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2026-07-13 39:23

Is AST SpaceMobile a Volcano About to Explode?

Kook

In this solo, self-recorded X Spaces episode (published 2026-07-13), Kook works through his frustration with AST SpaceMobile's sideways-grinding stock price despite a steady stream of positive news.

He frames it through the lens of 'idiosyncratic volatility' — the idea that ASTS trades almost entirely on company-specific catalysts rather than macro forces, making diligent research unusually rewarding. He runs down satellite production progress (BlueBird 11 landing at Cape Canaveral, BlueBird 38 backfilling the production queue) and a new Titusville, Florida warehouse lease.

He also covers three categories of 'alpha' the SpaceMob community surfaced this week: Japan's J.LEO grant decision expected mid-July, a spectral-efficiency breakthrough (98.9 Mbps on a 10 MHz channel), and regulatory developments around Grain Management spectrum and a rumored Ligado-DoD lawsuit settlement.

He closes by arguing that Chris Sambar's move from AT&T-adjacent advocacy to T-Mobile, combined with SpaceX's own guidance conceding the direct-to-consumer market, makes a T-Mobile/AST deal look increasingly likely, though timing remains uncertain.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook, a recurring AST SpaceMobile Podcast host, argues the stock's frustrating sideways/choppy price action reflects extremely high idiosyncratic volatility — ASTS moves almost entirely on company-specific news rather than macro factors (unlike, say, REITs which trade on interest rates), meaning diligent research can capture outsized returns relative to lower-idiosyncratic-vol stocks.
  • Kook described three categories of 'alpha' the SpaceMob research community surfaced this week: contract alpha (Japan's J.LEO sovereign satellite program grant decision expected mid-July), tech alpha (a spectral efficiency test result of 98.9 Mbps on a 10 MHz channel), and regulatory alpha (the Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum timeline and a rumored Ligado-DoD lawsuit settlement).
  • AST SpaceMobile's BlueBird 11 has landed at Cape Canaveral ahead of launch, with BlueBirds 12 and 13 following behind it, while the company has already backfilled its production queue with a new satellite, BlueBird 38, now in assembly at its Midland facility.
  • Kook flagged a new spectral efficiency data point — 98.9 Mbps of throughput on just a 10 MHz channel, implying roughly 10 bits/hertz of peak spectral efficiency — as far above the 2.5-4 bits/hertz he had been using in his financial model, representing a potential large upward revision to how much monetizable bandwidth each satellite can deliver.
  • Kook connected several events he considers unlikely coincidences: the FCC's July 1 approval of a Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum deal tied to T-Mobile, AST's filing of Special Temporary Authority applications on July 2 to test that same spectrum band, and former AT&T executive Chris Sambar's subsequent move to T-Mobile as Chief Enterprise Officer — as circumstantial evidence a T-Mobile/AST deal may be increasingly likely.
  • Kook noted SpaceX has effectively guided to only 1% penetration of the US direct-to-consumer satellite market by 2030, which he interprets as SpaceX conceding it will lose T-Mobile as a partner, given T-Mobile's existing direct-to-device joint venture alongside Verizon and AT&T.
  • SpaceMob community members, tracking public filings and Reddit posts, identified that AST SpaceMobile has leased a warehouse in Titusville, Florida, near Cape Canaveral, which Kook speculates could be used for satellite staging or additional ground-support equipment ahead of an extended launch campaign.
  • Kook raised as an unconfirmed rumor (not yet visible in court dockets) that Ligado may be in talks to settle its roughly $39 billion 'Takings' lawsuit against the Department of Defense, and speculated that a resolution could eventually let Ligado trade its AST-related lease payments and royalty override back to AST for ASTS stock, potentially consolidating the two entities over a multi-year timeframe.
  • Kook described a broader thesis of AST SpaceMobile as an open technology platform: making its connectivity accessible via APIs to third-party developers building niche products (e.g., pet-tracking collars, maritime beacons), which mobile carrier partners would want to enable because it drives more of their own cellular-plan sales.
  • Blue Origin is reportedly raising $10 billion at a $130 billion valuation, which Kook cited as evidence the launch provider is investing to compete (rather than facing insolvency) and is rapidly rebuilding launchpad capacity — relevant background given AST's use of Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket for satellite launches.
  • Kook noted that AST SpaceMobile's stock has moved from roughly $70 to $120 during this cycle and, viewed as a roughly 9-month consolidation band, argues the market has not yet priced in the accumulated milestones — contrasting it with Starlink's IPO adding an estimated $500 billion in market cap, described as about 20 times AST's own market cap.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Stock frustration, technical analysis, and idiosyncratic volatility

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:26

    Kook opened by describing feeling exasperated over the weekend watching AST's stock grind sideways in a choppy market, questioning why the stock keeps 'fading' events the community views as significant (e.g., 'metal in orbit'), and referenced a 12,000-word essay by 'Kevin Mack' arguing he no longer holds a position and that the stock is worth 3x revenue.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:35

    Kook said he backtested technical analysis (TA) approaches and concluded TA generally has little statistical edge, but that some TA-focused traders have genuine skill/instinct that gives them edge even if the raw technique itself doesn't have a proven statistical edge.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook explained idiosyncratic volatility: a REIT has low idiosyncratic vol (roughly 15-20%, in his framing) because its price is driven mainly by interest rates, whereas ASTS has extremely high idiosyncratic volatility, meaning company-specific developments — not macro factors — drive most of its price movement, which he says makes research-driven trading unusually profitable on this stock.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:06:21

    Kook criticized a bearish commentator ('Philip Lyle') who pointed to a satellite shipment taking an extra week or two as validation of a bear thesis, countering that the company is now shipping satellites at a pace of three to four per month, and argued that satellite delivery cadence is 'necessary but not sufficient' for the stock's overall direction to change — the market currently needs positive surprises ('grenades') to break out of malaise.

SpaceX IPO dynamics and short covering

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  • Kook Speculation 00:03:55

    Kook said the SpaceX IPO had a bigger market impact on ASTS trading dynamics than he expected, and that his personal stock-loan desk showed shorts covered massive amounts of ASTS stock recently — surprising him since the stock didn't rally on the covering, and volumes have been very weak.

  • Kook Speculation 00:03:55

    Kook interpreted the short covering combined with weak volume as forming a technical 'bull flag' pattern and a possible early signal that 'not all is lost,' reasoning that if bears truly believed the stock should fall further, shorts would be adding to positions rather than covering.

Satellite production execution

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:06:21

    Kook noted the company tweeted an update titled 'Execution in Motion,' reporting that BlueBird 11 has now landed at Cape Canaveral, with BlueBirds 12 and 13 following behind it, and that shipment could happen 'pretty soon.'

  • Kook Confirmed 00:06:21

    Kook said the company immediately backfilled its production queue with a new satellite, BlueBird 38, now in assembly ('the Midland womb of connectivity'), extending the disclosed satellite production queue.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:21

    Citing a chart updated by community member Peter Lindmark, Kook said the count of shipped satellites is rising while the count of satellites still in assembly (work-in-progress, or WIP) has stayed roughly constant, which he interprets as a growing backlog of near-complete satellites that will translate into a surge of shipments over roughly the next two months.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:21

    Citing community member @TechInvestor's tracking of a Reddit post, Kook noted AST SpaceMobile leased a large warehouse in Titusville, Florida, and speculated it could be used for ground equipment storage or staging satellites closer to the launch site ahead of an extended launch campaign, rather than relying solely on payload processing facilities.

J.LEO grant alpha (Japan sovereign satellite program)

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  • Kook Speculation 00:09:29

    Kook said community researcher Tanner found that the formal grant decision for Japan's J.LEO sovereign satellite program appears to begin in mid-July, and that as of this recording (mid-July) it looks 'increasingly likely' the next hurdle/press release could come as soon as this week, though he stressed he didn't know for certain if or when it would happen.

  • Kook Speculation 00:09:29

    Kook cited a slide Tanner found showing J.LEO funding of $900 million with matching investments, for a total of $2 billion, calling this 'gasoline on the financial model' for ASTS and a potential template for sovereign satellite deals to be replicated in other countries, which he framed as directly displacing SpaceX.

Spectral efficiency breakthrough

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:10:28

    Kook said several technical community members (Katsu, Another Smith, Defying Client, and others) flagged that AST's technology achieved 98.9 megabits per second on a 10 megahertz channel this week, which he called shocking and far beyond what he had modeled.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:28

    Kook said his financial model had been using a normalized spectral efficiency of about 2.5 to 3 bits per hertz with an upside case of 4, and that this result implies peak spectral efficiency of about 10 bits per hertz — a 'complete shock' to his model if AST's monetization scales with the quantity of data it can transmit (which he said is not strictly one-to-one with revenue, but 'sure as hell is not zero').

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:28

    Kook cautioned he wouldn't necessarily expect the stock to immediately rally on this news, describing it as the type of event that may not trigger urgent buying since 'no one else seems to be driving the stock up higher' yet, but called it a major positive signal for the pace of technology improvement and the value of AST's vertical integration (ability to test/experiment/upgrade its own satellites in orbit).

Regulatory alpha: Grain Management spectrum and Ligado lawsuit rumor

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:13:40

    Citing community member Katsu's timeline, Kook said the FCC approved a Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum transaction tied to T-Mobile on July 1st, and that AST SpaceMobile filed Special Temporary Authority (STA) applications to test that spectrum band the very next day, July 2nd.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:33

    Kook said he didn't know whether the stock would re-rate on the prospect of another leased spectrum band, noting this is 'embedded value' that may only be realized later once the system is operationalized, but called the sequence of events (FCC approval, AST's STA filing, and Chris Sambar's move to T-Mobile) 'a lot of coincidences.'

  • Kook Rumor 00:13:40

    Kook raised, as a rumor not yet appearing in the court docket, that Ligado ('Legato') may be in talks to settle its roughly $39 billion 'Takings' lawsuit against the Department of Defense (filed over the government allegedly condemning its spectrum without compensation), and said he believes the eventual settlement amount will likely be far less than $39 billion.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:40

    Kook speculated that once the Ligado/DoD lawsuit is resolved, Ligado could become more willing to trade back its royalty override and AST lease payments in exchange for ASTS stock, potentially leading to a consolidation of the two entities at a ratio to be determined — a scenario he said he would like to see as a long-term shareholder, but on a timescale of years, with nothing imminent.

T-Mobile, Chris Sambar, and the direct-to-consumer market shift

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  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook said the one-year anniversary of T-Mobile's SpaceX/Starlink Direct-to-Cell contract falls in August, and that per fellow host Anpanman's observation, T-Mobile's public tone toward SpaceX has shifted from favorable to 'flat out acrimonious' recently.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook noted Chris Sambar — the former AT&T executive he credits as singularly responsible for AT&T's engagement with AST SpaceMobile — has joined T-Mobile as Chief Enterprise Officer, exactly two years after leaving AT&T, which he framed as suspiciously well-timed relative to expectations of a possible T-Mobile/AST deal and coinciding with T-Mobile's existing direct-to-device joint venture with Verizon and AT&T.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook said he finds it unlikely the stock would fall 10% if T-Mobile signs a deal with AST SpaceMobile, calling it an event he's looking forward to, though timing remains uncertain.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook said SpaceX has effectively guided to only 1% penetration of the US direct-to-consumer (D2C) satellite market by 2030, which he interprets as SpaceX conceding it will lose T-Mobile, since T-Mobile's participation in a D2C joint venture with Verizon and AT&T implies (in his view) a roughly 99% probability T-Mobile secures a different D2C solution.

Valuation context and Starlink comparison

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  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook described AST's stock chart (per an analysis he titled 'A Vesuvius of Milestones') as trading in roughly a $70-to-$120 consolidation band over about nine months despite a steady accumulation of positive milestones, and said he expects the stock to eventually resolve upward as the constellation is built out, but cautioned he doesn't expect it to 're-rate' to reflect future events overnight.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook cited a comparison (credited to 'Reform') noting Starlink added an estimated $500 billion in market cap following its IPO — equivalent to roughly 20 times AST SpaceMobile's own market cap — even though analysts view the mobile/D2C market as a key growth driver for Starlink, calling the valuation gap between the two companies 'huge.'

AST as an open technology platform

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  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook argued AST SpaceMobile's greatest long-term leverage may come from becoming an open technology platform accessible via APIs, allowing third-party developers close to niche problems (e.g., pet-tracking collars, cattle/sheep herding, maritime beacons, shark-attack alerts for surfers) to build hardware/software solutions AST or its carrier partners wouldn't develop themselves.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook cited pet-tech startup Fi's new dog collar with Starlink satellite connectivity as an example of this dynamic already playing out with a competitor, arguing it's an obvious model for AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile to replicate by opening their networks via AST SpaceMobile, since it drives more cellular plan sales through their existing partnerships.

Blue Origin fundraising and launch capacity

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:17:47

    Kook noted Blue Origin is reportedly raising $10 billion at a $130 billion valuation, which he said signals Blue Origin is 'playing to win' rather than facing insolvency, and referenced CEO David Limp's update on how quickly the company is rebuilding its launchpad capacity.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:47

    Kook said whether Blue Origin launches again before year-end doesn't materially matter to him, since a launch in January, February, or March would functionally be 'all the same' by that point.

Watch Items5

  • Formal grant decision/press release for Japan's J.LEO sovereign satellite program

    Expected mid-July 2026; Kook speculated it could come 'this week' (the week of the recording) Kook 00:09:29
  • Surge in BlueBird satellite shipments (BlueBirds 12 and 13 following BlueBird 11)

    Kook expects a shipment surge within the next two months Kook 00:06:21
  • One-year anniversary of T-Mobile's SpaceX/Starlink Direct-to-Cell contract

    August (exact date not given) Kook 00:17:47
  • Possible T-Mobile commercial deal with AST SpaceMobile

    Timing uncertain, per Kook Kook 00:17:47
  • Blue Origin New Glenn launch (relevant to AST's launch manifest)

    Possibly before year-end 2026, or slipping to January-March 2027 Kook 00:17:47

Open Questions5

  • Will Japan's J.LEO grant decision actually produce a formal press release this week, or will it slip further?

    Kook 00:09:29
  • Will the market meaningfully re-rate ASTS on the discovery of additional leasable spectrum (e.g., the Grain Management 800 MHz band), or will this value only be recognized once operationalized?

    Kook 00:21:33
  • At what ratio (if any) might Ligado and AST SpaceMobile eventually consolidate once the Ligado-DoD 'Takings' lawsuit is resolved?

    Kook 00:13:40
  • When, if ever, will T-Mobile actually sign a direct-to-device deal with AST SpaceMobile, given the circumstantial signals (Grain spectrum filing, Chris Sambar's hire, SpaceX's own guidance)?

    Kook 00:17:47
  • How much of AST's accumulated positive news and milestones is already priced into the stock, given its ~9-month consolidation between roughly $70 and $120?

    Kook 00:17:47
2026-07-13 47:22

Why the Street Has No Clue About AST SpaceMobile's Biggest Catalyst Yet

Anpanman

Recorded solo from his car during a heavy market selloff, Anpanman (no Kook in this episode) argues that macro chaos — Iran tensions, oil and rates rising, a broader space-stock rout since late May — has nothing to do with AST SpaceMobile's underlying fundamentals.

Those fundamentals, he says, have never been stronger. He walks through fading short-interest overhangs: Millennium index-arb desks and a recurring short-seller 'bottom signal'.

Then he makes his central case: Wall Street (UBS, Bernstein, and to a lesser extent Morgan Stanley) is writing about Starlink as the telecom industry's disruptor while completely ignoring AST, even as Chris Sambar's move from AT&T to T-Mobile, Japan's J-LEO funding, and the Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum situation all point toward AST's competitive position strengthening.

He closes with investor-psychology advice: avoid margin, hold conviction, and expect a re-rating once institutions catch up.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman hosted this AST SpaceMobile Podcast episode solo, recorded live from his car during a volatile trading session; Kook is referenced only as someone posting separately over the weekend, not as a co-host present in this episode.
  • Anpanman argues the space-sector selloff since the end of May is driven by macro factors (Iran leadership vacuum, rising oil prices, Fed rate-hike jawboning) and a wave of hedge-fund short covering/unwinding, not by any deterioration in AST SpaceMobile's fundamentals.
  • He believes two Millennium multi-strategy hedge fund desks reportedly made close to $4 billion trading Nasdaq 100 and SpaceX index-rebalancing dynamics, and speculates those desks were partly short space stocks (including ASTS) while long SpaceX — a position he believes is now unwinding, with ASTS real-time short interest down to the 'low 70s' from an '80s' peak.
  • Chris Sambar, former AT&T President of Network and a former AST SpaceMobile board member who personally knows the company's technology and roadmap, has joined T-Mobile as Chief Enterprise Officer with an innovation mandate — timing Anpanman ties directly to Starlink's T-Mobile exclusivity expiring this month.
  • Anpanman contends Wall Street sell-side research (UBS's July 7 European telecom deep dive and Bernstein's telecom-sector downgrade) is writing extensively about Starlink as a competitive telecom threat while never once mentioning AST SpaceMobile or its Vodafone joint venture, Satellite Connect Europe.
  • Japan's J-LEO program is expected to formally grant funding of roughly $900 million to $1 billion in non-dilutive government capital to the Rakuten/AST joint venture, which Anpanman expects 'as early as mid-July' — about two days after this recording.
  • Anpanman expects that once J-LEO funding is formalized, the JV can borrow an equivalent additional amount from a bank like Sumitomo at very low rates against the guaranteed government cash flow, doubling the available capital for satellites and launch purchases.
  • The Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum (adjacent to AT&T/Verizon's 850 MHz holdings) is being tested with AST, and Grain's buildout requirements mean AST is likely the only company that can help it meet its 1-year and 2-year deployment deadlines — with a decision on that spectrum solicitation expected before the end of November.
  • AST's original goal of 6 satellites/month manufacturing was pushed from late 2025 to first-half 2026; Anpanman says current production is closer to 4-5 satellites/month (micron capacity is ~10/month, but full composite-ring assembly is the bottleneck), and that launch capacity — not manufacturing — is now the binding constraint.
  • Anpanman says he is not on margin, holds AST SpaceMobile as by far his largest position, added to it during this selloff, and is currently sitting on an unrealized drawdown in the 'low 8-digit figures' from his May peak.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Macro backdrop and the space-stock selloff

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:26

    Started the space live from his car specifically because sentiment was so bad, citing Trump/Iran tensions, a US move to charge fees for ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz, and a total leadership vacuum in Iran that makes negotiation difficult.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:26

    Oil prices are up and rates are pushing higher on expectations of renewed inflation, with Fed governors jawboning about potential rate hikes, all of which is weighing on risk assets broadly.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:03:26

    Space stocks have been grinding lower on an almost weekly basis with little reprieve since the end of May, describing it as 'a straight line down.'

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:01:26

    Mentioned an overnight statistic (uncertain/unconfirmed, 'I think it was like') that roughly 350,000 retail margin accounts in memory-stock names went to zero, using it as a cautionary example of over-leveraged retail investors and a reason he always advises against trading on margin.

Short interest dynamics and Millennium hedge fund trades

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:26

    Speculates a decent portion of the short interest in the space-stock basket (including ASTS) came from pre-IPO SpaceX shareholders hedging into SpaceX's August share-lockup unlock.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:07:26

    Cited two Bloomberg articles reporting that two index relative-value desks at Millennium (a multi-strategy hedge fund) made almost $4 billion trading the Nasdaq 100 and SpaceX-related rebalancing events.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:26

    Theorizes those Millennium desks were short the space-stock sector while long SpaceX as a paired trade, and that as they've unwound (closing shorts, selling SpaceX), it explains SpaceX settling back down near its IPO price and space-stock short interest evaporating.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:07:26

    Explained index arbitrage generally — funds positioning around index additions/deletions for moves that could be 5-20%+ — as a once-very-profitable but now largely crowded-out trade, except for large funds that can add directionality and actually move stock prices with their capital.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Said real-time ASTS short interest was in the 'low 70s' as of that morning, down from an '80s' peak.

The recurring short-seller 'bottom signal' and hedge fund pain

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Noted that short-seller/hedge-fund commentator Kiryu Onoda posted about AST being down again today, which Anpanman treats as a reliable contrarian signal that the stock is near a bottom.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:26

    Theorizes Onoda is likely a junior analyst at a 'pod shop' hedge fund whose long book gets hurt on days ASTS and similar names are down, prompting his negative posts.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:13:26

    Recounted that Onoda previously shorted ASTS around $18-20 and covered around $35, which is when this pattern of him being a reliable bottom indicator began.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:13:26

    Cited the Goldman Sachs Hedge Fund VIP index versus the Most Shorted Stocks index (a proxy for crowded hedge fund longs vs. their common shorts): the VIP index was around 350-360 last May and has fallen to 236 now, off by over a third and at its lowest level since 2023 — indicating broad hedge fund pain.

Chris Sambar's move from AT&T to T-Mobile

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:26

    Called Chris Sambar's hiring at T-Mobile as Chief Enterprise Officer (with an innovation mandate) 'huge news,' emphasizing the timing relative to Starlink's T-Mobile exclusivity ending this month — roughly '10 to 12 days' out from this recording.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:26

    Noted Sambar's hiring came shortly after AT&T and Verizon announced their joint venture and invited T-Mobile to join, implying T-Mobile needed someone who understands AST's technology and the players involved before entering that JV.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:26

    Said he personally reached out to AST SpaceMobile for comment on the Sambar hire and got no response, which he interpreted as a positive sign of sensitivity around communications and a hint that 'more stuff' is coming.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:16:26

    Recounted the history: Sambar, as AT&T's President of Network, led 5G deployment and developed FirstNet; Abel Avellan met him through FirstNet after former AT&T colleagues (who knew Abel from his prior company EMC) recommended the meeting, and AT&T engineers became closely involved with AST's technology development from around 2019-2020.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:16:26

    Said Sambar has described being surprised at BlueWalker 3's performance, citing roughly 21 megabits per second download speeds achieved during testing.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:16:26

    Recounted that the AST/AT&T relationship was kept under wraps as a 'skunkworks' project until 2022, when competing pressure from Elon Musk's satellite plans prompted Sambar to brief CEO John Stankey, who reportedly responded 'why didn't you tell me sooner, this is great' — after which the partnership became formal and public, including Stankey's Wall Street Journal comments that AST's technology was '5 to 10 years ahead' of Starlink.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:16:26

    Noted Sambar sat on AST's board, including its network and spectrum subcommittee (alongside Johan Wiberg and others), giving him intimate knowledge of AST's roadmap and plans.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:26

    Cited past interviews where Sambar said AST 'has no competition' relative to Starlink, describing Starlink's approach as 'grafting' acquired Swarm technology onto existing satellites in a suboptimal way, and noting Sambar was aware of interference issues with that approach.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:26

    Framed Sambar's hire as the latest step in a pattern he's tracked since 2023: T-Mobile's original pro-Starlink executives (including Mike Katz, who architected the Starlink/T-Satellite partnership, and former CEO Mike Sievert) have been leaving, replaced by an AST-aligned executive, which he reads as building toward T-Mobile eventually partnering with AST.

Wall Street's blind spot: UBS, Bernstein, and Morgan Stanley research

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:24:26

    Cited a UBS 47-page deep dive (published around July 7) on satellites' impact on European telecom that discusses direct-to-device and fixed wireless threats and downgrades Vodafone, but names only Starlink and never mentions AST SpaceMobile or the Satellite Connect Europe joint venture, nor the potential 2027 reallocation of Starlink's EchoStar 2 GHz spectrum (part of which could go to Satellite Connect Europe).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:24:26

    Noted Bernstein downgraded the entire telecom sector (wireless carriers plus cable companies Charter and Comcast) citing Starlink as a competitive threat, with no mention of AST SpaceMobile anywhere in that report.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:24:26

    Contrasted this with Morgan Stanley's SpaceX coverage initiation, which he says estimated Starlink would only capture about 1% of the US mobile market, reasoning that carriers have a better, purpose-built alternative.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:24:26

    Argued sell-side analysts mostly reflect investor/trader flow and conversations rather than original insight, and that the Starlink/SpaceX narrative is simply too dominant and fee-generating (large IPO, $20 billion debt refinancing) for analysts to bother researching AST as a competitor.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:24:26

    Suggested UBS's Europe-centric research focus is one reason it overlooks AST and Satellite Connect Europe, since AST is headquartered outside Europe.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:24:26

    Predicted this blind spot will become 'very hard to ignore' once the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture goes definitive and detailed plans are disclosed.

J-LEO Japanese government funding

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    Said Japan's J-LEO program should get a formal grant and start being funded 'as early as mid-July' — about two days out from this recording, possibly a bit longer — representing $900 million to $1 billion of non-dilutive government funding.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    Explained that once the JV has guaranteed Japanese government cash flow, it can borrow an equivalent amount from a bank such as Sumitomo at a very low interest rate, effectively doubling available capital, to be used for launch purchases (from Mitsubishi, SpaceX, etc.) and satellite construction.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:33:26

    Noted that when Scott Wisniewski previously said the company wasn't planning additional convertible bond raises or an ATM currently, and was tilting toward commercial prepayments, he 'forgot to mention' government prepayments like J-LEO as another non-dilutive funding source.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:33:26

    Dismissed social-media accounts ('Space Mob' accounts with a red A) pushing speculative theories about J-LEO, saying no sell-side analysts have written updates on J-LEO yet because it isn't formalized, but that will change once it is.

Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum and the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:33:26

    Noted the Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum sits adjacent to AT&T and Verizon's 850 MHz holdings, and that AST is already working closely with Grain to test that spectrum.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    Said Grain has buildout requirements at the 1-year and 2-year marks, and argued AST SpaceMobile is the only provider that can help Grain meet them since Starlink currently has no satellites capable of using low-band spectrum.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    Expects the solicitation/decision on who gets to utilize the Grain spectrum to conclude before the end of November, guessing it will be some type of partnership with AST, with that spectrum ultimately folded into the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    Confirmed the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture has not yet gone definitive, but said 'it will.'

Launch schedule and manufacturing cadence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    Said BlueBird 12 and 13 will ship imminently, with BlueBird 11 already on its way to Cape Canaveral, and that the next SpaceX launch is expected the first week of August.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    Said he'd be 'shocked' if AST doesn't sign a multi-launch agreement with Mitsubishi for the H3 rocket (tied to J-LEO), and guessed a multi-launch agreement with ULA would follow soon.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:33:26

    Noted the company is still awaiting additional military awards related to the Golden Dome program, and is still waiting on an FCC-granted Special Temporary Authority (STA) for military testing in the 900 MHz band (previously filed).

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:42:08

    Responding to a listener comment noting the original 6-satellites-per-month target slipped from late 2025 to first-half 2026, and that recent cadence has been roughly 3 per month over the last 7 weeks with only one additional satellite (BlueBird 38) added to the production line — Anpanman did quick math (BlueBird 13 through 38) putting about 25 satellites currently in production.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:42:08

    Estimated the company's micron-production capacity is around 10 satellites' worth per month, but full assembly (composite ring plus control unit) currently caps actual output closer to 4-5 satellites per month.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:42:08

    Said hitting the 6-per-month manufacturing target doesn't matter right now because production isn't the constraining factor — launch capacity is — though it will matter once launch supply is abundant (noting Blue Origin may come back online in December).

Sector differentiation and investor psychology

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:42:08

    Observed some differentiation emerging within the space sector on the recording day: BlackSky was up 2.9% on positive government contract news, while Planet Labs was down only 0.8% on its own positive news.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    Recalled that when Verizon joined AST SpaceMobile, it was a shock to the market and re-rated the stock from $5 to $39, and argued a similar (though not necessarily equally sized) re-rating is likely if/when T-Mobile signs.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:42:08

    Disclosed that AST SpaceMobile is by far his largest portfolio position, that he bought more shares during this selloff, and that he is not on margin.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:42:08

    Said he is currently down 'low 8-digit figures' as an unrealized drawdown from his May peak, but stressed that's a paper loss, not a locked-in one.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:42:08

    Advised listeners not to trade on margin, to build their own conviction through independent research rather than relying on others' opinions, and to stop obsessively watching the stock price ('go outside, touch grass').

Watch Items8

  • J-LEO formal government grant/funding for the Rakuten/AST joint venture (~$900M-$1B non-dilutive)

    As early as mid-July (about two days from this recording), possibly a few days later Anpanman 00:33:26
  • Starlink's exclusivity period with T-Mobile expiring

    This month, roughly 10-12 days from the recording Anpanman 00:16:26
  • Next SpaceX Falcon 9 launch carrying additional BlueBird satellites (BB-12, BB-13 shipping imminently, BB-11 already en route)

    First week of August Anpanman 00:33:26
  • Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum solicitation/partnership decision

    Before the end of November Anpanman 00:33:26
  • AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture going definitive

    Not yet definitive; expected 'shortly'/soon, no exact date given Anpanman 00:33:26
  • Potential multi-launch agreements with Mitsubishi (H3 rocket) and ULA

    Guessed as coming soon, tied to J-LEO Anpanman 00:33:26
  • FCC Special Temporary Authority (STA) grant for 900 MHz military band testing

    Previously filed, still pending Anpanman 00:33:26
  • SpaceX's next share lockup/unlock and potential selling pressure across the space stock basket

    August Anpanman 00:42:08

Open Questions4

  • Will the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture actually go definitive, and when?

    Anpanman 00:33:26
  • Will SpaceX's next share unlock in August create selling pressure that drags down the entire space stock basket (including AST), or will company-specific catalysts offset it?

    Anpanman 00:42:08
  • Who will win the ability to utilize the Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum, and will it ultimately be folded into the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture?

    Anpanman 00:33:26
  • Will AST SpaceMobile reach its original 6-satellites-per-month manufacturing target, and does hitting that cadence matter while launch capacity (not production) remains the binding constraint?

    Anpanman 00:42:08
2026-07-08 40:53

The Return of the King: Chris Sambar Joins T-Mobile and What It Means for AST SpaceMobile

Anpanman

In a solo X Spaces episode recorded after a broadly risk-off market day, Anpanman covers two AST SpaceMobile developments.

The first is a disclosed 10 bits/hertz spectral efficiency figure from the Satellite Connect Europe conference. The second is the hiring of former AT&T network president Chris Sambar as T-Mobile's new Chief Enterprise Officer.

Anpanman's headline conclusion is that Sambar's hire, combined with Mike Katz's simultaneous departure, the ending of T-Mobile's Starlink exclusivity in July, and the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile carrier joint venture, together signal that T-Mobile is quietly repositioning to work with AST SpaceMobile rather than Starlink, even though the market has not yet priced this in.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman hosted this AST SpaceMobile Podcast episode solo (no Kook) on a day when broad markets sold off due to deleveraging in Korean memory stocks and news out of Iran.
  • The Satellite Connect Europe conference disclosed that AST SpaceMobile achieved 10 bits per second per hertz of spectral efficiency, roughly 3x the ~3 bits/hertz figure the company had previously touted, with a stated roadmap potentially reaching up to 11x improvement.
  • Chris Sambar, former President of Network at AT&T, architect of FirstNet, and a former AST SpaceMobile board member who personally built AT&T's original partnership with AST, has been hired by T-Mobile as its new Chief Enterprise Officer.
  • Sambar spent roughly two years as COO of Public Storage between leaving AT&T and joining T-Mobile, which Anpanman speculates corresponds to serving out a non-compete from AT&T.
  • Sambar met AST founder Abel Avellan around 2017 while building out FirstNet, is a personal friend of Avellan, and Anpanman argues his hire is a strong signal that T-Mobile intends to work with AST SpaceMobile rather than Starlink.
  • T-Mobile's Starlink Direct-to-Cell exclusivity is set to end in July, and Mike Katz — T-Mobile's Chief Business and Product Officer for ~20 years and the executive Anpanman says architected the Starlink/T-Satellite relationship — announced his departure in the same press release as Sambar's hiring.
  • Anpanman disputes analyst Tim Farrar's take that the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture (announced in May) was formed mainly to gain negotiating leverage over Starlink, arguing instead it exists to bring T-Mobile into AST SpaceMobile's platform.
  • Grain Management acquired 600 MHz spectrum and swapped it with T-Mobile for 800 MHz spectrum (paying T-Mobile roughly $2.9 billion in cash for the uneven trade), and that 800 MHz spectrum sits directly adjacent to AT&T's and Verizon's 850 MHz band leased to AST SpaceMobile.
  • Anpanman speculates the Grain 800 MHz spectrum will eventually be folded into the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture alongside AST's existing leased spectrum, with shared gateway infrastructure across the US, Alaska, Canada and US territories.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

Market context

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:30

    Anpanman opened by acknowledging a 'pretty brutal' trading day where every sector was under pressure, attributing the risk-off tape to deleveraging in Korea (tied to a mania in memory-chip companies) compounded by news out of Iran.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Despite the broader risk-off environment, Anpanman said there were two pieces of genuinely positive AST SpaceMobile news that day that he believed the market hadn't yet processed.

10 bits/hertz spectral efficiency disclosure

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:02:06

    Satellite Connect Europe released performance metrics showing AST SpaceMobile achieved 10 bits per second per hertz of spectral efficiency, a figure Anpanman said surprised even close followers of the technology.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:02:06

    Anpanman framed the 10 bits/hertz result as approximately 3x the roughly 3 bits/hertz spectral efficiency the company had previously touted, consistent with what CEO Abel Avellan has discussed, with the broader roadmap potentially reaching up to 11x performance enhancement.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:02:06

    Anpanman predicted that once research analysts fully digest what the spectral efficiency figure means for broadband speeds across the constellation, the market's view of AST's competitive differentiation will shift dramatically.

Chris Sambar hired by T-Mobile as Chief Enterprise Officer

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:03:26

    After market close, Anpanman saw a press release that Chris Sambar — former President of Network at AT&T, responsible for FirstNet and for architecting/building out AT&T's 5G network — is joining T-Mobile.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:26

    Anpanman speculated Sambar's career at AT&T had a ceiling because John Stankey was recently appointed CEO and is likely to hold that seat for a long time, making it a natural point for Sambar to move on.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:26

    Between AT&T and T-Mobile, Sambar spent close to two years (full two years as of this coming October) as Chief Operating Officer of Public Storage; Anpanman guessed this period served out a non-compete of roughly 1.5 to 2 years from AT&T while still drawing a paycheck.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:03:26

    The T-Mobile press release states Sambar is tasked with strengthening T-Mobile's strategy to disrupt and expand into industries beyond core wireless, including enterprise, IoT and 6G, while redefining the customer experience in the enterprise market.

Chris Sambar's history with AST SpaceMobile and Abel Avellan

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:05:11

    Drawing on a 6G Podcast interview with Sambar, Anpanman recounted that roughly 7-8 years ago (around 2017), while Sambar was building out FirstNet for AT&T, Abel Avellan approached him as a vendor pitching AST SpaceMobile's technology; Avellan's first call among US carriers was to AT&T, aided by warm introductions from his prior company EMC's relationships with AT&T.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:05:11

    Anpanman noted that around 2017-2018, when Avellan first filed constellation plans with the FCC, Verizon and T-Mobile pushed back, arguing the technology wouldn't work and could cause interference, while AT&T was initially 'somewhat lukewarm.'

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:05:11

    Anpanman recalled that around 2019, AT&T and AST signed an MOU giving AT&T roughly five years of mutual exclusivity in the US — AST couldn't sell to Verizon or T-Mobile, and AT&T couldn't use any other direct-to-device provider.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:05:11

    Anpanman said Vodafone's CTO posted an early YouTube video, possibly in summer 2018 or 2019 (date uncertain), discussing AST SpaceMobile's technology and Vodafone's interest in it.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:05:11

    Sambar described the early AT&T-AST relationship as a 'skunkworks' project run informally by himself and AT&T's then-CTO.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:05:11

    Anpanman relayed that in 2022, after Starlink and Apple publicly disclosed their direct-to-device plans, Sambar told AT&T CEO John Stankey about the AT&T-AST work, and Stankey reportedly asked why he hadn't been told sooner; Sambar's response was that they weren't yet sure the technology would work.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:05:11

    Sambar called the BlueWalker 1 test satellite an 'aha moment,' praising Avellan's approach of sending a mobile phone to space to iterate satellite development on Earth rather than launching multiple full satellites.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:05:11

    Sambar personally spearheaded AT&T's technical evaluation of AST, orchestrated AT&T's strategic equity investment and multi-year commercial agreement, and served on AST SpaceMobile's board, giving him intimate knowledge of the company's launch timeline, engineering capabilities and capital needs at least through 2024.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:05:11

    Anpanman said Sambar is a personal friend of Abel Avellan and knows Scott Wisniewski and other senior AST SpaceMobile executives directly.

T-Mobile's strategic shift and the three-carrier joint venture

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:17:26

    Anpanman disagreed with industry consultant Tim Farrar's view (voiced the morning the carrier JV was announced) that the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture was formed mainly to give the three carriers better negotiating leverage against Starlink; Anpanman argued the real purpose is to let T-Mobile join AT&T and Verizon in using AST SpaceMobile.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:12:06

    T-Mobile's Starlink Direct-to-Cell exclusivity is ending in July, forcing T-Mobile to decide its strategic direction as Starlink has stated ambitions to compete head-on with the wireless carriers on the terrestrial mobile business.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:06

    Anpanman argued that hiring Sambar transforms T-Mobile's position in the carrier JV from a distrusted, 'hat in hand' latecomer (having previously partnered with Starlink) to a credible party, since Sambar has direct personal trust with Abel Avellan and deep knowledge of AST's technology.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:12:06

    Anpanman recalled that John Stankey was the architect of bringing Verizon into the AT&T-AST partnership in 2024, partly driven by an FCC requirement for contiguous nationwide low-band spectrum coverage to qualify for Supplemental Coverage from Space.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:17:26

    Anpanman pushed back on an unnamed industry analyst who suggested Sambar's hire would mainly help T-Mobile negotiate better with Starlink, calling that read 'off base' and reiterating that Sambar's real value is bringing AST SpaceMobile into T-Mobile's fold.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:17:26

    Anpanman recalled that the carrier JV press release went out around 7:00 a.m., AST SpaceMobile's related press release followed one minute later at 7:01 a.m., and roughly 13 hours after that SpaceX's Gwynne Shotwell tweeted a 'David and Goliath' comment implying Starlink was now competing against the big three carriers; Viasat put out its own press release about two weeks later congratulating what Anpanman referred to as 'Jordan Petra' (name unclear/possibly garbled in the transcript).

Grain Management spectrum and JV infrastructure

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:24:56

    Anpanman explained that Grain Management, an investment firm, acquired 600 MHz spectrum in an earlier FCC auction and later swapped it with T-Mobile for T-Mobile's 800 MHz spectrum, with Grain paying T-Mobile roughly $2.9 billion in cash to balance the uneven trade (Anpanman initially misspoke '$3 billion' before correcting himself).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:24:56

    Anpanman noted that AST SpaceMobile filed a letter supporting FCC approval of Grain's 800 MHz spectrum for direct-to-device use, shortly before the FCC approved the transaction, showing AST and Grain are working closely together, with AST helping Grain meet its network buildout requirements.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:24:56

    Grain's 800 MHz spectrum sits directly adjacent (roughly 7 MHz by 7 MHz up/downlink on average) to AT&T's and Verizon's 850 MHz spectrum used with AST, and T-Mobile reportedly still retains an economic stake in the Grain spectrum.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:24:56

    Anpanman speculated that Grain's 800 MHz spectrum will eventually be combined with the AT&T and Verizon spectrum already leased to AST inside the carrier JV, possibly with the T-Mobile/Grain cash deal renegotiated so T-Mobile redirects that capital into the JV instead.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:24:56

    Anpanman speculated the JV would feature shared gateway infrastructure across the US, Alaska, Canada and US territories to avoid redundant spending, likely interfaced through AT&T's network (analogous to multiple carriers sharing equipment on a single tower site), with each carrier still marketing the service independently.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:24:56

    Responding to a listener question about whether a 60-satellite constellation would provide enough bandwidth for all three carriers, Anpanman said it should be sufficient initially but that the constellation will need to densify over time with more low-band BlueBirds, then mid-band, then eventually a C-band constellation.

Mike Katz's departure from T-Mobile

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:12:06

    Buried in the same T-Mobile press release announcing Sambar's hire, Mike Katz — T-Mobile's Chief Business and Product Officer for about 20 years, hired under former CEO John Legere — is departing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:06

    Anpanman said Katz was largely responsible for the commercial/product execution of T-Mobile's Starlink and T-Satellite relationship, though he was unsure how much decision-making authority Katz had in originally bringing Starlink on.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:06

    Anpanman framed Katz and former CEO Mike Sievert (who departed roughly a year earlier) as the 'old guard' who championed the Starlink deal, which Anpanman said is now viewed, in retrospect, as a strategic mistake for the industry.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:06

    Anpanman argued the timing — Katz's exit and Sambar's hire coinciding with the end of T-Mobile's Starlink exclusivity — is not coincidental and signals T-Mobile shifting away from the leadership responsible for the Starlink deal.

Closing thoughts and market advice

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:26

    Anpanman argued markets are not always efficient, and that the gap between what informed investors understand now (about the Sambar hire and spectral efficiency news) and what the broader market will eventually price in is where investors make real returns.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:26

    Anpanman advised listeners to stay disciplined given the risk-off environment: avoid margin, don't overload positions, don't convert entirely into options, and instead hold and stay informed until conditions settle.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:26

    Anpanman said he plans to research Mike Katz's departure further, potentially reaching out to industry analyst Will Townsend of the 6G Podcast for his read on whether Katz's exit is tied to the broader AST/Starlink dynamic.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:26

    Anpanman closed by saying that when the official news eventually comes that T-Mobile is joining AST SpaceMobile, investors should 'hold on to your butts' because it will be a major stock-moving event.

Watch Items2

  • End of T-Mobile's Starlink Direct-to-Cell exclusivity agreement

    July (stated as ending 'in July') Anpanman 00:12:06
  • Anticipated official announcement of T-Mobile joining/working with AST SpaceMobile

    Not yet dated; described as forthcoming ('when the news eventually comes') Anpanman 00:31:26

Open Questions4

  • How will the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture actually operate once beta and commercial AST SpaceMobile service becomes available — will all three carriers get access at the same time?

    Anpanman 00:24:56
  • Will a roughly 60-satellite constellation provide enough bandwidth to serve all three carriers simultaneously, or will the constellation need to be densified first?

    Anpanman 00:24:56
  • Is Mike Katz's departure from T-Mobile directly connected to the end of the Starlink exclusivity and Chris Sambar's hire, or driven by unrelated reasons?

    Anpanman 00:12:06
  • Exactly how will the Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum deal with T-Mobile be restructured, if at all, as it's folded into the carrier joint venture with AST SpaceMobile?

    Anpanman 00:24:56
2026-07-07 22:43

AST SpaceMobile Hits 10 Bits Per Hertz — Matching Terrestrial Networks From Space

Anpanman

In a solo live X Space recorded during a broad high-beta market selloff, Anpanman uses the red day to reinforce a conviction-investing mindset before covering the episode's headline technical news.

A Satellite Connect Europe (AST-Vodafone JV) presentation revealed that AST's Block 1 satellites hit 98 Mbps on just 10 MHz of downlink spectrum, translating to 10 bits/hertz of spectral efficiency. That is more than double the 4 bits/hertz ceiling previously theorized by analysts, and roughly on par with terrestrial cellular networks.

He also flags BlueBird 11's shipment, with 12 and 13 close behind, as evidence of accelerating production.

He argues Wall Street is only now waking up to satellite connectivity as an existential threat to AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile, with a still-unannounced formal T-Mobile/AST partnership pegged as the next major re-rating catalyst.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's Block 1 satellites achieved 98 Mbps using only 10 MHz of downlink spectrum, corresponding to 10 bits per hertz of spectral efficiency, as disclosed in a Satellite Connect Europe (the AST-Vodafone joint venture) presentation.
  • This 10 bits/hertz result more than doubles the roughly 4 bits/hertz ceiling that industry analysts such as Katzy had previously theorized as a likely technical limit for this kind of satellite link.
  • Anpanman speculates (without full company confirmation) that the efficiency jump likely comes from dual polarization — transmitting on both horizontal and vertical wavelengths over the same 10 MHz channel, roughly doubling throughput per hertz.
  • At 10 bits/hertz, AST's satellite service is now roughly on par with typical terrestrial cellular networks, which Anpanman estimates run around 7-8 bits/hertz, though terrestrial networks still win in dense urban areas where more towers can be added for capacity.
  • AST is currently commercially rolling out approximately 3 to 3.5 bits/hertz of efficiency; hitting 10 bits/hertz in testing already satisfies the first (3x) milestone of the 3x-to-11x spectral-efficiency roadmap that CEO Abel Avellan has previously discussed.
  • BlueBird 11 has shipped, with BlueBirds 12 and 13 close behind, which Anpanman cites as evidence that satellite production cadence is accelerating ahead of the next SpaceX Falcon 9 launch, which he guesses could occur in the first week of August.
  • Anpanman argues Wall Street is increasingly viewing satellite connectivity (both direct-to-device and fixed wireless/home broadband via Starlink's Starship/V3 satellites) as an existential threat to traditional wireless carriers AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile, whose stocks have derated over recent months; T-Mobile was upgraded by Morgan Stanley the same day as this episode.
  • Anpanman believes AT&T and Verizon are already effectively working with AST SpaceMobile and predicts T-Mobile will eventually announce a formal partnership or MOU with AST, which he expects to be the next major stock re-rating catalyst, comparable to the re-rating that followed the Verizon news in the summer of 2024; he notes no sell-side analyst has yet covered this angle and there has been no AST research update since June 12 from B. Riley.
  • Anpanman argues that enabling Starlink as a virtual network operator (MVNO) on an existing carrier's network is a strategic non-starter for AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile, and that a SpaceX acquisition of one of those carriers would likely face heavy regulatory pushback (given prior approval of the T-Mobile/Sprint merger already reduced the market to three national facilities-based carriers) and could hurt SpaceX's premium valuation by making it trade more like a traditional wireless carrier.
  • ASTS stock previously re-rated higher after the 2024 Verizon news, found support around $20, later peaked around $120 and then $133, and (per Anpanman) is now consolidating around $70 amid the broader high-beta market selloff.
  • Anpanman closes with a personal message urging listeners over 30 to get annual checkups and colon cancer screening, sharing that a close friend is in late-stage illness, and reminding investors that health and relationships matter more than money.

Detailed Discussion7 topics

Market Volatility and Investor Mindset

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:22

    On the day of recording, essentially all high-beta sectors (space, quantum, semiconductors) were down roughly 9-11% at their worst, before some names like Nvidia recovered into positive territory; Anpanman frames this as sector-wide de-risking rather than company-specific news.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:17

    Anpanman says he has held ASTS for almost 6 years and has seen severe drawdowns to the point of being 'almost mentally broken,' as well as major highs, and argues that patience and conviction — not reacting to positive news not being immediately reflected in the stock price — is what separates investors who build wealth from those who buy euphoric highs and sell at the bottom.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:02:26

    He advises that investors who can't emotionally handle single-stock volatility, or who are on margin/options, are poorly suited to hold high-beta single names, and that low-conviction portfolio positions are typically the first sold in a downturn.

Satellite Connect Europe: 10 Bits/Hertz Spectral Efficiency Breakthrough

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:05:33

    A presentation from Satellite Connect Europe (the AST-Vodafone joint venture) disclosed that the previously reported 98 Mbps achieved by Block 1 satellites was done using only 10 MHz of downlink spectrum, i.e. 10 bits per hertz of spectral efficiency.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:06:52

    This is well above the roughly 4 bits/hertz that analysts including Katzy had discussed as a potential theoretical ceiling — the new result more than doubles that figure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:06:52

    Anpanman says the company hasn't fully confirmed the exact mechanism, but speculates (spitballing) it likely involves dual polarization — transmitting packets on both horizontal and vertical wavelengths over the same 10 MHz downlink channel, effectively achieving about 5 bits/hertz times two.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:05:33

    The Satellite Connect Europe slide states the company is commercially rolling out about 3 bits/hertz today, with a roadmap (previously discussed by Abel Avellan) toward boosting efficiency by roughly 3x to 11x; hitting 10 bits/hertz in testing already accomplishes the first 3x milestone, since the company is currently at roughly 3 to 3.5 bits/hertz.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:08:13

    Anpanman notes an unnamed 'Space Mob' community member pointed out that reaching 10 bits/hertz puts AST effectively at parity with terrestrial cellular systems.

