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2026-02-12 1:12:28

Anpanman - AST SpaceMobile's $4 Billion War Chest: AI, Defense, and the Spectrum Land Grab

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In this solo AST SpaceMobile Podcast episode published February 12, 2026, Anpanman breaks down the company's overnight $1.15 billion 10-year convertible note offering, announced after market close.

He interprets its new 'use of proceeds' language as signaling a pivot toward AI/orbital-data-center opportunities, accelerated global spectrum deployment, and expanded government/defense work.

He argues the raise is minimally dilutive (about 3.4%), pushes pro forma cash to roughly $4 billion, and positions AST as the financially dominant 'partner of choice' for mobile carriers worldwide, especially as SpaceX appears distracted by internal xAI turmoil.

He closes with a review of FY2025 revenue/cash disclosures, hedging mechanics expected to pressure the stock the next day, and a philosophical defense of raising capital ahead of catalysts rather than after them.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile announced an overnight $1 billion (up to $1.15 billion with a $150 million over-allotment option) 10-year convertible note offering after market close, with Anpanman citing a roughly 2% coupon and 20% conversion premium (implying a conversion price near $115/share off the $96 close) — final terms were still pending pricing at the time of the episode.
  • Anpanman estimates total potential dilution from this raise plus retirement of older convertible notes at about 12.6 million shares, or roughly 3.4% of the 369 million shares outstanding, which he calls minimal for a company he says now carries a $36 billion market cap (versus $700-800 million in April 2024).
  • The company's use-of-proceeds language changed materially from its prior (October) convert offering, newly adding 'monetizing the capabilities of our proprietary technology to capture the evolving commercial opportunities related to artificial intelligence' — which Anpanman reads as a deliberate signal toward orbital data centers/edge compute.
  • Pro forma cash following the raise and use of the existing ATM program is estimated at about $4 billion, up from $2.8 billion in cash and equivalents as of December 31, 2025.
  • AST SpaceMobile pre-announced FY2025 revenue of approximately $63-71 million, within its previously guided $50-75 million range, and adjusted operating expenses (excluding stock-based compensation) of roughly $263-275 million.
  • Anpanman frames the successful full unfolding of Bluebird 6 (Block 2, the largest phased array ever deployed in low Earth orbit) as proof the satellite can generate on the order of 100 kilowatts of power (possibly ~120 kW with the solar tail, by his own and others' speculation), which he argues opens the door to high-power applications like AI compute well beyond the company's original direct-to-device messaging use case.
  • Anpanman argues that turmoil at SpaceX/xAI (reported co-founder departures, restructuring, and unverified reports of large layoffs, plus an unconfirmed report that xAI is burning about $1 billion per month) is a competitive tailwind for AST SpaceMobile, since it could distract SpaceX engineering resources and capital away from its Direct-to-Cell service.
  • The company is retiring older debt as part of this transaction: using $50 million of cash to retire the remaining roughly $50 million face value of its 4.25% convertible notes, and issuing $250 million of stock (about 2.6 million shares at the $96 close) to retire a portion of its 2.375% convertible notes, of which $575 million remains outstanding.
  • Anpanman expects the stock to trade heavy in the near term due to convertible-arbitrage hedging (potentially 4-4.5 million shares of short-selling pressure), but notes AST's stock held up relatively well the day of the announcement compared to a broadly weak space sector (e.g., Intuitive Machines -9%, Karman -13%, Rocket Lab -3.4%, Firefly about -10%).

Detailed Discussion14 topics

The Overnight $1.15 Billion Convertible Note Offering

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The company announced this evening, after market close, an overnight $1 billion 10-year convertible note offering (paper), with a $150 million over-allotment option that would bring the total to $1.15 billion if exercised; Anpanman expects it will be exercised assuming demand and stock performance hold up.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman states he believes the coupon is 2% and the conversion premium is about 20%, meaning if priced off today's $96 close, the conversion price would be roughly $115/share — he flags this as not yet fully confirmed, noting deal terms would be finalized and priced the following day.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The deal was marketed on a 'drive-by' basis: investors were brought 'over the wall' confidentially, given roughly a 20-minute marketing call, with books closing at 5pm and pricing expected the next day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman frames the ability to raise $1.15 billion via a same-day 'drive-by' deal as evidence AST has become a seasoned issuer with a deep convertible-investor base, which he says also paves the way for the company to eventually access straight high-yield debt/bank loan markets.

Dilution Math

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Retiring existing convertible notes could require issuing up to about 2.6 million shares for $250 million of converts being retired; combined with up to 9.98 million shares potentially issuable from the new convert (if fully in the money), total potential issuance is about 12.6 million shares.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Against 369 million shares outstanding, 12.6 million potential new shares equates to about 3.4% dilution, which Anpanman calls 'really tiny,' comparing it to the company's $36 billion current market cap versus a $760 million (elsewhere stated as $700-800 million) market cap in April 2024.

Use of Proceeds: New Filing Language

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman contrasts the new use-of-proceeds language with the prior October convert offering's language, which stated proceeds would fund 'the deployment of AST SpaceMobile's worldwide constellation of satellites and in anticipation of adding incremental strategic markets for its Space Mobile service.'

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The new use-of-proceeds language lists five items: accelerating deployment of controlled spectrum bands globally; monetizing proprietary technology for AI commercial opportunities; enhancing investment in government space opportunities in the U.S.; reducing higher-interest debt; and pursuing opportunistic investments to accelerate SpaceMobile service and capabilities. Anpanman says he was told this specific wording was very deliberate.

Spectrum Acceleration Strategy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says AST's primary controlled global spectrum is its Ligado L-band spectrum in the US (and Canada), which he describes as 25 MHz of dedicated, unencumbered spectrum with no terrestrial service using it, meaning it can be lit up everywhere (not just dead zones) and used to help carriers like Verizon, AT&T, and Bell Canada offload network traffic.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman identifies three avenues for AST to acquire additional L-band/S-band spectrum globally: (1) partnerships, citing Saudi Telecom (stc), which already holds about 60 MHz of L-band spectrum in Saudi Arabia (30 MHz down/30 MHz up) that AST could light up via its 10-year commercial deal and $175 million prepayment; (2) regulatory allocation processes; and (3) acquisitions in a fragmented global L/S-band market.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman cites a same-day article in which Orange and Deutsche Telekom, key contributors to the EU's IRIS-2 satellite constellation, expressed doubt the constellation will get off the ground or perform comparably to Starlink, which he interprets as IRIS-2 'starting to fall apart' ahead of the EU's 2 GHz S-band spectrum reallocation process expected in 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman speculates that in the 2027 EU spectrum reallocation, existing 2 GHz S-band holders EchoStar and Viasat are unlikely to retain allocations, and that AST SpaceMobile (via its SatCo joint venture with Vodafone) is well positioned to win an allocation, with Starlink also a possible contender depending on Elon Musk's political relationship with Europe at that time.

AI / Orbital Compute Opportunity

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman interprets 'monetizing the capabilities of our proprietary technology to capture the evolving commercial opportunities related to artificial intelligence' as pointing toward orbital data centers and edge compute, and says the company would not include such specific, unusual language lightly given its typically conservative disclosure style.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman states the newly unfolded Bluebird 6 (Block 2) phased array can generate on the order of 100 kilowatts of power per satellite — a level he associates with 'Kardashev level 2' power utilization — and speculates (citing unnamed community estimates) it could be closer to 120 kW including the solar tail, versus SpaceX's V3 satellite generation which he says can do about 20 kW while aspiring toward 100 kW in the future.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman speculates that large tech/cloud companies (he names Google, Amazon, Blue Origin, Microsoft, and OpenAI as examples) are likely reaching out to AST SpaceMobile given its demonstrated high-power satellite platform, patents, and aerospace expertise, though he says he does not know AST's specific plans (e.g., building satellites for others vs. offering compute-as-a-service).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Anpanman recounts personally meeting two senior AST engineers in an elevator the night before the BlueWalker 3 launch, who displayed calm confidence due to redundancy planning — used to illustrate the value of the company's built-up aerospace expertise and experience.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes the company holds 3,800 patents as part of the technology/expertise moat underlying its ability to pursue AI-related commercial opportunities.

Government Space Investment (Golden Dome)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says having $4 billion of cash strengthens AST's credibility with government agencies like SDA and MDA when pursuing large contracts, contrasting this with smaller companies on award lists that lack capital to actually execute; he references the Department of War's (Pete Hegseth's) stated shift away from cost-plus contracts toward a 'neo-prime' model requiring contractors to spend their own capital upfront.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Anpanman states FM-1 and FM-2 (Bluebird 6 and Bluebird 7) are effectively government satellites tied to SDA HALO testing, and that commercializing what comes out of that research will require capital.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman reiterates a theory previously discussed in the SpaceMob community that Bluebird satellites could 'quarterback' the Golden Dome missile-defense architecture by providing AI-capable command-and-control in space, given their power generation and communication capabilities, alongside other cited use cases like radar sensing, electronic warfare, jamming/spoofing, and backup GPS (the company has reportedly discussed roughly 10 use cases at a prior investor conference).

Debt Reduction

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The company plans to use $50 million of cash to retire remaining 4.25% convertible notes, of which Anpanman estimates only about $50 million face value remains outstanding, and will issue $250 million of stock (at the $96 close) to retire a portion of its 2.375% convertible notes, of which about $575 million is outstanding.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    After this transaction, Anpanman says the two primary outstanding convert issues will both carry a 2% coupon and 10-year maturity, totaling roughly $2.3 billion in size, giving the company a decade to refinance or pay off if the notes don't convert to equity.

Opportunistic Investments, Recruiting, and Corporate Strategy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says the company was previously fully funded for 90-100 satellites and funded through 2027, but this additional capital gives it flexibility to accelerate the design/production of the Block 3 (mid-band) constellation and start pursuing the 'next shell' more aggressively.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes the company's only prior acquisition-like transaction was acquiring a license to make Halon thrusters in-house after an original supplier could not deliver, part of a strategy to reach about 95% vertical integration; he says the company has otherwise been organically ('homegrown') built and floats the idea of possible future tuck-in acquisitions.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    An anonymous contact who does recruiting work for the company told Anpanman that AST has hired a significant number of people away from SpaceX and other primes/aerospace companies, including two executives recently recruited from Raytheon, which Anpanman cites as evidence of the company's growing talent draw despite being based in Midland, Texas.

Competitive Landscape: SpaceX/xAI Distraction

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Anpanman contrasts AST's focused execution with what he describes as internal turmoil at SpaceX/xAI following their merger, citing (with uncertainty about reliability) reports that several co-founders have left, the company is restructuring, and unverified social-media claims that about 50% of employees are being let go.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman cites an article claiming xAI is burning about $1 billion per month, and argues SpaceX will need to lean harder on commercial Starlink and launch revenue to fund that cash burn and related data-center R&D, meaning it can no longer credibly withhold launch services from customers as bears once feared.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman argues this distraction is a competitive tailwind for AST because it could pull SpaceX engineers away from Direct-to-Cell development toward data centers, and poses a philosophical question of whether winning the AI arms race could ultimately be a 'Pyrrhic victory' for heavy AI spenders.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman reiterates that Starlink's existing Direct-to-Cell service and its future V3-based service will remain technologically inferior to AST's platform based on what is currently known.

MNO 'Partner of Choice' Positioning

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues carriers increasingly view AST as the long-term 'partner of choice' over the next decade because AST augments carriers' existing networks rather than competing with them, whereas Starlink's fixed-wireless home terminal service directly competes with MNOs' fiber and 5G home broadband businesses.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes recent news that Elon Musk may be interested in releasing his own phone and a competing service, which he says makes MNOs feel more threatened by SpaceX/Starlink and reinforces AST's positioning.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says AST's challenge now is less about demand (everyone wants to partner) and more about sequencing — deciding which markets/partnerships to prioritize and stage given the constellation cannot serve all markets simultaneously once operational.

Financial Disclosures Pre-Announced With the Raise

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:41:53

    The company pre-announced FY2025 revenue of approximately $63 to $71 million, within its previously guided range of $50 to $75 million for the year; the exact figure is not yet final because the books haven't closed.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:41:53

    Adjusted operating expenses excluding stock-based compensation are expected to come in between approximately $263 million and $275 million for the year.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:41:53

    Cash and equivalents at the end of December (2025) were $2.8 billion; pro forma for this offering and some ATM usage, Anpanman estimates the company will have about $4 billion in cash.

Market Reaction and Hedging Mechanics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman explains that if the convert is placed mostly with fundamental long-only holders there will be little hedging pressure, but if placed largely with convertible arbitrage funds (he estimates maybe 70% of the issue at roughly a 60 delta), they may need to short an estimated 4 to 4.5 million shares to hedge, creating near-term selling pressure.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:41:53

    Despite the convert announcement and broad space-sector weakness that day (Intuitive Machines down 9%, Karman down 13%, Rocket Lab down 3.4%, Firefly down roughly 10%), AST's stock closed only slightly down/up for most of the day before falling after hours, which Anpanman calls impressive given the confidential marketing process.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    In after-hours trading (on Robinhood, which he notes is not fully reliable due to low volume), the stock was quoted around $89, down about $7 from the $96 close.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman confirms that some market participants likely had prior knowledge of the deal (either through being legitimately 'brought over the wall' as restricted investors, or through leaks), but cautions that trading on material non-public information while restricted carries serious legal risk.

Launch Cadence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman says hitting 5 orbital launches by March, a goal he'd floated earlier the same day, is 'not looking likely,' with 3 launches probable and 4 possible; he attributes delays partly to a backup in SpaceX processing (with 1-2 launch pads reportedly down) amid Dragon and Artemis missions competing for slots.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 (AST's launch vehicle) is expected no earlier than late February, and Anpanman thinks it will likely slip into February or March; the lined-up Falcon 9 launches are expected to slip into late March or early April.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman's overall expectation is about 3 orbital launches by the end of March, calling the timeline slip 'not great' but 'not the end of the world,' emphasizing the company's philosophy of not rushing satellites into space before they're ready.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman notes the successful unfolding of Bluebird 6 materially increased the probability of AST's U.S. commercial market access (SCS) application being granted.

Investor Q&A and Philosophy on Capital Raises

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Responding to a listener question on whether this will be the company's last raise, Anpanman says no — if a large government award (he gives a hypothetical $3-4 billion award) required additional spend the company hadn't already allocated for, it would raise the needed capital rather than pass on the opportunity, though he expects future capital increasingly to come from non-dilutive sources like commercial prepayments and eventually debt backed by revenue once commercial service scales; he also notes a pending $500 million Ex-Im financing application still outstanding.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman argues that raising capital ahead of major positive catalysts (rather than after them, as is more typical in biotech) is deliberate corporate-finance strategy to reward investors who buy in early, and expects further positive catalysts in the weeks/months ahead beyond the known launches.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Using a hypothetical early-Facebook dilution analogy, Anpanman argues dilution used to fund accretive growth opportunities is not inherently bad, pushing back on listener comments framing the raise simply as 'dilution.'

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:41:53

    A listener asked about an 'AT&T Eptronic' investment announcement; Anpanman said he had not yet seen it and would look into it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman closes by saying he and Kook feel comfortable with the rationale for this raise (viewing it as a sign of upcoming opportunities rather than distress), and that he personally added to his AST stock and options position earlier in the day and plans to look for buying opportunities if the stock falls further on the hedging-driven selling.

Watch Items7

  • Final pricing and terms of the $1-1.15 billion 10-year convertible note offering (coupon, conversion premium)

    Expected to price the next trading day Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Blue Origin New Glenn 3 launch (carrying AST's next Bluebird satellite)

    No earlier than late February 2026, likely slipping into February or March Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Lined-up Falcon 9 launches

    Likely slipping into late March or early April 2026 Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Total orbital launches achieved by end of Q1

    Anpanman now expects about 3 by end of March 2026, down from an earlier hoped-for 5 Anpanman 00:41:53
  • EU 2 GHz S-band spectrum reallocation process, relevant to AST/Vodafone's SatCo bid

    Expected in 2027 (about 1 year 3 months from the episode) Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Finalization of FY2025 revenue figure within the pre-announced $63-71 million range

    Books not yet closed at time of episode Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Stock trading pressure from convertible-arbitrage hedging

    Expected over the following 2-3 trading days Anpanman 00:41:53

Open Questions7

  • Will the $150 million over-allotment option on the new convertible notes be exercised, and what will the final coupon and conversion premium be?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will AST achieve 3, 4, or 5 orbital launches by the end of March, given New Glenn and Falcon 9 schedule slippage?

    Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Will this convertible note offering be the company's last capital raise, or will future large contract opportunities (e.g., a hypothetical multi-billion-dollar government award) require additional raises?

    Anpanman 00:41:53
  • What exactly is the 'AT&T Eptronic' investment announcement a listener referenced, which Anpanman had not yet reviewed?

    Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Will AST SpaceMobile or its SatCo joint venture with Vodafone actually win an allocation of EU 2 GHz S-band spectrum in the 2027 reallocation process?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will SpaceX/xAI's reported internal turmoil and cash burn meaningfully slow development of its Direct-to-Cell competing service, or prove to be a temporary distraction?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • What specific commercial or government use cases will the company pursue for 'monetizing proprietary technology' for AI, given the new use-of-proceeds disclosure language?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
2026-02-11 29:01

Anpanman - WAKE N BAKE - Let's run it back and discuss BB6 Unfolding

Anpanman

Solo Anpanman episode reacting to BlueBird 6 (the first Block 2 satellite) successfully unfolding its 2,400-square-foot phased array in orbit. He frames it as the ultimate de-risking event for AST SpaceMobile's entire constellation buildout.

