

Watch Items10

  • Definitive AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture agreement and subsequent DOJ/FCC regulatory review

    Following the May 15, 2026 agreement-in-principle announcement; review expected to be a long process Anpanman 00:34:40
  • First Bluebird batch shipment

    Expected within days of the episode (next day, over the weekend, or by Monday) Anpanman 00:34:40
  • First Bluebird batch launch

    Mid-June 2026 Anpanman 00:34:40
  • Second Bluebird batch shipment and launch

    July 2026, potentially two launches that month Anpanman 00:34:40
  • Blue Origin New Glenn FAA re-approval and New Glenn 4 launch

    Expected very soon; possibly early June, more likely mid-to-late June 2026 Anpanman 00:34:40
  • Target of 45 satellites in orbit

    By end of 2026 (could slip by a month or two) Anpanman 00:34:40
  • Starlink IPO pricing

    Expected to price in June 2026 Anpanman 00:13:06
  • T-Mobile's exclusivity with Starlink/T-Satellite expiring

    June/July 2026 Anpanman 00:13:06
  • Possible T-Mobile-AST partnership/spectrum contribution announcement

    Speculated for June or July 2026 Anpanman 00:34:40
  • JPMorgan investor conference where MNO CEOs may address the JV

    The week following the episode (week of May 18, 2026) Anpanman 00:34:40

Open Questions4

  • Will the DOJ and FCC approve the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture as proposed, or will regulators impose conditions such as requiring carriers to let customers choose between satellite providers?

    Anpanman 00:34:40
  • Will T-Mobile formally join AST SpaceMobile's network, and if so, what spectrum (PCS G-block mid-band, or low-band 600/800 MHz) will it contribute and on what terms?

    Anpanman 00:34:40
  • Has the joint venture already been informally socialized with the FCC, and if so, how detailed were those discussions?

    Anpanman 00:34:40
  • How will the market and sell-side analysts re-rate AST SpaceMobile's stock once they fully digest the implications of the carrier joint venture, versus their current focus on production/launch cadence?

    Anpanman 00:34:40
2026-05-15 49:11

Anpanman - The Carrier Coup: How AST SpaceMobile Locked the US Market

Anpanman

In a solo X Spaces recap recorded from Las Vegas, Anpanman breaks down the same-day news that AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile announced a joint venture pooling spectrum and resources. Anpanman interprets it as locking in AST SpaceMobile as the JV's satellite partner and effectively ending T-Mobile's prior exclusivity with Starlink.

He walks through the circumstantial evidence (AST's near-simultaneous press release, Abel Avellan's retweet tagging all three carriers, and angry tweets from SpaceX's Gwynne Shotwell and Dave Goldman).

He argues this gives AST 100% of the US carrier market, and lays out the FCC/DOJ antitrust dynamics, spectrum economics, and an accelerating 2026-2027 launch cadence.

His headline conclusion is extreme bullishness: he was personally buying shares intraday around $75-$82 and believes the market has not yet priced in the implications of the carrier alliance.

Key Takeaways

  • AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile announced a new joint venture to pool spectrum and resources, and Anpanman argues (based on circumstantial evidence, not an explicit statement in the JV press release) that this JV is being formed to support AST SpaceMobile, not Starlink.
  • AST SpaceMobile issued its own press release about two minutes after the carrier JV announcement, commending the 'framework' and saying it looks forward to working with the companies involved — Anpanman calls this a key tell since such a release requires legal review and could not have been improvised on short notice.
  • AST CEO Abel Avellan retweeted the JV announcement and tagged T-Mobile along with AT&T and Verizon, which Anpanman reads as a strong signal that AST is working with T-Mobile specifically.
  • Only two companies currently hold FCC Supplemental Coverage from Space (SCS) authorization: AST SpaceMobile and Starlink.
  • SpaceX/Starlink executives Gwynne Shotwell and Dave Goldman posted publicly frustrated reactions (a 'David vs. Goliath times three' tweet from Shotwell, a skeptical retweet from Goldman questioning whether there's a definitive agreement and raising DOJ collusion concerns) roughly 8-10 hours after the JV news broke, which Anpanman interprets as confirmation that Starlink/SpaceX was not included in the new carrier arrangement.
  • Anpanman says T-Mobile's prior direct-to-cell exclusivity with Starlink is ending 'next month or in July' (i.e., June/July 2026), which he ties to the timing of today's carrier JV announcement.
  • Per Anpanman, T-Mobile's economics with Starlink were lopsided — T-Mobile paid Starlink for access and received only 20 cents of every dollar generated versus Starlink's 80 cents — while AST's carrier revenue-share model is a 50/50 split.
  • Anpanman frames the carrier JV as modeled directly on the existing AST-Vodafone 'Satellite Connect Europe' joint venture (which covers 27 EU countries), and speculates a similarly named 'Satellite Connect America' entity could be announced in the coming weeks.
  • Anpanman speculates Deutsche Telekom could join Satellite Connect Europe in the coming weeks/months, since (in his read) Deutsche Telekom's approval was needed for T-Mobile (its US subsidiary) to make this move, and Deutsche Telekom's CEO has publicly said the company is wary of working with Starlink.
  • Anpanman describes an accelerating launch cadence: a new satellite batch shipment announcement expected imminently, FAA approval of a Blue Origin launch expected soon, a Blue Origin (New Glenn) launch expected in early June 2026, and one to two SpaceX/ULA launches expected in July, with the company shifting from roughly one launch every 1-2 months to potentially 1-2 launches per month through year-end.
  • Anpanman personally bought AST SpaceMobile shares intraday in the $75-$82 range on the day of the JV news and says he was uncharacteristically vocal in telling friends to buy, calling it comparable to or bigger than the original Verizon partnership announcement.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

The AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture and evidence it supports AST

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile announced a joint venture to pool spectrum and resources; the release itself did not name which satellite company they'd work with, but there are currently only two companies authorized for Supplemental Coverage from Space: AST SpaceMobile and Starlink.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile put out its own press release about two minutes after the carrier JV announcement, commending the framework being put forward and saying it looks forward to working with these companies — Anpanman argues a detailed press release that's gone through legal review couldn't be produced on short notice, implying AST knew in advance.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Abel Avellan retweeted the JV announcement and tagged T-Mobile along with Verizon and AT&T; Anpanman says an executive doesn't do that unless the company is actually working with T-Mobile.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    In a follow-up conversation with AST management, Anpanman says they confirmed they knew the JV announcement was coming and are part of it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    AT&T and Verizon are typically fierce competitors who 'don't like each other,' but both dislike T-Mobile even more; Anpanman compares T-Mobile joining an AT&T/Verizon-led group to 'the Ayatollah of Iran taking a Jewish bride' — a pairing he calls previously unfathomable to anyone in the industry, a point he says he discussed with Kook.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    AT&T and Verizon had already leased spectrum to AST; beyond that existing lease, if a mutual agreement is reached, T-Mobile would contribute spectrum as well and become part of the group.

Starlink/SpaceX reaction and the competitive read

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    No press release came from Starlink, Globalstar, Viasat, or other players for roughly 8-10 hours after the carrier JV news, which Anpanman takes as evidence Starlink was not included.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:23

    SpaceX CEO Gwynne Shotwell tweeted that Starlink Mobile is 'doing something right,' calling the situation 'David and Goliath times three all over again' and saying she's 'betting on David' — Anpanman reads 'Goliath times three' as referring to AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile, and argues the framing is absurd given AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile have market caps around $300B combined versus SpaceX's roughly $2 trillion valuation and AST's roughly $35-36 billion market cap at the time.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:23

    Dave Goldman, who heads regulatory for SpaceX/Starlink, retweeted Shotwell's comment saying 'I'll take that bet,' referencing an article calling the carrier JV 'a press release, not a deal' since there is no definitive agreement yet, and raising the question of whether the DOJ will allow it, framing three high-margin competitors moving in parallel as raising potential collusion concerns.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    Anpanman's read on the sequence: Starlink learned about the JV today and called T-Mobile, T-Mobile told them the exclusivity is ending and it's moving to the new JV with AST; this, in his view, is why Shotwell 'crashed out' publicly rather than welcoming the JV as pro-competitive.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    Anpanman argues Starlink is fully capable of competing on its own given its scale (roughly $2 trillion valuation, roughly 60 MHz of AWS-3 and H-block spectrum, and favorable FCC buildout treatment), so its 'David vs. Goliath' framing doesn't hold up.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    Elon Musk has said in casual conversation that SpaceX wants to become an MNO and develop its own phones, but walked that back to 'we're going to work in partnership with them' when pressed publicly; Anpanman believes Musk, Shotwell, and Goldman all know where this is actually heading.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    Anpanman says the T-Mobile/Starlink deal terms were lopsided: T-Mobile paid Starlink for access and received only 20 cents of every dollar generated, with Starlink keeping 80 cents, which he calls 'insane' for the level of service (roughly 3-4 Mbps across a large radius from an initial ~650-satellite constellation) versus AST's 50/50 revenue split with carriers.

T-Mobile/Deutsche Telekom dynamics and Europe read-through

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    T-Mobile CEO Mike Sievert 'made a mistake' by working with Starlink and, per Anpanman, was fired as a result.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    The Deutsche Telekom CEO (referred to in the discussion as 'Hodges' — name uncertain/garbled in the audio) has publicly said Deutsche Telekom is wary of working with Starlink and will see if others can provide service in Europe.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The head of Satellite Connect Europe reportedly said the venture is planning to add some additional European MNOs in the coming weeks; Anpanman speculates this means Deutsche Telekom specifically will join Satellite Connect Europe.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Because T-Mobile (a Deutsche Telekom subsidiary) is now reportedly moving toward AST, Anpanman infers Deutsche Telekom's leadership authorized that move and is itself considering working with AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    The carrier JV structure (multiple competing MNOs cooperating through a joint entity) mirrors the AST-Vodafone Satellite Connect Europe joint venture, which covers 27 EU countries; Anpanman would not be surprised to see a similarly structured 'Satellite Connect America' entity announced in the next few weeks.

Regulatory/antitrust outlook for the carrier JV

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The FCC (under Chair Carr) has been favoring Starlink with easy buildout requirements — allowing satellite coverage to satisfy buildout obligations for AWS-3 and H-block spectrum without requiring new towers — which Anpanman says is part of why the carriers banded together.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    The FCC and DOJ will scrutinize the carrier JV, but Anpanman expects the carriers' regulatory attorneys to argue the collaboration is pro-competitive, framing it as fostering competition against Amazon and SpaceX/Starlink, and to publicly commit to an 'open framework' evaluating other satellite providers to help clear antitrust review.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    Responding to a listener question (Juan Gonzalez) about antitrust risk from Chair Carr, Anpanman said Carr and the DOJ will look for holes, but the carriers' regulatory teams are strong and will position the JV as pro-competitive; the carriers are not obligated to actually work with Starlink, Amazon, Apple, or Globalstar even if they claim openness to other providers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    One possible regulatory compromise Anpanman floats: carriers could be required to offer Starlink as a consumer choice alongside AST, letting customers pick between cheaper, intermittent Starlink texting (~$10/month, his guess) and AST's more robust broadband (his guess: ~$12-15/month).

Spectrum, technical capability, and valuation economics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    Abel Avellan stated on an earnings call that in one of AST's countries (which Anpanman interprets as the US), AST will have access to 100 MHz of spectrum; Anpanman pieces this together as roughly 50 MHz from Ligado plus roughly 50 MHz of low-band cellular spectrum combined from FirstNet, AT&T, Verizon, and now T-Mobile.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    Satellite-enabled spectrum becomes more valuable because it can be used more efficiently (lighting up previously unused/dead-zone spectrum) and because FCC rules let satellite coverage satisfy buildout/coverage requirements, allowing carriers to reduce CapEx by decommissioning towers in some suburban areas while also serving previously unreachable customers, raising both margins and revenue — Anpanman estimates spectrum 'worth $10' could become worth '$12, $13, or $14' as a result.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    On throughput: Starlink's initial ~650-satellite constellation delivers roughly 3-4 Mbps across a wide radius; AST's prior-generation satellites deliver around 100 Mbps, the new Block 2 satellites will deliver around 200 Mbps, and Anpanman expects this could rise to roughly 1 Gbps once the mid-band constellation launches, aided by AI-driven spectrum efficiencies.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    If AST secures 100% of the US carrier market with a 50/50 revenue split, Anpanman speculates the stock (trading around $83 that day) could be underpriced and worth $100, $120, $130, $140, or $150.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    A Deutsche Bank question asked whether carriers might squeeze AST on margins in the JV; Anpanman argues this is unlikely because direct-to-device is viewed by carriers as an ARPU and churn-reduction driver, not a cost to minimize, especially under a 50/50 revenue-share structure.

Exclusivity terms among AST and carrier partners

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    AST has a 3-year exclusivity arrangement with AT&T that starts when service starts, which Anpanman guesses will be around early 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    AST's exclusivity with Verizon is roughly 2-3 years, though Anpanman says 'no one really knows' the exact term — this is his sense from various discussions and research, not a confirmed figure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:23

    T-Mobile's exclusivity with Starlink is ending next month or in July, which Anpanman ties directly to the timing of today's carrier JV news.

Launch cadence and manufacturing/production outlook

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    A new satellite batch shipment press release is expected imminently — could be later today, this evening, or over the weekend.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    The FAA is expected to approve a Blue Origin launch 'very soon,' based on due diligence and conversations Anpanman describes as giving him and 'Space Mob' high confidence; he expects the Blue Origin (New Glenn) launch in early June 2026, likely carrying Amazon's LEO satellites first, with AST following.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    Beyond the Blue Origin launch, AST has a handful of SpaceX (Falcon 9) launches and ULA (Centaur/Vulcan Centaur) launches lined up, with one launch expected in June and one or two more in July.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    The prior guidance of averaging one launch every 1-2 months was actually meant as a full-year average; from now through year-end, Anpanman expects the actual cadence to be 1-2 launches per month.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:45:32

    At a Deutsche Bank conference that day, launch vehicle capacities were discussed: New Glenn scaling from 4 to 6 to eventually 8 satellites per launch, Vulcan Centaur (ULA) carrying 5 satellites, Arianespace able to carry 4-5 depending on configuration, Japan's Mitsubishi Heavy carrying about 3, and India's ISRO able to carry 2 satellites (since these are composite satellites).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    Anpanman expects AST to have 45-50 satellites in orbit by early 2027 as production ramps toward a cadence of 60, and recalls Scott Wisniewski mentioning that starting in Q1 the company might begin 'dribbling out' the new mid-band BlueBirds, referred to as Block 3.

Stock price action, historical comps, and Anpanman's conviction

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman was in Las Vegas when the JV news broke; the stock traded around $74-76 and he told friends and family to buy, personally missing a buy order at $75 in one account before buying at $81 — he says $82.5 is still a good entry given what he calls a 'clearing event' for the industry.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:45:32

    Historical comp #1: in May 2025 (also in Vegas), the stock was around $25 and consolidating; after Satellite Connect Europe and the Vodafone Idea MNO addition were announced, it ran unidirectionally from $25 to about $55 over June-July before pulling back and continuing higher.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:45:32

    Historical comp #2: in May 2024, AT&T's definitive commercial agreement drove the stock from about $2 to $5; at the end of May 2024 Verizon's strategic investment/partnership announcement drove it from $5 to $11, and it continued unidirectionally to an intraday high around $39 a couple months later (roughly July/August 2024).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says he told Kook that adding Verizon was a transformational event, and considers today's T-Mobile development to be similarly or more significant.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    Anpanman notes three new military/defense contracts were signed during the quarter that the market largely overlooked because 'the stock price wrote the narrative.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    Sell-side reaction so far: Deutsche Bank (via a call with Scott Wisniewski) and Roth Capital appeared to engage with the implications, while Anpanman says Bank of America 'totally missed the mark' on the day's news but will 'eventually get it.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:32

    Anpanman's closing conviction: if the market fully understood the implications of the day's news, the stock would already be at $100-$120, and he expects that realization to play out over the coming weeks, comparing his current excitement level to when the Verizon partnership was first announced.

Watch Items8

  • Satellite batch shipment press release

    Imminent — could be later the same day, that evening, or over the weekend Anpanman 00:45:32
  • FAA approval of a Blue Origin launch

    Expected 'very soon' Anpanman 00:45:32
  • Blue Origin (New Glenn) launch carrying AST satellites

    Early June 2026 (likely after an initial Amazon LEO payload) Anpanman 00:45:32
  • Additional SpaceX/ULA launches

    One in June 2026, one or two more in July 2026 Anpanman 00:45:32
  • Possible 'Satellite Connect America' JV announcement mirroring Satellite Connect Europe

    Possibly in the next few weeks Anpanman 00:10:23
  • Deutsche Telekom potentially joining Satellite Connect Europe / working with AST

    Anpanman expects this within the next few weeks to months Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Confirmation of AST/T-Mobile working relationship and regulatory filings from Starlink/SpaceX contesting the carrier JV

    Possibly June/July 2026 Anpanman 00:45:32
  • Start of Block 3 mid-band BlueBird production 'dribbling out'

    Starting around Q1 (per Scott Wisniewski, as recalled by Anpanman) Anpanman 00:45:32

Open Questions5

  • Will the FCC and DOJ approve the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture given the antitrust/collusion concerns raised publicly by SpaceX's Dave Goldman?

    Anpanman 00:10:23
  • Will T-Mobile and AST SpaceMobile officially confirm a commercial relationship, and precisely when will T-Mobile's Starlink exclusivity actually end?

    Anpanman 00:10:23
  • Will Deutsche Telekom actually join Satellite Connect Europe or otherwise begin working with AST SpaceMobile?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Can Starlink's direct-to-cell business remain economically justified without access to the US carrier market, especially heading into SpaceX's IPO?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • What is the exact length of AST's exclusivity arrangement with Verizon, which Anpanman says is uncertain (roughly 2-3 years)?

    Anpanman 00:10:23
2026-05-14 30:58

Anpanman - AST SpaceMobile Adds T-Mobile - THE END GAME

Anpanman

Anpanman delivers a solo reaction episode on the morning AT&T issued a press release announcing a joint venture with Verizon and T-Mobile around satellite-to-cell service.

He interprets it as T-Mobile effectively joining AST SpaceMobile's carrier fold alongside AT&T and Verizon. He argues this gives AST access to essentially 100% of the major US wireless market, structured as a defensive alliance against Starlink's direct-to-consumer ambitions.

He predicts a significant market re-rate once investors understand the implications, though he stresses the JV is not yet a definitive, finalized agreement.

Key Takeaways

  • On the morning of May 14, 2026, AT&T issued a press release announcing a joint venture with Verizon and T-Mobile around satellite-to-cell service; Anpanman interprets this as T-Mobile effectively joining AST SpaceMobile's existing carrier partnerships with AT&T and Verizon, giving AST access to essentially 100% of the major US wireless carriers.
  • This would follow AT&T's original AST partnership and Verizon's 2024 addition, meaning all three major US carriers (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile) would now be aligned with AST SpaceMobile rather than a competing satellite provider.
  • Anpanman notes that AST SpaceMobile, along with CEO Abel Avellan and President Scott Wisniewski, retweeted/amplified the news at the same time as the carriers' press release, while competitors Starlink and Globalstar put out no PR and appeared to learn about the deal only that day — which he takes as evidence AST was directly involved behind the scenes even though the companies cannot explicitly name AST for regulatory/antitrust reasons.
  • The arrangement is not yet a definitive agreement — it is a joint venture framework that still needs further negotiation among the carriers and may face FCC and/or DOJ regulatory review.
  • AT&T is described as the 'quarterback' of the JV (mirroring its earlier role coordinating the Verizon partnership), issuing the press release and reportedly coordinating closely with AST, with Verizon and T-Mobile presented as partners in the release.
  • Anpanman ties the deal's timing to T-Mobile's existing satellite exclusivity agreement with Starlink, which he says is ending 'next month to potentially July' (roughly June–July 2026).
  • Anpanman frames the JV primarily as a defensive alliance against Starlink's growing spectrum position and direct-to-consumer ambitions (citing Starlink's AWS-3 holdings, its purchase of the H-block adjacent to T-Mobile's G-block, and the FCC-approved Starlink/EchoStar transaction) rather than AST displacing a carrier.
  • AT&T and Verizon are expected to retain their existing multi-year (roughly 3-year) commercial exclusivity and an approximately 50/50 AST revenue share once commercial service launches; Anpanman contrasts this with the roughly 80/20 split he says Starlink held in its favor under T-Mobile's prior T-Satellite deal.
  • Anpanman highlights that carriers can now use satellite coverage to help satisfy FCC spectrum build-out requirements, potentially letting them decommission or avoid building costly rural towers (he cites a rough industry estimate of $150,000–$200,000 per year to operate a tower) while improving broadband coverage.
  • Anpanman expects the market to take days to weeks to fully digest the news (as happened after the Verizon announcement) but predicts a meaningful stock re-rate for ASTS once analysts and investors grasp the implications of near-total US market capture; he notes short interest is at an all-time high of about 67.7 million shares.
  • Anpanman compares the US development to AST's earlier European strategy, where it built joint-venture-style structures with Vodafone and later brought in Telefónica and Orange, suggesting other global markets may follow the same JV playbook.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

The T-Mobile joint venture announcement

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    Anpanman says the last time he felt this excited was when AST SpaceMobile added Verizon to AT&T, and now what SpaceMob had predicted for three years has happened: AST SpaceMobile has effectively added T-Mobile as a carrier, giving it effectively 100% of the US market locked up, though it is not yet definitive and still requires time and regulatory steps.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:36

    He says he had a conversation with management (AST) that morning but won't detail what exactly was discussed since some of it is sensitive and will be revealed over coming weeks/months.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    Reading the AT&T press release closely, Anpanman concluded it describes a joint venture being put together that will enable AST to bring T-Mobile into the fold, even though the companies can't explicitly say that for regulatory/antitrust reasons.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:36

    Anpanman states this is not yet a definitive agreement between the carriers, but they are working toward one.

AT&T's coordinating role and evidence AST was involved

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    Anpanman says AT&T is the 'quarterback' of the joint venture, just as AT&T quarterbacked the earlier AT&T/Verizon partnership with AST, because AT&T was the leading-edge partner in developing the network-core integration that makes satellite handoff seamless.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    When the press release went out, AST SpaceMobile was the only provider that immediately responded and coordinated PR — Abel Avellan and Scott Wisniewski retweeted it — while Starlink and Globalstar put out nothing because they learned about it only that day, 'on the outside looking in.'

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:36

    Analyst Will Townsend reportedly was briefed ahead of the announcement, which Anpanman cites as further evidence AST was involved in the middle of the deal, even though it can't be stated explicitly for regulatory reasons.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    The PR came directly from AT&T, not Verizon or T-Mobile, with the Verizon and T-Mobile CEOs quoted in the release — the same pattern Anpanman says occurred when Verizon joined, where AST put out the initial announcement and AT&T 'welcomed' Verizon into the fold.

Timing and T-Mobile's exclusivity with Starlink

4
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:36

    Anpanman notes T-Mobile's exclusivity agreement with Starlink ends 'next month to potentially July,' and says the JV announcement's timing is not coincidental — it came because that exclusivity is ending.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    He notes that over recent earnings calls, carrier CEOs (including AT&T's) had begun speaking more openly about working with other satellite providers, and T-Mobile recently said it was interested in AST SpaceMobile and Globalstar — statements he views as being made for the regulatory record to support a 'more competition' narrative.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    AT&T and Verizon have exclusivity with AST for a minimum of roughly 3 years once commercial service launches, while T-Mobile's exclusivity (with Starlink) ends in the next month or two, which he says is part of the 'mosaic' explaining the deal's timing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:58

    Anpanman speculates that T-Mobile may have told AT&T and Verizon it would enable Starlink to become a mobile network operator unless it was let into the JV, prompting AT&T and Verizon to 'cut them in.'