Spectral Efficiency vs. Terrestrial Networks

3
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:13

    Based on his own past research, Anpanman estimates terrestrial cellular systems run around 7-8 bits/hertz, so reaching 10 bits/hertz from space is, in his words, 'pretty insane' and a 'game changer' for efficiency.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:13

    He clarifies AST won't outperform terrestrial towers' raw capacity in dense urban areas, since terrestrial networks can simply add more towers to densify coverage there; but in suburban or rural areas AST's satellites should effectively rival terrestrial towers, and with multiple satellites overhead plus carrier aggregation and MIMO, could outperform terrestrial networks in those areas.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:13

    He references Katzy's separate posts about strong signal results from recent tests in Ireland as further evidence, alongside the spectral-efficiency news, that AST's technology is highly differentiated versus current or future alternatives — part of why he says roughly 60 MNOs, the US Department of War (defense), the Japanese government, and Brazil have chosen to work with AST, with Europe likely to follow.

BlueBird 11 Ships — Production Cadence

2
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:09:55

    BlueBird 11 has shipped, with BlueBirds 12 and 13 shortly behind, which Anpanman calls another data point showing that satellite production cadence is building.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:09:55

    He guesses (spitballing, no firm date given) that the next Falcon 9 launch of BlueBirds will likely occur in the first week of August.

Carrier Strategy, the Starlink Threat, and the T-Mobile Catalyst

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:29

    Anpanman says direct-to-device, once thought a small niche market, is now seen by Wall Street as an existential threat to wireless carriers; T-Mobile was upgraded by Morgan Stanley on the day of this episode, and AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile stocks have broadly derated over the past several months.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:29

    Part of the derating concern is fixed wireless/home broadband: aggressive cable-company pricing is pressuring carriers' fiber and wireless-to-home growth businesses, and if SpaceX's Starship and V3 satellites can deliver gigabit-per-second speeds (versus current hundreds of Mbps), that could further threaten carriers' home wireless and fiber businesses.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:29

    He argues Starlink operating as an MVNO (using a carrier's network under its own brand via a wholesale deal) is strategically incompatible with the carriers' interests, and that AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile have all effectively said no to enabling this, since letting any one of them break ranks would be bad for all three over the medium-to-long term — which he says is why they formed a joint venture together in May.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:29

    Anpanman says two of the key players in that carrier joint venture, AT&T and Verizon (with AT&T described as having 'quarterbacked' it), are already working with AST SpaceMobile; he reads the situation as strongly suggesting T-Mobile will eventually join as well, calling it 'just a matter of when and how that will get announced.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:29

    As an alternative to an MVNO deal, SpaceX could try to acquire a carrier like T-Mobile, AT&T, or Verizon given its market cap, but Anpanman argues this would likely derate SpaceX's valuation toward a traditional wireless-carrier multiple, would signal to every global carrier not to work with SpaceX, and would likely face heavy regulatory resistance from the DOJ/FCC given that approving the prior T-Mobile/Sprint merger already reduced the US to three national facilities-based carriers — he notes the FCC approving SpaceX's purchase of EchoStar spectrum instead reflects hope for a more competitive fourth carrier, not further consolidation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:29

    He states there has been no sell-side research coverage connecting AST SpaceMobile to the wireless carriers' competitive predicament, and no AST research update since June 12 from B. Riley; he expects a formal T-Mobile-AST announcement (MOU or partnership) to trigger a violent re-rating similar to the one seen after the Verizon news in the summer of 2024.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:29

    He dismisses a named skeptic, 'Lucky Stewie,' described as a 'washed-up' independent industry consultant who questions whether the technology works, arguing the engineers at all the MNOs and companies working with AST are a more credible source than the skeptic.

Stock Price History and Upcoming Catalysts

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:29

    ASTS re-rated higher off the original Verizon news, then found support around $20 before its next move higher; it later peaked around $120, then $133, and is currently 'bumping along' around $70 amid the broad market selloff — which Anpanman notes is still far above its prior $2 and $20 levels.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:41

    He expects the stock to consolidate until the next major catalyst, citing the upcoming BlueBird launch batch, formal J-Leo (Japan) award details — which he guesses (spitballing) could come out in the second half of July — and ongoing developments at Satellite Connect Europe as near-term items to watch, alongside the anticipated T-Mobile/AST announcement as the biggest catalyst.

Personal Reflection: Health and Relationships

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:19:41

    Anpanman closes by urging listeners over age 30 to get annual checkups and colon cancer screening (noting screening guidance has moved to recommend earlier testing than the traditional age-50 threshold), sharing that a close friend of his is in late-stage illness with little time left, and reminding listeners that health and relationships matter more than money.

Watch Items3

  • Next SpaceX Falcon 9 launch carrying additional BlueBird satellites

    Anpanman's guess (spitballing): likely the first week of August Anpanman 00:09:55
  • Formal T-Mobile partnership or MOU announcement with AST SpaceMobile

    No firm date given — described only as 'a matter of when and how that will get announced' Anpanman 00:10:29
  • Formal J-Leo (Japan) award details and formal award

    Anpanman's guess (spitballing): perhaps the second half of July Anpanman 00:19:41

Open Questions3

  • What exact technical method allowed Block 1 satellites to reach 10 bits/hertz efficiency — Anpanman believes it's likely dual polarization but says the company hasn't fully confirmed the mechanism.

    Anpanman 00:06:52
  • When and in what form will T-Mobile formally announce a partnership or MOU with AST SpaceMobile?

    Anpanman 00:10:29
  • If SpaceX's Starship/V3 satellites can deliver gigabit-per-second speeds, will that materially erode wireless carriers' fixed-wireless and home-broadband businesses?

    Anpanman 00:10:29
2026-07-06 21:31

Kook's Halftime: J.Leo, Golden Dome, Rocket Lab's Desperation & the Race for Spectrum

Kook

In this solo 'halftime' episode published July 6, 2026, Kook rapid-fires through a week of AST SpaceMobile news during the Fourth of July. That includes an emerging global sovereignty trend: Japan's J.Leo/Rakuten JV, France, South Korea, and Golden Dome.

He also covers Ireland testing showing a jump to 21 decibels of signal gain and 150 Mbps speeds, the FCC's Grain Management spectrum approval, and TAM expansion into agriculture/IoT and WhatsApp. He adds a competitive read on Rocket Lab's Iridium acquisition and Viasat's spectrum vulnerability.

Kook's headline framing is that ASTS has unusually high 'idiosyncratic volatility,' meaning company-specific research (not macro moves) drives almost all of the stock's price action. That makes it an unusually high-return name to research deeply.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook (recurring AST SpaceMobile Podcast host) argues ASTS has very high 'idiosyncratic volatility' — company-specific news, not broad market moves, drives the vast majority of the stock's volatility — making dedicated research into ASTS unusually high-value compared to most other stocks.
  • Japanese-language documents reviewed by the community reportedly confirm Rakuten Mobile as the winner of Japan's J.Leo contract, and Kook says the contract might ultimately support a gross investment of $2 billion for the Japanese satellite constellation, though he frames this as still speculative on structure.
  • Kook says a broader 'sovereignty' trend is accelerating globally — France (concerns about reliance on Palantir/US providers), South Korea signaling its own constellation ambitions, and Japan's J.Leo potentially serving as an indirect contribution to Golden Dome — all of which Kook argues favor AST SpaceMobile over Starlink for government/security-sensitive deals.
  • Ireland testing data cited by Kook shows signal gain reaching 21 decibels, up roughly 5-6 dB from a prior test, which Kook says meaningfully improves signal-to-noise ratio (from roughly 16 to 21) and benefits bandwidth, reliability, and indoor coverage.
  • AST SpaceMobile's website was updated to state direct-to-device speeds now exceed 150 Mbps, up from a previously stated 120 Mbps.
  • The FCC's approval of Grain Management's 7x7 MHz low-band spectrum (comparable to Iridium's holdings), supported in the docket by both T-Mobile and AST SpaceMobile, is read by Kook as a likely precursor to AST negotiating a lease or profit-share arrangement for that spectrum.
  • Kook highlights new TAM angles including a Vodafone Spain agricultural-sector test in Almería, potential Meta/WhatsApp integration, and cites an X account's math (not Kook's own model) suggesting a speculative upside price target of around $2,500/share, which Kook says he agrees with as an upside case, not a base case.
  • Kook views Rocket Lab's roughly $8 billion acquisition of Iridium as a 'desperation move' and reversal of founder Peter Beck's prior stated position, driven by competitive pressure from SpaceX, Blue Origin, and AST SpaceMobile's progress.
  • Kook speculates AST SpaceMobile could end up in a deal with Viasat for its global S-band spectrum, potentially via an activist campaign, to complement AST's Ligado spectrum position, but says this outcome is unconfirmed.
  • Kook expects next week to bring a formal J.Leo announcement and news that a second satellite batch ('Batch 2') is shipping, while noting Batch 1 satellites are currently in the process of unfurling.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Idiosyncratic Volatility & Research Edge

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook opens by describing a conversation with an experienced, accomplished portfolio manager friend about how ASTS has 'high idiosyncratic volatility' — meaning ASTS-specific news drives the stock much more than broad market moves, unlike a Walmart or a REIT where the market itself drives the stock.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook argues this means the return on research effort into ASTS is unusually high — citing his friend 'DeMunk,' a non-finance-background researcher whose work he says is largely responsible for the community's awareness of the J.Leo contract, as an example of research paying off disproportionately for this stock.

J.Leo Contract (Japan) Update

4
  • Kook Rumor 00:01:22

    Kook says the community has obtained Japanese-language documents indicating 'Rakuten Mobile winner' for the J.Leo contract, and that the contract might be a lot bigger than previously expected, potentially supporting a gross investment of $2 billion to build the Japanese constellation.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook says the exact structure of the $2 billion figure and how it flows through is not yet known, but calls it 'all very positive,' describing a pathway to a Japanese sovereign constellation that also provides leverage for AST SpaceMobile's global constellation buildout.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook notes Japan is adding launch capacity through MHI (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries) the same week, and connects this to J.Leo's stated requirement for local Japanese content across the value chain (ownership, satellites, and launch), suggesting a formal multi-launch agreement with MHI capacity supporting satellites sold into the Rakuten/AST joint venture ('RAST') is likely coming.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    On launch-capacity worries generally, Kook argues: 'don't worry about what you're worried about today, worry about what you should be worried about in 6 months' — if 15 to 25 satellites are already spoken for on MHI alone, plus F9, ULA, and Blue Origin capacity, today's launch-capacity concern will look overblown in six months.

Global Sovereignty Trend (EU, France, South Korea, Golden Dome)

5
  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook cites an article (found via 'Reformed Trader') about France/Paris complaining about Palantir and overreliance on US tech providers, framing this as part of a broader trend favoring providers — like AST SpaceMobile — that can tailor solutions to individual countries' security needs rather than a one-size-fits-all US-centric model.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook says South Korea has separately signaled it wants its own satellite constellation, and notes AST SpaceMobile already has ties there via an investment from the Samsung Next Fund and letters of support to the FCC from Samsung, suggesting South Korea (unable to support its own constellation alone) is likely to pursue some kind of joint-venture structure similar to Japan's.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook relays a point from a follower ('another Smith') that a person shown in a Vodafone update photo is the coordinator of the European Union Critical Communication Service (EUCCS), which Kook interprets as a signal of AST SpaceMobile providing FirstNet-type public-safety services across the EU.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook estimates the government-services pillar (FirstNet-type business) could be worth at least $1 billion in the US alone, and that multiplying this globally could produce $5 to $10 billion in government service business revenue for AST SpaceMobile before even counting military applications.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    An unnamed contributor (believed by Kook to be Japanese) pointed out that Japan has already signaled intent to participate in Golden Dome, and that J.Leo — beyond serving Rakuten/AST emergency services — could indirectly count as Japan's contribution to Golden Dome, similar to how NATO countries buying F-35s counts toward their fighter-capacity contributions.

Government/Defense Positioning vs. SpaceX

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook argues AST SpaceMobile's system was specifically designed to be compliant with Voice over LTE, emergency inter-operator roaming, and 911-service requirements, which he says SpaceX cannot match, calling SpaceX 'a bunch of piece of shit vaporware' for these public-safety/sovereignty use cases.

  • Kook Untagged 00:01:22

    Kook mentions a detailed analysis shared by 'Rocket Tank' covering the Bahamas' regulatory deliberations on satellite direct-to-device — covering how to work with existing MNOs, prevent interference, and choose spectrum bands — which Kook says he hasn't fully read yet but flags as useful background on how these regulatory processes play out.

Technical Performance: Ireland Testing & Speed Update

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:01:22

    Citing a Redrum retweet of an account Kook calls 'Katzi' ('the cat translator'), Kook says Ireland testing data shows 21 decibels of signal gain, roughly 5-6 dB higher than the prior test, which — since decibels are a base-10 log measure — represents a large increase in signal strength.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:22

    Kook relays Redrum's framing that a signal-to-noise ratio of 16 is already good, but going to 21 is 'blasting,' improving bandwidth, reliability, and indoor coverage — important for all applications but especially public safety.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:01:22

    Kook notes the company updated its website to state speeds now exceed 150 Mbps, up from the previously stated 120 Mbps, framing this as evidence the product roadmap is never static and that AST SpaceMobile's technology lead (compared to competitors trying to catch up) will keep widening, likening it to the difficulty of catching up to ASML's chip-making machines.

TAM Expansion: Agriculture/IoT & WhatsApp

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  • Kook Rumor 00:13:24

    Kook cites a post (from an X account named 'Anpanman' that Kook says he's 'never heard of' and isn't sure isn't a bot — distinct from any known recurring podcast host) reporting that Vodafone Spain is testing AST SpaceMobile in Almería for agricultural-sector applications, which Kook calls a meaningful TAM expansion given large equipment makers like John Deere and Caterpillar currently improvising connectivity (e.g., strapping on Starlink terminals).

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook argues the total addressable market goes well beyond consumer use cases to include IoT, government, military, and rural tower displacement, illustrating with his own experience in a part of New York with no cell coverage despite residents having money, implying high potential ARPU in such areas.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook argues by analogy that if people like his friend pay $55 to $100/month for a Starlink backup system used only ~1% of the time, many consumers would easily pay $5-$10/month for backup cellular connectivity via AST SpaceMobile.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook says he continues to believe it's sensible that Meta could pursue some sort of relationship or deal with AST SpaceMobile to make WhatsApp work everywhere and give Meta more control over WhatsApp's functionality, though this is his own speculation and not confirmed.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook references the same X account ('Anpanman') doing ARPU-times-users-times-multiple math to arrive at a speculative upside price target around $2,500/share, saying he agrees with this analysis 'just this once' as an upside case rather than a base case — the stock doesn't need to reach that level for a good outcome.

Spectrum: Grain Management Approval

2
  • Kook Confirmed 00:13:24

    Kook reports Grain Management received FCC approval for 7 MHz by 7 MHz of spectrum, comparable to what Iridium holds (though domestic, not global), describing it as good low-band spectrum, with T-Mobile supporting the approval and AST SpaceMobile also listed as a supporter in the docket.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook says FCC Chairman Brendan Carr is demanding the spectrum be used for direct-to-cell (D2C) service and explicitly not for 'squatting,' which Kook interprets as directed at Charlie Ergen, and concludes this points toward AST SpaceMobile being able to negotiate a lease or profit-share arrangement with Grain Management for the spectrum, though he notes a competing theory that it could be used for utility applications instead.

Competitive Landscape: SpaceX, Rocket Lab, and Viasat

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  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook argues pressure is building on SpaceX from multiple directions: increasing competition from Kuiper in fixed broadband, the hope that SpaceX loses its T-Mobile direct-to-cell contract to AST SpaceMobile, and a wave of incoming rocket capacity from competitors, predicting a possible 'SpaceX squeeze' over the next couple of months as Starlink's IPO-related lockups approach.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook notes India is also increasing rocket power, which he says would seem to allow the LVM3 vehicle (used for AST's prior launch) to carry 3 BlueBirds instead of fewer, and speculates this could foreshadow an Indian joint venture similar to Japan's, plus additional local-content-driven launch capacity in India.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook says Rocket Lab's roughly $8 billion acquisition of Iridium — reversing founder Peter Beck's previously stated position against such a deal — looks like a 'desperation move' driven by seeing SpaceX's, Blue Origin's, and AST SpaceMobile's progress, and mocks people in the Rocket Lab community only now discovering Iridium's narrowband satellite-phone service as if it were novel.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook says all questions now turn to Viasat, viewed as the 'next one to go,' with an unclear buyer; he speculates AST SpaceMobile could reach a deal with Viasat for its global S-band spectrum (potentially via an activist campaign) to pair with its Ligado spectrum position, but says 'we'll find out.'

Closing Outlook

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  • Kook Speculation 00:13:24

    Kook says next week he expects a formal J.Leo announcement and news that 'Batch 2' satellites are shipping, calling these the main catalysts that would make for an exciting week.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:13:24

    Kook notes the Batch 1 satellites are currently in the process of unfurling, based on TLE tracking data he has been watching but hasn't been posting about while traveling.

Watch Items4

  • Formal J.Leo (Japan) contract announcement

    next week (as of July 6, 2026 episode) Kook 00:13:24
  • Announcement that 'Batch 2' satellites are shipping

    next week (as of July 6, 2026 episode) Kook 00:13:24
  • Batch 1 satellites completing their unfurling process

    in progress, ongoing per TLE tracking data Kook 00:13:24
  • Possible formal multi-launch agreement with MHI (Japan) for additional satellite capacity

    not dated; Kook's expectation based on current trend Kook 00:01:22

Open Questions4

  • How exactly will the $2 billion J.Leo gross investment figure be structured, and what does it mean for AST SpaceMobile's economics versus Rakuten's?

    Kook 00:01:22
  • Whether AST SpaceMobile will end up in a spectrum deal with Viasat (e.g., via an activist campaign) for its global S-band holdings.

    Kook 00:13:24
  • Whether India's rocket-capacity upgrade will lead to a dedicated Indian joint venture similar to Japan's RAST structure.

    Kook 00:13:24
  • Whether the Grain Management spectrum will ultimately be used for AST SpaceMobile's direct-to-cell service or for an alternative use such as utility applications.

    Kook 00:13:24
2026-07-02 45:40

Grain Management Just Got FCC Approval — And AST SpaceMobile Is the Only Winner

Anpanman · Tanner (Unidentified guest)

Anpanman covers the FCC's July 2, 2026 approval of the Grain Management spectrum transaction (7x7 MHz of 800 MHz spectrum swapped from T-Mobile), breaking live during the recording.

He argues AST SpaceMobile's letter of support in the docket effectively locks AST in as Grain's spectrum partner, given a 30-day negotiation deadline and no viable rival.

He also covers a Wall Street Journal report on an alleged SpaceX AI device/OS, arguing it strategically raises AST's value as the only real counter to a vertically-integrated SpaceX/Starlink threat to Apple, Google and the major US carriers.

The episode closes with Anpanman's outlook on analyst upgrades, record short interest, and an August catalyst stack (Q3 update, BlueBird 11-13 launch, SpaceX's August 20 lockup expiry) that he expects to trigger a violent stock re-rating.

Key Takeaways

  • On July 2, 2026, the FCC approved a transaction letting private-equity-backed Grain Management acquire 7 MHz x 7 MHz of 800 MHz spectrum (originally swapped from T-Mobile in 2025), including a roughly 12-year extension on Grain's buildout deadline; the approval broke live during this recording.
  • AST SpaceMobile filed a letter of support in the FCC docket for the Grain transaction, joined by a letter from Senator Ted Cruz; Anpanman argues this positions AST as the de facto buildout partner since Grain committed to reach a negotiated spectrum deal within 30 days of approval.
  • The Grain 800 MHz spectrum sits contiguously next to the 850 MHz low-band spectrum AT&T and Verizon have already contributed to AST, letting AST's BlueBird satellites combine multiple bands into one more robust, wall-penetrating cellular layer.
  • AST's FCC letter disclosed that more than 80% of the Block 2 satellites needed for this frequency band are already in production and that AST has secured launch contracts sufficient to deploy the entire planned constellation.
  • AST's letter stated Block 1 satellites have reached speeds of 98 Mbps, while Block 2 satellites (four currently in orbit, three more launching soon) are expected to deliver speeds of 'hundreds of megabits per second,' enabling 5G-class connectivity.
  • T-Mobile sold its 800 MHz spectrum to Grain in 2025 for Grain's 600 MHz licenses, $2.9 billion in cash, and an upside stake in future monetization of the 800 MHz band, giving T-Mobile a direct financial interest in seeing it deployed via AST.
  • Anpanman says T-Mobile has reportedly been walking away from Starlink and joining an AT&T/Verizon joint venture with AST SpaceMobile, and argues this is directly tied to T-Mobile's economic stake in the Grain spectrum being deployed through AST.
  • A Wall Street Journal report claimed SpaceX is developing its own AI-focused device and operating system as a smartphone alternative; Elon Musk denied the report, but Anpanman argues it raises AST's strategic value as the primary counter available to Apple, Google, and MNOs against a vertically-integrated SpaceX/Starlink threat.
  • Anpanman expects analyst upgrades — reversing a wave of downgrades from late May 2026 tied to the BlueBird 7 launch loss and a Blue Origin pad explosion — to arrive around AST's Q3 update in August 2026, coinciding with the planned BlueBird 11/12/13 launch.
  • Anpanman flags August 20, 2026 as the date of SpaceX's first insider lockup expiry (an initial 20-30% tranche of shares becoming sellable), which he expects to trigger unwinding of bank-arranged hedge baskets tied to AST stock against a backdrop of all-time-high ASTS short interest.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Grain Management background and the T-Mobile spectrum swap

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:41

    Grain Management is a private-equity-backed investment firm; Anpanman notes he only did cursory research and doesn't have all the background details confirmed.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:41

    Grain Management participated in a 600 MHz spectrum auction years ago and won licenses; T-Mobile also won a substantial number of licenses in that band and wanted to consolidate its holdings (Anpanman flags this recollection as uncertain, 'I believe').

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:41

    In a deal Anpanman dates to around May of the prior year, T-Mobile swapped its 800 MHz spectrum to Grain in exchange for Grain's 600 MHz licenses (to help T-Mobile consolidate that band), $2.9 billion in cash, plus an upside-sharing arrangement if the 800 MHz spectrum is later monetized via lease or sale.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:41

    The Grain-T-Mobile deal was announced in March 2025; Grain then filed its FCC application around May 30, 2025, and the review took about 13 months, which Anpanman says is a normal FCC timeline for this type of transaction.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:41

    As part of its FCC application, Grain requested a roughly 12-year extension of the spectrum's buildout deadline and approval of the change-of-control needed to become the new licensee.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:41

    Because T-Mobile retains an economic upside stake in the 800 MHz spectrum, Anpanman argues T-Mobile has a direct financial interest in seeing it deployed, and ties this to reports that T-Mobile is walking away from Starlink and joining an AT&T/Verizon joint venture with AST SpaceMobile, calling it 'not by chance.'

EchoStar, SpaceX, and the new satellite buildout framework

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:06:56

    On May 12, 2026, the FCC approved SpaceX's purchase of AWS-3 spectrum from EchoStar in a notably fast approval, in contrast to the 13-month Grain review.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:06:56

    EchoStar had previously received multiple exemptions on mobile network buildout requirements (coverage thresholds rising from roughly 35% to 50%, 75%, then 85% of the US population) and failed to meet them, prompting the FCC to threaten a 'use it or lose it' revocation.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:06:56

    This pushed EchoStar's Charlie Ergen to approach MDA Space about using a satellite constellation to meet coverage requirements via direct-to-device — a framework the FCC had never previously had to formally consider.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:06:56

    Ergen's position was effectively rescued when AST's Ligado transaction (January 2025) drove up the value of MSS/S-band spectrum, leading SpaceX to acquire EchoStar's spectrum instead.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:06:56

    This kicked off a wave of MSS spectrum consolidation: SpaceX acquiring EchoStar, Amazon announcing a deal for Globalstar, and, in the week of this episode, Rocket Lab announcing an acquisition of Meridian.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:06:56

    In approving the SpaceX-EchoStar deal, the FCC for the first time allowed a satellite constellation to count toward a spectrum holder's terrestrial mobile buildout requirements — the same precedent Grain Management then leaned on with its AST partnership.

FCC approval breaking live

3
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:22

    The FCC's approval of the Grain Management transaction broke live during the recording; Anpanman reacted to it in real time, calling it huge news.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:13:29

    AST's letter of support and a separate letter from Senator Ted Cruz — who has been pushing for utilization of this spectrum — were both filed in the docket supporting the transaction.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:31

    AST already holds a lease on AT&T and Verizon's 850 MHz spectrum; Anpanman expects AST will similarly obtain a lease on Grain's 800 MHz spectrum, creating one contiguous cellular band with strong wall-penetration and broadband capability.

AST's letter of support: production, launch contracts, and speed milestones

6
  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:36

    AST's letter states it can already utilize this type of spectrum given 10 satellites currently in operation, with 3 more about to launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:36

    Anpanman expects AST to file an application for experimental testing of the Grain spectrum within the next few days, and says he will add that to his catalyst tracker.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:36

    AST's letter disclosed that more than 80% of the Block 2 satellites needed for this specific frequency band are already in production.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:36

    AST's letter states the company has launch contracts covering everything needed to deploy the entire planned constellation, though Anpanman notes uncertainty remains around the timing of Blue Origin's launches and expects AST to add further Falcon 9 launches for 2027.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:13:36

    Blue Origin's David Limp has been giving public day-by-day updates on the rebuild of launch pad SLC-36A at Cape Canaveral.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:36

    AST's letter states Block 1 satellites have reached speeds of 98 megabits per second, while Block 2 satellites (four currently in orbit, three more about to launch) are expected to deliver 'hundreds of megabits per second,' enabling 5G connectivity; Anpanman guesses this likely means roughly 200 Mbps, possibly north of 300 Mbps with AI-based optimization.

Grain buildout requirements and the 30-day deadline

3
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:16:26

    Attachment A of the approval lays out three buildout milestones: Year 1 requires 90% geographic coverage with 200 kbps uplink / 300 kbps downlink per beam; Year 2 requires 90% coverage with 400 kbps uplink / 350 kbps downlink; the final milestone (8 years out) requires 90% coverage with 600 kbps uplink / 700 kbps downlink.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:26

    Grain committed to reach a negotiated spectrum deal with an interested party within 30 days of FCC approval; Anpanman calls this effectively 'tailor-made' for AST since Starlink has no cellular-band satellite roadmap and Lynk (roughly 10-13 satellites, no funding raised) can't meet the milestones on day one.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:26

    Anpanman speculates the Grain spectrum will ultimately be folded into a broader AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon joint venture with AST rather than remain a standalone bilateral lease, and argues AST won't be squeezed on the assumed 50/50 economic split given its strategic importance as the carriers' counter to Starlink.

Spectrum strategy, Starlink's limitations, and AST's position

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:56

    Anpanman argues Grain 'needs AST more than AST needs Grain' — AST already has AT&T/Verizon spectrum and partnerships, so the Grain deal is a 'nice to have' that makes the service more robust rather than a necessity.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:19:56

    Phased-array satellites are purpose-built for specific frequency ranges: AST's Block 1/2 satellites operate in the 600-900 MHz low-band range, future mid-band BlueBirds are expected to work in roughly 1.5-2.4 GHz, and Starlink's current satellites work with T-Mobile on the 1.9 GHz PCS G-block, with its next generation expected to add S-band (~2 GHz and slightly higher).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:56

    Anpanman argues Starlink can't realistically assemble enough low-band spectrum to justify building a low-band satellite, since MNOs won't lease or sell their low-band spectrum to a direct competitor; he notes ATEX, a company holding some low-band spectrum, has seen speculative investor interest as a potential monetization play.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:56

    Responding to an audience question on revenue potential, Anpanman runs the math on a $5/month ARPU assumption ($60/year per connection) times roughly 1 billion connections, yielding about $60 billion in revenue at an assumed 80-90% EBITDA margin; he argues 1 billion connections is likely a bearish (too low) assumption once multiple devices per person (phones, watches, laptops), IoT, and military/drone applications are counted, comparing to Iridium and Globalstar charging roughly $20-30/month for narrowband IoT devices.

SpaceX's alleged AI device and the threat to Apple and Google

4
  • Anpanman Rumor 00:30:21

    A Wall Street Journal article, sourced from multiple people including investors, reported that SpaceX is developing a slim AI/edge-compute device and its own operating system as a potential smartphone alternative or augment; Elon Musk denied the report.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:21

    Anpanman argues this is a direct strategic threat to Apple, Google, and Samsung, since owning a proprietary OS and device is the platform from which SpaceX/xAI could expand into other hardware categories (watches, tablets, computers), and connects it to X's broader ambitions such as X Money going live as part of a super-app strategy.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:21

    Anpanman argues this raises AST's strategic value, since Apple (which has been testing with AST) and Google (an AST strategic investor) both need a credible counter to a vertically-integrated SpaceX/Starlink threat, and MNOs need AST as their own competitive response to Starlink amid depressed carrier stock prices.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:30:21

    Per the same WSJ reporting, the U.S. 'Department of War' reportedly asked Starlink to provide internet connectivity to everyday citizens in Iran, and Starlink's proposal reportedly required a $500 million upfront fee plus $100 million per month; Anpanman notes Starlink still can't serve unmodified mobile phones directly, which only AST can do, given the age and type of phones typically in use there.

Analyst upgrades, short interest, and the summer catalyst stack

4
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:38:26

    Most analyst price-target changes and downgrades occurred at the end of May 2026, following the BlueBird 7 launch failure (Blue Origin issue) and a subsequent Blue Origin launch pad explosion, which were negative catalysts at the time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:38:26

    Anpanman expects analysts who downgraded the stock to reverse course with upgrades in the coming weeks and months, likely timed around AST's Q3 update in August 2026, which coincides with the planned BlueBird 11/12/13 launch.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:38:26

    Goldman Sachs traded 1.7 million ASTS shares on the day of recording, the largest reported trader of volume; Anpanman explains that multiple banks (not just Goldman) offer customized basket-swap products letting investors hedge correlated positions, such as SpaceX-related exposure, via a single security for a small fee.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:38:26

    Anpanman doesn't expect these hedge baskets to unwind until SpaceX's first lockup expiry around August 20, 2026, when an initial tranche of roughly 20-30% of shares becomes sellable; he expects this to coincide with all-time-high ASTS short interest starting to unwind, calling the combination of catalysts 'awesome' for the summer.

Audience Q&A

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:44:13

    Asked whether the Rural 5G Fund grant Scott Wisniewski previously mentioned is still a possibility, Anpanman says he's unsure but that it doesn't materially matter given the company's current progress — it would be nice to have, but AST won't wait around for it.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:44:13

    Asked whether the Homestead, Florida facility is operational yet, Anpanman says he isn't sure and hasn't heard an update recently, speculating it might serve as an integration facility, and says he'll check with the community.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:44:13

    Asked whether SpaceX would have to disclose an internal AI device project to the public, Anpanman says a public company doesn't have to disclose trade secrets, only material partnerships or contracts.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:44:13

    Asked when beta service might begin, Anpanman says beta service is starting now with existing satellites and will expand intermittently as more BlueBirds come online, and that testing under a Special Temporary Authority for the Grain spectrum should begin soon given FCC Chairman Carr's fast-moving posture on approvals.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:44:13

    Asked if the Grain deal is a precursor to a T-Mobile agreement, Anpanman clarifies T-Mobile doesn't own the Grain spectrum but holds an economic stake in it, and speculates T-Mobile saw AT&T and Verizon's pooled 850 MHz spectrum plus AST partnership as a superior offering and didn't want to be left behind, which he believes prompted AT&T CEO John Stankey (who first invited Verizon) to also bring in T-Mobile.

Watch Items6

  • Grain Management to reach a negotiated spectrum usage deal (expected lease) with AST

    within 30 days of the July 2, 2026 FCC approval Anpanman 00:16:26
  • AST files for a Special Temporary Authority (STA) to begin testing Grain's 800 MHz spectrum

    expected within the next few days Anpanman 00:13:36
  • AST Q3 company update, expected to coincide with analyst rating upgrades

    August 2026 Anpanman 00:38:26
  • BlueBird 11, 12, and 13 launch

    August 2026 Anpanman 00:38:26
  • SpaceX's first insider lockup expiry (initial 20-30% tranche of shares becomes sellable), expected to unwind hedge-fund short baskets on ASTS

    August 20, 2026 Anpanman 00:38:26
  • Beta commercial service rollout using existing and newly launched BlueBirds

    starting now, expanding intermittently as more satellites come online Anpanman 00:44:13

Open Questions5

  • How will the economics of an AST-Grain spectrum lease be split (fixed payments versus a percentage revenue share)?

    Anpanman 00:19:56
  • Will the Grain 800 MHz spectrum ultimately be folded into a broader AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture with AST, or remain a standalone bilateral lease?

    Anpanman 00:16:26
  • Is the Homestead, Florida facility operational yet?

    Anpanman 00:44:13
  • Is the previously-mentioned Rural 5G Fund grant still a realistic possibility for AST?

    Anpanman 00:44:13
  • Will Elon Musk's denial of the WSJ report on a SpaceX AI device hold up, or will the project eventually surface as reported?

    Anpanman 00:30:21
2026-07-01 54:32

Spectrum Wars: How AST SpaceMobile Became the Poison Pill Legacy Players Can't Escape

Anpanman

In this solo X Spaces episode from July 1, 2026, Anpanman (of the AST SpaceMobile Podcast/SpaceMob) argues that holding ASTS from roughly $2 up to $130 required a kind of 'delusional' conviction.

He then walks through how legacy satellite players ViaSat, Iridium, and Globalstar — once vocal skeptics of direct-to-device — have seen their spectrum holdings dramatically revalued because of AST's pioneering work, especially the January 2025 Ligado L-band deal.

He frames AST's 80-year North American L-band rights as an effective 'poison pill' against any rival building a global D2D constellation. He previews a packed summer 2026 catalyst calendar: Japan's J-LEO project approval, BlueBird 11-13 shipment/launch, a possible Mitsubishi Heavy launch agreement, and a possible T-Mobile deal.

He closes by flagging AST's supportive FCC letter on Grain Management's 800 MHz spectrum as a bullish signal. The headline conclusion is that AST's strategic value is compounding as Starlink's push into terrestrial mobile pushes global carriers toward AST partnerships.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's stock ran from roughly $2 (when equity value was about $600-700 million against roughly $100 million of cash) up to as high as $130, and Anpanman argues that only 'delusional' long-term conviction let holders stay through years of FUD from short sellers and skeptical satellite-industry executives.
  • Legacy satellite operators ViaSat, Iridium, and Globalstar spent years publicly dismissing direct-to-device connectivity as a real market, but their L-band and MSS spectrum holdings have since been dramatically revalued because AST proved D2D technically viable — meaning critics like ViaSat's Mark Dankberg, Iridium's Matt Desch, and Globalstar's Paul Jacobs stand to profit from the very trend they doubted.
  • AST's January 2025 deal with Ligado — paying roughly $500 million plus ongoing payments for 80-year rights to 40-45 MHz of L-band spectrum in the US and Canada — is described by Anpanman as an effective 'poison pill': anyone wanting to build a global L-band D2D constellation cannot do so profitably without the North American market, which AST controls.
  • ViaSat tried, by Anpanman's account, two or three times in US bankruptcy court and in Delaware court to unwind or renegotiate the Ligado spectrum deal after seeing how much value the market assigned to it; the courts ruled against ViaSat and held it to the original terms each time.
  • Rocket Lab's planned acquisition of Iridium is framed as freeing Iridium's cash flows to be reinvested into network innovation rather than paid out as a dividend, a reversal of Iridium's prior CapEx-holiday/dividend strategy under Matt Desch, though it also appears to have caused Rocket Lab to abandon a prior commitment to the ViaSat/Space42 'Equitas' satellite venture.
  • A busy summer 2026 catalyst list was previewed: formal approval/announcement of Japan's J-LEO project (a Rakuten-AST joint venture called 'RAST') expected mid-to-late July, BlueBird 11-13 shipment and a possible early-August launch, a possible Mitsubishi Heavy multi-launch agreement tied to the J-LEO announcement, and possible progress toward a T-Mobile agreement.
  • Anpanman described a recurring 'federated constellation' global joint-venture playbook — local satellites funded/owned by country- or region-specific JVs (Japan's RAST, Europe's SatCo, and potentially Brazil, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia) that AST can lease and use commercially whenever those satellites are not over their home market.
  • AST SpaceMobile publicly submitted a letter supporting the FCC's effort (with backing from Senator Ted Cruz) to bring Grain Management's 800 MHz spectrum into 5G mobile use, which Anpanman reads as a strong signal AST could become a counterparty for that spectrum in direct-to-device service.
  • Anpanman argues Starlink's increasingly public push into direct-to-consumer terrestrial mobile service is paradoxically raising AST's strategic value with international carriers like KDDI, NTT Docomo, and SoftBank, who may look more seriously at partnering with the Rakuten-AST joint venture as a hedge.
  • AST short interest ticked up slightly to about 87.3 million shares (2.5% of float), which Anpanman flagged as a new all-time high in absolute share count even as the stock itself sat near an all-time high.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Investor Psychology: 'Delusional' as a Badge of Honor

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:26

    Short sellers, skeptics, and industry incumbents have called SpaceMob and space investors generally 'delusional'; Anpanman says he takes that as a compliment because it took real mental fortitude to invest in the space sector for five-plus years before it was popular.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:26

    He recalls the stock's dark period when it traded down near $2, with the company's equity value around $600-700 million against roughly $100 million of cash on hand, before re-rating all the way up to as high as $130; he says most in the community held a material core position throughout.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:26

    Founder Abel Avellan started the AST SpaceMobile idea back in 2017 — a large phased-array satellite (2.5-3 tons) that folds into a standard rocket fairing to connect directly to everyday, unmodified mobile phones — which legacy players dismissed as impossible at the time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:26

    He names early critics who he says actively tried to sabotage the company via opinion pieces and international regulatory petitions — citing 'Tim Ferriss' (likely a mis-transcription of satellite analyst Tim Farrar), Alan Gottlieb, and Ken Miller of Lynk — and credits early strategic investors Cisneros, Rakuten, American Tower, and Bell Canada, plus Rakuten's Mickey Mikitani personally, for backing the company through that period.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:26

    He compares AST conviction to holding Nvidia, Amazon, or memory names like Micron/SanDisk early, arguing that in hindsight everyone claims the thesis was obvious, when in reality it took 'delusional' conviction to hold through the uncertainty at the time.

Legacy Satellite Players' Spectrum Revival (ViaSat, Iridium, Globalstar, EchoStar)

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:03:26

    He references a meme (posted by 'Tut') showing Globalstar, Iridium, and ViaSat as doomed, alongside their June 26, 2024 stock prices: AST at $11.22 (its breakout year), ViaSat down 55% year-to-date to $12.38, Iridium down 35% to $26.34, and Globalstar down 45% to about $1.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:26

    Unlike a typical disruption story where incumbents simply lose share, ViaSat, Iridium, and Globalstar's spectrum holdings became more valuable specifically because AST (and later Starlink) proved out the direct-to-device market, even as their core service businesses were disrupted.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:26

    He draws a parallel to EchoStar, calling it 'worth more dead than alive': the stock dipped to around $17 during Charlie Ergen's standoff with the FCC over spectrum use, but after agreeing to sell its AWS-3 spectrum (roughly 50 MHz) to SpaceX, EchoStar now trades around $102 — even though that deal isn't expected to close until the end of summer 2027.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:03:26

    He names ViaSat's Mark Dankberg, Iridium's Matt Desch, and Globalstar's Paul Jacobs (and predecessor Jay Munro) as executives who publicly downplayed direct-to-device as not a real or large enough market, while Iridium in particular told investors it would raise dividends and take a CapEx holiday instead of investing in D2D.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:03:26

    Iridium's attempt to bring phone connectivity via 'Project Stardust' with Qualcomm was killed quickly because handset makers didn't want to pay for a proprietary chipset, and mobile carriers objected to a competing satellite phone service being placed on handsets.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:07:56

    He claims Globalstar has been paying 'Tim Ferriss' (likely Tim Farrar) over the years to spread FUD about AST SpaceMobile, and that Alan Gottlieb wrote a detailed 2021 article claiming AST's satellites couldn't close their link budget and would 'melt in space' — claims Anpanman says scared him early on but which proved wrong.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:56

    He estimates (with uncertainty, saying he needs to double-check) that Globalstar holds full-duplex dedicated spectrum of roughly 15 MHz downlink and about 6-7 MHz uplink.

The Ligado Deal and 'Spectrum Alchemy'

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:07:56

    In January 2025, AST struck a deal with Ligado, which holds 40-45 MHz of L-band spectrum in the US and Canada: AST agreed to pay Ligado's creditor obligations (approximately $500 million, largely owed to ViaSat) to keep the spectrum out of ViaSat's hands, plus ongoing monthly payments for 80-year usage rights, plus a revenue share of the North American constellation's service revenue.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:07:56

    Ligado had spent years trying and failing to build a terrestrial L-band broadband business despite FCC approval, due to interference objections from the Department of War and GPS/Wi-Fi interests over higher-power terrestrial use; AST's large phased arrays can deliver tightly controlled beams that avoid that interference, which Anpanman calls 'spectrum alchemy' that unlocked the spectrum's value.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:07:56

    ViaSat traded around $7-$7.50 (distressed levels) before the Ligado deal, spiked to almost $10 on the announcement, then settled back; it wasn't until around August 2025, when AST's payments actually hit Ligado (and flowed to ViaSat), that ViaSat re-rated meaningfully — first to the mid-teens, then to about $28 after the cash landed, and he says it now trades around $90.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:56

    He argues ViaSat's core businesses (e.g., commercial-airline broadband) are being hammered by Starlink, so the stock is now valued mainly on its spectrum holdings, with the market assuming ViaSat eventually strikes some deal (the failed Rocket Lab-anchored Equitas/Space42 venture, possibly MDA Space, or AST itself).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:56

    He argues SpaceX won't buy ViaSat, Iridium, or Globalstar because SpaceX is mid-acquisition of about 50 MHz of AWS-3 spectrum from EchoStar (not expected to close until end of summer 2027), and layering on more spectrum deals during that regulatory review would raise anti-competitive concerns.

Rocket Lab's Acquisition of Iridium

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:26

    Rocket Lab's planned acquisition of Iridium is framed as a fix for Iridium's 'catch-22': Iridium had loaded up on debt and promised a fat dividend, making it hard to redirect cash into innovation, whereas Rocket Lab's shareholders don't expect a dividend and are used to heavy reinvestment (he cites Peter Beck reportedly saying about 95% of Rocket Lab's R&D budget goes to the Neutron rocket).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:14:26

    Iridium's roughly 2.2 million subscribers pay a premium for mission-critical connectivity, but the real value is sticky US military contracts (e.g., drone connectivity); the Department of War wants redundant constellations across GEO/MEO/LEO (Starshield, Starlink, Iridium, AST, a future Globalstar) in case one network is taken down.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:26

    Amazon/Globalstar's path forward beyond its committed MDA-built replenishment and next-generation satellites is unclear, in Anpanman's view.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:26

    Because Rocket Lab chose to acquire Iridium instead, it appears to have 'slow-rolled' and abandoned its prior commitment to anchor the ViaSat/Space42 'Equitas' joint venture, leaving that venture without a partner ('at the altar with no groom').

The 80-Year L-Band 'Poison Pill' and ViaSat's Failed Court Challenges

5
  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:33:26

    After seeing the market's positive reaction to the Ligado deal, ViaSat had 'seller's remorse' and went to US bankruptcy court and Delaware court — Anpanman says two or three times — to try to unwind or renegotiate the agreement, claiming AST was providing services beyond what had been agreed; the courts sided with AST/Ligado and held ViaSat to the original terms each time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    He argues AST's 80-year rights to use L-band spectrum in North America function as an effective 'poison pill': any rival trying to build a global L-band direct-to-device constellation cannot access the most profitable market in the world (North America) without going through AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    He compares the stalled ViaSat/Space42 Equitas venture to Charlie Ergen's earlier EchoStar playbook of threatening to build a competing D2D service (with MDA Space) to force a buyer to pay up for spectrum — a leverage play that worked when Starlink eventually paid Ergen's price.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:26

    His expectation is that ViaSat and AST eventually strike a spectrum-leasing arrangement rather than a merger or acquisition, since AST already anchors the most valuable (North American) piece of the spectrum.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:33:26

    EU regulators are reallocating 2 GHz S-band spectrum, and ViaSat and EchoStar have the most to lose there; the EU gave them a two-year grace period (until May 2027) before transitioning that spectrum to new winners. ViaSat uses that spectrum for commercial-airline connectivity, a business Anpanman says is being eroded by Starlink, citing United and Lufthansa moving away from ViaSat.

Summer 2026 Catalyst Setup: J-LEO, BlueBirds, T-Mobile, Financing

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:23:26

    The Japan J-LEO award was granted to Rakuten and the Rakuten-AST joint venture ('RAST'), not to AST directly, so it's Rakuten's process and timeline to communicate — pushing back on complaints that AST is 'bad at PR' for not announcing it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:26

    Per his understanding of the process, Rakuten must submit detailed plans (launch, technology, ground infrastructure, budget, timeline) to Japan's CIAJ and MIC for review, possibly with feedback/revisions, before formal approval lets the J-LEO project begin executing; based on 'ChatGPT AI analysis of historic precedent,' he guesses a formal approval declaration lands sometime mid-to-end of July 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:26

    He says the next BlueBird mission (BlueBirds 11-13) could launch around the first week of August, meaning satellites likely need to start shipping soon — 'perhaps as soon as this weekend.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:26

    He expects possible press rumblings about a T-Mobile definitive commercial agreement, or at least an MOU, in the near term.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:26

    He would 'not be surprised' if a multi-launch agreement (MLA) with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is signed alongside the formal J-LEO announcement, speculating that Japanese regulators would want to see a launch agreement in place before approving the project.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:26

    He plans to ask on the next earnings call about the amount and timing of Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC) or Export-Import financing for the JV, noting the JV doesn't need to be funded with equity/cash and can use matched debt; he also references AST previously pursuing roughly $500 million in US Export-Import Bank financing, which he speculates could be fully realized since Japan would need to purchase BlueBird satellites (qualifying for export financing).

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:23:26

    He relays that Scott Wisniewski (President/Chief Strategy Officer) said in a recent public talk that AST sees no need for additional convertible-debt financing and will instead look to commercial prepayments to fund the rest of the constellation, though the company might still keep an ATM program 'in the back pocket.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:26

    He frames the J-LEO structure — roughly $1 billion of financing over three years plus a likely matching ~$1 billion of JBIC-backed side-by-side debt — as a template other sovereignty-minded countries/regions will likely replicate, citing Europe's SatCo (expected 2 GHz spectrum, 5x5 or 10x10 MHz, with possible European funding), Brazil (Anatel approval plus 10x10 MHz S-band), Mexico (testing with Altán Redes, which holds 45x45 MHz of 700 MHz spectrum, and a possible JV given AST's relationship with Carlos Slim), and Saudi Telecom (which committed roughly $1 billion of economic value in its 10-year commercial deal and could become a Middle East JV partner).

Federated Constellation / Global Joint-Venture Model

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:48:24

    Answering a listener question, he explains that Japanese-owned satellites ('Japan Birds') will be fully owned and operated by the Japan JV but leased to AST for commercial use elsewhere (Europe, US) when they are not positioned over Japan, letting the JV amortize costs while AST gains capacity someone else paid for.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:48:24

    He compares this to Planet Labs' deal with JSAT, in which JSAT paid Planet Labs roughly $230 million for exclusive use of Pelican satellites over Japan, while Planet Labs retained the economic benefit of that capacity everywhere else.

Starlink's Terrestrial Mobile Push and AST's Rising Strategic Value

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:48:24

    He cites a Nikkei article (which he hasn't yet read himself, only via his English-language subscription) reportedly describing Elon Musk/Starlink entering the terrestrial mobile business directly, arguing this pushes carrier executives at KDDI, NTT Docomo, and SoftBank to reconsider or deepen partnerships with the Rakuten-AST JV, and that this dynamic will repeat in every country/region.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:48:24

    He argues SpaceX's stock being down about 7% on the day (while AST and other space names were up) partly reflects the market starting to treat SpaceX as an AI-compute-leasing company (with Anthropic, Google, and other AI contracts potentially making up 60-70% of future SpaceX revenue) rather than a pure space company, especially after Meta announced entering the AI compute-as-a-service business, pressuring 'NeoCloud' names like IREN, NBIS, and MARA; he speculates hedge funds may need to rebalance SpaceX-linked short baskets away from space names and toward NeoCloud names.