He walks through why the new Block 2 'tuna can' design is simpler and more reliable than Block 1. He also contrasts AST's low-band spectrum approach with Starlink Direct-to-Cell's limitations, and previews the BlueBird 7 launch and 2026 satellite cadence.

The headline conclusion: BlueBird 6's unfold proves out a totally new, higher-performance spacecraft design and validates that AST's low-band, seamless-connectivity vision is achievable, even as near-term launch timing stays fluid.

Key Takeaways

  • BlueBird 6, AST SpaceMobile's first Block 2 satellite, successfully unfolded its 2,400-square-foot phased array in low Earth orbit, which Anpanman calls the 'ultimate de-risking event' for the whole constellation because it validates an entirely new spacecraft design.
  • The 2,400 sq ft array is about 3.5 times larger than the 693 sq ft arrays on BlueWalker 3 and the five Block 1 BlueBirds (which had unfolded successfully 6-for-6 previously), and Anpanman describes it as the largest commercial communications array ever deployed and operated in low Earth orbit.
  • Anpanman cites an anonymous former SpaceX director of engineering, quoted in a 2022 short-seller report, who called the size of AST's antenna 'terrifying' and said it was 'more or less impossible to accurately test on the ground' — a claim Anpanman says the company has now disproven.
  • The Block 2 'tuna can' design cuts the satellite's major deployment movements from 6 (in Block 1) down to 2 and relocates the control bus from the center of the array to a corner, making the spacecraft simpler and more reliable despite being much bigger (8 fused 'Micron' modules per panel versus 2 in Block 1).
  • Part of the redesign eliminates the Block 1-style launch vehicle adapter (LVA); under current space-debris rules, jettisoned LVA pieces above roughly 500-600 km would need their own propulsion to actively deorbit or they'd remain as space junk for 10-20 years, which the tuna-can housing avoids entirely.
  • Anpanman states the new Block 2 satellites carry roughly 10 times the processing power/capability of the Block 1 BlueBirds.
  • BlueBird 7 is targeted to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn no earlier than late February 2026, with the exact date uncertain due to a congested Cape Canaveral schedule (a nearby SpaceX crew launch and an Artemis mission) and Blue Origin's undecided choice between reusing the New Glenn 2 booster or flying a new one.
  • Anpanman personally guesses the company will complete only about 3 orbital launches by end of March 2026 rather than 5, with roughly 2 slipping into April, while the company has reiterated a full-year target of 45 to 60 satellites in orbit by end of 2026 against roughly 75 satellites' worth of booked launch capacity.
  • Anpanman argues AST SpaceMobile's use of low-band cellular spectrum gives it a seamless indoor/in-vehicle experience that Starlink Direct-to-Cell can't match, since Starlink relies on mid/higher-band spectrum (1.9 GHz with T-Mobile plus newly acquired 2 GHz EchoStar spectrum) that doesn't propagate through walls as well and needs a clearer sky view.
  • Starlink's Direct-to-Cell constellation has about 650 satellites currently in orbit providing what Anpanman calls a 'minimally viable' texting/low-band-data service, and its planned V3 satellites will reportedly carry a 5-by-5-meter phased array versus AST's 15-by-15-meter array, without the ability to form pinpoint fixed ground cells.
  • Anpanman explains that a real-world lag between a satellite's actual unfolding and the company's public announcement is normal, since AST spends time detumbling/stabilizing the satellite, checking thermal health and battery charge, waiting for calm space-weather conditions, and confirming nominal operation before issuing a press release.
  • AST SpaceMobile's next quarterly (Q4) earnings update, which Anpanman expects to be scheduled soon, is being anticipated as potentially 'the most important quarter in the company's history.'

Detailed Discussion9 topics

BlueBird 6 Unfolding — The De-Risking Milestone

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    BlueBird 6 successfully unfolded overnight; this is a massive de-risking event because it's a totally new spacecraft design, and the successful unfold clears the way for the rest of the Block 2 constellation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    If BlueBird 6 had failed to unfold, the company would likely have still moved ahead with BlueBird 7, but the troubleshooting and complications from the first test satellite having issues could have slowed things down.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    BlueBird 6's 2,400 sq ft array is roughly 3.5 times bigger than the 693 sq ft arrays on BlueWalker 3 and the five Block 1 BlueBirds, which had unfolded successfully 6-for-6 previously.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    BlueBird 6 is now the largest communications array ever unfolded and successfully flown in low Earth orbit, putting AST in an elite group that historically only included entities like NASA and intelligence agencies.

Historical Skepticism vs. Reality

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    A 2022 short-seller report quoted an anonymous former SpaceX director of engineering (who had led a team of 150 engineers) saying 'the size of the antenna is terrifying,' that only a handful of entities like NASA and intelligence agencies have deployed a foldable structure that big, and that it's 'more or less impossible to accurately test on the ground.'

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Abel Avellan's vision from the start was that delivering seamless broadband to unmodified phones using low-band spectrum would require a massive, high-power phased array — the company has now built and flown it.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Rather than iteratively building and launching test satellites, AST tested its concept by launching an actual smartphone into orbit inside the BlueWalker 1 CubeSat, since the phone couldn't be modified but the ground-based satellite counterpart could be iterated quickly on Earth while still replicating real orbital conditions like Doppler shift and signal delay.

Block 2 'Tuna Can' Design Evolution

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:17

    Company management hinted in the fall/winter of 2024, after the Block 1 launch, that the Block 2 design would be 'less risky and simpler,' though at the time he assumed it would just be a bigger version of the same Block 1 form factor; the actual new design was only revealed later via FCC filings.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    The Block 2 design moves the control bus from the center of the array to a corner and reduces the satellite's major deployment movements from 6 (in Block 1) down to 2.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    Two of the new 'tuna can' metal spacecraft were built for the SDA-related satellites, BlueBird 6 and BlueBird 7; it has been speculated that a solar tail or other government-requested add-ons may have been included on these, potentially delaying the build.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Block 2 panels fuse 8 'Micron' modules together per panel versus 2 in Block 1, making the panels much bigger; this creates more mechanical stress during the unfold event itself, but results in a more rigid array with less vibration once fully deployed.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:17

    The new Block 2 satellite has roughly 10 times the processing power/capability of a Block 1 satellite.

Regulatory Driver: Avoiding Space Junk

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Block 1's launch vehicle adapter (LVA) — a 'Coke can' shaped shell held by 3 straps around the folded satellite — splits into two halves that fall away during initial deployment; under current regulations, jettisoned pieces above roughly 500-600 km orbits need their own propulsion/guidance to actively deorbit, or they'd otherwise remain space debris for 10-20 years. The new tuna-can design eliminates the LVA entirely, avoiding this issue.

Why the PR Announcement Took Time

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    His guess is that BlueBird 6 was actually unfolded a handful of days before the official announcement; after a satellite reaches orbit, it must be detumbled and stabilized (using magnetorquers and Earth's magnetic field), have its thermal state checked and batteries charged, and the company waits for calm space-weather conditions (no solar flares) before unfolding and then confirms the array and signals are nominal before issuing a press release.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Community members, including someone known as 'Katzi' and others on X/Reddit, correctly called the successful unfolding several days before the official company announcement — which he calls 'true alpha.'

Competitive Positioning vs. Starlink Direct-to-Cell

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    SpaceX's Starlink Direct-to-Cell currently has about 650 satellites in orbit, providing what he calls a 'minimally viable' service limited to texting and some dumbed-down low-band data applications.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Based on FCC filings, Starlink's planned V3 satellites will carry at most a 5-by-5-meter phased array compared to AST's 15-by-15-meter array, and Starlink's design lacks the ability to create pinpoint, fixed ground cells.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Starlink currently uses 1.9 GHz spectrum with T-Mobile and has purchased 2 GHz spectrum from EchoStar — both higher-band than AST's cellular low-band spectrum — which will provide decent data but not a seamless, walls-penetrating cellular-like experience.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    AST's use of low-band cellular spectrum, which propagates through walls, will let its service work seamlessly indoors, in vehicles, and on planes without requiring a clear line of sight to the sky — something Starlink will struggle to match even with the EchoStar spectrum purchase.

Launch Roadmap: BlueBird 7 and 2026 Cadence

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:17

    BlueBird 7 is targeted to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn no earlier than late February 2026; the FCC and Blue Origin appear to be doing prep work to coordinate spectrum usage between the rocket and command center ahead of the launch.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:11:17

    Cape Canaveral has a launch backlog — a SpaceX crew launch has been pushed back 2 days to no earlier than February 13, and an Artemis mission is set for the end of the month — creating uncertainty over whether BlueBird 7 launches before or after Artemis; Blue Origin also hasn't decided whether to reuse the refurbished New Glenn 2 booster or fly a new one.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    His own guess is that 5 orbital launches by the end of March 2026 'is not going to happen' — more likely 3 at best, with about 2 slipping into April.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:17

    The company has reiterated a target of 45 to 60 satellites in orbit by the end of 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    He recalls the company has booked enough launch capacity for about 75 satellites this year — effectively overbooking relative to the 45-60 target — so Blue Origin's cadence (New Glenn currently carries 6 satellites per launch, rising to 8 once optimized) is a key swing factor.

Company Philosophy and Investor Patience

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:11:17

    The company's DNA is 'measure twice, cut once' rather than throwing things at the wall to see what sticks; getting it wrong with an expensive satellite in space is a far bigger problem than a product recall for an Earth-based consumer product.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    He encourages the SpaceMob community to be patient with delays of weeks, months, or even quarters, framing the eventual constellation buildout and commercial service launch as 'inevitable' and urging investors to encourage rather than criticize the company for taking the time to do it right.

Upcoming Q4 Earnings Call

1
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    He expects the company will set a date soon for its Q4 earnings update, which he anticipates will be 'the most important quarter in the company's history' given everything currently in motion.

Watch Items4

  • BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn

    No earlier than late February 2026 (could slip further given Cape Canaveral congestion and booster-reuse decision) Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Q4 earnings call / company update

    Date not yet set; expected to be announced soon Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Next batch of BlueBird satellites ready to ship

    Soon; unclear whether the company will issue a press release about it Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Target of 45 to 60 satellites in orbit

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:11:17

Open Questions5

  • What is the exact launch date for BlueBird 7 on New Glenn, beyond 'no earlier than late February'?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Will Blue Origin launch BlueBird 7 before or after the nearby Artemis mission given Cape Canaveral's congested schedule?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Will Blue Origin reuse the refurbished New Glenn 2 booster or fly a new booster for the BlueBird 7 mission?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Will the company issue a press release about the next batch of BlueBird satellites being shipped?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Did BlueBird 6 and 7 include a solar tail or other government-requested add-ons that delayed their build, as some in the community have speculated?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
2026-02-11 43:11

Anpanman - Block 2 Unfolded

Anpanman

In this solo, late-night X Spaces recap (republished by SpaceMob dated 2026-02-11), Anpanman celebrates AST SpaceMobile's successful unfolding of the 2,400-square-foot Block 2 phased array on BlueBird 6.

He frames it as a definitive rebuttal to a 2022 Kerrisdale short-report quote from a former SpaceX engineer calling large foldable arrays in space 'terrifying' and near-impossible to test on the ground.

Anpanman walks through the redesigned 'tuna can' Block 2 architecture: a debris-regulation-driven, self-encapsulated satellite with a single-arm unfold and 8-fused-micron panels, versus Block 1's two-arm, six-direction unfold with only 2 microns fused. He explains why confirmation took several days — detumbling, system checks, flight-stability verification before PR.

The headline conclusion: the company is now '7 for 7' on major array deployments, and this de-risks the upcoming BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3. And investors should stay patient through the volatility given management's unblemished execution record and Abel Avellan's continued zero share sales.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 satellite BlueBird 6 (BB6) successfully unfolded its 2,400-square-foot phased array, the largest commercial communications array ever deployed in low Earth orbit, roughly 3.5x the size of the 693-square-foot Block 1 array.
  • Anpanman cites a 2022 Kerrisdale short-seller report that quoted a former SpaceX director of engineering calling large foldable space antennas 'terrifying' and something only NASA and intelligence agencies had ever done — Anpanman argues this quote, meant as FUD, now reads as validation given AST has since deployed such arrays seven times successfully (BlueWalker 3, BlueBird 1-5, and now BlueBird 6).
  • The Block 2 'tuna can' design change was driven by evolving space-debris regulations: unlike Block 1's design, which jettisoned two cylindrical launch-vehicle-adapter (LVA) halves that would remain as space debris for a decade or more, Block 2 satellites are fully self-encapsulated with no debris left behind.
  • Block 2's unfolding mechanism is simpler than Block 1's — one large arm swings out in roughly two major motions versus Block 1's six major unfolding directions — achieved by fusing 8 microns together per rigid panel (versus 2 microns in Block 1), which reduces the number of hinges and potential failure points, though it also concentrates more mechanical stress during the single large unfold.
  • AST SpaceMobile used a 'reverse testing' strategy for its original technology validation: rather than iterating on satellites in orbit, the company put a phone in a CubeSat (BlueBird/BlueWalker-era testing) and orbited it while building and iterating the phased array on the ground, which Anpanman says was far more cost-effective than traditional iterative-launch approaches like SpaceX's.
  • It took several days after the physical unfolding for AST to publicly confirm success because the company runs detumbling, orientation, and post-unfold system checks (verifying no microns were damaged and the spacecraft can still be flown/controlled) before issuing a press release, to avoid having to walk back a premature announcement.
  • The successful BB6 unfolding de-risks the upcoming BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 rocket, expected as early as late February 2026 but more likely March 2026, since BB7 uses the same production and testing process as BB6.
  • Anpanman says the company will not hit its informally watched target of 5 orbital launches by the end of Q1 2026 — he expects only about 3 (one being BlueBird 7 on New Glenn, plus one more batch of 3 satellites by end of March), with two more batches slipping into April — but the company reiterated its full-year target of 45 to 60 satellites in orbit by the end of 2026.
  • Founder and CEO Abel Avellan has not sold a single share of AST SpaceMobile stock across the stock's full range from roughly $2 to $130, which Anpanman cites (via a comment attributed to a community member 'Tut') as a reason for investor confidence.
  • SpaceMob community members (cited as Katsy and Toad) reportedly identified signs the BB6 array had successfully deployed several days before the official announcement, including observing AST SpaceMobile employees and partners liking related social media posts.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

Kerrisdale short report and the SpaceX engineer's 2022 'terrifying' quote

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    In 2022, short-seller Kerrisdale timed a short report to land right after BlueWalker 3's successful September 2022 launch, when the company's hands were tied in responding; the report quoted a former SpaceX director of engineering (who led a team of 150 engineers) saying the antenna's size was 'terrifying,' that only NASA and intelligence entities had ever deployed a foldable structure that big in space, and that it was 'almost impossible to accurately test on the ground.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:41

    Anpanman says that quote initially worried him in 2022, but in hindsight it reads as a compliment: AST SpaceMobile — a startup — has now successfully unfolded large phased arrays 7 times (BlueWalker 3, BlueBirds 1-5, and BlueBird 6), putting it in the same elite class as NASA and intelligence agencies, a feat even SpaceX (which was 'terrified' of it) still hasn't attempted.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:05:30

    The company's DNA is described as 'measure twice, cut once' — succeeding on the first attempt every time rather than iterating through failures, which Anpanman contrasts with criticism the company has received for missing self-imposed timelines.

Reverse testing strategy (BlueBird 1 CubeSat phone test)

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:08:10

    To address the SpaceX engineer's claim that large phased arrays are nearly impossible to test on the ground, Anpanman explains AST's 'reverse testing' approach: for BlueBird-1 (described as a small CubeSat), the company put a phone inside and sent it into orbit at 17,000 miles per hour, while keeping the phased array itself on the ground so it could be iterated and improved rapidly without needing to relaunch hardware.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:09:00

    This approach was far more cost-effective and allowed faster innovation than the traditional SpaceX-style method of launching satellites, testing/calibrating them in orbit, and sending up new iterations when problems arose.

Block 2 design change: origins and timeline

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:40

    Anpanman recalls first hearing about the Block 2 form-factor change from company management in roughly fall/winter 2024, initially not understanding it would involve moving the control satellite from the center and radically changing the unfolding mechanism.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:11:20

    The company publicly disclosed the Block 2 design change via an FCC filing around the beginning of 2025, at which point commentator Tim Ferriss criticized the redesign, claiming the satellites would never get approved or successfully launched — FUD that Anpanman says Ferriss has repeatedly peddled.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:50

    From the early-2025 disclosure to the successful BB6 unfolding, Anpanman estimates it was roughly a 9-to-12-month process to design, build, and fly a completely new spacecraft architecture that still uses the same fundamental 'micron' building block but assembles and encapsulates them differently.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:12:30

    The original target was to launch Block 2 sometime around April 2025, but internal delays and launch-provider delays pushed the launch to the end of 2025 (BlueBird 6 launched December 2025 per the event ledger).