Spectrum contributions

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    AT&T and Verizon previously contributed 850 MHz spectrum to AST; Anpanman guesses this spectrum could eventually be folded into the new JV.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    He raises unused 800 MHz spectrum from Grain Management that is coming to market, reportedly in a transaction with T-Mobile, and speculates about whether that spectrum could be thrown into the JV.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    He speculates T-Mobile could eventually pull its 1.9 GHz spectrum currently used with Starlink and redirect it to AST for mid-band use, alongside additional low-band spectrum and T-Mobile's roughly 800 MHz holdings.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    He describes Starlink as amassing spectrum, including AWS-3 (~2 GHz range) and the recently purchased H-block (1.9 GHz), which sits next to T-Mobile's G-block — part of what he frames as Starlink's ambition (stated publicly by Elon Musk) to eventually go direct-to-consumer under the 'Starlink Mobile' brand.

Competitive framing versus Starlink and regulatory strategy

6
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:58

    Anpanman cites analyst Will Townsend (who was briefed ahead of the release) characterizing the alliance as a defensive move to mitigate any non-terrestrial network provider seeking to compete more directly with MNOs, distinguishing AST as a cooperative partner versus Starlink as the one satellite provider planning to sell direct to consumers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:58

    He predicts Starlink will ultimately get cut out of T-Mobile's network but says Starlink customers could still access Starlink service by getting an eSIM directly, since Starlink already sells that today for roaming.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:58

    He argues the carriers can defend the JV to regulators as pro-competitive, since Starlink (with EchoStar spectrum and a stake in Boost Mobile's network) is becoming a facilities-based '4th carrier,' meaning consumers still have choice and no antitrust issue should arise.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:58

    He notes the JV will be structured to 'buy and negotiate satellite services from various competitors' for regulatory optics, name-checking Skylo (texting) and a hypothetical future Amazon/Globalstar satellite service (5-6 years out) as other options carriers could point to, while stressing AST SpaceMobile is the only cooperative direct-to-cell broadband solution actually working with MNOs today.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:08:58

    T-Mobile reportedly said the prior day it is also interested in looking at Amazon's satellite service, which Anpanman frames as messaging aimed at regulators to preserve an appearance of open competition.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:58

    He concludes AT&T and AST SpaceMobile are 'in the driving seat' of the arrangement, with Verizon and T-Mobile 'along for the ride.'

FCC build-out requirements and CapEx implications

3
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    Anpanman explains that carriers can now use satellite-to-cell coverage to help satisfy FCC spectrum build-out/deployment requirements, which he says lowers the bar for compliance considerably.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    He contrasts this with Charlie Ergen's prior experience building out Dish Network/EchoStar's spectrum under population-coverage deadlines (50%, 65%, 75%, 80%, 90%) that ultimately forced him to sell the company; Anpanman speculates Ergen wishes he had pursued a direct-to-device build-out strategy sooner.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    He argues satellite coverage could let carriers pull back on expensive rural towers, citing a SpaceMob member's estimate that each tower costs roughly $150,000–$200,000 per year to operate, representing large potential CapEx savings alongside improved 200 Mbps-class broadband access.

Economics and revenue-share expectations

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    Anpanman pushes back on skeptics who argue the JV will crush AST's economics: AST has a 50% revenue share within the 3-year exclusivities with AT&T and Verizon, and he expects roughly 50/50 to hold for at least the next 3 years even with T-Mobile added.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    He guesses that once the 3-year exclusivity period ends, the split could shift to something like 60/40, but frames this as immaterial given the scale of controlling the whole US market.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    He contrasts this favorably with the roughly 80/20 split he says Starlink held (in its favor) in its deal with T-Mobile, noting that T-Mobile's T-Satellite service quality was poor (intermittent texting, low uptake) versus the broadband-class service AST is targeting.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    In response to a listener question about unit economics under a shared multi-carrier D2D system, Anpanman says he expects roughly 50/50 for the next 3 years, with AST's negotiating leverage being very high given carriers can't easily 'rip and replace' the integrated satellite provider.

Market reaction and stock outlook

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    Anpanman expects the market to take time to digest the news, drawing a parallel to the Verizon announcement, when the stock's premarket reaction didn't fully reflect the news's significance until people understood the implications; he says he explained the deal to two hedge fund contacts that morning who initially didn't grasp it but did after explanation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    He expects AST to re-rate significantly higher once the market understands the deal, pushing back on bears who call the direct-to-device market 'niche,' pointing to the fact that all three major US carriers are now working with AST.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:36

    He cites AST's demonstrated 100 Mbps speeds on Block 1 satellites, expected to reach 200 Mbps on Block 2 satellites, as evidence of a real competitive threat/opportunity.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:22:31

    He notes ASTS short interest stands at an all-time high of about 67.7 million shares.

Background: T-Mobile/Starlink history and leadership context

3
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    Anpanman recalls that former T-Mobile CEO Mike Sievert's decision to partner with Starlink was a 'huge tactical blunder' because it gave Starlink mindshare and helped enable its subsequent EchoStar acquisition and pursuit of AWS-3 spectrum; Sievert is no longer at T-Mobile.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:36

    He notes Deutsche Telekom installed a new, closer T-Mobile CEO who had publicly said the company was 'dancing with the tiger (or lion)' regarding Starlink and would eventually walk away from that partnership once the new JV could be negotiated.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:31

    He compares the US JV structure to AST's earlier European approach, where AST built a joint-venture framework (referencing 'Satellite Connect Europe') starting with Vodafone and later bringing in Telefónica and Orange — arguing the same playbook is now unfolding in the US.

Watch Items4

  • Finalization of a definitive joint venture agreement among AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile incorporating AST SpaceMobile

    Not yet definitive; still being negotiated as of the episode Anpanman 00:00:36
  • T-Mobile's existing satellite exclusivity agreement with Starlink expiring

    Next month to potentially July (~June-July 2026) Anpanman 00:00:36
  • Potential FCC/DOJ regulatory review of the carrier joint venture

    Ongoing/upcoming, no specific date given Anpanman 00:22:31
  • Batch 1 (Block 1-related) shipment news expected to be announced

    This week, per Anpanman's guess, as of the May 14, 2026 episode Anpanman 00:29:38

Open Questions4

  • How will unit economics and revenue share be structured across AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile once T-Mobile is formally added, and what happens to the ~50/50 split after the initial 3-year exclusivity period ends?

    Anpanman 00:22:31
  • Will Starlink be entirely cut out of T-Mobile's network, or will some roaming/eSIM relationship persist even after the AST-based JV is finalized?

    Anpanman 00:08:58
  • Exactly what spectrum will T-Mobile (and potentially Grain Management's 800 MHz holdings) contribute to the arrangement — low-band, mid-band (G-block), or both?

    Anpanman 00:00:36
  • Will the FCC and/or DOJ approve the joint venture structure, and how will the carriers frame it to avoid antitrust concerns given it involves three major competitors coordinating?

    Anpanman 00:22:31
2026-05-12 1:00:34

Anpanman - AST SpaceMobile Q1 Earnings: Beyond the Headlines and Into Orbit

Anpanman

Anpanman breaks down AST SpaceMobile's Q1 2026 earnings call, arguing the stock's post-earnings drop is algo/headline-driven noise rather than a reflection of underlying progress, since the company reiterated full-year 2026 revenue guidance of $150-200 million despite a light Q1 print.

He walks through manufacturing (Texas Micron facility fully operational, ASIC now in production) and launch strategy: a mid-June Falcon 9 launch of BlueBird 8/9/10, plus a newly revealed ULA partnership.

He also covers technology validation (99 Mbps peak speeds, satellite-to-satellite handoff) and the fast-growing government/defense contract base, now 14 contracts.

His headline conclusion: the long-term roadmap remains intact, and he expects a sizable rebound similar to recent recoveries in other space stocks like Redwire and BlackSky.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile reported Q1 2026 revenue of $14.7 million versus Street estimates of roughly $37-39 million, but Anpanman says this quarterly miss is immaterial because the company reiterated its full-year 2026 revenue guidance of $150-200 million, with about half of that already booked/visible and the rest expected to be backloaded through the year.
  • The company's AST5000 ASIC chip is now confirmed to be in production and being integrated into Micron modules on the assembly line, contradicting skeptics who had predicted the ASIC wouldn't reach production for another 9-18 months.
  • AST SpaceMobile reiterated its target of having 45 BlueBird satellites in orbit by the end of 2026 (6 already up: BlueBirds 1-5 Block 1 plus BlueBird 6 Block 2, requiring 39 more launches), which Anpanman calls an aspirational stretch goal rather than a certainty.
  • BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10 (Block 2) are expected to launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 in mid-June 2026, with a second batch (BlueBirds 11, 12, 13) targeted for early-to-mid July, also on Falcon 9.
  • AST SpaceMobile revealed a new fourth launch provider, United Launch Alliance (ULA), in addition to existing partners SpaceX, Blue Origin, and ISRO — CEO Abel Avellan mentioned the possibility of launching up to 5 Block 2 BlueBirds on a ULA Vulcan vehicle.
  • The company now has 14 total US government contracts (up from 11), after signing 3 new awards since March 2026, which management says could grow into large, long-duration 'programs of record' worth hundreds of millions to billions of dollars.
  • AST achieved a peak data rate of 99 Mbps to an unmodified smartphone and successfully demonstrated satellite-to-satellite handoff without dropping the connection — both cited as significant technical validation milestones.
  • Commercial contracted revenue commitments now exceed $1.2 billion, and the company has grown to nearly 60 global mobile network operator (MNO) partners covering more than 3 billion subscribers.
  • Management (Scott Wisniewski) floated a 2027 revenue opportunity of $1 billion, which Anpanman notes is a stretch goal well above the Street's current 2027 consensus of $710 million (versus 2025 actual revenue of $71 million).
  • Anpanman compares AST's post-earnings stock weakness to recent volatility in Redwire and BlackSky, both of which sold off sharply after their own Q1 misses before recovering and outperforming — he expects a similar rebound for AST heading into the June launch and the SpaceX IPO (roughly a month away).

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Q1 2026 Financial Results and Stock Reaction

9
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman calls the Q1 2026 earnings call 'really great' and attributes the stock's decline to algorithmic trading and headline reactions to the quarterly revenue miss versus Street expectations, rather than any deterioration in the business.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The Street had modeled about $39 million of Q1 revenue (he also references $37 million) and an operating loss of roughly $90 million; actual reported sales were $14.7 million, and he describes EPS results as a miss (citing figures of 23 cents and 66 cents per share in a somewhat garbled comparison of expected versus actual), which he calls quarterly noise.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Per CFO/Chief Legal Officer Andy Johnson's comments on the call, Q1 results were within the company's internal plan despite missing Street consensus.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    The company reiterated full-year 2026 revenue guidance of $150-200 million despite the loss of BlueBird 7, which Anpanman says confirms BlueBird 7 was 'nice to have but not need to have' for government revenue.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    About half of the $150-200 million full-year guidance is already booked with visibility; the other half depends on revenue expected to come in through the rest of the year, with some potential upside to plan.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    He notes the Street's quarterly model for 2026 (roughly $39M, $41.2M, $46.5M, and $50M in Q4) implies a much smoother ramp than what the company actually guided; management said each quarter should be sequentially bigger, but the ramp will be less smooth and more backloaded than the Street assumes.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Four commercial customers contributed to Q1 2026 revenue, though a majority of the contribution came from government customers.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    Operating costs were $79.8 million, in line with the company's prior guidance of $70-80 million; CapEx came in lower than expected due to timing of launch-related payments.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    There were no material changes to risk factors in the Q1 2026 10-Q versus the year-end 2025 10-K.

Space Sector Sentiment and Comparables

3
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman compares AST's post-earnings selloff to recent patterns in Redwire and BlackSky, both of which reported weaker Q1 results; BlackSky fell from about $39-40 to as low as $30 before recovering to $41.38 after slightly raising full-year guidance.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Redwire fell to about $8.40 after a disappointing Q1 report (compounded by a large private-equity holder, AE Partners, dumping shares at around $11), but has since recovered to $12.16, which Anpanman cites as evidence that space stocks trade as a sentiment-driven basket and often overreact short-term.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:43

    Anpanman expects a similar rebound in AST's stock, noting the space sector has an underlying bid and that he personally plans to add risk on any near-term weakness, especially heading into the June launch and the SpaceX IPO.

Launch Strategy and Multi-Provider Diversification

11
  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10 are expected to launch in mid-June 2026 on a SpaceX Falcon 9; Abel Avellan said on the call that Falcon 9 integration takes about 3 weeks, implying the satellites should ship to the launch site very soon.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    The company reiterated its target of 45 BlueBird satellites in orbit by the end of 2026, which includes the 5 Block 1 BlueBirds and BlueBird 6 (Block 2) already up, meaning roughly 39 more satellites need to launch; Anpanman characterizes this as a stretch goal, saying getting to the high 20s or 30 would still be a great outcome.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    The company revealed a new multi-launch provider partnership with ULA, in addition to existing relationships with SpaceX, Blue Origin, and ISRO; Anpanman calls this a fourth launch vehicle in the stable and a positive counter to bear arguments about launch-provider dependency.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Abel Avellan mentioned on the call that up to 5 Block 2 BlueBirds could be launched on a ULA Vulcan rocket; Anpanman speculates (with acknowledged uncertainty about the exact vehicle/configuration) this could involve a Vulcan Heavy configuration with multiple solid rocket boosters, and plans to research further.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Blue Origin is reportedly targeting a third New Glenn booster (GS1, the reusable first stage) in rotation by the end of summer 2026, and four boosters in rotation by year-end; on a roughly 30-day refurbishment cadence, that could theoretically support launching New Glenn up to 4 times per month by year-end.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    The first AST launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn is expected to carry 4 BlueBird satellites, scaling up from there; Anpanman believes Amazon's Project Kuiper (Amazon Leo) will likely be the first commercial payload on New Glenn, not AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Company management (Scott Wisniewski) referenced dependency on Blue Origin New Glenn plus 'SpaceX equivalents,' which combined with Abel's ULA comments suggests ULA could fly BlueBirds in varying configurations (e.g., 3, 4, or 5 satellites) depending on booster count.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Management reiterated a target of 45-60 satellites for continuous service in key markets and roughly 90 satellites for broader worldwide coverage.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    AST confirmed it has insurance covering the loss of BlueBird 7 and expects to recover money; management deferred further comment on the next New Glenn launch (likely for Amazon Leo) to Blue Origin.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:41

    Anpanman expects AST could add Arianespace and possibly Rocket Lab's Neutron rocket as future launch providers; Rocket Lab's Neutron is expected to have its first test flight around Q4 2026, and he speculates Arianespace could get business if the SatCo European venture gains spectrum traction.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:43

    He notes AST is also making progress toward Relativity Space as a potential future launch partner, citing update videos from Relativity's Mike Schmidt, though nothing concrete was announced.

Manufacturing and Production Cadence

6
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    BlueBirds 11 through 33 are disclosed to be in advanced production and assembly; because BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10 were not mentioned in that batch, Anpanman infers those three are already through assembly and now in testing ahead of shipment.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Anpanman estimates BlueBirds 11, 12, and 13 will be close to complete around late May/early June, supporting a second launch batch in early-to-mid July on Falcon 9, following the first batch's mid-to-late June launch.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    Completed phased arrays (not just Microns) now extend through BlueBird 28, which he calls a critical disclosure since the array/Micron assembly is the most labor-intensive part of satellite production.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Management reiterated a target of 6 fully assembled satellites per month, which Anpanman expects the company to hit around June 2026, with an eventual target of 10-12 satellites per month.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    The company disclosed over 500,000 square feet of global manufacturing and operations space, and confirmed the Texas Micron production facility is now fully operational, capable of producing Microns for more than 10 satellites per month.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Abel Avellan cited a new metric on page 12 of the presentation: 650 Microns currently on orbit, growing to 10,000 Microns by year-end 2026, which would represent the full 45-satellite target.

Technology Validation and Performance (ASIC, FPGA, Speeds)

5
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    The company disclosed a peak data rate of 99 Mbps to an unmodified phone; Space Mob community sleuthing spotted a possible 168 Mbps figure visible on an engineer's screen in presentation photos, though it's unclear whether that was tied to a Block 1 satellite or BlueBird 6.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    The company expects to reach roughly twice the current peak performance (around 200 Mbps) on Block 2 satellites; Anpanman notes Abel avoided directly referencing BlueBird 6's performance, instead pointing to BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10 for future Block 2 validation, which Anpanman interprets as confirmation that BlueBird 6 is functioning primarily as a government-dedicated satellite.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    The AST5000 ASIC chip is now confirmed in production and being integrated into Microns, contrary to some skeptics (cited from expert-call chatter covered by Kook) who had predicted the ASIC wouldn't reach production for another 9-18 months.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Abel Avellan clarified in response to a retail investor question that peak per-user speeds will be the same on FPGA versus ASIC satellites; the ASIC is lighter and uses less power, but its key benefit is supporting roughly 10 times more simultaneous users versus FPGA-based satellites.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Abel discussed AI-based spectrum management and edge computing capabilities in development, expected to be incorporated into BlueBird satellites by the end of 2026, offering a roughly 3x near-term performance boost and up to 10x longer-term.

Ground Network, Regulatory, and Commercial Traction

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    AST disclosed ground network integration underway in 17 countries covering roughly 3 billion people: the US, Canada, UK, India, Brazil, Spain, Germany, France, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Japan, New Zealand, the Philippines, Côte d'Ivoire, Kenya, Nigeria, and Senegal.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    AST disclosed it successfully tested satellite-to-satellite cellular broadband handoff without disrupting the smartphone connection, which Anpanman flags as a major but under-noticed milestone toward seamless commercial service.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    He references the FCC's April 22 grant authorizing the company to launch its constellation and provide low-band service with Verizon, AT&T, and FirstNet for up to 248 satellites.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    Verizon's previously-contingent $45 million commercial payment was recognized ('went hard') during the quarter following regulatory approval, as disclosed in the 10-Q.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    The company is now at nearly 60 global MNO partners, covering more than 3 billion subscribers, up from roughly 17 then 20 partners in recent quarters.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    TELUS signed a new agreement and made a small direct equity investment of about $5 million, purchased directly from the company (not the open market) at roughly $80.66 per share, per the 10-Q.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    The company also disclosed a new agreement with Axiom Telecom, previously announced around Mobile World Congress in Barcelona.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    Contracted commercial revenue commitments now exceed $1.2 billion, up from roughly $1 billion previously; Anpanman speculates the number could grow to $1.4-1.5 billion next.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Scott Wisniewski floated a 2027 revenue opportunity of $1 billion, which Anpanman stresses is a stretch goal; he compares it to Street consensus of $710 million for 2027, versus 2025 actual revenue of $71 million, and Street estimates of $1.64 billion for 2028 and $2.5 billion for 2029, alongside expectations the company could eventually run 90%-plus EBITDA margins.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:53:43

    Current turnaround time from launch to commercial operation is around 45 days; Abel said the company hopes to shrink that to about 2 weeks.

Government and Defense Contracts

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    AST disclosed 3 additional US government contract awards since March 2026, bringing the total to 14 (up from 11); these are expected to be material or significant revenue contributors this year.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Anpanman guesses the 3 new government awards, being newly granted, are more likely tied to in-space performance of BlueBird 6 and would-have-been BlueBird 7 rather than older satellites.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Scott Wisniewski cited continued execution across 5 existing government contracts in Q1, specifically calling out progress under SDA HALO/Europa Track 2 Commercial Solutions and work related to Fairwinds tactical SATCOM (secure communications to warfighters using unmodified phones).

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Management reiterated these government contracts, covering secure communications and non-communications capabilities, have the potential to grow into 'programs of record' worth hundreds of millions to billions of dollars over multiple years.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Analyst Chris Quilty asked on the call whether the government work requires re-architecting the satellite; Abel Avellan responded that AST has worked with the Department of Defense for years and that the existing satellites already have what's needed, without confirming details like optical inter-satellite links.

Spectrum Strategy and Competitive Positioning

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    The company's satellite architecture across the next several Block generations can utilize roughly 1,100 MHz of low- and mid-band spectrum globally, combining low-band access via MNO partners, L-band in the US/Canada, and priority S-band rights outside the US.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Management gave an example where one carrier partner's combined low-band and mid-band spectrum holdings could give AST access to roughly 100 MHz of spectrum.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    He notes EchoStar and Viasat appear positioned to get access to some global S-band spectrum, with OmniSpace also in the mix, while a decent amount of S-band remains available, which he believes is part of what AST is now targeting, including in Europe.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:26

    On a question about Amazon and Globalstar, management characterized Amazon's Globalstar-based SOS capability as an interesting but backup/emergency solution that will take years to develop further, since Amazon would need new satellites (beyond what MDA Space and its next-generation successor are building) and additional spectrum (Globalstar's total MSS spectrum is roughly 15-20 MHz combined uplink/downlink).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Anpanman speculates that AST and Amazon could potentially collaborate at some point in the future, though he thinks it's probably too early for that.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    He argues AST's advantage over rivals is that it requires no new chipsets or hardware since it works with every existing phone via direct MNO network-core integration, giving it a frictionless go-to-market versus competitors who need new handset chipsets or separate satellite spectrum ecosystems.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Anpanman argues AST is the only company with proven space-based cellular broadband technology; he estimates SpaceX's upcoming second-generation direct-to-cell satellite is targeting performance in line with AST's current Block 2 (roughly 150 Mbps for Starlink versus an estimated 200 Mbps for Block 2), but expects that to take SpaceX 2-3 years, by which time AST will have iterated further and have its higher-throughput, mid-band Block 3 generation online.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    He speculates that with carrier aggregation across multiple satellites and a denser future constellation, individual user data speeds could theoretically reach around 1 gigabit per second under ideal (low-congestion) conditions.

Patents and Intellectual Property

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:26

    The company now has roughly 3,900 patents and patent-pending claims, up from about 3,800 in the prior update; Anpanman cites the number granted/allowed inconsistently within his own recap (once as roughly 2,000, later restated as 2,800), versus about 1,600 granted/allowed previously — he flags this as an area he'll need to double-check.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Abel Avellan was reportedly adamant in response to a handpicked retail investor question about the company's IP moat, emphasizing the patent portfolio's size relative to competitors; Anpanman speculates the company may be strategically allowing competitors to develop technology further before enforcing patents against them later.

Analyst Coverage, Q&A, and Closing Thoughts

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:53:43

    Analysts on the call included Brian Kraft (Deutsche Bank), Chris Quilty (Quilty Space), Christopher Scholl (UBS), Greg Pendy (ClearStreet), Louis DePalma (William Blair), Michael Funk (Bank of America), Mike Crawford (B. Riley), and Scott Surley (Roth Capital); no new analysts appeared on this call.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:43

    JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley participated on the company's last convertible note deal, leading Anpanman to speculate they may be close to initiating research coverage, possibly timed around the SpaceX IPO.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:43

    He notes the SpaceX IPO is roughly a month away and views its roadshow and institutional exposure as a likely positive tailwind for the broader space sector, including AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:43

    AST's stock had been leading the space sector's performance early in the year but has since underperformed, particularly after-hours following this earnings report; Anpanman believes anyone selling around $74 post-market will regret it within a few months.

Watch Items10

  • Launch of BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10 (Block 2) on SpaceX Falcon 9

    Mid-June 2026 Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Second launch batch: BlueBirds 11, 12, and 13 on Falcon 9

    Early-to-mid July 2026 Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Possible third batch launch, potentially on Blue Origin New Glenn

    August to early September 2026 (Anpanman's estimate) Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Target of 45 total BlueBird satellites in orbit

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Blue Origin New Glenn third reusable booster added to rotation

    By end of summer 2026 Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Blue Origin New Glenn fourth booster added to rotation

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:13:26
  • AI-based spectrum management/edge computing capability incorporated into BlueBird satellites

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Rocket Lab Neutron first test flight (potential future AST launch option)

    Q4 2026 Anpanman 00:53:41
  • SpaceX IPO

    About one month away from the episode date Anpanman 00:53:43
  • 6 satellites/month manufacturing cadence target

    Expected around June 2026 Anpanman 00:13:26

Open Questions6

  • What exact ULA vehicle and booster configuration (e.g., number of solid rocket boosters on Vulcan) would be used to launch up to 5 Block 2 BlueBirds, since Anpanman is uncertain of the specifics and plans further research.

    Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Whether Rocket Lab's Neutron rocket, if successful, could carry two Block 2 BlueBirds depending on its fairing size — unconfirmed.

    Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Whether AST SpaceMobile and Amazon (Kuiper/Globalstar) could eventually collaborate, given Amazon's stated multi-year gap in matching AST's spectrum and satellite capability.

    Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Whether the company can actually hit its stretch goal of 45 satellites in orbit by year-end 2026, versus a more likely high-20s to low-30s outcome.

    Anpanman 00:13:26
  • Whether JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley will initiate formal research coverage on AST, and whether that would coincide with the SpaceX IPO.

    Anpanman 00:53:43
  • Whether the true patent/patent-pending granted count is roughly 2,000 or 2,800, given Anpanman cited both figures inconsistently in his own recap.

    Anpanman 00:13:26
2026-05-12 1:09:31

AST SpaceMobile Q1 2026 Earnings Call

Abel Avellan · Scott Wisniewski · Andy Johnson · Max Colbert · Chris Scholl (UBS) · Scott Cereal (Warehouse Capital Partners) · Michael Funk (Bank of America) · Mike Crawford (B. Riley Securities) · Brian Craft (Deutsche Bank) · Louis DePalma (William Blair) · Chris Quilty (Quilty Space) · Greg Pendi (ClearStreet)

This is AST SpaceMobile's Q1 2026 earnings call rebroadcast, featuring Abel Avellan, Scott Wisniewski, and Andy Johnson. No SpaceMob podcast hosts Anpanman or Kook are present.

The company reported Q1 2026 revenue of $14.7 million and reiterated full-year 2026 revenue guidance of $150-200 million, plus a 2027 opportunity approaching $1 billion.

It also detailed manufacturing scaling (BlueBirds 11-33 in assembly), a new 98.9 Mbps peak-speed record, and the loss of BlueBird 7 in an April 2026 New Glenn anomaly.

Management struck a confident tone on the ~$3.5 billion cash position, a ~45-satellite year-end 2026 launch target, and growing government/defense revenue tied to Golden Dome.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile reported Q1 2026 revenue of $14.7 million (described on the call as 'nearly $15 million'), consistent with internal plans, and reiterated full-year 2026 revenue guidance of $150-200 million.
  • The company achieved a new peak data speed of 98.9 Mbps directly to unmodified, off-the-shelf smartphones over international waters using in-orbit Block 1 BlueBird satellites, and expects BlueBird 6, 8, 9, and 10 to nearly double that to roughly 200 Mbps peak.
  • AST ended Q1 2026 with approximately $3.5 billion in cash, inclusive of the February 2026 2.25% convertible notes, and reiterated it has no plans to pursue additional convertible debt in 2026.
  • The company targets approximately 45 BlueBird satellites in orbit by the end of 2026 and plans to return to the launch pad at Cape Canaveral in mid-June 2026 with BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10 on a Falcon 9.
  • AST has contracted launch capacity across a 'handful' of Blue Origin and a 'handful' of SpaceX/equivalent launches to hit its 2026 target, and is also integrating with ULA's Vulcan rocket (able to stack up to 5 satellites, versus up to 8 on New Glenn and 3 on Falcon 9).
  • BlueBird 7 was lost due to a Blue Origin New Glenn second-stage (BE-3U) anomaly; management said this is not uncommon early in a launch program and remains optimistic about Blue Origin's cadence given its successful booster landing and two boosters now in the integration cycle. No public FAA investigation timeline has been disclosed.
  • The AST5000 ASIC chip is now complete and incorporated into the production line, increasing manageable processing bandwidth per satellite from about 1 GHz on FPGA-based satellites to 10 GHz on ASIC-equipped satellites.
  • AST's partner ecosystem now includes nearly 60 global MNO partners covering over 3 billion subscribers, and the company has secured over $1.2 billion in contracted revenue commitments from commercial partners.
  • AST added TELUS as its second Canadian commercial partner (alongside Bell, with TELUS also making an equity investment) and Axian Telecom, a pan-African operator active in 11 countries, joining existing African agreements with Vodacom, Orange, and MTN.
  • AST disclosed 3 additional U.S. government contract awards through prime contractors since the last update, covering secure communications and non-communications capabilities, some tied to the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative; management expects U.S. government revenue to be a significant contributor to both 2026 and the roughly $1 billion 2027 revenue opportunity.
  • Executives confirmed AST's non-communications (radar-like) defense capability uses the same hardware as its commercial satellites, does not require mid-band spectrum (it works on low-band, already deployed today), and has been in development for many years, predating this administration.
  • On manufacturing, BlueBirds 11 through 33 are in advanced assembly stages with phased arrays completed through BlueBird 28; the company says it is about 95% vertically integrated on the bill of materials and has over 1,000 people dedicated to building composite satellite structures, targeting a cadence of 6 fully assembled satellites per month.
  • Q1 2026 capital expenditures were approximately $257 million, below the previously guided $350-425 million range due to the timing of launch contract payments shifting into Q2; Q2 2026 capex is now guided to $575-650 million and Q2 adjusted operating expenses (excluding cost of revenues) to $85-95 million.
  • Management estimates the average all-in capital cost (materials plus launch) for the constellation of over 90 planned Block 2 BlueBird satellites at $21-23 million per satellite, excluding certain initial validation satellites, subject to geopolitical cost fluctuations.
  • On Amazon's acquisition of Globalstar, Abel Avellan said he does not see a major near-term competitive impact, characterizing that capability as a narrow SOS/emergency-messaging use case versus AST's focus on broadband requiring hundreds of MHz of spectrum.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Q1 2026 Financial Results and Guidance

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  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:12:44

    AST achieved nearly $15 million in reported revenue during Q1 2026, driven by milestone achievements under U.S. government contracts and commercial gateway deliveries to MNOs; 4 different commercial customers contributed to revenue in the quarter, and the company executed across 5 existing U.S. government contracts.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:18:48

    Q1 2026 revenue was $14.7 million, primarily driven by commercial gateway deliveries and U.S. government service milestone achievements; revenue declined sequentially from Q4 2025 as expected due to timing of gateway deployments and government milestone completions, but the company expects revenue to grow meaningfully each subsequent quarter in 2026.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 00:18:48

    Full-year 2026 revenue guidance of $150 million to $200 million was reiterated; approximately half of the commercial pipeline revenue opportunity for the year is already booked/contracted, with the remainder from advanced-stage and net-new opportunities expected to be secured during the year.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:12:44

    The 2027 revenue opportunity is seen as approaching $1 billion, comprised of long-term contracted or highly recurring revenue, driven by (1) the scaled cellular broadband network becoming available in some of the largest markets worldwide and (2) one or more increasingly scaled U.S. government use cases.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:18:48

    Non-GAAP adjusted operating expenses were $91.2 million in Q1 2026 versus $95.7 million in Q4 2025; adjusted operating expenses excluding adjusted cost of revenues were $79.8 million versus $66.8 million in Q4 2025, within the previously guided $70-80 million range, driven by workforce growth, expanded production facilities, and legal/professional fees tied to spectrum transactions.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:18:48

    Q1 2026 capital expenditures were approximately $257 million, below the guided $350-425 million range, due to a timing shift of launch contract payments into Q2 2026; had those payments landed in Q1 as originally planned, Q1 capex would have been in the same general range as the (now higher) Q2 guidance.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 00:18:48

    For Q2 2026, adjusted operating expenses excluding cost of revenues are guided to approximately $85-95 million, and capital expenditures are guided to $575-650 million, primarily driven by the timing of near-term launch payments.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 00:18:48

    The average capital cost (direct materials plus launch costs) for the constellation of over 90 Block II BlueBird satellites is estimated at $21-23 million per satellite, excluding certain initial satellites used to validate performance and operations; estimates are subject to fluctuation from geopolitical factors.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:18:48

    Cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash as of March 31, 2026 were approximately $3.5 billion, inclusive of proceeds from the February 2026 convertible notes offering (2.25% coupon, effective strike price of $116.30/share); the company does not plan to pursue additional convertible debt in 2026.

Manufacturing and Production Scaling

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  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:24

    AST has over half a million square feet of manufacturing and operations space globally, is in advanced stages of producing and assembling through BlueBird 33, with phased arrays completed through BlueBird 28, and is roughly 95% vertically integrated in its manufacturing strategy, targeting 6 fully assembled satellites per month.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:18:48

    AST currently has BlueBird 11 through BlueBird 33 in advanced stages of assembly, with phased arrays completed through BlueBird 28, positioning the company to support a launch target of approximately 45 BlueBird satellites in orbit by end of 2026.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:35:11

    Answering a shareholder question on composite readiness, Abel Avellan said AST is now producing its stackable composite satellite structures in-house, owns all the related IP, has over 1,000 people dedicated to building these composite structures, and is automating/robotizing production in Midland to sustain 6 fully assembled satellites per month; the company controls about 95% of the bill of materials, including its own ASIC.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:55:27

    Responding to an analyst question on whether next batches would be ready for a July launch, Scott Wisniewski confirmed manufacturing capacity exists to keep launching satellites one after another, with more satellites ready each month, and that the company will update the public 30-60-90 days ahead of launch as satellites are down-selected and confirmed.

Satellite Technology, Speed Records, and AI Features

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  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:24

    AST achieved a peak data speed of 98.9 Mbps using in-orbit Block 1 satellites, conducted over international waters directly to unmodified off-the-shelf smartphones; the custom ASIC is designed for up to 10 GHz of processing bandwidth per satellite and is expected to nearly double this peak speed on Block 2.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:30:48

    Answering a shareholder question comparing FM1 (no ASIC) versus ASIC-enabled BlueBirds, Abel Avellan clarified that with BlueBird 6 (already in orbit) and BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10, the company expects to nearly double the ~100 Mbps peak achieved, aided by additional AI features, added L-band/S-band MSS spectrum, and AI spectrum management, without yet requiring the ASIC.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 01:01:45

    Clarifying peak vs. average speeds for an analyst, Abel Avellan said the peak data rate for the larger BlueBird 6 plus BlueBirds 9 and 10 is approximately double what was disclosed that morning (98.9 Mbps), i.e., closer to 200 Mbps peak; average speed depends on the traffic/application mix.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:51:37

    The AST5000 ASIC is complete and incorporated into the production line; it increases manageable spectrum bandwidth per satellite roughly 10x, from about 1 GHz on FPGA-based satellites to 10 GHz on ASIC-equipped satellites. Peak data rate per cell (the ~98 Mbps figure) is not dependent on FPGA vs. ASIC or on AI — that comes from BlueBird 6, 8, 9, and 10 regardless of ASIC/AI.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:45:47

    AI edge computing and AI spectrum management features are being incorporated into next-generation BlueBird satellites, targeted for production batches by year-end 2026; AI spectrum management predicts traffic and user location across a satellite's roughly 2,800 square kilometer field of view and dynamically allocates power/spectrum resources to multiply perceived network performance.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:24

    AST's spectrum strategy allows tuning within approximately 1,100 MHz of low-band and mid-band MNO spectrum globally, including 45 MHz of MSS lower mid-band (L-band) spectrum and 60 MHz of licensed S-band spectrum priority rights outside North America; the 45 MHz of L-band spectrum is currently unused, offering an opportunity to grow subscriber capacity.

Launch Strategy and the BlueBird 7 / New Glenn Anomaly

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  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:02:24

    AST is returning to the launch pad at Cape Canaveral in mid-June 2026 with BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10 aboard a Falcon 9, targeting approximately 45 satellites in orbit by year-end 2026 through a combination of launch providers.

  • Chris Scholl (UBS) Untagged 00:40:13

    Asked what happened with BlueBird 7, what gives confidence it won't repeat, whether New Glenn can scale, and where AST's integration with another heavy launch vehicle (mentioned as ULA) stands — whether it could be used this year or is more a 2027-and-beyond consideration.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:40:38

    AST was open about the BlueBird 7 loss the day it happened; the company has BlueBirds 30 through 33 in advanced production, so despite the loss it is 'on to the next.' An upper-stage anomaly like this is not uncommon early in a launch program; Blue Origin is investigating, and AST is optimistic about their return to the pad given the successful booster landing and two boosters now in their integration facility.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:40:38

    AST has contracts with SpaceX, Blue Origin, and others, and is conducting integration activities with additional launch providers to keep its strategy launch-vehicle agnostic; the company said it was prepared for a launch anomaly scenario years ago via this diversified strategy.

  • Scott Cereal (Warehouse Capital Partners) Untagged 00:42:35

    Asked whether there is a disclosed timeline for the FAA investigation into the BlueBird 7/New Glenn anomaly, how many MNOs are expected to be live at commercial launch, and what ground station count to expect by end of calendar 2026.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:43:04

    There is no publicly disclosed timeline for the FAA investigation into the New Glenn anomaly, but such investigations are commonplace and other launchers have had a good track record recently; AST remains focused on its next Falcon 9 launch of the next 3 BlueBirds while staying optimistic on Blue Origin.

  • Michael Funk (Bank of America) Untagged 00:45:12

    Asked about the hurdles and authorizations required to reach the maximum 8-satellite stack on New Glenn.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:45:47

    AST can stack up to 8 satellites on New Glenn, up to 5 on Vulcan, and up to 3 on Falcon 9, using a fully composite, self-contained, in-house-designed and IP-owned structure; the company is close to producing 6 satellites per month and stacking with each launch partner.

  • Brian Craft (Deutsche Bank) Untagged 00:53:48

    Asked whether AST has contracted launch capacity to average about one launch per month from June through December 2026 to hit the 45-satellite target, how diversified the launch mix is (including how much capacity is secured with ULA/Vulcan), whether the next manufacturing batch will be ready for a July launch, and how the company will ramp up the satellite stacking numbers per launch.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:55:27

    AST does have contracted launch capacity to meet its 2026 target — a handful of Blue Origin launches plus a handful of SpaceX/equivalent launches gets the company to approximately 45 satellites; Blue Origin's successful booster landing and having 2 boosters ready in their integration facility supports the expected cadence.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:55:27

    On stacking cadence, AST expects to launch 4 satellites on the next New Glenn mission, is mature on the 3-stack (to be used shortly), with the 4-stack likely shortly after, progressing toward 6, 7, and 8 as manufacturing and program maturity allow.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:57:22

    Asked directly where ULA fits versus the 'handful of Blue Origin, handful of SpaceX' plan, Scott Wisniewski said AST's strategy has always been to have many launch providers and has been developing other heavy launch providers for some time, with more updates to come, but current plans rely on Blue Origin and SpaceX 'to the max.'

  • Greg Pendi (ClearStreet) Untagged 01:07:07

    Asked whether Rocket Lab's Neutron rocket, if available in 2027, could be a potential additional launch partner and what capacity it might offer.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 01:07:18

    AST declined to comment on other specific launch providers beyond what was discussed on the call, reiterating that satellites are designed to fit standard 5-meter fairings and larger.

Commercial Partnerships, Ground Network, and Spectrum

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  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:12:44

    AST announced TELUS as its second Canadian MNO partner (also an equity investor in ASTS), with TELUS and Bell now serving as AST's Canadian commercial partners; in Africa, AST added Axian Telecom, a pan-African operator active in 11 countries, joining existing agreements with Vodacom, Orange, and MTN.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:12:44

    AST expects additional MNO agreements to be signed with increasing velocity throughout 2026 as dialogue with mobile network operators globally increases in both volume and depth.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:24

    AST's ecosystem includes nearly 60 global MNO partners covering over 3 billion subscribers, including AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone, Rakuten, STC, Bell Canada, and TELUS, and the company has secured over $1.2 billion in contracted revenue commitments from commercial partners.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:24

    AST is actively scaling ground network integration in the United States, Canada, UK, India, Brazil, Spain, Germany, France, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Japan, New Zealand, the Philippines, Cote d'Ivoire, Kenya, Nigeria, and Senegal, targeting a combined population of 2.9 billion people, and is deploying hundreds of fixed cells per week.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:44:03

    Responding to a question on expected live MNOs/ground stations, Scott Wisniewski said ground integration is most advanced in the US and parts of Europe, with priority markets including the US, Canada, UK, Japan, and Saudi Arabia, but declined to give a specific number of MNOs or ground stations expected live by end of 2026.

  • Abel Avellan Speculation 00:58:49

    Andrew SpaceMobile's spectrum position combined with MNO partner spectrum can reach up to 100 MHz of allocated spectrum with some partners when combining IMT/3GPP MNO spectrum with AST's own MSS (L-band and S-band) spectrum, which the company argues is a materially different and larger proposition than competitors offering only narrow SOS-type spectrum allocations.

Regulatory

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  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:24

    AST was granted FCC authorization to operate its BlueBird satellite constellation commercially in the United States, enabling direct-to-device connectivity on premium low-band spectrum in coordination with Verizon, AT&T, and FirstNet; Avellan thanked the current administration, the FCC, and Commissioner Carr for their leadership.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:32:57

    AST's IP position includes approximately 3,900 patents and patent-pending claims supporting its space-based cellular broadband technology.

Government and Defense (Golden Dome, SDA, Non-Communications Capability)

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  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:12:44

    AST received 3 additional U.S. government awards through prime contractors covering 3 unique use cases across secure communications and non-communications capabilities, related in part to Golden Dome, expected to contribute significantly to 2026 revenue objectives, with a goal of these capabilities growing into programs of record worth billions in aggregate annual revenue over the medium/long term.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:12:44

    AST expanded organizational capabilities through its wholly owned government and defense subsidiary, and executed milestones during Q1 under its SDA prime contract (Europa Track 2/HALO), a Fairwinds-prime follow-on related to NTN tactical SATCOM (including a field test with U.S. INDOPACOM), and a separate SDA contract via a prime contractor for non-communications on-orbit testing.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:37:47

    The recent Space Force budget request came in at over $70 billion, the largest ever, with heavy emphasis on space activities; RFPs are being issued and awards made for key Golden Dome elements including space-based radar, which Wisniewski called 'a really big moment' expected to be a big contributor to 2026 and 2027 revenue.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:50:12

    AST's non-communications defense capability uses the same hardware as its commercial satellites and is already in use today by the government, which plans to extend usage drastically; Abel Avellan declined to describe the capability in detail on the public call.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:51:15

    Scott Wisniewski clarified that the non-communications defense capability does not require mid-band spectrum — it works with low-band spectrum, which AST has already deployed and is using today.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 01:03:32

    Responding to a question on whether non-communications government work requires large satellite redesign (optical cross-links, onboard processing, pointing mechanisms), Abel Avellan said AST has worked with the Department of War for many years, and the core capabilities required were already built into the production line, with additions made per requests he is not permitted to discuss.

  • Abel Avellan Speculation 01:04:37

    Asked which government programs AST could target given a large prospective defense budget increase, Abel Avellan said AST spans the full range from FirstNet to classified programs to Golden Dome, for both communications and non-communications capabilities, and expects significant growth in government revenue and opportunity.

Competitive Landscape

2
  • Louis DePalma (William Blair) Untagged 00:58:15

    Asked for AST's view on the impact of Amazon's acquisition of Globalstar and whether AST sees potential partnership opportunities with Amazon as it enters the direct-to-device industry.

  • Abel Avellan Speculation 00:58:49

    Abel Avellan said the Globalstar/Amazon capability (already available via iPhone SOS emergency messaging) represents only a very small fraction of spectrum versus the hundreds of MHz needed for broadband, so he does not see it dramatically changing the competitive landscape in the foreseeable future; AST's combined MNO and MSS (L-band/S-band) spectrum access can reach up to 100 MHz with some partners, which he framed as a fundamentally different, broadband-focused proposition.

Commercial Service Activation Timeline

2
  • Greg Pendi (ClearStreet) Untagged 01:05:58

    Asked what commissioning time period to expect from reaching 45 satellites in orbit to activating MNO service.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 01:06:01

    The target commissioning time is 45 days from launch to 4G/5G connectivity activation with MNO partners for the first satellites (which took longer given they are the largest satellite phased arrays ever deployed); the company plans to reduce this from 45 days down to 2 weeks as it launches more satellites, but does not want to promise the faster timeline for early batches.

Watch Items9

  • Falcon 9 launch of BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10 from Cape Canaveral

    Mid-June 2026 Abel Avellan 00:02:24
  • Target of approximately 45 BlueBird satellites in orbit

    By year-end 2026 Andy Johnson 00:18:48
  • AI edge computing and AI spectrum management features integrated into next-gen BlueBirds

    Targeted for production batches by year-end 2026 Abel Avellan 00:02:24
  • FAA mishap investigation into the BlueBird 7 / New Glenn upper-stage anomaly

    No disclosed timeline Scott Wisniewski 00:43:04
  • Q2 2026 adjusted operating expenses (ex-cost-of-revenue) guidance

    Q2 2026, guided to $85-95 million Andy Johnson 00:18:48
  • Q2 2026 capital expenditures guidance

    Q2 2026, guided to $575-650 million Andy Johnson 00:18:48
  • Golden Dome and related U.S. government contract awards

    Expected over the next 6 months, significant to 2026 and 2027 revenue Scott Wisniewski 00:37:47
  • 2027 revenue opportunity approaching $1 billion

    2027 Scott Wisniewski 00:12:44
  • Commissioning timeline reduction from 45 days to 2 weeks for MNO service activation after launch

    Progressive improvement across future satellite batches Abel Avellan 01:06:01

Open Questions6

  • What gives confidence the BlueBird 7 / New Glenn anomaly won't repeat, and will AST rely on ULA's Vulcan this year or only from 2027 onward?

    Chris Scholl (UBS) 00:40:13
  • How many MNOs and covered subscribers will be live at commercial service launch, and what ground station count should be expected by end of calendar 2026?

    Scott Cereal (Warehouse Capital Partners) 00:42:35
  • What hurdles and authorizations are required to reach the maximum 8-satellite stack on New Glenn?

    Michael Funk (Bank of America) 00:45:12
  • Does AST have contracted launch capacity for roughly one launch per month from June through December 2026, how diversified is the launch mix (including ULA/Vulcan capacity), and will the next manufacturing batch be ready for a July launch?

    Brian Craft (Deutsche Bank) 00:53:48
  • Does Amazon's acquisition of Globalstar create potential partnership opportunities for AST?

    Louis DePalma (William Blair) 00:58:15
  • Could Rocket Lab's Neutron rocket, if available in 2027, become an additional launch partner for AST, and what capacity might it offer?

    Greg Pendi (ClearStreet) 01:07:07
2026-05-11 1:17:33

Kook's Weekly - May 11 - The ASIC Alpha and the Falcon 9 Frontier

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' episode published the day before AST SpaceMobile's Q1 2026 earnings call, Kook (with no Anpanman) responds to a Bloomberg article about the 'Space Mob' investor community.

He recaps the company's recent Falcon 9 launch confirmation and ASIC chip milestone, which he says debunk bearish narratives, especially analyst Tim Farrar's claims. He also walks through 10-K financial disclosures to argue AST has secured a larger Falcon 9 launch pipeline than the market realizes.

Kook frames the ~40% stock decline over the prior 2-3 months, driven by Rakuten's stock sale and New Glenn launch-failure fears, as a buying opportunity given the company's now-proven technology, regulatory approvals, and MNO partnerships.