Grain Management 800 MHz Spectrum and AST's FCC Support Letter

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:48:24

    He flags that AST SpaceMobile publicly submitted a letter commending the FCC's efforts to bring the Grain Management 800 MHz spectrum band into use for 5G mobile service, with strong support from Senator Ted Cruz; AST currently uses adjacent 850 MHz federated spectrum with AT&T and Verizon, and he guesses this Grain Management spectrum could get incorporated into AST's direct-to-device plans, making AST a likely counterparty.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:48:24

    He argues Starlink is disadvantaged in competing for this spectrum because the FCC approval requires quick deployment for direct-to-device, and Starlink's satellites aren't architected for low-band spectrum — guessing (explicitly making up numbers) that Starlink can only work in roughly the 1.7-2.5 GHz PCS/S-band MSS range, and noting the next-generation Starlink V3 satellite (5m x 5m) is too small for an effective low-band phased array.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:48:24

    He notes AST's short interest ticked up slightly to about 87.3 million shares (2.5%), which he calls a new all-time high in absolute share count.

Listener Q&A: T-Mobile JV, Gen 3 Satellites

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:50

    Asked whether a T-Mobile agreement faces the same 'iron out the details before announcing' dynamic, he clarifies this refers to a joint venture involving AT&T and Verizon; details are still being finalized, and once it goes definitive it will be a major catalyst effectively signaling those carriers are walking away from Starlink, subject to regulatory review and approval.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:47:50

    Asked about Gen 2 vs. Gen 3 satellite differences, he says management hasn't disclosed Gen 3 details, but has indicated Gen 3 will target mid-band spectrum (roughly 1.5 GHz up to as high as 2.4-2.6 GHz per various presentations), share the same form factor as Block 2, and project a smaller number of cell beams individually but far more cell beams in total.

Watch Items8

  • Formal approval/announcement of Japan's J-LEO project (Rakuten-AST JV, 'RAST')

    mid-to-end of July 2026 (Anpanman's guess based on 'AI analysis of historic precedent') Anpanman 00:23:26
  • BlueBird 11-13 shipment and launch

    shipping possibly as soon as the July 4-5 weekend; launch possibly first week of August 2026 Anpanman 00:23:26
  • Possible T-Mobile definitive commercial agreement or MOU

    not specified; expected in coming weeks Anpanman 00:23:26
  • Possible multi-launch agreement (MLA) with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries

    expected alongside the formal J-LEO project announcement Anpanman 00:23:26
  • Upcoming AST earnings call — question on JBIC/Ex-Im Bank financing for the Japan JV

    not specified (next earnings call) Anpanman 00:23:26
  • AT&T/Verizon joint venture with AST going definitive

    not specified; still being finalized Anpanman 00:47:50
  • EU 2 GHz S-band spectrum reallocation grace period for ViaSat/EchoStar

    ends May 2027 Anpanman 00:33:26
  • SpaceX's acquisition of ~50 MHz AWS-3 spectrum from EchoStar

    not expected to close until end of summer 2027 Anpanman 00:07:56

Open Questions6

  • How much, and on what timeline, will JBIC or US Export-Import Bank financing materialize for the Japan J-LEO joint venture?

    Anpanman 00:23:26
  • Will Rocket Lab still invest in or has it fully abandoned the ViaSat/Space42 'Equitas' joint venture now that it is acquiring Iridium?

    Anpanman 00:14:26
  • What ultimately happens to ViaSat's European 2 GHz spectrum given the 'use it or lose it' regulatory deadline?

    Anpanman 00:33:26
  • Will Grain Management's 800 MHz spectrum actually get incorporated into AST's direct-to-device spectrum plans?

    Anpanman 00:48:24
  • What are the full technical specifications and rollout timeline for AST's Gen 3 satellites?

    Anpanman 00:47:50
  • Will the AT&T/Verizon joint venture with AST go definitive, and will that signal those carriers walking away from Starlink?

    Anpanman 00:47:50
2026-06-29 32:03

Why AST SpaceMobile Is About to Own 100% of Japan's Satellite Market

Anpanman

In a solo, live-reaction episode recorded the morning after a Nikkei report, Anpanman breaks down Japan's Nikkei newspaper report that the JLEO satellite project is expected to be awarded to the Rakuten/AST SpaceMobile joint venture. He argues the project's technical requirements were effectively written to exclude Starlink.

He walks through the cascading implications: full Japanese commercial approval, access to KDDI/NTT Docomo/SoftBank, a likely Mitsubishi Heavy launch deal, and non-dilutive JBIC/US Exim financing. He then predicts AST could eventually reach 100% market share in Japan.

The episode closes with tangential market news (Verizon-BT, Comcast's split, and a live Iridium trading halt) that Anpanman ties back to a broader telecom consolidation narrative favoring AST.

Key Takeaways

  • Japan's Nikkei newspaper (described as Japan's equivalent of the Wall Street Journal) reported that the JLEO satellite project is expected to be awarded to the Rakuten/AST SpaceMobile joint venture, though as of this episode the formal award had not yet been officially confirmed by the government, Rakuten, or AST.
  • Anpanman argues the JLEO project's technical requirements — working with unmodified smartphones, supporting video calls across Japan, and requiring fully domestic satellite/gateway control — were effectively impossible for Starlink to meet, while AST SpaceMobile's architecture already satisfies them.
  • If the award is confirmed, Anpanman expects it to trigger full commercial regulatory approval for AST/Rakuten in Japan and to open business with Japan's other three carriers (KDDI, NTT Docomo, SoftBank), beyond AST's prior exclusive, non-economic arrangement with Rakuten.
  • Anpanman predicts AST SpaceMobile could go from being the 'scrappy 4th player' in Japan to eventually capturing 100% market share there, though he says the market hasn't caught up to this yet (the stock was only up $5.30 on the news at the time of recording).
  • Anpanman expects the government-backed Japan joint venture to unlock non-dilutive financing through Japan's JBIC (the Japanese Export-Import Bank equivalent) and the US Export-Import Bank, since AST would be manufacturing and shipping BlueBird satellites to Japan.
  • A multi-launch agreement with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, using its H3 rocket, is described by Anpanman as near-certain as part of the JLEO constellation build-out.
  • Anpanman frames a 'federated satellite ownership' model — satellites owned/operated domestically but usable in AST's broader global constellation when not needed locally — as a template he expects to be repeated in Europe through the Satellite Connect Europe joint venture with Vodafone.
  • Separately, Verizon announced combining its international operations with British Telecom, and Comcast announced splitting its media business from its internet business; Anpanman ties both to a broader telecom/cable consolidation trend he believes ultimately benefits AST SpaceMobile.
  • Iridium's stock trading was halted live during the episode pending unspecified news, prompting real-time speculation (including a listener suggestion of Rocket Lab) about a possible acquisition; the episode ended without resolution.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Nikkei Report on the JLEO Award

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:26

    Nikkei, described as Japan's equivalent of the Wall Street Journal, reported that the JLEO project is expected to be awarded to the consortium of Rakuten and AST SpaceMobile; Anpanman calls this 'huge news' and says he believes it can 'pretty much be put in the bank' given Nikkei's reputation, though it is not yet an official confirmed award.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:26

    Anpanman could not access the full Nikkei article because registration requires a genuine Japanese name (his handle 'Anpanman' in English characters didn't qualify), and the article was not yet available on the English-language Nikkei Asia site at recording time; he plans to share it once accessible.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:26

    As of recording, the news was not being reported by Bloomberg or under Rakuten/AST SpaceMobile's own channels — only a few Twitter accounts had picked it up.

  • Anpanman Untagged 17:26

    ASTS stock was up $5.30 at the time of the livestream in reaction to the news, which Anpanman felt undersold the significance of the report.

What the JLEO/GEO Project Is

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:56

    The JLEO project was created out of the Japanese fiscal budget, which Anpanman believes was passed in fall 2025; the tender process opened in March 2026 and closed in May 2026, with an internal decision expected around the time of recording (late June 2026), though a formal award announcement wasn't expected for a few more weeks.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:56

    Supporting signals ahead of the Nikkei report: Rakuten's Mickey (Miki) gave a recent interview announcing formation of the Rakuten-AST joint venture, and Japan's MIC (the equivalent of the US FCC) approved the specific 3x3 MHz portion of the 700 MHz band for satellite communication to unmodified phones.

Technical Requirements That (Per Anpanman) Excluded Starlink

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  • Anpanman Speculation 03:16

    The JLEO project requires nationwide service availability to ordinary smartphone users by March 31, 2029 — a requirement Anpanman says Starlink's current or future constellation could never meet, since neither is architected to work with ordinary phones without a new chipset.

  • Anpanman Speculation 03:16

    The service must support video calls across Japan for roughly 70% of each day; Anpanman says Starlink's current service can't support this, and while a future Starlink constellation might, no one besides AST SpaceMobile has demonstrated true cross-carrier video calling to a mobile phone, and that demonstration was specifically in Japan.

  • Anpanman Speculation 03:16

    Anpanman disputes a widely circulated video of two Starlink engineers making a video call, arguing it was likely one engineer connected to the satellite beaming a signal directly down to the other engineer nearby — not a call routed over an MNO network across real geographic distance the way AST has demonstrated.

  • Anpanman Speculation 03:16

    AST expects to reach 100% daily video-call coverage (versus the ~70% JLEO requirement) sometime over the course of 2027, per Anpanman's own estimate.

  • Anpanman Speculation 03:16

    The winning service must use domestic (Japan-based) gateways, satellite control, payload control, and network control facilities so the constellation can be fully operated from Japan — something Anpanman says Starlink is neither architected for nor interested in doing.

Emergency/Disaster Coverage and Low-Band Spectrum

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  • Anpanman Untagged 05:26

    The service requires emergency roaming across participating Japanese mobile operators and roughly 16 hours a day of service, plus free voice, data, and SMS during qualifying disasters (e.g., earthquakes, tsunamis, or man-made disasters like a Fukushima-style nuclear meltdown).

  • Anpanman Untagged 05:26

    Low-band spectrum is the key enabler for reaching people (including those with older phones) trapped under buildings or behind obstructions during disasters, since it penetrates walls and tree canopies far better than mid-band spectrum — the same reason AST partners with FirstNet in the US.

Commercial Approval and Opening Up KDDI, NTT Docomo, SoftBank

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  • Anpanman Speculation 06:40

    Anpanman states winning the JLEO award should 'greenlight' full commercial approval for AST in Japan, which he expects sometime in August or September 2026 — distinct from the earlier MIC approval of the 700 MHz band itself for satellite use.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 06:40

    AST's prior arrangement with Rakuten (a Series B investor and early supporter) was a mutually exclusive, 'sweetheart' deal under which AST received no economics from Japan; the new government-backed JV would give AST economics in Japan plus access to the three other carriers — KDDI, NTT Docomo, and SoftBank.

  • Anpanman Speculation 06:40

    Anpanman speculates KDDI, NTT Docomo, and SoftBank will drop Starlink and join the government-backed JV instead, for competitive comfort and because of what they're seeing from Starlink's broader ambitions.

  • Anpanman Speculation 06:40

    Anpanman guesses the Japan JV will likely be structured similarly to Satellite Connect Europe, where Vodafone holds majority/controlling ownership (he floats 60/40 or 51/49 as illustrative splits) but AST receives a larger share of the economics; he expects a roughly 50/50 ownership structure in Japan with economics split differently in AST's favor.

Mitsubishi Heavy Launch Agreement

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  • Anpanman Speculation 09:26

    Anpanman says the JLEO award 'pretty much guarantees' a multi-launch agreement with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries will happen, potentially within the next few weeks or months, since the JLEO bid reportedly committed to using Japanese launch vehicles to support Japan's sovereign space program — something SpaceX/Starlink would never agree to.

  • Anpanman Speculation 09:26

    Anpanman guesses a good portion of the JV's roughly $1 billion in funding (spread over 3 years) will go toward launch costs, and speculates Mitsubishi Heavy might offer some discount if a multi-launch agreement is signed.

  • Anpanman Rumor 09:26

    Citing an unnamed Japanese social media account from over the weekend, Anpanman relays a claim that Mitsubishi Heavy is planning around 6 launches this year, potentially doubling or more next year, which he speculates is tied to this project.

  • Anpanman Untagged 09:26

    The Mitsubishi Heavy H3 rocket, in its heaviest configuration (Anpanman is unsure if it uses 4 or 6 solid rocket boosters), is capable of carrying 3 composite BlueBird satellites into low Earth orbit.

JBIC and US Exim Non-Dilutive Financing

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  • Anpanman Speculation 11:26

    Because the Japan JV would receive roughly $1 billion in government funding over 3 years, Anpanman argues the entity becomes 'bankable' and eligible for JBIC (Japan's Exim equivalent) supported debt/guarantees, as well as US Export-Import Bank financing on the US side since AST would be manufacturing and shipping BlueBird satellites to Japan.

  • Anpanman Speculation 11:26

    Public reporting says Rakuten and AST must contribute up to half of the JV's funding themselves; Anpanman speculates that this half could itself be raised as debt financing supported by the JV's government backing, rather than cash contributed directly.

  • Anpanman Untagged 11:26

    Anpanman says he intends to ask the company directly what JBIC and US Exim financing options become available on the Japanese side.

Federated Satellite Ownership Model and Global Template

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  • Anpanman Speculation 11:26

    Under the federated ownership model, Japanese-funded 'BlueBird' satellites would be fully owned and operated by Japan, but — similar to the Planet Labs/J-Sat partnership analogy — could be utilized by AST's broader global constellation when operating outside Japan.

  • Anpanman Speculation 11:26

    Anpanman says this federated model doesn't need to exist in the US (where the three US carriers are building their own joint venture) but will apply in Europe via Satellite Connect Europe, the AST-Vodafone JV.

  • Anpanman Speculation 11:26

    He connects this to a 30 MHz-by-30 MHz block of EU 2 GHz MSS spectrum coming up for renewal, which Starlink is also expected to pursue; Anpanman predicts Satellite Connect Europe will win a solid spectrum allocation and business, effectively creating 'the first net of Europe,' paralleling what he expects in Japan ('the first net of Japan').

  • Anpanman Speculation 11:26

    Rakuten previously received an allocation of the 700 MHz 'Platinum Band' in Japan as the startup 4th carrier, which is the spectrum underlying this JLEO service; Anpanman speculates additional Japanese spectrum could come up for future allocation and that this AST-Rakuten JV (now government-backed) would be the natural recipient.

100% Market Share Prediction

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  • Anpanman Speculation 06:40

    Anpanman predicts AST SpaceMobile is on a path to 100% market share in Japan, moving from being the 'scrappy 4th player' (via Rakuten) to serving all major carriers, and says he doesn't think the market currently understands the scale of this.

  • Anpanman Speculation 17:26

    Anpanman references having listened to part of a Kook-hosted X Space the prior night, noting that once people move past SpaceX IPO hype and start examining the competitive landscape, they'll realize AST SpaceMobile is a name they 'have to own.'

Adjacent Telecom/Cable Market News

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  • Anpanman Speculation 17:26

    Verizon announced combining its international operations with British Telecom for cost savings/synergies; Anpanman speculates that since BT currently works with Starlink only for fixed wireless to the home (no direct-to-device plans), BT will likely start working with AST SpaceMobile as well.

  • Anpanman Speculation 17:26

    Comcast announced splitting its media business from its internet business, sending Comcast's stock up; Charter's stock also rose, which Anpanman attributes partly to Starlink-related speculation and partly to expectations of broader cable industry consolidation (e.g., potentially combining Comcast internet with Spectrum/Charter internet) to build a nationally competitive cable player.

  • Anpanman Speculation 17:26

    Anpanman argues that cable companies (Comcast, Charter) should be talking to AST SpaceMobile rather than Starlink, since AST doesn't directly compete with their fiber/cable business the way Starlink does, and cable companies already resell MNO service (e.g., as an MVNO reselling Verizon/T-Mobile) — a natural path to eventually reselling AST SpaceMobile service too.

  • Anpanman Untagged 17:26

    Anpanman references a Financial Times article about Starlink's interest in moving into the terrestrial wireless service business as having been circulated to board members across telecom companies globally, and argues this dynamic increases AST SpaceMobile's strategic value daily.

  • Anpanman Rumor 17:26

    Mid-episode, Iridium's stock trading was halted with news pending; Anpanman speculated live about a possible acquisition, saying he'd be surprised if the acquirer were SpaceX due to antitrust/regulatory concerns, and noted a listener's guess that Rocket Lab could be the buyer; he also mentioned unverified pre-existing rumors from a speculative newsletter (James Altucher) about a potential Iridium deal, and noted heavy August $50-strike call open interest (about 19,990 contracts) from Friday's options activity. The episode ended without resolution on the Iridium news.

Watch Items4

  • Formal JLEO project award announcement to the Rakuten/AST SpaceMobile consortium

    Expected a few weeks after this recording Anpanman 00:26
  • Full commercial regulatory approval for AST/Rakuten in Japan

    Anpanman's estimate: August or September 2026 Anpanman 06:40
  • Multi-launch agreement with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries

    Anpanman's estimate: next few weeks or months Anpanman 09:26
  • Resolution of the Iridium trading halt / potential acquisition news

    Unfolding live at time of recording Anpanman 17:26

Open Questions4

  • What specific JBIC and US Export-Import Bank financing options will actually be available to fund the Japan JV's satellite purchases and buildout?

    Anpanman 11:26
  • What is the actual ownership and economic split structure of the Rakuten/AST Japan JV (e.g., 50/50 ownership with a different economic split, as in Satellite Connect Europe)?

    Anpanman 06:40
  • What additional Japanese spectrum beyond the existing 700 MHz 'Platinum Band' might come up for future allocation to this JV?

    Anpanman 11:26
  • Who, if anyone, is acquiring Iridium, given the live trading halt and pending news?

    Anpanman 17:26
2026-06-29 56:25

Is the J-LEO Contract About to Change Everything for AST SpaceMobile?

Kook

Kook delivers a solo, single-host breakdown of AST SpaceMobile following a volatile week that saw the stock capitulate toward $68 before ripping back on Friday. He argues investors should stay focused on fundamentals rather than SpaceX-IPO-driven noise.

He walks through FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's public praise of AST as the leader in direct-to-device technology, AST's ~13x array-size advantage over Starlink's D2C satellites, and a cluster of coincidental Japan developments: the Rakuten JV, 700 MHz spectrum approval, and an imminent J-LEO government contract.

He also covers SpaceX-IPO-related hedging dynamics that could fuel a short squeeze, accelerating launch cadence he calls AST's "Model 3 moment," speculative long-term AI-data-center-in-space economics, and Abel Avellan's low-dilution compensation structure.

His headline conclusion is that the fundamentals (regulatory tailwinds, spectrum wins, launch cadence, and the Japan opportunity) are accelerating even though none of it is yet reflected in the stock price.

Key Takeaways

  • This is a solo episode hosted by Kook (no Anpanman); he recorded it from a hotel room after a week in which AST SpaceMobile stock capitulated toward roughly $68 before rallying back on Friday at quarter-end.
  • FCC Chairman Brendan Carr publicly praised AST SpaceMobile as a leader in direct-to-device (D2D) technology at a conference, calling D2D one of the most significant technology advancements of the next few years and stating the FCC wants the US to lead the world in it — Kook reads this as a signal of broader regulatory tailwinds (e.g. for the Ligado L-band deal and potential T-Mobile spectrum approval).
  • AST's 243 planned Block 2 BlueBird satellites will carry roughly 54,000-55,000 square meters of combined phased-array antenna area, versus about 4,000 square meters across Starlink's 650 V1 direct-to-cell satellites — about 13 times the array area using roughly one-third the satellite count, which Kook frames as the core technological and economic advantage.
  • Year-to-date (as recapped from a Wave3Trades thread), AST has raised $3.5 billion of liquidity said to be sufficient to build out 100 satellites, received FCC regulatory approval, nearly doubled production capacity to a stated ability to build 10 satellites per month, and successfully launched and commanded three new Block 2 BlueBird satellites — despite the stock being red year-to-date as of last week.
  • Kook sees a cluster of coincidentally-timed Japan developments — a new Rakuten/AST joint venture, Japan's approval of the 700 MHz band for satellite use (a band Kook says only AST's large arrays can practically use), and an expected J-LEO government contract award — as pieces of a coordinated sovereign satellite strategy, though he stresses this is his own speculative connecting of the dots, not confirmed by the company.
  • Kook speculates (explicitly as a guess, not confirmed) that a Japanese government subsidy of roughly $1 billion could fund a purchase of about 20 AST satellites through the Rakuten JV, with a possible sale-leaseback structure where satellites are owned by a Japanese entity while over Japan and leased back to AST when not needed for Japanese coverage.
  • Kook argues the SpaceX IPO itself doesn't change SpaceX's competitive dynamics, but will force more investors and mobile carriers to directly compare AST and SpaceX, which he thinks favors AST if AST wins deals (like J-LEO) or customers (like T-Mobile) that SpaceX/Starlink loses.
  • Kook believes SpaceX-linked insiders and investors, restricted from directly hedging SpaceX stock, are likely shorting liquid space-sector proxies including AST SpaceMobile via baskets (he cites Goldman Sachs); he argues this creates 'basis risk' that could badly backfire if AST announces company-specific good news like a J-LEO win or a T-Mobile deal.
  • Kook says AST's stock-loan borrow cost is currently very cheap (not 'special') because shares are concentrated in large institutional blocks, which he views as a sign of stability, and expects SpaceX-related hedges to unwind — a potential source of AST buying pressure — once SpaceX's own lockup restrictions begin lifting in August.
  • Kook calls the current buildout phase AST's 'Model 3 moment,' drawing an analogy to Tesla's Model 3 launch and subsequent Shanghai/Germany plant openings, arguing that as AST proves it can actually manufacture and launch satellites at scale, the market will re-rate the stock the way it re-rated Tesla once execution risk resolved.
  • A meme Kook cites shows AST's time between satellite launches shrinking from about 2 years, to 15 months, to 4 months, and now roughly 2 months, with Kook expecting a roughly monthly launch cadence soon.
  • Kook discloses new detail on CEO Abel Avellan's stock-based compensation structure: a collar with a $60 floor and $112 cap, meaning Avellan only sells his own founder-owned stock (not company-issued dilutive awards) at $112, has the option to roll the structure later, and takes little to no material cash salary — Kook compares this favorably to Jeff Bezos's historical ~$80,000/year cash salary.

Detailed Discussion13 topics

Market Volatility and Staying the Course

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  • Kook Untagged 00:01:23

    Last week saw what looked like a capitulation move in the stock down toward roughly $68, prompting some holders to give up, before the stock started to rip back on Friday around quarter-end; Kook attributes some of the move to technical factors like possible SpaceX-related hedging/euphoria unwind and a broader tech/AI stock selloff.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:23

    Kook describes the psychological difficulty of holding through drawdowns (the temptation of the 'red button' to sell) and says he copes by studying the volatility history of other secular-trend winners he missed, which reinforces his long-term conviction ('diamond hands').

FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's Public Praise of AST

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:01:48

    FCC Chairman Brendan Carr, speaking at a conference, said that what AST SpaceMobile is doing in direct-to-device technology (going straight from a LEO satellite to a smartphone) is one of the more significant technology advancements taking place now and over the next couple of years, and that the FCC's leadership put a plan in place to make sure the United States leads the world in direct-to-device technology.

  • Kook Untagged 00:01:48

    Kook notes the irony that AST's stock crashed when Trump initially nominated Carr as FCC chair because investors feared he'd be hostile to AST — the opposite has proven true.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:48

    Kook interprets Carr's comments as signaling regulatory support beyond AST's current approvals, likely including approval of the Ligado 45 MHz L-band spectrum deal, a possible T-Mobile spectrum/JV approval, and other spectrum holders (e.g. Grain Management, SiriusXM) seeking to upgrade their spectrum economics — framed explicitly as his own forward-looking read, not a company statement.

Array Size Advantage vs. Starlink

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  • Kook Speculation 00:06:07

    Kook explains that a large phased array matters for two reasons: it lowers cost per watt of capacity (energy converts to RF signal capacity), and a large array enables powerful, tightly controlled beams needed for spectral efficiency, link budget, and interference control to deliver usable mobile broadband.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:07

    Citing Anpanman's analysis, Kook states Starlink's Version 1 direct-to-cell satellites total 650 satellites equating to about 4,000 square meters of array, while AST's planned 243 Block 2 satellites will total roughly 54,000 (almost 55,000) square meters of array — about 13 times the array area using roughly one-third the satellite count.

Year-to-Date Scorecard (Wave3Trades Recap)

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:06:07

    Kook notes AST SpaceMobile stock is actually red year-to-date as of last week, despite the operational progress described below, citing a thread by @Wave3Trades.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:06:07

    Year-to-date the company has generated $3.5 billion of liquidity, described as sufficient to build out 100 satellites; received FCC regulatory approval; and nearly doubled production capacity to a stated ability to build 10 satellites per month (not currently needed due to other constraints).

  • Kook Rumor 00:06:07

    On May 14th there was reportedly a joint venture formed among Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile, which Kook characterizes as possibly 'the Empire striking back against SpaceX' by unifying around AST — though he cautions the JV agreement itself hasn't been seen yet, so it remains unconfirmed.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:06:07

    Kook states BlueBirds 8 through 10 successfully launched (giving the date as 'June 7th,' which appears to be a garbled/uncertain reference — possibly meant as June 17th) and were quickly caught in command and control; the market is now awaiting the unfurling and operational commissioning of those satellites.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:06:07

    The negative developments of the year cited are Blue Origin-related: Blue Origin failed to deliver BlueBird 7 to the right orbit, and Blue Origin subsequently had a launchpad explosion; the other negative was general technical/noise disruption from the SpaceX IPO.

SpaceX IPO Impact and Valuation Comparisons

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  • Kook Speculation 00:23:52

    Kook argues the SpaceX IPO itself doesn't change the underlying competitive dynamic (SpaceX already had capital access), but it will force many more investors to analyze the direct-to-device industry and, in doing so, compare AST SpaceMobile directly against SpaceX/Starlink.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:52

    If AST wins the J-LEO contract, Kook expects the market to ask why Starlink didn't win it, raising data-sovereignty questions; if T-Mobile signs with AST, he expects scrutiny of why Starlink's 'foundational customer' didn't renew/switch, and expects the market to note an implied valuation disparity between the two companies on the order of roughly 1-to-50.

  • Kook Untagged 00:23:52

    Kook references a MarketWatch profile of a SpaceX retail investor ('Tanner') who also brought the conversation back to AST SpaceMobile, joking about whether Tanner might secretly be an AST bull; more broadly Kook expects far more eyes on AST as a result of SpaceX going public.

Hedging Dynamics and Short Squeeze Setup

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  • Kook Speculation 00:23:52

    Kook, citing Anpanman, notes SpaceX insiders can't sell shares and are restricted from hedging via puts, so he believes many are likely shorting liquid, perceived-correlated space-sector stocks instead, naming AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, and SATS as likely targets, with Goldman Sachs reportedly running a basket for this purpose.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:52

    Kook explains the 'basis risk' concept: a basket short strips out idiosyncratic (company-specific) risk to isolate systemic/sector risk, but AST-specific news (e.g., a J-LEO win, or especially a T-Mobile signing) would reintroduce idiosyncratic risk, creating a 'pair trade' where the short position on the AST leg loses money for a completely different reason than intended — potentially very costly for these hedgers.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:23:52

    Kook says he closely watches the stock-loan market (describing himself as personally lending out shares) and currently sees AST SpaceMobile shares fully lent out but cheap to borrow, with the rebate not 'going special' — unlike a stock he cites as an example of a genuine short squeeze setup, HQ Horizon, where borrow cost is around 250%. He attributes AST's cheap, stable borrow cost to high institutional ownership holding shares in large blocks.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:52

    Kook expects a hedging unwind to become a source of AST buying pressure starting in August, when SpaceX's own lockup restrictions begin lifting and hedgers who shorted AST as a SpaceX proxy can sell actual SpaceX shares and unwind the hedge.

Japan Strategy: Rakuten JV, 700 MHz Spectrum, and J-LEO

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:13:26

    This week AST announced a JV with Rakuten (an AST Series B investor, run by an entrepreneur Kook calls the 'Richard Branson of Japan'); Kook describes it as seemingly a public-private partnership in addition to the existing Rakuten MNO contract, and expects it to allow other Japanese MNOs to join, similar to how AT&T allowed Verizon into its arrangement and Vodafone created Satellite Connect Europe to aggregate other European MNOs.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:26

    Kook frames MNO participation in these JV structures as economically rational: it lets MNOs monetize their spectrum/ground assets for a cut ('vig') of revenue and keeps SpaceX at bay as a competitor.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:13:26

    Japan is reported to be providing a roughly billion-dollar subsidy, with Rakuten's Mickey (Mikitani) saying Japanese capital should be used to inject capital into the venture.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:26

    Kook highlights three seemingly coincidentally-timed events: the new Rakuten JV, Japan's regulatory approval of the 700 MHz band for AST's use (a band he says only AST's large arrays can practically use, since Starlink's smaller satellites can't handle such wide beams), and the imminent expected award of the J-LEO government contract — he frames connecting these as 'reasonable speculation' on his part, explicitly noting he can't be sure and it wasn't something he'd been tracking closely until about a week earlier.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:26

    Kook compares this potential setup to the Golden Dome news from the prior year, which he says drove the stock straight from around current levels to $100 because it also wasn't priced into the stock at the time; he believes a J-LEO win (potentially a billion-dollar deal) likewise doesn't look priced in with the stock in the mid-$70s, though he's careful not to bet on stock direction from any single news event.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:26

    Kook spitballs a possible deal structure (explicitly his own guess, not confirmed): assuming satellites currently cost around $50 million each (higher than the eventual cost-curve target), the Japanese government could give the JV a $1 billion subsidy, which the JV uses to place a $1 billion purchase order for about 20 AST satellites; roughly 25 satellites would provide good coverage for a Japan-only shell given limited longitude needs.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:26

    In Kook's proposed structure, satellites would be owned by a Japanese sovereign entity while over Japan, then leased back to AST SpaceMobile for use elsewhere when not needed for Japanese coverage — effectively a sale-leaseback that nets out to AST benefiting from a $1 billion subsidy while the JV may collect some lease payments as return on capital.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:26

    Kook expects the arrangement will also build in FirstNet-like capabilities and expects other major Japanese MNOs (he names KDDI and Docomo) may eventually join, potentially ditching Starlink.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:26

    Kook hopes the J-LEO subsidy announcement lands on June 30th (before quarter-end, ahead of the July 4th weekend), joking about wanting Japan to run 'on time' the way its subway system does.

  • Kook Speculation 00:30:29

    Separately, Kook notes Japan's Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) is looking to increase launch cadence on its H3 launch vehicle right around the same time as the other Japan developments, which he interprets as evidence Rakuten will buy the satellites while MHI becomes the vertically-integrated, sovereign Japanese launcher.

Launch Cadence Acceleration and the 'Model 3 Moment'

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  • Kook Speculation 00:30:29

    Kook draws an extended analogy to Tesla around the time of the Model 3 launch roughly a decade ago: rather than de-rating Tesla to car-company multiples, the Model 3's arrival de-risked the market's view of Tesla's ability to scale, and the stock subsequently re-rated in stages tied to proof points like the Shanghai and Germany plant openings.

  • Kook Speculation 00:30:29

    Kook argues AST is a good analog to Tesla's pattern of long consolidation followed by rapid re-rating, and frames the key 'multiple choice question' for AST right now as simply: can they unlock operational launch cadence? He points to the arrival of Antonov aircraft shipments, growing satellite build counts, and satellites shipping as evidence this is happening.

  • Kook Untagged 00:30:29

    As a secondary analogy, Kook cites Kevin Mack's large position in Sphere Entertainment, which tripled or quadrupled once the market recognized Sphere could produce its own content ('Wizard of Oz' special) to expand its total addressable market and margin structure — framed as an example of simplifying a stock thesis to one key yes/no question.

  • Kook Speculation 00:30:29

    A meme Kook cites shows AST's time between satellite launches shrinking from about 2 years, to 15 months, to 4 months, to now about 2 months, with Kook expecting the cadence to soon reach roughly one launch per month.

  • Kook Speculation 00:30:29

    Kook says people who monitor truck traffic near Midland ('camp out in their cars') report trucks and new shipping containers headed to Midland, which he takes as evidence that the next satellite batch ('batch 2') shipment, expected around August with a company update likely in the first half of August, is approaching; he also notes the company appears to be working on BlueBird 37, consistent with a prior update.

  • Kook Speculation 00:30:29

    Kook says the Antonov shipments include composite rings and other equipment, describing this as evidence of an active, if still just-in-time, supply chain that the company is admittedly still working to catch up on.

  • Kook Speculation 00:30:29

    Kook notes TLE (two-line element) tracking data on the recently launched satellites (referred to as 'Dodge 1,' a term that is unclear/possibly garbled in the transcript) looks good, and speculates the satellites could unfurl within weeks, potentially by the end of July, given it's already been about two weeks since launch.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:30:29

    On the commercial side, Kook notes Vodafone Spain (a separate entity from the parent Vodafone group) has joined, discussing both IoT applications and standard hard-to-reach-area coverage, which he takes as evidence the JV/aggregation model is working commercially and setting the stage for Japan.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:30:29

    Kook discusses SpaceX's competitive moves: SpaceX has confirmed plans for a mobile service, and TD Cowen has suggested SpaceX could try to buy T-Mobile to turn Starlink into a global connectivity platform; Kook is skeptical of the T-Mobile acquisition idea, noting (without having fully studied the governance) that Deutsche Telekom owns 51% of T-Mobile and would presumably have final say.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:30:29

    Kook cites a Bloomberg report that SpaceX has told investors it plans to launch a new Starlink Mobile service targeting US consumers directly, which he argues no MNO would read as a reason to want to partner with Starlink — if anything, the opposite.

Commercial and Government/Defense Use Cases

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  • Kook Speculation 00:30:29

    Kook references a PDF listing civilian-government and warfighter use cases for the underlying 5G/D2D technology — including supporting soldiers in the field, jamming, situational awareness, and IoT — as evidence of a broad set of future revenue opportunities beyond simply 'connecting the unconnected.'

AI Data Birds and Grid Parity in Space

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  • Kook Speculation 00:47:10

    Kook says he believes AST's eventual product roadmap release covering 'AI data birds' (satellites repurposed for AI compute rather than connectivity) will be a major catalyst; he cites a Qualcomm article about AI agents replacing apps and Qualcomm working on roughly 40 new AI-powered devices (including jewelry, camera-equipped earbuds, wearable pins, and watches) that will need connectivity, which he argues will drive future connectivity demand well beyond current use cases.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:10

    Kook draws an analogy to solar and wind reaching 'grid parity' roughly 20 years ago (moving from subsidy-dependent to genuinely cost-competitive with existing power generation, at which point demand becomes effectively unlimited) and says he's trying to find the equivalent 'grid parity' threshold for AI data centers in orbit.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:10

    As a rough, explicitly speculative calculation, Kook guesses an 'AI data bird' satellite might cost around $20 million, reasoning that the solar array and satellite frame stay the same while RF processing chips are swapped for AI ASICs and radiators — potentially even a net reduction in cost rather than an addition.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:10

    Kook assumes (while flagging he isn't sure this is correct) that such satellites would be placed in sun-synchronous orbit to allow a 24-hour duty cycle, and says he hasn't yet solved for the implied price per kilowatt-hour versus the fully loaded cost of a terrestrial data center (which must also account for cooling, land, infrastructure, and maintenance) — describing this as still an open, unsolved question.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:10

    Kook describes a conversation with 'Katzie' that led to the idea of a 'Micron sandwich' satellite design for AI compute: because no beamforming is needed on the Earth-facing side, AI chips can instead be spaced out (rather than clustered) specifically to radiate heat, alongside a large solar array for power — which Kook argues makes the existing satellite chassis design well suited to this repurposing.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:10

    Kook speculates that if AI data birds materialize as a business, it could be the catalyst that takes the stock from (his own hypothetical, not current) roughly $1,000 to $2,000, explicitly caveating that the current stock price is nowhere near $1,000 and that he doesn't believe in fixed price targets since markets can move companies further than even founders anticipate.

Blue Origin Update and 6-Month Outlook

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:47:10

    Kook notes Blue Origin has shown renewed progress toward launching again (putting up towers, cleaning the launch site), crediting Blue Origin's David Limp for the update.

  • Kook Speculation 00:49:00

    As a thought experiment, Kook argues that in 6 months (around New Year's), AST will likely have launched 12-15 more satellites, bringing the total fleet to roughly 21 satellites; while still short of the 45-satellite figure, he argues the market will have already 'eaten' any delay and the 45-satellite threshold will have shifted from a year-end litmus test to a more achievable Q1/mid-Q2 target.

  • Kook Speculation 00:49:00

    Kook speculates that by that point AST could also have new launch agreements with ULA and possibly a large multi-launch agreement with MHI (good for roughly 15-25 satellites), plus additional Falcon 9 launch purchases from SpaceX, meaning more total launch capacity than currently expected even if Blue Origin also comes back online.

Abel Avellan's Compensation Structure and Governance

5
  • Kook Untagged 00:50:57

    Kook references his own earlier midweek 'emergency' Spaces session (held Monday or Tuesday that week) discussing Abel Avellan's compensation, noting he had to guess at the structure at the time by pricing out puts and calls.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:50:57

    The actual structure is now known: Abel Avellan's compensation involves a collar with a $60 floor and a $112 cap, meaning he only sells his own founder-owned stock at $112, and he retains the option to roll the structure at a future point unless the stock reaches a level where rolling becomes impractical due to too much intrinsic value.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:50:57

    Kook emphasizes Abel is monetizing his own founder stock via a collar and loan rather than taking large dilutive stock-based compensation awards or a material cash salary, and compares this favorably to Jeff Bezos's historical approach of never taking more than about $80,000 per year in cash salary.

  • Kook Speculation 00:50:57

    Kook speculates that Abel modeling his compensation on Bezos may be notable given Amazon/Blue Origin is also one of AST's most important strategic partners, and floats (explicitly as speculation, not an announced plan) that a future combination of Amazon's Kuiper, Blue Origin, and AST SpaceMobile could be an 'elegant' potential strategic outcome or exit path, given Amazon's distribution power.

  • Kook Untagged 00:50:57

    Kook states that incentive alignment with an owner-operator like Abel is a prerequisite for him holding a large position, since misalignment would be a reason not to commit a large share of his net worth.

Closing Outlook and Seasonality

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  • Kook Speculation 00:56:19

    Kook notes the company was already tweeting on Sunday about scaling operations, which he suggests could mean a satellite shipment sooner rather than later, and reiterates that expectations for the Japan timeline should be kept appropriately low so as to be positively surprised.

  • Kook Speculation 00:56:19

    Kook closes by noting the July 4th weekend marks America's 250th anniversary, and cites a roughly 80% historical probability of the stock market being up over that weekend; he also notes AST SpaceMobile has historically performed well in the summer alongside launch events, and suggests the SpaceX-hedging dynamic discussed earlier could further fuel an exciting summer for the stock.

Watch Items7

  • J-LEO Japanese government satellite contract award/announcement

    Kook hopes for an announcement around June 30th (quarter-end), ahead of the July 4th weekend; explicitly speculative on exact timing Kook 00:13:26
  • Batch 2 satellite shipment from Midland

    Expected around August, with a company update likely in the first half of August Kook 00:30:29
  • Unfurling/commissioning of the recently launched Block 2 BlueBird satellites (referenced via TLE tracking)

    Possibly within weeks, potentially by end of July Kook 00:30:29
  • SpaceX lockup restriction expiration and potential hedge unwind

    Starting in August Kook 00:23:52
  • Path to a 45-satellite fleet (with ~21 satellites expected in the interim)

    Reframed from a year-end target to a Q1/mid-Q2 (next year) target over roughly the next 6 months Kook 00:49:00
  • Potential new launch agreements with ULA and/or a large multi-launch deal with MHI (Japan)

    Speculative, within the next ~6 months Kook 00:49:00
  • Blue Origin's next launch attempt/return to flight

    No specific date given; described as showing renewed progress (towers up, site cleaned) Kook 00:47:10

Open Questions7

  • Will the AST/Rakuten JV structure actually resemble Kook's speculative sale-leaseback model (Japanese-government-subsidized satellite purchase, leased back to AST when not covering Japan), or will the real structure differ?

    Kook 00:13:26
  • Will the J-LEO contract be awarded to the Rakuten/AST JV, and on what terms/timing?

    Kook 00:13:26
  • Will other major Japanese MNOs (e.g. KDDI, Docomo) eventually join the Rakuten/AST JV and move away from Starlink?

    Kook 00:13:26
  • Will T-Mobile formally sign on with AST SpaceMobile, and if so, how badly would that squeeze SpaceX-hedged short positions?

    Kook 00:23:52
  • Is it plausible that SpaceX could attempt to acquire T-Mobile, given Deutsche Telekom's 51% ownership stake and presumed final say?

    Kook 00:30:29
  • What is the correct fully-loaded price-per-kilowatt-hour comparison between an orbital 'AI data bird' and a terrestrial data center, once cooling, land, and infrastructure costs are accounted for?

    Kook 00:47:10
  • Will AST actually pursue an 'AI data bird' product line, and if so, what would the real unit economics and satellite cost look like?

    Kook 00:47:10
2026-06-27 17:24

Starlink's Charter Deal a Desperate Power Play

Anpanman

In a solo, impromptu episode, Anpanman reacts to an overnight Bloomberg report of talks between Starlink and distressed cable giant Charter Communications. He explains Charter's ~$100B debt vs ~$18B equity position and the competitive squeeze from 5G home internet, fiber, and Starlink's own fixed wireless service.

He argues the leak almost certainly originated from Starlink as a pressure tactic aimed at T-Mobile and the broader carrier market. But he contends it's a strategic blunder that will harden carrier resistance rather than win cooperation.

Anpanman closes with his standing bullish view that AST SpaceMobile's strategic value keeps compounding as Starlink alienates mobile carriers, and that the market has not yet priced this in.

Key Takeaways

  • Bloomberg reported overnight that Starlink and Charter Communications have reportedly been in talks; Anpanman treats this as a leak rather than a confirmed deal and analyzes who likely leaked it and why.
  • Charter Communications is financially distressed, carrying roughly $100 billion in debt against only about $18 billion in equity value, a position Anpanman attributes to years of financial engineering and stock buybacks.
  • Charter and cable broadly have been squeezed by wireless carriers' 5G home internet and aggressive fiber buildouts (especially from AT&T) as well as by Starlink's fixed wireless service pulling rural and suburban subscribers.
  • Charter operates its mobile service as an MVNO through Verizon: Charter contributed spectrum it had accumulated to Verizon in exchange for network access, running some traffic on its own network fabric while using Verizon's towers and spectrum; Anpanman estimates Charter has roughly 10 million mobile subscribers this way.
  • Anpanman explains that companies leak deal talks to the press for several possible strategic reasons: floating a trial balloon to gauge reaction, applying pressure to force a decision, deliberately blowing up an unwanted deal, or drawing outside interest during an exclusivity period without formally breaching confidentiality.
  • Anpanman believes Starlink is the most likely source of the Charter leak, intended to demonstrate to T-Mobile and the broader carrier market that Starlink has alternative options if carrier relationships sour.
  • Anpanman argues the leak is a strategic blunder: rather than intimidating carriers into cooperating with Starlink, it is likely to galvanize AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile to refuse Starlink MVNO access and to reevaluate existing MVNO agreements with cable companies to close off any workaround.
  • Anpanman explains that Starlink simply acquiring an existing MVNO would not be a clean way around carrier resistance, because MVNO contracts likely contain change-of-control clauses letting the underlying mobile network operator terminate the agreement if a new, unwelcome party takes over; buying an MNO outright would also likely be blocked by regulators and would hurt Starlink's own valuation.
  • Anpanman calls a May 14th tweet by Tim Ferriss — which framed the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture as a defensive move to jointly access Starlink's next-generation service — an 'absolutely idiotic take,' arguing subsequent events (the T-Mobile/Starlink exclusivity nearing its end, Starlink's push toward a direct-to-consumer mobile offering, and now the Charter talks) instead show carriers uniting against Starlink.
  • Anpanman's closing view is that AST SpaceMobile's strategic value continues to rise daily as Starlink's relationship with mobile carriers deteriorates, and that when the broader market recognizes this, ASTS stock will 're-rate' significantly higher because its service will become critical strategic infrastructure for every MNO and for tech companies outside the Tesla/SpaceX ecosystem.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Bloomberg Report on Starlink-Charter Talks

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:01:22

    Bloomberg reported overnight that there were reportedly talks between Starlink and Charter Communications; Anpanman describes Charter as a large, well-known US cable/home internet company that most Americans get service through (he personally uses Spectrum, Charter's brand).

Charter's Financial Distress

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    Charter got into its current position by focusing on financial engineering over time — raising a lot of debt and buying back stock on the assumption growth would continue indefinitely; the company now has about $100 billion of debt against an equity value of only about $18 billion, making it, in his words, 'pretty much a distressed company right now.'

Competitive Pressures Facing Cable

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:22

    Wireless carriers have pressured cable via two products: 5G Home internet (using the terrestrial wireless network to serve homes; he says Verizon's 5G Home speed is around, he thinks, 150 megabits down / 50 up, flagging the figure as not fully certain) and, more competitively, fiber buildouts from Verizon, AT&T, and especially T-Mobile/AT&T, which offer symmetrical upload/download speeds (e.g., 1 Gbps down/1 Gbps up) versus cable's traditionally asymmetric speeds (Anpanman's own Spectrum service: 500 Mbps down, 15 Mbps up).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:22

    Separately, Starlink's fixed wireless service has been pulling cable's traditionally dominant rural and suburban customer base, compounding the pressure cable companies face from wireless carriers.

Charter's MVNO Deal With Verizon

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:22

    Around 2014-2015, cable companies (including Charter) considered building their own wireless networks after having bought spectrum, but decided deploying towers themselves would be too expensive.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    Instead, Charter entered a partnership with Verizon: Charter gave Verizon the spectrum it had accumulated, and in exchange Verizon lets Charter operate as an MVNO, using Verizon's towers and spectrum while running a decent amount of network traffic on Charter's own network fabric. Anpanman estimates Charter has 'maybe around 10 million subscribers or so' through this arrangement.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:22

    Anpanman notes he personally could get a $20-30 discount by bundling Spectrum Mobile with his home internet, but avoids it because cable companies are 'notorious for having awful customer service.'

Why Leaks Happen: Trial Balloons and Leverage

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:22

    When deal talks leak to the press, Anpanman says it's important to ask why: possible motives include floating a 'trial balloon' to gauge public/investor/regulatory reaction to a contemplated deal, trying to force a party into or out of a deal via pressure, deliberately leaking to blow up an unwanted deal, or a sell-side banker leaking under exclusivity to draw more buyer interest without formally breaching an NDA — a high-risk move.

Who Leaked the Charter-Starlink Talks and Why

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    One possibility Anpanman raises: Charter itself leaked it to show equity and bondholders it has options to salvage the business by partnering with Starlink — though he notes this is complicated because Starlink is itself one of the causes of Charter's subscriber losses, and it's unclear what agreements would let Starlink use Charter's infrastructure while it's still contractually tied to Verizon/T-Mobile as its MVNO backbone.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:14

    Anpanman's main view is that Starlink is most likely the source of the leak, intending to show 'they've got options' and to pressure T-Mobile not to walk away from its existing agreement, while also signaling to the broader market and other carriers that Starlink has alternatives if carrier relationships don't work out.

Why the Leak Could Backfire on Starlink

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:14

    Anpanman calls the leak 'quite desperate' and 'another strategic blunder' for Starlink. He contrasts two interpretations: one view is that leaking a Charter partnership threatens carriers into acquiescing; his own view is the opposite — it will galvanize carriers, making them refuse to enable Starlink as an MVNO (viewing it as an existential threat) and prompting them to reevaluate their existing MVNO agreements with cable companies to close off any 'end around.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:14

    On the idea that Starlink could simply buy an existing MVNO to bypass carrier resistance, Anpanman argues it's 'not as simple as' it sounds: MVNO contracts likely contain change-of-control clauses letting the underlying mobile network operator evaluate and potentially terminate the agreement if a new, unwelcome party (e.g., Starlink) steps in. He also reiterates a prior view that Starlink acquiring a mobile network operator outright would cause its own valuation to derate, would likely be blocked by regulators, and would further galvanize all MNOs against it.