Block 2 'tuna can' architecture vs. Block 1 design

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:14:00

    Block 1 (BlueWalker 3, BlueBirds 1-5) used a launch vehicle adapter (LVA) — two cylindrical halves held by straps around the folded array and a rectangular control satellite — that popped off and separated into orbit before the array unfolded in two arms and then further unfolded from the bar configuration into the full array.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:30

    The discarded LVA halves would remain in orbit for a decade or more before deorbiting and burning up, and regulators are now requiring that any jettisoned LVA pieces carry their own propulsion to deorbit faster — an added weight and cost that motivated AST to redesign around a fully self-encapsulated 'tuna can' structure with no debris left behind.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:10

    In the new design, FM1/FM2 (BlueBird 6 and BlueBird 7) are enclosed in a metal 'tuna can' housing the control satellite and folded phased array together; on deployment, a single arm swings out in one direction, versus Block 1's six major unfolding directions.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:30

    Block 1 fused at most 2 microns together per rigid section before hinges connected them; Block 2 fuses 8 microns together into larger rigid rectangles, reducing the number of hinges and minor-unfold points needed, making the mechanism simpler and less prone to failure — though the fewer, larger unfolding motions place more mechanical stress on each fused section (a 2,400 sq ft unfold versus 693 sq ft).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:30

    Anpanman assumes the company reinforced/hardened the hinges and fused-micron joints to handle the added stress from the larger single-arm unfold, though this is inference rather than a company statement.

Why confirmation of BB6's unfold took several days

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:24:00

    After launch, a satellite goes through 'detumbling' (using magnetorquers that leverage Earth's magnetic field to stop tumbling/spinning and properly orient the spacecraft) before any unfolding is attempted, and the company also waits for favorable space-weather conditions (e.g., no solar flares) before unfolding.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:00

    SpaceMob community members closely tracking the satellite (cited as Katsy and Toad) predicted with high confidence that the array had physically unfolded a few days before the company's official announcement.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:26:00

    The company waits to announce success until after post-unfold system checks confirm no microns were damaged and that the spacecraft can still be properly flown/controlled, because announcing prematurely and then having something go wrong would be far worse than a delayed announcement.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:35:40

    Community sleuthing (a post, possibly from a Korean investor following LinkedIn) noted that AST SpaceMobile employees and partner-company personnel were liking a social media post suggesting BlueBird 6 had unfolded according to tracking data, which Anpanman says was used to infer the deployment had likely succeeded before the formal PR.

Investor psychology and patience

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:00

    Anpanman argues that successful space investing requires patience and an understanding that satellite deployment involves risks not present in ordinary consumer product businesses — launch-vibration damage, unhardened radiation-induced chip failures, and extreme thermal swings can all cause failures, and redundant systems (including the phased array's ability to keep operating even if some microns fail) are built in to mitigate this.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:00

    Anpanman references community pushback and anxiety on Twitter/Reddit during the days between the presumed unfold and the official announcement, with some fearing the satellite had failed; he attributes this to a broader space-sector sell-off and general volatility amplifying worst-case thinking.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:36:40

    Anpanman relays a comment attributed to community member 'Tut' that founder/CEO Abel Avellan has not sold a single share of AST SpaceMobile stock across its full range, from around $2 to $130, as a reason to trust management's conviction.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:10

    Anpanman states the company is now '7 for 7' on major satellite/array deployments with no failures yet, though he acknowledges that at some point a satellite will likely fail or get 'bricked' as the constellation scales.

Competitive comparison to Starlink

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:40

    Anpanman argues AST's Block 2 array/technology is 'far superior' to Starlink's V2/V2.5 direct-to-cell satellites (which he describes as roughly 650 satellites currently in service) and even to Starlink's planned V3 satellites intended to launch on Starship.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:30

    Starlink's satellite design is described as simpler and cheaper (a flat plate with solar-panel-style deployables), which allows mass production but limits how large a phased array they can practically deploy, unlike AST's large fused-micron array approach.

Upcoming BlueBird 7 launch and near-term production/launch cadence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:20

    BlueBird 7 is expected to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 as early as late February 2026, though Anpanman thinks it's more likely to occur in March 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:38:50

    New Glenn 3 will most likely reuse the New Glenn 2 booster, though there is a chance a new booster will be used if the New Glenn 2 booster can't be refurbished in time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:40

    Based on due diligence, Anpanman believes the company is already producing satellites at a cadence of about 6 per month, and expects the upcoming Q4/quarterly update to be full of production-cadence detail, with one batch of 3 satellites hopefully shipped to Cape Canaveral by then.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:40:10

    Anpanman states the company will not hit the informally watched target of 5 orbital launches by the end of Q1 2026 — he expects only about 3 total (BlueBird 7 on New Glenn plus one more batch of 3 by end of March), with the remaining 2 batches slipping into April.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:40:40

    The company reiterated its guidance of getting 45 to 60 satellites into orbit by the end of 2026, contingent partly on whether Blue Origin's New Glenn can increase its launch cadence; if not, Anpanman notes the company has booked enough additional launch capacity (he estimates around 70-75 satellites' worth) via SpaceX Falcon 9 to cover the gap.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:38:20

    Other near-term Cape Canaveral schedule context: a SpaceX Dragon crew launch on Falcon 9 was pushed back about 2 days to no earlier than February 13, and NASA's Artemis mission is expected toward the end of February or early March, with New Glenn 3 (BlueBird 7) launching either before or after Artemis.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:10

    Anpanman mentions the company has previously invited investors to launch events via a selection/lottery process, and notes that even without an invitation, good public viewing of the BlueBird 7 launch is available from within a few miles of the Cape Canaveral launch site.

Watch Items7

  • BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3

    As early as late February 2026, more likely March 2026 Anpanman 00:23:20
  • One more batch of 3 Block 2 satellites shipped/launched

    By end of March 2026 Anpanman 00:40:10
  • Remaining 2 batches of satellites launch

    Slipping into April 2026 Anpanman 00:40:20
  • Upcoming quarterly (Q4) company update with production cadence detail

    Coming quarter (not specifically dated) Anpanman 00:39:40
  • Company target of 45-60 satellites in orbit

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:40:40
  • SpaceX Dragon crew launch on Falcon 9 (Cape Canaveral)

    No earlier than February 13, 2026 (pushed back ~2 days) Anpanman 00:38:20
  • NASA Artemis mission launch

    End of February or early March 2026 Anpanman 00:38:30

Open Questions3

  • Exactly where the control satellite sits within the deployed Block 2 array and its precise in-orbit flight orientation (speculated as a 'manta ray'-like configuration with a possible solar tail) remains unconfirmed community speculation.

    Anpanman 00:27:50
  • Whether New Glenn 3 will reuse the New Glenn 2 booster or require a new booster if refurbishment isn't completed in time.

    Anpanman 00:38:50
  • Whether Blue Origin's New Glenn can increase its launch cadence enough to hit the company's 45-60 satellite year-end target, or whether AST will need to lean more heavily on its overbooked SpaceX Falcon 9 capacity.

    Anpanman 00:40:40
2026-02-10 27:25

Kook's Weekly - February 9 - Smoothies, Strokes, and SpaceMobile

Kook

In this solo "Kook's Weekly" episode, Kook opens with a personal PSA about a suspected stroke/metabolic crash brought on by combining peptides, a lime-heavy smoothie, and strenuous exercise, warning listeners against unsupervised biohacking.

He then recaps a volatile week for ASTS driven by AI-datacenter sentiment and an Amazon fixed-wireless-constellation scare. From there he covers a new community-sourced data point suggesting AST SpaceMobile's spectral efficiency (~6 bits/hertz) is far above prior estimates.

He also covers parabolic company headcount growth, new Hyundai/Vodafone and FirstNet developments, progress in the Ligado spectrum docket, deepening Apple/iPhone testing signals, and Elon Musk's pivot toward an AI-data-center-in-space narrative that Kook frames as a possible retreat from direct-to-device competition.

The episode closes with a caution against leveraged ASTS ETFs and Kook's reiterated long-term $100 price-target thesis.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook, host of the AST SpaceMobile podcast, suffered a suspected stroke/metabolic crash over a weekend after combining a doctor-supervised peptide regimen with a lime-cucumber-avocado protein smoothie and strenuous pushups; an MRI showed no brain hemorrhage, and he is warning listeners against DIY biohacking (e.g. ordering unregulated "Temu peptides") without medical oversight.
  • New data, reportedly surfaced in a Vodafone-related document and flagged by a community analyst nicknamed 'Dr. Mike,' suggests AST SpaceMobile satellites can achieve spectral efficiency of about 6 bits per hertz, well above the roughly 2-3 bits/hertz the community had previously assumed, which combined with spectrum reuse implies data capacity much higher than earlier estimates.
  • A community researcher known as 'Only Six Inches' pointed to parabolic headcount growth at AST SpaceMobile as evidence the company is aggressively scaling to capture a large addressable market rather than waiting to validate demand first.
  • Hyundai Motor Group is partnering with Vodafone IoT to deploy connected cars across 5 Middle East countries, a find surfaced by fellow host Anpanman, following a similar connected-car mandate trend Kook says began in India.
  • AST SpaceMobile is reportedly testing with iPhone 17 series phones per an FCC filing, feeding speculation that Apple's stated vision for iPhone 18 and later models (always-on satellite connectivity without pointing the phone at the sky) describes AST SpaceMobile's technology.
  • A Forbes article comparing SpaceX and AST SpaceMobile quoted a professor saying satellite tech comparisons and said 'what will work best remains to be seen,' which Kook read as early mainstream media validation that the two companies are not equivalent competitors.
  • Elon Musk revived talk of a SpaceX-branded phone and clashed publicly with Apple over Globalstar spectrum access after Apple reportedly declined to give SpaceX/Globalstar spectrum; Kook speculates Musk is shifting strategic focus toward a proposed AI-data-center-in-space concept (potentially up to 1 million satellites) as a possible 'off-ramp' from a direct-to-device market Kook believes AST SpaceMobile is winning.
  • SpaceX has filed last-minute legal opposition ('lawfare') in AST SpaceMobile's regulatory docket; Kook guesses (not company-confirmed) that full SCS/FCC approval could still arrive within about a month, with community member @justbar tracking the FCC docket for updates.
  • A newly launched double-leveraged ASTS ETF carries significant theta decay and, per Kook, is unsuitable for long-term holding unless the stock only ever goes up; he reiterated warnings against margin, short-term options, and shorting the stock.
  • Kook reiterated a long-term thesis of AST SpaceMobile eventually reaching a $100 stock price and urged the community to stay disciplined, keep researching, and remain grateful rather than jinxing the outcome.

Detailed Discussion16 topics

Personal Health Scare / PSA

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  • Kook Untagged 00:01:20

    Kook says he had been seeing a functional/real MD (not ordering 'Temu peptides') and started a peptide regimen about a month ago as part of a 2026 health push; on Saturday he says he 'created a perfect storm of a smoothie' — cucumber, lime, and avocado with protein powder — where the lime interacted with the protein to create digestive 'sludge,' the peptide caused rapid arterial dilation, the acidic lime simultaneously contracted arteries, and a second set of pushups added rapid exertion, combining into what he describes (per his own Gemini AI query and an MRI) as a stroke and 'massive metabolic crash.'

  • Kook Untagged 00:01:20

    Kook says he got a stat MRI that confirmed no brain hemorrhage, but still felt awful; he frames the story as a PSA: do peptides only under real medical supervision, and lists 'don't do Temu peptides' alongside 'don't use margin' and 'don't use short-term options for your core position' as his running list of things not to do.

  • Kook Untagged 00:01:20

    Kook describes deciding not to call 911 at 3 a.m. because it was the night before his son's birthday and he feared his wife's reaction more than the medical risk; he says his wife later told him he 'made the right call.' He is deferring his pushup routine until he gets medical clearance.

Market Recap — Prior Week's Volatility

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  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook recaps that the market fell apart initially on broad AI-sentiment weakness, then ASTS rallied when investors connected AI/space-datacenter narratives to the stock, then sold off after Amazon announced a fixed-wireless satellite constellation seen as SpaceX competition, before recovering once the market realized that announcement wasn't relevant competition to ASTS.

  • Kook Untagged 00:01:20

    Kook shares an anecdote about his real estate agent, who owns ASTS and told him he was 'losing like $300,000 a day' during the down days; Kook notes the agent has made more money from ASTS than in his real estate career and simply holds without trading, which Kook cites as validation of a long-term, buy-and-hold approach through volatile weeks.

Fundamentals: Testing, FM1 Status, and FM2/New Glenn 3

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  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook cites 'US testing began' as an exciting fundamental data point from the past week, framing it as further proof that FirstNet spectrum access is progressing, and separately notes 'the international spectrum is a go.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook discusses an amateur/community visual sighting of FM1 (the first Block 2 BlueBird, i.e. BlueBird 6) that looked 'a little hazy'; based on his own satellite-tracking data (drag data that spiked then settled), he believes the satellite has likely unfurled its antenna array, though the company has not announced it.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook lays out three possible explanations for AST not announcing an FM1 unfurl: (1) it hasn't actually unfurled yet; (2) it has unfurled but the company is holding the announcement to package with other news; or (3) it unfurled and the company saw no need to announce since the community (Space Mob) had already tracked it themselves.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook says FM2 (the next Block 2 BlueBird) is 'on deck' for launch on New Glenn 3, and asks listeners to DM him any insights — even hearsay — on New Glenn 3's launch date/status so he can cross-check with other sources.

Company Scaling: Headcount Growth

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  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook highlights community analyst 'Only Six Inches,' who tracks AST SpaceMobile headcount data and found that headcount growth has gone 'parabolic' even in an era of AI-driven efficiency gains; Kook interprets this as the company aggressively moving to capture a large total addressable market (TAM) rather than waiting to validate demand.

Commercial Partnerships: Hyundai/Vodafone and FirstNet

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:01:20

    Kook credits fellow host Anpanman with surfacing news that Hyundai Motor Group is partnering with Vodafone IoT to deploy connected cars in 5 Middle East countries, which Kook frames as an expansion of a connected-car trend that began (per an earlier discussion) with India mandating connected vehicles — expanding AST SpaceMobile's addressable market via IoT/connected-vehicle use cases.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook says 'FirstNet is definitely happening,' citing FirstNet officials testifying (a link he included in the show notes) as continued evidence of progress on the FirstNet spectrum opportunity discussed in a prior episode.

Spectrum: Ligado/Viasat Proceeding

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  • Kook Speculation 00:10:35

    Kook describes an adversary-proceeding-adjacent dispute in the Ligado bankruptcy docket where Viasat is 'trying to be annoying,' which he views as proof that the Ligado spectrum access is valuable; he notes the presiding judge does not seem tolerant of parties trying to obstruct the process, and a public notice for Ligado is proceeding, which he expects to lead to further developments supporting AST's future growth.

Spectral Efficiency Breakthrough

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:10:35

    Kook discusses a newly surfaced data point — he believes disclosed in a Vodafone-related document, though he's not fully certain of the source — showing AST SpaceMobile's satellites can achieve spectral efficiency of about 6 bits per hertz, versus prior community assumptions of roughly 2-3 bits/hertz; combined with spectrum reuse multiplying capacity, he says this points to data capacity far higher than previously modeled. He credits community analyst 'Dr. Mike' (a PhD holder) with finding and detailing this in a retweeted post.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:35

    Kook states his 'first commandment' of Space Mob analysis is that 'spectrum will always flow to the most efficient use,' crediting a community member 'Katsy' for the framing, and ties the new spectral efficiency data to this thesis as reinforcing AST's positioning as the most efficient user of spectrum.

Apple / iPhone Integration

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook notes an FCC filing shows AST SpaceMobile testing with iPhone 17 series phones (a find credited to community member 'Katsy'), and frames this as the 'Apple ASTS story' gaining momentum, contrasting it with prior market reactions where Bloomberg articles about SpaceX-Apple speculation caused ASTS to drop ~10% even though (in his view) SpaceX is merely hoping its system will work with Apple, unlike AST's actual testing relationship.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook describes reporting that Apple's vision for the iPhone 18 and later models is to make satellite connectivity 'natural' — eliminating the need to point the phone at the sky, with future iPhones maintaining satellite connections while in a pocket and seamlessly switching between cellular and satellite networks — which he argues effectively describes AST SpaceMobile's technology without naming the company.

Media Coverage: Forbes Comparison

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook cites a Forbes article comparing SpaceX and AST SpaceMobile that states AST SpaceMobile 'is developing much more sophisticated satellites, with massive phased array antennas to compensate for the limited power antennas of today's phones,' quoting an unnamed 'Professor Freya' saying 'what will work best remains to be seen.' Kook views this open-ended framing as evidence the market hasn't yet priced in AST's advantage, supporting his belief the stock still has room to run toward $100.

MNO Relationship Deepening (Vodafone)

1
  • Kook Company Guidance 00:26:12

    Kook cites a Vodafone statement that its 'technology team has been working tirelessly on multiple fronts and preparing for commercial launch of the service,' and references a find by community member 'Rocket Tank123' from a Vodafone filing with the UK Scottish Affairs Committee showing the depth of the Vodafone-AST partnership, plus a separate Anpanman find on Vodafone's key technology achievements.

Government/Defense: Michael Pollack at SatShow

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook notes that Michael Pollack, AST SpaceMobile's EVP of Government Operations, is scheduled to speak at 'SatShow 2026'; he says an unnamed, experienced (possibly retired) source told him to watch SatShow, which he views as fitting given AST's ramp-up of its government/defense business.