His headline conclusion is that execution (production cadence and ASIC integration) is the last remaining thesis risk heading into earnings.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook, sole host of this episode, addressed a Bloomberg article about the 'Space Mob' investor community published the prior Friday, clarifying that Space Mob has no single leader (despite Bloomberg implying Kook is 'the leader') and is instead a decentralized, informal network of volunteer subject-matter experts who have followed ASTS for about five years.
  • Kook argues AST SpaceMobile has already cleared its two hardest hurdles -- proving the satellite technology physically works (closing the 'link budget') and securing FCC regulatory approval plus definitive commercial agreements with AT&T and Verizon -- and that the remaining risk is manufacturing execution and market demand.
  • ASTS stock had fallen roughly 40% over the prior two to three months to around $63, driven by Rakuten's disclosed sale of roughly half its stake (a known 13D seller that shorts front-ran), concerns after the New Glenn launch failure, and uncertainty about satellite production cadence.
  • The company announced via a press release the Friday before earnings that its next batch of three composite Block 2 BlueBird satellites will launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9, which Kook says directly contradicts bearish analyst Tim Farrar's prior claims that AST could not stack its satellites on a Falcon 9 and would be stuck waiting on the unproven New Glenn.
  • Using AST's 10-K, Kook estimates the company disclosed minimum future launch commitments of $250-325 million as of December 31, 2025, and uses that (with an assumed ~60% cancellation fee and a $74 million per-launch Falcon 9 list price) to estimate a larger pipeline of secured Falcon 9 launches than publicly acknowledged.
  • AST released an unblurred image the Friday before earnings showing a Micron testing device labeled 'ASIC' -- the next-generation AST5000 chip Kook describes as roughly 10 times more power-efficient than the FPGA chips used in current satellites -- which he interprets as a deliberate signal that ASIC integration is closer than some skeptical former-employee expert calls have suggested.
  • Kook expects the Q1 2026 earnings call (the next day) to reiterate full-year 2026 guidance of around 45 satellites, discuss the balance sheet (roughly $4 billion in cash), spectrum position, growing government/defense business, European (SatCo/Luxembourg) progress, production cadence, and ASIC integration status.
  • AST's satellite manufacturing footprint has grown to about 500,000 square feet (a 4x increase in five years), including a new dedicated 70,000-square-foot Micron production facility, with Bluebird 16 reported in final assembly and nine integration stations/teams running, per a breakdown by a Space Mob contributor known as Tanner.
  • Kook says the cause of New Glenn's second-stage failure has reportedly been identified as a minor, non-recurring issue (he declines to state specifics) and expects New Glenn to return to flight, but expects AST's composite satellite batches to keep launching primarily on Falcon 9 until New Glenn builds more flight heritage.
  • Kook frames a stock rebound as tied to overcoming what he calls 'constellation constipation' -- the difficulty of simultaneously building the satellite-manufacturing facility while designing the next-generation satellite -- arguing that once production ramps, batches of satellites and launches will follow in quick succession ('3 till infinity').

Detailed Discussion12 topics

Bloomberg Coverage and the 'Space Mob' Community

3
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook opened by addressing a Bloomberg article published the prior Friday about Space Mob, stating there is no leader of Space Mob despite the article implying he is the leader; Space Mob began as a chat group of people with a common interest in ASTS roughly five years ago and has had an ebb and flow of participants.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook credited early contributors including 'Spack Torrey' (a former US Army signal intelligence officer with RF engineering expertise), 'Katsy' (mechanical/unfurling-mechanism expertise), the late Steve Larison (a software/AI engineer), and 'No Privacy Anymore' (regulatory/FirstNet expertise) for building the collective research base; Kook said Steve Larison passed away and his last wish was to own ASTS 'until the promised land.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook said Bloomberg characterized Space Mob with a meme angle but also credited the group with doing research-level work that hedge funds cannot replicate, calling it a 'Skynet-type' globally distributed knowledge base of roughly 150 contributors, many of whom are senior engineers and lawyers with six-figure-plus day jobs, working for free.

The Three-Phase Bull Thesis Vindication (Physics, Regulation, Market)

4
  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook laid out that the bear thesis evolved in stages: first, skeptics (citing analyst Tim Farrar) said the technology would not work at all; second, after BlueWalker 3 proved it worked, skeptics said there were no regulatory rules to allow it; the FCC's Supplemental Coverage from Space framework and AT&T/Verizon/FirstNet support resolved that.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook said the next hurdle was whether any MNO would actually sign up, since AST cannot economically go direct-to-consumer (citing Iridium's costly 30-year-old go-it-alone attempt as a cautionary precedent); AST needed cross-sell partnerships with mobile network operators to work.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook recalled getting a call from Anpanman when the Verizon deal was announced and the stock was up about 15% to the high $4 range, and personally bought an additional roughly 100,000 shares in that moment believing the market didn't grasp that AST had secured a 'bona fide monopoly' in the largest telecom market in the world.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook said the final remaining frontier of the thesis is execution -- can the company build the satellites, and will the market actually use them -- calling the market-demand question one that remains genuinely speculative.

Rakuten Stock Sale and Market Reaction

3
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook explained the stock had been 'properly demolished' because Rakuten, a Series B investor with a large position, was selling a portion of its stake and filing a 13D disclosing the sales every few days, giving shorts a 'free look' to front-run the known seller.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook noted that on the same day Rocket Lab's CEO ('Mickey') filed that Rakuten had cleaned up its ASTS selling program, the company separately announced it was ready for its first batch shipment of next-generation satellites, which Kook called a 'canon moment.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook noted that secondary-sale shares typically take time (previously 3-10 days after a convertible bond offering) to fully settle and recycle through the market, and this Rakuten sale was more of a protracted ATM-style overhang, which explained some Thursday stock weakness; he expects the overhang to clear quickly if earnings go well.

Satellite Production and Launch Cadence

5
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook recapped that AST has produced two next-generation satellites since last October: FM1, which successfully launched on the Indian (ISRO) rocket, and FM2, which launched via Blue Origin's New Glenn but was 'dropped off... in a puddle' and rendered useless after the failed second stage, though AST learned about flight integration and deorbiting from it.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Kook said the company announced its next three satellites -- made of composite material rather than metal, making them lighter and easing mass constraints on launch vehicles -- will launch on a Falcon 9, which he called validation against fears that the New Glenn failure had wrecked the entire launch program.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:25

    Kook said this directly contradicts prior public statements by analyst Tim Farrar claiming AST couldn't stack its satellites for a Falcon 9 launch and would need to wait for New Glenn; Kook said he already knew, and continues to expect, that the next several launches after this one will also be Falcon 9s.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook speculated (without confirmation) that batch two might launch in July, and expects the pace to be described as 'constellation constipation' ending -- the market is hyper-focused on launch cadence, and once production is running, multiple launches will follow in quick succession.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook said the production ramp required sequentially solving several engineering problems: new Micron manufacturing, control-sat (onboard compute) integration, composite ring engineering, and satellite-stacking engineering for the rocket fairing.

Financial Analysis of Launch Commitments (10-K)

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook cited AST's 10-K disclosure of minimum launch-related commitments of $250 million to $325 million as of 12/31/2025, distinct from the deposit/prepaid-expense line, arguing this proves a substantial pipeline of secured Falcon 9 launches beyond what has been publicly disclosed.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook estimated (assuming a roughly 60% cancellation fee on a $300 million midpoint commitment, divided by a $74 million full sticker price per Falcon 9 launch) an implied count of secured Falcon 9 launches, while assuming no material minimum-committed launches with ISRO or other providers.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook said his understanding is that AST's Blue Origin New Glenn launch agreements are effectively options with no money down, since Blue Origin doesn't yet have a certified vehicle and needs the cargo, giving Blue Origin little leverage, whereas SpaceX (as the preferred, proven partner) commands standard deposits and minimum commitments.

ASIC Chip Milestone

4
  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook said AST released an unblurred image the Friday before earnings showing a Micron testing device labeled 'ASIC,' which he interprets as a deliberate signal to informed observers, given the company's awareness that Space Mob analyzes every disclosed image closely.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook described the AST5000 ASIC as the next-generation chip, roughly 10 times as power-efficient as the FPGA chips currently used, explaining that power is the critical bottleneck limiting bandwidth and beam count, so a more power-efficient chip meaningfully improves capacity.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:37:56

    Kook noted the 10-K had previously disclosed that AST 'reached a validation maturity milestone' allowing production and provision of flight-candidate ASIC units for assembly into the Electron board, and said this week's imagery shows those units now in testing -- a step toward integration.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:37:56

    Kook contrasted this with expert calls this week from former AST employees suggesting ASIC integration could be six months to a year off, framing that as a reason shorts felt they had a 'free look' to short over the summer, which he believes the Friday image update undercuts.

Manufacturing Facility Scale-Up

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:37:56

    Kook relayed analysis from a Space Mob contributor, Tanner (a petroleum engineer), showing Bluebird 16 in final assembly (with Bluebird 8 through 10 next up), nine integration stations and teams running, and before/after photos showing the facility scaling from an empty room with tables to a fully built-out production line.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:37:56

    Kook said the facility is now about 500,000 square feet, a 4x increase over five years, including a new dedicated 70,000-square-foot Micron-only facility, and that Tanner also identified process improvements such as a new method to flip and lower the composite ring onto the satellite array.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook argued the company's real enterprise value lies in its capacity to build satellites at scale, not the satellites themselves, positioning this as the foundation for a broader space-economy opportunity (on-orbit power, AI data centers) beyond closing terrestrial coverage gaps.

Earnings Call Expectations (Next Day)

5
  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook said he believes the company deliberately delayed announcing 'Patch 1' (a groundbreaking milestone) until after the ASIC image reveal, to 'prime the pump' for a bigger surprise at the Q1 2026 earnings call scheduled for the next day, and speculated this could include batch 2 shipment clarity.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook expects management to likely maintain full-year 2026 guidance of around 45 satellites with some hedging language ('target 45'), while stating that hitting the exact number matters less than the trajectory, since the market is forward-looking over a 12-month horizon.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook expects the earnings call to cover the balance sheet (citing roughly $4 billion of cash), spectrum position, an expanding book of government business, European opportunities (referencing the SatCo Luxembourg office and a Space Mob correspondent, Peter Lindberg), production cadence, and ASIC integration status.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook said he personally expects the company may announce new government contracts, potentially a 'mega deal' tied to Golden Dome, though he stressed this is speculation and he is 'not a paid consultant.'

  • Kook Rumor 00:37:56

    Kook referenced an expert call from a person nicknamed 'Only Six Inches,' which included a claim from an individual describing themselves as working at Amazon that AST is well-positioned for government contracts given its spectrum and antenna size relative to higher-band competitors, since government contracts are currently one of the few active revenue streams in the sector besides Starlink.

New Glenn Status

2
  • Kook Rumor 00:37:56

    Kook said hedge funds overreacted to New Glenn's failure to reach the intended orbit, but that the specific root cause of the second-stage (BE-3U) underperformance has reportedly been identified as a minor issue (he declined to state specifics) rather than a fundamental design flaw, which he said is a more favorable outcome since it doesn't require redesigning the vehicle.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook said there are two additional New Glenn boosters already in Blue Origin's facility and he expects the rocket to return to flight, but does not expect AST to launch its composite satellite batches on New Glenn again soon, viewing the FM2 flight as a trial run and expecting the bulk of composite-bird batches to launch on Falcon 9 until New Glenn accumulates more flight heritage.

Competitive Positioning and Regulatory Backdrop

4
  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook argued SpaceX cannot selectively refuse to launch AST satellites for competitive reasons without inviting antitrust scrutiny from the FTC, Department of War, and NRO, noting SpaceX already launches competitors like Viasat and Amazon's Kuiper satellites.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook cited FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's public comments applauding the direct-to-cell industry and emphasizing the importance of a competitive market (not a single monopoly), which Kook interprets as support for maintaining a balanced AST-versus-SpaceX competitive dynamic, drawing an analogy to Intel historically needing AMD to remain viable to avoid antitrust concerns.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook argued SpaceX and Amazon lack AST's commercial access through mobile network operators and would likely need to build their own captive devices to use their spectrum, whereas AST's MNO-based model gives it 'right of capture' on spectrum and orbital real estate that Kook expects to keep appreciating in value.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook noted a widening valuation spread between ASTS and Rocket Lab, with ASTS currently the cheapest it has been versus Rocket Lab despite both being founder-led 'true founder' companies, and suggested a catch-up trade could be forming (attributing some of this analysis to Anpanman).

Space Economy and New Revenue Verticals

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:37:56

    Kook noted AllTrails has integrated SpaceX satellite connectivity for its hiking app, using it as an example of niche affinity-group use cases (hiking, off-roading, RV, boating, birdwatching) that could become higher-ARPU customer segments across satellite connectivity platforms broadly.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook referenced a post from a Space Mob contributor, 'iPilot,' summarizing Rocket Lab's results and arguing Wall Street is increasingly valuing space companies as strategic infrastructure platforms (tied to defense, communications, AI infrastructure, sovereign resiliency, Golden Dome, PNT, and launch capacity) rather than speculative SPACs.

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook said the 'space economy' concept -- once dismissed as a vague buzzword -- is becoming real, citing AI data centers in space, on-orbit power generation, and non-communication RF use cases as new applicable opportunities for AST given its large arrays and on-orbit power, though he stressed he does not know what the space economy or AST's opportunity is ultimately worth.

Market Sentiment and Personal Reflections

4
  • Kook Untagged 00:37:56

    Kook described the 'kook bottom' as a real, painful phenomenon reflecting genuine emotional volatility from having a large concentrated position, tying it partly to processing grief over the death of his friend Steve Larison, and contrasted his own coping mechanism (intense focus on AST) with others' different responses to personal loss.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:37:56

    Kook argued that many bearish 'expert call' analysts lack good information (citing one who claimed satellites cost $1 billion and take two years to build, versus AST's actual roughly $28 million cost for each of the first five Block 1 satellites) and that market sentiment tends to be local/short-term rather than reflecting a multi-year view of progress made (FCC approval, Ligado spectrum, MNO partnerships, nearly $4 billion cash, finalized satellite design).

  • Kook Speculation 00:37:56

    Kook pushed back on criticism (including on Reddit) that AST under-communicates or over-promises, arguing that founders like Abel Avellan and Elon Musk deliberately set aspirational, 'batshit crazy' goals to rally teams to achieve otherwise-impossible outcomes, even if delays occur, rather than sandbagging expectations.

  • Kook Untagged 00:37:56

    Kook defended AST's Midland manufacturing workforce (many drawn from oil-field and other manual-labor backgrounds rather than traditional aerospace resumes) against online criticism, comparing it favorably to Blue Origin's practice of hiring and retraining workers from varied backgrounds.

Watch Items5

  • AST SpaceMobile Q1 2026 earnings call

    next day ('tomorrow') Kook 00:00:25
  • Batch 2 (next three composite Block 2 BlueBird satellites) Falcon 9 launch

    Kook's speculative guess of July Kook 00:00:25
  • Full-year 2026 satellite deployment guidance (~45 satellites)

    to be addressed/reiterated at the Q1 2026 earnings call Kook 00:37:56
  • AST5000 ASIC integration into satellites (moving from testing to flight integration)

    expected update at the Q1 2026 earnings call Kook 00:37:56
  • New Glenn return to flight

    no specific date given ('shortly'); two boosters already in Blue Origin's facility Kook 00:37:56

Open Questions5

  • Will AST hit its roughly 45-satellite full-year 2026 guidance, or fall meaningfully short (e.g., closer to 25 by year-end)?

    Kook 00:00:25
  • Exactly how many Falcon 9 launches has AST actually secured, given the company hasn't press-released the number and it can only be estimated from 10-K minimum commitment disclosures?

    Kook 00:00:25
  • What was the specific root cause of New Glenn's second-stage underperformance? (Kook says he knows but declined to disclose it.)

    Kook 00:37:56
  • Will AST announce a major new government contract, potentially tied to Golden Dome, at the upcoming earnings call?

    Kook 00:37:56
  • What is the ultimate size of the broader 'space economy' opportunity (AI data centers in space, on-orbit power generation) for AST SpaceMobile?

    Kook 00:37:56
2026-05-11 25:59

Anpanman - 99 Mbps from Space: AST SpaceMobile Decimates the Competition

Anpanman

Anpanman hosts a solo X Space, republished on the AST SpaceMobile Podcast on the same day as AST's Q1 2026 earnings call (2026-05-11).

He reacts to a fresh company PR showing a 98.9 (rounded to 99) Mbps download speed delivered to a standard, unmodified smartphone from a Block 1 BlueBird satellite tested in the Bahamas. He contrasts this with Starlink Direct-to-Cell's narrowband (roughly 4-7 Mbps) performance.

He walks through AST's roadmap from Block 2 (low-band, ~200 Mbps target) through Block 3 (mid-band via Ligado spectrum) to Block 4 (C-band, enterprise fixed wireless), and discusses the company's Micron manufacturing facility relocation as evidence of scaling production for both commercial and defense customers.

His headline conclusion is that AST is widening its performance lead over Starlink and approaching "escape velocity" heading into the Q1 2026 call and upcoming mid-June/July launches.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile announced a peak download speed of 99 Mbps (98.9 Mbps rounded up) to a standard, unmodified smartphone using an older Block 1 BlueBird satellite, tested from a boat over international waters near the Bahamas with no terrestrial coverage.
  • This 99 Mbps test used AST's first-generation Block 1 BlueBird satellites, not the newer Block 2 satellites; Anpanman notes the precursor BlueWalker 3 test satellite had peaked around only 20 Mbps by comparison.
  • AST's PR stated its next-generation (Block 2) satellites are expected to 'nearly double' this speed, which Anpanman interprets as a roughly 200 Mbps per-cell target.
  • Anpanman contrasts this with SpaceX's Starlink Direct-to-Cell service, which he says delivers only about 4-7 Mbps per cell today, requires a specific list of compatible phone models (unlike AST's backwards-compatible approach), and is currently limited to SOS/texting-style narrowband use comparable to Globalstar.
  • Anpanman states Starlink's satellites had to be lowered from a planned roughly 500 km orbit to about 350 km to make their link budget work, which he attributes to a less-optimized design.
  • Abel Avellan had previously disclosed that AST's Block 2 test satellite (BlueBird 6) was already exceeding 160 Mbps in testing, with the upcoming production Block 2 satellites targeted to reach around 200 Mbps.
  • AST's satellite roadmap layers spectrum by generation: Block 2 uses low-band spectrum, a future Block 3 is planned to add mid-band spectrum (via the Ligado L-band/S-band access) for more capacity, and Block 4 is planned to add C-band spectrum aimed at high-throughput enterprise/fixed-wireless and data-center-style applications rather than mobile phones.
  • Anpanman speculates that MIMO/carrier aggregation across multiple satellites simultaneously serving one phone could eventually push aggregate speeds toward roughly 1 Gbps, explicitly framing this as his own conservative placeholder estimate rather than a stated company target, referencing Abel Avellan's 2017 comments about theoretical MIMO speeds of 750 Mbps.
  • AST has relocated its Micron satellite-component production line to a new dedicated facility, freeing up floor space at the original site for payload integration, assembly, and satellite testing, as part of a broader buildout Anpanman describes as more than six leased production facilities either stood up or being stood up, including capacity built in anticipation of future defense-related (e.g. Golden Dome) contract awards.
  • The episode was recorded the same day as AST's Q1 2026 earnings call; Anpanman frames the 99 Mbps PR and a companion video on the Micron facility as company disclosures deliberately timed to precede that call so investors are already informed before Q&A.
  • Anpanman relays commentary from a prior-night X Space by Kook arguing that setting ambitious, seemingly 'impossible' public goals — rather than the conventional business-school advice to under-promise and over-deliver — is the right approach for founders redefining an industry, even though it produces schedule slips.
  • Anpanman expects AST's next launch (three additional Block 2 satellites) in mid-to-late June 2026, and says he has heard from unconfirmed sources ('little birdies') that a second launch batch could follow in early July 2026.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

The 99 Mbps Block 1 speed milestone

4
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile released a PR today showing engineers on a boat in the Bahamas, in an area with no terrestrial coverage, testing satellite speed; the company disclosed a download peak speed of 98.9 Mbps, which Anpanman rounds to 99 Mbps, achieved to a direct standard mobile phone over international waters using the Block 1 BlueBird satellites (the original five test satellites).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    No hardware or software modifications were needed on the phone — an important distinction versus Starlink, which currently requires one of roughly 20 specific compatible phone models.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The 99 Mbps figure is for a single beam/cell; if multiple users were in the area they would share that aggregate speed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    For comparison, the precursor BlueWalker 3 test satellite peaked at roughly 20 Mbps, versus the ~99 Mbps now shown with Block 1, illustrating generational improvement even before Block 2.

Comparison to Starlink Direct-to-Cell

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says Starlink's direct-to-cell satellites (he cites a figure of roughly 650, which he states somewhat unclearly and should be treated as an uncertain number) fly at very low Earth orbit and only deliver about 7 Mbps peak per cell, with real-world tests suggesting closer to 4 Mbps based on published reports and user testing — effectively an SOS/texting-level service comparable to Globalstar (which Amazon is acquiring).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Starlink originally planned to orbit its direct-to-cell satellites at about 500 km but had to lower them to about 350 km to make the link budget work, which Anpanman characterizes as a sign of a solution not engineered from the ground up for this use case.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes some Starlink users have reported the Starlink and T-Mobile networks 'fighting' each other for signal because Starlink operates as a separate roaming network, which he says adds to battery drain and degraded service versus AST's carrier-integrated approach.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    SpaceX CEO Gwynne Shotwell has disclosed a next-generation Starlink satellite with a large phased array (echoing AST's original design choice), which will use spectrum from the EchoStar deal (expected to close around the end of next summer) and a newly designed ASIC; Anpanman estimates that satellite won't be in production until around 2028-2030 given typical space-industry schedule slippage, and is also dependent on Starship reaching commercial launch cadence, with a targeted speed of about 150 Mbps.

Block 2 progress and roadmap toward 200 Mbps

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    AST's PR states the next-generation (Block 2) satellites are expected to 'nearly double' the 99 Mbps figure, implying roughly 200 Mbps.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Abel Avellan had previously hinted at the BlueBird 6 (Block 2 test satellite) launch that it was achieving over 160 Mbps in testing; the company had previously talked about 120 Mbps as an optimal speed and is now guiding toward roughly 200 Mbps with the next Block 2 satellites (three more launching mid-June).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    BlueBird 7 (also Block 2) did not make it to operations, per Anpanman's passing reference.

Spectrum roadmap: low-band, mid-band, C-band across Block 2/3/4

3
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Block 2 satellites operate on low-band spectrum; a future generation (referred to as Block 3, and credited to a community figure 'Katzi' for pointing this out) is planned to add mid-band spectrum leveraging the Ligado L-band and S-band spectrum deals, which will provide more data capacity (though with different coverage/propagation characteristics than low-band).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman recalls that a future Block 4 generation using C-band spectrum (which the FCC is freeing up) has been on AST's roadmap since he discussed it with Abel Avellan around 2020/2021; C-band would provide substantially more data throughput and would primarily target enterprise-level fixed wireless (e.g. broadband to data centers) rather than mobile phones.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman describes the overall approach as a 'layered cake': low-band for coverage, mid-band for capacity, and C-band for heavy-duty enterprise applications.

MIMO, carrier aggregation, and future speed potential

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Because AST's satellites are coordinated through the carrier's network, the architecture could support carrier aggregation/MIMO with multiple satellites (e.g. three) simultaneously serving a single phone; Anpanman throws out a conservative placeholder target of roughly 1 Gbps per second aggregate, noting speeds could go even higher, and recalls Abel Avellan discussing MIMO across multiple satellites back in 2017 with a theoretical target of 750 Mbps.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    At that speed range the service would start approaching 'replacement level' for terrestrial networks in non-dense areas, though Anpanman stresses towers will always be superior in dense urban areas — the use case is augmentation (e.g. offloading traffic during a stadium event) and closing coverage gaps in suburban/rural areas, not replacing dense urban capacity.

Use cases and network integration advantages

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman raises future autonomous-vehicle connectivity as a use case, arguing regulators will require constant connectivity (a 'kill switch') for autonomous vehicles even in areas with no terrestrial coverage, which satellite augmentation could support.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Because AST's large phased array can project a fixed ground cell even while the satellite moves at roughly 17,000 mph, a phone stays connected to the same satellite for about 8-9 minutes; by contrast, Anpanman says Starlink's regenerative, moving cell requires a phone to reacquire a new satellite roughly every 2 minutes, which he says causes additional battery drain.