Connecting the Dots: Carrier JV, Ferriss Take, and the Bigger Picture

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:11:14

    Anpanman recalls that around May 14th, Tim Ferriss tweeted that the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture had been formed so the carriers could present a 'united front' to access Starlink's next-generation service — Anpanman calls this take 'absolutely idiotic,' accusing Ferriss and other space-industry analysts of being unable to see past their bias against AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:14

    Anpanman argues the pieces instead fit a different narrative: the T-Mobile/Starlink exclusivity is ending around June/July (he says 'I think it's July'), the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile JV formed just before that, Starlink has become vocal about going direct-to-consumer with a mobile offering, and now Starlink is reportedly talking to cable companies — all of which he reads as carriers closing ranks against a Starlink mobile threat rather than cooperating with it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:14

    Anpanman predicts there will likely be another article in the coming days specifically reporting Starlink talking to Spectrum (Charter's brand).

Strategic Value of ASTS

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:14

    Anpanman's closing take: regardless of these short-term maneuvers, AST SpaceMobile's strategic value 'continues to go up by the day' as Starlink Mobile becomes 'more toxic' to potential MNO partners; when the broader market/Street catches up to this, he expects the stock to 'massively re-rate higher' as AST's service becomes a critical strategic asset for every MNO and for tech companies outside the Tesla/SpaceX vertical stack.

Watch Items2

  • T-Mobile's exclusivity period with Starlink is expected to end

    June/July (Anpanman says 'I think it's July') Anpanman 00:11:14
  • Anpanman predicts a follow-up press article specifically reporting Starlink in talks with Spectrum (Charter's consumer brand)

    "In the coming days" Anpanman 00:11:14

Open Questions2

  • What agreements or legal mechanism, if any, would allow Starlink to partner with Charter for cable/network infrastructure while Charter remains contractually reliant on Verizon and T-Mobile as its MVNO backbone?

    Anpanman 00:01:22
  • Whether change-of-control clauses in existing MVNO contracts would actually let carriers terminate agreements if Starlink attempted to acquire an MVNO to bypass direct carrier negotiations.

    Anpanman 00:11:14
2026-06-26 54:20

Starlink Just Showed Their Hand - And It's a Gift for AST SpaceMobile

Anpanman

In a solo commentary episode, Anpanman reacts to overnight FT reporting that Starlink disclosed in a debt prospectus its intent to launch a direct-to-consumer 'Starlink Mobile' service that competes head-on with terrestrial carriers rather than partnering with them.

He argues this is bad for every incumbent MNO and tech company but is actually a massive positive catalyst for AST SpaceMobile. In his view it pushes AT&T, Verizon, and (he claims) now T-Mobile to lean harder on AST as the only sovereignty-friendly, partnership-based, low-band-capable counter to Starlink.

He spends the back half of the episode debunking Wall Street speculation that SpaceX could acquire T-Mobile, arguing it's regulatorily dead on arrival and would destroy SpaceX's valuation.

He also explains why Starlink's newly declared ambitions will backfire with regulators internationally, calling it a 'Napoleon-level' strategic blunder for Starlink's global rollout.

Key Takeaways

  • Starlink disclosed in a debt prospectus (reported overnight by the Financial Times) that it intends to launch a direct-to-consumer mobile wireless product, 'Starlink Mobile,' competing directly with terrestrial carriers rather than only partnering with them via T-Mobile.
  • Anpanman argues this is bad for AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, Google, Amazon, and Apple, but is a major positive for AST SpaceMobile because AST becomes the strategic counter-asset for any player trying to defend against Starlink's mobile ambitions.
  • Anpanman states that T-Mobile is joining AT&T and Verizon in AST SpaceMobile's joint venture structure, framed as T-Mobile realizing its Starlink Direct-to-Cell partnership (announced August 2022) was a strategic mistake; he presents this as his own read of the situation rather than citing an official company announcement.
  • Any near-term Starlink direct-to-consumer mobile product would likely require a 'dual-bill' setup: subscribers would use Starlink's eSIM as a primary connection but need a backup terrestrial carrier for indoor, foliage, or line-of-sight-blocked coverage, since Starlink currently relies on mid-band spectrum.
  • Starlink's mid-band spectrum limits its penetration through buildings and foliage, whereas AST SpaceMobile's low-band spectrum approach can penetrate those obstacles; Anpanman says Starlink would need to acquire scarce low-band spectrum (e.g., from Grain Management's roughly 800 MHz holdings currently in FCC review) to truly compete.
  • Anpanman contrasts revenue splits: T-Mobile reportedly keeps only 20 cents of every dollar in its Starlink Direct-to-Cell deal (Starlink keeps 80 cents) because Starlink owns the infrastructure, versus AST's roughly 50/50 splits with AT&T and Verizon under true partnership structures.
  • Anpanman dismisses Wall Street (TD Cowen) speculation that SpaceX could acquire T-Mobile, arguing it would be blocked by U.S. regulators (since it would reduce the wireless market from a hoped-for 4 competitors back to 3) and would severely 'de-rate' SpaceX's valuation given T-Mobile trades around 7.5x EBITDA versus SpaceX's roughly 160x 2026 EBITDA valuation.
  • Anpanman argues Starlink openly declaring its intent to compete with terrestrial mobile carriers will backfire internationally, as foreign regulators protecting 'national champion' carriers and sovereignty concerns are likely to deny Starlink the country-by-country spectrum approvals (e.g., S-band) it needs to expand globally.
  • AST SpaceMobile's partnership/joint-venture model (e.g., Satellite Connect Europe with Vodafone, the Rakuten-AST J-LEO venture in Japan) gives local partners ownership, control, and even a 'kill switch' over satellites serving their territory, which Anpanman contrasts favorably against Starlink's 'take it or leave it' approach that does not offer local ownership or sovereignty.
  • Anpanman notes AST SpaceMobile now has partnerships or relationships with roughly 60 mobile network operators globally, and expects that number to grow as Starlink's declared ambitions push more carriers to seek AST as a hedge.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

Starlink's Debt Prospectus Disclosure and Why It's Bullish for AST

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:22

    Breaking news overnight from the Financial Times: Starlink has told investors (in a debt prospectus) that it is seeking to attack the terrestrial wireless market, planning to launch 'Starlink Mobile' sold directly to consumers rather than solely through MNO partnerships, effectively going around its partner T-Mobile and eventually targeting AT&T and Verizon customers too.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    Anpanman's key takeaway: AST SpaceMobile's strategic value 'has gone up exponentially' as a result of this disclosure, because it confirms Starlink's long-term intent to compete with, not complement, MNOs.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    He expects this FT article to circulate to every board member at every global MNO, forcing them to reassess whether working with Starlink was a strategic error ('enabling' a future competitor).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    General market/investor reaction will likely be that this news is broadly negative for AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, Google, Amazon, and Apple — which he says is mostly true — but he argues AST SpaceMobile is the exception because it is the only competitor offering true broadband to an unmodified phone using low-band spectrum, versus Starlink's current narrowband texting service (with broadband coming later, but capacity-limited by mid-band spectrum).

T-Mobile, the AST Joint Venture, and Broader Strategic Importance

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    Anpanman states T-Mobile is joining AT&T and Verizon in AST SpaceMobile's joint venture, describing it as T-Mobile recognizing that enabling the 'Trojan horse' (Starlink) inside its own network made no sense; he ties this to T-Mobile's Starlink Direct-to-Cell exclusivity (announced August 2022) ending 'this or next month.' This is presented as Anpanman's own analysis/claim rather than a cited company announcement.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    He notes former T-Mobile CEO Mike Sievert is no longer at the company, speculating (without certainty) that he was pushed out, though he says it 'doesn't seem like' Sievert left entirely on his own.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    As Starlink pursues the terrestrial mobile business, AST becomes increasingly important not just to MNOs but to any company that competes with the integrated SpaceX/Tesla stack — robotics, autonomous drones, IoT, and AI edge-case connectivity providers — since working with SpaceX risks being 'hollowed out' by them.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    Existing strategic investor Google, plus Meta (which he says has visited AST's Midland facility and is testing apps like WhatsApp with AST in Spain), Microsoft, and Amazon (which bought Globalstar for spectrum) are all cited as tech players with growing strategic interest in AST, though he says it's unclear if Amazon can stand up a real competing service via Globalstar.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:01:22

    He cites Anduril's reported difficulties working with SpaceX/Starlink for military drone connectivity, noting that Anduril founder Palmer Luckey and several Anduril employees reportedly own AST SpaceMobile stock (a fact he says was confirmed by fellow host Kook after a camping trip conversation with Anduril employees), which he frames as a signal that people close to the technology see where things are headed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    Referencing a call with Ben Devron about Bridger Aerospace, Anpanman relays that firefighters lose connectivity during wildfires because dense forest canopy blocks Starlink's fixed-wireless service, whereas AST's low-band cellular approach can penetrate trees and foliage — illustrating a real-world use case for AST's spectrum advantage.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:05

    AST currently has relationships with roughly 60 global MNO partners (including Vodafone, Orange, Telefonica, Telenor, CK Hutchison, Saudi Telecom, MTN, Rakuten, Globe, an unnamed Korean carrier, and Vodafone Idea in India), and he expects that number to keep growing as Starlink's stated ambitions push more carriers to hedge by working with AST.

How a Starlink Direct-to-Consumer Mobile Product Would Work

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    He describes a likely near-term model: consumers would buy Starlink mobile service directly (speculating a price point of roughly $30-50/month), set the Starlink eSIM as their phone's primary network, and keep a cheaper backup carrier (an MVNO or AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile) as a fallback for when Starlink's line-of-sight service drops (indoors, in cars, in tunnels).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    This handoff would not be seamless — an active call would drop and the phone would need to re-search for the backup network — meaning users would effectively pay for two services ('dual bill') unless a carrier agreed to lease network space to Starlink as an MVNO host, which AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile have all said they are not interested in enabling.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    Because Starlink's mid-band spectrum has line-of-sight limitations, its service would work well outdoors with a clear sky view but become 'patchy' indoors or under tree cover; to truly build a terrestrial-competitive network Starlink would need to erect radio towers (or lease space from companies like American Tower) and, critically, acquire scarce low-band spectrum.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:22

    He flags Grain Management as a company going through FCC approval to sell roughly 800 MHz of spectrum, and floats the possibility that either AST/its partners or SpaceX could acquire it; if SpaceX buys it, he says that would be an 'unequivocal shot across the bow' against T-Mobile/AT&T/Verizon and a signal to buy more AST stock, since it would definitively end any chance of those carriers cooperating with Starlink.

Regulatory Precedent: The Dish/EchoStar 4th-Carrier History

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:15:05

    He recounts that when T-Mobile and Sprint sought DOJ/FTC approval to merge (reducing 4 national carriers to 3), regulators required divestiture of towers, a brand, and low-band spectrum to Dish Networks (owned by Charlie Ergen) to create a facilities-based 4th competitor; Ergen combined those assets with AWS-3 spectrum he'd held for years under the Boost Mobile brand.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:15:05

    Dish's 4th-carrier effort failed — poor customer perception of Boost Mobile/cable-company MVNOs, missed build-out milestones — leading FCC chair Brendan Carr to eventually tell Ergen to use his spectrum or lose it; Ergen then sold that AWS-3 spectrum to SpaceX.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He argues this history is exactly why the DOJ/FCC would block any SpaceX acquisition of T-Mobile: regulators only recently approved SpaceX's AWS-3 spectrum purchase on the premise that Starlink would become a competitive 4th player, and buying T-Mobile would collapse the market back to 3 large carriers, the opposite of that stated goal.

Debunking the SpaceX-Buys-T-Mobile Speculation

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He references a Wall Street note (he believes from TD Cowen) speculating that SpaceX could acquire T-Mobile, which he calls 'harebrained' and says is 'dead on arrival' from a U.S. regulatory standpoint for the reasons above.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He argues Deutsche Telekom (T-Mobile US's parent) previously considered selling down its T-Mobile stake but reversed course in recent years and has been buying back T-Mobile shares because the U.S. market is more attractive than Europe's tougher regulatory/economic environment for telecom — making a sale unlikely even before considering approval odds.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He argues European regulators would similarly block any attempt by SpaceX to acquire Deutsche Telekom itself, given sovereignty/national-champion protections and Elon Musk's polarizing political profile in Europe.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    Using Street projections, he estimates T-Mobile's 2026 revenue at roughly $95 billion with ~63% gross margin, ~$37 billion EBITDA, and ~$10-11 billion annual capex, trading around 7.5x EBITDA, versus SpaceX trading at roughly 160x projected 2026 EBITDA; folding a slow-growing wireless business into SpaceX would badly 'de-rate' SpaceX's valuation multiple.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He describes SpaceX as now roughly 60-70% a 'neo-cloud leasing' company via compute-leasing deals with Google, Anthropic, and a third party he refers to as 'Relative AI' (name possibly garbled), a shift from connectivity being about 69% of revenue previously; SpaceX has also acquired Cursor as it moves toward higher-value tools.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He concludes that buying an incumbent like T-Mobile would be a value-destructive path for SpaceX versus organically taking market share, which the market would reward with an even higher valuation multiple; he doesn't believe Elon Musk wants to destroy SpaceX's valuation this way.

Economics and Technical Comparison: AST vs. Starlink

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    AST's roughly 50/50 revenue split with AT&T and Verizon reflects true partnership economics, versus the roughly 80/20 split (Starlink keeps 80 cents, T-Mobile keeps 20 cents) in T-Mobile's Direct-to-Cell deal, which he attributes to Starlink owning all the infrastructure (satellites, gateways) with no integration into the carrier's core network.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:19:42

    He states Starlink's current service quality is poor and that reaching operational cadence for next-generation V2 satellites (targeting roughly 150 Mbps per cell) will require Starship, whereas AST is 'already getting to 200 megabits per second' and has a roadmap for further generations.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:19:42

    He notes Verizon specifically cited AST's more attractive technology roadmap as part of its 2024 decision to work with AST, alongside strategic concerns about Starlink.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:19:42

    He mentions learning 'this morning' that Brazilian regulators disclosed a technical nugget: a user can connect to up to 4 AST satellites at once, which he says demonstrates AST's MIMO capabilities.

The Global Regulatory Chessboard and Sovereignty

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:29

    He argues foreign regulators will become far more sensitive to sovereignty and 'national champion' protection now that Starlink has openly declared its intent to compete with (not just partner with) local carriers, making it much harder for Starlink to get approvals to become an MVNO or acquire local carriers abroad.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:29

    He contrasts this with past cross-border ownership that regulators did allow — e.g., SoftBank (Japan) owning Sprint, and Deutsche Telekom (Germany) owning T-Mobile US — because those were allied-nation owners, unlike a scenario where a foreign (or politically controversial) entity like SpaceX would seek to acquire a domestic carrier abroad.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:29

    Because Starlink must seek country-by-country approval to use the S-band spectrum rights it acquired from EchoStar, and it is now openly saying it intends to compete with each country's domestic wireless carriers and send profits back to the U.S., he expects many regulators to simply deny those S-band approvals, calling the spectrum acquisition's global-harmonization thesis effectively 'toxic' now.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:29

    He notes the FCC could threaten reciprocity (blocking foreign carriers from the U.S. market if foreign regulators block Starlink), but argues this leverage is weak since most foreign carriers have no interest in offering service in the U.S. anyway.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:29

    AST's partnership/JV model — such as Satellite Connect (Europe, with Vodafone) and the Rakuten-AST J-LEO joint venture in Japan — lets local partners own ground infrastructure, command-and-control, and even a 'kill switch' over satellites while over their territory, which he argues is the key structural reason regulators will favor AST's approach over Starlink's 'take it or leave it' model.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:29

    He cites the potential for dual-use military/defense value in these JV structures (e.g., a European or Japanese 'Golden Dome'-style capability) and references a Spain flooding event roughly one to two years earlier where terrestrial infrastructure was wiped out, arguing AST satellites could have restored mobile service and helped first responders locate victims during the outage.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:47:29

    He acknowledges smaller (3rd/4th place) carriers in some countries may still choose to enable Starlink as an MVNO to gain subscriber share even without full economics, but argues this dynamic actually increases the strategic urgency for the larger 2-3 carriers in that market to partner with AST as a counter.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:39

    He briefly notes a competing direct-to-device player, referred to as 'NBA Space' with 'Aurora' satellites, saying it's too early to assess since those satellites haven't launched or been tested, and that the company does not appear to be working with local partners the way AST does.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:39

    He closes with a Napoleon Bonaparte analogy — 'don't interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake' — framing Starlink's decision to openly reveal its terrestrial mobile ambitions as a strategic blunder that will make its global rollout much harder to execute than its domestic one.

Stock Price History and Volatility Framing

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He recalls AST's stock moving from roughly $5-6 to $39 after the market recognized the significance of the AT&T and Verizon partnerships, framing the recent stock 'malaise' as similar pre-recognition uncertainty that he expects to resolve once the market understands the implications of Starlink's disclosure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He notes AST's constellation compute capacity/data delivery capability is up over 100% in recent months as more satellites have launched, and frames current stock volatility as 'a feature, not a bug' rather than a sign the news is actually bad.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    He says he personally bought more AST stock following this news and remains highly bullish despite the broader space-sector and stock-price pullback.

Watch Items4

  • Resolution of T-Mobile's Starlink Direct-to-Cell exclusivity period (originally announced August 2022) and whether T-Mobile formally joins the AT&T/Verizon AST joint venture

    Anpanman states the exclusivity ends 'this or next month' (i.e., around June-July 2026) Anpanman 00:01:22
  • Outcome of Grain Management's FCC approval process to sell ~800 MHz of low-band spectrum, and whether SpaceX or AST/its partners acquire it

    Ongoing FCC approval process, no date given Anpanman 00:01:22
  • Whether Starship reaches operational cadence to deploy Starlink's V2 direct-to-cell satellites (targeting ~150 Mbps per cell)

    Not specified Anpanman 00:19:42
  • Whether foreign regulators grant or deny Starlink's country-by-country S-band spectrum approval requests following its terrestrial-mobile disclosure

    Ongoing, market-by-market Anpanman 00:47:29

Open Questions5

  • Will SpaceX actually acquire Grain Management's low-band (~800 MHz) spectrum, and if so, will that spectrum be sufficient to build a real competing terrestrial network?

    Anpanman 00:01:22
  • Will T-Mobile officially and publicly confirm joining the AST SpaceMobile joint venture alongside AT&T and Verizon?

    Anpanman 00:01:22
  • Will smaller (3rd/4th-place) international carriers choose to enable Starlink as an MVNO despite the sovereignty and economic downsides, and how will that affect AST's positioning with the larger carriers in those markets?

    Anpanman 00:47:29
  • Does Starlink's public declaration of mobile-carrier ambitions ultimately ease or harm its global regulatory path — will it ease near-term U.S. approvals while making international expansion (S-band approvals, MVNO deals) much harder?

    Anpanman 00:51:39
  • Will DOJ/FCC allow SpaceX to acquire additional low-band spectrum assets (even if a full carrier acquisition like T-Mobile would be blocked)?

    Anpanman 00:19:42
2026-06-25 54:42

AST SpaceMobile - The Billion Dollar Sovereign Satellite Blueprint

Anpanman

Anpanman delivers a solo deep-dive on AST SpaceMobile amid a sector-wide sell-off, explaining why he believes the stock's decline reflects factor rotation and high correlation across space names rather than company-specific news.

The core of the episode is a breakdown of a new 'sovereign satellite' business model, illustrated by the newly confirmed Vodafone España/Satellite Connect Europe deal and the emerging Rakuten/AST joint venture for Japan's J-LEO program.

Under it, regional partners fund and fully own/control dedicated satellites (with a 'kill switch') while AST leases capacity from those birds when they fly over other regions. He argues that structure is capital-efficient and structurally superior to Starlink's centralized network.

He closes with updates on the Midland production ramp and an Antonov cargo delivery, and pushes back on rumors of a SpaceX/T-Mobile acquisition.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman (solo host) argues the entire space sector, not just AST SpaceMobile (ASTS), has sold off together with correlations near 1, so positive company news is currently not being reflected in the stock price.
  • Vodafone España (Spain), now privately-equity owned after being sold out of Vodafone Group roughly a year ago, confirmed a commercial agreement to join Satellite Connect Europe, targeting commercial service in 2027.
  • Anpanman describes a 'sovereign satellite' joint-venture model, modeled on a prior Planet Labs/JSAT deal, in which a regional partner (e.g., Rakuten in Japan, or Vodafone-led MNOs in Europe) pays to procure and fully own dedicated AST-built satellites, retaining a 'kill switch' and full control over their home territory, while AST leases capacity from those same satellites when they pass over other regions.
  • Under this structure, Japan's J-LEO program is expected to involve roughly $1 billion of Japanese government investment into a Rakuten/AST joint venture to buy BlueBird satellites and stand up ground infrastructure, with the satellites owned by the JV rather than by AST.
  • Satellite Connect Europe (the Vodafone/AST joint venture) is backed by most major European MNOs — Orange, Telefónica, CK Hutchison, Telenor, and now Vodafone España — with Deutsche Telekom notably not yet a member.
  • A European Union decision on renewing roughly 30 MHz of 2 GHz spectrum (currently used by EchoStar and Viasat) is expected around May 2027, with about 15 MHz reportedly earmarked for European-owned entities like Satellite Connect Europe.
  • Anpanman contrasts AST's 'bent pipe' architecture (signal captured and sent straight back down to a gateway in the originating country) with Starlink's inter-satellite-linked network, arguing AST's design and joint-venture structure better support data sovereignty and avoid a single external operator holding a kill switch over a country's service.
  • Anpanman says he does not believe AST will hit a previously discussed target of 45 satellites in orbit by the end of the year, expecting that milestone more likely in Q1 or Q2 of next year, and attributes the lack of updated guidance to active negotiations for additional launch capacity.
  • Anpanman dismisses a circulating rumor (from a Wolf Research report) that SpaceX could acquire T-Mobile as unfounded speculation, and argues such a deal would likely cause SpaceX's valuation multiple to get 'derated' toward wireless-carrier levels.
  • The next batch of BlueBird satellites is being prepared for an August launch, and an Antonov cargo plane carrying composite 'donut ring' components from India was expected to land in Midland the day of recording.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

Market Dynamics and Sector-Wide Sell-Off

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:23

    Short interest in ASTS is around 81 million shares in real time, and as the stock has moved lower, convertible arbitrageurs covering their shares suggests there is still net additional shorting happening.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:23

    He attributes some of the shorting/hedging activity to pre-IPO SpaceX holders hedging their positions ahead of an expected liquidity event — the first SpaceX lockup expiration, which he says is coming in August.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:26

    The entire space sector — not just AST SpaceMobile — is down and correlations across space stocks are essentially at 1, so materially positive news for companies like Rocket Lab or Planet Labs isn't moving those stocks either; he believes the market is at or close to a bottom.

Vodafone España and Satellite Connect Europe

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:02:41

    Vodafone España (Vodafone Spain), which Vodafone Group sold to a private equity firm roughly a year ago during restructuring, confirmed a commercial agreement — reiterated by AST SpaceMobile — to join Satellite Connect Europe, with commercial service targeted for 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:02:41

    He views this as reinforcing Satellite Connect Europe's attractiveness to EU regulators ahead of the upcoming 2 GHz spectrum allocation decision.

Satellite Sovereignty Concept and the Planet/JSAT Precedent

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:04:56

    He describes having grappled with how a 'sovereign' satellite solution could work structurally, until the Rakuten/Mikitani JLEO joint-venture announcement (partly leaked by Rakuten's Mickey Mikitani) helped clarify it, along with a same-day conversation with Kook.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:04:56

    As a historical template, he cites a prior deal between Planet Labs and JSAT in Japan, where JSAT paid Planet roughly $230 million to build satellites for use over Japan; Planet then had rights to use those same satellites elsewhere, making that outside-Japan usage close to a 100% gross-margin business for Planet, while JSAT retained all economics within Japan.

J-LEO Project and the Rakuten/AST Joint Venture

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:41

    Rakuten is forming a joint venture with AST SpaceMobile to serve as the vehicle for Japan's J-LEO project; per press reports, the Japanese government is expected to invest $1 billion into the JV, which the JV would use to buy Bluebird satellites, ground station/command-and-control equipment, and stand up staff in Japan.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:41

    An internal Japanese government decision on J-LEO was expected at the end of June (2026), and he believes AST is very well positioned to win the program, partly because he does not think Starlink can meet the program's requirements.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:41

    Under the JV structure, satellites procured for J-LEO would be fully owned and controlled by the Rakuten/AST joint venture (not AST, the US, or any other entity), including a 'kill switch' to turn off service, addressing his earlier confusion about how Mikitani's comment on 'rolling out global service' would work.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:41

    He speculates Mikitani's board departure may have been partly to allow him to sell stock to help capitalize the JV, and/or to enable more arm's-length negotiations, and/or because it was a requirement of the J-LEO tender — he is not certain which.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:26

    When the JV's satellites fly over regions outside Japan (e.g., the US, Europe, Africa), AST (or other MNO partners) would pay the JV to lease that capacity — explaining Mikitani's 'global service' remark as monetizing fly-over capacity rather than Rakuten operating a roaming network directly.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:26

    As a rough, explicitly speculative estimate, he guesses the $1 billion Japanese investment could pay for 'somewhere around 30-some-odd satellites,' though he frames this as a guess ('I don't know').

Global Capacity Leasing Economics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:46:26

    In response to a listener question about how satellite-sharing economics might work (e.g., a JV leasing a satellite to Verizon), he sketches a hypothetical: if Verizon charges its customer $10, Verizon might keep $5 and give AST $5; AST would then pay some portion — maybe $1 — to the relevant regional JV for use of that satellite, with the split depending on which party funded more of the satellite's construction/launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:46:26

    He suggests the JV likely gets less economics in regions like the US in exchange for keeping more economics within its home market (e.g., Japan), and that a fully-paid-for satellite effectively becomes incremental, high-margin network capacity for AST.

S-Band Spectrum Allocation in Europe

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:15:11

    Satellite Connect Europe is a joint venture between Vodafone and AST SpaceMobile; other major European MNOs have joined including Orange, Telefónica, CK Hutchison, and Telenor, along with the newly announced Vodafone España.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:15:11

    AST has already applied for an operating license/constellation flagging in Germany for a European satellite fleet he refers to informally as 'Eurobirds.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:11

    He expects an EU decision in May of next year (2027) on renewing roughly 30 MHz by 30 MHz of 2 GHz spectrum currently used by EchoStar, Viasat and others, with about 15 MHz expected to go to European-owned entities and the remainder to other users.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:11

    He believes Europe's own IRIS sovereign satellite constellation project is unlikely to materialize on its stated timeline given the bureaucracy and number of companies involved ('like herding cats').

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:11

    Published EU criteria for the 2 GHz allocation reportedly require EU ownership of the constellation, European operations/control centers, traffic that originates and lands within Europe (not routed through other regions), and a constellation flagged in an EU country — which AST has pursued via Germany.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:11

    Deutsche Telekom has not yet joined Satellite Connect Europe, but he expects it eventually will, given the competitive threat MNOs see from Starlink.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:11

    As part of positioning as a 'fully European solution,' Satellite Connect Europe plans to launch its satellites on Ariane rockets where possible.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:11

    If granted, he expects Satellite Connect Europe could receive on the order of 10 MHz by 10 MHz of S-band spectrum.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:11

    Using a hypothetical Brazil example to illustrate how sovereign JV structures could get around FCC/EchoStar reciprocity disputes over global spectrum rights, he states that a 10 MHz by 10 MHz S-band allocation for local Brazilian MNOs 'is actually what has happened' — though he introduces this as a hypothetical, so the specific claim should be treated as uncertain/unclear.

AST SpaceMobile vs. Starlink Architecture

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:22:56

    AST's satellites operate on a 'bent pipe' basis, capturing mobile signal and sending it directly back down to a gateway in the same country, whereas Starlink's satellites can bounce data between each other, meaning a user's data could be routed through a different country before reaching its destination.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:56

    He argues this creates a sovereignty risk with Starlink around data interception/filtering and around the network being unilaterally turned off if a country's leadership were at odds with SpaceX's owner, whereas AST's regional JV structure gives local partners full control including a kill switch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:56

    He states Starlink has not formed joint-ownership structures with local MNOs anywhere and does not integrate into an MNO's core network, unlike AST's model.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:22:56

    Countries with growing rocket programs (Japan, India, etc.) would otherwise have to pay a competitor (SpaceX) for launch if using Starlink; AST's satellites fit in standard fairings, and the earlier Vodafone India agreement was partly tied to using ISRO for launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:56

    He says he is 'almost 100% certain' AST's J-LEO proposal will commit to launching a meaningful share (he floats 50-80%) of Japan's satellites on Mitsubishi Heavy, framing this as a win-win for regulators supporting both communications and launch sovereignty.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:56

    He believes most global MNOs now see SpaceX as a direct competitive threat since its IPO prospectus and presentations targeted terrestrial cellular service, and expects early Starlink-aligned carriers in Japan (KDDI, NTT Docomo, SoftBank) to begin leaving the 'Starlink train' if AST wins J-LEO.

Midland Operations and Antonov Cargo

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:31:26

    The next batch of BlueBird satellites is being prepared for shipment, with launch expected in August.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:26

    An Antonov large cargo plane from India — where the company's composite 'donut rings' are made — was expected to land in Midland the day of recording; he guesses 7 to 10 rings (possibly more) will be unloaded now that a prior stacking issue has reportedly been solved.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:26

    Going forward, the company does not plan to rely on Antonov flights for all ring shipments; as the composite ring design finalizes and production stabilizes, he expects more shipments to move by boat, noting some rings may already have arrived that way.

Rakuten's Japan Exclusivity and Opening the Market to Other Carriers

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:11

    Because Rakuten was an early seed investor in AST, AST ceded control/exclusivity of the Japanese market to Rakuten, meaning AST could not previously sign direct agreements with KDDI, SoftBank, or NTT Docomo.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:11

    He says the J-LEO program's requirement that service be available to every carrier is expected to open the Japanese market to AST, allowing it to earn economics from KDDI, NTT Docomo, and SoftBank users — though probably not from Rakuten itself — a dynamic he thinks the market doesn't fully appreciate.

T-Mobile/SpaceX Acquisition Rumor and Valuation Discussion

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:37:11

    A listener raised a rumor that SpaceX could acquire T-Mobile, based on a research report; Anpanman initially attributes it to TD Cowen, then corrects himself to say it was Wolf Research, and calls it unfounded, one analyst's own speculative assertion rather than anything real.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:11

    He notes Deutsche Telekom had previously been reducing its T-Mobile stake but reversed course over the last 3-4 years to increase ownership, viewing T-Mobile as strategically important given weaker profitability in the European market.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:11

    If SpaceX did acquire a large carrier like T-Mobile (which he estimates at roughly $95 billion of revenue and $37 billion of EBITDA), he argues SpaceX's valuation would likely get 'derated' toward wireless-carrier multiples (roughly 6-7x EBITDA, maybe a blended ~12x) from its current much higher multiple, since a majority of pro forma revenue and EBITDA would become traditional wireless-carrier economics.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:11

    He compares a hypothetical SpaceX/T-Mobile deal to AOL's acquisition of Time Warner during the dot-com bubble — financially accretive in some ways but ultimately associated with significant value destruction.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:11

    He argues that if Starlink acquired T-Mobile, it would put every Starlink-partnered MNO globally 'on notice' of SpaceX's competitive intent, potentially accelerating adoption of AST SpaceMobile among remaining incumbent carriers.

Managing Space-Sector Volatility, Stock History, and Personal Portfolio

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:46:26

    The stock is around $65 at the time of recording; he recalls it previously bottoming near $63-68, then rallying to $120 in January and to $130 in anticipation of the SpaceX IPO, before the BlueBird 7 (New Glenn) mishap triggered a drawdown.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:46:26

    He discloses his own portfolio is down '8 digits' from its peak, and that out of trading discipline he had trimmed roughly half of his upside trading position ahead of the Blue Origin New Glenn 4 static-fire mishap; he immediately sold his remaining small Robinhood ASTS position when the stock fell from about $130 to $120 on the news, but kept his core, low-cost-basis E*Trade position for long-term capital-gains tax reasons.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:46:26

    He discusses broader macro context — crude oil having round-tripped back to pre-Iran-conflict levels (potentially deflationary) even as the market's Fed outlook has shifted from rate cuts toward possible rate hikes of 25-50 basis points by year end — as part of why high-beta sectors like space have underperformed defensive/cyclical names recently.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:46:26

    In response to a listener question, he says AST will not hit a previously floated target of 45 satellites in orbit by year-end, expecting that milestone more likely in Q1 or Q2 of next year; he attributes the lack of updated public guidance to the company being in active discussions for additional launch capacity and not yet knowing if the eventual count lands around 20, 25, or 30.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:46:26

    Responding to a question about whether the J-LEO award is $1 billion split across multiple companies, he clarifies his understanding that the award goes to one company/joint venture — $1 billion upfront plus ongoing economics — not split among multiple firms.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:46:26

    Asked whether Starlink could preserve data sovereignty simply by using only Japanese gateways, he responds that Starlink owns all of its own gateway infrastructure in every market and has never entered into MNO joint-ownership structures, so architecturally and business-wise it doesn't achieve the same sovereignty as AST's model.

Watch Items6

  • Next batch of BlueBird satellites shipping ahead of launch

    August Anpanman 00:31:26
  • Japan J-LEO program decision (internal Japanese government decision)

    End of June (this month, per the episode) Anpanman 00:07:41
  • EU decision on renewing 2 GHz spectrum (relevant to Satellite Connect Europe's S-band allocation)

    May of next year (2027) Anpanman 00:15:11
  • First SpaceX pre-IPO share lockup expiration

    August Anpanman 00:01:23
  • Antonov cargo plane delivering composite 'donut rings' from India to Midland

    Day of recording Anpanman 00:31:26
  • Target of 45 satellites in orbit by year-end (now expected to slip)

    Previously year-end; Anpanman now expects Q1 or Q2 of next year Anpanman 00:46:26

Open Questions5

  • Will the Rakuten/AST joint venture actually be selected for Japan's J-LEO program?

    Anpanman 00:07:41
  • Will Deutsche Telekom eventually join Satellite Connect Europe alongside the other major European MNOs?

    Anpanman 00:15:11
  • Exactly how will revenue-sharing/leasing economics be split between AST and each regional joint venture (Japan, Europe, etc.) when satellites fly over other regions?

    Anpanman 00:46:26
  • Is there any real substance behind the rumor that SpaceX could acquire T-Mobile, or is it purely one analyst's speculation?

    Anpanman 00:37:11
  • How many satellites will actually be in orbit by year-end, given the company has not updated its previously discussed 45-satellite target?

    Anpanman 00:46:26
2026-06-24 50:30

Anpanman - Why SpaceX Insiders are Shorting $ASTS

Anpanman

Anpanman explains the roughly 49% peak-to-trough drawdown in ASTS (down to about $67.87). He argues it is being driven mainly by SpaceX-related insiders, VCs, and employees using AST SpaceMobile as a proxy short hedge against their locked-up private SpaceX shares ahead of the SpaceX lockup expiration in mid-August.

He says the drawdown was compounded by the late-May Blue Origin New Glenn pad explosion, which derated the whole space sector. He argues this dynamic is temporary and creates 'basis risk' given SpaceX's revenue mix is shifting fast toward terrestrial AI compute leasing rather than pure connectivity.

He closes with bullish updates on Japan's 700 MHz spectrum approval/J-LEO opportunity, Brazil spectrum grants, and the upcoming early-August Block 2 launch.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile stock hit a roughly 49% peak-to-trough drawdown, trading as low as $67.87, which Anpanman attributes largely to SpaceX-related insiders, VCs, and employees using ASTS (and other space names) as a proxy short hedge against their private, lockup-restricted SpaceX holdings.
  • SpaceX employees, executives, and VCs who signed underwriter lockup agreements are legally barred from buying puts on SpaceX itself or otherwise creating a direct short position in SpaceX stock, so those wanting to hedge or monetize ahead of the lockup expiration instead short a basket of public space comps like ASTS, Rocket Lab, Redwire, and Planet.
  • The first SpaceX lockup expiration is expected around August 20, 2026, unlocking 20% of shares outstanding, with an additional 10% unlocking if the stock price holds at a certain level; Anpanman expects the short-hedge trade to start unwinding in the second half of July and into early August as insiders prepare to sell actual SpaceX shares and cover their hedges.
  • By Anpanman's own calculation, net short interest in ASTS has reached all-time highs even as the stock has fallen about 49%: he estimates roughly 23-24 million incremental shares have been shorted since the stock was at $130 (net of convertible-bond arbitrageurs covering an estimated 7 million shares as the stock fell), implying about $2.3-2.4 billion of short exposure used to hedge SpaceX.
  • SpaceX's Q1 2026 revenue was about $3.3 billion (69%) from connectivity/Starlink, $619 million (13%) from space launch and systems, and $818 million (17%) from X/xAI; new short-term compute-leasing deals — Anthropic paying about $1.25 billion/month, Google about $920 million/month, and Reflection AI about $150 million/month (roughly $2.3 billion/month, or about $28 billion annualized) — mean SpaceX's forward revenue could become more than 60% terrestrial AI-compute leasing, which Anpanman says introduces 'basis risk' for anyone shorting space/connectivity names as a pure SpaceX hedge.
  • Japan's telecom regulator (the MIC-equivalent body) approved use of the 700 MHz band — spectrum solely held by Rakuten — for satellite service; combined with the newly announced Rakuten-AST joint venture, Anpanman believes this strongly positions the venture (which he expects to be branded something like 'Satco Japan') to win Japan's J-LEO program, a public-private project worth over $1 billion to build a satellite-based disaster/emergency network akin to the U.S.'s FirstNet.
  • Brazil has approved AST SpaceMobile for commercial satellite service and granted the company 10 MHz by 10 MHz of S-band spectrum at no cost, which Anpanman expects to lead to an MNO joint-venture structure there similar to Europe (Satellite Connect) and the emerging Japan venture.
  • The next AST SpaceX launch, carrying Block 2 BlueBirds 11 through 13, is targeted for the first week of August 2026; Anpanman estimates 4 total SpaceX launches for AST this year and expects the company's prior '45 satellites by year-end' target to slip, likely into Q1 2027, which he says is not a significant setback.

Detailed Discussion7 topics

Sector-wide drawdown and the SpaceX insider hedging thesis

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:26

    AST SpaceMobile has had a roughly 49% peak-to-trough drawdown, with today's low around $67.87; this is a severe drawdown relative to historical ones for the stock.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:26

    The derating across space stocks kicked off at the end of May, triggered by the Blue Origin New Glenn 4 hot-fire test explosion that destroyed Blue Origin's launch pad at SLC-36; since then, positive company-specific news (from AST, Rocket Lab, Planet, etc., including defense contracts) has not moved the stocks.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:26

    Part of the sector weakness reflects liquidity draining out as fast money that had owned space stocks ahead of the SpaceX IPO sold them to buy SpaceX instead; SpaceX has traded as high as about $220 and was recently around $158, and is likely to remain volatile given its public float is only slightly above 5% of the company (after the green shoe was exercised).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:02:51

    The core hedging thesis originated from conversations with Kook, who has friends/contacts who own SpaceX stock (some via SPVs, some as employees) and had been asking how to hedge their SpaceX exposure.

Mechanics of SpaceX insider/VC hedging via public space stocks

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:02:51

    Passive SpaceX holders in an SPV who are not subject to lockup agreements can legally buy SpaceX puts directly; but employees, executives, and VCs who signed the underwriters' lockup agreement are contractually barred from shorting SpaceX or buying puts/derivatives that create an effective short position in SpaceX stock.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:02:51

    To hedge or monetize a locked-up SpaceX position, a holder would typically need to establish a relationship with a bank like Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley to get margin/collateral against the private stock (e.g., roughly 30% margin against a $100 million SpaceX position), then use that collateral to short a basket of other space stocks (not SpaceX itself).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:02:51

    This shows up in Anpanman's tech-banking experience: when executives suddenly become wealthy pre-IPO, banks' high-net-worth groups typically pitch a hedge product that shorts a diversified basket of comparable public names rather than the underlying private stock itself, to avoid idiosyncratic risk in any single name.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:29

    AST has taken the brunt of this hedging versus other space names like Rocket Lab, Redwire, and Planet because AST is one of the few pure-play public proxies for SpaceX's connectivity/Starlink business, which is the largest piece of SpaceX's financials; short interest in Rocket Lab has also risen materially (notably around Friday/Monday), but not as much as in AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:16

    EchoStar is another popular indirect proxy to short SpaceX given EchoStar's SpaceX stake, but Anpanman cautions the EchoStar sum-of-the-parts arbitrage trade (long EchoStar, short SpaceX to close the valuation gap) is difficult — citing trading discount, liquidity, and tax considerations, plus the historical example of the multi-year Alibaba/Yahoo arbitrage — and says these trades need a clear catalyst or corporate event to unlock value, which is unclear here (also flagging uncertainty about what Charlie Ergen would do with proceeds if SpaceX stock were sold).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:02:51

    The first SpaceX lockup expiration is expected around August 20, unlocking 20% of total shares outstanding, with a further 10% unlocking if the stock price holds at a certain level; people are expected to start unwinding hedges before that date to get ahead of others doing the same.

Quantifying AST's short interest

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:29

    AST's short interest is at all-time highs versus when the stock was near $130 at the end of May, even though the share price has fallen about 49% since then.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:29

    There are 4 outstanding convertible bond issuances; the first two have largely been retired, leaving two large tranches of roughly $1.1 billion each. Assuming convert-arb desks hold about 80% of those issuances, they would have had to cover an estimated 7 million shares of their delta-hedge short position as the stock fell from about $130 to about $70.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:29

    Because overall net short interest actually grew despite convert-arb covering, Anpanman estimates outright shorts/hedgers have added about 23-24 million shares short since the $130 top — roughly $2.3 billion of hedge notional at an assumed average price of $100 — a figure he says is consistent with sophisticated SpaceX holders hedging via a basket of comps.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:29

    Ideally this hedging is done via a diversified basket to avoid idiosyncratic risk, but in practice AST has taken an outsized share of the hedging; more recently the hedging appears to be broadening to other names too (e.g., Rocket Lab down about 9% on the day discussed).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:29

    Anpanman views the short position as temporary — once insiders' SpaceX shares unlock and are sold, the hedges should be covered (unless holders have an independent bearish view on space names), which he sees as a coming positive catalyst.

SpaceX's shifting revenue mix and 'basis risk' for space-stock shorts

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:08:16

    SpaceX's Q1 2026 revenue breakdown: connectivity (Starlink) about $3.3 billion or 69%; space launch and systems about $619 million or 13%; X and xAI about $818 million or 17%.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:08:16

    SpaceX has signed new short-term (terminable within about 90 days) compute-leasing deals: Anthropic paying about $1.25 billion/month, Google paying about $920 million/month, and Reflection AI paying about $150 million/month — roughly $2.3 billion/month combined, or about $28 billion annualized — versus SpaceX's full-year 2025 revenue of roughly $19 billion (mostly space systems and xAI).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:16

    Anpanman estimates that going forward, over 60% of 'new SpaceX's' revenue could come from leasing compute infrastructure (apparently built originally for xAI) rather than from space/connectivity, meaning SpaceX is becoming more of a terrestrial data-center company than a pure space company, at least for now.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:52

    This shift introduces 'basis risk' for anyone shorting a basket of space names purely to hedge SpaceX connectivity exposure: a sophisticated hedger should arguably reallocate roughly 60% of their short basket into compute/data-center names (e.g., IREN, NBIS, MARA, CoreWeave) and only about 40% into space names like AST, Rocket Lab, and Firefly, but Anpanman says the relative price action suggests this reallocation has not really happened yet, or has only occurred gradually.

Japan: 700 MHz approval and the J-LEO opportunity

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:23:11

    Japan's telecom regulator (MIC) approved specific 700 MHz spectrum bands — solely owned by Rakuten — for satellite/direct-to-cell use; historically regulators resisted allowing satellites to use terrestrial cellular spectrum over interference concerns, which AST's large phased arrays are designed to avoid.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:30

    Combined with the AST-Rakuten joint venture announced the prior day, Anpanman believes today's 700 MHz approval strongly positions the venture (which he expects will be branded something like 'Satco Japan') for Japan's J-LEO contract, a public-private partnership allocating over $1 billion of Japanese government capital to build a satellite backup network functioning as Japan's equivalent of the U.S.'s FirstNet, addressing risks like earthquakes, tsunamis, and potential conflict-driven network outages.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:11

    Anpanman argues AST has a decisive architectural edge over Starlink for J-LEO because AST's system works with existing, unmodified phones already in the hands of Japan's (including elderly) population, and because low-band spectrum penetrates rubble/buildings far better than the mid-band spectrum Starlink's satellites use — citing an earthquake/building-collapse scenario as the clearest illustration.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:30

    An internal J-LEO decision is expected around the end of June, with the winning bidder likely made public in July or August; Anpanman speculates the result could leak via Japanese reporters (e.g., Nikkei) before an official announcement, and jokingly suggests watching Abel Avellan's demeanor at the upcoming launch as a possible tell.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:30

    A formal Rakuten-AST JV announcement (i.e., a full commercial unveiling) is not expected until either AST/Rakuten win the J-LEO project or get closer to commercial service; the regulator is expected to revisit today's 700 MHz approval at a meeting in September, which may be when formal commercial-service approval and a bigger JV announcement follow.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:30

    Rakuten and AST have reportedly been testing service using SoftBank's spectrum, which Anpanman reads as a signal that SoftBank is likely to eventually join the joint venture; he expects other Japanese carriers (SoftBank, NTT Docomo, and possibly even KDDI) to defect from their current Starlink partnerships and join the Rakuten/AST venture over time, partly because Japanese users have given Starlink poor reviews and because emergency-network law may require interoperability during a terrestrial network outage.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:30

    As part of J-LEO's domestic-industry support angle, AST (per prior comments from Abel Avellan in Q3 of last year) has been in talks with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, whose H3 rocket in its heaviest configuration could carry roughly 3 BlueBirds to LEO; Anpanman suggests J-LEO government funding could subsidize AST launches on a Japanese vehicle, an option not really available to SpaceX/Starlink.

Brazil and other international expansion

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:31:33

    AST recently received approval to operate commercial service in Brazil and was granted 10 MHz by 10 MHz of S-band (MSS) spectrum at no cost.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:33

    Anpanman expects a similar joint-venture structure to emerge in Brazil, likely centered on 1-2 key MNOs who would then invite other Brazilian carriers to join, contributing additional low-band spectrum to complement AST's existing S-band grant; he notes AST has been hiring employees in Brazil, consistent with this expansion.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:33

    Anpanman frames the emerging pattern (Europe's Satellite Connect, an unnamed U.S. venture, and Japan/Brazil) as AST building regional joint ventures market by market.

Launch schedule, production, and other Q&A topics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:18

    BlueBirds 11 through 13 are close to complete; the next SpaceX launch is expected in the first week of August, which Anpanman says matches AST's own due diligence despite some investor hope for a July launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:18

    Anpanman estimates 4 total SpaceX (or equivalent) launches for AST this year, including the upcoming one, implying roughly one launch every 1.25 months for the rest of the year depending on production; he expects the company may announce additional SpaceX launches, plus new launch agreements with ULA, Relativity, and MHI (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries), and possibly Ariane.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:18

    The prior '45 satellites by year-end' target is not going to happen this year, in Anpanman's view; he expects the milestone to shift to around March or April of next year, which he characterizes as not a big deal, with Blue Origin's New Glenn expected to resume launches for AST once it completes roughly 2-3 successful commercial missions after fixing its pad (hoped for around December).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:18

    The T-Mobile/Starlink deal is believed to be ending this month or next month, though Anpanman doesn't expect T-Mobile to fully abandon Starlink immediately; he thinks an AST-T-Mobile arrangement could be announced a few months out, but notes the AST/MNO joint-venture structure (which would enable T-Mobile to work with AST) has not yet gone definitive.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:18

    On the recent AWS-3 spectrum license auction (remaining licenses), Anpanman guesses a single primary bidder purchased most licenses and speculates it was likely AT&T given its relatively lower mid-band exposure; he flags that if SpaceX itself had bought the licenses, that would be a notable signal underscoring MNOs' need to partner with AST to counter SpaceX's move into terrestrial spectrum.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:39:18

    Anpanman references a reported Starlink pitch to the U.S. Department of War for direct-to-cell connectivity to Iranian citizens, allegedly involving a $500 million upfront fee and about $100 million per month ongoing — which he questions on technical grounds since Starlink satellites don't work with existing, unmodified phones the way AST's do.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:39:18

    Anpanman discloses he still holds his leveraged ASTX ETF position (a relatively small position versus his core AST holding), noting he built it up in AST's $60s range earlier at an ASTX price near $23-24, sold before the run to $133, and has been adding again on the recent decline; he notes ASTX has fallen to about $17 now (versus ~$25 the last time AST was in the mid-$60s), illustrating leveraged-ETF compounding losses on a one-way move down, and cautions listeners against trading on margin and against treating options as anything other than money that should be mentally written off.