Competitive Landscape: Elon Musk / SpaceX

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook says Elon Musk revived talk of a SpaceX-branded phone, framing it in terms of reaching an advanced ('Kardashev-level') civilization, and notes Apple has reportedly declined to give SpaceX/Globalstar additional spectrum, prompting Musk to respond combatively; Kook says Musk's denials of the phone plan actually increase his confidence that a SpaceX phone effort is real, calling it consistent with Musk's direct-to-consumer business style.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook speculates Musk may be shifting focus toward a proposed AI-data-center-in-space concept — citing up to 1 million satellites intended to power AI/robotics — which Kook thinks could serve as a strategic 'off-ramp' from the direct-to-device market where Musk may have 'mispositioned' relative to AST SpaceMobile; he also notes the SpaceX IPO ('the X ticker') is proceeding.

Abel Avellan Patent Reference

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook references a patent find by community member 'Tom Chattafitness' (aka 'Timmy Turbo') showing that AST SpaceMobile CEO Abel Avellan had data-center-related concepts reflected in AST patents from years ago, which Kook cites as evidence Avellan anticipated this space/AI-datacenter direction as well.

Regulatory: SpaceX Legal Opposition and SCS Approval Timeline

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook says SpaceX has filed last-minute legal opposition ('lawfare') against AST SpaceMobile in an ongoing regulatory docket, that the docket is progressing, and that his own guess is full SCS/FCC approval could come within roughly the next month; he says community member @justbar is monitoring the FCC dockets and will be the one to break the news when approval happens.

Investing Caution: Leveraged ETFs and Market Conditions

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook attributes recent market turmoil partly to a 'readjustment period' tied to Fed-related dynamics (referencing 'Warsh') and seasonal factors, noting this volatility tends to make people bearish near local bottoms.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook warns against a newly available double-leveraged ASTS ETF, explaining that leveraged products suffer significant theta/tracking-error decay in a choppy, non-directional stock and are only favorable if the stock moves in one direction continuously; he reiterates that shorting ASTS is inadvisable and that investors should avoid leveraged vehicles unless they fully understand the mechanics.

Closing: $100 Price Target and Community Message

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook closes by restating his belief that AST SpaceMobile is heading toward a $100 stock price, framing the remaining risks/uncertainties as things that, once resolved, should push the stock higher, and urges the community to keep researching, stay disciplined, and remain grateful rather than 'jinxing' the outcome. He says he will host the next session on Sunday, earlier than usual due to being on the East Coast.

Watch Items4

  • FM2 (second Block 2 BlueBird) launch on New Glenn 3

    On deck / upcoming, exact date unconfirmed — Kook is soliciting community tips on New Glenn 3 status Kook 00:01:20
  • Full SCS/FCC license-modification approval

    Kook's own guess: possibly within about the next month Kook 00:26:12
  • Michael Pollack (EVP Government Operations) speaking appearance at SatShow 2026

    SatShow 2026 (specific date not given) Kook 00:26:12
  • Next Kook's Weekly episode

    Sunday (earlier time slot, East Coast) Kook 00:26:12

Open Questions3

  • Has FM1 (BlueBird 6) actually unfurled its antenna array, and if so, why hasn't AST SpaceMobile officially announced it?

    Kook 00:01:20
  • What is the actual launch date/status of New Glenn 3, the vehicle expected to carry FM2?

    Kook 00:01:20
  • Is Elon Musk's talk of a SpaceX-branded phone a genuine product plan or a negotiating/rhetorical tactic, and will Musk pursue an AI-data-center-in-space strategy instead of competing directly in direct-to-device?

    Kook 00:26:12
2026-02-06 58:25

Anpanman - Market Liquidations, VIX Rules, and the SpaceMobile Connectivity Shift

Anpanman

In a late-night solo episode, Anpanman walks through the after-hours market liquidations and margin calls hitting stocks and crypto, using his own history through prior crypto and AST drawdowns to argue this is normal de-risking, not a thesis-breaking event.

AST SpaceMobile whipsawed from $93 to roughly $86 before settling near $90, and Bitcoin cut roughly in half from a ~$126,000 high to ~$64,000.

He shares macro frameworks: a VIX-based rule for when to get aggressive, skepticism of the AI-software panic, and real-time inflation data running cooler than the Fed. He also gives detailed portfolio/risk-management advice: avoid margin, use call spreads instead, have a pre-set profit-taking plan.

He closes bullish on AST SpaceMobile specifically, framing the upcoming SpaceX IPO, Apple's iPhone spectrum testing, and a possible AT&T EchoStar 600 MHz spectrum unlock as underappreciated catalysts. He argues the stock's fundamentals have vastly improved even though its price is currently volatile.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile stock closed at $93 before after-hours forced liquidations and margin calls pushed it down to roughly $86, stabilizing around $90 overnight; Anpanman expected further margin-call-driven selling pressure into the next morning's open.
  • Bitcoin fell from an all-time high of roughly $126,000 to about $64,000, a decline of nearly half, which Anpanman attributes to broad market deleveraging and forced liquidation of overleveraged crypto positions rather than anything specific to crypto's fundamentals.
  • Anpanman argues AI panic is unfairly punishing software companies (FactSet, S&P, Moody's, and Morningstar sold off after an AI firm he believes was Anthropic announced a model that can generate comprehensive research reports) while sparing 'hard physical industries' like space and energy, since AI cannot build or launch multi-ton satellites.
  • Anpanman's personal rule of thumb for capital allocation: get aggressive buying when the VIX rises above 50 (a sign of extreme fear), and go 'all in' only when VIX exceeds 70-80 — a level he says he has seen only twice in his career, during COVID (VIX ~84) and the 2008 financial crisis (VIX ~90).
  • He strongly warns against using margin, recalling AST investors who kept averaging down on margin during the stock's decline to $2 and were wiped out near $4, versus unleveraged holders who survived; he recommends options like call spreads instead of margin for tactical leverage.
  • Real-time inflation tracker Truflation is showing year-over-year inflation near or under 1%, which Anpanman says runs 1-3 months ahead of official Fed data and supports the case for further rate cuts, contrasting with a Fed governor's public comments that inflation remains 'stubborn.'
  • Anpanman disclosed a personal trade: around $50 per share in November (implied 2025), he sold roughly 2,000-3,000 AST shares and used the proceeds to buy January call spreads, which he says made him approximately $2-3 million when the stock rebounded to around $90.
  • He credits taking some profit near AST's high $20s (before the 2024 drawdown) with letting him weather the stock's later fall from about $39 in August 2024 to $18 without emotional distress, unlike other investors who felt 'absolute dejection'; he advises always having a pre-set profit-taking plan.
  • Anpanman is bullish heading into the anticipated SpaceX IPO, arguing the resulting attention will bring underappreciated upside to the direct-to-device sector, similar to how Verizon's 2024 MOU ($100 million investment plus contribution of 850 MHz spectrum) was an unpriced catalyst that opened the door to broader military interest in AST.
  • He highlighted Apple's iPhone 17 testing on the 700/800 MHz bands used by AST's partners AT&T and Verizon (as well as 600 MHz and T-Mobile's 1.9 GHz band used by Starlink), and speculated that AT&T's pending acquisition of EchoStar's unused nationwide 20x20 MHz 600 MHz spectrum block could be a 'game changer' if AT&T dedicates it to AST service.
  • Anpanman put AST's volatility in context: when Bitcoin was last near $60,000 (September 2024), AST traded around $24; now, with Bitcoin similarly near $65,000 after a major deleveraging, AST trades in the $90s, which he says reflects substantial fundamental progress despite the recent pullback.

Detailed Discussion6 topics

Market Liquidations, Margin Calls, and AST's After-Hours Price Action

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    AST closed regular trading at $93 before after-hours forced liquidations/margin-call selling pushed shares down to roughly $86, before stabilizing to around $90 overnight; he expected additional margin-call-driven selling into the next morning's open and possibly at the open itself.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He described the broad wave of after-hours liquidations across markets as 'the system working' — forced selling by over-leveraged investors receiving margin calls from brokers, characterizing it as a natural, painful, but normal part of market de-risking cycles, not something to 'freak out about.'

Crypto Cycle Reflections: Bitcoin's Pullback and Personal History

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Bitcoin's recent top was roughly $126,000 and it has since fallen to about $64,000 — roughly cut in half — which he says is catching new/institutional investors who believed 'this time is different' off guard, though it's typical for long-time crypto holders.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He noted that historically, drawdowns from Bitcoin all-time highs have run somewhere between 80% and 90%.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He recounted his own crypto history: bought his first Bitcoin around $11,000 and kept buying down through $9,000, $6,000, and a large slug at $3,000 during 'crypto winter,' ultimately holding roughly 45 BTC and roughly 200-300 ETH; he sold about two-thirds of his Bitcoin around $64,000 and the remainder around $55,000-56,000, after which he moved into SPAC investing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He speculated (explicitly uncertain) that Bitcoin could fall further to $30,000-40,000, or could eventually retest its $126,000-128,000 high — 'who knows' — but said he would only buy a small amount at lower levels since crypto is not an asset he wants to hold in size.

AI Panic and the Software Sector Selloff

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He flagged the 'paradox' that software companies seen as AI-disruption targets (FactSet, S&P, Moody's, Morningstar) sold off sharply the same day, which he attributed — with some uncertainty ('I guess it was...') — to Anthropic announcing a new model able to produce a comprehensive research report that would otherwise take a human analyst days.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He argued AI-generated research reports are useful 'primers' but feel flat and lack human judgment, and that his own manual process of building financial models in a spreadsheet (citing his work on T1 Energy's equity offering, convertible notes, and 45X tax credit sale proceeds) is what actually helps him learn and understand a company, versus just reading an AI-generated summary.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He believes markets have swung too far in pricing in software's destruction by AI, drawing an analogy to the overreaction around April tariffs, which he said ultimately did not damage the economy as feared (with SPY recovering from below $500 to around $677) and in some respects helped by forcing manufacturing reshoring (citing new US semiconductor fabs and his T1 Energy solar investment).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He argued investors worried about AI disruption should favor 'hard physical industries' like energy and space, since AI cannot build or launch multi-ton satellites (though it could help operate them), also citing his investment in Strata Critical (a medical logistics/organ-transplant company) as similarly AI-resistant.

Macro Indicators: VIX, the Fed, and Inflation

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The VIX closed up about 17% at 21 on the day being discussed, and he said it could still go higher, to 30, 35, or 40.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    His personal rule of thumb, learned across the 2008 financial crisis, the US credit downgrade, COVID, and the April tariff tantrum: get aggressive allocating capital once VIX rises above 50 (extreme fear), and go 'all in' once VIX exceeds 70-80 — a threshold he says he's only seen twice in his career, hitting roughly 84 during COVID and roughly 90 during the 2008 financial crisis.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    On new Fed chair prospect Kevin Warsh (whom he described as hawkish), he speculated that despite the hawkish reputation, Warsh — viewing this as his 'last chance' — would likely align closely with Trump, including on cutting/accommodative policy, and that a hawkish background gives him useful cover to justify cuts.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Real-time inflation tracker Truflation showed year-over-year inflation dipping under 1% recently and back to roughly 1% at time of recording; he said Truflation data runs roughly 1-3 months ahead of official Fed data, contrasting this with a Fed governor's comments that inflation remains 'stubborn,' and cited a reversal/selloff in precious metals (which he'd previously flagged as an inflation concern) as additional evidence of disinflation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He flagged potential US conflict with Iran as a real exogenous market risk, but speculated markets could handle it 'okay' if the outcome were conventional/contained regime change without nuclear escalation (drawing a comparison to a 'Venezuela type' outcome), noting historically wars have often been economically positive.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He described the market's factor rotation: high-beta growth/momentum/revisions names selling off heavily while capital rotates into defensive sectors (dividends, consumer staples), even as the S&P 500 remained relatively close to its highs.

Portfolio and Risk Management: Margin, Options, and Trade Examples

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He recalled AST's earlier 'death march' down to $2, during which investors on margin kept averaging down (buying at $10, $8, $7, $6, $5) and got wiped out around $4, whereas investors who held a fixed share count without margin survived and ultimately benefited from the recovery.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He explained the risk of selling cash-secured puts in high-volatility periods: even if the underlying stock doesn't move, a spike in implied volatility can sharply inflate the value of an already-sold put (e.g., a put sold for $1 could become worth $3), and if the stock does fall sharply and the put goes in the money, the investor may be forced to take delivery of a stock that fell for a genuinely bad reason (e.g., a failed drug trial in biotech).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He similarly cautioned against covered calls, arguing sellers cap their upside while retaining full downside exposure, and that selling a call against a long stock position is economically equivalent to shorting an in-the-money synthetic put; he said modest covered-call income on a small position portion can make sense but sellers often have a false sense of security about the risk.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He does not think the ongoing deleveraging will push VIX to 40-50, estimating it might reach around 30 (versus roughly 22 at time of discussion), and characterized the liquidations so far as 'somewhat orderly' and across the board.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He warned against anchoring to a stock's prior high (e.g., investors who saw AST hit $130 and refuse to sell any shares on margin because they expect it to return there) as a reason to neglect margin balances, which can force forced selling if the stock later falls (e.g., to $70).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He recommended using pullbacks to 'upgrade' a portfolio — consolidating lower-conviction, less-understood positions into higher-conviction ones — when everything is trading down together at a correlation near 1, since marginal/speculative positions are typically the ones that get cut and can cause the most damage in a downturn.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    As an alternative to margin, he described selling some stock to buy call spreads (e.g., buying a call roughly 10% out of the money and shorting a call roughly 40% out of the money) to add leverage more cheaply during high-volatility periods, since a market rebound would compress volatility and let the short call be bought back cheaply.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He disclosed a personal trade: when AST fell to $50 in November (implied 2025), he sold roughly 2,000-3,000 shares and used part of the proceeds to buy January call spreads, which he said ultimately made him approximately $2-3 million when he closed the position with the stock around $90.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:43

    He advised setting a pre-planned profit-taking strategy — selling a portion of a position after it multiplies one's net worth by a chosen target, and setting aside money for taxes — so that subsequent drawdowns don't cause emotional distress; he said he repeatedly tells Kook to do this but Kook doesn't listen.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:39:43

    He recounted that when he exercised his AST warrants, he sold enough shares to cover taxes, pay off his mortgage, and buy a car, using leftover cash to invest in T1 Energy and in Satisfye (where roughly $47,000 of warrants grew to about $1.8 million).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:39:43

    Because he had taken some profit near AST's high $20s before its 2024 drawdown, the stock's later fall from about $39 (which he recalled as around August 2024) to $18 didn't affect him emotionally, unlike other investors who felt 'absolute dejection' at not having sold near the top.

AST SpaceMobile: Volatility in Context, SpaceX IPO, Apple Testing, and Spectrum

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:43

    Despite AST trading down to $91-92 intraday and hitting $87 after hours, he said he isn't emotionally affected given his long-term conviction, citing upcoming catalysts, the company being 'on the cusp' of launching commercial service, ongoing defense work, and the administration's focus on space.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He compared AST's price to Bitcoin's over time: in September 2024, when Bitcoin was near $60,000, AST traded around $24; now, with Bitcoin similarly near $65,000 after major deleveraging, AST trades in the $90s (down from a $130 high), which he says reflects substantial fundamental progress despite the recent pullback.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:45:59

    He recalled Verizon's 2024 MOU — including a $100 million investment and contribution of 850 MHz spectrum — as a surprise 'gotcha moment' nobody had priced in, since he'd assumed AT&T had US exclusivity; he said this catalyzed broader military interest in the company.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He is bullish heading into the anticipated SpaceX IPO, arguing that beyond the rational sizing of the comms, military, and data-center opportunity, the resulting attention and 'euphoria' will surprise to the upside for the direct-to-device sector broadly.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:45:59

    He highlighted that Apple has been testing iPhone 17 hardware on the 700/800 MHz bands used by AT&T and Verizon (AST's frequencies), as well as a 600 MHz test and T-Mobile's 1.9 GHz band used by Starlink, tying this to an October report from The Information (which he believes was leaked by SpaceX) alleging SpaceX was secretly working with Apple to test Starlink phone service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He speculated that AT&T's pending acquisition of EchoStar's nationwide, unused 20 MHz x 20 MHz block of 600 MHz spectrum could be a 'game changer' if AT&T dedicates it to AST service, and that Verizon might then follow suit and dedicate spectrum for AST as well.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He suggested Apple should consider making a strategic investment in AST SpaceMobile to control its own connectivity 'destiny' as SpaceX/Starlink increasingly moves toward offering its own phone hardware and mobile service.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:45:59

    He referenced reports citing '3 sources familiar with the matter' that Elon Musk/SpaceX is working on a mobile phone and mobile service, which Musk had hinted at publicly before walking the comments back the same day, which Anpanman attributed to pushback from SpaceX's own MNO-partnership team.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He speculated SpaceX could ultimately build its own phone operating system, drawing an analogy to how Elon Musk built xAI from scratch and noting Musk's pattern of not relying on others' technology across his companies.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:45:59

    He noted the broader space sector, along with next-generation nuclear, critical minerals, data centers, and quantum computing names, was 'heavily red' across the board during this deleveraging, with AST being one of the few relative outperformers on his watchlist.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He reiterated his view that AI will not disrupt the space sector or hard physical manufacturing (satellites, microns, processors, solar panels, radiation hardening) the way it may disrupt software, and that AI itself will ultimately be a consumer of AST's communications services and of data-center capacity.

Watch Items4

  • Continued margin-call-driven volatility and a potentially rough market open

    next trading morning Anpanman 00:00:28
  • SpaceX IPO and its expected effect on attention/valuation for the direct-to-device sector, including AST SpaceMobile

    not specified — anticipated but no firm date given Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Potential US conflict with Iran as a market risk factor

    'next few weeks' Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Whether VIX rises further toward 30 (or beyond) as deleveraging continues

    near-term, possibly within a day per Anpanman Anpanman 00:25:32

Open Questions5

  • Will VIX climb further (toward 30, 40, or 50+), and does that mean deeper market stress is still ahead or has the worst of this deleveraging already passed?