Micron production facility and manufacturing scale-up

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    AST also released a video showing its Micron production facility; Anpanman says the company has talked about approaching a 'hockey stick' production cadence and that this PR, combined with Friday's PR and today's ahead of the earnings call, suggests interesting disclosures are coming on the quarterly call.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says it 'dawned on him' this morning that AST moved Micron production out of Odessa entirely, to free up floor space at the original site for payload integration, assembly, and satellite testing — a facility transition he says takes real time (moving/adding equipment, standing up a clean space) rather than being a sign of the 'constellation constipation' some critics have alleged.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman states the company has well over six production facilities that are leased and either fully stood up or in the process of being stood up, more than the few locations he says are publicly known.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He compares AST's anticipatory manufacturing buildout to how defense contractors like Raytheon built out capacity ahead of Golden Dome-related awards, framing AST's facility expansion as preparation for both commercial and defense demand.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Anpanman mentions in passing that FirstNet also released a PR video the same day, which he says he'll review after the Space but doesn't detail further.

Communication strategy ahead of the Q1 2026 earnings call

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues the company is deliberately front-loading detailed disclosure videos (the 99 Mbps test and the Micron facility tour) ahead of today's earnings call so investors are already educated and the call itself, including analyst Q&A, can focus on additional new information rather than re-explaining these milestones.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says he expects some interesting nuggets on today's call and that the bearish narrative around New Glenn not yet returning to flight, and questions about Falcon 9 cadence, will likely be addressed — he says he and Kook have diligenced a number of upcoming Falcon 9 launches lined up.

Leadership philosophy (relaying Kook's commentary)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman relays commentary from Kook's X Space the previous night: Kook pushed back on a listener's business-school framing that companies should 'under-promise and over-deliver,' arguing instead that a company 'redefining an industry' should set audaciously ambitious ('batshit crazy') goals to inspire the team to attempt the impossible, since the alternative to occasional delays is nothing being attempted at all — and that this is what both Abel Avellan and Elon Musk do.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman adds that companies can't run two separate goal-setting processes (an internal aspirational one and a public conservative one) because they must coordinate suppliers and subcontractors around one plan, so ambitious public and internal goals go hand in hand with occasional delays.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues that even with the current pace, Block 2 hitting 200 Mbps versus Starlink's own target of roughly 150 Mbps in about four years (Anpanman's estimate) means AST being delayed by 'a few weeks, a few months' shouldn't matter much to investors focused on the fundamental trajectory.

Detractor commentary

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Anpanman references an unnamed critic who claims to have helped design EchoStar's (now defunct) direct-to-device service and argues that design was better and that Starlink is superior to AST; Anpanman speculates this person is a paid consultant for Viasat.

Upcoming launch schedule

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Anpanman says he's hoping to keep his schedule clear for the next launch (three more Block 2 satellites) around mid-to-second-half of June 2026.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Based on unconfirmed information he describes as coming from 'little birdies,' Anpanman speculates a second batch of launches could follow in early July 2026, if things go according to plan.

Watch Items3

  • AST SpaceMobile Q1 2026 earnings call

    same day as the episode (2026-05-11) Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Next launch of three additional Block 2 BlueBird satellites

    mid-to-second-half of June 2026 Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Possible second batch of Block 2 satellite launches

    early July 2026 (per unconfirmed sources, not company-confirmed) Anpanman 00:00:27

Open Questions2

  • What will the performance/capacity characteristics of the future mid-band (Block 3) satellite be, given its use of Ligado L-band/S-band spectrum?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will today's Q1 2026 earnings call address bearish concerns about New Glenn's return to flight and Falcon 9 launch cadence?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
2026-05-08 59:27

This is SpaceMob

Anpanman

Anpanman, solo, walks through a Bloomberg feature article (by journalist Sana Pashankar) profiling AST SpaceMobile's retail investor community, the "Space Mob." He pushes back on its meme-stock framing while acknowledging the awareness it brings.

He recounts the community's origin story: a Discord formed October 16, 2021, nicknamed "NATO Alliance," including Kook, Katzi, and the late Steve Larison. He also recounts its crowdsourced due-diligence edge over institutional analysts and the emotional arc of holding ASTS from a 2021 peak near $15 down to about $2 and back up past $120.

His headline conclusion: the article is imperfect and sensationalized for engagement, but net positive because it will draw new attention to a company transitioning from speculative meme narrative to real infrastructure with major carrier and government partnerships.

Key Takeaways

  • Bloomberg published an article and companion video (by journalist Sana Pashankar) profiling AST SpaceMobile's retail investor community, the 'Space Mob,' with a headline about the stock soaring roughly 6,000% and framing it partly as 'meme stock mania,' a framing Anpanman disputes.
  • Anpanman, Kook, Katzi, Tanner, and Kevin Chen were all interviewed for the article; contributions from Brian O'Connor and Pranya were reportedly cut for length.
  • Anpanman argues the meme-stock comparison to GameStop/AMC is inaccurate because those companies had no real fundamentals behind a short squeeze, whereas AST SpaceMobile has genuine disruptive technology, definitive commercial agreements with AT&T, Verizon, and Vodafone, and long-term (not short-term trading) investor conviction.
  • Per Street analyst consensus discussed in the context of the article, AST SpaceMobile revenue is projected to grow from $71 million in 2025 to $177 million in 2026, $710 million in 2027, $1.65 billion in 2028, and $2.5 billion in 2029, with EBITDA reaching roughly $2.3 billion by 2029 (analyst projections, not company guidance).
  • The stock's history included a 2021 peak near $15, a fall to about $2 during 2022-2023, a rally to $39 after Verizon's $100 million strategic investment/commercial news in June 2024, a subsequent drawdown to about $17, and a more recent high with an intraday print near $128 and a closing high near $122.
  • The 'Space Mob' Discord community traces to October 16, 2021, originally nicknamed 'NATO Alliance' (a name credited to the late Steve Larison), with founding members including Anpanman, Kook (met via StockTwits around December 2020/January 2021), Katzi, and Steve Larison; Anpanman's first public AST SpaceMobile thread dates to December 2020, shortly after the SPAC announcement with New Providence Acquisition Corp.
  • Steve Larison, an early Space Mob member who passed away, was known for comparing AST SpaceMobile to a young Amazon and held his shares until his death.
  • The community's due-diligence methods described in the article and by Anpanman include counting cars in company parking lots (with a mixed-up short seller, 'Mr. Pink,' mistakenly visiting AST's Midland HQ instead of its Odessa production facility and wrongly concluding the company was in trouble), tracking satellites via military radar and astronomer data, monitoring global regulatory filings, and tracking corporate jet flights.
  • Anpanman contrasts this retail 'mosaic' research approach favorably against institutional analysts, who he says are time-constrained, rely on stale expert-network calls (citing Ryan O'Connor's view that expert-network 'TIGS' interviews are 'the perfect inverse indicator'), and often lack continuity of understanding of the company.
  • Skeptics quoted in the Bloomberg article, Peter Atwater (Financial Insights) and Matt Maley (Miller Tabak), predicted in January the stock would 'crater' roughly 50%; Anpanman notes the stock did subsequently correct (down 29% in February, and down 48% from its January peak by early May) before Maley predicted a further 20% decline.
  • Tim Farrar, whom Anpanman describes as the community's long-standing short-seller 'boogeyman,' was reportedly not interviewed and does not appear in the article.
  • Tanner, an oil engineer and Space Mob member, is highlighted in the article as having discovered AST SpaceMobile around 2021 (Anpanman notes the transcript reference to '2031' appears to be a transcription error) and built a stake now reportedly worth about $8 million.
  • Anpanman notes AST SpaceMobile now takes retail investor questions before analyst questions on its earnings calls, framing it as an acknowledgment of retail support during the company's financially precarious 2022-2023 period.
  • Anpanman recaps that BlueBird 6 (Block 2) was a technical success demonstrating over 150 Mbps per beam-cell performance, while BlueBird 7's April 19 New Glenn launch failed; he attended the April 19 launch event in person alongside Abel Avellan and Scott Wisniewski.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

The Bloomberg article and its framing

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    A Bloomberg article just came out about AST SpaceMobile and the Space Mob investor community; journalist Sana Pashankar interviewed several members including Anpanman, Kook, Katzi, Tanner, Kevin Chen, and also Brian O'Connor and Pranya, though the latter two's contributions were reportedly cut because the article got too long.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Interviews for the article reportedly began around fall/late fall of the prior year, with the article possibly intended to coincide with a launch, but delayed by events including news around Iran and a launch not going according to plan.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    The headline, 'SpaceX rival soars 6,000% ... proves meme stock mania lives on,' bothers Anpanman because of the meme-stock association, but he acknowledges Bloomberg and its editors chose an eye-catching angle to engage readers.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman believes increased mainstream awareness from the article is net positive, since AST SpaceMobile is still not a household name among institutions, and readers who engage may go on to research the company's technology and partnerships (AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone, Rakuten, Telefonica, Orange, Google), its roughly 50 MNO partners, and its roughly 3,800 patents and pending patent claims.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    He notes the company's work with the Department of War and Golden Dome-related awards are the kind of details that could spark further reader interest ('all publicity is good publicity').

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman feels the article did try to balance the meme-stock framing by acknowledging Space Mob's real research and long-term (not short-term trading) conviction, quoting Sana's language that AST 'isn't one of those' meme situations because of its promising technology and major telecom deals.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    The article discussed 'the Kook bottom' — a reference to Kook, described as Space Mob's de facto leader, whose emotional public reactions during downturns became a recognized signal; Anpanman agrees with this characterization and jokes about 'key man risk' hoping Kook stays healthy.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    The article asked interviewees for their position sizes; Tanner's was disclosed (as a non-anonymous, 'doxxed' member) but the anonymous members' sizes, including Kook's large position, were not disclosed, which Anpanman attributes to journalistic caution around anonymous sources.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman notes the article did not emphasize that the stock endured years in the doldrums (down to about $2) before its rally, and argues that period — not the recent 6,000% gain — is when Space Mob's resolve was truly tested.

Stock price history and investor conviction

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    The stock peaked around $15 in 2021 before falling all the way to about $2 during the difficult 2022-2023 period; some investors not only held through that decline but added to their positions.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    After AT&T's commercial agreement and Verizon's $100 million strategic investment in June 2024, the stock rallied into the $8-$10 range; many investors, conditioned by years of rallies being faded, sold expecting a pullback, but the stock instead continued rallying that summer to a high of $39.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    From the $39 high, the stock drew down to as low as about $17, but conviction holders held through to a more recent high, with an intraday print near $128 and a closing high around $122.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman argues the Bloomberg article, while acknowledging AST's technology and definitive telecom partnerships, could have focused more on this multi-year conviction arc rather than solely the recent rally.

Revenue projections and market-cap comparisons cited from the article

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    The article notes AST SpaceMobile's market cap relative to only about $71 million of annual revenue in the past year (2025), a comparison Anpanman calls fair but incomplete since it omits forward projections.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Per Street consensus estimates Anpanman cites, AST SpaceMobile revenue is projected at $177 million in 2026, $710 million in 2027, $1.65 billion in 2028, and $2.5 billion in 2029, with EBITDA reaching about $2.3 billion by 2029 — figures he says illustrate why the company is drawing rapid-growth interest despite its current small revenue base.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    The article humorously compares AST SpaceMobile's market cap to those of United Airlines, Kraft Heinz, Tyson Foods, and Ralph Lauren.

Meme-stock comparison and skeptic quotes

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman contrasts AST SpaceMobile with GameStop, AMC, and Koss, which he characterizes as highly-shorted companies with no real financial or operational prospects targeted in a technical short squeeze, versus AST SpaceMobile, which was highly shorted but has genuine game-changing technology, MNO partnerships, and long-term shareholders.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    Skeptics quoted in the article include Peter Atwater (president of Financial Insights) and Matt Maley of Miller Tabak, who in January predicted the stock was 'a disaster waiting to happen' and would crater some 50%; Anpanman notes the stock did subsequently sink 29% in February and was down 48% from its January peak by early May, after which Maley predicted a further 20% decline.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman notes such volatility is expected for a high-beta, disruptive stock, and reiterates the community's longstanding advice against holding on margin so investors have staying power through drawdowns.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Tim Farrar, described by Anpanman as the community's long-running short-seller 'boogeyman,' was apparently not interviewed and does not appear in the article, which Anpanman finds notable since Farrar has been a frequent target of Space Mob rebuttals.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    The article's Blue Origin launch-failure reference ('those plans were dealt a major blow in April when its first launch of the year upon a Blue Origin rocket failed') was criticized on Reddit for not more explicitly attributing the failure to Blue Origin's rocket rather than AST's satellite; Anpanman feels the wording already implied this.

Abel Avellan's public profile

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    The article contrasts Abel Avellan's relatively low public profile with more publicity-seeking CEOs like Palantir's Alex Karp, Elon Musk, or AMC's Adam Aron; Anpanman agrees Avellan is execution-focused rather than PR-driven, recalling a board member telling him early on that Avellan is 'an engineer' focused on technology and execution over flashy PR.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman says he would rather the company focus on fundamentals, partnerships, and defense contracts than on PR hype, though he acknowledges the company has improved its communication over the years.

Company's financial survival during 2022-2023 and retail support

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    During 2022-2023, as the Federal Reserve aggressively raised rates amid post-pandemic inflation, valuations for pre-revenue companies like AST were squeezed and capital was hard to raise, especially for former SPAC companies which carried a stigma (unlike some other SPAC-derived companies such as Rocket Lab and Intuitive Machines that ultimately survived).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The article notes AST SpaceMobile has acknowledged its debt to Space Mob, including by taking retail investor questions before analyst questions on earnings calls — a practice Anpanman believes the company originated and says he isn't aware of another company (possibly Palantir) doing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman recalls that the company never had to disclose in a 10-Q/10-K that it had less than 12 months of liquidity, but there was genuine uncertainty among Space Mob members at the time about whether the company would survive financially.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman describes the BlueWalker 3 launch as a potential 'extinction-level event' risk at the time given the company's limited cash, and notes that after Kerrisdale's short report came out post-launch (before the satellite unfolded), the stock cratered, illustrating how any positive news could get sold during that period.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    During capital raises in that period, offerings were reportedly priced down 20-30% due to lack of institutional demand, with much of that demand filled by short-covering funds or retail investors.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    Anpanman recalls Tim Farrar claiming at the end of 2023 that AST's strategic fundraising 'must have failed' based on extrapolating limited disclosures — a claim Anpanman characterizes as typical of Farrar's pattern of drawing conclusions from incomplete information.

Space Mob origin story

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Anpanman posted his first AST SpaceMobile Twitter thread around December 2020, about a week after the company's SPAC announcement with New Providence Acquisition Corp (NPA).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman met Kook on StockTwits around December 2020/January 2021 after Kook read one of his threads; they discovered similar financial backgrounds and Kook had strong conviction in AST.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The core Space Mob Discord chat (originally including Anpanman, Kook, Katzi, and Steve Larison) was created on October 16, 2021, later nicknamed 'NATO Alliance' (a name Anpanman credits to Steve Larison), reflecting a feeling among members of being 'us against the world.'

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Steve Larison, a software engineer who passed away, is remembered for comparing AST SpaceMobile to a young Amazon stock (recalling his experience day-trading Amazon at split-adjusted single-digit prices) and for holding his AST shares until his death.

Retail due-diligence methods and information edge over institutions

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Space Mob has tracked satellite movements using military radar and astronomer data, monitored global regulatory filings, tracked corporate jet flights, and built custom software to find AST regulatory filings.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    As an old-school due-diligence tactic, Space Mob has counted cars in the parking lots at AST facilities to gauge hiring/activity trends as a leading indicator of company health.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    A short seller nicknamed 'Mr. Pink' publicly documented a trip to AST's Midland headquarters and claimed to see no satellites or employee activity as evidence of financial trouble, not realizing the company's main production facility is in Odessa, not Midland; after being corrected on X, he made his account private or deleted it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman argues institutional analysts, despite financial resources, are limited by covering 10-40 names at once and rely on management calls, sell-side research, and expert-network calls, which he says are often stale or motivated by an axe to grind (citing Ryan O'Connor's view that expert-network 'TIGS' interviews function as 'the perfect inverse indicator').

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    He cites the Reddit Space Mob community's roughly 50,000 members as understating the broader network's actual size across Discord, X, Facebook, and offline contacts, giving retail a crowdsourced 'mosaic' information edge over Wall Street.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    As an example of this edge, Anpanman says Space Mob's network suggests the FAA's investigation into the Blue Origin New Glenn anomaly (which caused the BlueBird 7 loss) will conclude sooner than skeptics expect, since NASA/regulators want the vehicle back on the pad quickly for lunar missions and the issue is believed to be minor and well-understood, not a design flaw.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman dismisses concerns that Amazon's acquisition of Globalstar threatens AST, arguing Globalstar is a narrowband, low-bandwidth service reliant on MDA Space satellites for years, lacking the patents and spectrum efficiency (roughly 3 bits/hertz) needed to become a true broadband competitor to AST or Starlink.

Community member profiles

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The article profiles Tanner, an oil engineer, as having discovered AST SpaceMobile and become intrigued while reading Reddit at night as his daughter was an infant (Anpanman notes the transcript's reference to '2031' for this discovery appears to be a transcription error, likely intended as 2021); Tanner's stake is disclosed as worth about $8 million.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    The article also profiles Kevin Chen's contributions to the community; Anpanman regrets that Brian O'Connor and Pranya's contributions were cut from the final piece.

April 19 BlueBird 7 launch trip

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:58:16

    Anpanman recounts almost skipping the April 19 BlueBird 7 launch event due to a personal conflict (similar to Tanner, who had his wife's birthday trip planned), but ultimately decided to attend last-minute after the invites went out.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:58:16

    Although BlueBird 7's launch failed, Anpanman frames it as a manageable setback rather than company-ending, noting BlueBird 7 was a backup to the already-successful BlueBird 6 and would have been 'gravy' for demonstrating satellite operations tied to an SDA contract.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:58:16

    Anpanman confirms BlueBird 6 achieved over 150 megabits per second performance per beam cell, calling it evidence that AST's early steps toward improved spectrum efficiency are working, despite the disappointment of BlueBird 7's loss.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:58:16

    Anpanman says he met Abel Avellan and Scott Wisniewski along with several new community members at the launch trip.

Reflections on the journalist and closing remarks

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:58:16

    Anpanman believes journalist Sana Pashankar may have originally intended a less meme-focused article but was likely steered by her editor toward the more sensationalized framing to attract readers; he speaks positively of her work and recommends following her ongoing space-sector coverage (including of Rocket Lab and eventually SpaceX).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:58:16

    Responding to a listener comment calling the community 'inexperienced,' Anpanman concedes many Space Mob members are non-professional investors (engineers, production workers, lawyers, accountants) but argues that years of holding through AST's volatility have made many of them experienced investors by now.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:58:16

    Anpanman closes by flagging two near-term items: a quarterly update coming on Monday, and a first Block 2 satellite batch shipment that could go out 'any day now' over the next two weeks if the company is to make a targeted mid-June Falcon 9 launch window.

Watch Items3

  • AST SpaceMobile quarterly update/earnings call

    Coming Monday (shortly after this May 8, 2026 episode) Anpanman 00:58:16
  • First Block 2 BlueBird batch shipment ahead of a targeted mid-June Falcon 9 launch

    Could ship 'any day now,' within the next two weeks, to support a mid-June Falcon 9 launch window Anpanman 00:58:16
  • FAA mishap investigation into the Blue Origin New Glenn anomaly that caused BlueBird 7's loss

    Anpanman expects resolution sooner than skeptics anticipate, given pressure to return New Glenn to flight for lunar missions Anpanman 00:00:25

Open Questions3

  • Whether Tim Farrar was contacted by Bloomberg for the article and simply didn't make the final cut, or wasn't interviewed at all.

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • How much the FAA's investigation into the New Glenn upper-stage anomaly will delay Blue Origin's return-to-flight and any future AST BlueBird launches on that vehicle.

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Whether the first Block 2 satellite batch will ship in time to make the targeted mid-June Falcon 9 launch window.

    Anpanman 00:58:16
2026-05-06 32:13

Anpanman - SpaceMobile Markets: The Rakuten Exit and Analyst Games

Anpanman

Anpanman (solo) breaks down the completed Rakuten share sale in AST SpaceMobile, criticizing Bank of America's execution of the 10b5-1 selling plan.

He then explains the 'game' Wall Street sell-side analysts play with price targets and estimates ahead of earnings, using B. Riley's target cut as an example. He closes with a short update on an unrelated small-cap holding, Strata Critical.

His headline conclusion is that the Rakuten overhang is now fully lifted from ASTS shares. But he also concludes that Bank of America's slow, multi-week open-market execution (rather than an overnight block trade) inadvertently signaled weakness to short sellers and capped the stock during key catalysts like the FCC approval.

Key Takeaways

  • Rakuten (Japan) completed the sale of just over 15 million shares (roughly 15.5 million) of AST SpaceMobile since April 17, 2026, executed via a 10b5-1 automatic selling plan with Bank of America as the broker; the sale wrapped up the night before this May 6, 2026 episode.
  • A 10b5-1 plan is a pre-set, broker-executed selling program that frees an insider from trading restrictions even if they later come into possession of material non-public information, since the sale schedule is set in advance.
  • Rakuten's stake fell to roughly 5.3% ownership after the sale; Rakuten founder/CEO Mickey Mikitani stepped off AST's board in January 2026, but Rakuten retains a board observer seat (can attend meetings but not participate in committees, and must recuse from sensitive commercial/strategic discussions) until its ownership falls below a 5% threshold.
  • Anpanman, a former investment banker, argues Bank of America should have executed an overnight block trade (like Redwire's recent deal) instead of a multi-week open-market sale, because the visible, drawn-out selling let short sellers front-run the flow and capped the stock's upside around catalysts such as the FCC's constellation approval.
  • AST SpaceMobile stock closed at $88 on April 17, 2026 (before the sale was announced) and fell to $79.40 after the loss of the BlueBird 7 satellite; Bank of America represented about 10% of trading volume on the FCC-approval up-day and 13.3% of volume on April 30, the one up day in a roughly six-day losing streak.
  • B. Riley cut its AST SpaceMobile price target to $75 from $95 on the day of the episode; Anpanman argues this is actually a favorable setup, since lowering the target on an up day removes downside and creates room for B. Riley to raise it again if the May 11, 2026 earnings report and guidance are positive.
  • Anpanman describes how sell-side research analysts are influenced by both hedge funds and long-only investors, who lobby analysts to raise or lower earnings estimates ahead of a print to engineer a beat or a miss, citing historical examples like Viacom/CBS managing Street consensus, and naming Scotiabank's analyst as an example of a formerly bullish analyst turning bearish.
  • AST SpaceMobile now has more than 10 major investment banks providing research coverage, up from only two or three in the company's earlier history, which Anpanman says is important for attracting institutional investors and for comparable-company analysis (e.g., in a potential SpaceX IPO).
  • Strata Critical, a former SPAC that divested its Blade passenger/helicopter business to Joby and pivoted to organ-transplant logistics, reported another strong quarter beating revenue, EBITDA, and net income — its second standalone beat since acquiring Keystone Perfusion — and picked up new research coverage from B. Riley and Craig Hallam.

Detailed Discussion4 topics

Rakuten's completed share sale

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Last night it was confirmed Rakuten wrapped up its sales, having sold a total of just over 15 million shares (Anpanman estimates ~15.5 million) since April 17, 2026, via a 10b5-1 automatic selling plan executed by Bank of America.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:07

    A 10b5-1 plan lets an insider set predetermined instructions (timing, price floors, volume limits) with a bank in advance, so that future sales aren't restricted even if the seller later receives material non-public information — it 'cleanses' the seller of insider-trading concerns.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:07

    Background: Rakuten founder/chairman/CEO Mickey Mikitani was an early AST SpaceMobile investor (roughly $100 million invested years ago, since grown into billions); he modeled himself on SoftBank's Masayoshi Son and started Rakuten Mobile, initially only with mid-band spectrum, later (Anpanman says roughly 2-3 years ago) obtaining Japan's 700 MHz 'platinum band,' which is the same band AST plans to use for its Japan service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Rakuten Mobile's wireless buildout left the parent company overleveraged, spending 'north of like $500 million' a year in USD-equivalent interest expense; with Japanese interest rates rising from previously near-zero/negative levels, Rakuten has been under pressure to deleverage, exploring options including monetizing its fintech business and, ultimately, selling down its highly appreciated AST SpaceMobile stake.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Rakuten was previously a greater-than-10% holder of AST SpaceMobile; Mikitani's stepping off the board in January 2026 freed Rakuten from an obligation to hold its full stake.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Rakuten retains a board observer seat — it can attend board meetings and see company information but can't actively participate on committees, and must recuse from sensitive commercial and strategic discussions. It keeps this seat until falling below two trigger thresholds; Anpanman states the first is 5% ownership (Rakuten is currently around 5.3%) but couldn't recall the second trigger.