Watch Items6

  • First SpaceX lockup expiration, unlocking 20% of shares outstanding (with a further 10% possible if price holds at a certain level)

    Around August 20 Anpanman 00:02:51
  • Next AST SpaceX launch carrying Block 2 BlueBirds 11-13

    First week of August Anpanman 00:39:18
  • Japan J-LEO project bidder decision (internal decision, then public announcement)

    Internal decision around end of June; public announcement expected in July or August Anpanman 00:25:30
  • Japanese regulator revisiting today's 700 MHz approval toward full commercial-service authorization

    A meeting expected in September Anpanman 00:25:30
  • T-Mobile's existing Starlink deal expiring, opening a potential path to an AST arrangement

    Ending this month or next month Anpanman 00:39:18
  • Company update on the '45 satellites' production/launch milestone

    Previously targeted for year-end; Anpanman expects a shift to around March/April of next year Anpanman 00:39:18

Open Questions5

  • Will the AST-Rakuten joint venture win Japan's J-LEO contract, and who will be revealed as the winning bidder?

    Anpanman 00:25:30
  • Are SpaceX insiders/VCs already sophisticated enough to be reallocating their hedges away from pure space names into AI-compute names (IREN, NBIS, MARA, CoreWeave) given SpaceX's revenue-mix shift, or is that reallocation still lagging?

    Anpanman 00:16:52
  • Which other Japanese carriers (SoftBank, NTT Docomo, possibly KDDI) will ultimately join the Rakuten/AST joint venture, and will Rakuten permit them to join?

    Anpanman 00:25:30
  • Did SpaceX itself participate in and win any of the recently auctioned AWS-3 spectrum licenses, which would signal SpaceX's ambitions to move into terrestrial spectrum?

    Anpanman 00:39:18
  • Will AST and T-Mobile reach a definitive commercial agreement once T-Mobile's Starlink deal winds down, and when will the broader AST MNO joint-venture structure go definitive?

    Anpanman 00:39:18
2026-06-23 22:52

Kook - Decoding Abel Avellan's 2.5 Million Share Strategy

Kook

Kook fills in solo after Anpanman failed to show up to host the scheduled X Space. He breaks down the regulatory filing showing Abel Avellan executed a second prepaid forward contract for 2.5 million shares, following an identical 2.5 million share tranche in late 2024.

He explains the put-call collar mechanics and argues it's estate-planning/liquidity management rather than a bearish signal from the CEO.

Kook frames the same-day Citigroup hedging-driven selling as a likely 'market clearing event' for ASTS sentiment. He contrasts Avellan's non-dilutive, no-salary compensation philosophy favorably against stock sell-offs by executives at other space companies (Intuitive Machines, Rocket Lab).

The headline conclusion: this is not insider selling and should not be read as Avellan lacking conviction in the stock.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile CEO Abel Avellan executed a second 'prepaid forward' transaction covering 2.5 million shares, following an identical 2.5 million share tranche he did in late 2024, bringing his total shares tied up in these structures to 5 million out of his roughly 78 million total shares owned.
  • Kook explains a prepaid forward as effectively a margin loan against stock that is hedged with a costless put-call collar (buying a put, selling a call), letting Avellan access liquidity without an outright stock sale and without exposing himself to a margin call.
  • Avellan does not take a salary and has taken only modest stock compensation from AST SpaceMobile, arguing that paying himself in cash or heavy stock grants would be dilutive to shareholders since the company isn't yet cash-flow positive; his personal wealth comes almost entirely from ASTS share price appreciation.
  • Kook believes Citigroup, as the counterparty, would have needed to sell ASTS stock same-day to hedge its side of the collar, and thinks this hedging-driven selling contributed to unusual weakness in the stock that day, positioning it as a possible sentiment 'clearing event.'
  • Kook views the timing as considerate: Avellan did the transaction after the successful Block 1 BlueBird launch and after the New Glenn pad explosion news had passed, rather than at the stock's prior all-time highs, which Kook reads as a sign of respect toward retail shareholders.
  • If ASTS shares rise sharply before the roughly one-year structure expires and Avellan does not roll the position, the 2.5 million shares would be delivered to the counterparties at the upper strike price, which would then constitute an actual sale of his stock.
  • Kook contrasts Avellan's approach favorably with other space/SpaceTech executives, citing large insider stock sales at Intuitive Machines and a roughly $100 million stock sale by Rocket Lab's CFO, calling AST SpaceMobile's executive compensation alignment 'top-tier' corporate governance comparable to Jeff Bezos's early Amazon approach.
  • Kook notes he personally checked with brokers and stock-loan data and observed ASTS trading volume normalizing after the initial reaction, suggesting the intensity of the selling pressure was easing.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Setup: Anpanman absent, Kook hosting solo

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook says he was waiting for Anpanman to launch his usual Spaces session, and when Anpanman didn't show up, joked he must be dead, so Kook decided to pick up the mantle and host the discussion himself.

What is a prepaid forward contract

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  • Kook Speculation 00:01:10

    Kook recalls that when ASTS first gapped up (he believes in 2024), he faced a large short-term capital gains tax bill and considered a prepaid forward with his private bankers, but ultimately did not do it — a decision he's glad about since the stock later rose from around $40 to around $70 at time of recording (noting he views the current price as a temporary drawdown from a higher 'real' value).

  • Kook Untagged 00:02:49

    Kook explains the mechanics: a prepaid forward is like taking a margin loan against a stock position, but to avoid margin-call risk you 'collar' the position by buying a protective put and selling a call at a higher strike, funding the put with the premium from the call so the hedge is costless; this boxes the position from the broker's risk perspective while providing cash today.

  • Kook Untagged 00:04:47

    The downside of this structure is that if the stock price rises a lot, you regret having done it because you'd have preferred to keep the unhedged stock; but ignoring taxes, it's still better than an outright sale since the sold call's strike price is higher than the price at the time the structure was put on.

Abel Avellan's specific transaction and share counts

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:05:something~00:06:12

    Avellan did a prepaid forward for 2.5 million shares in late 2024, and has now done it again for an additional 2.5 million shares, bringing the total in these prepaid forward vehicles to 5 million shares out of his roughly 78 million total ASTS shares owned (leaving about 73 million shares uncollateralized/unencumbered).

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:12

    Kook says exact put and call strike prices for the new transaction are not yet known, but could be reverse-engineered on Bloomberg to find strikes that net out to approximately $0 cost.

  • Kook Speculation 00:07:49

    Kook states this is 'absolutely not a CEO selling out' — Avellan has not actually sold shares; he would only part with the 2.5 million collared shares if the stock price rises well above the call strike by expiry and he chooses not to roll the position again.

Abel's non-dilutive compensation philosophy

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  • Kook Speculation 00:04:47

    Avellan takes no salary from AST SpaceMobile — paying himself cash would require issuing shares to fund it since the company lacks positive cash flow, and would therefore be dilutive; he also takes only a modest amount of stock compensation. His true 'income' comes from the wealth generated by his stock ownership as founder, monetized periodically via structures like this prepaid forward rather than via company-paid compensation.

Citigroup hedging, transaction timing, and market impact

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  • Kook Speculation 00:06:12

    Kook believes that when Avellan's prior 2.5 million share prepaid forward was disclosed, it was also executed the same day, because pre-announcing such a structure would let the market front-run the hedging flow; he assumes with '99% probability' the new transaction was also executed on the day it was disclosed, which he believes explains unusual weakness in ASTS that day even though it outperformed other space stocks.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:12

    Kook notes the timing is coming up against an approaching quarter-end blackout period (exact blackout dates unknown to him) during which a CEO typically cannot transact, which he believes factored into the timing.

  • Kook Speculation 00:07:49

    Kook praises Avellan for not executing this transaction at the stock's prior all-time highs (ahead of the recent launch and before the New Glenn pad explosion), calling the chosen timing — after a successful Block 1 BlueBird launch — a 'gentleman's move' and an expression of respect toward retail shareholders.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:02

    Kook frames the combination of a panicked/rock-bottom sentiment environment plus this hedging-driven selling as a possible 'market clearing event' for ASTS, and says he was personally adding to his position today using a strategy he calls 'Torques' (selling a put spread to buy an out-of-the-money call), though he held back from full size to think it over further.

Rolling call options and expiry mechanics

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  • Kook Speculation 00:10:17

    Kook draws a parallel to his own experience selling covered calls last September that got deep in-the-money after the stock ran through $100, forcing him to repeatedly roll the calls to avoid assignment; he expects Avellan will have similar 'avenues' to roll his structure, likely expiring in about one year's time.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:17

    If the stock price rises too far above the call strike (using a hypothetical example of the stock at $250 against a made-up $95 strike), it becomes very hard to roll the call, and the structure would settle by delivering the 2.5 million shares to the counterparties at the upper strike band — which would then represent an actual sale of Avellan's stock at that time.

Sentiment, the 'kook bottom,' and stock lending/float observations

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  • Kook Speculation 00:12:27

    Kook describes very negative retail sentiment ('the kook bottom') and notes ASTS often trades inversely to SpaceX-related news/sentiment; he has been checking with brokers on stock-loan flow and observed ASTS trading volumes starting to normalize, which he interprets as selling intensity coming down.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:02

    Kook says he personally is 'fully lent out' on his own ASTS shares (owning a portion of the float below the 13G disclosure threshold) and uses that information about short positioning to inform his trading, refusing to sell while he knows shorts haven't covered.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:32

    Kook credits an X account 'Reformed Trader' for good work identifying turning points, and says they had been discussing that today or tomorrow would likely mark the bottom even before knowing about Avellan's transaction.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:32

    Kook recounts a lesson from a former Pequot Capital portfolio manager (he recalls the name as possibly 'Arthur Pettit,' expressing uncertainty about the exact name) that 'bad news travels in packs,' and applies this framework to argue that a rock-bottom sentiment environment plus Avellan's filing together represent the kind of clearing event he looks for.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:32

    Kook says he did not expect the New Glenn pad explosion and feared it would 'suck the energy' out of the market for space stocks, but chose not to trade around that fear since he doesn't trade his core position; he now views the combination of events as a 'complete reset' and is 'setting up for an exciting summer.'

Comparison to governance at other companies

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  • Kook Speculation 00:18:02

    Kook contrasts Avellan's behavior with 'enormous stock sales' by executives at Intuitive Machines ('the Lunar guys') and a roughly $100 million stock sale by Rocket Lab's CFO, saying the latter would scare him if he saw it from AST SpaceMobile management, even though it didn't stop Rocket Lab's stock.

  • Kook Speculation 00:18:02

    Kook likens Avellan's compensation philosophy — foregoing stock grants because he already owns enough — to Jeff Bezos's approach at early Amazon, calling it a top-class corporate governance model and saying this alignment gave him extra confidence in what was a risky, and is increasingly a de-risked, investment.

  • Kook Speculation 00:18:02

    Kook says that if he ever saw 'piggy' executive behavior at AST SpaceMobile, it would turn him off and could make him reconsider his position sizing, but that so far governance and executive alignment have been top-tier on the issues he cares about most.

Personal financial/estate-planning framing and closing remarks

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  • Kook Speculation 00:21:27

    Kook estimates Avellan's stock holdings at roughly '$7 billion... $4, whatever it is, $5 billion' worth (garbled/uncertain figure), and argues that owning that much concentrated, illiquid stock creates real tax and estate-planning complexity, justifying a need for some liquidity via structures like the prepaid forward.

  • Kook Untagged 00:21:27

    Kook says he was personally working on his own trust and estate planning that same day and empathizes with the type of liquidity/estate-tax-exemption planning conversations Avellan is likely having with his bankers, though Kook says these structures aren't right for his own situation and he can achieve similar things on his own.

  • Kook Untagged 00:21:27

    Kook closes by reiterating that if listeners are long-term investors this context should be reassuring, but that short-term traders 'are on the wrong call' since he can't help them; he signs off expecting continued volatility overnight.

Watch Items2

  • Expiry/rolling decision on Abel Avellan's newest 2.5 million share prepaid forward structure

    Kook estimates roughly one year from the transaction (spitballing) Kook 00:10:17
  • Approaching corporate quarter-end blackout period restricting further CEO stock transactions

    Unspecified exact dates, described as coming up soon Kook 00:06:12

Open Questions3

  • What are the exact put and call strike prices on Abel Avellan's new prepaid forward structure?

    Kook 00:06:12
  • What are the exact blackout period dates governing when the CEO can transact in ASTS stock?

    Kook 00:06:12
  • Was the new prepaid forward actually executed the same day it was disclosed, as Kook assumes with '99% probability'?

    Kook 00:06:12
2026-06-23 44:54

Kook's Weekly - The Japanese Billions and the FirstNet Future

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' episode, published the same day as the successful Falcon 9 launch of BlueBirds 8, 9, and 10, Kook recaps the SpaceMob community's Orlando launch trip and tribute to the late early investor Steve Larison.

He then digs into the technical and business implications of the launch: confirmed correct orbital insertion, a scaled-up production queue (BlueBirds 11-37), and a major satellite weight reduction from composite-casing improvements.

He also covers recurring FirstNet references in FCC filings, speculative 'data bird' power-platform theories, the Japan J-LEO subsidy opportunity, and Blue Origin's New Glenn hot-fire test. He adds heavy short-interest pressure on ASTS, which he attributes to investors hedging private SpaceX stakes.

His headline conclusion is that the team ('the jockey') has repeatedly solved engineering problems critics called impossible, and that current negative sentiment looks like a pre-snapback low ahead of Russell 2000 inclusion and further catalysts.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook confirms the recent BlueBird launch inserted the satellites into the correct orbit, a contrast implicitly drawn with a prior launch's orbit issue, and says orbit has been independently confirmed by an outside astrophysics professor tracking the satellites.
  • AST SpaceMobile has disclosed BlueBirds 11 through 37 are now in production, with BlueBirds 11, 12, and 13 in final prep to ship; this is four more satellites added to the queue since the last update, which had run through BlueBird 32.
  • Kook believes (his own guess, not company-stated) that the next batch of BlueBirds could ship in the first week of July, with a resulting launch he estimates around August, though he notes he habitually pushes his own launch-date guess back a month.
  • A third-party analysis by 'Kevin Chen' estimates each BlueBird adds 20-30 minutes of daily coverage in key markets, meaning three satellites add roughly 60-90 minutes; the analysis projects initial non-continuous consumer beta service at 20-25 satellites and continuous coverage in key markets at 45-60 satellites.
  • A new composite/carbon-fiber casing design has reduced satellite mass from about 6.5 tons on the FM1/FM2 (BlueBird 6/7) satellites down to roughly 4 tons on newer builds, which Kook says meaningfully improves launch economics by allowing more phased-array square footage per pound of cargo in a fixed launch fairing.
  • Kook flags recurring FCC filing language naming FirstNet alongside AT&T and Verizon as an ASTS MNO partner as evidence a FirstNet commercial deal is coming, and speculates (his own guess) it could be worth roughly $1 billion a year in usage and subscription revenue.
  • Kook raises speculative interest in a Japan 'J-LEO' government subsidy program (a roughly billion-dollar Ministry of Internal Affairs incentive for operators bringing D2D satellite constellations under Japanese management), pointing to circumstantial signals — AST's new APAC head being based in Tokyo, a former NEC employee, and speculation about a Mitsubishi Heavy H3 rocket agreement — as reasons AST could be positioning for a Japan-specific sovereign play, while cautioning this is pure speculation not yet reflected in the stock price.
  • A guest counterpoint from 'Alex D' argues MDA (Missile Defense Agency-adjacent satellite maker, referenced as a paper-constellation supplier) may have a legitimate shot at winning Japan business instead of AST, though Kook is skeptical of MDA's technology and unit economics for a Japan-only constellation.
  • Kook says ASTS shares are 'max lent out' (fully utilized for short borrowing) and attributes much of this to investors who hold large private SpaceX stakes hedging that exposure by shorting ASTS and other space-adjacent names, rather than bearishness on AST's own fundamentals.
  • Kook expects this hedging pressure to ease as SpaceX-related liquidity events settle and as ASTS's pending Russell 2000 index inclusion changes the stock's liquidity dynamics, and describes current sentiment as a possible capitulation low ('Kook Bottom') ahead of a rebound.

Detailed Discussion13 topics

Launch week recap and SpaceMob community

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  • Kook Untagged 00:01:38

    Kook describes flying to Orlando with roughly 20 SpaceMob community members for a self-hosted 2:38-2:39 AM launch viewing event, calling it remarkable that a public company has an almost 'Grateful Dead'-like fan following, and crediting SpaceMob's retail thought leaders (not the company itself, which he says doesn't 'pump' its own story) for building understanding of the opportunity.

  • Kook Untagged 00:03:45

    Kook and the group visited the burial site of Steve Larison, an early ASTS investor with no family, in a gesture organized by Anpanman; Kook recounts that Larison had previously sold Amazon stock early in the 2000s and vowed never to sell 'the big one' on a pop again, riding AST SpaceMobile to the end instead.

  • Kook Untagged 00:06:00

    Kook credits the early COVID-era dialogue between Steve Larison (a software engineer with a defense-industry background) and 'Katzi' (strong on the mechanical/antenna-unfolding side) as the two pieces of subject-matter expertise needed to understand AST's technology, with Kook and Anpanman positioning themselves as amplifiers rather than technical experts.

Launch outcome and satellite production scaling

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:07:19

    Kook says the recent Falcon 9 launch inserted the satellites into the correct orbit this time, thanks SpaceX, and notes the satellites were locked down (TT&C link established) within minutes rather than the hours that can sometimes be required, calling this evidence of a robust platform and a 'high 100%' launch hit rate absent launch-vehicle error.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:07:19

    Orbit and detumbling status has been independently confirmed via an outside tracker Kook calls 'the Harvard professor' (an astrophysicist who tracks the satellites), corroborating Katzi's own bird-watching/tracking analysis.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:07:46

    The company disclosed BlueBirds 11 through 37 are now in production, with BlueBirds 11, 12, and 13 in final prep to ship — four more satellites added to the pipeline since the last update, which had run through BlueBird 32.

  • Kook Speculation 00:07:46

    Kook believes (his own guess) that the next batch of BlueBirds could ship the first week of July, and thinks the market isn't focused on delivery cadence because it's still fixated on launch-vehicle availability, when satellites leaving the facility for launch is actually the best test of both launch-vehicle access and operational cadence; he believes ASTS has at least 5 Falcon 9 launches lined up in succession.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:17

    Citing a third-party analysis by 'Kevin Chen,' Kook says each BlueBird adds 20-30 minutes of daily coverage in key markets, so 3 satellites add 60-90 minutes; 20-25 satellites would enable initial non-continuous coverage with some consumer beta service, and 45-60 satellites would deliver continuous coverage in key markets — contrasted with Starlink's model needing hundreds of much smaller satellites.

Investing psychology and moonbags

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  • Kook Speculation 00:12:38

    Kook reflects on the tendency to get bored or anxious with a slow-moving growth stock and sell too early, describing his own past mistake of selling covered calls and only capturing 30% gains before a stock re-rated sharply higher; he credits a retail acquaintance ('Littrell Spackwell') with teaching him to keep a 'moonbag' position for asymmetric upside scenarios.

  • Kook Speculation 00:12:38

    As an example of a moonbag-worthy idea, Kook mentions he owns Horizon Quantum (ticker HQ), a roughly $500 million market cap company (his figure), acquired partly by being lazy about selling after Anpanman and 'Tutte' sold their positions.

"Competition for the internet" investment thesis

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  • Kook Speculation 00:14:39

    Kook explains his long-running personal joke/thesis that ASTS represents 'competition for the internet,' an idea he jokingly conceived with a friend in high school in the 1990s, and which he sees Elon Musk having realized with Starlink at an implied valuation of roughly $2 trillion (his figure); he argues AST SpaceMobile represents his chance to invest in a similarly transformative, low-friction consumer satellite connectivity business.

Engineering: composite casing and weight reduction

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:16:47

    Kook says the satellites' carbon-fiber support rings have load-bearing capacity comparable to supporting the Statue of Liberty or a 747, and credits the company with solving what critics ('FUDsters') correctly identified as an extraordinarily difficult carbon-fiber casing engineering challenge, even though those critics wrongly assumed it was unsolvable.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:16:47

    The new composite casing reduces satellite mass from about 6.5 tons on FM1/FM2 (BlueBirds 6 and 7) down to roughly 4 tons on newer builds, which Kook says dramatically improves constellation economics by allowing more phased-array square footage to be launched per pound of cargo in a fixed-capacity fairing.

"Jockey versus horse" investment thesis

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  • Kook Speculation 00:19:15

    Kook articulates his belief that the biggest investment returns come from betting on the management team ('the jockey') rather than the specific current technology ('the horse'), arguing AST SpaceMobile's leadership has repeatedly solved engineering problems (like the casing redesign) that go far beyond what he understood to be possible when he first invested.

Speculation on "data birds" and NSA-linked hiring

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  • Kook Speculation 00:21:09

    Kook speculates — explicitly labeling it pure speculation — that AST may be developing dedicated on-orbit power-generation satellites ('data birds'), floating the idea that AST could act as an independent power platform provider hosting other companies' payloads rather than selling connectivity itself for those satellites.

  • Kook Rumor 00:21:09

    Kook cites a community member's find of a junior software developer job posting for a joint Nokia/ASTS project stating 'due to NSA requirements, sponsorship will not be offered,' taking it as a signal of a government/defense-linked project.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:09

    Citing commentary from 'Reform Trader' and 'Chris Knight,' Kook notes the batch-one launch press release specifically highlighted the satellites' 'high power generation in orbit,' which he interprets as an intentional signal (a 'Scott move') hinting that dedicated power/data-bird satellites are coming, since power itself isn't the RF connectivity product AST normally sells.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:09

    Kook mentions that 'Decatzee' has decoded new symbolism on the mission patches (an 'ACE' / Non-Terrestrial Network reference, following a prior patch with MILNET in Morse code), consistent with AST's previously disclosed non-communication use cases.

Regulatory filings and FirstNet

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  • Kook Speculation 00:22:31

    Kook references research shared by Anpanman on a reported joint venture among AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile (announced in May, per Kook, exact date not given), speculating the arrangement is structured to satisfy antitrust/FTC requirements (separate individual contracts, no price-fixing) and may function as a mechanism to box out SpaceX — which Kook argues would indirectly benefit AST SpaceMobile.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:22:31

    Kook notes that an FCC docket has once again (he says for the '568th time') named ASTS as providing additional capacity and coverage for AT&T, Verizon, and FirstNet as MNO partners in a routine regulatory filing.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:31

    Kook says he still doesn't know the specific structure of an eventual FirstNet commercial deal, but his strongest guess is that it could represent roughly $1 billion a year in revenue through usage and subscription agreements.

Japan J-LEO subsidy and sovereign constellation strategy

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:18

    Kook introduces Japan's 'J-LEO' program from the Ministry of Internal Affairs as a roughly billion-dollar subsidy for operators bringing direct-to-device satellite constellations under Japanese management, and speculates AST could be positioning to win it given its existing Rakuten partnership and the Connect Europe/SatCo sovereign-JV model as a template.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:18

    Kook argues AST's new head of APAC business development being based in Tokyo (a former NEC employee, NEC being AST's key Micron manufacturing partner) only makes sense if a bigger Japan opportunity is in play, since he characterizes AST's existing Rakuten commercial contract (from the Series B) as a weak deal that gave away the service component in exchange for capital.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:18

    Kook mentions speculation (attributed to community 'cards flipping into place,' including a point from Anpanman) around a possible AST agreement with Mitsubishi Heavy for the H3 launch vehicle, framed as building Japanese local content and value chain to support a Japan-sovereign constellation narrative.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:18

    Kook cautions this entire Japan J-LEO thread is speculative, was not previously on his radar, and is unlikely to be priced into the stock; he says if AST does not win it, he doesn't think it matters much, but winning would be a positive surprise.

MDA counterpoint and European constellation efforts

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:29:48

    A community member, 'Alex D,' offered a counterpoint that MDA (described by Kook as a satellite-building supplier to parties pursuing 'paper constellations') may have a legitimate shot at winning Japan business instead of AST; Kook is skeptical, citing MDA's track record as a third-party prime with different incentives and questioning the economics of a Japan-only dedicated constellation versus a global one with built-in sovereignty controls.

  • Kook Speculation 00:29:48

    Kook discusses Europe's competing sovereign satellite effort (the IRIS2-style constellation involving Eutelsat, SES, and Hispasat), describing it as burdened by 'pork complexity' from having to satisfy multiple national governments (e.g., France, Italy), and notes SpaceX has criticized the EU's plan for distributing 2 GHz satellite spectrum.

  • Kook Speculation 00:29:48

    Kook argues Vodafone/AST have effectively already found a 'fast track' sovereign model in Europe (via legal structuring so the JV is treated as sovereign) and suggests the same approach should be repeatable in Japan.

Blue Origin / New Glenn

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:33:03

    Kook describes watching a 41-minute New Glenn engine hot-fire test in full, calling the duration a sign Blue Origin (under CEO David Limp) has serious engine technology, comparing it to redlining a car engine for 41 minutes straight.

  • Kook Rumor 00:33:03

    Kook relays an unverified account from an anonymous source he calls a 'space barber' that the recent New Glenn mishap was caused by a software issue failing to cut off a sensor detecting a liquid oxygen problem, rather than a flaw in the rocket's underlying architecture.

Market sentiment, short interest, and hedging dynamics

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  • Kook Speculation 00:35:21

    Kook says ASTS shares are effectively 'max lent out' (every available share borrowed for short-selling), which he attributes largely to investors with large private SpaceX holdings hedging that exposure by shorting ASTS (and similar names like Rocket Lab) rather than to bearishness on AST's own fundamentals.

  • Kook Speculation 00:35:21

    Kook compares the current SpaceX-hedging dynamic to Goldman Sachs partners setting up funds specifically to short Goldman stock around its IPO as a workaround to trading restrictions, and predicts that as SpaceX-linked liquidity events resolve and people cover lazy/basis-mismatched short positions, ASTS could see a sharp squeeze-like move higher, especially heading into a period of low summer liquidity and pending Russell 2000 inclusion.

  • Kook Speculation 00:39:29

    Kook describes his own sentiment as currently 'crap' / a possible 'Kook Bottom' capitulation low, similar to a feeling he had a few weeks earlier when the stock was in the 80s just before it ran to the 90s and 100s, and says this dynamic often precedes a rebound ('snapback').

  • Kook Speculation 00:39:29

    Kook expects the first week of July and summer generally to be historically strong periods for ASTS, and reiterates his guess that the next BlueBird shipment/launch could occur around August, while cautioning he habitually pushes his own launch estimates back a month.

Community and closing remarks

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  • Kook Untagged 00:39:29

    Kook thanks the SpaceMob community for attending the launch event, singles out Katzi and the late Steve Larison for their contributions to the community's technical understanding, and also credits 'Spack Torrey,' a former U.S. Army signal intelligence officer and early mentor he calls 'Katzi 1.0,' who is no longer invested but helped him learn about the company early on.

  • Kook Speculation 00:39:29

    Kook restates that his goal isn't just building community but achieving a 10x to 20x return on his ASTS investment from current levels.

Watch Items5

  • Next BlueBird batch shipment from Midland

    Kook's guess: first week of July Kook 00:07:46
  • Next BlueBird launch

    Kook's guess: around August (he notes he habitually pushes his own estimate back a month) Kook 00:39:29
  • Russell 2000 index inclusion

    Described as 'about to happen,' no specific date given Kook 00:35:21
  • Potential FirstNet commercial agreement

    No timing given ('we'll get a deal when we get a deal') Kook 00:22:31
  • Japan J-LEO subsidy program outcome / possible AST involvement

    No specific date given in this episode Kook 00:26:18

Open Questions6

  • Is AST SpaceMobile actually positioning to win Japan's J-LEO subsidy program, or is the Tokyo-based APAC hire and Mitsubishi Heavy H3 speculation unrelated to any real bid?

    Kook 00:26:18
  • Will MDA instead win the Japan opportunity, and if so, can a Japan-only dedicated constellation even be economically viable given Japan's small geographic footprint?

    Kook 00:29:48
  • Are 'data bird' power-generation satellites a real, distinct product line, and if so, would AST sell RF connectivity, or act as an independent power platform hosting other companies' payloads?

    Kook 00:21:09
  • What will the structure and value of an eventual FirstNet commercial agreement actually look like?

    Kook 00:22:31
  • Will the reported AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture pass FTC scrutiny, and does it function to box out SpaceX in a way that benefits AST SpaceMobile?

    Kook 00:22:31
  • Will SpaceX-related hedging pressure on ASTS shares ease as private SpaceX liquidity events resolve, or does the correlation persist?

    Kook 00:35:21
2026-06-23 59:59

Anpanman - August Launch Confirmed - The Billion Dollar Race to First Service

Anpanman

Anpanman delivers a solo update on AST SpaceMobile, leading with breaking news that BlueBirds 11, 12, and 13 are confirmed to launch in the first half of August 2026 on a SpaceX Falcon 9.

He covers Abel Avellan's small collar transaction, a broader market selloff tied to an Asian memory-chip rout, and near-record ASTS short interest with the setup for a potential squeeze around SpaceX's August lockup expiration.

He closes with a deep dive into why he believes the new Rakuten 50/50 joint venture ('Satellite Connect Japan') positions AST to win Japan's ¥148 billion J-LEO direct-to-device subsidy program over Starlink.

His headline conclusion: the stock has likely bottomed for now, and AST is structurally favored to win J-LEO due to sovereignty, low-band spectrum, and unmodified-phone compatibility advantages Starlink lacks.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile confirmed (news broke on Bloomberg first) that BlueBirds 11, 12, and 13 will launch in the first half of August 2026 on a SpaceX Falcon 9, continuing the Block 2 satellite buildout toward commercial direct-to-device service.
  • Real-time ASTS short interest hit an all-time high of about 76.9 million shares, up from 64 million shares on June 10, even though convertible-note arbitrageurs were net covering shares as the stock fell from about $104 to the high-$60s/$70s — Anpanman argues this means outright short positioning is larger than the headline number implies.
  • Anpanman believes SpaceX's upcoming share lockup expiration (a minimum 20%, potentially up to 30%, of SpaceX shares becoming tradable around August 20) could trigger an ASTS short squeeze, as investors short a 'space basket' as a hedge against private SpaceX holdings sell SpaceX and cover their ASTS shorts once shares unlock.
  • AST SpaceMobile and Rakuten announced a new 50/50 joint venture, 'Satellite Connect Japan,' modeled on the existing Satellite Connect Europe structure with Vodafone, aimed at winning Japan's J-LEO direct-to-device subsidy program (up to ¥148 billion covering up to 50% of eligible costs, decision expected by end of June 2026).
  • Anpanman argues AST/Rakuten meet the core J-LEO bid criteria — Japanese ownership/control of ground infrastructure, disaster roaming across carriers, video calling for roughly 70% of each day (~16.8 hours), low-band spectrum penetration for disaster scenarios, and an executable launch plan potentially using Mitsubishi Heavy rockets — in ways he thinks Starlink's mid-band, externally-controlled architecture cannot currently satisfy.
  • CEO Abel Avellan entered a collar transaction covering 2 million of his roughly 78 million AST SpaceMobile shares as a financial-planning exercise; Anpanman calls it de minimis given Avellan has not sold shares in the six years since the company went public.
  • Anpanman does not expect AST SpaceMobile to hit a previously discussed target of 45 satellites in orbit by year-end 2026, instead guessing 20-25 satellites by year-end and 45 by late Q1/early Q2 2027, noting the company has not formally updated its guidance.
  • Anpanman sees a very low probability of SpaceX acquiring AST SpaceMobile, citing US antitrust law (the Sherman and Clayton Acts) and the government's stated preference for a diversity of direct-to-device suppliers.
  • Anpanman does not anticipate near-term additional shareholder dilution, citing AST's stated $3+ billion cash balance, the absence of an active ATM program, and comments from Scott Wisniewski that there are no plans for additional convertible debt, with commercial MNO prepayments cited as the near-term funding focus.
  • Anpanman speculates Elon Musk avoids discussing AST SpaceMobile publicly because Starlink's direct-to-cell effort (built via its acquisition of IoT company Swarm) arrived after AST's, and highlighting a competitor that got there first would undercut Starlink's and T-Mobile's 'first to market' narrative.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Breaking News: BlueBirds 11-13 Launch Window Confirmed

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    News hit the tape, first reported on Bloomberg, that BlueBirds 11, 12, and 13 will launch in the first half of August; the company had not yet tweeted it as of the recording.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:52

    Anpanman's guess is the Falcon 9 is scheduled for either the first or second week of August, since the satellites are close to being completed and tested.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:11

    Anpanman expects the next batch of BlueBirds to ship (or get a shipment-readiness PR) around the second week of July.

Abel Avellan's Collar Transaction

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:42

    Abel Avellan owns 78 million shares of AST SpaceMobile (last count); he entered a collar transaction the prior night as a financial-planning exercise covering 2 million of those 78 million shares.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:42

    Kook covered the collar transaction in detail on his own Space; Anpanman calls the 2 million share amount 'pretty de minimis' since Avellan hasn't sold any stock in the six years since the company went public (and possibly none since founding).

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:01:42

    The collar involves a loan that, depending on performance at the end of the period (believed to be sometime early next year), Avellan will settle in either shares or cash, at his choosing.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:42

    Avellan previously entered a similar collar transaction around 2024 and, rather than settling in shares, rolled up the strikes because he didn't want to sell any shares.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:42

    Anpanman frames this as generally healthy: executives like Avellan or Scott Wisniewski should be financially secure enough to stay focused on executing for the company rather than worrying about personal finances.

Overnight Market Selloff and the AI Memory Cycle

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:05:37

    The Korean KOSPI index fell about 10% overnight, driven by a selloff in AI-linked memory names (Samsung, SK Hynix and similar), which had been trading at low single-digit P/E multiples despite currently 'over-earning.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:05:37

    Anpanman notes memory is inherently cyclical (boom periods lead to overbuilding of fabs, then demand drops), and questions whether AI demand data-center pullthrough for memory has peaked, though he says the current boom cycle could still run longer than expected.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:05:37

    A new memory-sector ETF called DRAM invests in Micron and SanDisk in the US plus Japanese and Korean memory players, illustrating how a Korean selloff can spill into US-listed names via relative valuation and leverage.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:05:37

    Anpanman argues leveraged Korean retail investors getting margin-called can cascade into selling of unrelated US holdings, including ASTS and IonQ (IONQ), which he says is widely held by Korean retail investors, similarly to what was observed around the last Bluebird launch.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:05:37

    ASTS traded down to about $69 overnight before rebounding; the stock had peaked just before the Blue Origin New Glenn incident (May 29) and had been on a largely unidirectional decline since, back to roughly early-May price levels.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:05:37

    Anpanman believes space stocks broadly have been de-rated as SpaceX-related enthusiasm has drained out of the sector, and thinks ASTS may have reached at least a near-term bottom because sentiment is 'completely bombed out.'

Record Short Interest, Convertible Arbitrage, and the SpaceX Lockup Squeeze Setup

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:17

    Real-time short interest in ASTS hit an all-time high, reaching 76.9 million shares as of the prior day (up from 64 million shares on June 10, when the stock was around $104).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:17

    Anpanman explains that convertible-note arbitrageurs delta-hedge against the underlying warrant/bond: as the stock falls (from $104 toward $77), they become less long and have to cover (buy back) shares, meaning some of the raw short-interest change already reflects covering, not just new shorting.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:17

    Because convert arbs were likely net covering several million shares as the stock fell, the rise from 64 million to 77 million shares short implies there are a lot more outright shorts (fundamental shorts or hedged 'space basket' shorts, e.g. via Goldman swaps) than the headline number alone suggests.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:17

    Anpanman flags an upcoming SpaceX share lockup: a minimum of 20% of SpaceX shares become tradable on August 20, with up to an additional 10% (30% total) unlocking depending on SpaceX's trading performance.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:17

    Anpanman theorizes that when SpaceX shares unlock, investors holding a hedged 'space basket' short (including ASTS) against private SpaceX stakes will sell their newly liquid SpaceX shares and cover their ASTS shorts, creating a potential squeeze dynamic given how heavily shorts have piled into AST.

Leveraged ETF Risk and Sector Watchlist

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:14:32

    Anpanman advises against using margin, and against holding leveraged ETFs (like the bullish ASTX product tracking ASTS) for long periods, since compounding causes severe underperformance during unidirectional down moves.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:14:32

    Illustrating the decay: when ASTS hit about $65 in May, ASTX was around $21; when ASTS hit about $69 this morning, ASTX was only around $17 — meaning someone holding ASTX through that period would have significantly underperformed simply holding ASTS.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:14:32

    Anpanman recommends maintaining a watchlist of peer space stocks (BlackSky, Firefly, Intuitive Machines, MDA Space, Planet Labs, Redwire, Rocket Lab) to distinguish sector-wide moves from company-specific issues, noting the whole space sector has been down, not just ASTS.

Rakuten Joint Venture: Satellite Connect Japan

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:17:37

    Rakuten announced it will form a 50/50-capitalized joint venture with AST SpaceMobile; Anpanman's guess is AST contributes satellites, technology and know-how while Rakuten contributes capital.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:42

    This JV structure mirrors Satellite Connect Europe, which AST formed with Vodafone and later brought in additional partners including Orange, Telefónica, CK Hutchison, and Telenor; Anpanman guesses Deutsche Telekom will also eventually join the European JV.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:37

    The JV is intended to be established within 2026, likely within the next few months, and was clearly designed to help win Japan's J-LEO project, with a decision expected within about a week (end of June).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:37

    The JV structure allows competitor carriers (KDDI, NTT Docomo, SoftBank) to access Rakuten's exclusive AST network during disaster/emergency roaming scenarios via pooled spectrum protocols, even though Rakuten remains the exclusive commercial user.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:17:37

    Currently, KDDI, NTT Docomo and SoftBank (Japan's three major carriers) all use Starlink for direct-to-cell, with KDDI as the senior/first partner; Rakuten, the smaller challenger carrier, holds exclusive rights to AST's service in Japan. Anpanman notes these Starlink carrier agreements are non-exclusive and, per disclosures from the SpaceX IPO, can be terminated at any time.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:17:37

    Citing a tweet from Katzy (which he retweeted), Anpanman notes AST and Rakuten are testing satellite service over SoftBank's spectrum, which requires SoftBank's permission and suggests SoftBank is likely to eventually join the Satellite Connect Japan joint venture.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:17:37

    Back in January, Rakuten notified AST SpaceMobile it was stepping down from AST's board, and it later emerged Rakuten sold half of its AST stake (15 million shares), retaining the other half; at the time this was read as balance-sheet deleveraging, but Anpanman now speculates it was also to fund/strengthen Rakuten's financial position for the J-LEO bid.

J-LEO Project Requirements and AST/Rakuten's Positioning vs. Starlink

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:22:42

    J-LEO will select a single winner; the Japanese government's fiscal 2026 budget (first disclosed November 2025) allocated up to ¥148 billion in assistance covering no more than 50% of eligible costs, with the consortium financing the remainder; bidding opened in March 2026 and a winner decision is expected by the end of June 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:42

    Criterion 1 — Japanese ownership/operational control: the winner must be a Japan-incorporated entity that owns, operates and manages the LEO infrastructure itself, with all ground facilities (gateways, operational/payload/network control centers) located in Japan; Anpanman argues AST's bent-pipe architecture and the new Japan-owned JV satisfy this, while Starlink's model (fully owned/operated by Starlink, providing only an eSIM to carriers like T-Mobile) does not, unless Starlink creates a new Japan-controlled entity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Criterion 2 — direct-to-smartphone service by March 2029: both AST and Starlink can plausibly meet this deadline; Anpanman is skeptical MDA Space and Telesat (speculated as possible bidders) could build a full constellation and launch service in time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Sub-criterion — video calling for roughly 70% of each day nationwide (about 16.8 hours/day): Anpanman argues this effectively disqualifies Starlink's current 650-satellite V1 direct-to-device constellation, which he says only supports narrowband data (not video calling with multiple users in a cell), while AST believes it can deliver continuous coverage over Japan with 45-60 satellites.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Sub-criterion — service to general (existing) users: AST's service works with unmodified existing phones, whereas Starlink's approach requires a new chipset for V1 and an entirely new one for future V2 satellites (targeted around 2028-2029), which Anpanman argues makes Starlink poorly suited for near-term, backwards-compatible disaster/emergency use.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Low-band spectrum: AST's Block 2 satellites use low-band spectrum, which Anpanman argues is critical for penetrating rubble/debris in disaster scenarios, versus Starlink's current mid-band-only architecture, which he says can't penetrate obstacles as effectively and would require a new, larger phased-array satellite and MNO partnerships to access low-band.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Criterion 3 — disaster roaming across Japanese operators: the winning system must support Japan's planned emergency interoperator roaming, letting any Japanese carrier's subscribers roam onto the JLEO operator's satellite service during a terrestrial outage; Anpanman notes Starlink has not formed an equivalent joint venture with KDDI to serve this role.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Criterion 4 — spectrum licensing path: bidders need a credible path to uplink/downlink spectrum (own, lease, or JV contribution), not necessarily ownership today; Rakuten holds 700 MHz low-band plus some mid-band spectrum, while Anpanman argues this likely disqualifies MDA Space, which lacks an MNO partner.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Deployment plan / launch vehicle criterion: AST and Rakuten could contract Mitsubishi Heavy (whose 6-SRB configuration can launch 3 Block 2 satellites per launch) for part of the constellation, supporting Japan's domestic space program and economy — something Anpanman says Starlink/SpaceX would not do given its own launch capacity.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:30:27

    AST sources solar film for its satellites from Sharp in Japan; Anpanman recalls the company originally planned to outsource 'Micron' module manufacturing to a Japanese partner (possibly Sharp) with roughly $500 million of Japanese ExIm-equivalent financing, before deciding to bring manufacturing in-house, though it still sources solar panels from Sharp today.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Criterion 5 — financial stability/post-subsidy operation: bidders must show technical capability, staffing, a fully funded plan, and a viable commercial model; Anpanman says AST/Rakuten meet this given demonstrated video calling in Japan and financial capacity.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:30:27

    The J-LEO program does not mandate a specific satellite architecture (bent-pipe or onboard processing both allowed), does not require domestic manufacturing initially, and does not require every satellite be exclusively dedicated to Japan — meaning AST can leverage its shared global constellation (as with Satellite Connect Europe) as long as ownership/control of supporting ground infrastructure and domestic service requirements are met.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:27

    Anpanman does not believe the market is currently pricing in a potential J-LEO win for AST, since the stock hasn't reflected it over the last few weeks; he'd be disappointed if Starlink wins but sees AST as clearly better positioned on the stated criteria.

Sovereignty and the 'Kill Switch' Factor

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:42:27

    Anpanman frames sovereignty/control as central to why countries like Japan (and comparably India) want their own governed satellite infrastructure rather than relying on Starlink, citing Elon Musk's past unilateral decision to turn off Starlink service related to the Ukraine-Russia conflict as the 'kill switch' scenario nations want to avoid.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:42:27

    Under AST's model, the local JV/MNO effectively owns, operates, and controls the network in-country, so there's no external kill switch; data goes directly from the phone up to the satellite and back down to the local network operator rather than routing through Starlink's own separately-owned global network infrastructure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:42:27

    Anpanman argues a US-company-provided (AST) solution winning J-LEO would still be a net positive for the US government's interests as a Japan ally, versus concerns about a foreign (e.g., Chinese) constellation, though he acknowledges Elon Musk's political influence in the US government could theoretically factor into any decision.

Listener Q&A: T-Mobile STA Testing, Dilution, SpaceX Buyout, Launch Cadence, and Elon Musk's Silence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:02

    Anpanman recalls that around February 2026, AST filed with the FCC to test on T-Mobile's spectrum, which was puzzling at the time; he now thinks this makes more sense in light of the announced AT&T/Verizon JV, and speculates T-Mobile could eventually defect from Starlink toward AST.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:47:30

    Asked whether a new 500-employee plan implies further dilution, Anpanman says he doesn't believe additional dilution is planned; the company has over $3 billion of cash, Scott Wisniewski indicated at a recent meeting there are no plans for additional convertible debt, there is currently no active ATM in place (the prior one was terminated), and near-term funding focus is on commercial prepayments from MNOs. He notes the company could still raise capital opportunistically for something value-creative, e.g. a hypothetical $300 million raise if AST lost the J-LEO bid and needed funds.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:49:47

    Asked about SpaceX buyout rumors, Anpanman assigns a very low likelihood, citing US antitrust law (Sherman Act, Clayton Act), the DOJ, and the FCC's preference for supplier diversity; he says this could only change if either SpaceX or AST became financially distressed, which he doesn't foresee.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:49:47

    Responding to a listener who noted the August launch seems late relative to a 45-satellites-by-year-end target, Anpanman says AST will not hit 45 satellites by year-end; he guesses 20-25 satellites by year-end 2026 and 45 by late Q1/early Q2 2027, with the company still procuring additional SpaceX launches and other launch-provider agreements (MLAs), and watching how quickly Blue Origin returns to the pad.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:00

    Anpanman disputes a listener's suggestion that the August launch represents 'another delay,' saying he does not recall the company ever guiding to two launches in July; he expects the Q2 earnings call to land in early August, around the same time as the BB11-13 launch, and guesses another batch of ready-to-launch Bluebirds could be announced before that August launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:54:32

    Asked why Elon Musk has never commented on AST SpaceMobile, Anpanman theorizes Musk avoids the topic because Starlink's direct-to-cell effort (built by acquiring narrowband IoT provider Swarm, whose team was later let go) followed AST's, and because Musk used wording similar to AST's own marketing when announcing the T-Mobile service in August 2022 — implying he doesn't want to legitimize a competitor that got there first.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:54:32

    Anpanman notes Mario Nawfal, a formerly Musk-aligned commentator who was unfollowed by Musk, recently posted (for the first time) about AST's latest Bluebird launch, describing it as competing with Starlink's broadband ambitions.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:54:32

    Asked if Starlink's V2 direct-to-device satellites could fly on other providers' rockets, Anpanman says no — they are specifically architected for Starship, making Starlink's future direct-to-device buildout highly dependent on Starship's success.

Watch Items6

  • BlueBirds 11, 12, and 13 launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9

    First half of August 2026 (Anpanman guesses first or second week) Anpanman 00:00:27
  • AST Q2 2026 earnings call / formal launch-plan update

    Expected early August 2026, around the same time as the BB11-13 launch Anpanman 00:51:00
  • SpaceX share lockup expiration (minimum 20%, up to 30%)

    Around August 20, 2026 Anpanman 00:10:17
  • Japan J-LEO project winner decision

    Expected by end of June 2026 Anpanman 00:22:42
  • AST reaching 45 satellites in orbit

    Anpanman guesses late Q1/early Q2 2027 rather than year-end 2026 as previously discussed Anpanman 00:49:47
  • Blue Origin New Glenn's return to the launch pad

    Not yet specified; watched as a factor in AST's launch cadence Anpanman 00:49:47

Open Questions6

  • Will the J-LEO decision actually be announced by the end of June as scheduled, or could it slip?

    Anpanman 00:17:37
  • Will AST/Rakuten or Starlink/KDDI ultimately win the J-LEO subsidy contract?

    Anpanman 00:22:42
  • Will SoftBank formally join the Satellite Connect Japan joint venture, given it is reportedly allowing spectrum testing?

    Anpanman 00:17:37
  • What was the actual purpose of AST's February 2026 FCC filing requesting to test on T-Mobile's spectrum?

    Anpanman 00:37:02
  • How many additional shares have convertible-note arbitrageurs actually covered as ASTS fell from $104 to the high-$60s/$70s, and what is the resulting 'true' short interest?

    Anpanman 00:10:17
  • Will there be another batch of Bluebirds ready to ship/launch before the early-August Q2 earnings call?