    Anpanman 00:25:32
  • Will AT&T actually dedicate its newly acquired 20x20 MHz block of EchoStar's 600 MHz spectrum to AST SpaceMobile's service, and would Verizon follow suit?

    Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Is SpaceX actually building a competing mobile phone and/or operating system and mobile service, and how would that affect its existing MNO partnerships and AST's competitive position?

    Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Will Apple make a strategic investment in AST SpaceMobile to secure its connectivity roadmap against SpaceX/Starlink?

    Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Will incoming Fed chair prospect Kevin Warsh actually pursue rate cuts despite his hawkish reputation?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
2026-02-05 46:17

Anpanman - The Apple Alpha: FCC Filings and the SpaceX Threat

Anpanman

In this solo episode, Anpanman explains that a broad crypto-driven risk-off sell-off (Bitcoin breaking below $70,000, Ethereum near $2,000) is dragging down AST SpaceMobile's stock along with the rest of the market, unrelated to company fundamentals.

The core content covers newly surfaced FCC filings (dated August 15, 2025) showing Apple testing iPhone hardware on the 700/800 MHz and PCS G block bands. That is spectrum only AST SpaceMobile can service among satellite operators. The episode also covers a Reuters report that SpaceX may build its own phone and satellite service.

Anpanman's headline conclusion: Apple's testing pattern plus SpaceX's vertical-integration ambitions both point toward AST SpaceMobile becoming the indispensable, neutral satellite partner for Apple, Google, Samsung, and the world's MNOs, both for direct-to-device connectivity and a longer-term space-based data center opportunity.

Key Takeaways

  • FCC filings dated August 15, 2025, surfaced by an X user Anpanman calls 'Katsy,' show Apple testing iPhone hardware for satellite/supplemental coverage from space on the 600 MHz, 700 MHz, 800 MHz, and PCS G block (1.9 GHz) cellular bands.
  • AST SpaceMobile is the only broadband satellite operator with spectrum access in the 700 MHz and 800 MHz bands, obtained via its AT&T, Verizon, and FirstNet partnerships, which Anpanman argues makes it the only operator capable of the seamless, indoor-capable satellite coverage Apple is reportedly targeting for iPhone 18.
  • Reuters reported that SpaceX/Elon Musk may be developing its own phone and satellite service; Anpanman argues this vertically integrated stack (hardware, OS, and connectivity) is an existential competitive threat to Apple, Google, Samsung, and T-Mobile, and would make AST SpaceMobile more strategically valuable as the neutral alternative partner.
  • Anpanman contends AST's architecture can beam down geographically fixed cells using low-band spectrum without interfering with existing terrestrial cell towers, unlike Starlink's higher-power, moving-beam architecture, which he says causes interference and cannot be deployed near carriers' existing spectrum.
  • Anpanman attributes the day's sell-off in ASTS to a market-wide, crypto-driven liquidation/de-grossing event rather than to any AST-specific news, and pushed back on an X user who claimed the Apple/SpaceX news would hurt the stock.
  • Anpanman flags that a New Glenn 3 launch of Block 2 BlueBird satellites is expected around the last week of February or could slip to the first week of March 2026 due to Cape Canaveral traffic from an Artemis mission and a Falcon 9 crew launch, and that FCC approval of AST's US commercial service application is described as imminent.
  • Anpanman raises the possibility that AST SpaceMobile's multi-ton, high-power satellites with onboard processing could eventually be repurposed for space-based data centers, a concept he ties to a recent Elon Musk claim that orbital data centers could reach parity with terrestrial ones within three years (which Anpanman calls very optimistic).

Detailed Discussion6 topics

Market Volatility and Crypto-Driven Risk-Off

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    A volatile morning of crypto liquidations is underway, with Bitcoin breaking below $70,000 and Ethereum potentially falling under $2,000; this reflects mass deleveraging by retail and institutional holders with cross-holdings in both crypto and high-beta stocks, which typically spills into other risk assets.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    The prior day saw momentum/growth and other high-beta or 'winning' sectors sell off hard versus value, dividend-yield, and consumer-staples names; Anpanman frames this as healthy consolidation after a strong start to the year, not something out of the ordinary.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Crypto's gains since Donald Trump won the presidency have now been completely wiped out, putting crypto around a 50% drawdown from highs; Anpanman notes 80-90% drawdowns are historically 'a feature, not a bug' for crypto and says he personally might start considering re-entering at a 60-70% drawdown, focused on blue chips like Bitcoin or Ethereum.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    An X user replied to Anpanman's post suggesting ASTS would go down because of the Apple/SpaceX news; Anpanman disagrees, stating the entire market is down due to crypto-driven risk liquidations and institutional de-grossing, not because of anything specific to this news.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Risk management advice: do not use margin during periods of high volatility; if using margin, do so judiciously with tight risk limits, and ask whether you could survive another 10-30% drawdown — if not, get off margin.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Compares the current drawdown to the April tariff scare, which in hindsight was a major buying opportunity rather than a lasting problem; cites Kook's comment during a weekend X Space that prior volatility events (COVID, the tariff scare, the 2011 US credit downgrade) all look like 'blips' in hindsight.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Notes current stock-price framing: 'if you liked it at $120, you'll love it at $98,' implying the stock has recently declined from around $120 to around $98.

Apple FCC Filings and Satellite Testing

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    FCC filings uncovered by an X user Anpanman refers to as 'Katsy' show Apple testing its phones for supplemental coverage from space across the 600 MHz, 700 MHz, and 800 MHz bands, plus the PCS G block; the filings themselves are dated August 15, 2025, though only surfaced publicly around the episode's recording.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Only one broadband satellite operator has spectrum presence in the 700 MHz and 800 MHz bands: AST SpaceMobile, via its partnerships with AT&T, Verizon, and FirstNet.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Recalls that roughly mid-2025 (around Q3 or over the summer), news leaked that Apple and Starlink were testing together, causing ASTS to drop 10-15% on FUD pushed by Musk-aligned accounts; Anpanman argues this was expected/unremarkable since Apple routinely tests its devices with every satellite service an MNO (in that case T-Mobile with Starlink) wants to use.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Separately, AST and Anpanman's community also found filings showing Apple testing with AST SpaceMobile in the context of setting NTN (non-terrestrial network) standards.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Spectrum band ownership context: 600 MHz (low-band) is primarily T-Mobile's, acquired via the Sprint merger and a spectrum auction; 700 MHz and 800 MHz are primarily AT&T and Verizon; the PCS G block (1.9 GHz, mid-band) is the spectrum Starlink currently uses to serve T-Mobile phones.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    Responding to a Globalstar investor's counterargument that Globalstar is the only satellite operator with an actual Apple investment (Apple owns 85% of capacity in Globalstar's SBB joint venture, into which Globalstar contributed spectrum and constellation), Anpanman notes this particular FCC filing contains no Globalstar spectrum (L-band and S-band, around 2.4 GHz) — meaning this specific iPhone 17 testing filing points only to AST SpaceMobile and Starlink spectrum, not Globalstar.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:28

    Citing an Apple-focused news site, Anpanman says Apple reportedly plans for iPhone 18 to work seamlessly with satellite connectivity — unlike Globalstar's current service, which requires the user to go outside and keep the phone pointed at the satellite — with the goal that users won't notice switching between the terrestrial network and satellite.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Argues that truly seamless, in-pocket, indoor-capable satellite service is only physically achievable using low-band cellular spectrum, and that AST SpaceMobile is the only provider positioned to deliver that — not Globalstar, not Starlink.

Spectrum Physics: Low-Band vs. Mid-Band, Fixed Cells vs. Moving Beams

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Low-band cellular spectrum (roughly 600-900 MHz, primarily 800 MHz) propagates through multiple walls, which is why AT&T/Verizon service tends to work indoors, in cars, and even in NYC subways — this is the reason carriers value having a large trove of low-band spectrum.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Describes carrier spectrum strategy as a 'layered cake': low-band for broad coverage, mid-band for capacity, and high-band (5G) for very high speed but requiring line-of-sight/unobstructed conditions.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    T-Mobile historically had no low-band spectrum and poor indoor coverage in the 1990s-2000s as a mid-band-only carrier, until it gained low-band spectrum through the Sprint merger and a 600 MHz spectrum auction.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Starlink satellites are architected to work only with mid-band spectrum due to phased-array antenna element spacing and wavelength physics; the same satellites cannot be reconfigured to light up 600 MHz spectrum — an entirely new satellite would be required to serve low-band frequencies.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    AST's Block 1 and Block 2 satellites are low-band focused, covering roughly 600-900 MHz; the upcoming Block 3 satellites (the company's next constellation) will have more closely spaced antenna elements enabling mid-band spectrum coverage from about 1.5 GHz up to roughly 2.4-2.5 GHz, allowing use of acquired/partnered S-band and Ligado spectrum.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Starlink has only been allocated a 5x5 MHz channel at 1.9 GHz in the US.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    AST's fixed-cell beamforming lets satellites project stationary hexagonal coverage cells on the ground even as the satellite moves, allowing precise, pinpoint coverage of gaps (e.g., an example area between the Hamptons and New York City) without interfering with already-covered areas like NYC's existing terrestrial network — this is what lets carriers reuse their own cellular spectrum via AST and even decommission underused towers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Starlink's beams move with the satellite and operate at much higher power, which Anpanman says causes interference; as a result, no MNO wants Starlink operating near their cellular spectrum, since it would degrade the carrier's own terrestrial service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Estimates each AST low-band satellite can generate around 2,500 fixed cells, while Block 3 mid-band satellites will be able to generate around 10,000 fixed cells per satellite.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Notes Starlink acquired EchoStar's MSS spectrum as part of its mid-band strategy, aiming for dedicated nationwide coverage bands analogous to how AST is pursuing nationwide coverage via its Ligado spectrum deal.

SpaceX Phone and Service: Competitive Threat

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:28

    A Reuters report — from an outlet Anpanman says has had a 'somewhat checkered' recent accuracy record but which he believes is accurate here — indicates SpaceX is looking to eventually introduce its own phone and its own satellite service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Compares the implications to 'Avengers Endgame,' arguing Apple, Google, Samsung, and every global MNO 'should be shaking in your boots' because Elon Musk is coming after their core businesses; says AST SpaceMobile's strategic value 'shot up' with this news, though not yet reflected in the market given the broader risk-off day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Predicts a SpaceX phone would run Musk's own operating system rather than Apple's or Google's ecosystem, consistent with his broader AI ambitions — part of a deliberate Musk 'vertical stack' spanning hardware, OS, and connectivity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    A SpaceX phone would primarily rely on mid-band Starlink Direct-to-Cell spectrum, which Anpanman calls architecturally flawed: it can't support voice over LTE (must use VoIP) because satellite handoffs occur every 2-3 minutes, making voice calls choppy; indoor use would also be poor, potentially requiring a separate Starlink fixed-wireless router/Wi-Fi setup at home.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Expects the service to be pretty bad in dense, high-user areas but decent for data in suburban or remote areas.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Predicts T-Mobile could ultimately be forced into an MVNO-style roaming agreement with SpaceX/Starlink (similar to Boost Mobile or Mint Mobile arrangements), since having introduced the Starlink brand to its customers already, T-Mobile risks losing subscribers to a SpaceX-branded phone and service unless it partners and collects roaming fees.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Frames the dynamic as a 'prisoner's dilemma' among MNOs: whichever carrier partners with SpaceX risks having its subscriber base hollowed out, but may get hollowed out regardless if it doesn't partner.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    Argues this is also a major competitive threat to Apple (iPhone-driven growth/profitability), Google (Android ecosystem), and Samsung; says the probability of Apple and Starlink working closely together is now 'probably zero,' beyond the minimum device-certification testing required, because Apple won't help a company that is itself entering the phone-hardware business compete against it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Concludes that AST SpaceMobile becomes the critical neutral strategic partner — outside the SpaceX/Tesla/xAI ecosystem — for Apple, Google, Samsung, and the ~50 MNOs globally that AST partners with, both for direct-to-device communications and, longer term, for data centers.

Data Centers in Space

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Describes AST SpaceMobile as the only non-legacy-prime company building multi-ton (4-6 ton) satellites capable of generating around 100 kilowatts of power with onboard processing — effectively already performing data-center-like functions today, but for communications.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Notes AST holds roughly 3,800 patents that could be leveraged, along with re-architected satellites and different onboard processors, to pivot toward building actual space-based data centers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    References an Elon Musk tweet or interview from that morning claiming space-based data centers could reach parity with terrestrial data centers within 3 years; Anpanman calls this 'very optimistic' but agrees directionally that space-based computing is where things are headed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Argues AST becomes central to a coming 'battle for space-based computing and communication' against the SpaceX/Musk ecosystem, given AST's existing relationships with Apple, Google, AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone, Orange, and Telefonica — companies that also run fiber, data-center, and hosting businesses of their own.

Company Catalysts and Investment Framing

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Reiterates that AST is 'ramping up to production of 12 satellites a month,' and speculates that once constellation buildout no longer requires that production rate, the company will need a new use for that capacity — implicitly, data centers.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Recalls that when AST's stock was around $2 (before the AT&T and Verizon commercial agreements were signed), signing those deals triggered a wave of interest from the Space Development Agency, the Department of Defense, and other military-related parties who began calling the company — referencing a presentation given by Michael Pollack as the source of this history.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Speculates that a hypothetical future announcement of Apple working closely with AST, or investing (he floats a hypothetical figure of 'a billion dollars') alongside Google's existing investment, would be 'game-changing' for the stock, though he doesn't know if or when this might happen — possibly weeks or months out.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    States the company does not use the press to leak information the way SpaceX does with 'trial balloons'; AST is tight-lipped and 'just executes,' disclosing developments (including any Apple relationship) only when appropriate.

Watch Items3

  • New Glenn 3 launch of Block 2 BlueBird satellites

    Expected last week of February 2026, with possible slip into the first week of March 2026 due to Cape Canaveral traffic from an Artemis mission and a Falcon 9 crew launch Anpanman 00:00:28
  • FCC approval of AST SpaceMobile's application for US commercial service

    Described as imminent, could happen 'anytime' Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Possible announcement of a formal Apple partnership with or investment in AST SpaceMobile

    Uncertain — speculatively 'weeks or months' out, not confirmed Anpanman 00:00:28

Open Questions4

  • Will Apple's satellite testing with AST SpaceMobile be publicly disclosed, and if so, when?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Will Apple eventually formalize a strategic partnership with or investment in AST SpaceMobile, similar to Google's existing investment?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Will SpaceX actually launch its own phone and service, and if so, will T-Mobile end up forced into an MVNO/roaming agreement with Starlink as a result?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Has SpaceX developed MIMO capability or a plan to serve multiple satellites per cell for its mid-band Direct-to-Cell service, given the capacity limitations Anpanman describes?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
2026-02-04 53:01

Anpanman - Conviction Over Chaos: Navigating the Space Sector Pullback

Anpanman

In this solo X Spaces episode (published 2026-02-04), Anpanman addresses a broad pullback across space, nuclear, and battery growth stocks. He argues it's healthy sector-wide de-risking and hedge-fund de-grossing rather than anything company-specific to AST SpaceMobile.

He explicitly rejects the idea that AT&T's new Amazon Leo fixed-wireless partnership is driving ASTS down. He walks through pod-shop/multi-strategy hedge fund risk mechanics (leverage, drawdown limits, de-grossing) to explain why retail investors without margin have an edge in volatile days.