Critique of Bank of America's execution

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman, a former banker himself, argues Bank of America should have executed an overnight block trade (bookbuild) for the roughly 15 million shares — similar to how Redwire recently moved stock for AE Industrial Partners — rather than an open-market sale spread over about three weeks.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    In a block-trade scenario, Anpanman guesses the bank could have priced the whole 15 million shares at a 5-10-15% discount to the April 17, 2026 closing price of $88 (e.g., around $80), placing it overnight with long-only and hedge-fund accounts, avoiding weeks of visible selling pressure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Because the multi-week open-market sale was visible (Rakuten being a former board member and 13D holder), the market knew Bank of America would be a seller every day, in a range Anpanman estimates from mid-single-digit to over 10% of volume, giving short sellers 'carte blanche' to trade against the stock.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Trading data cited: the stock closed at $88 on April 17, 2026 before the sale was disclosed, and fell to $79.40 after the BlueBird 7 loss. Bank of America beat VWAP on some days; on the day of FCC constellation/SCS approval it represented about 10% of trading volume, and on April 30 — the one up day in roughly six straight down days — it represented 13.3% of volume.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman speculates that had Rakuten not pre-announced the sale and had BlueBird 7 not been lost, the stock likely would have traded closer to the '90s' rather than the mid-$80s around the time of FCC approval, or the bank could have executed a block trade at a higher price.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    With the sale now complete, Anpanman expects the stock's 'overhang' from the presumed daily seller to be lifted, allowing the shares to trade more freely going forward.

Wall Street research analyst dynamics

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    B. Riley lowered its AST SpaceMobile price target to $75 from $95 on the day of this episode.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman frames the cut positively: since the stock was already up that day, the lower target carries little cost, but it gives B. Riley room to raise the target back up after the May 11, 2026 earnings report if results and guidance (e.g., on production/shipments) come in positive.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:07

    Sell-side research analysts facilitate information flow under Reg FD — company conversations with analysts become effectively disclosed once published — and both hedge funds and long-only funds lobby analysts to shift estimates in their preferred direction, either to set up an earnings beat or a miss.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:07

    He cites a historical example from TMT coverage (Viacom and CBS) where management would tell sell-side analysts before a print that estimates were too high, prompting analysts to lower numbers just ahead of earnings so the company could 'beat' a lowered bar.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Conversely, short sellers sometimes convince analysts to raise estimates or guidance expectations before a print (posing as bulls), which can raise the bar high enough that the company disappoints even on an in-line result — Anpanman says this pattern makes him nervous for stocks he owns.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman singles out the Scotiabank analyst as an example of an analyst who was previously very bullish on AST SpaceMobile but has since turned very bearish; he speculates this reflects influence from short-seller commission relationships rather than independent analysis, noting Scotia isn't (to his knowledge) working on any of AST's financings.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    AST SpaceMobile now has more than 10 major investment banks covering the stock, versus only two or three in the company's earlier history; broad coverage matters because institutions doing comparable-company work (e.g., for a potential SpaceX IPO) rely on published research to get up to speed and gauge sentiment.

Strata Critical earnings update (non-ASTS holding)

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Strata Critical, a former de-SPAC that sold its Blade passenger helicopter business to Joby and pivoted to organ-transplant logistics (removing and delivering organs to recipients), reported another strong quarter this morning, beating revenue, EBITDA, and net income.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    This marks the second standalone quarter of beats since Strata Critical's transformational acquisition of Keystone Perfusion roughly two quarters earlier; the company lost its prior passenger-business-focused analyst coverage but has since picked up two new research analysts, from B. Riley and Craig Hallam.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Anpanman contrasts Strata Critical's strong quarter with peer TransMedic, which he says reported a 'pretty awful quarter' the day before, calling it a 'tale of two cities.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman still holds only a smaller position in Strata Critical but remains positive on continued execution and a gradual re-rating; he has a management call scheduled for the next day to get more detail on the quarter and plans to discuss it further next week.

Watch Items4

  • AST SpaceMobile earnings update

    Monday, May 11 (2026) Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Possible B. Riley price target increase back up from $75 if May 11 results/guidance are positive

    After the May 11, 2026 earnings report Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Anpanman's call with Strata Critical management for more quarter detail

    The day after this episode (tomorrow) Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Possible follow-up AST SpaceMobile space/episode

    Later the same day or the next day Anpanman 00:00:07

Open Questions3

  • Would AST SpaceMobile stock have traded meaningfully higher (Anpanman guesses into the '90s') around the time of FCC approval if Rakuten's selling hadn't been pre-signaled and if BlueBird 7 hadn't been lost?

    Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Will B. Riley actually raise its price target back up after the May 11, 2026 earnings report, and by how much, contingent on the results and guidance?

    Anpanman 00:00:07
  • What is the second (unnamed) ownership-threshold trigger, besides falling below 5%, that would cause Rakuten to lose its AST SpaceMobile board observer seat?

    Anpanman 00:00:07
2026-05-05 25:17

Anpanman - Sentiment Check

Anpanman

In this solo X Spaces recap published May 5, 2026, Anpanman addresses the brutal sentiment and sector-wide sell-off hitting AST SpaceMobile and other space stocks following the BlueBird 7 launch failure. He frames it as a normal drawdown for a high-beta name.

He walks through the upcoming catalyst calendar: Monday's Q1 earnings, the next three BlueBird batches, and a possible earlier-than-expected Blue Origin New Glenn return to flight.

He argues that record short interest plus low implied volatility sets up a potential sharp rally, while cautioning listeners against trading on margin during the uncertainty.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman hosted a solo AST SpaceMobile 'sentiment check' space on May 5, 2026, describing the stock's decline since the April BlueBird 7 launch failure as part of a sector-wide sell-off, with AST down 6.7% that day alongside declines in Firefly, Carmen, Intuitive Machines, Planet Labs, and Rocket Lab.
  • AST SpaceMobile's Q1 2026 earnings call was scheduled for the Monday following this episode, and Anpanman expected an update on production and shipping progress for the next batch of three BlueBird satellites, which the company had targeted shipping roughly 30 days out.
  • Anpanman laid out an expected launch cadence of three additional BlueBird batches (BB8-10, BB11-13, BB14-16) via Falcon 9 in June, then late June/early July, then August, following roughly 3-4 weeks of Falcon 9 integration time.
  • Anpanman believes Blue Origin's New Glenn could return to operations sooner than the market expects, versus a skeptics' aggressive estimate of 60-70 days, though the FAA investigation into the BlueBird 7 mishap must still conclude.
  • Anpanman attributed rising negative sentiment to a confluence of factors: the BlueBird 7 orbital failure, perceived production delays, Rakuten's ongoing sale of half its AST stake, the Amazon-Globalstar acquisition being seen as a competitive overhang, and an uptick in institutional short interest and expert-network due-diligence activity, including a circulating rumor (which he called 'patently absurd') that AST's satellites don't fit inside a SpaceX rocket fairing.
  • Anpanman argued the combination of low implied volatility, all-time-high short interest, and depressed sentiment creates ingredients for a potential sharp rally over the coming weeks and summer if the company executes on its launch and production catalysts.
  • Anpanman said the company's reach goal of approximately 45 satellites in orbit by year-end matters less than the exit velocity of monthly production cadence — reaching a consistent 6 satellites/month (72/year) is the key threshold for 45-60 satellites needed for decent global coverage, with upside to 8/month (96/year) or even 10/month (120/year) if additional floor space materializes.
  • Due to contractual restrictions in AST's multi-launch agreement, the company cannot publicly confirm specific SpaceX Falcon 9 launches until closer to the launch date, which Anpanman said has fueled unfounded investor worry that AST lacks SpaceX launch capacity — he stated two BlueBird launches are already on public launch-tracking schedules with a third expected to appear soon.
  • A Bloomberg article featuring interviews with members of the 'SpaceMob' community (including Anpanman, who was contacted for fact-checking) was expected to publish on Friday, May 8, 2026.
  • Anpanman advised investors to avoid trading on margin or being overleveraged during periods of high uncertainty and stock volatility, citing AST's history of multiple 40-50% drawdowns as a recurring feature of holding the stock long-term.

Detailed Discussion7 topics

Stock performance and sector-wide sentiment

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile stock has been on a downward spiral since the April launch (referring to the BlueBird 7 New Glenn failure), sentiment has turned pretty negative, and Anpanman says he hasn't seen this much negativity online in quite some time, though he adds it's justified given the circumstances.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST was down 6.7% on the day of recording; other space names were also down — Firefly (up ~20% pre-market, later down 4.4%), Carmen down 6.5%, Intuitive Machines down 4.4%, Planet Labs down 6.2%, and Rocket Lab down 4.2% (Rocket Lab had rallied to the low 90s after the Blue Origin second-stage failure but has since come off to 77).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman believes AST acts as a proxy for the broader space sector, so when AST sells off, other space names tend to sell off too; he notes AST has underperformed the rest of the space sector since the launch failure.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Broader market indices (S&P, Dow, Russell, Nasdaq) were all up on the day, while certain sectors like semiconductors/optical components and some quantum names were rallying and nuclear names were down — Anpanman frames this as normal sector rotation, contrasting it with space's 'breather' after a big rally in January driven by defense-spending excitement.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Anpanman cited storage/memory names (SanDisk, Micron, Western Digital, Seagate) and Intel as examples of previously unloved stocks now rallying hard due to AI data-center demand and government/Apple-related domestic chip fab backing, illustrating how market momentum and 'fast money' rotate between sectors.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The SpaceX IPO is still expected to happen in the next few weeks, indicating overall sector interest hasn't disappeared even as momentum has shifted elsewhere.

Upcoming Q1 2026 earnings and quiet period

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile had earnings coming up on the Monday following this episode (early/mid May 2026), where Anpanman expected an update on production and shipping status of the next BlueBird batch, and whether shipping three satellites would happen on time; the company had been targeting approximately 30 days for that shipment.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    The company is in a quiet period ahead of earnings and can't comment further unless there's material news; AST did put out a press release on April 20th addressing the BlueBird 7 orbital failure and the FCC full-constellation approval.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman said he's looking forward to updates on government contracts (in the 'sweet spot' of additional Golden Dome-related work) and whether the company will give an update on the approximately $1.1 billion of contracted revenue backlog, as well as any new MNO definitive agreements.

Launch manifest and production cadence outlook

8
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Falcon 9 integration of the next BlueBird batch is expected to take roughly 3-4 weeks after shipment, pointing to a launch in June; two further batches of three satellites are expected in late June/early July and then August.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman expects Blue Origin's New Glenn could return to operations for its next launch sooner than the market anticipates; skeptics are pricing in several months, with an aggressive-end estimate around 60-70 days, but Anpanman says there are hints Blue Origin understands the Stage 2 failure well and could return sooner.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:49

    Reaching the company's approximately 45-satellite target this year is an aggressive 'reach goal' contingent on getting the next 9 satellites off via Falcon 9 and then resuming Blue Origin New Glenn launches (capable of carrying 6 satellites at a time), on top of the 6 BlueBirds already in orbit; Anpanman doesn't think it would make a big difference if the company instead reaches 40, 35, or the high 30s.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:49

    Anpanman argues what matters most by year-end is the exit velocity of production cadence: consistently producing 6 satellites a month (72/year) is the key number for building toward the 45-60 satellites needed for decent global coverage; going beyond that improves performance further.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:10:49

    If AST can increase cadence from 6 to 8 satellites per month, that's 96 satellites annualized; Scott Wisniewski has discussed the possibility of tooling up and adding floor space to reach as many as 10 satellites a month, or 120 a year.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:10:49

    The company still reiterated the approximately 45-satellite stretch goal as achievable even after the BlueBird 7 setback and the Blue Origin hold pending the FAA investigation conclusion.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:49

    The next three BlueBird batches on the catalyst tracker are BB8-10, BB11-13, and BB14-16, expected to launch within the June-July-August timeframe, followed probably by the first fully loaded Blue Origin New Glenn launch.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:10:49

    A prior manufacturing issue involving satellite stacking has reportedly been resolved.

Short interest, rumors, and market setup

6
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Institutional short interest has risen; the straightforward bear narrative is that BlueBird 7 wasn't put into proper orbit and that production cadence has been delayed, comparing it to Tesla-style 'production hell' common to first-of-its-kind manufacturing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Rakuten had been planning to sell half its stake beginning in January under a 10b5-1 plan after stepping off the board; Anpanman estimates Rakuten is probably about two-thirds of the way through that sale, with not much remaining, and says this overhang has weighed on sentiment.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The Amazon acquisition of Globalstar has also been an overhang on AST sentiment.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Contacts on the institutional side within 'SpaceMob' report a lot more short-seller activity, including a circulating rumor that AST's satellites won't fit inside a SpaceX payload fairing — Anpanman calls this rumor 'patently absurd.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    There's been a flurry of institutional investors using expert networks to conduct due diligence on the company, which Anpanman says typically happens either when investors are considering going long during strong performance, or when shorts are trying to gather ammunition during a downturn.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman believes the combination of low implied volatility, all-time-high short interest, and very negative sentiment creates the ingredients for what should be a pretty spectacular rally over the coming weeks and into the summer, especially given the lined-up launches.

SpaceX launch disclosure restrictions

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:49

    Due to how AST's multi-launch agreement is structured, the company cannot disclose that it is flying on SpaceX until closer to the launch date; this was also true for the Block 1 BlueBird launch, where SpaceX was shown in graphics but not referred to by name. Anpanman says other companies have similar restrictions, though some (e.g., Viasat) are permitted to specifically reference flying on a Falcon 9 Heavy.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:49

    Anpanman reassured listeners worried that AST lacks SpaceX launch capacity: two upcoming BlueBird launches are already visible on public launch-tracking sites, with a third expected to appear on the schedule soon.

Bloomberg article on the SpaceMob community

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:49

    Bloomberg independently interviewed various members of the 'SpaceMob' community (including Anpanman, who was contacted to fact-check some details) for an upcoming feature article, expected to publish Friday, May 8, 2026; Anpanman hasn't read the full article and is unsure how the community will be portrayed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:49

    Anpanman jokes he'd have preferred the article come out when the stock was at $100-120 rather than at $64, referencing the recurring pattern where retail regret and awareness cycles play out as the stock swings between lows and new all-time highs.

Investor psychology and risk management

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:49

    Anpanman describes AST as a high-beta, high-growth name requiring investors to stomach significant volatility, noting the company has previously experienced multiple 40-50% drawdowns (as previously highlighted by 'Reformed Trader'), which he frames as a feature of investing in the name, not a bug.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:49

    Anpanman's own portfolio was at an all-time high in January but is now roughly flat to slightly down for the year; he says he's been through this cycle multiple times and is mentally prepared for it, citing the FCC full-constellation approval, Block 2 production, and the upcoming full launch campaign as reasons for confidence despite the drawdown.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:10:49

    Anpanman recommends revisiting his pinned 'Catalyst Tracker' (which he updates periodically) during difficult sentiment periods to review milestones achieved and upcoming catalysts.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:49

    Anpanman advises investors not to be overleveraged or trade on margin during periods of high uncertainty, calling it the quickest way to financial ruin, and suggests taking breaks (yard work, family time) during difficult sentiment stretches.

Watch Items9

  • AST SpaceMobile Q1 2026 earnings call, including production/shipping update on the next BlueBird batch

    The Monday following this May 5, 2026 episode Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Shipment of the next batch of three BlueBird satellites

    Approximately 30 days from company's prior guidance, roughly a week after earnings Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Falcon 9 launch of next BlueBird batch (BB8-10)

    Expected June 2026, after ~3-4 weeks of Falcon 9 integration Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Second BlueBird batch launch (BB11-13)

    Late June or early July 2026 Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Third BlueBird batch launch (BB14-16)

    August 2026 Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Blue Origin New Glenn return to operations, pending FAA mishap investigation conclusion

    Skeptics estimate several months (aggressive case ~60-70 days); Anpanman thinks it could be sooner Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Bloomberg feature article on the 'SpaceMob' investor community

    Friday, May 8, 2026 Anpanman 00:10:49
  • SpaceX IPO

    Expected in the next few weeks Anpanman 00:00:27
  • First fully loaded Blue Origin New Glenn launch of BlueBirds

    After the June-August Falcon 9 batches Anpanman 00:10:49

Open Questions6

  • Will the next BlueBird batch ship on the targeted ~30-day timeline, or will it be pulled forward or delayed?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will Blue Origin's New Glenn return to operations sooner than the market's 60-70 day aggressive estimate?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will AST reach its stretch goal of approximately 45 satellites in orbit this year, or fall short (e.g., 35-40)?

    Anpanman 00:10:49
  • Will the company provide an earnings update on the approximately $1.1 billion contracted revenue backlog, including Golden Dome-related work?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will there be updates on new MNO definitive commercial agreements at earnings?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Can the company sustain a consistent production cadence of 6 or more satellites per month going forward, and can it scale further to 8 or 10 per month with additional floor space?

    Anpanman 00:10:49
2026-05-04 1:02:32

Kook's Weekly - May 3 - Uncorking the AST SpaceMobile Production Line

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' episode, Kook addresses the recent sharp ASTS stock decline and online hostility toward the SpaceMob community, then previews next week's earnings call.

He argues the shipment of the next batch of three satellites ('3 till infinity') will signal that AST SpaceMobile's manufacturing bottleneck has been uncorked. He reframes the company's history of guidance misses as the byproduct of simultaneously inventing new satellite technology and building a world-class factory rather than a sign of competitive failure.

Kook also runs through a wide set of supporting threads: the AST proxy statement's compensation structure, a newly surfaced SES ground-station partnership, Golden Dome defense momentum, MNO commentary on AI infrastructure and SpaceX, and the upcoming Russell index reconstitution. Anpanman joins the call partway through but stays muted throughout.

The headline conclusion is that despite a brutal week of sentiment and an all-time-high short interest, Kook believes the setup (technical and fundamental) is coiled for a strong second half of 2026 once the production ramp and monetization visibility show up on the earnings call.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook devoted this solo episode to reframing the recent sharp ASTS stock decline and online hostility toward the SpaceMob community ahead of next week's earnings call.
  • Kook's central framework, which he calls '3 till infinity,' is that once AST SpaceMobile ships its next batch of three satellites, it will demonstrate the manufacturing bottleneck has been solved and production can scale continuously from there.
  • Next week's ASTS earnings call will need to address the already-known loss of BlueBird 7, but Kook expects high visibility into the next satellite shipment and possibly new military contract developments.
  • Kook argues AST SpaceMobile's history of missing guidance is fundamentally different from a Blockbuster- or Chegg-style guidance miss caused by competitive disruption, because AST is simultaneously inventing new satellite technology and building a brand-new factory to produce it.
  • An SES (European satellite company) annual report and an expert-network call revealed a previously unannounced partnership in which SES would provide AST SpaceMobile ground infrastructure — teleports, gateways, fiber backhaul, and regulatory landing rights — effectively selling AST 'gateway as a service'; AST has not officially confirmed this.
  • AST SpaceMobile's proxy statement shows CEO Abel Avellan takes no salary and executives such as President Scott Wisniewski (cited at a $250,000 base salary) are compensated primarily in stock, which Kook cites as evidence of founder/management-shareholder alignment.
  • Kook frames AST SpaceMobile as building one of the largest satellite manufacturers by tonnage in the world, comparing the buildout to a 'Manhattan Project' for satellite manufacturing and to Ken Griffin's build-out of Citadel's trading infrastructure.
  • Kook cites a Tsinghua University study finding SpaceX Starlink's direct-to-cell service has significant reliability and dropped-call problems, arguing this reflects an early, not-yet-'killer app' phase of the direct-to-device market rather than a lack of underlying demand.
  • General Mike Guetlein described the Golden Dome missile-defense program as 'real,' underway, on schedule and budget, with classified architecture design complete and contracts being awarded; Kook hopes AST will win related contracts (including a mentioned ~$140 million Department of War radar-system contract) but stresses this is unconfirmed for AST specifically.
  • AT&T's John Stankey publicly stated SpaceX will not become an MVNO on AT&T's network if AT&T has anything to do with it, which Kook cites as evidence that MNO control of spectrum is a structural check on SpaceX and Amazon relative to AST's MNO-partnered model.
  • Kook notes the Russell index reconstitution running into late June could create an estimated ~10 million shares of buy-side demand (his own rough, unverified estimate), occurring alongside an all-time-high short interest position (around 64 million shares per Anpanman) that is being partly offset by convertible-note holders covering their delta hedges.

Detailed Discussion13 topics

Market Sentiment, Online Hostility, and Stock Volatility

4
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook opens by addressing accusations from online critics that he, Anpanman, and 'Katzy' are scammers, pumpers, and retail predators, telling listeners to assume anything read on the internet is true and to instead judge the cited research and diligence for themselves.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook compares the intensity of hatred directed at AST SpaceMobile and founder Abel Avellan to the hostility historically directed at Elon Musk/Tesla, framing it as a pattern of resentment toward 'visionary founders,' and contrasts AST's third-party-validated technical progress with unsubstantiated comparisons bears make to failed companies like Nikola.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook describes the prior week's stock decline as personally difficult ('last week sucked'), noting visible burnout and capitulation across the SpaceMob community, but frames this as a recurring pattern near cycle bottoms, contrasting it with prior run-ups to roughly $130 that he says historically marked local tops.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook lays out a 'tiered buyer' framework borrowed from oil & gas NAV analysis (1P vs. 3P reserves): the most knowledgeable, highest-conviction holders (who already own the stock) provide little incremental buying support on the way down, while more conservative, generalist buyers using a stricter NAV floor — which Kook pegs at roughly $50 as a hypothetical downside support level — are what ultimately sets a bottom.

Preview of Next Week's Earnings Call and '3 Till Infinity'

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:06:04

    Kook confirms that ASTS earnings are next week (the week following this episode), and says the call will have to address the already-known failure of BlueBird 7 to reach a stable orbit.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:04

    Kook's key framework for the call is 'batch shipment number 1' and what he calls '3 till infinity': once the next batch of three satellites ships, he believes it will demonstrate the production line's manufacturing bottleneck has been uncorked, enabling continuous output from there.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:04

    Kook expects the earnings call to provide either an actual next shipment or at least high visibility into it, which he believes will be an important signal for long-term investors about the pace of the business into the second half of 2026, along with possible developments on military contracts.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:04

    Kook characterizes the setup heading into earnings as: all-time-high short interest, acutely negative investor sentiment, and implied/realized volatility sitting near lows just before what he expects to be a large catalyst.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:04

    Kook notes AT&T recently posted supportive commentary about AST SpaceMobile on X, which he connects to his prior week's 'forensic analysis' of AT&T CEO John Stankey's earnings-call comments — arguing Stankey's statements about SpaceX/Amazon alternatives actually revealed that AT&T cannot afford for AST to fail because it depends heavily on AST and has no timeline for other services.

Reframing Guidance Misses: Manufacturing Buildout vs. Competitive Failure

3
  • Kook Disagreement 00:06:04

    Responding to a bear (X user @StefanPoo13) who argued AST 'grew the valuation by setting unrealistic expectations, not by delivering what they guided for,' Kook disagrees, arguing that the company has in fact delivered on the substantive milestones that mattered — working satellites, MNO partnerships, FCC rule-making in its favor, global hiring, launch contracts, owned spectrum, and Golden Dome/defense involvement — even if specific guidance dates slipped.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:04

    Kook argues that a guidance miss caused by competitive disruption (e.g., Chegg missing guidance because of ChatGPT, or a hypothetical Blockbuster-style miss due to Netflix) is fundamentally different from a miss caused by attempting something unprecedented, citing Tesla's early guidance misses while commercializing EVs and SpaceX's Starship schedule slips as comparable 'innovation misses' rather than failures.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:04

    Kook's framing is that AST SpaceMobile is simultaneously inventing new satellite technology and building the physical factory to manufacture it — two very hard things at once — so missed guidance during that buildout should be judged differently than a mature company missing guidance due to competitors like Starlink or Kuiper, which he says are also running behind.