    Anpanman 00:51:00
2026-06-17 40:40

Anpanman - Lunch Recap and SpaceX Success

Anpanman

Anpanman hosts a solo recap the morning after SpaceX's successful Falcon 9 launch of AST SpaceMobile's first three Block 2 composite Bluebird satellites (BlueBird 8, 9, and 10). He calls it the company's fifth successful spacecraft design and its first Block 2 'stacked' batch launch.

He walks through the engineering behind stacking satellites at 6G of force, and AST's same-day press release confirming 200 Mbps peak speeds and updated production figures: Bluebirds 11-13 in final shipment prep, 37 satellites now in production.

He closes by analyzing record-high ASTS short interest tied to SpaceX-IPO-driven pair trades, the stock's derating from $133 to $86 after recent Blue Origin New Glenn setbacks, and a run of upcoming catalysts including Japan's J-LEO decision and BB8-10 unfolding confirmation.

Key Takeaways

  • SpaceX successfully launched AST SpaceMobile's first three Block 2 composite Bluebird satellites (BlueBird 8, 9, and 10) on a Falcon 9 on the morning of the episode (June 17, 2026), which Anpanman calls the company's fifth distinct successful spacecraft design (after BlueWalker 1, BlueWalker 3, the five Block 1 Bluebirds, and the metallic FM-1/FM-2 satellites) and its first-ever multi-satellite 'stacked' Block 2 launch.
  • AST's same-day press release confirmed Block 2 satellites are optimized for 200 Mbps peak speeds, up from about 99 Mbps recently achieved on Block 1 and roughly 160 Mbps that Abel Avellan had cited for Block 2 (BlueBird 6) at the BlueBird 7 launch event; Anpanman contrasts this with current Starlink direct-to-cell service, which he says tops out around 7 Mbps per cell as narrowband texting/SOS service.
  • The press release also confirmed Bluebirds 11, 12, and 13 are in 'final preparations for shipment' (a step Anpanman reads as further along than the prior 'final testing' language), and that cumulative Bluebird production has risen to 37 satellites, up from 32.
  • Anpanman received a personal email reply from CEO Abel Avellan confirming the BlueBird 8/9/10 mission 'went perfect' and that satellites are operating nominally after orbital insertion, ahead of the detumbling and antenna-unfolding process still to come.
  • ASTS short interest hit an all-time high (previously peaking around 69 million shares in mid-May 2026, when the stock traded near $100), which Anpanman attributes largely to hedge funds running long-SpaceX/short-space-basket or long-SpaceX/short-ASTS pair trades following SpaceX's IPO, plus convertible-note arbitrageurs shorting the stock to hedge their bond positions.
  • ASTS stock fell from a high of about $133 to around $86 after BlueBird 7 was lost in an April 2026 Blue Origin New Glenn second-stage failure and a subsequent New Glenn pad explosion took the rocket offline for a projected roughly six months, derating the broader space sector along with it.
  • Near-term catalysts Anpanman flags include Japan's roughly $1 billion-plus J-LEO project decision expected by the end of June 2026, confirmation of BlueBird 8/9/10's successful antenna unfolding expected around mid-to-late July 2026, a possible FCC Special Temporary Authority grant for 900 MHz military-related testing (application filed about a week before the episode), and a BlueBird 11-13 shareholder launch event tentatively targeted for July or early August 2026.
  • Anpanman states AST SpaceMobile needs roughly 45 satellites for near-continuous commercial service in North America, versus about 20-25 satellites for intermittent beta service.

Detailed Discussion12 topics

Launch recap: BlueBird 8, 9, 10 and AST's spacecraft-design history

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:26

    SpaceX flew a 'wonderful and flawless' Falcon 9 launch overnight, deploying BlueBird 10, then 9, then 8 into orbit — the first successful batch launch of the Block 2 design, and specifically the Block 2 composite design.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:46

    Counting design generations, he frames this as the fifth distinct AST SpaceMobile spacecraft design successfully deployed to LEO: (1) BlueWalker 1, a CubeSat that tested the concept in reverse (large phased arrays on Earth communicating with a cell phone aboard the orbiting satellite); (2) BlueWalker 3, launched September 2022, the first fully-scaled prototype that validated the technology and supported military testing that opened up contracts; (3) the five Block 1 Bluebirds (8m x 8m design with a folding-arm unfolding mechanism), launched together on a Falcon 9 in September 2024; (4) the metallic Block 2 satellites FM-1 (BlueBird 6, successful) and FM-2 (BlueBird 7, lost when Blue Origin's second stage failed to ignite); and now (5) the Block 2 composite design launched in this episode.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:46

    He calls this a testament to the company's engineering, noting no other operator has, to his knowledge, built a satellite that deploys a massive phased array without needing a separate launch vehicle adapter (LVA).

Block 2 composite engineering breakthroughs

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:04:30

    The new composite satellites are significantly lighter than the metallic FM-1/FM-2 design and are engineered to withstand 6G of force in an 8-satellite stacked launch configuration; he uses the analogy that the bottom satellite in the stack effectively has to support the weight of the Statue of Liberty (without its base) while sustaining 6Gs.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:30

    The company currently can stack 3 to 4 satellites and is iterating toward stacking a full 8, which would fill a Blue Origin New Glenn fairing; for a New Glenn 9x4 configuration he guesses a 6x6 stacked arrangement.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:30

    The deployed phased array is roughly 200 meters squared in size; there is also an unadvertised tail extension carrying additional solar arrays, which he speculates may also have some phased-array functionality (unconfirmed).

Phased array vs. Starlink and competitive positioning

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:22

    AST's large phased array is what lets it communicate with unmodified, low-power phones on low-band spectrum from 26,000-27,000 km/hr orbital speeds, whereas Starlink's phased array (roughly 2.5m x 2.5m) is optimized for mid-band spectrum, requires FCC waivers to operate, and only works with newer phones carrying a specific chipset — not older phones.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:22

    He ties AST's backward compatibility with existing/older phones to AST and Rakuten being well-positioned to win Japan's J-LEO contract, and to disaster-recovery/national-security use cases where new-phone requirements are a liability; he notes EchoStar's planned spectrum deployment (sometime 2028-2029) will also require a new phone.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:26

    He argues competitors who dismissed the need for large phased arrays are now all moving toward larger arrays themselves, but says AST's existing patent portfolio (an updated patent count was included in the day's press release, number not stated) creates a 'massive moat,' and speculates the company may eventually enforce or monetize those patents once competitors' roadmaps are locked into covered technology, rather than doing so now.

200 Mbps speed benchmark

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:26

    The day's press release was, in his view, the first time the company confirmed Block 2 satellites are optimized for 200 Mbps peak speeds — versus roughly 99 Mbps recently achieved on Block 1.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:26

    He recalls that at the BlueBird 7 launch event, Abel Avellan said the then-current Block 2 satellite (BlueBird 6) was hitting 160 Mbps, which he assumes is roughly where it stands now en route to 200 Mbps through further optimization.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:26

    For comparison, he says current Starlink satellites top out around 7 Mbps per cell (narrowband texting/SOS/some pictures), while next-generation Starlink is targeting around 150 Mbps, contingent on Starship achieving commercial-cadence success.

Bluebird 11-13 and production cadence

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:03

    The press release confirmed Bluebirds 11, 12, and 13 are in 'final preparations for shipment' — language he reads as a step beyond the previously used 'final testing,' suggesting testing may already be complete.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:03

    Whether those satellites ship immediately depends on the next Falcon 9 launch date: if it's in July they'll likely ship soon, but if the next launch slips to early August the satellites may be held rather than shipped before the launch site is ready to receive them.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:13:03

    He believes the company is procuring offsite storage/processing space near Cape Canaveral (citing a job posting for a payload integration/receiving manager there) to handle logistics as launch cadence scales toward deploying 248 satellites over the next 2-3 years.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:13:03

    The press release also disclosed Bluebird production has risen to 37 satellites, up from 32 — he believes this is a cumulative production figure but says he isn't fully certain and would like company confirmation of what the 32-vs-37 figures actually represent.

Multi-launch provider strategy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:24

    With Blue Origin New Glenn offline for a projected several months, he expects AST to announce additional Falcon 9 launches and formal multi-launch agreements with ULA and Mitsubishi in the near term, with Arianespace as another possible addition and more frontier providers like Relativity Space potentially added later — all framed as his own guesses, not confirmed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:24

    He notes Relativity's Terran R (a heavy-lift rocket he estimates could carry around 6 Bluebirds) is expected to have its maiden flight sometime in Q3 or Q4 (his guess, year unstated but implied 2026).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:24

    His expected strategy: anchor launches on Falcon 9, layer on Blue Origin after further successful missions, then add ULA, Ariane, Mitsubishi, Relativity and ISRO to avoid concentrating risk in one or two providers.

Post-launch operations and unfolding timeline

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:19

    Abel Avellan confirmed via email to Anpanman that the mission was a success, that the satellites were injected into the proper orbit, and that 'it really went perfect' — Anpanman takes this as a clean bill of health.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:18:19

    The satellites now need to be detumbled (oriented correctly via magnetorquers and possibly propulsion) before the large phased arrays are unfolded sequentially; having already done this once with BlueBird 6, the team should face less risk this time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:19

    He recalls (uncertain/approximate) that BlueBird 6 launched around December 23 (2025) and the company issued a PR confirming successful deployment around February 10 (2026), roughly 49 days later; he guesses the actual unfolding happened closer to 40-45 days post-launch with a short buffer before the PR.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:19

    Applying a similar but possibly shorter timeline (accounting for three satellites instead of one), he estimates confirmation of BlueBird 8/9/10's successful deployment in roughly 35-45 days, putting it around mid-to-second-half of July 2026 — a milestone he plans to add to his catalyst tracker.

Record short interest and SpaceX-IPO-driven trading dynamics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:21:19

    Real-time short interest data shows ASTS hit an all-time peak the prior day; the previous high was around 69 million shares, set in mid-May 2026 when the stock price was much higher (he estimates near $100). The current all-time-high figure was stated as approximately '72.2 [million]' shares, though the exact number was garbled/unclear in the audio.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:21:19

    He attributes elevated short interest partly to convertible-note arbitrageurs shorting the stock to hedge the bonds' embedded conversion option, and partly to hedge funds hedging long SpaceX exposure around its IPO by shorting a basket of space comparables (AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, Planet Labs) or running a direct long-SpaceX/short-ASTS pair trade.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:21:19

    He argues many of these shorts don't understand the underlying business (e.g., that AST partners with roughly 60 mobile network operators and could eventually reach a subscriber base numbering in the billions), and expects the trade to eventually 'blow up' on them as the story de-risks, similar to prior short squeezes at $2, $20, $30, $40, and $50 per share.

Catalyst tracker

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:50

    Upcoming catalysts listed: (1) Bluebird 11, 12, 13 being announced ready to ship; (2) Japan's J-LEO project decision, worth over $1 billion potentially, expected at the end of this month (within about 2 weeks of the episode); (3) confirmation of BlueBird 8-10's successful antenna unfolding and operations; (4) an update/confirmation of the 200 Mbps performance milestone, possibly during a quarterly earnings call; (5) a possible FCC Special Temporary Authority grant for 900 MHz military-application testing, whose application was filed about a week prior, with fast turnaround expected 'given the new world at the FCC'; and (6) a T-Mobile definitive commercial agreement, which he guesses is two quarters or more away, though hints may surface sooner.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:50

    He also expects additional multi-launch agreement announcements in between these catalysts.

Audience Q&A: satellite count, EchoStar/SpaceX spectrum, and pair-trade mechanics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:50

    Asked how many satellites are needed for full North America service, he answers approximately 45 for near-continuous service, with beta/intermittent service achievable at around 20-25 satellites.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:50

    Responding to a listener (Ben Deverin) about whether SpaceX could buy EchoStar's remaining paired AWS-3 spectrum, he notes EchoStar received about 2.2% of SpaceX's outstanding stock in the existing AWS-3 transaction, and that EchoStar's sum-of-the-parts (spectrum plus Dish Network) trades at what he estimates as a 40-50% discount; he speculates SpaceX buying more EchoStar spectrum wouldn't surprise him, but this is unconfirmed guesswork.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:36:05

    Explaining hedge-fund mechanics to a listener confused by long-SpaceX/short-ASTS pair trades, he describes two hedging approaches — shorting a basket of comparable names (e.g., short AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, Planet Labs against a long SpaceX position) versus a direct pair trade (analogous to going long Apple at the iPhone launch while shorting Motorola/BlackBerry) — used by hedge funds to run a balanced, alpha-focused book rather than pure directional beta exposure.

Stock price context and setbacks

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:36:07

    Responding to a comment about the stock being flat-to-red despite bullish news, he attributes it to two pieces of bad news: BlueBird 7 failing to reach a sustainable orbit after a Blue Origin New Glenn second-stage failure, and a separate Blue Origin New Glenn 4 vehicle exploding on the launch pad.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:36:07

    With New Glenn out of commission for what he estimates as about the next 6 months, the entire space sector derated from all-time highs at the end of May (2026); ASTS itself fell from around $133 pre-mishap to about $86.

Future roadmap: Block 3/4, 'Blackbirds,' and defense

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:31

    He believes AST will produce a Block 3 (mid-band constellation) satellite by the end of this year, and a future Block 4 built around C-band (3.5 GHz) spectrum in partnership with AT&T and Verizon and 'soon' T-Mobile, eventually reaching gigabit-level speeds comparable to fiber — framed as his own expectation, not confirmed guidance.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:31

    He refers informally to a government-only satellite constellation as 'Blackbirds' (a name he isn't sure the company will officially use), suggesting FM-1 and FM-2 were effectively early Blackbirds, with more of that constellation coming in the following months.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:31

    He expects additional defense-contract news soon, related to Golden Dome and other communications, radar, or sensing applications.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:41:31

    He notes the company will hold a shareholder event tied to the BlueBird 11-13 launch and asks listeners to keep their July/early-August calendars flexible; he plans to attend in person.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:41:31

    He gives a shoutout to fellow host Kook, who attended the launch viewing at a courtyard in Titusville with 'Tanner and a few other folks,' did push-ups for good luck, and paid respects at the nearby resting place of a community member referred to as Steve Larison.

Watch Items8

  • Bluebird 11, 12, and 13 announced ready to ship / actual shipment

    Relatively soon; depends on next Falcon 9 launch date (July vs. early August) Anpanman 00:13:03
  • Japan J-LEO project decision (potential $1B+ project)

    End of the month (within ~2 weeks of the episode) Anpanman 00:23:50
  • Confirmation of BlueBird 8, 9, 10 successful antenna unfolding and operations

    Estimated ~35-45 days post-launch, mid-to-second-half of July 2026 Anpanman 00:18:19
  • 200 Mbps peak speed milestone achievement/update

    Possibly at an upcoming quarterly earnings call Anpanman 00:23:50
  • FCC Special Temporary Authority grant for 900 MHz military-application testing

    Application filed about a week before the episode; fast turnaround expected Anpanman 00:23:50
  • T-Mobile definitive commercial agreement

    Guessed at two quarters out or more Anpanman 00:23:50
  • Additional multi-launch agreements (ULA, Mitsubishi, Arianespace, Relativity Terran R maiden flight)

    Near term; Terran R maiden flight guessed for Q3 or Q4 Anpanman 00:15:24
  • Shareholder event tied to the Bluebird 11-13 launch

    July or early August 2026 (calendar to be confirmed) Anpanman 00:41:31

Open Questions4

  • What exactly do the '32 vs. 37' Bluebird production figures in the press release represent (cumulative production count or another metric)?

    Anpanman 00:13:03
  • Whether and how AST SpaceMobile intends to enforce or monetize its patent portfolio against competitors.

    Anpanman 00:11:26
  • Whether the tail extension on Bluebird satellites (which carries solar arrays) also has phased-array antenna functionality.

    Anpanman 00:04:30
  • Whether Bluebirds 11-13 will ship as soon as they're ready or be held in offsite storage pending the next launch window.

    Anpanman 00:13:03
2026-06-17 58:15

Anpanman - Historic Deployment: Bluebirds 8-10 Reach Orbit

Anpanman

Anpanman hosted a live, real-time reaction space during the June 17, 2026 launch and orbital deployment of AST SpaceMobile's Bluebird 8, 9, and 10 satellites. It was the first stacked, multi-satellite Block 2 Falcon 9 launch.

He walked listeners through the structural engineering, deployment mechanics, and orbital insertion as they happened. All three satellites separated successfully, which Anpanman frames as decisively refuting industry critics who claimed stacking large satellites in a single fairing was impossible.

Beyond the launch itself, he covers manufacturing ramp status and a rumored Japan 'JLEO' program tell. He also predicts a T-Mobile commercial deal (likely an MOU and/or definitive agreement by Q4 2026) stemming from the new AT&T-Verizon satellite strategy joint venture.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman hosted a live real-time reaction space during the successful launch and deployment of AST SpaceMobile's Bluebird 8, 9, and 10 satellites (Block 2 design) on a SpaceX Falcon 9 from Cape Canaveral on June 17, 2026.
  • All three satellites separated successfully from the stacked Falcon 9 configuration — Bluebird 10 deployed first (opposite the order shown on AST's official mission timeline, which listed Bluebird 8 first), followed by Bluebird 9, with SpaceX confirming all payloads separated; this validated AST's ability to stack multiple large satellites in one fairing after critics claimed it wasn't feasible.
  • The composite Block 2 Bluebird satellites are engineered to withstand roughly 6 G's of force during launch, and AST's own promotional graphics showed the 8-satellite stacked configuration could theoretically support the weight of a full passenger airplane or the Statue of Liberty (without its base).
  • Anpanman predicts AST SpaceMobile will reach an MOU and/or definitive commercial agreement with T-Mobile before the end of 2026, likely in Q4, following the recently announced AT&T-Verizon satellite-strategy joint venture that also invited T-Mobile to participate; he expects Starlink to remain as a non-exclusive secondary option for T-Mobile customers rather than being dropped entirely.
  • Anpanman named two industry commentators, 'Dim Spacebar' and 'Stuart Taylor,' as having publicly and repeatedly claimed AST's satellites would not fit in a Falcon 9 fairing and that SpaceX would not permit satellite stacking; both claims were disproven by this launch.
  • AST SpaceMobile is currently producing about 10 'microns' (the phased-array/solar-panel payload) per month but only 'just under 6' composite bus structures per month, per Anpanman's understanding; the company's near-term target is 6 satellites/month around Q3 2026, with an eventual goal of 10-12 satellites/month once a planned dedicated government-focused production line ('government shell') comes online.
  • The next Bluebird batch launch (Bluebirds 11, 12, and 13) is expected around late July or early August 2026, based on Anpanman's estimated roughly 3-week integration timeline from satellite shipment to launch.
  • The launch-day tradition of drinking full-sugar Dr Pepper (not diet) honors the late Space Mob community member Steve Larrison, an early and influential AST SpaceMobile community researcher whose resting site is located near the Titusville courtyard where community members gather to watch launches.
  • AST SpaceMobile recently hired an APAC program manager based in Japan with relevant manufacturing experience, which Anpanman flags as a possible 'tell' connected to the rumored Japan 'JLEO' satellite program, though he stresses the connection is speculative and unconfirmed.
  • Every Bluebird satellite, including 8, 9, and 10, has dual-use capability and can support government/military applications even before the constellation reaches the roughly 25 satellites needed to begin commercial beta service.

Detailed Discussion12 topics

Launch Overview and Structural Engineering

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:07

    Falcon 9 launched successfully carrying three stacked Block 2 'composite' Bluebird satellites (8, 9, 10); everything looked nominal early in the mission.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:01:07

    Per the AST SpaceMobile live broadcast introduction video, the composite Bluebirds are engineered to withstand approximately 6 G's of force during launch.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:01:07

    A company graphic showed that the stacked configuration (with 8 Bluebirds stacked) could support the weight of an entire passenger airplane, or the Statue of Liberty without its base, illustrating the strength of the carbon-fiber/composite structures.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:01:07

    Reddit commenters and industry consultants had claimed stacking satellites was impossible, or that SpaceX would not allow it; the company's broadcast explained that rocket providers rigorously test structural rigidity before allowing any satellite configuration, since a failure could risk the rocket itself.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:07

    Anpanman referenced a video by Mark Rober/CrunchLabs (which partnered to put an Earth-observation satellite into space) as a useful educational explainer of the launch forces satellites must survive.

Deployment Timeline and Mechanics

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:06:45

    Per the mission timeline: second-stage engine restart at 46 minutes (a very short ~6-second burn), Bluebird 8 deployment listed at approximately 54 minutes, Bluebird 9 at approximately 60 minutes, and Bluebird 10 at approximately 1 hour 5 minutes.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:06:45

    The three stacked Bluebirds do not separate simultaneously — each releases via a clamp/spring mechanism sequentially, with roughly 5 minutes between each release (Bluebird 8 releases from Bluebird 9, which then releases from Bluebird 10, which finally releases from the Falcon 9 second stage).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:39:15

    Live coverage confirmed Bluebird 10 deployed first — not Bluebird 8 as the official mission-timeline graphic had shown — followed later by Bluebird 9's successful separation (with partial visual confirmation), and finally SpaceX confirmed 'all payloads successfully separated.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:57

    Successful satellite separation itself demonstrates the composite structure held up under launch loads, which is notable given this is a new spacecraft design.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:28

    Confirmation that satellites are under control and nominal (powered up, flying) typically comes not long after release, but full deployment/unfolding and successful operations confirmation could take weeks to months; Anpanman guessed operational confirmation would arrive in a few weeks.

Orbital Insertion Details

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:23:28

    The Falcon 9 second stage placed the payload into an elliptical orbit with a low point around 200 km altitude, then performed a short circularization burn once it reached roughly 535 km, resulting in a circular orbit around 536 km at a speed of approximately 26,278 km/h (units as stated, though garbled in the recording).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:39:15

    By the end of the broadcast, the stated orbital altitude was 546 km.

SpaceMob Community and Steve Larrison Tribute

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:07

    A large international SpaceMob community was awake and active in the company's YouTube chat, including a notably large contingent of Korean shareholders; a group of roughly 8-10 SpaceMob members gathered at a rooftop bar in the Titusville courtyard in Cape Canaveral to watch the launch, including Kook.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:11:59

    The full-sugar (not diet) Dr Pepper launch-day tradition honors Steve Larrison, an early, well-regarded Space Mob community member and researcher who helped many people in the community (including Anpanman) and championed looking at AI/machine learning as early as roughly 2023; his favorite drink was Dr Pepper.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:11:59

    Community members at Titusville visited Steve Larrison's resting site, located near the courtyard bar, before the launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:06:45

    Anpanman recalled BlueWalker 3's launch (which he described as approximately 4 years earlier, i.e. around September 2022) as a company-defining event — he and Kook were both there in person with their children, and a mission failure at that stage would likely have been fatal to the company's ability to continue.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:59

    AST SpaceMobile's stock was reported up 6.4% during the overnight/launch trading session, with community members noting they were buying shares overnight.

JLEO Program and Japan Hiring

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:59

    A rumored 'JLEO' program has recently come up in the community; one possible 'tell' is that AST SpaceMobile recently hired an APAC program manager based in Japan with significant manufacturing experience at a large Japanese company, which Anpanman suggests could be linked to timing around a JLEO-related decision, though he cautions this connection is unconfirmed speculation.

Manufacturing Ramp

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:12

    Anpanman's understanding is the company can currently manufacture around 10 satellites' worth of 'microns' (the phased-array/solar-panel payload) per month, but the composite 'donut' structures housing the phased array plus the control bus are produced at 'just under 6' per month (roughly 4-5).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:12

    Reaching 6 satellites/month is a company goal, but is less urgent right now given Blue Origin's New Glenn is offline after the Bluebird 7 loss, reducing available launch capacity; Anpanman guesses the 6/month rate is reached sometime in Q3 2026, over the next month or two.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:21:39

    Longer-term, once additional launch providers come online, Anpanman expects the company to scale toward roughly 10-12 satellites per month at full capacity, factoring in a planned dedicated 'government shell' production line in addition to low-band and mid-band Block 2 Bluebirds.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:19:12

    Anpanman noted the company recently disclosed at its annual meeting (this past week, relative to the June 17, 2026 episode) that the 'first one or two' Block 2 Bluebirds would launch by the end of the year — a statement Anpanman relayed as-is, though it appears to conflict with Block 2 satellites (Bluebird 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) already having launched by this point.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:12

    There is a possibility of a PR disclosing that 'batch 2' satellites are finished/ready but awaiting shipment, since satellites can be ready before the next Falcon 9 slot; the company reportedly hired or was looking to hire a processing manager at Cape Canaveral and may rent or build an integration/storage facility there because AST may ship more Bluebirds than can be immediately launched.

Deployment Confirmation

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:37:57

    Live coverage confirmed Bluebird 10 successfully deployed first.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:37:57

    Bluebird 9 successfully separated shortly after, with a partial live visual shown of the deployment.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:43:09

    SpaceX confirmed on the broadcast that 'all payloads successfully separated,' completing the deployment of Bluebirds 8, 9, and 10; the visual shown was of the payload adapter cone that had carried the three stacked satellites, not the satellites themselves separating.

Satellite Design History

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:37:57

    Bluebirds 8, 9, and 10 represent AST SpaceMobile's fifth satellite design overall: BlueWalker 1 (a CubeSat) was the first, BlueWalker 3 (an 8m-by-8m centered control bus) the second, the five Block 1 Bluebirds (also 8m-by-8m with next-gen phased array/microns) the third, Bluebird 6 and 7 the fourth design, and the current composite Block 2 Bluebirds (8, 9, 10) the fifth design.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:43:09

    Anpanman corrected a listener's characterization that this was AST's 'first commercial batch mission' — the true first batch launch was the five Block 1 Bluebirds launched together in 2024 (described as '4 on the bottom and 1 on top').

T-Mobile Deal Outlook and AT&T-Verizon JV

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:43:09

    Anpanman predicts AST SpaceMobile will reach a deal with T-Mobile — an MOU and/or definitive agreement — before the end of 2026, most likely in Q4; he called this 'pretty much fait accompli.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:43:09

    AT&T and Verizon invited T-Mobile to join their new joint venture focused on pooling spectrum and sharing infrastructure for direct-to-cell satellite connectivity, with AT&T 'quarterbacking' the effort; the JV will be positioned to regulators as important for US broadband connectivity and national security.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:43:09

    Per Anpanman's conversations with the company, AST's existing exclusivity is with AT&T and Verizon, and the new AT&T/Verizon joint venture is what opens the door for T-Mobile to work with AST SpaceMobile.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:43:09

    Anpanman does not expect a visible, fanfare 'breakup' between T-Mobile and Starlink; instead he expects Starlink to remain available as a non-exclusive add-on for T-Mobile customers to appease regulators, while AST SpaceMobile becomes T-Mobile's default full-broadband satellite option.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:50:31

    T-Mobile's exclusivity arrangement with Starlink ends in June or July 2026; Anpanman expects a possible T-Mobile MOU with AST as soon as this month or next, but not a definitive agreement immediately, since the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile JV itself must first become definitive and clear regulatory review before a commercial deal with AST for T-Mobile would follow, pushing definitive terms potentially to Q4 or later.

Next Launch Timing and Batch Shipment

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:15

    Anpanman guesses the next Bluebird batch launch will occur in late July or early August 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:15

    Integration time from satellite shipment to launch is roughly 3 weeks, which Anpanman describes as fast because the satellites ('tuna cans') are self-contained and stack directly on each other atop the Falcon 9, without needing a custom launch-vehicle adapter structure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:50:31

    Bluebirds 11, 12, and 13 are expected to be ready for shipment fairly soon, with shipment timed roughly 3 weeks ahead of the next Falcon 9 launch slot, likely putting shipment/launch around late July or early August 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:43:09

    The next launch is expected to be a company-sponsored/hosted event; Anpanman expects launch parties to become less frequent (every 2-3 batches rather than every batch) as launch cadence increases.

Debunking Industry Skeptics

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:50:31

    Anpanman named an independent industry consultant referred to as 'Dim Spacebar' who had claimed, starting around Mobile World Congress, that AST's satellites would not fit inside a standard Falcon 9 fairing; this claim was proven false by the successful launch.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:50:31

    Anpanman named a second independent consultant, Stuart Taylor, who claimed SpaceX would not allow AST's satellites to be stacked in a fairing; this was also proven false, as the satellites were successfully stacked and launched.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:50:31

    Anpanman noted that some hedge funds, via expert-network calls, had taken these skeptics' claims seriously enough to ask whether the satellites would even fit in a Falcon 9.

Dual-Use Government/Military Capability

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:23:28

    Every Bluebird satellite, including 8, 9, and 10, has the capability to be used for government or military purposes even while the constellation is still building toward the roughly 25 satellites needed to start commercial beta service.

Watch Items6

  • T-Mobile MOU and/or definitive commercial agreement with AST SpaceMobile

    Possible MOU within a month or two; definitive agreement likely Q4 2026, potentially later Anpanman 00:50:31
  • Next Bluebird batch launch (Bluebirds 11, 12, 13)

    Late July or early August 2026 (guess) Anpanman 00:50:31
  • Manufacturing rate reaching 6 satellites/month

    Sometime in Q3 2026, over the next month or two (guess) Anpanman 00:19:12
  • Possible PR confirming 'batch 2' satellites finished and awaiting shipment

    Uncertain, possibly imminent Anpanman 00:19:12
  • T-Mobile/Starlink exclusivity expiration

    June or July 2026 Anpanman 00:50:31
  • Confirmation from AST that Bluebirds 8, 9, and 10 are communicating and operating nominally

    Expected within a few hours of the broadcast Anpanman 00:43:09

Open Questions3

  • Why did the actual live deployment order (Bluebird 10 first, then Bluebird 9) differ from AST's official mission-timeline graphic, which listed Bluebird 8 deploying first?

    Anpanman 00:19:12
  • Does AST SpaceMobile's recent hiring of a Japan-based APAC program manager actually connect to a real upcoming 'JLEO' program decision, or is the timing coincidental?

    Anpanman 00:11:59
  • Will AST SpaceMobile issue a shipment-readiness press release for 'batch 2' in the near term, and when will the satellites actually ship given the timing of the next Falcon 9 slot?

    Anpanman 00:19:12
2026-06-16 44:04

Anpanman - Why Starlink’s Direct to Device Strategy is Delusional

Anpanman

Anpanman goes solo to cover the SpaceX IPO, arguing it could become the biggest meme stock ever due to its tiny public float. He also covers how liquidity draining from the space sector into SpaceX has hit AST SpaceMobile's price and pushed short interest back near all-time highs.

He rebuts ARK Invest's thesis that Starlink will replace mobile carriers outright, calling it delusional and arguing it actually validates AST's MNO-partnership, low-band-spectrum model.

He then covers AST's imminent BlueBird 8/9/10 launch and a new Brazilian regulatory win (free 10x10 MHz of S-band spectrum). He closes with updates on T1 Energy (Section 232 tariff upside, Fuzzy Panda seen as a non-factor institutionally) and Bridger Aerospace heading into fire season.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman argues SpaceX's IPO could become the biggest meme stock ever because less than 5% of pro forma shares outstanding were sold to the public, creating a very small tradable float relative to its roughly $3 trillion-plus valuation, combined with SpaceX's broad brand recognition and exposure to space, AI, and data-center themes.
  • Anpanman says SpaceX's IPO and subsequent trading are draining liquidity from the broader space sector, including AST SpaceMobile, and that AST's real-time short interest has climbed back near its all-time high of roughly 68.4 million shares (versus a recent all-time high near 69 million shares).
  • Anpanman calls ARK Invest's thesis that Starlink will replace mobile network operators outright 'delusional,' arguing a standalone Starlink consumer service would be friction-heavy (separate eSIM/subscription, no indoor or tunnel coverage, dropped calls at handover) because AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile won't grant Starlink an MVNO deal, and that this dynamic actually increases AST SpaceMobile's value since only AST currently has a satellite architecture built around low-band spectrum leased from MNOs.
  • AST SpaceMobile's BlueBird 8, 9, and 10 satellites were scheduled to launch the next morning in a 2:39-4:15 AM ET window aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9, marking AST's first launch in a stacked multi-satellite configuration; BlueBird 11, 12, and 13 are expected to ship soon after, with that next launch guessed for late July or early August.
  • Brazil's telecom regulator Anatel approved AST SpaceMobile for commercial service and allocated a 10 MHz by 10 MHz block of S-band spectrum at no cost, which Anpanman frames as a blueprint for AST securing free spectrum in other countries through local MNO partnerships.
  • Anpanman predicts (as a guess) that T-Mobile will eventually sign a definitive commercial agreement with AST SpaceMobile within roughly 3-6 months, after the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture goes definitive and clears regulatory review, which he says would give AST relationships with all three major US carriers and be a major re-rating catalyst the market hasn't priced in.
  • On T1 Energy, Anpanman relayed a sell-side analyst's view that institutional investors treat the Fuzzy Panda short report as a non-factor and are focused on execution, and that upcoming Section 232 solar tariffs (potentially lifting US module prices from about 28 cents/watt to 38-40 cents/watt) could push G2 Austin facility EBITDA well above $1 billion if fully ramped, a scenario the analyst said could triple the stock over time.
  • On Bridger Aerospace, Anpanman says he remains bullish and continues adding to his position heading into fire season, while the company has yet to decide whether to lease two idle Spanish scooper aircraft in Europe or bring them back to the US.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

SpaceX IPO and meme-stock potential

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman says he participated in the SpaceX IPO and flipped his shares at $165, then reconsidered as the price kept rising overnight, and now thinks SpaceX could be 'the greatest meme stock of all time' because it touches multiple sectors people care about (space, AI, data centers) and has universal brand recognition.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    He estimates less than 5% of pro forma shares outstanding were sold to the public in the IPO, creating a very small float; he works through valuation figures on air (mentioning $75 billion, then a green-shoe exercise bringing it to roughly $86.3 billion at 15% for the green shoe), though he stumbles through the exact math live and the figures should be read as approximate/uncertain as stated.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:03:00

    He notes that for a company valued around $3 trillion (as of recording), the tradable float is only about 638 million shares, meaning the stock can be pushed around significantly by trading flows until the first lockup expires, which he guesses is sometime in August or September.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:02:00

    He describes SpaceX's broader business mix as an investment vehicle: dominant positions in launch and communications, a 'call option' on AI data centers, and xAI, which he says has pivoted to leasing its large compute buildout to Anthropic and Google to show revenue growth (margins unclear to him), and which acquired Cursor (programming tools) for $60 billion to build out AI coding functionality.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:02:30

    He compares X (Twitter) within the SpaceX/xAI ecosystem to Reddit, as a platform generating user content that can be used to train AI models.

Space sector liquidity and bifurcation

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:05:35

    Anpanman says liquidity has been draining out of the space sector (though not out of neocloud names like IREN and NBIS that SpaceX also competes with) as SpaceX absorbs attention and capital ahead of and after its IPO.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:06:30

    He agrees with a recent comment from Rocket Lab CEO Peter Beck that the space sector will bifurcate into higher-quality names (which he identifies as Rocket Lab in launch/space systems, AST SpaceMobile in communications, and Planet Labs in Earth observation, plus other names like Voyager) versus lower-quality/speculative trading vehicles such as Virgin Galactic and Sidus Space.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:30

    He says AST's real-time short interest has jumped over the last few days, nearing its all-time high of roughly 68.4 million shares (versus an all-time high of about 69 million shares reached a few weeks earlier), which he attributes partly to hedge funds running a long-SpaceX/short-space-basket momentum trade that he expects to unwind once SpaceX pulls back or new space investors look for other pure-play names.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:00

    He relays a point Kook made over the weekend comparing the space trade to the AI trade: just as Nvidia was the obvious pure-play AI name before capital rotated into AMD, energy/gas-turbine component makers, and optical names, he expects capital to rotate from SpaceX into pure-play space names like AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, and Planet over the summer.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:38:30

    He notes the space sector's rally into the SpaceX IPO peaked around the end of May, and that Blue Origin's New Glenn having a mishap on the launch pad put an early damper on sentiment before the IPO itself, causing the sector pullback to arrive earlier than expected; he separately references AST's own setback from BlueBird 7 not being inserted into orbit as a distinct headwind.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:09:00

    He suggests that if Blue Origin gets its launch pad rebuilt and completes a few commercial launches, Jeff Bezos should take Blue Origin public given SpaceX's valuation, which he says would be a watershed moment creating a genuinely investable public space sector.

AST SpaceMobile launch readiness (BlueBird 8, 9, 10)

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:09:55

    BlueBird 8, 9, and 10 were scheduled to launch the next morning at 2:39 AM (launch window extending to about 4:15 AM) aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 from Cape Canaveral; Anpanman says weather could push the launch back a day or two but he doesn't expect delays.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:30

    This is AST's first launch in a 'stacked' multi-satellite configuration, which he notes some legacy consultants previously doubted was possible in a Falcon 9; he describes a spring-based release mechanism separating satellites roughly 5 minutes apart during ascent to achieve proper orbital spacing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:00

    He expects a shipment announcement for the next batch (BlueBird 11, 12, 13) soon, noting the company has recently achieved about a 3-week turnaround between shipping satellites and having them integrated into a launch fairing; he guesses that next launch happens in late July or early August.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:43:20

    Anpanman states that after this launch, the constellation count changes ('by getting these 3 satellites up, we have 6... increase it by 50%... got another 3, so we're basically double the constellation in the next 2 months') — the specific figures are somewhat garbled/inconsistent as stated and should be treated as uncertain.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:00

    He expects a handful of multi-launch agreements (MLAs) to be announced in the next few months, adding specificity that talks with Ariane and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) are progressing and that Relativity is likely also in the running.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:40

    He speculates that if AST wins the roughly $1 billion Japanese LEO (JLEO) project, he 'wouldn't be surprised' if AST buys launches from Mitsubishi Heavy as part of that package deal.

Starlink vs. AST SpaceMobile architecture and the low-band spectrum advantage

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:13:55

    Anpanman characterizes an ARK Invest thesis (discussed 'the other day') that Starlink/SpaceX will replace mobile network operators as 'pretty crazy grand vision, delusional,' but says that even if Starlink pursued this, it would only increase AST SpaceMobile's value.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:30

    Under ARK's scenario, a consumer would buy a separate Starlink eSIM as their primary network with an MNO (AT&T, Verizon, or T-Mobile) as fallback; Anpanman argues this would be friction-heavy and non-seamless (dropped calls/data at handover, no indoor coverage) unless Starlink secured an MVNO deal with a major carrier, which he says AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile do not want to grant.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:16:30

    He identifies AST SpaceMobile's key differentiator as delivering service via low-band spectrum leased from MNO partners, which provides strong propagation/coverage in tunnels, forests, and buildings without Wi-Fi — coverage he says a standalone Starlink service would lack.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:30

    He notes Starlink's second-generation satellites use a 5m x 5m phased array serving mid-band/S-band spectrum, and that serving low-band would require a much larger array (roughly 10x10m or 15x15m, comparable to AST's Block 2 satellites) — technically possible for Starlink to build, but he says there isn't much available low-band spectrum globally since most is already locked up with carriers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:25

    He discusses spectrum holder Grain Management seeking FCC approval to light up spectrum for direct-to-device use, saying the highest-value user of that spectrum would be AST SpaceMobile, but that if Starlink instead bought it, that would effectively be an admission Starlink is entering the mobile wireless business and would push all MNOs to fully align with AST SpaceMobile.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:25:50

    He corrects an earlier statement mid-episode (per a listener correction): Lynk Global is testing with a spectrum holder referred to as 'ATEX,' not Grain Management; Grain's spectrum remains available/unclaimed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:00

    He argues only AST SpaceMobile currently has a constellation capable of deploying low-band spectrum for direct-to-device service, which excludes Starlink (mid-band/S-band only) and any newer entrants, based on a requirement in a recent FCC filing calling for a direct-to-device provider that can deploy spectrum in the near term.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:00

    Anpanman predicts (as a guess) that T-Mobile will sign a definitive commercial agreement with AST SpaceMobile, likely in a 3-6 month timeframe, but that AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile likely need to finalize their joint venture and clear regulatory review first, which could delay a T-Mobile/AST definitive deal even though an interim MOU to explore working together is more plausible near-term.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:30

    He argues that if AST locks up commercial agreements with all three major US carriers (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile), that would be 'game over' / game-changing for AST's value, and speculates that revenue-share economics with carriers could shift from roughly 50/50 today toward something like 40/60 over time (explicitly framed as a guess), though AST's existing AT&T and Verizon agreements are locked for the next 3-4 years and unlikely to be renegotiated near-term.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:21:30

    He observes that satellite-disruption risk to carriers has gone from essentially unmentioned on earnings calls 2-3 years ago to occupying roughly 20% of the conversation on recent carrier earnings calls and investor conferences, citing (with some uncertainty, 'was it Oppenheimer') an analyst downgrade of AT&T tied to competitive concerns from Starlink, and noting all three major carriers' market caps have come down on this concern.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:00

    He says the Varda Space CEO (attribution stated with some uncertainty) commented that Starlink would capture the entire direct-to-device market and compete with MNOs, but had no view on AST SpaceMobile when asked, which Anpanman cites as evidence the market doesn't yet understand this space.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:23:45

    He notes SpaceX has pointed to a total addressable market over $1 trillion (including fixed wireless), with direct-to-device specifically viewed by SpaceX as a $750 billion opportunity.

Brazilian regulatory approval

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:22:40

    Brazilian telecom regulator Anatel approved AST SpaceMobile for commercial service in Brazil and allocated a 10 MHz by 10 MHz block of S-band spectrum to the company at no cost, contingent on adhering to the country's requirements.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:20

    Anpanman frames this as a template for how AST can secure streamlined regulatory review and free spectrum allocations in other countries by partnering with local MNOs, calling the free spectrum a 'massive windfall' that the market has not yet priced in.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:26:45

    He separately mentions a filing from about a week earlier in which AST is testing 900 MHz spectrum for military applications with the US Space Development Agency (SDA), and expects an FCC grant related to that SDA work in the near future given its importance for radar sensing and communications.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:26:14

    He mentions a roughly $1 billion Japanese LEO (JLEO) project at a decision point, with Starlink and KDDI as the two front-runners alongside AST SpaceMobile (partnered with Rakuten); he says a decision could come toward the end of the month, based on 'SpaceMob due diligence' and community posts rather than official confirmation.

T1 Energy and solar tariff upside

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:28:20

    Anpanman relays a conversation with a sell-side research analyst covering T1 Energy, who said institutional investors view the Fuzzy Panda short report as a 'non-factor' and are focused instead on execution and the company's opportunity.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:29:15

    He says the analyst had done diligence after the Trina Solar transaction (announced in November, closed in December) and found DC regulators comfortable with it after the deal passed a CFIUS review — a review he describes as involving all major national-security regulators including the Office of the President, CIA, and FBI.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:29:45

    He notes the company must maintain FEOC (foreign entity of concern) compliance, which it met for 2025 and is working through for 2026 as an ongoing process.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:00

    He discusses Section 232 solar tariffs potentially taking effect as early as the end of the current month, which could raise the US spot solar module price from about 28 cents/watt to roughly 38-40 cents/watt (about a 40% increase); if T1's G2 Austin fab were fully ramped alongside its Dallas solar module plant, he says EBITDA could go 'well north of a billion dollars' at that pricing, though this remains speculative since the final tariff structure isn't yet known.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:30

    He and the analyst push back on the concern that higher module pricing would hurt demand, arguing solar panels are a small share of a data center's overall bill of materials, so a 40% price increase likely wouldn't meaningfully dent demand.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:32:30

    The analyst's view (which Anpanman says matches his own) is that if T1 Energy executes this year and gets credit for both phase 1 and phase 2 of G2 Austin, the stock could triple from current levels.

Bridger Aerospace fire season update

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:15

    With fire season in full swing, Anpanman says he plans to do an X Space with Ben Deverin (couldn't schedule it the prior day) and believes Bridger's financial performance will come in ahead of where the Street currently expects.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:34:00

    He notes the market is awaiting a decision on whether Bridger will lease its two available Spanish scooper aircraft in Europe or bring them back to the US; the decision has been delayed, but he's heard rumblings of potential contract work that could involve those two scoopers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:35:00

    He says he continues to add to his Bridger position, viewing it as significantly undervalued by the market despite limited institutional interest currently.

Q&A: SpaceX liquidity drain and space sector price action

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:37:05

    Responding to a listener question, Anpanman confirms liquidity is being drained from the space sector by SpaceX, attributing it partly to 'fast money' investors who bought into the sector expecting a ramp and are now exiting, and partly to some investors shorting the space basket to hedge long SpaceX positions.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:38:00

    Asked whether a SpaceX pullback could take the whole space sector down with it ('double whammy'), Anpanman says that's a real risk, but notes the sector has already given back much of its gains since the end of May.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:40:00

    He walks through year-to-date price levels from memory: BlackSky started the year around $18, peaked near $53-55 at the end of May, and was at $29 as of the episode; Rocket Lab started the year at $70, peaked around $150 at the end of May, and was around $104-105; AST SpaceMobile started the year at $72, peaked at $104-105 after the BlueBird 7 launch in April, then peaked again at $135 at the end of May during the broader sector rally, and was at $83 as of the episode.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:35

    He attributes the run to end-of-May highs to a 'rising tide' of sentiment ahead of the SpaceX IPO, with the pullback arriving earlier than expected due to the Blue Origin New Glenn pad mishap rather than waiting for post-IPO developments.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:42:00

    He expects the current downtrend to reverse as the upcoming BlueBird 8/9/10 launch and other catalysts land, mentions expecting 'big news around defense awards soon' without a specific date, and reiterates that the market has yet to understand what the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture means for AST if it results in T-Mobile opening its network to AST SpaceMobile — which he calls the biggest unpriced catalyst.

Watch Items9

  • BlueBird 8, 9, and 10 launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 (AST's first stacked-configuration launch)

    Next morning, launch window 2:39 AM - 4:15 AM ET (the day after this June 16, 2026 episode) Anpanman 00:09:55
  • BlueBird 11, 12, and 13 shipment and next launch

    Shipment expected soon; next launch guessed for late July or early August Anpanman 00:45:00
  • Japan JLEO (~$1 billion) contract decision between AST/Rakuten, Starlink, and KDDI

    Possibly toward the end of the current month Anpanman 00:26:14
  • FCC grant related to AST's 900 MHz SDA military-spectrum testing filing

    Expected in the near future Anpanman 00:26:45
  • Additional multi-launch agreements (with ULA, and progress with Ariane, Mitsubishi Heavy, possibly Relativity)

    Expected in the next few months Anpanman 00:26:00
  • T-Mobile definitive commercial agreement with AST SpaceMobile

    Guessed at roughly 3-6 months out, following the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile JV going definitive and clearing regulatory review Anpanman 00:20:00
  • Defense-related contract award news for AST SpaceMobile

    Expected soon, no specific date given Anpanman 00:39:00
  • Section 232 solar tariff decision affecting T1 Energy module pricing

    Potentially effective as early as the end of the current month Anpanman 00:30:00
  • Bridger Aerospace decision on deploying its two Spanish scooper aircraft (Europe lease vs. US return)

    Pending, previously delayed Anpanman 00:34:00

Open Questions5

  • Will Starlink attempt to acquire available low-band spectrum (e.g., from Grain Management) to build a bigger phased array and compete more directly on coverage, and if so, would that push all MNOs further toward exclusively partnering with AST SpaceMobile?

    Anpanman 00:18:25
  • Which of AST/Rakuten, Starlink, or KDDI will win the roughly $1 billion Japanese LEO (JLEO) project?

    Anpanman 00:26:14
  • What form will Section 232 solar tariffs ultimately take, and will higher module pricing meaningfully affect solar demand for data-center buildouts?

    Anpanman 00:30:00
  • Will Bridger Aerospace lease its two idle Spanish scooper aircraft in Europe or bring them back to the US, and is there specific contract work driving the delay?

    Anpanman 00:34:00
  • Will a pullback in SpaceX's stock drag the broader space sector (including AST SpaceMobile) down with it?

    Anpanman 00:38:00
2026-06-15 48:46

Kook's Weekly - The SpaceX IPO Global Market Realignment

Kook

Kook delivers a solo 'Kook's Weekly' analysis arguing the SpaceX IPO is a net positive for AST SpaceMobile.

SpaceX's public debut and its CFO's plan to roll out Starlink Mobile against MNOs will, he argues, force telecom carriers into a defensive 'bear hug' of ASTS while flooding new institutional attention onto the whole direct-to-device sector.

He walks through Batch 1's stacked-satellite readiness in the Falcon 9 fairing ahead of a Wednesday 2:39 AM launch, and refutes prior bear claims that stacking was impossible. He also surveys AST's product roadmap, government/defense pipeline, prospective AI-data-center-in-space opportunity, European JV, and the broader launch-vehicle market.