He details his own trades and 'know what you own' portfolio-consolidation philosophy. He closes with macro views — a dovish new Fed chair expected, skepticism of Jim Chanos's space-data-center bear thesis — plus a Cape Canaveral launch-pad congestion update affecting the next BlueBird shipment.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman attributes the February 2026 pullback in ASTS and peer high-growth names (space, next-gen nuclear, batteries) to sector-wide 'beta' and institutional de-grossing/de-risking, not to company-specific problems, noting ASTS was down about 13% versus peers down roughly 11-18% the same day.
  • Anpanman explicitly says AT&T's newly announced partnership with Amazon Leo for enterprise fixed-wireless connectivity is a different market from AST SpaceMobile's direct-to-cell business and dismisses the idea that this news caused ASTS's stock decline that day.
  • Anpanman explains that hedge fund 'pod shops' running 2-3x leverage under tight drawdown limits are forced to 'de-gross' (cover shorts, sell longs) during volatility, which pulls liquidity from the market and produces the outsized price swings retail investors observe.
  • Anpanman's investing philosophy is to 'know what you own': high-conviction positions should be held or added to during drawdowns, while low-conviction/speculative positions are the ones investors panic-sell, and volatile days are a chance to consolidate low-conviction names into high-conviction ones.
  • Anpanman disclosed his own trading that day: adding to AST SpaceMobile (stock and calls) and T1 Energy, small additions to Bridger, Strata Critical, Velo, and Kraken, and selling a small 'Power Bank' position to consolidate into ASTS.
  • Anpanman says he typically trades only about 2-3% (up to a max of ~5%) of his portfolio around a core buy-and-hold position, does not use margin (partly because E-Trade restricts margin on ASTS and T1 Energy), and is not touching over 90% of his core, low-cost-basis AST SpaceMobile position.
  • Anpanman rejects Jim Chanos's argument that space-based data centers would eliminate the terminal value of terrestrial data centers, saying the cost per kilogram to orbit needs to fall significantly before space data centers are competitive, and that AI demand should support growth in both Earth-based and orbital compute.
  • Anpanman expects Cape Canaveral launch-pad congestion (Artemis activity, a Crew Dragon Falcon 9 launch, construction, and a Falcon 9 anomaly investigation) to delay AST SpaceMobile's next satellite shipment until the launch providers are ready to receive and process it, with the near-term launch (Blue Origin New Glenn 3 with FM-2) expected no earlier than the end of February 2026.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

Market pullback context and sector-wide beta

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Opens by framing the day's volatility as an expected pullback that had been consensus among institutions for February, noting that the sectors he invests in (space, nuclear, batteries) are up substantially this year and last year, so pullbacks are natural.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Notes Bitcoin selling off to $73,000, which is lower than when Trump entered the presidency, and says he hasn't owned Bitcoin in a long time (sold his prior position around $64,000 with an average cost basis of about $5,000); says crypto weakness is bad for risk assets broadly because correlated investors sell winners to cover losses elsewhere.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Cites specific same-day declines across the sector to argue the move is broad-based, not company-specific: T1 Energy down 17.5%, EOS (batteries) down 17.5%, Rocket Lab down 14%, Redwire down 13%, Planet Labs down 13%, Intuitive Machines down 17%, Karman down 15%, and defense name Kratos down 15%.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says concern about a potential conflict in Iran contributed to weak headlines earlier in the day, but argues the bigger driver of the pullback was worry sparked by Anthropic's new software tools and fears that AI could disrupt the software industry, noting the software ETF was nearing its April 2025 tariff-scare lows.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Notes quantum names also fell (IonQ down 11.5%, Rigetti down 10%) and AI/data-center-adjacent names were hit hard (Cipher down 19%, IREN down 17%, MARA down 11%, NBIS down 12%), plus AMD down roughly 16.5-17% despite beating and raising guidance, and Palantir down 13.4% and Robinhood down 10%, to show the decline was market-wide, not sector-specific.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Cites Bloomberg factor data for the day: value up ~2%, dividend-yield stocks up 1.8%, buyback companies up 1.6%, while momentum was down 4.5%, growth down 2.5%, and 3-month-EPS-revision names down 2.2% — evidence of broad factor rotation rather than an ASTS-specific issue.

AT&T / Amazon Leo news and why it isn't the cause of ASTS weakness

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Responds directly to a listener (Tim Stobirski) who suggested AT&T choosing Amazon Leo for fixed satellite internet was driving ASTS down; explains AT&T's Amazon Leo partnership is for fixed wireless to connect enterprise customers far from fiber/wireless coverage — a different market from AST SpaceMobile's direct-to-cell service — and calls Amazon Leo complementary to, not competitive with, AST SpaceMobile (analogous to Starlink fixed-wireless-to-home vs. Starlink direct-to-cell).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Argues that at most this news might explain selling only among investors who don't understand the company well, and reiterates that the whole space/growth sector was down similarly that day, so sector beta — not this specific news — explains ASTS's move.

Hedge fund and pod-shop risk mechanics

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Explains that multi-strategy 'pod shop' hedge funds (a portfolio manager plus one to several analysts, sometimes teams of ~10) run tight risk/factor limits, so during sell-offs they are forced to de-risk, producing exaggerated downside moves due to their use of leverage.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Describes typical pod drawdown limits as an example: an initial drawdown limit around 5% triggers a partial capital cut, 7% triggers further cuts, and around 10% a pod is effectively 'tapped out' — illustrating why funds under these constraints face a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' choice between buying dislocations or de-risking to survive.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Gives a worked example: a $500 million book down 5% (-$25M) that falls another 2% (down $37.5M total) could get its capital cut in half to $250M, making that drawdown very hard to recover from — explaining why only a small fraction of pod teams at firms like Millennium or Citadel have longevity.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Defines 'de-grossing': a fund running e.g. 3x leverage ($500M AUM deploying $1.5B of longs and shorts combined) that de-grosses 'one turn' would cut deployed capital to $1B, meaning it covers shorts and sells longs simultaneously, pulling liquidity from the market — a dynamic he says was visible repeatedly during the 2008 financial crisis when funds under stress were targeted based on known holdings ('soup du jour').

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Contrasts this with individual retail investors who aren't running margin or reporting to LPs, arguing retail can go on the 'offense' during forced institutional selling — including tactics like selling stock to buy calls to add risk, or selling low-conviction names to buy more of high-conviction ones.

'Know what you own' and portfolio consolidation philosophy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Argues that positions bought on a hot tip or in a hurry, without real understanding, are the first ones investors panic-sell during volatility ('negative gamma' — buying high on hype, selling low on fear), whereas genuine conviction in a name makes investors more likely to hold or add during a 10-20% drawdown.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Describes using down days to 'upgrade' a portfolio: if a low-conviction name is down 25% and a high-conviction name is down 20%, sell the low-conviction name and add to the high-conviction one.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he holds Vodafone 2027 LEAPS ($15 and $17 strike calls) that are up roughly 3-3.5x, and is tempted to monetize some to redeploy elsewhere but is holding because he retains conviction in the trade.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    States that if ASTS were down 30-40% while the rest of the sector was down only ~10%, that would signal a real company-specific problem, but since ASTS was down about 13% in line with the sector's 11-18% range that day, it's simply sector beta, not a company issue.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Frames the pullback as a good entry point for investors who have been on the sidelines, while cautioning that a short (1-2 year) time horizon risks 'buying the top,' whereas a 5-year view (analogous to buying real estate in New York or California through market cycles) should work out for names with strong long-term fundamentals.

Anpanman's own trading activity and position sizing

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Discloses buying AST SpaceMobile stock and call options today (some a bit early, more on the way down), adding to T1 Energy, and making small additions to Bridger, Strata Critical, and Kraken (sonar/battery systems supplier for underwater unmanned vehicles), plus a small addition to Velo, a highly volatile name he trades around opportunistically.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Says he sold a small 'Power Bank' position today specifically to consolidate the proceeds into ASTS.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Explains he trades only about 2-3% of his portfolio (up to a maximum of ~5%), mostly within a tax-advantaged account, and is not touching over 90% of his core AST SpaceMobile position because of its very low cost basis; a few weeks ago he monetized a speculative AST option position for proceeds of a few million dollars and used it to buy back AST stock.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he doesn't hold Rocket Lab currently (though he has in the past and finds it tempting) because he views space names as highly correlated with each other, and his highest conviction is concentrated in AST SpaceMobile rather than spreading exposure across similar names.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Says he doesn't have a strong view on data-center/AI infrastructure names like IREN because he hasn't followed them closely, but notes they were all down heavily that day similar to other tech sectors (e.g., Palantir -13.4%, Robinhood -10%, AMD -17%).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Mentions he owns Pagaya (consumer credit exposure) via warrants; the stock has taken a hit amid consumer-credit-market concerns, but he considers himself 'set and forget' on the warrants and is still up overall, citing continued company execution.

Community sentiment as a bottom indicator

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he watches the AST SpaceMobile Reddit community's sentiment as an informal bottom indicator — when sentiment turns very negative and long-standing bears get upvoted, it has tended to mark a tradable bottom; he says someone told him Reddit was 'flashing all the indicators' that day, though he hadn't checked it himself.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Describes a separate top-indicator he's noticed: when Twitter chatter starts hyping 'the next AST' or 'the next T1 Energy,' that kind of euphoria for copycat ideas can signal the market is overextended and due for a pullback.

ASTS price levels and market outlook

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he thinks $100 is roughly the current support level for ASTS, with the stock trading just under that; recalls that $20 was viewed as the prior support level in the first part of 2025, where the stock consolidated for a long time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Responding to a listener asking about a possible drop to $50, says he doesn't think ASTS goes that low, citing upcoming catalysts including commercial service launch, military awards, and the broader space-sector interest tied to the SpaceX IPO.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he does not believe the broader market is entering a bearish trend, viewing the current pullback as healthy consolidation rather than a trend change, while acknowledging elevated uncertainty specifically around software and consumer-credit names.

Macro: Fed chair outlook and inflation

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Discusses market concern that an incoming new Fed chair nominee, who has previously made hawkish comments, could be bad for markets, but argues Trump likely selected someone who will be dovish/accommodative on rates given the administration's political incentives, drawing an analogy to Marco Rubio's shift from anti-Trump to fully aligned with the administration.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says alternative inflation measures suggest inflation is still trending down, and his main lingering macro concern is speculative excess in commodities like silver and gold rather than in equities.

Space data centers vs. terrestrial data center terminal value (Jim Chanos debate)

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    Notes Jim Chanos, already bearish on data centers as a bubble, tweeted that if space-based data centers become a reality, terrestrial data centers would have no terminal value; Anpanman calls this 'absurd' and says it 'makes zero sense.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Argues the cost per kilogram to orbit needs to fall significantly before space-based data centers can be cost-competitive with terrestrial ones, and that reality is 'far' from that point currently, though he believes space data centers will eventually happen.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Compares current AI infrastructure buildout concerns to the dot-com bubble's overbuilding of fiber/optical networks, but argues today's AI use cases are grounded in real practical demand (unlike some dot-com-era business ideas), so while some overbuild and pullback is likely, he thinks 'it's different this time' — with the caveat that this is a commonly famous-last-words line.

Tax-lot management and account structure

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Explains that in tax-advantaged accounts, cost basis of individual lots doesn't matter for tax purposes (only total contributions and eventual withdrawals matter), but in taxable accounts, investors should actively select tax lots to sell in order to control gains — e.g., if ASTS was bought years ago at a cost basis of $5 and again today at $98, selling later at $110-120 should target the $98 lot to minimize taxable short-term gain rather than triggering a large gain on the $5 lot.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Notes brokerages offer different tax-lot selection methods (LIFO, FIFO, or an automatic tax-efficient-optimal setting, citing E-Trade as an example) and recommends investors understand which method their broker uses.

Cape Canaveral launch-pad congestion and next BlueBird shipment

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:50

    Says there is a backup at Cape Canaveral due to Artemis activity, a Crew Dragon Falcon 9 launch, ongoing construction, and limited launch-pad/processing capacity, compounded by a recent SpaceX Falcon 9 anomaly that requires investigation; says AST will not ship its next satellite batch until the launch site is ready to receive and process it, to avoid straining the relationship with launch providers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:50

    States his 'base case' expectation is that the next near-term launch will be Blue Origin New Glenn 3 carrying FM-2, no earlier than the end of the current month, and that 1-2 additional launches could follow before March 30-31, for a total of about 4 launches in that window — while acknowledging it could slip to 3 launches with 2 more shortly after.

Watch Items4

  • Blue Origin New Glenn 3 launch carrying FM-2 (BlueBird)

    No earlier than the end of the current month (Anpanman's base case, stated in a February 2026 episode) Anpanman 00:51:50
  • 1-2 additional BlueBird launches beyond New Glenn 3/FM-2

    Anpanman's base case is these occur before March 30-31, for roughly 4 total launches in the window; could slip to 3 with 2 more shortly after Anpanman 00:51:50
  • Next AST SpaceMobile satellite batch shipment to Cape Canaveral

    Delayed until Cape Canaveral launch pads/processing facilities are ready to receive it, given congestion from Artemis, a Crew Dragon Falcon 9 launch, construction, and a Falcon 9 anomaly investigation — no specific date given Anpanman 00:51:50
  • New Fed chair nomination and confirmation outcome

    Pending; no specific date given Anpanman 00:00:25

Open Questions4

  • Is the broader market entering a bearish trend, or is this simply a healthy pullback within an ongoing uptrend?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Will the incoming new Fed chair actually govern hawkishly despite having made hawkish comments in the past?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Will $100 hold as the new support level for ASTS, or could the stock fall further (e.g., toward $50) before catalysts like commercial service launch and military awards materialize?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • When exactly will Cape Canaveral launch-pad and processing congestion clear enough for AST to ship its next satellite batch?

    Anpanman 00:51:50
2026-02-03 21:19

Anpanman - Why the SpaceX-xAI Merger Changes Everything

Anpanman

In a solo commentary episode, Anpanman argues that the market badly misread Tuesday's SpaceX-xAI merger news, selling off space stocks on fears the SpaceX IPO will be delayed.

In fact, he says, a private-to-private deal between parties who already know each other (no HSR antitrust review needed) can close in a matter of weeks, keeping a June or possibly July IPO in play.

He frames the real story as strategic. Elon Musk's vertical integration in space now puts pressure on every other tech giant (Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple) to develop their own space and space-data-center strategy.

That, he argues, makes AST SpaceMobile, along with Rocket Lab, Voyager, Redwire, Intuitive Machines, and Karman, increasingly valuable as scarce, flight-proven partners for building infrastructure in space. He closes by predicting a coming surge in demand for space-hardened hardware (solar arrays, memory, processors) as data centers move into orbit.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman argues the space-sector sell-off following the SpaceX-xAI merger announcement is a market overreaction based on a misunderstanding of merger mechanics, since a private-to-private deal between related parties (Elon Musk on both sides) with no antitrust (HSR) overlap can close in weeks rather than the 4-8 months typical of public-to-public mergers.
  • Anpanman believes SpaceX's S-1 drafting for its planned IPO can proceed in parallel with the xAI merger closing, meaning a June or possibly July 2026 IPO target is still achievable if the SEC is cooperative, despite needing to incorporate xAI's business overview, risks, and pro forma financials.
  • Anpanman frames the SpaceX-xAI combination as a wake-up call for Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple, forcing them to develop their own space strategy because Elon Musk's vertical integration gives him a structural advantage in eventually building data centers in space for AI compute.
  • Anpanman positions AST SpaceMobile as a natural partner (not primarily an acquisition target) for big tech companies seeking space infrastructure expertise, citing Google's existing investments in both Planet Labs and AST SpaceMobile as a template for this kind of strategic relationship.
  • Anpanman names Rocket Lab, Voyager, Redwire, Intuitive Machines, and Karman alongside AST SpaceMobile as companies with scarce, flight-proven space expertise that will be in high demand as tech giants look for alternatives or partners outside SpaceX's ecosystem.
  • Anpanman predicts the push toward data centers in space will meaningfully increase demand for launch services (benefiting SpaceX and other launch providers even amid new 2027 launch capacity) and create what he calls a functionally unlimited addressable market for space-hardened hardware suppliers (solar arrays, memory chips, processors, storage).
  • Anpanman argues SpaceX will face increasing pressure to grow external commercial launch revenue (beyond just launching its own satellites) because xAI is not currently profitable and will require ongoing outside capital, on top of the capital needs of a space-data-center buildout.

Detailed Discussion4 topics

SpaceX-xAI Merger and IPO Timeline

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:30

    Anpanman opens by saying he was largely absent the prior day due to a basement flood from a neighbor's burst pipe that kept him up until 2am, but says he was still thinking about the SpaceX-xAI merger throughout and wanted to share thoughts on why he believes the market's reaction to the news was wrong.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman states that looking at yesterday's stock price reactions, he thinks the market 'just totally doesn't get it,' and that unlike close followers of the sector, he views the SpaceX-xAI merger announcement as incredibly bullish, with the only real negative risk being that Elon Musk's targeted June IPO for SpaceX could slip somewhat.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman explains merger mechanics: a public-to-public merger via tender process could close in as little as ~45 days at the short end, but typically takes 4 to 8 months; however, because the SpaceX-xAI deal is a private transaction where the buyer and seller are effectively the same person/party (Elon Musk and shareholders who know each other), and the companies don't compete or overlap (so no HSR antitrust review is needed), he expects the deal to close in a handful of weeks.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman says the bankers selected for the SpaceX IPO have likely already started drafting an S-1, which will need extra work to incorporate xAI's business overview, risks, and pro forma financials, but that this drafting can occur in parallel with the merger closing rather than delaying the process.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman concludes that if SpaceX and its bankers 'work their asses off' and the SEC is amenable and cooperative, a June or possibly July IPO is still achievable, and that yesterday's space-sector sell-off was driven by a mistaken assumption that the IPO would be delayed by 1-5 months.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:30

    Anpanman credits Redrum with summarizing the situation well in a post that morning discussing how SpaceX and xAI are working together, framing it as the trigger for his own analysis.

Big Tech's Space Race and AST SpaceMobile's Role

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman argues the SpaceX-xAI combination 'lights a fire under everyone's ass' among AI players who weren't previously prioritizing space, including OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic as the key AI players, plus Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple (whom he describes as 'pretty far behind'), and international players like Samsung.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:30

    Anpanman notes Google has already been thinking about space, citing its existing investment in and initial work with Planet Labs, as well as its investment and strategic partnership with AST SpaceMobile, as evidence.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman's core thesis: projecting 5-10 years out, the ability to build data centers in space becomes a major competitive advantage for a vertically integrated Elon Musk, forcing every compute-dependent AI company to figure out who to partner with in space; AST SpaceMobile, though focused on direct-to-device and military applications, already has building blocks that could support space data centers, making it a natural partner for these companies (whether through technology partnership, strategic investment, or joint ventures).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman says he thinks it is not a high probability that a big tech company acquires AST SpaceMobile outright, believing the company has more value as an independent player providing wholesale data and other services; if an acquisition did happen, he says it would need to be by an entity that preserves AST's neutrality among carriers, citing Google as one example of a company that could make sense.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman extends the argument to Tesla, saying any company competing with any part of Elon Musk's vertically integrated empire will need to find a space partner with relevant expertise and capability.