Katzy's Spectrum/Waveform Thesis Vindicated

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:22:27

    Kook says AST SpaceMobile is using techniques that let it run different waveforms (e.g., radar-type versus communications-type signals) on the same spectrum without interference, which he frames as a significant monetization opportunity for the company's spectrum holdings.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:27

    Kook recounts that community member 'Katzy' first raised these spectrum/waveform and non-communications use-case theories roughly three years ago (when the SpaceMob was only about six people) and was mocked, including by analyst Tim Farrar, but says Katzy's FCC/ITU-filing-based research has since proven correct.

AST Proxy Statement and Executive Compensation

3
  • Kook Untagged 00:22:27

    Kook notes AST SpaceMobile does not pay its executives large cash salaries and jokes that the only 'payment' he personally receives is an XL t-shirt that doesn't fit him.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:22:27

    Per the proxy statement, CEO Abel Avellan takes $0 in salary and only recently received a stock award, while President Scott Wisniewski is cited with a $250,000 base salary (below typical investment-banking senior-managing-director pay) and COO Shanti Gupta is compared to partner-level pay at a Big 3 accounting firm — with the bulk of executive compensation coming in the form of stock.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:27

    Kook argues Abel Avellan taking $0 salary and being compensated the same way as shareholders (via stock) is, along with Katzy's existence, one of the two most important pillars of his investment thesis, framing it as proof that 'incentives drive outcomes' and Avellan's incentive is to make the stock go up.

Hiring and Manufacturing Infrastructure as a Moat

4
  • Kook Confirmed 00:22:27

    Kook notes AST SpaceMobile's job postings have grown to over 200 open roles, which he cites as evidence the company continues to scale headcount to support production.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:27

    Kook compares AST SpaceMobile's manufacturing buildout to Ken Griffin's build-out of Citadel/Citadel Securities' infrastructure (calling Griffin an 'S-class' business tactician), arguing the real value AST is creating is not just satellites but the physical infrastructure to build satellites at scale.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:27

    Kook argues the broader macro shift from 'software eats the world' toward physical manufacturing (missiles, ships, EV batteries, humanoid robotics, chips, data centers) favors AST, which he says is building the global infrastructure to become one of the largest satellite manufacturers by tonnage in the world.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:27

    Kook references a 28-minute SpaceX video about Starship's manufacturing/test facilities as inspiration, comparing AST's dual challenge — designing cutting-edge satellite technology and simultaneously designing/building the physical plant to manufacture it — to a 'Manhattan Project' for satellite manufacturing, and argues Blue Origin is one of the few peers with comparable capital/scale to replicate this kind of physical buildout.

SES Ground-Station Partnership (Newly Surfaced)

2
  • Kook Rumor 00:22:27

    Kook says a previously unannounced ground-infrastructure partnership between AST SpaceMobile and SES (a European satellite company) surfaced via SES's own annual report and was further detailed in an expert-network call; AST itself has not officially announced this, so Kook flags it as not yet public/confirmed by the company.

  • Kook Rumor 00:22:27

    Per the expert call, SES would provide AST SpaceMobile ground infrastructure — teleports, gateways, fiber backhaul, and local regulatory landing rights — needed to bring AST's satellite signal down to Earth and connect it into terrestrial networks, effectively selling AST 'gateway as a service' that AST then passes through to its MNO partners.

Bear Case on Launch Cadence — Rebuttal

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:35:33

    Kook characterizes the current dominant bear argument as simply 'ASTS is not launching satellites fast enough,' and argues this thesis is fragile because it could be invalidated quickly — e.g., if there are four successive SpaceX launches of three BlueBirds each, if the FAA grants an expedited launch approval for New Glenn, or if AST has an undisclosed relationship with the government's NSSL launch program.

  • Kook Speculation 00:35:33

    Kook paraphrases (mockingly) the short-seller thesis he's heard on expert-network calls as being narrowly focused on launch risk — whether SpaceX or Blue Origin would actually honor launch contracts for a competing satellite company — and says this is the primary basis he's seen for short positioning.

FCC and Spectrum Regulatory Tailwinds

2
  • Kook Untagged 00:35:33

    Kook cites FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's public comments framing satellite direct-to-device connectivity as a major upgrade competitive with fiber, and says the FCC is actively paving the way for LEO/D2C by allowing more power and repurposing spectrum for this use, which benefits both SpaceX and AST SpaceMobile.

  • Kook Speculation 00:35:33

    Kook speculates that additional 'stranded' spectrum — citing Ligado, Grain Management, and potentially SiriusXM — could be repurposed and approved for direct-to-device use, which would represent additional spectrum capacity for AST's satellites to process and monetize.

Demand-Side Validation: Starlink Reliability Study, 'Direct to Cow,' and AI Infrastructure

5
  • Kook Speculation 00:35:33

    Kook cites a Tsinghua University study that tested Starlink's direct-to-cell service (including WhatsApp) and found significant dropped calls and poor reliability, arguing this explains weak current demand but doesn't necessarily mean the broader direct-to-device market lacks potential, drawing an analogy to early PCs and cell phones before their 'killer app' moments.

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook highlights a SpaceX 'direct to cow' use case — a rancher using SpaceX connectivity for smart cattle collars to remove the need for cell towers or on-ranch infrastructure — citing roughly 86 million head of cattle in the relevant context as an example of an unanticipated demand driver for direct-to-device technology.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:41:41

    Kook cites Verizon's earnings-call comments that it is in deep talks with hyperscalers, cloud providers, and large enterprises to use its fiber and 5G assets for AI infrastructure, with Verizon citing a potential multi-billion-dollar revenue opportunity and saying more details could come in 3 to 6 months; Kook frames AST SpaceMobile as an AI-infrastructure play because connectivity is required wherever AI compute needs to communicate.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:41:41

    Kook cites Amazon president Andy Jassy's comments that customers and enterprises increasingly dislike any connectivity gaps (even in metropolitan areas, highways, hiking, or skiing) and that this was the impetus for Amazon's acquisition of Globalstar, which holds scarce global spectrum needed for direct-to-device service.

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook argues AST SpaceMobile's core platform advantage is generating the most power in orbit, with RF/telecom signals as the first monetization use case and AI compute or power-beaming as potential future uses, drawing an analogy to Iceland's cheap hydro power leading it into aluminum smelting.

Golden Dome and Defense Contracts

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:41:41

    Kook cites General Mike Guetlein stating that the Golden Dome missile-defense program is 'real,' 'no longer theoretical,' 'shovel ready,' on schedule and on budget, with classified architecture design completed, contracts awarded, and site analysis/visits underway.

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook mentions a roughly $140 million Department of War contract as part of a radar system that surfaced this week, saying 'we'll see if that goes through us' — explicitly flagging this as hoped-for rather than confirmed to involve AST SpaceMobile.

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook references a recent approval for using spectrum over the ocean, which he says has obvious military use cases, as another positive data point for AST's defense-related positioning; he says he has real (but unconfirmed) expectations of near-term military contract awards, possibly around the earnings call.

Competitive Landscape: AT&T vs. SpaceX, OpenAI's Phone Ambitions, and Musk's Incentives

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:41:41

    Kook cites an article quoting AT&T's John Stankey stating SpaceX will not become an MVNO on AT&T's network if AT&T can help it, framing this as confirmation that MNOs view SpaceX as a competitive threat and that AST SpaceMobile's carrier-neutral, MNO-partnered model avoids that direct conflict.

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook argues that because SpaceX and Amazon do not have enough of their own spectrum to pursue an ambitious direct-to-device build-out, while AST SpaceMobile operates in partnership with MNOs who control the terrestrial spectrum, this creates a structural check-and-balance in AST's favor.

  • Kook Rumor 00:41:41

    Kook notes reports that OpenAI (Sam Altman) is building a phone intended to replace the iPhone, using this as further evidence that any AI-connected hardware will ultimately depend on spectrum access, which he calls 'the critical path item of humanity.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook details Elon Musk's SpaceX incentive-compensation structure: roughly 200 million supervoting shares tied to SpaceX reaching a $7.5 trillion valuation AND establishing a permanent Mars colony of at least 1 million people, plus an additional roughly 60 million shares tied to valuation targets and operating space-based data centers delivering 100 terawatts of compute — noting neither incentive trigger references direct-to-device or a phone product, and using this to argue Musk's real strategic focus (including the Cursor acquisition) is Mars colonization and AI data centers rather than the D2C/phone business.

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook notes Starlink has been cutting prices, which he interprets as a sign it has exhausted the premium tier of willing payers at its current price point and must expand its addressable market by lowering price.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:41:41

    Kook cites a report that Meta is looking to power AI data centers with solar energy collected in space, noting that Google and Amazon have made similar space/AI-power statements, which he argues reinforces the strategic value of AST SpaceMobile's power-generation-in-orbit platform.

Technical Trading Setup: Russell Reconstitution and Short Interest

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  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook flags the upcoming Russell index reconstitution as a technical event, estimating (by his own admission, a rough/unverified AI-assisted calculation he has not personally checked) roughly 10 million shares of incremental buy-side demand into the end of June.

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook recalls that a similar Russell rebalance benefited the stock during a prior rally (which he associates with 'Block 1'), but that the effect was offset at the time by the company selling shares into strength via its ATM program; he says this time it does not look like AST is currently in the market raising money on strength, given it recently completed a convertible-notes offering.

  • Kook Speculation 00:41:41

    Kook notes Anpanman's data point that short interest sits at an all-time high of almost 64 million shares, with convertible-note holders covering their hedges (due to lower delta) partly offsetting the record shorting, and frames the combination as setting up for a potential short squeeze.

Watch Items4

  • ASTS quarterly earnings call — needs to address the confirmed loss of BlueBird 7 and provide visibility into the next satellite shipment ('batch shipment number 1') and possible military contract updates

    next week (the week following this May 3/4, 2026 episode) Kook 00:06:04
  • Shipment of the next batch of three Block 2 BlueBird satellites — Kook's '3 till infinity' signal that the manufacturing bottleneck has been uncorked

    expected imminently, discussed heading into the earnings call Kook 00:06:04
  • Russell index reconstitution — estimated ~10 million shares of incremental technical buy-side demand

    into the end of June Kook 00:41:41
  • Potential Golden Dome / Department of War contract awards for AST SpaceMobile, including a mentioned ~$140 million radar-system contract

    near-term, possibly around the earnings call Kook 00:41:41

Open Questions4

  • Will AST SpaceMobile actually secure near-term Golden Dome or Department of War contract awards (including the ~$140 million radar-system contract mentioned this week), or will those go to other companies?

    Kook 00:41:41
  • Will launch cadence accelerate enough to invalidate the dominant bear thesis — e.g., via multiple successive SpaceX launches of three BlueBirds each, an expedited FAA approval for New Glenn, or an undisclosed NSSL relationship?

    Kook 00:35:33
  • Will there be sufficient real-world monetization and end-customer demand once satellites, regulatory approval, and ground infrastructure are all in place, or is the emerging 'no market' bear narrative correct?

    Kook 00:35:33
  • What is Elon Musk's actual strategic priority for SpaceX — Mars colonization, AI data centers, or direct-to-device — given that his disclosed incentive-compensation triggers do not appear to reward a D2C/phone outcome?

    Kook 00:41:41
2026-05-04 54:27

Anpanman - Spectrum Alchemy: Decoding AST SpaceMobile's 10x Performance Patent

Anpanman

In this solo episode, Anpanman does a technical deep dive on AST SpaceMobile's newly published spectral-efficiency patent. He explains how dynamic polarization and 'transparent switching,' enabled by AST's very large phased-array satellites, underpin Abel Avellan's claim of a near-term 3x and longer-term 10x improvement in throughput per megahertz.

He extends this into a 'spectrum alchemy' valuation thesis for AST's Ligado L-band position, walks through the Viasat litigation history, and argues AT&T/Verizon's cooperative model is strategically superior to T-Mobile's Starlink partnership.

The headline conclusion is that AST's efficiency gains and unmatched phased-array scale make it very difficult for Starlink, Amazon/Kuiper, or Globalstar to catch up. He argues the same gains unlock billions in additional spectrum value and make markets like Saudi Arabia/the Middle East especially lucrative.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's newly published patent details dynamic polarization and 'transparent switching' techniques that Anpanman says underlie Abel Avellan's claim (first made on a Q4 earnings call) of a near-term 3x and longer-term 10x improvement in spectral efficiency.
  • Anpanman estimates AST currently operates around 3-4 bits per hertz of spectral efficiency (based on ~120 Mbps over an assumed 40 MHz), versus roughly 7-9 bits/hertz for the best terrestrial cell towers and only 1-2 bits/hertz for traditional satellite systems.
  • The dynamic polarization technique effectively lets AST transmit two channels on the same frequency by rapidly switching polarization in bursts (unlike terrestrial systems' fixed physical dual-antenna polarization), which Anpanman says can roughly double effective capacity; this is only possible because of AST's very large phased-array antennas.
  • Anpanman recounts that at the Bluebird 7 launch, Abel Avellan disclosed for the first time that the network was achieving over 160 Mbps, up from the previously cited ~120 Mbps baseline.
  • Anpanman calculates that a conservative 3x efficiency gain (turning an effective 50 MHz into 150 MHz of usable capacity) could be worth roughly $13.6 billion in the US market alone at a rough $0.40-per-MHz-pop valuation, layered on top of existing $15-20 billion sum-of-the-parts estimates for AST's Ligado L-band spectrum rights.
  • Phased-array size is the key enabler: Block 1 Bluebirds are roughly 8x8 meters and Block 2 are 15x15 meters, and Anpanman speculates future blocks could grow to 20x20 or 25x25 meters, versus Starlink's current ~2.5x2.5 meter V1 array and a targeted ~5x5 meter V2 array.
  • Anpanman argues T-Mobile's partnership with SpaceX's Starlink Direct to Cell service was a historic strategic error ('breathing a competitor into existence'), contrasting it with AT&T's and Verizon's cooperative model of treating AST as an additive capacity layer rather than a competitive threat.
  • AST holds roughly 3,800 patents and pending patent claims; Anpanman speculates these could eventually be monetized via licensing/royalties (citing potential overlap with AI data-center companies like StarCloud) or used defensively against direct-to-device competitors, though he says AST's monetization strategy is unclear.
  • Anpanman highlights the Middle East, especially the Saudi Telecom (stc) partnership, as potentially the company's most lucrative market given vast arid terrain, dense population centers, and high per-capita willingness to pay for connectivity, making satellite coverage more cost-effective than building out terrestrial towers.
  • Near-term catalysts flagged: an AST quarterly/company update expected the following week, possible Block 2 Bluebird shipping news within one to two weeks, and the first three batches of Block 2 Bluebirds expected to launch on Falcon 9 around June through August.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

The spectral-efficiency patent and the 3x/10x claim

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    AST filed a patent (believed filed last year but only published this year, possibly due to confidentiality) that reveals techniques Abel Avellan and the company plan to use to optimize spectrum; this follows Abel first talking on the Q4 earnings call about near-term 3x performance gains, presumably measured against the previously cited ~120 Mbps at an assumed 40 MHz of spectrum (roughly 3 bits/hertz).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Terrestrial cell towers achieve roughly 7 to 9 bits per hertz of spectral efficiency; traditional satellite systems typically achieve only 1 to 2 bits per hertz; AST is currently around 3 to 4 bits per hertz.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:13

    Terrestrial systems achieve dual polarization physically, using two antennas at 45-degree angles (one vertical, one horizontal); AST's very large phased array instead does this dynamically, transmitting effectively two channels on the same frequency to a phone in a burst manner (since a phone's orientation constantly changes), roughly doubling the 'highway lanes' of communication — something Abel referenced conceptually (MIMO and other optimization techniques) back in 2017-2018.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:13

    The near-term 3x claim likely comes from polarization-transparent switching plus better scheduling; the longer-term 10x claim is likely tied to the AST5000 chip and AI dynamically optimizing polarization, beams, time/frequency resources, power, MCS, and interference across the constellation, allowing the same spectrum to carry far more traffic — echoing prior company comments that 3GPP protocols are inefficient and can be optimized for more performance.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:13

    Using an AI-derived breakdown, Anpanman lists prospective efficiency multiplier stack components: polarization mismatch recovery (1.5x-3x), better MCS/higher signal-to-noise ratio (1.5x-3x), better user grouping and scheduling (1.2x-2x), more aggressive frequency reuse (2x-4x), better beamforming and power optimization (1.2x-2x), and ASIC/software/RAN maturity gains (1.5x-3x).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:13

    Anpanman compares this to SpaceX's Falcon 9 development curve, where early engine iterations were far less optimized than later versions, arguing AST will see similar incremental step-function improvements over time.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:03:13

    Anpanman recalls that at the Bluebird 7 launch that morning, Abel Avellan disclosed for the first time that the network was achieving over 160 Mbps performance, a notable improvement over the previously cited 120 Mbps.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:13

    Anpanman speculates that as spectral efficiency proves out, AT&T and Verizon could eventually dedicate more low-band spectrum fully to satellite service, or widen an entire regional band (e.g. 5x5 or 10x10 MHz) as an additional capacity layer, once consumers demonstrate the experience works.

Why a massive phased array is required

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:46

    Achieving this level of dynamic polarization/spectral efficiency requires a very large phased array with many antenna elements; Starlink, by contrast, uses circular polarization (not the same technique) and has smaller phased arrays, lacks precise cell-beamforming, and uses a regenerative architecture, so it cannot derive the same efficiency benefits until a future satellite generation.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:10:46

    Because Starlink can't put down precise individual cell beams, T-Mobile had to give it an entire contiguous 5x5 MHz block of PCS-G spectrum for the service to work; a former Starlink head of growth reportedly described the resulting product as 'shitty.'

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:12:31

    The original AST design plan was a 30x30 meter phased array; Block 1 Bluebirds ended up roughly 8x8 meters, Block 2 Bluebirds are 15x15 meters, and Anpanman speculates future blocks could grow to 20x20 or 25x25 meters, or even group multiple satellites together for combined beamforming — heard partly from a secondhand conversation someone else had with an AST employee at the Bluebird 7 launch bus ride.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:31

    By comparison, Starlink's V1 array is about 2.5x2.5 meters and its V2 array is targeted at about 5x5 meters, versus AST's current 15x15 meters — illustrating AST's scale advantage.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Legacy/narrowband direct-to-device players who buy a satellite constellation off-the-shelf from a prime contractor may achieve narrowband/IoT service, but full broadband requires proprietary in-house innovation that Anpanman believes only AST currently has.

Spectrum alchemy: valuing L-band, Ligado, and mid-band spectrum

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:42

    Anpanman describes 'spectrum alchemy': L-band spectrum (historically contested because GPS, the military, and others opposed terrestrial use — as seen with LightSquared's failed terrestrial buildout attempt) is unlocked in value once used from satellite-to-device, which AST's large-aperture satellites can do without interfering with adjacent spectrum, restoring the spectrum's 'original intent.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:42

    AST's Ligado L-band spectrum position (roughly 45 MHz for ~80 years) could be valued today at $15 to $20 billion in a sum-of-the-parts analysis, according to Anpanman, before layering in efficiency-driven upside.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Using rough spectrum valuation math (roughly $0.10-$2 per MHz-pop depending on quality, times ~340 million US population), Anpanman calculates that if AST's efficiency gains effectively turn 50 MHz of spectrum into 150 MHz of usable capacity (a 3x gain, not the full 10x), at roughly $0.40 per MHz-pop that additional 100 MHz of effective capacity would be worth about $13.6 billion in the US market alone.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    AST's mid-band/Ligado spectrum gives it 45 MHz of nationwide coverage across the US and Canada, which Anpanman argues is powerful because carriers could pay AST to offload traffic during peak terrestrial congestion, an additional revenue stream beyond per-subscriber usage that he says is not built into most valuation models.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    There is also 20x20 MHz of S-band spectrum 'up for grabs' that was not part of the FCC's constellation/SCS order, which Anpanman flags as another spectrum asset in play.

Viasat, Ligado litigation, and Stewart Taylor

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:46

    Viasat initially supported the Ligado-AST spectrum deal but later became litigious trying to block it, and has 'largely failed,' according to Anpanman, with a judge slapping down its attempts.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman states AST agreed to pay Ligado roughly $420 million (a figure he presents somewhat uncertainly) to cover what Ligado owed Viasat as part of making the L-band spectrum contiguous — he flags this as separate from, and roughly consistent with, AST's broader deal terms, though the company's disclosed contingent payment to Ligado has been reported elsewhere as approximately $550 million with about $535 million flowing to Inmarsat/Viasat.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman argues Viasat's stock re-rated because AST's deal effectively rescued it from potential bankruptcy (its core airline broadband business is also losing ground to Starlink), and speculates Viasat may be 'worth more dead than alive' due to its L-band spectrum rights, with shareholders hoping management leases or sells spectrum to AST rather than building its own constellation; he calls the idea of an AST-Viasat merger 'silly' and unlikely.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman singles out satellite consultant Stewart Taylor as a biased critic of AST — noting Taylor previously held Viasat shares, publicly stated he knows Viasat CEO Mark Dankberg personally, and had predicted (three years ago) that Viasat would become a major direct-to-device player; Taylor's public criticism of AST intensified once Viasat became litigious, which Anpanman says undermines his claimed independence.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Because of its contracts with Ligado, AST believes it retains the ability to pursue L-band spectrum rights globally (outside North America) as well, provided it coordinates with Viasat to avoid interference, and Anpanman speculates Viasat may eventually work out a deal with AST for the rest of global L-band given the difficulty of funding an independent constellation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman notes Viasat has talked about deploying ex-US L-band spectrum for direct-to-device with two other partners, capitalized at $1 billion, which he says is 'not nearly enough money' to build a competitive constellation, especially via a prime contractor.

Competitive dynamics: T-Mobile/Starlink vs. AT&T/Verizon, plus Amazon and Globalstar

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman argues T-Mobile's Starlink Direct to Cell partnership was a historic strategic error ('breathing a competitor into existence'), predicting it will become a Harvard Business School case study, since Starlink now knows exactly where T-Mobile's coverage gaps and customer pain points are and could use that data to sell a competing mobile service.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:12:32

    Anpanman contrasts this with AT&T's and Verizon's cooperative approach — treating AST as an additive capacity layer rather than a competitive threat — which he argues is the superior long-term strategy, and notes MNOs 'own the customer' and control low-band spectrum they will never willingly hand to a would-be competitor like Starlink.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:12:32

    Anpanman rebuts a bear argument that AST made a 'tactical mistake' by partnering with MNOs instead of competing directly with them, arguing MNOs already own the customer base and low-band spectrum, so a cooperative model sharing upside is the only viable path, and that this dependency is mutual since AST's service is deeply integrated into carriers' network cores.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman speculates that if Elon Musk/SpaceX ever bought a carrier like T-Mobile outright to fully enter the retail wireless business, it would push AT&T, Verizon, and other global carriers to integrate even more closely with AST as a competitive response.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    On Amazon's Kuiper/D2D ambitions: Amazon is leasing Globalstar's existing constellation (plus 17 more Globalstar satellites) for roughly the next four years, then will move to MDA Space's Aurora satellites (aiming to launch around 50), before eventually building and launching a fully proprietary satellite (Anpanman guesses around 2030-2031) — by which point he estimates AST will be on roughly its fourth satellite generation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman notes Amazon's recent earnings call stated it wants to provide 100% customer connectivity and bought Globalstar mainly for its spectrum value, without yet detailing satellites or service deployment plans; he speculates AST and Amazon could eventually cooperate if MNOs approved lighting up Amazon's spectrum with AST's technology, but says this is unlikely without MNO buy-in.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:12:32

    Starlink's fixed-wireless experience (beaming to a dish) is a very different technical proposition from AST's unmodified-phone service, and Starlink's mobile product requires a special chip on the phone side; a former Starlink employee reportedly described current mobile performance as 'shitty.'