His headline conclusion is that AST has passed through 'production hell' and is entering a nonlinear, operationally-cadenced growth phase, though near-term risk centers on launch vehicle availability and the stock's recent sharp pullback tied to capital rotating into the newly public SpaceX.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook argues SpaceX's IPO (trading around $168 overnight, implying roughly a $2 trillion valuation) makes SpaceX an 'inescapable attention machine' that will drive new investors researching direct-to-cell competition to discover AST SpaceMobile.
  • SpaceX CFO Brett Johnson, on the company's first day as a public company, laid out plans to roll out Starlink Mobile globally to compete with mobile network operators (MNOs) over the next two years, citing a $1.6 trillion/year total addressable market; Kook argues the MNOs' response will be a defensive 'bear hug' of AST SpaceMobile.
  • AST's Batch 1 satellites (BlueBirds 8-10) are stacked inside the Falcon 9 fairing using two redundant actuators (stated failure probability of 1 in 4 million), refuting prior bear claims from accounts like 'Free Speech' and analyst Tim Ferrara that satellite stacking (rather than a dispenser) was contractually or technically impossible on Falcon 9; launch is targeted for 2:39 AM on Wednesday, a roughly one-hour mission.
  • BlueBirds 8, 9 and 10 together are said to provide array capacity equivalent to 11 Block 1 satellites due to a more efficient stacked stowing configuration versus the earlier dispenser-based design.
  • Notes relayed from AST's annual shareholder meeting indicate mid-band BlueBirds could launch by the end of the year (expected to be manufactured after Bluebird 45, with production currently around Bluebird 32), ASIC-equipped satellites are guided to reach 200 Mbps peak speed (2x current satellites), and the company reaffirmed it is fully funded to build 100 Bluebirds.
  • Kook frames AST's large satellite arrays as a major government/defense advantage, comparing AST's satellite array (roughly 800 cubic feet) to the Space Development Agency's York-built PWSA satellites (roughly 3.4 cubic feet, on which the government is reportedly spending about $1.8 billion), and speculates this 'avoided cost' edge could eventually bridge to over $1 billion in government revenue.
  • Kook discusses AI data centers in space as an emerging opportunity, noting SpaceX's own AI-satellite concept video reportedly drew 25 million views, and argues AST's IP and large arrays position it as a potential infrastructure/launch-cargo leader in this space, though radiation-hardening of chips remains a key open engineering question.
  • Kook speculates AST could announce a T-Mobile direct-to-cell partnership, floating that timing could coincide with the anniversary of T-Mobile's exclusivity arrangement with SpaceX lapsing — explicitly framed as speculation, not confirmed.
  • Kook notes ASTS stock sold off sharply the prior week, which he attributes to investors rotating capital out of the broader 'space basket' to fund new SpaceX allocations rather than to any AST-specific bad news, and expects capital to eventually rotate into smaller 'pure play' names like AST, similar to the Nvidia-to-pure-plays pattern seen in the AI trade.
  • On the launch-vehicle side, Japan's JAXA/MHI H3 rocket had a successful launch, Blue Origin's Jeff Bezos reaffirmed plans to fly again before year-end, and Relativity Space (backed by Eric Schmidt) is advancing its larger Terran R rocket — all relevant to what Kook calls the market's main current worry: launch capacity availability for AST's growing satellite backlog.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

SpaceX IPO and Market Reaction

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:02:42

    SpaceX's IPO went very well with tight allocations; Kook says the stock was trading around $168 in the overnight market and calls SpaceX 'an insane company' that has been incredible at innovating, though he states he personally has no view on whether the stock itself goes up or down.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:02:42

    SpaceX CFO Brett Johnson, in his first remarks as a public-company executive, discussed plans to roll out Starlink Mobile globally to compete with MNOs over the next two years, citing a total addressable market of $1.6 trillion per year.

  • Kook Speculation 00:02:42

    Kook argues that while a superficial look makes displacing the world's MNOs look like a huge disruption opportunity, deeper diligence reveals it's an extremely complex proposition, with the most basic obstacle being SpaceX's lack of available spectrum.

  • Kook Speculation 00:05:12

    Kook predicts the MNOs' response to SpaceX's public 'we are coming for you' messaging will be a 'great global bear hug' of AST SpaceMobile, as carriers rally around the company that partners with them rather than competes with them.

  • Kook Speculation 00:05:12

    Kook cites a tweet (via 'The Spectator' account) from Sequoia Capital partner Sean Maguire projecting massive growth for SpaceX's direct-to-cell technology, and a follow-up from Anpanman asking 'Sean, have you heard of AST SpaceMobile,' arguing that VC/analyst attention on SpaceX will inevitably lead these same people to discover and study AST.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:05:12

    Kook cites SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell's CNBC interview (interviewer name given as 'Brendan Morgan,' possibly a garbled transcription) in which she said she expects Starlink Mobile subscriber numbers to 'far exceed' Starlink Broadband-in-the-home, taking this as confirmation that even SpaceX itself sees mobile/direct-to-device, not its existing broadband business, as its next major growth driver.

Batch 1 Launch and Technical Validation

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  • Kook Untagged 00:09:27

    Batch 1 (which Kook initially mislabels as 'Block 1') is stacked 'like tuna cans' with simple mechanical release mechanisms inside the Falcon 9 fairing; Kook calls Falcon 9 the 'Toyota Camry of spaceships' for its reliability, noting Falcon 9's overall launch success rate is '99-plus out of 100.'

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:09:27

    Launch is targeted for 2:39 AM on Wednesday, described as a roughly one-hour mission, with Batch 2 satellites expected to follow closely behind (Kook notes bears worry there may end up being more satellites than available rockets to launch them).

  • Kook Confirmed 00:09:27

    Citing an analysis from 'Katzy,' Kook describes the satellite-stacking mechanism as using two redundant actuators (not one) specifically to avoid a single point of failure, with a stated failure probability of one in four million for a given actuator.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:13:47

    Bears including the account 'Free Speech' and analyst Tim Ferrara had claimed SpaceX would never allow another manufacturer to physically stack satellites on Falcon 9, that all multi-satellite deployments (including on Block 5) require a dispenser, and that SpaceX holds a patent preventing the stacking approach; Kook says the successful stacking demonstration proves these claims wrong, and criticizes people who sold their stock based on such warnings.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:13:47

    Kook, citing a visual comparison Anpanman shared, notes BlueBirds 8, 9 and 10 (Batch 1) together represent the array-capacity equivalent of 11 Block 1 satellites, due to a more efficient stacked stowing configuration versus the earlier dispenser-based design — relevant to future fairing-space efficiency.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:12

    Kook speculates the company likely has a press release ready for a successful Batch 1 deployment and possibly a Batch 2 shipping-readiness release coming soon, though he says he doesn't actually know if Batch 2 is fully ready to ship.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:12

    Kook believes Bluebird 6 (FM1) has likely already commenced commercial operations, noting this had not yet been confirmed as of the Q1 10-Q; he expects a possible confirming press release soon and says the market likely won't care much, but he personally views FM1's operational status as important to his long-term thesis.

Product Roadmap and Financial Position

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  • Kook Company Guidance 00:21:12

    Per notes relayed from AST's annual shareholder meeting (via 'Tanner'), mid-band BlueBirds could launch by the end of the year, expected to be manufactured after Bluebird 45; production is currently around Bluebird 32, still working through the initial 'shell' of low-band satellites.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:21:12

    Same annual-meeting notes indicate Block 3 satellites are tied to the Ligado spectrum build-out (contingent on related FCC approval), and ASIC-equipped Bluebirds are expected to reach twice the peak data speed of the company's current field-programmable satellites — stated as 200 megabits per second.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:21:12

    The company confirmed it remains fully funded to build 100 Bluebirds and guided toward accelerating commercial distribution agreements (DAs) and possible additional prepayments.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:12

    Kook says he'd personally like to see the company's cash balance stay above $2 billion given its strong balance sheet, and isn't eager to see cash drawn down, believing there are multiple paths to that outcome.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:12

    Referencing a Banyan Lane Capital tweet comparing Tesla's and SpaceX's minimum-viable-product-to-breakaway-growth trajectories, Kook maps BlueWalker 3 as AST's 'proof' phase and the current/next-gen Bluebirds as the 'first product' phase, arguing AST has already been through its 'production hell' and is entering the nonlinear compounding phase of value growth.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:12

    Referencing his own May 19th tweet, Kook floats that ASTS could reach $900/share by next May — roughly a 10x from the ~$90 level at the time — explicitly framing this as speculative ('not saying we hit 900, but I think it's reasonable'), predicated on the idea the hardest early scaling work is largely behind the company.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:12

    Kook speculates AST may be close to a T-Mobile partnership, suggesting the timing could align with the anniversary of T-Mobile's exclusivity period with SpaceX Direct to Cell lapsing, and argues that with SpaceX now public, any AST/T-Mobile deal would draw outsized market attention as investors ask 'what is AST.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:12

    Citing a seasonal study from the account @CleverNameTBD, Kook notes ASTS has historically been a 'summer stock,' with stronger news flow and stock performance in the summer months, and expects this pattern to hold again this year.

Data Sovereignty

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  • Kook Speculation 00:27:42

    India paused Starlink approvals the prior week over national-security concerns; Kook frames this as part of a broader global 'data sovereignty' trend that he argues favors AST's model of working within individual sovereign nations' spectrum/regulatory regimes, versus what he characterizes as SpaceX's more borderless design.

  • Kook Rumor 00:27:42

    Kook mentions that Anthropic reportedly had a model he refers to as 'Fable 5' restricted in some countries over the prior weekend due to what he describes as an export-control/data-sovereignty issue, citing it as another example of increasing technology 'Balkanization' — noted here as a claim that is unverified in this context and only loosely tied to AST.

Government and Defense Business

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  • Kook Speculation 00:33:12

    Kook relays an unnamed expert's comments from a call stating that AST's large arrays are proving valuable to high-paying customers, that telecommunications remains the single biggest commercial payer for space infrastructure, and that defense programs including Golden Dome initiatives could also benefit, referencing AST's existing roughly $30 million SATCOM-related government contract.

  • Kook Rumor 00:33:12

    Kook relays an unverified claim, sourced from an Instagram post, that 'SEAL Team 6' is using AST's technology and reportedly called it 'the most extraordinary technology they've seen.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:12

    Kook discusses FirstNet's continued public references to AST SpaceMobile satellite coverage, arguing FirstNet represents a large, high-ARPU revenue opportunity given the high current cost of deploying temporary communications infrastructure in disaster areas; he states there is still no formal FirstNet contract but expresses confidence one will eventually materialize, noting FirstNet already references AST's technology in its documents and AST has tested and gained approval for FirstNet's spectrum.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:12

    Kook notes AST requested a Special Temporary Authority (STA) from the FCC to support non-commercial Space Development Agency (SDA) programs, now visible in the FCC docket, and speculates this filing is the 'tip-off' that Bluebird 6/FM1 has begun operational activity.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:12

    Citing a Katzy-authored thread, Kook compares AST's satellites to the Space Development Agency's PWSA 'T1TL' satellites built by York: York's array measures about 3.4 cubic feet versus AST's 'control' satellite at about 800 cubic feet, making AST's satellites roughly 100 times more powerful; he notes the government is reportedly spending about $1.8 billion on the York satellites.

  • Kook Speculation 00:33:12

    Kook speculates that AST's 'avoided cost' advantage relative to programs like York's could let it capture significant government revenue, floating — while stressing he doesn't know the actual figure and is 'taking Scott [Wisniewski] at face value' — that the company could plausibly bridge to 'over a billion dollars' of revenue from these narrower government programs.

  • Kook Untagged 00:33:12

    Kook cites a Katzy thread quoting Senator Mark Kelly referencing AST's existing active radar capability in space.

AI Data Centers in Space

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:35:37

    Kook notes SpaceX unveiled renderings/details of a proposed AI satellite, with an accompanying video reportedly reaching 25 million views; he says he's unsure if it's 'vaporware' but believes SpaceX's known solar-array expertise makes it plausible, identifying chip radiation-hardening and overall efficiency as the biggest open engineering questions rather than the solar/radiator hardware itself.

  • Kook Speculation 00:35:37

    Kook argues terrestrial power constraints make it 'intuitive' that AI compute will eventually need to move to orbit, and believes AST SpaceMobile — given its IP and large array sizes — is well positioned to become a leading third-party infrastructure/launch-cargo partner (potentially even for SpaceX itself) for companies pursuing orbital AI compute, which could also help such partners lower their own launch costs through higher cargo volume.

Europe / Satellite Connect Europe (Vodafone JV)

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:35:37

    Relaying comments via 'European correspondent Peter Lindmark,' Kook notes a view that Europe tends to over-regulate new markets before they exist, and that fragmented national interests among countries like France and Germany could hinder growth of the space industry there, unlike the US's more unified, risk-capital-friendly aerospace market.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:27

    Kook argues Satellite Connect Europe (the AST/Vodafone joint venture) is likely Europe's fastest path to a working direct-to-device market, and says that despite some noise around new FCC S-band rules and EU rules on foreign-owned joint ventures, he is optimistic these can be structured around and that the venture will secure meaningful spectrum, which Wall Street analysts would value highly.

Global Launch Vehicle Market

4
  • Kook Confirmed 00:43:07

    Japan's JAXA/MHI H3 rocket had a successful launch.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:43:07

    Blue Origin's Jeff Bezos reaffirmed the company still intends to fly before the end of the year, citing confidence in long-lead hardware and booster readiness; Kook says he has no independent way to verify the timeline and is simply taking Bezos at his word.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:07

    Relativity Space, which Kook says had looked like a likely failure, has been revitalized by investor Eric Schmidt's backing and is advancing its Terran R rocket, which Kook describes as bigger than Rocket Lab's Neutron.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:07

    Rocket Lab was added to the Nasdaq 100 index on the strength of its market cap and revenue (though Kook notes much of that revenue comes from lower-margin engineering services, under about 30% margin); Kook speculates AST could similarly qualify for Nasdaq 100 inclusion once its own revenue ramps.

Stock Performance and Market Context

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:43:27

    Kook notes ASTS stock 'got absolutely mauled' the prior week, attributing the selloff to investors rotating capital out of the broader 'space basket' to fund new SpaceX allocations, compounded by weak buying interest on an options-expiration Friday; he compares this to the Nvidia-to-'pure play' rotation pattern seen in the AI trade and expects a similar rotation into AST relative to SpaceX.

  • Kook Untagged 00:43:27

    Kook notes broader macro context: the overall market was up, oil prices were falling, and he expressed skepticism about reports of 'peace in the Middle East.'

Watch Items7

  • Batch 1 (BlueBirds 8-10) launch on Falcon 9

    2:39 AM on Wednesday, ~1-hour mission Kook 00:09:27
  • Batch 2 satellite shipping/launch readiness

    "probably pretty soon" (unconfirmed, Kook's guess) Kook 00:21:12
  • Confirmation of Bluebird 6 (FM1) commercial operations via press release

    Possibly around the Batch 1 launch window Kook 00:21:12
  • Mid-band BlueBirds launch

    By the end of the year, per annual meeting notes Kook 00:21:12
  • Possible T-Mobile direct-to-cell partnership announcement

    Speculated to align with T-Mobile/SpaceX exclusivity anniversary; unconfirmed Kook 00:21:12
  • Blue Origin next flight

    Before the end of the year, per Jeff Bezos Kook 00:43:07
  • Formal FirstNet contract

    No set date; Kook frames it as inevitable over a long time horizon Kook 00:33:12

Open Questions8

  • Will Batch 2 satellites actually be ready to ship soon, confirming sustained operational cadence rather than a one-off push to complete Batch 1?

    Kook 00:21:12
  • Has Bluebird 6 (FM1) actually begun commercial operations, and will the company confirm this via press release?

    Kook 00:21:12
  • Will AST secure a formal T-Mobile partnership, and if so, when?

    Kook 00:21:12
  • Will AST's SDA-related STA filing lead to a larger, revenue-generating government contract, and how large could that government revenue opportunity realistically be?

    Kook 00:33:12
  • Is SpaceX's proposed AI satellite/orbital data center concept real engineering progress or largely promotional, particularly regarding radiation-hardening of chips?

    Kook 00:35:37
  • Will the Satellite Connect Europe (Vodafone) joint venture actually secure meaningful spectrum given EU and FCC regulatory uncertainty?

    Kook 00:43:27
  • Will launch vehicle capacity (Blue Origin, Relativity, etc.) keep pace with AST's satellite production, or will rocket availability become the binding constraint on deployment?

    Kook 00:43:07
  • Will AST ever receive a formal FirstNet contract, given the technology and spectrum approvals already reportedly in place?

    Kook 00:33:12
2026-06-10 45:43

Anpanm - Why the SpaceX IPO Changes Everything for ASTS

Anpanman

Anpanman hosts a solo X Spaces recap ahead of AST SpaceMobile's planned June 17, 2026 launch from Cape Canaveral. He covers Micron/BlueBird production cadence, upcoming launch-partner agreements, and possible Golden Dome contract news.

The bulk of the episode analyzes the SpaceX IPO (pricing at $135/share the next day) as a 'watershed event' that will bring sustained institutional and media attention to the whole space sector.

Anpanman argues AST SpaceMobile is best positioned as the strategic direct-to-device counter to Starlink for mobile carriers (T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon) and eventually big tech (Amazon, Apple, Google).

He closes discussing macro/inflation dynamics and carrier game theory around the closing Starlink/T-Mobile exclusivity window and the AT&T-Verizon-T-Mobile joint venture.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile has a launch planned for early morning Wednesday, June 17, 2026 out of Cape Canaveral; Anpanman is trying to arrive around June 16 and says Kook and other community members are also trying to attend.
  • The SpaceX IPO was set to price at $135/share and begin trading the day after this episode aired (around June 11, 2026), selling roughly $75 billion of stock against an implied valuation of about $1.75 trillion.
  • Anpanman personally put in an IPO order for about $2 million of SpaceX stock capped at the $135 offering price ('or nothing'), and expects only a small fill (guessing 5-10%).
  • Space-sector stocks (AST, Rocket Lab, Planet Labs, BlackSky, and smaller names like Sidus Space, Momentus, Satellogic, Virgin Galactic, Firefly) rallied hard into late May 2026 (AST peaked around $133) and then sold off roughly 40-50% from those peaks heading into the SpaceX IPO; several smaller companies raised capital via ATMs near the peak.
  • June CPI inflation came in at 4.2%, in line with expectations, driven mainly by fuel oil, gasoline, and airfare; strong jobs data has shifted rate expectations from possible cuts this year to a possible Q4 hike, which Anpanman flags as important for capital-intensive, high-growth companies like AST that rely on continued access to funding.
  • Anpanman says (per his understanding, unofficial) AST's Micron production capacity is now well north of 6 satellites/month and potentially approaching double that, but bus/composite-ring production is only nearing a 6-per-month cadence, making buses the near-term bottleneck; he guesses an indication on the next batch of 3 satellites could come within 1-2 weeks.
  • Anpanman expects launch capacity to become the binding constraint on AST's growth and anticipates new multi-launch agreements (MLAs) in the near term, including a formal deal with United Launch Alliance and possibly Arianespace, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, and Relativity Space (whose Terran R rocket he guesses could fly in the next 2-3 months to end of year).
  • Space Force awarded SpaceX a $2.3 billion 'MilNet' SATCOM backbone contract as part of multi-vendor Golden Dome-related awards; Anpanman speculates AST could announce its own large Golden Dome-related contract within the next 1-3 weeks.
  • T-Mobile's exclusivity period with Starlink Direct to Cell is ending in the next few weeks; Anpanman speculates T-Mobile could announce a non-exclusive MOU or agreement with AST SpaceMobile around that time, potentially tied to the AT&T-Verizon-T-Mobile joint venture negotiations.
  • Anpanman argues regulators are unlikely to force MNOs to grant SpaceX MVNO wholesale access, since the FCC/DOJ favor facilities-based (spectrum/tower-owning) competition over resellers, citing Dish Network's failed attempt to become a 4th carrier.
  • Anpanman speculates SpaceX buying a US wireless carrier (e.g. T-Mobile) would likely crater SpaceX's valuation by 30-40% because it would get re-rated as a slow-growth telecom (T-Mobile trades around 7.5x EBITDA, with guided revenue of about $95 billion and EBITDA of about $37 billion this year) rather than a space/data-center growth story — so he doesn't expect it to happen.
  • Anpanman guesses Amazon could eventually partner with AST SpaceMobile for direct-to-cell, but likely not for another 2-3 years (spitballing 2028-2029), since Amazon must first clear regulatory approval of its Globalstar/Kuiper-related deal and deploy the MDA Space-built 'Aurora' satellites (about 50 satellites, mostly narrowband-focused).

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Launch Prep for June 17 Launch

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The next AST SpaceMobile launch is happening early morning on Wednesday, June 17, out of Cape Canaveral.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:25

    Correcting an earlier statement, he now plans to arrive at the Cape on Tuesday, June 16 rather than Wednesday; he's booked a hotel but not a flight yet, and attendance is '50/50' pending childcare arrangements.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:20:28

    Kook is reportedly trying to clear his calendar to attend the launch in person, along with a number of other community members; a coordination group has formed, with many staying at the Titusville Courtyard Marriott or the Hyatt across the street near Kennedy Space Center, from which launch can be viewed.

SpaceMob Community and Media Mindshare

2
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:02:13

    Gives a shoutout to the Space Stocks Weekly crew (Space Investor, Jacob, Brett, and others); the show started roughly a year and a half ago focused mainly on Rocket Lab before growing into an all-encompassing community covering AST SpaceMobile, Planet Labs, and other space names, now held weekly on Tuesdays at 8pm.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:02:13

    A Dow Jones article (also reposted on Morningstar, MarketWatch, and Wall Street Journal) highlighted this SpaceMob/Space Stocks Weekly community, which he cites as evidence that retail space investing is becoming mainstream.

SpaceX IPO Impact Analysis

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:04:58

    The SpaceX IPO is priced at $135/share and is expected to price and begin trading the day after this recording; the deal sells about $75 billion of stock against an implied overall valuation of roughly $1.75 trillion.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:58

    Calls the IPO a 'watershed event' for the space sector that will bring sustained daily media coverage (Bloomberg, WSJ, Investor's Business Daily) and institutional/retail mindshare to adjacent names like AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, and Planet Labs, which he says would not have gotten this level of coverage otherwise.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:04:58

    Discloses he originally didn't plan to buy into the IPO but changed his mind after seeing retail was getting a large allocation; he put in an order for about $2 million of SpaceX stock, capped at the $135 offering price with no willingness to pay more, and expects only a small fill.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:04:58

    Space-sector stocks rallied hard into late May (AST around $133, Rocket Lab around $130-140, BlackSky into the $50s) before selling off roughly 40-50% from those peaks by the time of the IPO; several smaller/microcap names (Sidus Space, Momentus, Satellogic, Virgin Galactic, Firefly, plus larger names Rocket Lab, Redwire, Planet Labs) raised capital via ATM sales near the peak.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:58

    Having watched the SpaceX IPO roadshow as an E*Trade/Morgan Stanley client, he came away 'very bullish' on SpaceX despite some skepticism about the pitch, and expects strong IPO demand since TMT investors will feel obligated to own at least some exposure.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:29:28

    In response to a listener question, confirms it's normal for investors and funds to sell existing positions (including space-sector names) to free up cash/margin to participate in a large IPO like SpaceX's, and that this selling pressure could be a near-term drag on space stocks — comparing the dynamic to broader market-liquidity concerns around other large pending IPOs like OpenAI and Anthropic.

Space Data Center / Market TAM Thesis

1
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:08:43

    Argues space-based AI data centers represent a very large, largely untapped market opportunity beyond communications or Earth observation, which he says undercuts bearish arguments that there isn't enough economic demand to support all the launch capacity being built.

Macro: Inflation and Rate Outlook

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:12:28

    CPI inflation came in at 4.2%, in line with expectations, with the increase driven mainly by fuel oil, gasoline, and airfare (per a Charles Schwab CPI breakdown he tweeted), tied to oil-price pressure from the Iran situation.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:12:28

    Rate expectations have shifted from a potential 1-2 cuts this year to a potential hike in Q4, following a strong jobs report reinforced by private payroll data.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:28

    Speculates (explicitly a guess, prompted by asking ChatGPT) that the strong jobs number could be inflated by temporary World Cup-related hospitality hiring in the US, which might reverse once the tournament ends.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:12:28

    Notes the macro/rate environment matters for capital-intensive, high-growth companies like AST that need continuous funding cycles: an accommodative Fed with cheap borrowing and open capital markets is favorable, while a 2022-style tightening environment is not.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:28

    Mentions Iran having downed a US Apache helicopter and the US responding overnight, with Trump using tough rhetoric as a negotiating tactic; flags this as a macro/oil-price risk to watch given Trump's sensitivity to stock-market reactions.

Production Update: Micron and BlueBird Cadence

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:28

    Says (from what he understands, unofficial) the next batch of 3 satellites ('batch 2') is progressing well and the company could indicate within the next 1-2 weeks that it's done and ready for testing/shipment.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:28

    Believes the company can now produce Micron modules 'well north of 6 satellites worth a month,' possibly approaching double that (near 12/month), while bus/composite-ring production (which houses the control set) is only nearing a 6-per-month cadence, making buses the near-term production bottleneck.

Launch Partner Expansion (MLAs)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:58

    Expects launch capacity to soon become the binding constraint once production cadence ramps, and believes the company is working to secure more guaranteed launches, including additional SpaceX slots.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:58

    Expects a formal multi-launch agreement (MLA) with United Launch Alliance in the near term, given the companies are already working together informally.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:58

    Names Arianespace, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, and Relativity Space as other launch providers he expects AST to sign agreements with in the coming weeks and months.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:58

    Relativity Space, now under Eric Schmidt's leadership (whom he compares to Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos in execution ability), is developing the Terran R rocket, which he guesses could launch in the next 2-3 months or possibly closer to year-end.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:23:58

    Reports (from what he's been hearing) that Blue Origin's SLC-36 and SLC-36B launch pads appear on track to be ready by the end of the year, better progress than many skeptics expected, given the resources being devoted to it.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:23:58

    Notes existing launch capacity also includes ISRO's LVM-3, which can carry 2 composite BlueBirds per launch, alongside Blue Origin.

Golden Dome and Space Force Contracts

2
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:27:13

    Space Force awarded a $2.3 billion contract to SpaceX to accelerate the 'MilNet' SATCOM backbone, part of a broader push including next-generation radar capability contracts; these awards are structured as multi-vendor, not sole-sourced.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:27:13

    Given the timing of these multi-vendor award announcements, he 'would not be surprised' if AST SpaceMobile announces a fairly large Golden Dome-related contract award within the next 1-3 weeks.

Carrier Game Theory: Starlink, T-Mobile, and the AT&T/Verizon JV

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:29:28

    T-Mobile's exclusivity period with Starlink Direct to Cell is set to end in the next few weeks.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:28

    Speculates T-Mobile could announce a non-exclusive MOU or commercial agreement with AST SpaceMobile once the exclusivity window closes, potentially timed to coincide with the conclusion of the AT&T-Verizon-T-Mobile joint venture negotiations; under such a deal T-Mobile would continue working with Starlink as well.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:28

    Argues carriers need to publicly maintain they'll keep offering Starlink alongside AST to avoid antitrust concerns as they present the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile spectrum-pooling joint venture to regulators as pro-consumer and non-exclusionary.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:28

    Views SpaceX's 'Starlink Mobile' ambitions (global roaming positioning referenced by SpaceX's CFO) as a serious competitive threat to MNOs, reinforcing his view that AST SpaceMobile is the logical strategic counter for MNOs globally and eventually large tech companies like Google, Apple, and Amazon.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:28

    In response to a listener question, says he doesn't see regulators forcing an MNO to grant SpaceX MVNO wholesale access, since the FCC/DOJ favor facilities-based (spectrum- and tower-owning) competition over resale arrangements, citing Dish Network's failed attempt (after buying Sprint assets and spectrum) to become a viable 4th facilities-based carrier.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:28

    Notes game theory could still cause one carrier to 'break' and offer Starlink Mobile wholesale access if it calculates the wholesale volume gain outweighs losing subscriber share to the other two carriers, but believes none of the three currently want to make that trade-off given the long-term competitive risk.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:28

    In response to a listener's suggestion that SpaceX's ~$75 billion IPO raise could fund a US MNO acquisition (e.g. T-Mobile), argues this would likely crater SpaceX's valuation by roughly 30-40% since it would get re-rated as a slow-growth telecom rather than a space/data-center growth story; cites T-Mobile trading around 7.5x EBITDA with guided revenue of about $95 billion and EBITDA of about $37 billion this year as the kind of valuation compression that would result, so he doesn't expect SpaceX to pursue it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:28

    In response to a question about Amazon/Blue Origin's direct-to-cell timing, says a partnership between AST and Amazon doesn't make sense near-term since Amazon/Kuiper still needs regulatory approval for its Globalstar-related deal and must first launch older Globalstar satellites plus roughly 50 next-generation 'Aurora' satellites built by MDA Space, which he believes are narrowband-focused rather than full broadband direct-to-cell; he guesses (spitballing) an AST-Amazon tie-up could happen around 2028-2029, after Amazon works through its fixed-wireless buildout obligations and Apple commitments.

Watch Items8

  • AST SpaceMobile launch from Cape Canaveral

    Early morning Wednesday, June 17, 2026 Anpanman 00:00:28
  • SpaceX IPO pricing and first day of trading

    The day after this episode (~June 11, 2026) Anpanman 00:04:58
  • Indication that 'batch 2' (next 3 satellites) is complete and ready to ship

    Next 1-2 weeks (Anpanman's guess) Anpanman 00:20:28
  • Formal multi-launch agreement (MLA) with United Launch Alliance

    Near term (Anpanman's guess) Anpanman 00:23:58
  • Relativity Space Terran R first launch

    Next 2-3 months, possibly closer to end of year (Anpanman's guess) Anpanman 00:23:58
  • Blue Origin SLC-36/36B launch pad readiness

    By the end of the year (per Anpanman's sources) Anpanman 00:23:58
  • Possible large AST SpaceMobile Golden Dome-related contract announcement

    Next 1-3 weeks (Anpanman's guess) Anpanman 00:27:13
  • Possible T-Mobile MOU/agreement with AST SpaceMobile as Starlink exclusivity ends

    Next few weeks Anpanman 00:29:28

Open Questions5

  • How will the SpaceX IPO trade after pricing, and will that lift or drag the broader space sector (including AST)?

    Anpanman 00:04:58
  • Will investors who don't get filled on the SpaceX IPO rotate that capital back into beaten-down space names like AST SpaceMobile?

    Anpanman 00:04:58
  • Will T-Mobile announce an MOU or commercial agreement with AST SpaceMobile once its Starlink exclusivity period ends?

    Anpanman 00:29:28
  • Will AST SpaceMobile receive a Golden Dome-related contract award in the coming weeks, following the multi-vendor award pattern seen with SpaceX's MilNet contract?

    Anpanman 00:27:13
  • Will Amazon eventually partner with AST SpaceMobile for direct-to-cell service once its Kuiper/Globalstar regulatory and constellation obligations are resolved?

    Anpanman 00:29:28
2026-06-09 44:26

Anpanman - Launch and SpaceX IPO Roadshow Secrets

Anpanman

Anpanman covers the confirmed launch of Bluebirds 8, 9, and 10 on a SpaceX Falcon 9 for Wednesday, June 17, without a company-sponsored event. He also covers community/meetup plans at Cape Canaveral.

He debunks a long-running 'satellites won't fit in the Falcon 9 fairing' rumor, and recaps an options trader's large losing bet against the stock.

He spends the bulk of the episode dissecting the SpaceX IPO roadshow, arguing that Starlink's admitted plan to compete directly with mobile carriers validates AST SpaceMobile's low-band spectrum moat and its emerging alignment with the AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile joint venture.

His headline conclusion is that Starlink can capture a slice of the mobile market with mid-band spectrum and new handsets, but only AST's existing low-band, unmodified-handset architecture can deliver true carrier-grade replacement service. That makes SpaceX's mobile ambitions a catalyst rather than a threat for ASTS.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 Bluebird satellites 8, 9, and 10 are scheduled to launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 on Wednesday, June 17, with a launch window of roughly 2:30 AM to 4:15 AM; unlike prior launches, this one will not be a company-sponsored event.
  • Anpanman says the company plans to hold a sponsored event for the next batch (Bluebirds 11, 12, and 13), which he guesses could happen in July or early August, though no date has been set.
  • A long-standing bearish rumor claiming AST's satellites were too large to fit inside a Falcon 9 payload fairing, traced by Anpanman to analyst Tim Farrar (referred to in the transcript as 'Tim Ferrara'/'Tim Ferriss'), has been disproven by a published photo of Bluebirds 8, 9, and 10 stacked inside a Falcon 9 fairing.
  • A trader nicknamed 'Tinderbox' bought 200 in-the-money weekly $100 put options on ASTS for $10.20 each (about $204,000 total) the day before the episode, needing the stock to fall below $89.75 to break even; instead the stock was expected to close above $100, leaving him down an estimated $150,000-$160,000.
  • AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile recently announced a joint venture to coordinate satellite connectivity strategy, pool spectrum, and reduce costs; Anpanman says he has confirmed with AST SpaceMobile that the company is the venture's primary satellite partner, even though this isn't yet public knowledge in the market.
  • AT&T and Verizon hold multi-year (roughly 2-3 year) exclusivity with AST SpaceMobile; T-Mobile's separate exclusivity arrangement with Starlink/T-Satellite is expiring around June or July 2026, but Anpanman doesn't expect T-Mobile to drop that service immediately.
  • In a SpaceX IPO roadshow clip, CFO Brett Johnson and Gwynne Shotwell described explicit plans to compete directly with mobile network operators globally over roughly the next two years via Starlink Mobile — described by Anpanman as SpaceX's 'mask off' moment on this strategy.
  • Anpanman argues AST SpaceMobile has a durable structural advantage over Starlink because AST's satellites are architected to use existing low-band spectrum (600-900 MHz) and can work with unmodified, existing handsets, while Starlink's satellites only use mid-band spectrum and will require new handsets built to support newly acquired (EchoStar) spectrum.
  • AST has already demonstrated 100 Mbps service with Block 1 satellites; the Block 2 satellites currently launching are expected to deliver around 200 Mbps, while Starlink's next-generation satellite is targeting roughly 150 Mbps but isn't expected to deploy for about two to three years.
  • AST's revenue-sharing structure with carriers is roughly a 50/50 split, compared to what Anpanman describes as Starlink's arrangement with T-Mobile of keeping about 80% and passing 20% to the carrier.
  • Anpanman speculates that the SpaceX IPO roadshow revealed a large and fast-growing AI compute-leasing business, citing deals where SpaceX rents out data-center capacity (built originally for xAI) to Anthropic and Google, with the Google arrangement cited at roughly $900 million per month and combined Anthropic/Google leasing later described as around $1.5 billion per month.
  • A SpaceX roadshow presenter described converting next-generation Starlink communications satellites into AI data-center satellites by removing the phased array and adding radiators for heat dissipation, which Anpanman says mirrors his own long-standing thesis that AST's Block 2 satellites could similarly be adapted into AI-compute satellites by swapping phased-array elements for heat sinks and swapping ASICs for GPUs/TPUs.
  • Anpanman criticizes commentators (naming a Rocket Lab shareholder referred to as 'Stan') who simultaneously argue AST SpaceMobile and SpaceX are overvalued while holding Rocket Lab, calling this self-defeating since space-sector valuations tend to move in tandem.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Bluebird 8, 9, 10 Launch Logistics and Community Meetup

5
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:18

    Bluebirds 8, 9, and 10 are scheduled to launch aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 on Wednesday, June 17; this coming launch will not be a company-sponsored event, though the company mentioned plans for a sponsored event around the next batch, Bluebirds 11, 12, and 13, which Anpanman guesses (not confirmed) could occur in July or early August depending on production and launch scheduling.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:59

    The launch window opens at 2:30 AM and extends to about 4:15 AM Wednesday morning; Anpanman is flying down Wednesday evening after his kids are out of school, plans to catch some sleep, attend the launch, then fly back to New York afterward.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:52

    He booked a hotel room at the Courtyard Titusville (later corrected in the Q&A to Tuesday the 16th through Wednesday the 17th, not Wednesday night as he originally said) and invites listeners to meet up there; he notes a nice rooftop bar and lobby, and that a Hyatt next door also has rooms available since this isn't a company-sponsored event.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:52

    He mentions that a community member, Steve Larsen, is buried at a site behind the Titusville hotel overlooking Kennedy Space Center, and that he has shared Google Maps coordinates previously for those who want to visit; he plans to visit during this trip.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:44:38

    In audience Q&A, when asked when the next PR for the following Bluebird batch might come, Anpanman said he expects it sometime in the middle to back half of the month (June), but was not certain.

Debunking the Fairing FUD and FUD Accounts

3
  • Anpanman Rumor 00:03:13

    A rumor originating around Mobile World Congress, which he attributes to analyst Tim Farrar (transcribed as 'Tim Ferrara'/'Tim Ferriss'), claimed AST's satellites would not fit inside a standard Falcon 9 fairing and that all of the company's 2025-era Falcon 9 launches were consequently 'off the table'; hedge funds reportedly circulated this as bearish news.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:03:13

    Anpanman says this claim has now been debunked by a published photo showing Bluebirds 8, 9, and 10 stacked together inside a Falcon 9 fairing, and notes the company has said from the start that its satellites are architected to fit within any standard fairing (Falcon 9, Ariane 6, Blue Origin New Glenn, etc.).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:17

    He discusses a broader pattern of pseudonymous anti-AST accounts (naming 'Philip Lyle Free Speech' and 'Sprites/Shorts Manager' as examples) who have spent years trying to spread FUD and short the stock, claiming some of these accounts are actually SpaceX employees moonlighting online; he frames the persistence of the SpaceX Starlink direct-to-cell business as validation that this market is real, undercutting years of claims that direct-to-device would never matter.

Options Trader Loss on Bearish Bet

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:02

    A trader ('Tinderbox') who publicly polled where ASTS would trade after the Bluebird 8/9/10 launch (offering choices of below $50, $40, or $30) bought 200 in-the-money weekly $100 put options at $10.20 each (about $204,000 total) at 2:51 PM the prior day, when the stock was trading around $92; his breakeven was $89.75.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:02

    Anpanman expected the stock to close that day above $100 (potentially above $105, with $120-130 possible depending on macro factors like Iran-related news or a Trump-related de-escalation), meaning the trader's puts would likely be worth only $2-3 at the open, translating to an estimated loss of roughly $150,000-$160,000, around 70-80% of his position.

SpaceX IPO Roadshow and the Carrier Joint Venture

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:12:52

    Anpanman watched the SpaceX IPO roadshow via his E-Trade/Morgan Stanley brokerage access and posted a short excerpt of SpaceX CFO Brett Johnson discussing Starlink Mobile plans, noting a separate, more 'sanitized' Gavin Baker interview posted by Elon Musk covers similar ground with less pointed language.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:15:17

    About two weeks before this episode, AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile announced a joint venture to coordinate satellite service delivery, reduce network deployment costs, and pool spectrum; AST SpaceMobile put out its own press release roughly a minute after that announcement, and Anpanman says he has personally confirmed with the company that AST is the joint venture's satellite partner, even though the market broadly doesn't know this yet.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:17

    He explains that for the joint venture to clear antitrust approval, the carriers likely have to frame it as open to working with multiple satellite providers (e.g., possibly Viasat), but says it's clear AT&T and Verizon are focused on AST, given their existing 2-3 year AST exclusivity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:15:17

    T-Mobile's exclusivity arrangement with Starlink is expiring this month or next, but Anpanman doesn't expect T-Mobile to drop the Starlink-based service soon, expecting them to keep it running through the regulatory process while also joining the AT&T/Verizon-AST joint venture.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:12:52

    Roughly 12-13 hours after the carrier joint venture announcement, Gwynne Shotwell of SpaceX said the company would be competing with all the MNOs ('David and Goliath'), which Anpanman calls a 'mask off' admission of Starlink's intent to compete directly with mobile carriers globally, rolling out a global service over the next two years and selling it directly to consumers.

Technical Moat: Low-Band Spectrum vs. Starlink's Mid-Band Architecture

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:17

    He argues Starlink can compete with MNOs 'to a degree' in low-coverage or non-dense areas using roughly 50-60 MHz of mid-band spectrum, offering decent data service, but the service won't work well indoors or through obstructions.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:17

    Low-band spectrum (600-900 MHz) is described as essential for carrier-grade coverage — able to penetrate trees, walls, and subways — and Starlink's satellites are not architected to use it and won't be for the foreseeable future, even as they add more satellites and throughput.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:17

    AST's spectrum strategy layers low-band (for coverage/propagation, currently being launched), mid-band via L-band and pursued S-band globally (for capacity, planned to start production/launch around Q2 of the following year), describing this as two spectrum 'shells.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:17

    AST has demonstrated 100 Mbps with Block 1 satellites; the Block 2 satellites now launching are expected to deliver around 200 Mbps, versus Starlink targeting roughly 150 Mbps with a next-generation satellite that isn't expected to deploy for about two to three years.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:17

    Starlink will require new handsets to use its newly acquired EchoStar spectrum, and getting that spectrum incorporated into chipsets requires buy-in from MNOs (who drive chipset requirements with Apple and Samsung); AST, by contrast, uses patented techniques that trick existing, unmodified phones into treating the satellite as a terrestrial tower, so current and older devices already work with AST without new hardware.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:47

    He describes Starlink's approach as high-friction compared to AST's — requiring a new handset, a separate bill/eSIM, and manual network switching that can create rough handoffs (citing user complaints about T-Satellite/T-Mobile handoff issues) — versus AST's model, which integrates into the MNO's core network for seamless handoff and a single bill, likening AST's ease-of-use to Netflix's subscribe-and-use model.

MNO Game Theory, MVNOs, and Revenue Splits

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:47

    One path for Starlink to get low-band spectrum access would be a wholesale MVNO agreement with a carrier (similar to Mint Mobile/Boost), but he says AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile's CEOs have publicly said there's no strategic rationale to offer Starlink such a deal, since it would erode average selling prices industry-wide once 'the genie is out of the bottle.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:47

    He speculates that AT&T and Verizon reasoned that if they didn't let T-Mobile join their AST-aligned joint venture, T-Mobile might instead deepen its relationship with Starlink via an MVNO deal, which would be a net negative for the whole industry — part of why T-Mobile was allowed in.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:47

    He describes AST's revenue split with carriers as roughly 50/50, versus what he says is Starlink's arrangement with T-Mobile of keeping about 80 cents on the dollar and passing 20 cents to the carrier, calling AST's economics 'far more superior' even if pricing pressure eventually pushes AST's cut down toward 35-40%.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:47

    He recaps that AST originally had a 5-year mutually exclusive deal with AT&T alone (roughly a third of the market), then added Verizon (two-thirds), and now with T-Mobile joining the carrier joint venture, AST is positioned to work with effectively 100% of the major US MNO market.

Broader Partner Ecosystem: Google, Apple, Amazon, and Globalstar

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:47

    He includes Google (a strategic AST investor working on handset compatibility) and Apple as effectively aligned with AST's side of the market, noting Apple is partnered with Amazon, and Amazon committed to providing some minimum level of service for Globalstar as part of that arrangement.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:47

    Globalstar is replenishing its older satellites and moving to second-generation MDA Space 'Aurora' satellites, but Anpanman guesses that service will remain narrowband, given limited spectrum, until Globalstar can develop a more robust constellation, which he estimates could be around 2030-2031.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:26:47

    He speculates that Amazon and AST SpaceMobile may ultimately partner directly, reasoning that Amazon/Apple's dearth of spectrum and lack of MNO relationships could make combining with AST's satellite network and MNO ties a win-win over the long run.

Space-Based AI Data Centers

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:17

    He notes SpaceX is competing across many verticals simultaneously — fixed wireless (Starlink), mobile (Starlink Mobile), AI, AI data centers in space, robotics, and solar cell/module production — describing SpaceX as a 'do-all and do-everything' company.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:17

    He says xAI (Grok) built out significant computing capacity but has had 'somewhat limited traction,' and speculates that as a result SpaceX entered short-term, cancellable (roughly 1-3 month notice) compute-leasing agreements with Anthropic and Google, citing a figure of roughly $900 million a month from the Google deal, and later describing combined Anthropic/Google leasing revenue as on the order of $1.5 billion a month; he adds he's speculating that recent departures of original and newer xAI staff may be related.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:34:17

    A presenter on the SpaceX IPO roadshow (name not recalled) reportedly described converting next-generation Starlink V2/V3 communications satellites into AI data-center satellites simply by removing the phased array and adding radiator elements for heat dissipation, since compute and interconnects are already built in.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:17

    Anpanman says this description closely mirrors his own longstanding thesis (discussed for several months) that AST's Block 2 satellites could similarly be repurposed into AI-compute satellites by swapping the phased-array Micron elements for heat sinks and swapping the ASICs for GPUs or TPUs, calling the parallel a validating moment.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:17

    He frames SpaceX's simultaneous competition with and leasing to Anthropic/Google as normal 'co-opetition' in tech, and applies the same logic to SpaceX launching AST's competing satellites on Falcon 9 — cooperation and competition can coexist, and antitrust law (citing the Sherman and Clayton Acts) would prevent SpaceX from using launch access to block competitors like AST.

Valuation and Sector Comparisons

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:38:02

    He criticizes a Rocket Lab shareholder referred to as 'Stan,' who he says routinely argues that AST SpaceMobile and SpaceX are overvalued, calling this self-defeating since Rocket Lab's own valuation and investor interest are boosted by proximity to SpaceX, and space-sector valuations tend to move in tandem.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:38:02

    He argues SpaceX/Starlink deserves a valuation premium given the difficulty of running a reliable launch vehicle (citing challenges faced by competitors' vehicles, referenced as 'Lourdes' and New Glenn), and says AST SpaceMobile currently trades at a relatively lower valuation that he expects to eventually catch up if projections hold.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:38:02

    In audience comments, one listener notes 'Stan' reportedly sold his Rocket Lab position, moved to cash, then bought into Reddit stock (possibly following another trader nicknamed 'Cyber Prince'), which Anpanman says only lasted about a week for Cyber Prince before exiting.

Watch Items5

  • Launch of Bluebirds 8, 9, and 10 (first Block 2 batch after BlueBird 6) aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 from Cape Canaveral

    Wednesday, June 17, launch window approximately 2:30 AM-4:15 AM Anpanman 00:00:18
  • Next company-sponsored launch event, expected for Bluebirds 11, 12, and 13

    Guessed at July or early August, unconfirmed Anpanman 00:00:18
  • Next press release covering the following batch of Bluebirds

    Guessed at middle to back half of June Anpanman 00:44:38
  • AST mid-band spectrum shell (L-band/S-band) satellites entering production and launch

    Guessed at around Q2 of the following year Anpanman 00:18:17
  • T-Mobile's exclusivity arrangement with Starlink/T-Satellite expiring

    This month or next month (June or July 2026) Anpanman 00:15:17

Open Questions4

  • Will T-Mobile actually drop its Starlink/T-Satellite service once its exclusivity period ends and it is fully aligned with the AT&T/Verizon-AST joint venture, or will it keep both running in parallel?

    Anpanman 00:15:17
  • How much will AST's roughly 50/50 revenue split with carriers compress over time under competitive pressure, and does that materially change the investment thesis if AST captures the large majority of MNO-based satellite revenue?

    Anpanman 00:26:47
  • Will Amazon and AST SpaceMobile eventually form a direct partnership given Amazon/Apple's reliance on the spectrum-constrained Globalstar network?

    Anpanman 00:26:47
  • Is SpaceX's fast-growing AI compute-leasing business (to Anthropic and Google) a sign that xAI's own compute needs are underwhelming, and how sustainable is that leasing revenue given the short-term, cancellable nature of those contracts?

    Anpanman 00:34:17
2026-06-08 51:00

Kook's Weekly - June 7 - Riders of the storm

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' episode (recorded June 7, 2026, published June 8), Kook returns from a camping trip to recap a volatile week for AST SpaceMobile.

He covers market fears of a 'Black Monday' that didn't materialize, a secondhand anecdote about defense-industry insiders buying ASTS, Brazil's 10x10 MHz spectrum authorization, and the latest on Blue Origin's New Glenn recovery after its recent anomaly.