Other Space Companies as Strategic Assets (Rocket Lab, Voyager, Redwire, etc.)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman names AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, Voyager, Redwire, Intuitive Machines, and Karman (transcribed as 'Carmen') as companies that become strategically important because of their expertise and know-how delivering systems in space.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman highlights Rocket Lab specifically: it currently does small launch, is moving into medium launch, and builds space systems including solar-hardened gallium arsenide solar arrays — technology he expects to be in high demand.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:30

    Anpanman recalls (with uncertainty — 'I think it was last summer') stories that OpenAI had looked at potentially investing in or merging with Rocket Lab, framing this as an early example of the kind of concrete partnership moves he expects to accelerate over the next few months as companies build alternatives to SpaceX.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman describes the dynamic among space companies as 'coopetition' — cooperating while also competing — noting SpaceX's Falcon 9 continues to launch competitors' payloads, and he doesn't expect that to change.

Pressure on SpaceX's Launch Business and Broader Hardware Demand

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman says he briefly caught up with Kook the previous night, and relays that this merger puts tremendous pressure on SpaceX to make money because xAI does not make money and is described as 'a big furnace' that needs continuous funding to improve.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman argues SpaceX will need to be more aggressive bringing on external commercial launch customers (rather than only launching its own satellites) because xAI will require ongoing money and investment, and the push toward data centers in space will also require significant capital; he notes Starlink itself remains a strong cash cow generating substantial revenue and free cash flow.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman argues the push into space data centers will itself create a new source of launch demand, which is a positive for all launch providers even though a large amount of new launch capacity is already coming online in 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman argues that while terrestrial data-center hardware suppliers like SanDisk, Micron, and Western Digital face some limits to demand on Earth, building data centers in space creates what he calls a functionally 'unlimited' total addressable market for memory chips, processors, and hard drives — which would still be manufactured on Earth but shipped to space in large volumes — benefiting hardware makers and solar companies broadly.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman predicts that sell-side analysts will eventually catch on to this narrative, perhaps within a few weeks, and recognize that there are only a small number of companies capable of executing this space data-center build-out, making them the ones to invest in.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:30

    Anpanman closes by saying he has to leave to meet a service provider coming to pump his flooded basement, signing off before reconnecting later.

Watch Items3

  • SpaceX IPO

    Targeted for June, possibly slipping to July 2026 Anpanman 00:00:30
  • SpaceX-xAI merger closing

    Anpanman expects closing within 'a handful of weeks' from the announcement Anpanman 00:00:30
  • Sell-side analyst recognition of the space-data-center narrative

    Anpanman estimates possibly within a few weeks of the episode Anpanman 00:00:30

Open Questions3

  • Will AST SpaceMobile end up as a strategic partner, joint-venture participant, or investment target for a major tech company, or could it eventually be acquired despite Anpanman viewing that as low-probability?

    Anpanman 00:00:30
  • Which specific big tech company (Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, or others) will move first to secure space infrastructure partnerships in response to the SpaceX-xAI merger?

    Anpanman 00:00:30
  • Will the SpaceX IPO timeline (June or July target) actually hold, or will the merger process cause a delay despite Anpanman's expectation of a fast private-transaction close?

    Anpanman 00:00:30
2026-02-02 59:48

Kook's Weekly - February 1 - Why AST SpaceMobile is Built for Superiority

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' episode (Feb 1, 2026), Kook argues that current macro-driven volatility in ASTS stock is noise that will look trivial in hindsight, similar to Netflix's invisible 2008 drawdown. He uses the week's news to build the case that AST SpaceMobile is becoming a strategic national-security asset.

The core evidence: the hire of 28-year Raytheon missile-defense veteran Mike Williams, AST's expanding role in the Golden Dome/MDA SHIELD defense architecture, and sworn AT&T Senate testimony affirming AST was chosen as the best solution.

He also points to an aggressive global spectrum-aggregation push: an EU 2 GHz MSS filing, a new 5 MHz US spectrum filing, and Ligado's filing moving toward public notice.

Kook's headline conclusion is that between defense-sector validation, a collaborative international partnership model (contrasted with Starlink's more disruptive approach), and a total addressable market Deutsche Bank now pegs at 1.75 billion users, AST SpaceMobile has the potential to become a 'Magnificent Seven'-scale company.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook argues short-term volatility (ASTS was down about $25 from its recent peak as of Friday morning) is irrelevant to long-term secular winners, citing Netflix's 33% drawdown during the 2008 financial crisis as now invisible on a long-term chart.
  • AST SpaceMobile hired Mike Williams, a 28-year Raytheon veteran and former missile defense chief, as director for system integration, test, and operations for federal programs — Kook frames this as strong validation since Williams is likely joining primarily for equity upside rather than cash compensation.
  • Kook frames AST's potential role in the Golden Dome missile-defense architecture across three layers: tracking (5G-signal disturbance used radar-like to detect objects penetrating airspace), transport (near-instantaneous global data dissemination via satellite, bypassing terrestrial delays), and custody (maintaining track of detected threats) — with the ultimate mix of roles still uncertain.
  • An FCC docket researcher nicknamed 'Katsy'/'KATSE' found six 'ghost filings' — redacted records with no visible links — in an AST-related FCC docket, suggesting undisclosed regulatory activity behind the scenes.
  • AT&T executives gave sworn Senate testimony that they evaluated available options and selected AST SpaceMobile as the best public-safety connectivity solution for connectivity, capacity, resiliency, and performance — testimony Kook cites to rebut 'vaporware' claims about AST.
  • Deutsche Bank now estimates a realistic total addressable market of 1.75 billion users globally for AST SpaceMobile, which Kook cites as evidence the company could reach 'Magnificent Seven' scale; by contrast, William Blair's more conservative model forecasts only $685 million of AST revenue in 2030.
  • Kook cites SpaceX's reported $16 billion total revenue (with $10 billion from Starlink) as evidence of large market demand for satellite connectivity, arguing AST's mobile-focused opportunity (likened to 'Facebook Mobile' vs. Starlink as 'Facebook Desktop') should ultimately be larger.
  • AST and Vodafone (via their SatCo joint venture) submitted a confidential response in the EU's process for allocating 2 GHz MSS spectrum, refuting analyst Tim Farrar's claim that AST/Vodafone hadn't even applied for it.
  • AST filed with the FCC seeking a 5 MHz sliver of 2 GHz spectrum in the US that sits between EchoStar's and SpaceX's existing spectrum holdings, which Kook frames as either a genuine spectrum grab or a bargaining chip for international spectrum trades.
  • Kook expects the FCC's approval of AST's full US SCS/direct-to-cell constellation market grant could come 'any day,' though he cautions that, given typical FCC timelines, that could still mean February or March.
  • Kook contrasts AST's collaborative approach with local partners (e.g., ISRO in India, Vodafone's SatCo in Europe) against Starlink's more disruptive approach, arguing this explains why India rejected a Starlink constellation application (citing incomplete D2C regulations) while AST may fare better given its ISRO partnership and high-profile relationships including Indian PM Modi.
  • The Ligado spectrum-lease FCC filing has been accepted for public notice, another procedural step forward in AST's pursuit of long-term L-band spectrum access.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Market Volatility and Long-Term Investing Perspective

4
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook opens by noting he'd expected this kind of macro headwind, citing February's typical post-January-effect weakness, an unexpectedly prolonged government shutdown, and market anxiety over whether Iran gets bombed as the drivers of the current sell-off.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook recalls living through the 2008 Great Financial Crisis while at a hedge fund and says that in hindsight, Netflix's chart shows no visible trace of the crisis despite a 33% peak-to-trough drawdown at the time; he draws the same comparison to Microsoft's April 2025 drawdown, now barely visible as a 'buy the dip' moment.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook states ASTS was already down $25 from its peak as of Friday morning, calling the stock's volatility 'astounding,' and says a little further 'blow-off' is his base case for February, though it may have already happened.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook argues that although the stock currently has no cash flow, the market is pricing in a future inflection to significant cash flow, and that understanding AST's underlying technology (not just financial multiples) is essential to understanding the investment opportunity, since the platform has multiplying use cases beyond simple communications.

Talent Influx: Mike Williams and Defense Hiring

4
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook highlights the hire of Mike Williams as director at AST for system integration, test, and operations for federal programs; Williams spent 28 years at Raytheon as missile defense chief before joining AST.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook argues that senior defense-prime veterans like Williams have secure pensions, prestige, and comfortable careers, so leaving after 28 years signals a genuinely compelling opportunity; he notes Williams is 'almost assuredly' not joining for cash compensation, since the bulk of wealth at AST historically comes from equity grants, meaning new hires are effectively making a big bet on the stock.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook cites a Tough4R analysis noting the hiring of radar experts 'Walcott' and Williams from Raytheon as signaling AST is bolstering its defense capabilities, with phased-array expertise potentially adapting AST's LEO satellites for radar applications like missile tracking and secure comms.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says he tries to track patterns of talent flow into AST as a signal — pointing to his years-old #MeetTheTeam Twitter series profiling AST employees — arguing that when experienced people 'YOLO' their careers into a company rather than just buying the stock, that's a stronger signal than retail buying alone.

AST's Role in Golden Dome / Missile Defense

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook lays out three potential layers where AST's technology could fit into missile-defense architecture: the tracking layer (sensing/locating missiles), the transport layer (moving large volumes of sensor data across space), and the custody layer (maintaining track of a detected threat/launcher).

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook explains that innovations in 5G technology can act like radar: as an object like a missile penetrates airspace, it disturbs an RF/5G signal field (he likens it to seeing 'the ones and zeros bend' in The Matrix), which AST's technology could exploit for tracking even though radar has historically been the domain of dedicated radar companies.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Even if AST doesn't end up providing the radar/tracking function itself, Kook argues AST is well positioned for the transport layer — enabling near-instantaneous global dissemination of missile-tracking data and bypassing terrestrial delays, enhancing real-time missile surveillance for the US government.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says it's unclear which of the three layers (tracking, transport, custody) AST will ultimately win, but doesn't think losing one layer is 'game over,' since the product roadmap and commercial pipeline will keep evolving.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook describes a finding by an FCC-docket researcher he calls 'Katsy'/'KATSE': the FCC's filing system shows row numbers for filings with no accessible links or content ('ghost filings'), and six such ghost filings were found in a relevant docket, suggesting redacted/undisclosed filings exist that require special privileges to view.

Industry Validation, Short-Seller Pushback, and AT&T Senate Testimony

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook cites a tweet from 'Only 6 Inches' relaying comments from an EchoStar expert who reportedly says AST is 'number one,' that Starlink will eventually compete directly against MNOs (creating channel conflict), and that AST's satellite size is technologically impressive.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:20:51

    Kook mocks a short seller who, when asked what would change his mind on AST, answered 'EBIT' — Kook counters that once the company has positive earnings before interest and taxes, the stock price will already have moved, since the market is pricing in a future cash-flow inflection now.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook draws an analogy to Tesla, recalling he once thought (but didn't trade on) the idea that revenue/cash flow could be a 'curse' once the market realized Tesla was 'just a car company' during the Model 3 ramp — but Tesla ultimately became a strong investment once revenue materialized, which he suggests is instructive for ASTS skeptics waiting to cover their shorts on positive EBIT.

  • Kook Untagged 00:20:51

    Kook notes AT&T's year-in-review commentary called AST SpaceMobile technology 'really cool,' but dismisses this as something skeptics could wave off as 'paid pumpers'; he instead points to AT&T's sworn Senate testimony as more credible evidence.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:20:51

    In Senate testimony, a senator asked AT&T whether it sought proposals before selecting AST SpaceMobile; AT&T's response, per Kook, was that it evaluated the solution and selected the best option for public safety based on the highest level of connectivity, capacity, resiliency, and performance.

  • Kook Untagged 00:20:51

    Kook cautions that AT&T's selection of AST as the best technical solution is not by itself a complete investment thesis — total addressable market, commercial strategy, and execution on production all still need to go right.

TAM and Comparisons to SpaceX/Starlink and 'Magnificent Seven' Scale

5
  • Kook Disagreement 00:20:51

    Kook notes the recurring bear argument even among shorts who concede the technology works is that the TAM is limited to niche use cases (he references the 'Yosemite tourist' who uses satellite service for 5 seconds to tweet a photo).

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook cites Sequoia Capital partner Shaun Maguire (who covers SpaceX for the firm) calling Starlink's direct-to-cell opportunity 'one of the biggest market opportunities ever,' arguing that Sequoia's institutional track record of spotting large markets lends credibility to the claim.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook cites broker figures he received showing SpaceX total revenue at $16 billion, of which $10 billion is Starlink revenue and growing quickly; he notes this doesn't fully explain SpaceX's reported $1.5 trillion valuation, which he attributes partly to Elon Musk's newly floated plan for a constellation of up to a million satellites to power AI data centers in space.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook argues that if Starlink (a fixed-broadband-like product) can generate $10 billion in revenue, AST's mobile-focused direct-to-cell opportunity should be larger, analogizing current Starlink to 'Facebook on desktop' and AST SpaceMobile to 'Facebook Mobile,' where mobile ultimately drove Facebook's growth.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook cites Zero Hedge noting the space sector was the dominant return driver in 2025 and that the same trend is repeating so far in 2026; he credits the Trump administration's redirection toward the Department of War/'space superiority' messaging and Goldman Sachs launching a 'GS Moon Index' as evidence institutional attention to the space theme is accelerating, while cautioning that heavy bank attention to a theme can sometimes mark a late stage (as with prior 'BRIC Index'-style trends).

Global Spectrum Strategy: Japan, Europe/SatCo, EU 2 GHz Spectrum, Ligado, Inmarsat

7
  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook cites a share from 'Elena Niera' (MIT) that Japan is calling for a national LEO infrastructure development project to reduce dependence on overseas constellations, similar to Europe's IRIS² initiative; Kook questions whether Japan can build its own constellation alone or whether it would make more economic sense to adopt a SatCo-like joint structure given its small population and the natural monopoly economics of satellite constellations.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook predicts Europe's SatCo (the AST/Vodafone European JV) will likely be up and operating well before Europe's IRIS² sovereign constellation, if IRIS² is ever operational at all.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook mentions a German ITU filing, flagged by researcher 'Katsy,' for an 'Arctic shell' related to SATCOM, noting Arctic shells are important for military use and suggesting this signals the intended (government/defense) user base for such a system.

  • Kook Untagged 00:32:53

    Kook mentions Inmarsat 'got basically a red card from a judge' recently, describing it only briefly as 'a different story,' and separately says the legal system is 'showing its integrity' in the ongoing AST-Ligado-Inmarsat adversary proceeding by keeping the case on track.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:32:53

    Kook discusses a race for 2 GHz MSS spectrum in Europe; he quotes analyst Tim Farrar mocking AST/Vodafone, claiming Orange avoided the word 'broadband' because it doesn't believe AST's claims, and that AST/Vodafone 'didn't even bother to submit comments' in the EU process. Kook rebuts this directly, stating AST/Vodafone did comment and that he is certain, based on his own study of the AST-Inmarsat adversary proceeding hearings, that AST/Vodafone submitted a confidential response to the EU and are actively pursuing this spectrum.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:32:53

    Kook cites figures suggesting that with MIMO (multiple satellites hitting the same coverage area simultaneously), AST/Vodafone's filings claim they might achieve 6 bits per hertz of spectral efficiency, versus Kook's own more conservative modeling sensitivities (he recalls using roughly 2.5 as a base case and 3-4 as an upside case, though he's uncertain of the exact figures he used). He frames higher bits-per-hertz as directly translating to more data and better economics given the ~10 GHz processing/power-constrained limit on next-generation satellites.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:32:53

    Kook says AST's overall strategy is to become a vehicle for 'global spectrum aggregation,' quoting CEO Abel Avellan describing the resulting portfolio as 'worth more than anyone can pay.'

India Regulatory Environment and ISRO Partnership

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:32:53

    Kook notes Starlink was rejected for its constellation application in India because India has not yet completed its D2C-frequency regulations, and that analyst 'Rocket Tank 123' believes the same regulatory gap could apply to AST until pathways are finalized.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook argues AST is likely to fare better than Starlink in India because AST has built goodwill by partnering with and elevating ISRO's global reputation as a launch partner, and because Indian Prime Minister Modi has publicly tweeted about the company, whereas Starlink has not invested in local partnerships or content in India.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook speculates that large existing Indian telecom incumbents (e.g., Reliance) may lobby against Starlink because it would disintermediate their existing business, making it harder for Starlink to get regulatory approval, whereas he expects AST to have a smoother experience given its collaborative approach.

Local Community Goodwill and US Regulatory Outlook

6
  • Kook Untagged 00:32:53

    Kook cites the Midland, Texas mayor praising AST SpaceMobile's presence in the community, calling it 'the cowbell of Midland,' and noting the local spaceport is now considered a strategic site for national security and defense.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook says a series of FCC filings show AST's partners (e.g., AT&T lawyers, not CEO-level executives) are actively finalizing documents, which he interprets as a sign that a full US market grant from the FCC could come 'any day' — though he cautions that in FCC timelines, 'any day' could still mean February or March.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:32:53

    Kook notes the Ligado FCC filing (tied to AST's L-band spectrum lease) has been accepted for public notice, calling this an important step for a future source of value for the company.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:32:53

    Kook notes UK regulator Ofcom has officially cleared the regulatory path for direct-to-device satellites, which he frames as another domino falling in AST's favor as more countries follow the FCC's lead.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook credits Jennifer Manor, described as AST's 'queen of spectrum,' for the company's strategic spectrum posturing, arguing AST's satellites are ultimately just the 'mode' for spectrum aggregation — the true scarce asset is the spectrum leases themselves, analogizing to Dish/Charlie Ergen's spectrum being valuable mainly because Starlink, not Dish (Charlie), could monetize it.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:32:53

    Kook describes a new AST FCC filing seeking a 5 MHz sliver of 2 GHz spectrum in the US, positioned between EchoStar's and SpaceX's spectrum, which could degrade the contiguity of SpaceX's spectrum highway; Kook is unsure why EchoStar itself isn't applying for it, and frames AST's filing as either a genuine acquisition or a bargaining chip to trade for spectrum where SpaceX has an advantage internationally.