Spectrum economics, pricing, and low-band importance

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman frames satellite connectivity pricing as effectively 'insurance' for the time consumers are away from Wi-Fi, arguing an extra 5-10% on a phone bill for guaranteed connectivity is reasonable given that most usage (he estimates 90-95%) already occurs on Wi-Fi.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman recounts how T-Mobile historically lacked low-band spectrum (relying only on mid-band), resulting in poor indoor/rural/subway coverage, until it acquired 600 MHz spectrum via FCC auction after merging with Sprint, dramatically improving its network — used as an example of why low-band spectrum ('the fundamental part of AST's service') is so valuable, and why Verizon's and AT&T's low-band holdings drove their historical subscriber advantage (referencing Verizon's 'can you hear me now' campaign).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman contrasts AST's low-band-based service with MSS/mid-band-only competitors like Starlink (1.9 GHz) and Globalstar (2.4 GHz), arguing their smaller apertures and lack of true low-band spectrum mean worse propagation, slower speeds, and packet loss.

Middle East market and Saudi Telecom (stc)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman highlights the Middle East, and specifically the Saudi Telecom (stc) partnership — described as AST's largest partnership by financial commitment — as a potentially very lucrative market because of vast arid land combined with dense population centers, making satellite coverage far more efficient than building thousands of terrestrial towers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman speculates that Middle Eastern consumers' relatively high willingness/ability to pay for connectivity (he cites $15-$20/month as an easy add-on for many customers) could make the region a high-margin market relative to the limited satellite capacity needed to serve it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman extends the same logic to other large-landmass, dense-population regions such as Africa, Latin America, and parts of Asia, where terrestrial tower buildout for full geographic coverage is prohibitively expensive.

Patent portfolio and monetization

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:12:32

    The spectral-efficiency patent discussed is just one of roughly 3,800 patents and pending patent claims AST holds (with some overlap among them); Anpanman says the company reveals only glimpses of its full technology roadmap through patents, management conversations, and earnings calls.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman notes AST has not historically been litigious with its patents, and speculates the company could use its portfolio either offensively (blocking competitors from replicating its techniques) or cooperatively (licensing fundamental patents for royalty/licensing revenue, similar to memory-chip companies), including patents related to heat dissipation ('Microns') and solar-array power generation relevant to AI data centers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:32

    Anpanman cites StarCloud, an AI data-center company that reportedly raised at roughly a $1 billion valuation a month or two prior and is now raising at about a $2 billion valuation, as an example of a company likely to run into AST's existing patents.

Near-term outlook and catalysts

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:14

    AST has a quarterly update scheduled for the following week; Anpanman expects possible news around Block 2 Bluebird shipping within the next week or two, and says things 'seem to be going well.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:14

    Anpanman speculates that Blue Origin's New Glenn 4 could launch sooner than generally expected.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:14

    The first three batches of Block 2 Bluebirds are expected to launch on Falcon 9, with Anpanman estimating a launch window starting as early as June and continuing through July and August; he expects a shipment in the May/June timeframe ahead of a June launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:53:14

    Anpanman closes bullish, saying the stock has been 'consolidating for a really long period' and predicting new all-time highs in the coming weeks and months.

Watch Items4

  • AST SpaceMobile quarterly/company update

    the following week (from episode publish date) Anpanman 00:53:14
  • Possible news on Block 2 Bluebird shipping

    within the next week or two Anpanman 00:53:14
  • First three batches of Block 2 Bluebirds launching on Falcon 9

    expected around June, July, and August Anpanman 00:53:14
  • Blue Origin New Glenn 4 launch

    speculated to launch sooner than generally expected Anpanman 00:53:14

Open Questions5

  • How exactly does AST plan to achieve the claimed 3x near-term and 10x longer-term spectral efficiency gains — what is the specific technical roadmap behind the patent?

    Anpanman 00:12:32
  • How does AST plan to monetize its roughly 3,800 patents and pending claims — through licensing/royalties, defensive blocking of competitors, or some mix?

    Anpanman 00:12:32
  • Will Viasat ultimately reach a commercial arrangement with AST for global (ex-North America) L-band spectrum rather than continuing litigation or attempting its own constellation?

    Anpanman 00:12:32
  • Could Amazon and AST eventually cooperate on lighting up Amazon's Globalstar-derived spectrum with AST's technology, contingent on approval from the mobile network operators?

    Anpanman 00:12:32
  • Will T-Mobile eventually seek to join AST's MNO coalition (alongside AT&T and Verizon) if Starlink Direct to Cell fails to stem T-Mobile's competitive pressure?

    Anpanman 00:12:32
2026-05-01 1:12:04

Anpanman - Sifting Through the FUD and the Path to Orbit

Anpanman · Unidentified guest

In this solo May 1, 2026 episode, Anpanman gives a wide-ranging update on AST SpaceMobile's stock dynamics and operational path.

He covers sector-wide correlation with space peers, a forensic breakdown of short interest, the upcoming Russell 1000 reweighting, and the near-term SpaceX Falcon 9/Blue Origin New Glenn launch manifest following the loss of BlueBird 7.

He argues that record short interest combined with near-record-low volatility sets up ideal conditions for a squeeze similar to 2024 and 2025. He also pushes back on retail complaints about company communications and on recurring bearish commentators.

The headline conclusion: production cadence (reaching and sustaining 6, then 12, satellites/month) matters far more than the ~45-satellite year-end stretch goal, and current negative sentiment is itself a bullish contrarian signal.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman hosted this solo May 1, 2026 episode of the AST SpaceMobile Podcast, covering sector correlation, a forensic short-interest breakdown, the SpaceX/Blue Origin launch manifest, and the FAA investigation into the BlueBird 7 failure.
  • AST SpaceMobile trades in a highly correlated basket (Anpanman cites roughly the 96th percentile correlation) with peers like Rocket Lab, plus Firefly, Intuitive Machines (LUNR) and BlackSky (BKSY); since the BlueBird 7 mishap, AST has underperformed that peer basket by about 10%, even as the whole space sector has sold off from its April highs.
  • After removing shares held by long-term strategics (Class A: Rakuten 15.5M pro forma, Alphabet 8.9M, AT&T 6.3M, Verizon 6.1M, Vodafone 5.5M, ~42.4M total; Class B: Vodafone 9M and American Tower 2.2M; Class C: Abel Avellan 78.2M supervoting shares), Anpanman calculates a tradable float of about 256 million shares out of 388 million total shares outstanding.
  • Real-time short interest is at an all-time high of about 64 million shares; backing out an estimated ~11 million shares tied to convertible-bond arbitrage delta-hedging, Anpanman estimates the 'fundamental' short position at roughly 53 million shares, or about 20.7% of the tradable float.
  • Anpanman compares today's setup (record short interest, near-record-low implied/realized volatility) to 2024 (stock ran from about $3 to a $39 summer high) and May-June 2025 (Russell 1000 addition, a Trump-Musk comment, and the Ligado spectrum deal going definitive), arguing it's primed for a similar squeeze.
  • The Russell 1000's annual Rank Day occurred the day before the episode; a pro forma index-weighting update is expected over the following four weeks, effective by end of May 2026, which Anpanman says could drive incremental buying he speculatively pegs (via a contact's index-arb research) at around 10 million shares.
  • Rakuten is nearly done selling down to half its prior AST stake (retaining ~15.5 million shares), recently selling at roughly 250,000 shares/day; Anpanman estimates only 2-3 million shares remain to be sold.
  • The FAA's mishap investigation into BlueBird 7's New Glenn failure (one of two BE-3U second-stage engines failed to reignite for the circularization burn) is the key near-term catalyst; based on the ~71-day timeline of New Glenn's first mishap investigation, Anpanman guesses this one could close around late June/early July 2026, potentially clearing a return-to-flight commercial cargo mission (likely carrying Amazon LEO satellites) around August 2026.
  • Anpanman expects three SpaceX Falcon 9 launches of three BlueBird satellites each across June, July, and August 2026 (9 satellites total), followed by the first multi-satellite Blue Origin New Glenn launch of 6 satellites around September 2026, supporting the company's stretch goal of approximately 45 total satellites by year-end 2026 -- though he stresses sustained production cadence (6/month, then eventually 12/month) matters more than hitting that exact number.
  • Founder/CEO Abel Avellan has not sold any shares through the stock's full range (roughly $1.30 to $2 to $39 to $130 and back to the $70s-$80s), unlike other executives such as Scott Wisniewski and Andrew Johnson, who have sold portions of their stock-based pay to cover taxes and living costs given the company's modest ~$250,000 cash salaries.
  • Anpanman rejects criticism that management under-communicates, noting the company disclosed the BlueBird 7 loss the same day it happened (around April 19-20, 2026) and announced full FCC constellation/SCS approval on April 22, 2026, with the next quarterly earnings update set for May 11, 2026 (10 days after this episode).

Detailed Discussion16 topics

Sector Beta and Stock Correlation

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    AST SpaceMobile and Rocket Lab trade almost on top of one another; Anpanman says he checked and the correlation between the two is 'in the 96th percentile,' and recommends anyone watching AST also watch Rocket Lab, Firefly, Intuitive Machines (LUNR), and BlackSky (BKSY) since these names increasingly trade as a basket via ETFs and arbitrage flows.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Since Bluebird 7's failure to reach proper orbit, comparing stock returns from April 17 (the Friday before the launch) to now, AST has underperformed the peer sector by roughly 10%, even though the entire space sector has drawn down from its April highs -- meaning day-to-day AST moves are often just sector beta, not fundamental news.

Short Interest Forensic Breakdown

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Total shares outstanding across Class A, B, and C is 388 million. Non-float strategic holdings: Class A strategics total ~42.4 million shares (Rakuten 15.5M pro forma after its sell-down to half its prior stake, Alphabet/Google 8.9M, AT&T 6.3M, Verizon 6.1M, Vodafone 5.5M); Class B has only two holders, Vodafone (9M shares) and American Tower (2.2M shares, after partially monetizing its stake); Class C is entirely Abel Avellan's 78.2 million supervoting shares. Subtracting all of these leaves a tradable float of about 256 million shares.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Real-time short interest is at an all-time high of 64 million shares. Assuming about 80% of convertible bondholders are arbitrageurs trading deltas rather than holding a fundamental view, Anpanman estimates roughly 11 million shares of that short interest is convertible-bond arb-related; subtracting that leaves about 53 million shares, or 20.7% of the 256 million tradable float, as the 'fundamental' or basket short position.

Historical Pattern, Seasonality, and Squeeze Setup

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman compares the current setup to 2024, when high short interest ahead of an unknown catalyst (which turned out to be the Verizon commercial agreement) preceded a rally from about $3 to a summer high of $39; and to May 2025, when short interest was also high before catalysts including the Russell 1000 addition, a Trump comment about moving business away from SpaceX/Elon Musk, and the Ligado spectrum term sheet going definitive kicked off a rally into June.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman describes a recurring seasonal pattern: consolidation in Q1, then things 'get spicy' heading into Q2; this year the expected kickoff (a successful Bluebird 7 deployment) didn't go as planned, but he still sees May/June 2026 as a big setup period given the first, second, and third satellite batch shipments approaching.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Implied volatility is close to an all-time low and realized volatility is also down significantly; combined with all-time-high short interest and low sentiment, Anpanman calls this 'the perfect ingredients' for the stock to explode higher once positive catalysts land.

Russell 1000 Reweighting

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Russell 1000 Rank Day happened the day before this episode (i.e., around April 30, 2026); over the coming four weeks there will be an update on AST's pro forma index weighting, effective by end of May 2026. Since the stock has more than tripled since AST's last Russell 1000 addition, the new weighting should be larger, prompting index funds/ETFs to buy additional shares to track the benchmark.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman says a friend with access to index-arbitrage research suggested the reweighting could drive demand for roughly 10 million incremental AST shares -- explicitly a speculative, third-party estimate, not a firm number.

Rakuten Share Sale

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Rakuten is selling down to roughly half its previous AST stake; per its most recent 13D amendment, it was selling at a pace of about 250,000 shares a day, a rate Anpanman says 'is not going to impact the stock price much.' He estimates Rakuten may have only 2-3 million shares left to sell, and that the sell-down being nearly finished could help sentiment given how much attention it has drawn.

Satellite Production and Batch Shipment Cadence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman frames the upcoming first, second, and third satellite batch shipments as key data points on production cadence -- specifically whether the company has solved the stacking issues that previously slowed production. After satellites are assembled they must go through roughly two weeks of environmental-chamber testing, which can extend timelines if testing surfaces a problem to fix.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Outside of the Bluebird 7 launch failure (attributed to the Blue Origin second stage, not the satellite itself), AST has a 'spotless record' of satellites that build, unfold, and operate successfully once launched.

Blue Origin New Glenn Cadence and Second-Stage Production Plans

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:17:13

    Per a Blue Origin job posting (for an integration specialist for the second-stage booster) and public comments from David Limp, Blue Origin is currently building second-stage boosters at a cadence of 12; the posting reportedly discussed ramping second-stage production to 60 per year by Q3 2028 and 100 per year by 2029.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:13

    Unlike SpaceX's Starship (which aims to reuse both stages), Blue Origin's New Glenn only reuses the first-stage booster; the second stage is expendable. Blue Origin currently has 2 first-stage boosters and is working toward a 30-day refurbishment turnaround (enabling ~2 launches/month), with a third first-stage booster reportedly being brought into rotation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:13

    Anpanman guesses New Glenn will launch 6-8 times total in 2026.

BlueBird 7 Failure and FAA Investigation

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:28:39

    Blue Origin stated the Bluebird 7 failure occurred because one of two BE-3U engines on the second stage did not ignite, preventing the second burn needed to reach circular orbit (the satellite only achieved the initial elliptical orbit). Anpanman explicitly rejects an online rumor that the satellite failed 'because of AST.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:13

    Anpanman notes New Glenn's first mishap investigation (from the earlier New Glenn 1 booster-landing failure) took about 71 days, with the FAA announcing conclusions roughly 2 days after closing it out; Blue Origin identified 7 fix areas at that time. Applying a similar timeline to the Bluebird 7 investigation, he guesses it could close around the end of June or the first week of July 2026, with a possible first commercial cargo launch (likely Amazon LEO satellites, needed for Space Force flight certification) around August 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:13

    Because the mishap resets Blue Origin's Space Force certification clock (requiring 4 consecutive successful flights with real cargo before government payloads can fly again), Blue Origin is precluded from launching government cargo in the interim -- which paradoxically frees up manifest slots for commercial customers like AST once New Glenn returns to flight.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:36:45

    Anpanman dismisses the idea that Blue Origin would want to sabotage AST, arguing the failure hurts Blue Origin's own path to Space Force certification and commercial cargo business, so both companies are aligned on fixing the root cause quickly.

Company Communications Debate

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:17:13

    Anpanman pushes back on investors demanding more frequent company communication, noting the last two updates were the Bluebird 7 loss (disclosed the same day it happened, around April 19-20, 2026) and full FCC constellation/SCS approval on April 22, 2026 -- one major negative and one major positive update within about a week of each other.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:17:13

    The next quarterly earnings update is 10 days away from this episode (i.e., around May 11, 2026); the company is currently in its quiet period, and Anpanman argues there is little new material information it could disclose beyond the already-stated ~30-day batch-shipment timeline.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:17:13

    Anpanman criticizes a Trump administration move toward allowing companies to report only semiannually, calling it 'radical opaqueness' and a bad direction for SEC reporting generally.

SpaceX Falcon 9 Launch Timeline and Fairing FUD

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:17:13

    AST cannot unilaterally disclose SpaceX Falcon 9 launch details because its original 2022 multi-launch agreement with SpaceX (which was 8-K'd) contains a non-disclosure provision preventing announcement until an agreed time close to launch -- explaining why informal launch-tracking sites show two Falcon 9 missions for AST without official company PR.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:13

    Anpanman's estimated timeline: if the first batch ships to Florida around May 19, 2026, with a normal 2-3 week Falcon 9 fairing integration process, that points to a June 2026 launch (though a new satellite design could take longer to integrate).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:13

    Anpanman dismisses bear claims that the satellites don't physically fit inside the Falcon 9 fairing, noting AST engineers have already flown on Falcon 9 twice (BlueWalker 3 and the Block 1 BlueBirds) and have access to SpaceX's detailed payload integration manual.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:13

    Anpanman expects three Falcon 9 launches of three satellites each (9 satellites total) across June, July, and partially August 2026, followed by the first multi-satellite Blue Origin New Glenn launch of 6 satellites around September 2026.

2026 Satellite Count Stretch Goal (~45)

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:17:13

    The company is still targeting approximately 45 satellites launched by the end of 2026 as a 'stretch goal' -- a target Anpanman says is set partly for internal (employee) motivation and partly to signal seriousness to suppliers and to Blue Origin about the need to resolve the second-stage issue quickly.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Anpanman's own math toward 45: 6 satellites already in orbit, plus 9 via three Falcon 9 launches, plus roughly 24 via four assumed Blue Origin launches of 6 satellites each (September-December, contingent on monthly refurbishment cadence) totals about 39; sprinkling in 1-2 more launches could get to 43-45. He stresses this is a stretch goal and that steady month-over-month production cadence (reaching 6/month, then 8, then 12/month) matters more than hitting the exact number.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Anpanman speculates that reaching a 12-satellites-per-month production cadence would let AST stand up a full ~60-satellite mid-band constellation in about 5 months.

Executive Share Sales and Abel Avellan's Holding

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:13

    Abel Avellan has not sold any shares through the stock's full range -- $10, $2, $1.30, and now in the $70s-$80s after touching $130 -- which Anpanman calls unusual for a founder/CEO; he contrasts this with other executives such as Scott Wisniewski and Andrew Johnson, who have sold a portion (not a majority) of their holdings.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:13

    Key executives are paid a modest cash salary (Anpanman cites roughly $250,000/year plus benefits), so selling some stock-based compensation to cover taxes and living costs in an expensive metro area is reasonable and gives executives financial breathing room to focus on the business rather than personal finances.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:13

    Anpanman speculates Abel Avellan may feel a 'shareholder pact' with early individual investors who supported the company, and expects at some point an estate planner or advisor will convince him to monetize some portion (5-20%) of his holdings while retaining substantial ownership -- contrasting this with companies like Palantir where insiders have sold heavily.

Investor Psychology and Volatility Signals

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:13

    Anpanman describes the 'kook bottom' concept -- extreme bearish capitulation among investors as a contrarian bottom signal -- and says he personally has experienced a 40% drawdown on much of his public AST portfolio but has not sold any of his core position, only trading around a smaller peripheral portion (partly to avoid triggering capital gains taxes on the core).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:13

    Anpanman advises investors to check whether the broader space sector (Rocket Lab, Firefly, Intuitive Machines, etc.) is moving in the same direction before reacting emotionally to AST's daily price moves, and cautions that oversized, margin-fueled positions that cause mental distress should be reduced regardless of investment thesis.

Bears and Critics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:56:12

    Anpanman names 'Pivotal Capital,' a hedge-fund-affiliated X account, as a reliable contrarian indicator: previously bearish and 'blown up' on AST, then bearish and blown up on HIMS, now mostly posting about college football but occasionally resurfacing to celebrate AST drawdowns (e.g., around the stock hitting $67-69) right before rebounds.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:56:12

    Anpanman criticizes industry consultants he says use bearish AST commentary for media attention or consulting business, naming Tim Ferrar (an industry analyst frequently quoted in bearish articles) and a newer critic, 'Stuart Taylor,' who Anpanman suspects may be a paid consultant for Viasat given his consistently pro-Viasat posting.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:56:12

    Anpanman references a short report published by a college student that recycled 'old tired tropes' of bear arguments against AST, treating its appearance as itself a sentiment/contrarian signal.

Viasat / Ligado / L-band and S-band Spectrum Dynamics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Anpanman recaps that Viasat sued AST in New York last fall over the Ligado spectrum deal, seeking to unwind it because Ligado was contractually obligated to pay Viasat money AST provided as part of acquiring 80-year L-band spectrum rights; Anpanman states this AST-to-Ligado payment was $420 million, flagged here as an uncertain/possibly imprecise figure given the AST-Ligado deal is otherwise documented at a larger contingent payment amount.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Anpanman argues Viasat's stock re-rated positively as a result of this dynamic, since the market began treating direct-to-device L-band spectrum as valuable, and Viasat itself pivoted from criticizing the D2D market to trying to pursue it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Anpanman interprets a recent FCC order on L- and S-band spectrum as establishing that whoever holds US spectrum rights effectively has a first-right-of-refusal to use that spectrum globally (though the FCC has no direct authority over foreign regulators); he argues this favors AST's ability to pursue L-band globally under its agreement with Viasat (which requires interference coordination but doesn't grant Viasat global L-band rights), and speculates that over the long term it may make economic sense for AST and Viasat to cooperate given AST's control of the most valuable US/Canada L-band market.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    On S-band, Anpanman notes Starlink has rights to a specific 20x20 MHz portion in the US with another 20x20 MHz still contested; he believes AST's path to securing S-band internationally runs through partnering with local MNOs who have regulatory relationships and existing subscribers.

Audience Q&A

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  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Asked about Telus's stake, Anpanman confirms Telus is a strategic investor but there is no public filing yet disclosing its holdings; he speculates Telus likely bought additional shares in the open market, though he's unsure of the entity or share count involved.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Asked whether the next 6-satellite batch (referenced by Abel Avellan on the last earnings call) could go up as a double Falcon 9 batch, Anpanman thinks it's more likely split into two separate batches of 3 sent shortly after one another, partly because SpaceX's integration facility processes many payloads and won't want satellites arriving before they're ready to be processed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Asked when Blue Origin might be clear to fly AST payloads again, Anpanman says it's hard to imagine before September 2026 at the earliest, after which a monthly launch cadence (if booster refurbishment goes well) could resume.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:05:43

    Asked why the AST5000 ASIC isn't yet flying, Anpanman confirms satellites currently use FPGAs (built up to 30 Microns so far) rather than the ASIC, but says he doesn't know exactly why or when the ASIC will be ready; he speculates the ASIC's much higher performance and lower power draw could allow architectural changes (e.g., fewer batteries) that increase per-launch satellite counts (3 to 4 on Falcon 9, 6 to 8 on New Glenn), and suggests this is a good question for management at the upcoming earnings call.

Watch Items9

  • AST SpaceMobile quarterly earnings update

    May 11, 2026 (10 days after this episode) Anpanman 00:17:13
  • Russell 1000 pro forma weighting update following Rank Day

    Over the 4 weeks following Rank Day, effective by end of May 2026 Anpanman 00:00:25
  • First satellite batch shipment to Florida for Falcon 9 integration

    Anpanman's estimate: around May 19, 2026 Anpanman 00:17:13
  • FAA mishap investigation conclusion for the Bluebird 7 / New Glenn failure

    Anpanman's guess: end of June or first week of July 2026 Anpanman 00:17:13
  • Blue Origin New Glenn return-to-flight with first commercial cargo (likely Amazon LEO satellites)

    Anpanman's guess: around August 2026, with AST payloads possible from September 2026 Anpanman 00:17:13
  • Three SpaceX Falcon 9 launches of 3 BlueBirds each

    Anpanman's estimate: June, July, and August 2026 Anpanman 00:17:13
  • First multi-satellite Blue Origin New Glenn launch (6 satellites)

    Anpanman's guess: around September 2026 Anpanman 00:17:13
  • Stretch goal of ~45 total satellites launched

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:17:13
  • Completion of Rakuten's share sell-down

    Estimated 2-3 million shares remaining as of this episode Anpanman 00:00:25

Open Questions5

  • Why isn't the AST5000 ASIC yet integrated into flying satellites, and when will it be ready for production use?

    Anpanman 01:05:43
  • What exactly caused the BE-3U second-stage engine to fail to reignite on the Bluebird 7 mission, and how long will the FAA investigation take?

    Anpanman 00:17:13
  • What will AST's actual pro forma Russell 1000 weighting be, and how many shares of incremental index-driven demand will it generate?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Will the next satellite batch (6 satellites) fly as a single double Falcon 9 batch or as two separate launches of 3?

    Anpanman 01:05:43
  • How is Telus building its AST stake (open-market purchases vs. another mechanism), given no public filing yet discloses its holdings?

    Anpanman 01:05:43