He spends much of the episode arguing that AST SpaceMobile is winning MNOs away from SpaceX/Starlink because Elon Musk's vertical-integration instincts make him an untrustworthy long-term partner for carriers, citing T-Mobile's CFO turning sharply critical of Starlink.

Kook's headline conclusion is that spectrum wins, technology moat (the patented 'Micron sandwich'), and MNO alienation from SpaceX are aggregating toward a 'gradual, then sudden' market re-rating of ASTS, with a speculative multi-trillion-dollar upside from AI data centers in orbit as a longer-dated call option.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook, host of the unofficial AST SpaceMobile podcast, delivered a solo weekly recap episode on June 7, 2026, with no Anpanman appearance except a citation of Anpanman's tweet about T-Mobile's CFO.
  • Kook relayed a secondhand, unverified anecdote from a camping trip: an acquaintance at an unnamed private defense contractor said two of his managers, plus a friend at a larger defense company, had told him to buy ASTS stock — framed by Kook as an informal signal from industry insiders rather than actual inside information.
  • Despite widespread fears of a market selloff ('Black Monday') over the weekend, both broader markets and ASTS traded up when markets opened, which Kook took as a bullish sign.
  • AST SpaceMobile was authorized for 10x10 MHz of spectrum in Brazil; Kook argues this reflects an 'aggregation effect' where efficient satellite systems attract spectrum that would otherwise cost billions of dollars, building toward a future sudden market re-rating.
  • Blue Origin (per Jeff Bezos and executive David Limp) says it is targeting a New Glenn return-to-flight before the end of 2026 following the prior launch anomaly; Kook estimates the realistic delay versus AST's original schedule is roughly 3 to 6 months, though it could slip further.
  • Kook highlighted an unnamed defense-industry contact's claim that AST SpaceMobile's technology moat is protected by patent — the 'Micron sandwich' design lets every square foot of a satellite's array generate power and process signal simultaneously, something no competitor has replicated yet.
  • Kook devoted significant time to speculation that AI data centers could eventually be built in orbit to solve terrestrial power and cooling constraints, framing AST SpaceMobile — with the largest phased arrays in low Earth orbit — as uniquely positioned to benefit, while explicitly stating he assigns zero present value to this in his own investment thesis.
  • Kook argues SpaceX's strategy of vertically integrating all the way to the end customer (as with Tesla) makes it a fundamentally unreliable long-term partner for mobile network operators (MNOs), and predicts MNOs like T-Mobile and Deutsche Telekom will move away from exclusive Starlink partnerships toward carrier-neutral solutions like AST SpaceMobile.
  • T-Mobile's CFO gave an unusually critical public response to a question about Starlink, a marked shift from prior friendly commentary, which Kook and Anpanman interpret as a sign T-Mobile's roughly one-year Starlink contract may not be renewed exclusively.
  • Kook expects an AST SpaceMobile satellite launch within about two weeks of the episode, a further satellite batch shipment in early July 2026, and another launch before September 2026, though he frames these as his own estimates subject to typical space-industry slippage.

Detailed Discussion13 topics

Market Resilience and Weekend Recap

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook says he expected the market to open Sunday night with a 'total implosion of security prices' (a feared 'Black Monday') after a stressful week, but instead checked and found the market — and ASTS — were up, joking that feared negative catalysts ('King Tut's tweets') turned out to be overblown.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook frames his overall philosophy as 'focusing on the fundamentals' rather than reacting to short-term panic, e.g. geopolitical fears like a potential Israel-Iran strike, which he says shouldn't drive decisions to sell positions like the S&P 500.

Defense Industry Insider Buy Signals

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  • Kook Untagged 00:02:42

    Kook recounts meeting someone while camping who previously worked at an unnamed publicly traded rocket company and now works at an unnamed private defense company that relies heavily on connectivity for its systems.

  • Kook Rumor 00:02:42

    When Kook asked if the defense company uses AST SpaceMobile, the contact said even if they did, that kind of usage (e.g., for something like Golden Dome) would be so classified it wouldn't be knowable — described by Kook as 'inside information' in the sense that it's not meant to be known by outsiders, not in the sense of an SEC violation.

  • Kook Rumor 00:02:42

    Kook says he separately learned this defense company had experienced 'difficulties in partnership with SpaceX' that were later restored, which he compares to a similar dynamic he says the Pentagon experienced with SpaceX as an 'unstable yet critical path vendor' — framed as a reason such customers might seek a replacement/alternative partner.

  • Kook Rumor 00:02:42

    The contact told Kook that two of his managers at the defense company, plus a friend working at a larger, unnamed defense company 'that starts with a B,' had told him to buy AST SpaceMobile stock; Kook stresses these people don't have specific insider information but have 'uncommon insight' from working in the industry and seeing where trends (like AI, in the NVIDIA analogy) are headed.

Investment Philosophy: Secular Wave and 'Crazy Founder'

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  • Kook Speculation 00:06:32

    Kook reiterates his recurring framework for the ASTS thesis: identify a large secular wave plus a 'crazy founder' (i.e., Abel Avellan) with a vision others don't see who refuses to accept conventional wisdom that the vision can't succeed.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:32

    Kook acknowledges ASTS cannot be justified as cheap by conventional valuation metrics (e.g., P/E, 'Intelligent Investor'-style value investing) since it currently has little revenue, and says shorts are correct on that narrow point — but argues the thesis is about the secular trend and founder conviction rather than near-term valuation.

Blue Origin / New Glenn Recovery

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  • Kook Speculation 00:08:02

    Kook recaps last week's panic over the New Glenn 3/New Glenn 4 anomaly, saying initial reports suggest the delay 'is not as bad as feared,' estimating roughly a 3 to 6 month delay versus AST's original schedule, though he notes it could still end up more delayed than that.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:08:02

    Blue Origin stated publicly that it still plans to launch New Glenn again before year-end 2026; Kook says if that slips, it 'won't matter' by then because the market will have more forward-looking information about ASTS regardless.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:02

    Kook addresses misinformation from the prior week: comments from Jared Isaacman (initially misheard/misattributed as 'Jacob Keaton'/'Isaacson') that Blue Origin wouldn't launch until 2028 were taken out of context — Isaacman was actually referring to Blue Origin's lunar program, not New Glenn generally — and this was quickly corrected.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:08:02

    Kook describes Jeff Bezos personally on-site in a hard hat/safety coat in 'founder mode,' running 24/7 recovery operations, with NASA, Space Force, and the Trump administration signaling this is a priority; per the latest update from Blue Origin's David Limp, the propellant farm and water tower survived and can be repaired, three of the second stages are undamaged, and the booster survived reentry as well.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:08:02

    Blue Origin will not move directly to the larger 9x4 engine/booster configuration; it will continue with the current 7x2 configuration since that path is already validated, similar to how Kook says ASTS will keep its satellite production machine running rather than pause it.

  • Kook Speculation 00:08:02

    Kook describes a dynamic where alternate heavy-launch providers (he names MHI, ULA, ISRO) were reportedly eager to court AST SpaceMobile as a large customer immediately after the New Glenn anomaly, but that urgency eased somewhat once Blue Origin's recovery update came out; he views AST SpaceMobile's multi-launcher strategy (not relying on one provider) as a positive regardless.

  • Kook Rumor 00:08:02

    A contact who previously worked at a rocket company told Kook that New Glenn's tri-propellant engine is unusually difficult to build but very efficient, and that the failure was likely a process issue in how the hot-fire test was conducted, not a fundamental design flaw — Kook says he hopes this is correct and sees nothing suggesting the rocket is 'terminally flawed.'

Brazil Spectrum Authorization and the 'Aggregation Effect'

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:10:27

    ASTS announced it was authorized for 10 by 10 megahertz of spectrum in Brazil; Kook argues this kind of announcement is starting to feel routine but actually demonstrates an 'aggregation effect' — because AST SpaceMobile is the most efficient system, spectrum that would otherwise cost '$3, $5 billion or something' is instead being granted to the company as an enabler.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:27

    Kook predicts the market won't re-rate the stock day-to-day on incremental international spectrum wins like this, but that they are building toward a 'gradually, then suddenly' recognition event, comparing it to how Citadel's Ken Griffin built his market-making business quietly for years before a sudden, obvious dominance.

Short Seller Cognitive Dissonance

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  • Kook Speculation 00:13:32

    Citing a tweet from an account called 'Tech Investor,' Kook notes that in the roughly two months before this episode, ASTS had a satellite placed in the wrong orbit and its launch partner (Blue Origin/New Glenn) suffered a pad anomaly, yet the stock was up about 40% over that timeframe — which Kook argues should create cognitive dissonance for short sellers, since even a psychic short thesis based on those two negative events would have failed.

  • Kook Speculation 00:13:32

    Kook argues this pattern shows the market is looking through near-term setbacks to a bigger picture, and that the same dynamic can work in reverse for companies that 'over-earn' right before a business collapses (citing Blockbuster as an example).

China's Satellite Constellation Race

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  • Kook Speculation 00:21:57

    Kook notes China recently launched its Long March 12B rocket, which he says visually resembles a Falcon 9 and may use similar blueprints, reportedly carrying Starlink-shaped satellites (implying a Chinese Starlink-clone constellation); he frames this as evidence of a real global space race that argues for the US space industry to remove artificial barriers and coalesce to win.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:57

    Kook says Blue Origin remains in contention for the NSSL (national security launch) program as long as it stops experiencing launch failures.

  • Kook Speculation 00:21:57

    Kook cites a post noting ULA stacked its first (uncertain figure, possibly garbled) 'LEO-optimized Centaur 5 upper stage' for an Amazon mission, and says Vulcan — a vehicle he says will also carry AST SpaceMobile satellites, with capacity for roughly 5 satellites per launch (Kook's estimate) — is expected to return to service after July 2026.

The Micron Sandwich Patent

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  • Kook Speculation 00:25:37

    Referencing a post by an account called 'Leo Edge,' Kook explains AST's patented 'Micron sandwich' satellite design: solar cells on one side, heat-transfer components in the middle, and the RF/signal-processing electronics on the earth-facing side, so every square foot of the array does double duty (power generation and signal processing) — unlike most competing satellites, which use their area for either solar or communications, not both.

  • Kook Speculation 00:25:37

    Kook says no other company has replicated this design, and it's unclear whether that's due to patent protection or genuine technical difficulty; he ties this efficiency advantage to what he calls the 'Catseye theorem' — that spectrum flows to the most efficient system, citing the Brazil spectrum award as a supporting example.

AI Data Centers in Orbit

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  • Kook Speculation 00:28:42

    Kook says he's increasingly thinking about space-based AI data centers as a long-term (multi-trillion dollar) opportunity, citing a SpaceX video/comments describing space AI data centers as a 'no-brainer' race to power, since space offers abundant power without the terrestrial constraints of liquid cooling, grid buildout, and environmental impact from chip/precious-metal usage.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:42

    Kook explicitly states he currently assigns zero value to this opportunity in ASTS and would not pay for it today, but believes AST SpaceMobile 'owns' this business-development angle given it operates the largest phased arrays in low Earth orbit, framing it as a longer-term 'inflection of perception' rather than a near-term catalyst.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:42

    Kook compares this dynamic to Amazon Web Services, which the market ignored for years until Amazon broke out separate segment reporting (stock reportedly up about 11% that day) — arguing markets consistently misprice inflection points on day one, giving patient investors time to act.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:42

    Kook notes Marvell's CEO has called connectivity the 'next AI bottleneck,' and that Jensen Huang's comments reportedly moved Marvell's stock up about 50% quickly, questioning whether such large-cap reactions are becoming frothy.

SpaceX Vertical Integration and Risk to MNO Partnerships

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:36:37

    Kook references SpaceX's IPO roadshow-style investor deck, highlighting Elon Musk's stated strategy of building a flywheel — low-cost launch enabling new markets, which generates more launch demand and further cost reductions — combined with a core tenet of vertically integrating all the way to the end customer, as SpaceX/Tesla have done (e.g., Tesla owning battery manufacturing and selling direct-to-consumer, cutting out dealers).

  • Kook Speculation 00:36:37

    Kook argues Musk fundamentally does not respect 'dumb,' 'stodgy' partners like MNOs (comparing this to how he treated auto-parts suppliers and car dealers at Tesla) and will always seek to disintermediate them — joking that Musk has floated making a 'SpaceX phone.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:36:37

    Kook's view is that ASTS's moat holds as long as spectrum and end customers remain controlled by MNOs; the real risk to the thesis would be if SpaceX obtained its own low-band spectrum, built a phone, and had massive marketing resources, which he characterizes as a '20 or 30-year type of problem' unlikely within his investable time horizon.

  • Kook Speculation 00:36:37

    Citing an article shared by 'Alex from Babylon,' Kook argues private markets have been indiscriminately funding many space ventures, including satellite-bus manufacturers, and distinguishes those low-margin contract bus manufacturers (just engineering hours) from a company like ASTS with its own proprietary satellite system and commercial rent-capture model, which he expects to have far better margins, scalability, and enterprise value creation over time.

T-Mobile CFO and Shifting MNO Sentiment on Starlink

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:45:02

    Kook says Anpanman found a transcript of a talk in which T-Mobile's CFO responded to a question about Starlink with a sharply critical, 'full dressing down' tone — a marked departure from prior comments describing Starlink as a valuable, complementary partnership; Anpanman noted 'I've never seen T-Mobile respond like this about Starlink,' and Kook agrees.

  • Kook Speculation 00:45:02

    Kook interprets this shift as connected to T-Mobile and SpaceX's roughly one-year direct-to-cell contract nearing its end, predicting T-Mobile (and Deutsche Telekom) will move toward a carrier-neutral satellite solution — implicitly AST SpaceMobile — either dropping SpaceX outright or making the relationship non-exclusive.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:45:02

    Kook notes Oppenheimer downgraded AT&T citing increasing satellite competition, and argues Starlink's more immediate threat to MNOs is its fixed-wireless home broadband service competing directly for fiber/5G business, more than satellite-to-phone messaging.

  • Kook Speculation 00:45:02

    Kook references a tweet-thread response from Scott Powell critiquing Starlink's reliance on high-band spectrum, which requires a clear line of sight to the sky (e.g., doesn't work under tree cover), versus the BlueBird architecture's massive phased arrays, low-band spectrum, and beamforming, which Powell argues is specifically designed for strong, penetrating, high-capacity real mobile broadband.

Defense/Military Contract Signals

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  • Kook Speculation 00:48:37

    Kook notes that Jennifer Manner was 'liking posts' about MilSatCom (SDA-related programs), and that the SDA's Halo Europa contract — originally awarded in February — is resurfacing in social-media activity; Kook says he agrees with an account called Peter Lindmark that 'something is up,' speculating this could foreshadow new contract news.

  • Kook Rumor 00:48:37

    Kook mentions weekend posts (from an account he refers to as 'Katzi'/'Catsy') suggesting FM1 (BlueBird 6) is now operational and conducting radar-related activity, which he speculates could be connected to upcoming contract awards.

Upcoming Launch and Shipping Catalysts

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  • Kook Speculation 00:48:37

    Kook expects an AST SpaceMobile satellite launch within about the next two weeks from the episode date, followed by the next batch of satellites shipping in early July 2026 based on his own research/estimates, and a subsequent launch he expects before September 2026, while cautioning that space-industry timelines typically slip and he's assuming roughly August for the next shipment as a conservative guess.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:37

    Kook references the existing multi-launch agreement (MLA) with SpaceX, noted previously by 'Kevin Chen,' as the basis for a substantial upcoming cadence of satellite launches.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:37

    Kook says he hopes for news in the coming week about 'encapsulating batch 1' and a confirmed launch date.

Watch Items6

  • Blue Origin New Glenn return-to-flight

    Before year-end 2026 (per Blue Origin's stated target); Kook estimates a realistic 3-6 month delay versus AST's original schedule Kook 00:08:02
  • Next AST SpaceMobile satellite launch

    Expected within about two weeks of the episode (per Kook's estimate) Kook 00:48:37
  • Next satellite batch shipment

    Early July 2026 (Kook's estimate), with a subsequent launch expected before September 2026 Kook 00:48:37
  • ULA Vulcan return to service, expected to carry ASTS satellites

    After July 2026 Kook 00:21:57
  • T-Mobile/SpaceX direct-to-cell contract renewal decision

    Contract described as approximately one year, said to be nearing its end around the time of this episode Kook 00:45:02
  • Potential new SDA/military (Halo Europa-linked) contract announcement

    No specific date given; flagged as a possible near-term development based on resurfacing social media activity Kook 00:48:37

Open Questions4

  • Will Blue Origin actually get New Glenn back to flight before year-end 2026 as stated, or will the delay extend beyond the 3-6 months Kook estimates?

    Kook 00:08:02
  • Will T-Mobile and Deutsche Telekom drop SpaceX/Starlink outright, or simply make the partnership non-exclusive in favor of a carrier-neutral provider like AST SpaceMobile?

    Kook 00:45:02
  • Why is the SDA's previously awarded Halo Europa contract resurfacing in social media activity now, and does it signal new upcoming contract news?

    Kook 00:48:37
  • Will space-based AI data centers become a real, monetizable business line for AST SpaceMobile, and when might the market begin assigning it value?

    Kook 00:28:42
2026-06-03 42:12

AST SpaceMobile - How the SpaceX IPO Valuation Impacts the Space Sector

Anpanman

In a solo X Spaces recap, Anpanman breaks down a William Blair conference note in which AST SpaceMobile's Scott Wisniewski indicated commercial service could slip 3-6 months (to first half of 2027) following the Blue Origin New Glenn pad failure. Wisniewski also confirmed AST received Brazilian regulatory approval for 10x10 MHz of spectrum.

Anpanman spends much of the episode explaining Wall Street mechanics: Reg FD, selective disclosure at investor conferences, and why retail doesn't get IPO analyst projections. He uses them to argue the delay isn't surprising and that the company isn't ready to formalize guidance via 8-K while it's still lining up additional launch capacity.

The headline conclusion is that the delay is real but manageable given AST's $3B+ cash position, its expanding launch options (SpaceX, ULA, and potential new MLAs), and a bullish read on how the upcoming SpaceX IPO could re-rate the whole space sector, with AT&T/Verizon/T-Mobile's commitment to AST underscored by a same-day Oppenheimer note on Starlink competitive risk to telecom fiber/mobile business.

Key Takeaways

  • At a William Blair investor conference (a client-only, non-public event), AST SpaceMobile's Scott Wisniewski said the Blue Origin New Glenn launch failure could push AST's commercial service timeline back by an estimated 3 to 6 months, with commercial service now likely activating in the first half of 2027 and beta service still expected to start by the end of 2026.
  • Scott Wisniewski also disclosed that AST SpaceMobile received Brazilian regulatory approval for 10x10 MHz of spectrum usage, which Anpanman calls a significant milestone for the company's global direct-to-device ambitions.
  • Anpanman argues the company has not filed an 8-K or issued formal updated guidance because it is still actively negotiating additional launch capacity (potential multi-launch agreements with Relativity, Arianespace, and MHI) and isn't ready to commit to specifics, not because it's hiding bad news.
  • Wall Street mechanics explain why institutions sometimes learn material information (like conference remarks) before retail: Reg FD allows disclosures at investor conferences to be treated as adequately public once a research analyst publishes a note, even if that's a day later.
  • Anpanman notes AST has over $3 billion in cash, so there is no near-term need to dilute shareholders; the company's last billion-dollar convertible note was raised at less than 3% dilution, which he views favorably in hindsight given subsequent setbacks like the Blue Origin failure.
  • A same-day Oppenheimer analyst note downgraded AT&T due to its fiber broadband exposure to Starlink's fixed wireless threat, while flagging growing risk from Starlink Mobile as well — Anpanman uses this to argue all three major US carriers (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile) are motivated to stick with AST SpaceMobile as their satellite-to-phone answer to Starlink.
  • Anpanman expects the next Falcon 9 Bluebird launch to occur around June 16, 2026 (pushed back a day from an original June 15 estimate due to an unrelated Starlink mission delay), with an official target-date announcement likely around June 7-8 or the following Monday, based on the ~8-day lead time pattern seen before the first Block 1 launch.
  • AST is working to solve what Anpanman calls a launch capacity 'Rubik's Cube' by leaning more heavily on existing SpaceX Falcon 9 and ULA capacity while Blue Origin's New Glenn returns to service, and could potentially pull forward already-scheduled SpaceX launches at an estimated extra cost of $5-10 million per launch.
  • The SpaceX IPO roadshow was set to begin the Thursday following this episode, and Anpanman expects a broad space-sector rally into and around the IPO, followed by a cooling-off/consolidation period, given similar smaller space companies (Momentus and others) have already used stock run-ups to raise capital.

Detailed Discussion6 topics

William Blair Conference: Commercial Service Delay

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:00

    Scott Wisniewski attended the William Blair investor conference, which is a client-only forum (requires being a William Blair high-net-worth or institutional client to attend), sometimes but not always webcast depending on the investment bank.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:00

    Scott was asked directly what impact the Blue Origin New Glenn launch failure would have on the timing of AST's commercial service launch. He reiterated there will be a handful of launches over the remainder of the year aside from Blue Origin.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:00

    Per the William Blair note quoting Scott, he estimated commercial service could see a 3 to 6 month delay, which Anpanman says makes sense given one of AST's primary launch vehicles is out of commission for 6-8 months.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:00

    The note states commercial service will likely be activated in the first half of 2027, with beta expected to start at the end of this year (2026); beta would probably require roughly 20 to 25 satellites in orbit.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:00

    AST received approval from Brazil for 10x10 MHz of spectrum usage — described by Anpanman as a big piece of news he hadn't yet published, giving AST dedicated spectrum allocation to utilize in Brazil.

Wall Street Mechanics: Reg FD, Selective Disclosure, and Why No 8-K Yet

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:00

    Some investors on Twitter complained the company selectively disclosed the delay/Brazil news at a conference instead of via public 8-K. Anpanman explains that under Reg FD, if a company discloses something material at an investment-bank conference and a research analyst publishes it later (even a day later), that is considered adequate dissemination — 'that's just how Wall Street works.'

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:00

    As an analogy, in IPOs retail investors never see company projections directly — only historical financials via the S-1. Company management gives internal projections to sell-side analysts before the IPO, analysts build (and typically haircut/sandbag) models, and only about 30 days after the IPO, when the analyst initiates coverage, does the public learn the estimates. Institutional clients get analyst estimates via sales reps ahead of that public disclosure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Anpanman argues Scott was asked a direct question on the spot and answered honestly; he believes the company isn't ready to formalize guidance via 8-K yet because it's still working on assigning additional launch capacity and possibly signing new multi-launch agreements (MLAs) — an update might come when the company names a target launch date for BB-8, 9, and 10.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Anpanman states his personal guess is that the company's prior BB-45 (satellite count) 'stretch goal' target will drift into the first half or first quarter of next year, but stresses this is only his own guess, not company guidance.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:00

    Anpanman notes AST SpaceMobile stopped responding to written retail investor email questions after an incident years ago where a retail investor screenshotted an IR response and later publicly accused an executive of 'lying' when circumstances (and the plan) had simply changed months later.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:00

    He references 'BIA' analysis (a body-language/interview-technique training used by hedge fund analysts, similar to training used by CIA operatives) as a tool investors use in one-on-one management meetings to read what's being said and not said, noting this was a concept Kook has referenced previously.

Competitive Landscape: Oppenheimer's AT&T Downgrade and Starlink Threat

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:00

    An Oppenheimer analyst note published the same day downgraded AT&T, citing its heavy fiber and 5G home-broadband exposure to Starlink's growing fixed-wireless competitive threat, while also flagging Starlink Mobile as an emerging threat; the note suggested Verizon and T-Mobile as lower-risk alternatives.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Anpanman disagrees with fully isolating AT&T, noting all three major carriers (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile) have fixed-wireless and mobile exposure to Starlink, which is why T-Mobile is shifting toward AST SpaceMobile — he argues this underscores why none of the three carriers will ultimately work with Starlink and why AST is their chosen bet.

Launch Manifest: Solving the 'Rubik's Cube' After the Blue Origin Mishap

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    AST has a baseline of Falcon 9 and some ULA Centaur launches and is working to add more capacity while waiting for Blue Origin New Glenn to return; Anpanman guesses the company will sign new MLAs with Relativity, MHI, and Arianespace (existing MLAs are already in place with ISRO, SpaceX, and Blue Origin, but not yet with ULA, Relativity, Arianespace, MHI, or Rocket Lab).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Regarding the next Falcon 9 launch, due diligence had suggested June 15, but that may slip one day to June 16 because a same-day Starlink mission was delayed by weather; the last Block 1 launch date was announced 8 days in advance, so an announcement is expected around June 7-8 or the following Monday.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:00

    By contrast, the ISRO LVM-3 launch of BlueBird 6 was announced roughly 2-4 weeks in advance, though satellite integration delays meant the effective notice was closer to two weeks.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:00

    Anpanman disputes the initial media narrative that Blue Origin's launch pad wouldn't be rebuilt for 18 months to 2 years, or that Blue Origin would abandon the current 7x2 New Glenn config for a Super Heavy 9x4 version — he says those predictions were wrong and 'overblown.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    If Blue Origin says it will launch again before year-end 2026, Anpanman's guess is the real date probably lands in January or February 2027, since 'space things take time'; SLC-36A pad construction progress (cranes clearing debris) will be visible and trackable.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Anpanman estimates that by year-end 2026, Blue Origin will likely have about 3 completed boosters (Glenn Stage 1 units 4 and 5, referred to as GS1-4/GS1-5) and upper stages numbered into the high teens/low 20s, meaning the launch pad itself — not booster/upper-stage supply — is the real bottleneck.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    He frames a strategic tradeoff for AST: buy down (pull forward) roughly 15 SpaceX launches now at an estimated cost of about $60-70 million total, versus waiting 1-2 months to see Blue Origin's pad progress before committing further capital, noting the market likely rewards both near-term launch certainty and optionality.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Regarding a prior SEC filing referencing prepayments for 10 launches, Anpanman clarifies this is Space Mob speculation, not company confirmation — such prepayments do not necessarily mean all 10 launches occur within the next 6 months; some could span into next year's Q1/Q2.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    He raises the possibility that AST could pay SpaceX an incremental $5-10 million per launch to pull forward already-scheduled future launches, which the company would weigh economically before deciding.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Anpanman expects the next batch of Bluebird satellites (Block 2, following BlueBird 6/7) to ship in the next 2-3 weeks (potentially by end of June) in order to make a July Falcon 9 launch, based on an estimated ~3-week satellite-to-rocket integration timeline.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    In response to an audience question about NSSL (National Security Space Launch), Anpanman says it's a possibility given AST's ongoing defense-side work — if AST wins a significant defense contract deemed important to national interests, it could gain priority access ('front of the line') for Falcon 9 and ULA launches.

SpaceX IPO and Space Sector Valuation Psychology

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:00

    The SpaceX IPO roadshow was set to kick off the Thursday following this episode. Anpanman explains the typical IPO price-range mechanics: banks set an initial valuation range, then raise it during the roadshow based on investor demand (he gives illustrative, hypothetical figures like $1.5-1.75 trillion rising toward $2+ trillion, explicitly noting he's 'just making it up' as an example, not citing actual SpaceX figures), building momentum into pricing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Anpanman expects a broad space-sector rally into and around the SpaceX IPO, followed by a cooling-off/consolidation period, though he's uncertain whether pullbacks will be 10-20% or just a few percent.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:00

    He notes several smaller space companies have already raised capital on the back of rallying stock prices — citing Momentus and other small-caps, plus Intuitive Machines announcing a new ATM the same day, and Virgin Galactic retiring debt via a stock issuance that caused its shares to drop the prior day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    On the idea that investors might sell existing space holdings (including AST) to buy SpaceX at the IPO, Anpanman says he personally is not doing so and considers himself a long-term holder who isn't trading around the IPO; he says he's not interested in owning SpaceX given his lack of enthusiasm for the X/xAI exposure that comes bundled with it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Asked whether EchoStar (SATS) benefits from the SpaceX IPO, Anpanman says yes if the IPO goes well (and it would suffer if the IPO goes poorly), given EchoStar sold spectrum to SpaceX in exchange for stock; he flags concern about EchoStar management (Charlie Ergen and a colleague referred to as Hamid) potentially turning the company into an investment vehicle post-monetization, which is why the sum-of-the-parts trades at a discount.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:00

    Anpanman notes broader macro headwinds are also weighing on markets: a possible 2-month extension with Iran to negotiate uranium removal, and new Trump administration tariffs replacing ones struck down by the Supreme Court that morning.

Balance Sheet and Dilution Outlook

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Asked if AST will dilute shareholders in coming months to pay for additional SpaceX launches, Anpanman says no near-term need since the company has over $3 billion in cash.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    If the stock reaches $150-200, Anpanman believes management would likely raise more capital opportunistically, noting the last billion-dollar convertible note was done at what he recalls as under 3% dilution — he calls this a good move in hindsight given subsequent events like the Blue Origin mishap.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    He recalls (with some uncertainty, saying 'was it like $96?') that the recent convertible note was priced around a $96 conversion price with a conversion premium bringing it to roughly $120.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:00

    Asked if AST will issue another ATM given the delay, Anpanman says it would be smart to have one in place as a backup, but guesses the company likely won't do so near-term since it already has ample cash; he speculates a new ATM is more likely near Q4 2026 if launches proceed smoothly and the stock is trading around $150-200.

Watch Items7

  • Next Falcon 9 Bluebird launch and its official target-date announcement

    Launch expected around June 16, 2026 (pushed back a day from a June 15 estimate); announcement expected around June 7-8, 2026 or the following Monday, based on an 8-day pre-launch announcement pattern Anpanman 00:00:00
  • Shipment/integration of the next batch of Bluebird satellites for a July Falcon 9 launch

    Needs to ship within 2-3 weeks of the episode (potentially by end of June 2026) to make a July 2026 launch, given an estimated ~3-week integration timeline Anpanman 00:00:00
  • Blue Origin New Glenn pad (SLC-36A) rebuild progress and next launch

    Blue Origin has stated it aims to launch again before end of 2026; Anpanman's own guess is more likely January-February 2027 Anpanman 00:00:00
  • AST commercial service and beta timeline shift

    Beta expected to start end of 2026; commercial service now expected first half of 2027 due to a 3-6 month delay Anpanman 00:00:00
  • SpaceX IPO roadshow and pricing

    Roadshow set to begin the Thursday following the episode; pricing expected roughly a week later Anpanman 00:00:00
  • Potential formal company guidance update (8-K or similar) on launch/commercial-service timeline

    Unspecified — Anpanman expects it once the company finalizes launch capacity plans, possibly tied to naming a target launch date for BB-8, 9, and 10 Anpanman 00:00:00
  • Possible new AST ATM equity program

    Anpanman guesses unlikely near-term, more plausible around Q4 2026 if the stock is trading at $150-200 Anpanman 00:00:00

Open Questions7

  • Exactly how long will the commercial-service delay end up being — closer to 2-3 months or 4-6 months?

    Anpanman 00:00:00
  • Will AST choose to pull forward (buy down) additional SpaceX launches at an incremental cost of roughly $5-10 million per launch, or wait to see how quickly Blue Origin's pad gets rebuilt?

    Anpanman 00:00:00
  • Will AST sign new multi-launch agreements with Relativity, Arianespace, and/or MHI, and on what timeline?

    Anpanman 00:00:00
  • When will AST formally update the market (via 8-K or otherwise) on its revised launch and commercial-service timeline?

    Anpanman 00:00:00
  • Will AST secure a National Security Space Launch (NSSL) designation that could grant it launch-queue priority?

    Anpanman 00:00:00
  • How will the broader space sector, and AST specifically, trade after the SpaceX IPO prices — will there be a meaningful pullback, and how large?

    Anpanman 00:00:00
  • Will AST put a new ATM equity program in place given the delay, and if so, when?

    Anpanman 00:00:00
2026-06-02 51:15

Anpanman - The End of Smash-and-Grab

Anpanman

In this solo episode published June 2, 2026, Anpanman rebuts the wave of media FUD that followed the Blue Origin New Glenn pad explosion, arguing that reporters like Eric Berger overstated the damage and delay timeline.

He highlights that AST SpaceMobile's launch-agnostic Block 2 satellite design (an integrated LVA 'donut' shell) lets it flex across many launch vehicles as insurance against exactly this kind of setback.

He also covers Andrew Left/Citron's guilty verdict for stock manipulation as a watershed moment against 'smash-and-grab' short sellers, and closes with a bullish aside on Texas solar growth relevant to T1 Energy.

The headline conclusion: Blue Origin's mishap and short-seller attacks are near-term noise against AST's long-term, multi-vehicle launch strategy and roughly $750B+ TAM.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman argues that journalists (notably Eric Berger of Ars Technica) and other commentators spread inaccurate 'FUD' after the Blue Origin New Glenn pad explosion, including false claims that Kennedy Space Center was completely down, that propellant was leaking and damage cascaded to other pads, and that no SpaceX or ULA launches could occur — all of which were contradicted when SpaceX launched Starlink rockets that same morning and evening and ULA launched an Atlas Centaur that evening carrying Amazon LEO (Kuiper) satellites.
  • Some commentators, including Eric Berger, speculated New Glenn's pad rebuild could take 18 months to 2 years, with more 'optimistic doom maxers' saying 1 to 1.5 years; Blue Origin CEO Dave Limp instead stated the long-pole damaged items were not severe enough to require a full rebuild and set an aggressive target of launching again by the end of 2026.
  • Anpanman says he has heard from multiple sources (people at the company plus cross-referencing) that the Trump administration and NASA have given full support to Blue Origin's rebuild, including a reported call between Trump and Jeff Bezos, reflecting Blue Origin's role in national-security launches and moon/Mars programs.
  • Jared Isaacman was misquoted by CNBC as saying the pad wouldn't be rebuilt until 2028; he corrected this publicly on Twitter/X.
  • Eric Berger claimed within an hour of the explosion that Blue Origin would skip the 7x2 New Glenn configuration entirely and jump to 9x4 — Anpanman calls this illogical given existing paying missions on 7x2 and boosters already built or in production (booster 4 due mid-to-late summer 2026, booster 5 due fall/early winter 2026), plus Bezos's own tour comment implying roughly 11 second stages already produced or in production.
  • AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 satellite design integrates the launch vehicle adapter (LVA) as a permanent 'donut ring' part of the satellite itself (rather than a discarded fairing/casing), eliminating deorbit/space-debris requirements and making the satellite launch-agnostic — able to fly on Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, New Glenn, ISRO LVM-3, Ariane 6, Vulcan Centaur, and other vehicles.
  • Anpanman contrasts AST's vertically integrated, in-house satellite manufacturing (allowing rapid design iteration, as with the Block 1-to-Block 2 pivot) against ViaSat, which he says claims to be vertically integrated but outsources satellite construction to primes like Boeing and Lockheed, resulting in satellites delivered 3-5 years late and one satellite becoming inoperable ('bricked') in orbit.
  • AST's near-term commercial satellite launch cadence: a batch of satellites (BB8 through BB10) targeted for mid-June 2026, with a firmer target launch date expected by the end of that week, followed by a second batch ('batch 2') targeted for early July 2026 — together doubling the number of AST commercial satellites in orbit within about two months.
  • Anpanman expects the company's previously stated stretch goal of 45 satellites in orbit by year-end 2026 will likely be pushed out toward Q1 2027 given Blue Origin delays, though he frames a few months' slip as immaterial against AST's roughly $750 billion commercial TAM (and over $1 trillion including military/government use cases).
  • Anpanman advocates AST sign additional launch service agreements (MLAs) with providers like Ariane, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI), and Relativity Space to build 'optionality' on top of a baseline of Falcon 9 and ULA Vulcan Centaur launches, arguing this reduces single-provider risk after the New Glenn setback.
  • Andrew Left, founder of short-selling firm Citron Research, was found guilty of stock manipulation (pump-and-dump); Bloomberg reported prosecutors presented emails showing he coordinated short ideas with other hedge funds and bragged that his 'hot voice' with retail investors meant he could 'take candy from a baby.'
  • Anpanman recounts that Andrew Left/Citron pumped AST SpaceMobile in 2021 by tweeting a bullish valuation comparison to other space companies while long the stock, said he would publish a supportive report, then sold his position as the stock rallied and later said he would not publish a report after all.
  • Anpanman distinguishes 'smash-and-grab' short sellers (quick sensational reports designed to drop a stock 20-30% so the seller can cover for a fast profit) from fundamental, long-term activist short sellers like David Einhorn (vs. Lehman Brothers) or Bill Ackman (vs. Herbalife), who commit to a thesis over time.
  • Anpanman names Kerrisdale Capital (targeted AST SpaceMobile in 2022), Spruce Point (targeted Genius Sports), Culper Research (published a report on T1 Energy in January 2026), and Fuzzy Panda (published a report on T1 Energy roughly a month before this episode) as examples of smash-and-grab short sellers he has dealt with directly.
  • Anpanman argues the Andrew Left guilty verdict is a 'shot across the bow' that may curb aggressive, unsubstantiated short-seller claims (e.g., claiming a company is worth zero or fraudulent) industry-wide.
  • Anpanman credits crowdsourced due diligence within the AST SpaceMobile retail investor community ('SpaceMob') with leveling the information asymmetry against institutional short sellers, saying retail investors sometimes know material information before institutions do.
  • Anpanman pushes back on critics who call the AST SpaceMobile retail community pump-and-dumpers, noting he and Kook have held the stock long-term (5-6 years) through a decline to roughly $2 without ever selling/dumping; Anpanman states his own cost basis was around $1.80.
  • Citing a post by Doug Lewin, Anpanman notes Texas added 10 gigawatts of power capacity in the last 7 months, with the breakdown given as roughly 4,243 megawatts from solar, 1,515 megawatts from natural gas/diesel, 148 megawatts from wind, and storage cited around 4.9 (unit as stated, likely gigawatts) — framing solar as the primary near-term dispatchable power solution for AI data center demand.
  • T1 Energy's solar module manufacturing plant is located in Dallas and its solar cell fabrication facility is being built in Austin, positioning the company within this Texas solar growth trend; Anpanman says he hopes for an update on T1 Energy's financing package 'in the next few weeks' to remove an overhang on the stock.

Detailed Discussion4 topics

Blue Origin New Glenn mishap and media FUD

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    After the Blue Origin mishap/explosion of New Glenn and destruction of the launch pad, a number of respected industry journalists and pundits, including Eric Berger, made claims Anpanman says were stated as fact rather than speculation; Anpanman has found Berger's past reporting on Blue Origin to be wrong before (citing 2024/2025 claims he cross-referenced with AST SpaceMobile management and was told were incorrect).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Some commentators claimed Kennedy Space Center was completely down, that propellant was leaking through lines, that damage cascaded into other pads, and that there would be no SpaceX or ULA launches; this was proven wrong when SpaceX launched a Starlink rocket that same morning and again that evening, and ULA launched an Atlas Centaur that evening carrying Amazon LEO (Kuiper) satellites the next day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Eric Berger and others suggested the pad rebuild could take 18 months to 2 years, with more optimistic 'doom maxers' saying 1 to 1.5 years.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Eric Berger claimed within the first hour after the explosion that Blue Origin sources told him the company would skip the 7x2 New Glenn configuration and move straight to 9x4 — Anpanman calls this illogical given a full manifest of paying missions on 7x2 and boosters already completed or nearly so (booster with 2 successful flights/returns already, booster 4 expected mid-to-late summer, booster 5 expected fall/early winter), plus Bezos's tour comment about working on the 15th second stage implying ~11 already produced or in production.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:07

    Blue Origin CEO Dave Limp gave a market update after assessing the damage, stating that a decent number of long-pole items were not damaged badly enough to require rebuilding, and that the company is targeting a launch by year-end 2026 — an aggressive goal Anpanman says should be taken with a grain of salt, similar to a motivational rallying-cry target.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:07

    Anpanman says multiple sources at the company and cross-referenced accounts indicate the Trump administration has given full support to Blue Origin's rebuild, including a reported call between Trump and Jeff Bezos, and that NASA is fully behind the effort, given Blue Origin's role in national-security launches and moon/Mars missions.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Jared Isaacman was misquoted by CNBC as saying the pad wouldn't be completed until 2028; Isaacman corrected this publicly on Twitter/X.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman argues against pundits speculating SpaceX would retire Falcon 9 once Starship reaches regular cadence, saying Falcon 9 remains a profitable, in-demand program and that vehicle diversity is valuable in case any one vehicle is grounded by an FAA investigation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman names Tim Ferriss and 'Pierre Leonet' (described as 'the Space Economist') as examples of what he calls FUD merchants who manufacture negative narratives; note this attribution/spelling may reflect transcription uncertainty.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:07

    Reflecting on why space hardware is unforgiving compared to Earth-based manufacturing, Anpanman notes BlueBird 7 was lost because — per rumors he's heard — certain bolts weren't properly tightened, causing one BE-3 engine to fail to ignite during the relight needed for the second (circularization) burn.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:07

    As an example of single-vehicle dependency risk, Anpanman cites a new space station company ('Starlab') paying SpaceX a $90 million contract to launch on Starship using a bespoke fairing, along with StarCloud, both fully dependent on Starship becoming commercially operational.

AST SpaceMobile's launch-agnostic Block 2 satellite design

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    AST SpaceMobile designed its satellites from inception to be launch-agnostic; originally the Block 1/BlueWalker 3 design used a control bus in the center unfolding like a flower, but the company realized the launch vehicle adapter (LVA) casing needed to be deorbited (requiring propellant and navigation systems) to avoid space junk, prompting a redesign.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    The company pivoted to the Block 2 design, where the LVA becomes a permanent donut-ring-shaped part of the satellite itself (housing the control bus, with a tail), eliminating any discarded material in orbit; Anpanman notes FUDster Tim Farrar predicted this new design wouldn't get FCC approval or fly for another two years, which he says was wrong.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Because the Block 2 satellite fits essentially any launch vehicle (Soyuz, Relativity Terran, Rocket Lab Neutron, Blue Origin New Glenn, SpaceX Falcon 9/Falcon Heavy, ISRO LVM-3, Ariane 6/5, ULA Vulcan Centaur), this launch-agnostic design functions as an insurance policy against exactly the kind of single-provider setback caused by the New Glenn pad explosion.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:07

    Anpanman contrasts AST's vertically integrated, in-house manufacturing approach — which allows fast iteration when problems are found — against ViaSat, which he says claims to be vertically integrated in earnings calls but outsources satellite construction to primes Boeing and Lockheed, resulting in satellites delivered roughly 3 to 5 years late, with one satellite becoming inoperable ('bricked') after launch.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:07

    Anpanman references past comments from Scott Wisniewski that 'you cannot build through purchase order' — problems found during satellite construction must be corrected quickly in-house, which isn't possible when relying on prime contractors.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:07

    AST's near-term launch cadence: BlueBirds BB8 through BB10 are targeted to launch around mid-June 2026, with a firmer target date expected by the end of that week; a second batch ('batch 2') is targeted for early July 2026, together doubling AST's in-orbit commercial satellite count within about two months.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman expects the company will likely need to update or push out its previously stated stretch goal of 45 satellites in orbit by year-end 2026, possibly into Q1 2027, given Blue Origin New Glenn delays; he frames a few months' slip as immaterial against AST's roughly $750 billion commercial TAM (over $1 trillion including military/other use cases).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman advocates that AST sign additional launch services agreements (MLAs) with providers such as Ariane, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI), and Relativity Space to build launch 'optionality' on top of a Falcon 9/ULA Vulcan Centaur baseline, noting Ariane and Vulcan Centaur are largely booked with government payloads that often slip, creating openings AST could step into; he also notes NSSL-designated missions get priority queue placement.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman notes Relativity Space, now under new leadership including Eric Schmidt, plans to test its Terran R vehicle before the end of 2026, which if successful could open further launch optionality for AST, though a successful test doesn't guarantee near-term commercial cadence.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman notes the company has over $3 billion of cash and a large market cap, arguing it's worth paying a premium for additional guaranteed Falcon 9 launch slots to lock in launch cadence certainty for the market.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman expects the company to stop holding large in-person launch events for every mission (given increasing launch frequency) in favor of less frequent celebratory events, roughly once every other month.

Andrew Left / Citron conviction and smash-and-grab short sellers

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Andrew Left, founder of activist short-selling firm Citron Research, was found guilty of manipulating stock prices via pump-and-dump tactics on both the long and short side.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Per a Bloomberg excerpt cited by Anpanman, prosecutors presented emails showing Andrew Left coordinated with other hedge funds on stocks he planned to short and bragged that his 'hot voice' with retail investors meant they could 'take candy from a baby.'

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    In 2021, Andrew Left tweeted a bullish valuation case for AST SpaceMobile (arguing it should be worth as much as other space companies) while already long the stock; the stock rallied, he said he would publish a supportive report, then sold his position, and roughly two weeks later said he would not be issuing a report after all.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman distinguishes 'smash-and-grab' short sellers — who publish sensational reports (sometimes very long, e.g. 300 pages, to appear credible) designed to drop a stock 20-30% so they can quickly cover a short position or put options — from fundamental, long-term activist short sellers like David Einhorn (vs. Lehman Brothers' toxic assets) or Bill Ackman (vs. Herbalife), who commit to a thesis over years regardless of near-term outcome.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Anpanman recounts personally dealing with several smash-and-grab short reports as a long-term AST SpaceMobile investor: Kerrisdale Capital targeted AST in 2022; Spruce Point targeted Genius Sports (which he also held after its de-SPAC); and for T1 Energy, Culper Research published a report in January 2026 and Fuzzy Panda published one roughly a month before this episode.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman notes Fuzzy Panda's report disclaimers state they may immediately cover their position and lock in profits after publishing, which he argues is a legal cover that doesn't change the underlying predatory dynamic.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman argues the Andrew Left guilty verdict is a watershed, 'shot across the bow' moment that should curb the most aggressive tactics of smash-and-grab short sellers, including baseless claims that a company is worth zero or is fraudulent.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman credits the AST SpaceMobile retail investor community ('SpaceMob') with leveling information asymmetry against institutions through deep crowdsourced due diligence, sometimes learning material information before institutional investors do, which he says makes smash-and-grab tactics less effective against this stock specifically.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:07

    Responding to critics who call the AST SpaceMobile retail community pump-and-dumpers, Anpanman notes he and Kook have held the stock for 5-6 years without ever selling ('dumping'), including riding it down to roughly $2 per share; Anpanman states his own cost basis was around $1.80.

Texas solar growth and T1 Energy

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:07

    Citing a post by Doug Lewin, Anpanman notes Texas added 10 gigawatts of power capacity in the last 7 months, with most of it dispatchable; the cited breakdown was storage around 4.9 (unit as stated), solar 4,243 megawatts, natural gas/diesel 1,515 megawatts, and wind 148 megawatts.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman frames solar as the near-term backbone for meeting AI data center power demand on Earth while the industry works toward space-based compute, noting T1 Energy's solar module manufacturing plant is in Dallas and its solar cell fabrication facility is being built in Austin, both within the fast-growing Texas solar buildout.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:07

    Anpanman says he hopes for an update on T1 Energy's financing package in the next few weeks, which he believes would remove an overhang currently weighing on the stock.

Watch Items6

  • AST BlueBird satellites BB8-BB10 launch

    Targeted mid-June 2026; firmer target date expected by end of that week Anpanman 00:00:07
  • AST second batch of satellite launches ('batch 2')

    Targeted early July 2026 Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Blue Origin New Glenn return-to-flight after pad explosion

    Targeted by year-end 2026 per Dave Limp, described as an aggressive/stretch goal Anpanman 00:00:07
  • AST's stretch goal of 45 satellites in orbit

    Previously targeted year-end 2026; Anpanman expects possible slip to Q1 2027 Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Relativity Space Terran R test launch

    Planned before the end of 2026 Anpanman 00:00:07
  • T1 Energy financing package update

    Anpanman hopes for an update in the next few weeks (from June 2, 2026) Anpanman 00:00:07

Open Questions5

  • Will Blue Origin actually meet its aggressive year-end 2026 target to return New Glenn to flight after the pad explosion?

    Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Will AST SpaceMobile sign additional launch service agreements (MLAs) with providers like Ariane, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, and Relativity Space to build out launch optionality?

    Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Will AST SpaceMobile formally update its year-end 2026 satellite count guidance (previously 45 satellites) given the Blue Origin New Glenn delay?

    Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Will smash-and-grab short sellers like Fuzzy Panda change their tactics or tone following the Andrew Left/Citron guilty verdict?

    Anpanman 00:00:07
  • Will T1 Energy's financing package update remove the stock's current overhang?

    Anpanman 00:00:07