Defense Sector Developments: Golden Dome Economics, Blue Origin, and Army Relationships

6
  • Kook Untagged 00:48:55

    Kook references a Space News article, 'Golden Dome is forcing the Pentagon to confront missile defense economics,' noting missile defense is expensive and that sovereign national constellations (e.g., a hypothetical Japan or Europe going it alone) likely don't make economic sense given the natural-monopoly economics of satellite constellations.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    Kook references last week's discussion of the 'MilNet' dedicated government system 'magically' disappearing, tying it to a broader trend of government leveraging shared commercial systems like AST SpaceMobile rather than building fully dedicated ones.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:48:55

    Kook argues AST's vertically integrated production capacity — putting out roughly 6 satellites per month, and potentially up to 12 per month according to Scott (Wisniewski) — will be strategically important to the government, since it drives down costs for large-scale power generation and RF signal generation in orbit.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:55

    Kook notes AST is sponsoring a black-tie dinner for senior US Army leadership, including Golden Dome program director Mike Gutling, as a sign AST is well-positioned relationally with defense decision-makers.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:55

    Kook notes AT&T announced it was awarded a contract under the Missile Defense Agency SHIELD program (with AT&T business-development lead Kyle Mullen making the announcement), and says it's unclear how the prime-versus-subcontractor roles and economics between AT&T and AST will shake out on this program.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:55

    Kook notes Blue Origin is discontinuing its New Shepard suborbital tourism program to focus resources on scaling up New Glenn, AST's heavy-lift launch partner, calling this a positive development for AST.

TAM Estimates: Deutsche Bank vs. William Blair, and Historical Context

5
  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    Kook cites Deutsche Bank (highlighted via 'SPAC Bobby') estimating a realistic TAM of 1.75 billion users globally for AST SpaceMobile, with Deutsche Bank suggesting it might make sense for AST to pivot away from the primary broadband opportunity or price it higher given very strong demand and limited capacity to serve everything.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    By contrast, Kook notes William Blair's report forecasts only $685 million of AST revenue in 2030, calling it a lowball estimate with 'room to upgrade' relative to Deutsche Bank's more bullish TAM view.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    Kook recounts that rehashed news about Starlink and Apple (via a tweet from Mario Nawfal) plus unusual Friday trading action (stock ripping in the first 30 minutes, 'bid without offer') made it feel like something material was about to be announced, but the move faded and the stock gave back gains later that day.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    Kook closes with a reference to an article on the NRO's declassified Jumpseat spy satellite program, noting these Cold War-era programs (referenced in the book 'Keyhole') are historically underappreciated but were directly important to ending the Cold War, drawing a parallel to today's rapidly evolving electronic-warfare and space-based national security landscape in which he believes AST is well positioned to compete against the largest US defense primes.

  • Kook Untagged 00:48:55

    Kook closes by emphasizing the importance of investors having their own game plan, noting his own approach has simply been to buy as much stock as possible and hold through volatility (implied volatility on the stock is around 100), and encouraging listeners newer to the stock to brace for continued volatility.

Watch Items5

  • FCC full US market grant for AST's SCS/direct-to-cell constellation license modification

    Kook expects it could come 'any day,' but cautions that could still mean February or March 2026 given typical FCC timelines Kook 00:32:53
  • EU decision on 2 GHz MSS spectrum allocation (AST/Vodafone's SatCo submitted a confidential response)

    Not specified; ongoing EU regulatory process Kook 00:32:53
  • India's completion of D2C spectrum regulations, which will determine whether AST (like Starlink) faces rejection for its constellation application

    Not specified; regulatory pathway still pending in India Kook 00:32:53
  • Ligado FCC filing progressing through public notice toward final approval, unlocking long-term L-band spectrum access

    Not specified; filing recently accepted for public notice Kook 00:32:53
  • Resolution of prime/subcontractor roles and economics between AT&T and AST on the Missile Defense Agency SHIELD program

    Kook expects this to play out 'over the next year' Kook 00:48:55

Open Questions6

  • Which of the three Golden Dome value-chain layers (tracking, transport, custody) will AST ultimately occupy, and will it capture more than one?

    Kook 00:00:25
  • What do the six redacted 'ghost filings' found in an AST-related FCC docket actually contain?

    Kook 00:00:25
  • Why is EchoStar not itself applying for the 5 MHz sliver of 2 GHz US spectrum that AST is now pursuing?

    Kook 00:32:53
  • Will Japan build its own sovereign LEO constellation, or adopt a joint structure similar to Europe's SatCo?

    Kook 00:20:51
  • How will the prime-contractor versus subcontractor roles and economics between AT&T and AST shake out on the Missile Defense Agency SHIELD program?

    Kook 00:48:55
  • Will AST face the same India regulatory delays that caused Starlink's constellation application to be rejected, or will its ISRO partnership and local goodwill lead to smoother approval?

    Kook 00:32:53
2026-01-31 56:52

Anpanman - The Million Satellite Race: SpaceX, AI, and the Orbital Data Center Revolution

Anpanman

In this solo episode, Anpanman reacts to SpaceX's FCC filing for a constellation of up to 1 million satellites for AI data center applications. He argues Musk's entry validates a previously speculative 'space data centers' thesis, much like his 2022 direct-to-cell announcement validated AST SpaceMobile's business model years earlier.

He argues space solves terrestrial data centers' land, freshwater-cooling, and grid-power constraints. He also argues that AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 BlueBird satellites — already generating 100-120 kilowatts of power with built-in thermal dissipation and AI-driven beamforming chips — are effectively an existing blueprint for an orbital data center.

In his view, that positions AST as the most logical non-SpaceX partner for Google, Amazon, Microsoft, or OpenAI.

He closes bullish on 2026, expecting the SpaceX IPO to re-rate the entire space sector and drive institutional attention toward names like AST SpaceMobile. He also points to solar plays (T1 Energy, PowerBank, ASTI) that he sees benefiting from surging AI power demand both on Earth and in orbit.

Key Takeaways

  • SpaceX filed with the FCC for a potential constellation of up to 1 million satellites dedicated to AI data center applications, which Anpanman calls a watershed, formal validation of the 'data centers in space' market.
  • Anpanman draws a direct parallel to 2022, when Musk's Starlink direct-to-cell announcement (on the eve of AST SpaceMobile's BlueWalker 3 launch) validated AST's direct-to-device concept even though Starlink's initial product was, in his view, an imperfect minimally-viable solution.
  • Anpanman argues space-based data centers solve three terrestrial constraints simultaneously: limited land, competition for freshwater used in cooling, and unstable/insufficient power grids, using space's 'infinite cooling sink' and unlimited solar power generation.
  • AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 BlueBird satellites already generate 100-120 kilowatts of power per satellite with built-in thermal dissipation and modular 'Micron' solar/antenna/processor building blocks, which Anpanman says makes them an existing blueprint for an orbital AI data center with only incremental engineering changes (swapping ASICs/FPGAs for TPUs or GPUs).
  • Anpanman believes AST SpaceMobile is the most logical non-SpaceX partner for large tech companies (Google, Amazon, Microsoft, OpenAI) that want space-based AI compute capacity without being fully dependent on SpaceX's vertically integrated stack.
  • SpaceX's FCC filing reportedly proposes decommissioning end-of-life satellites by propelling them toward the sun to burn up, rather than deorbiting them into Earth's atmosphere, which Anpanman worries could otherwise release large amounts of metal debris as tens of thousands of Starlink-class satellites reach end of life.
  • Anpanman estimates the addressable market for AI data centers in space could reach roughly $26-40 billion by 2035 (a ChatGPT-sourced estimate he flags as uncertain), smaller than existing satellite communications (~$108B in 2024) or GPS/PNT (~$260B in 2023) markets but still a meaningful new vertical for the space sector.
  • Anpanman is watching solar-energy names — T1 Energy, PowerBank (ticker SUN), and microcap ASTI — as beneficiaries of surging AI power demand both on Earth and in orbit, noting PowerBank recently supplied solar/thermal/power management hardware for a small test satellite (with an Nvidia processor) run by a company called Orbital AI.
  • Anpanman expects the anticipated 2026 SpaceX IPO, potentially valuing the company around $1.5 trillion (or $2-3 trillion if merged with xAI/Tesla), to be a major educational event that draws institutional investors into the broader space sector, including AST SpaceMobile.
  • Anpanman's own historical pattern-matching is that when SpaceX/Musk states an ambitious timeline, actual delivery tends to take roughly twice as long — so if SpaceX says space AI data centers arrive in 3 years, he'd estimate 5-6 years in practice.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

SpaceX's 1-Million-Satellite FCC Filing for AI Data Centers

4
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    SpaceX filed with the FCC 'yesterday' (relative to the recording) for a potential constellation of up to 1 million satellites to perform AI data center applications; Anpanman notes companies often request more than they expect to need from regulators, but calls 1 million 'a very big number.'

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    China has separately disclosed plans for a constellation in the range of 'several hundred thousand' satellites intended to compete with Starlink and AST SpaceMobile, which Anpanman suggests may have spurred Musk to file for an even larger number.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    After the filing, someone tweeted a 'Dr. Evil' joke about the 1-million figure ('why not 1 billion'), and Musk replied that he actually meant 1 billion, which Anpanman treats as a joke rather than a real revised figure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman frames the filing as a watershed moment because the most visible and successful space company has now formally, not just rhetorically, entered the AI-data-centers-in-space market, which had previously been championed mainly by early-stage startups like StarCloud.

Why Musk's Entry Validates the Space Data Center Market

10
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman recalls that in 2017 Abel Avellan's vision of connecting unmodified 3GPP phones directly to satellites was widely viewed as a 'pipe dream,' and that AST iterated through BlueWalker 1 and then BlueWalker 3 to prove it out.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    On the eve of the BlueWalker 3 launch, Musk announced Starlink direct-to-cell and effectively claimed SpaceX had already created the technology, when in Anpanman's view it had not; Starlink's initial offering was an imperfect, minimally-viable product but still drew major investor interest into the sector and silenced some naysayers.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    As evidence the direct-to-cell market is not small, Anpanman notes SpaceX spent 'over $20 billion' acquiring EchoStar spectrum for US direct-to-cell use, and separately AST SpaceMobile purchased Ligado spectrum for the same underlying purpose.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    StarCloud's CEO had been publicly championing data centers in space and, in Anpanman's telling, faced skepticism ('folks kind of laughing at him'); Musk's entry now validates that thesis and should make it easier for StarCloud and similar startups to raise capital. Anpanman is separately skeptical of StarCloud's specific satellite/solar-array architecture, calling it 'a big target that would get hit by debris.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman cites SpaceX's broader vertical integration — potential mergers/links with Tesla and xAI spanning launch, communications satellites, data centers, solar production, robotics, and AI applications (X, xAI) — as context for why Musk is pushing into space data centers now.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Tesla announced (the prior Friday) plans to build 100 gigawatts of production capacity for solar panels, modules and cells; some solar stocks sold off on fears Tesla would sell that capacity externally, but Anpanman says the earnings transcript indicates Tesla/Musk's businesses plan to consume all of that capacity internally for their own data centers and applications.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman argues grid infrastructure cannot support new large power sources at a distance, so power generation (solar, natural gas, or nuclear) increasingly has to be built directly next to data centers ('behind the meter') rather than delivered over the existing grid.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Musk's broader track record — reusable rockets (once dismissed as impossible), replicating and improving on OneWeb's LEO fixed-wireless concept into Starlink, and turning Tesla/EVs into a mainstream product after skepticism — is cited as evidence he tends to correctly identify large future markets, even if AST SpaceMobile ultimately built superior direct-to-device technology.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman's own timeline expectation: even if SpaceX says space AI data centers will happen in a given number of years (e.g. 3), he expects it will actually take roughly twice as long (e.g. 5-6 years) based on Musk's historical pattern of missing deadlines while still eventually delivering.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Small companies are already testing pieces of this market: Anpanman mentions PowerBank (ticker SUN) supplying the solar-thermal and power-management system for a test satellite doing distributed compute in space for a company called Orbital AI, which he says launched roughly a few weeks before this episode.

Market Sizing for Space Applications

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Citing figures he pulled from ChatGPT and flagging them as uncertain, Anpanman estimates the Earth-observation market (Planet Labs, BlackSky, SatLogic, etc.) at about $5 billion currently, growing to roughly $8 billion by 2033 — sizable but 'not that big.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    He estimates the satellite communications market (AST SpaceMobile's category) at about $108 billion in 2024, expected to grow significantly, with direct-to-device specifically nascent but forecast at roughly a 100% CAGR over the next 5-10 years.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    He cites GPS/position-navigation-timing as the largest space application market at about $260 billion in 2023, and government space spending (military and other applications) at about $132 billion.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    For the new AI-data-centers-in-space vertical, Anpanman cites differing forecasts of roughly $26 billion to $40 billion in size by 2035 — smaller than communications but still a meaningful new addressable market opening up for space companies.

Technical Case for Moving AI Compute to Space

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman says (with self-flagged uncertainty about the exact figures) that roughly 40% of a terrestrial data center's electricity goes to cooling and about 60% to compute/data transmission; moving the cooling burden to space via radiative heat dissipation would free up much more power for actual compute.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    On Earth, data centers force trade-offs between land use, freshwater for cooling, and other human needs (food/water); Anpanman argues there is a practical cap on how many terrestrial data centers can be built, and that alternatives like cold-climate or underwater data centers risk melting polar regions or, at the extreme, 'boiling the oceans.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman argues that putting compute on the moon or in sun-synchronous/solar orbit avoids these Earth-bound resource trade-offs entirely.

Satellite End-of-Life and Orbital Debris Concerns in SpaceX's Filing

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    Anpanman says the SpaceX FCC filing (as he reads it, with some uncertainty) proposes decommissioning satellites by giving them propulsion to push themselves out of orbit and toward the sun to burn up, rather than deorbiting them into Earth's atmosphere.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    He views this as a better solution than atmospheric deorbiting, since burning up large numbers of satellites' metals and materials in Earth's atmosphere is not good for humans, and he worries the industry will soon see 'hundreds and thousands' of satellites deorbiting given Starlink's plans for tens of thousands of satellites with roughly 2-3 year useful lives in very low Earth orbit.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman states his own preference is for a smaller number (a few hundred) of satellites in higher orbit with longer useful lives of roughly 7-10, potentially up to 12, years, which he views as a better environmental and performance approach — an implicit reference to AST SpaceMobile's constellation design versus Starlink's.

AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 Satellites as a Space Data Center Blueprint

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:18:04

    Anpanman recounts a conversation with a portfolio manager at Hennessy, described as one of the few longtime institutional holders of AST SpaceMobile, about the company's future optionality beyond its core direct-to-device business, including military applications.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman expects AST SpaceMobile could generate 'probably a few hundred million dollars' of revenue in the coming year (2026) from military applications alone, once the constellation is deployed.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:04

    Block 2 BlueBird satellites generate 100 to 120 kilowatts of power via modular 'Micron' building blocks that have solar panels on one side, phased-array antennas on the other, and processors (currently FPGAs, transitioning to AST's proprietary ASIC) sandwiched between, with built-in heat dissipation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    The satellites' ASICs already run an AI algorithm to perform efficient beamforming for communications; Anpanman argues it would not be a large technical leap to swap those chips for TPUs or GPUs to perform AI compute rather than just communications beamforming, though he notes this isn't yet optimized for that purpose.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    Anpanman recalls Elon Musk stating, roughly a month before this episode, that a space data center needs about 100 kilowatts of power to work — a threshold Anpanman says AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 satellites already meet and have already demonstrated in orbit, in a form factor that fits inside a standard rocket fairing and unfolds.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    AST SpaceMobile is already partnered with Google on communications, optimizing satellite service for Android devices, which Anpanman cites as an existing relationship that could extend into a data-center partnership.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:04

    AST SpaceMobile currently has a production cadence of 6 satellites per month and has made plans to expand that to 12 satellites per month.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman cites AST SpaceMobile's roughly 3,800 patents and patent-pending claims, existing tooling, know-how, and supply chain as reasons the company could logically pivot excess production capacity toward building space data centers once the core communications constellation is built out.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman says he has personally told AST SpaceMobile that it should form a dedicated 'skunkworks' group focused on AI data centers if it hasn't already, and that based on conversations he had with the company roughly two years ago, AST was already working 4-5 satellite generations ahead of what's publicly discussed (Block 2/Block 3), suggesting the company may already be pursuing this internally.

Potential Partners and Competitive Landscape for Space Data Centers

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman argues Google, Amazon, Microsoft, OpenAI, and Meta will all need space-industry partners to compete in AI data centers, since none of them currently operate meaningfully in space themselves aside from prior failed efforts like Google/Meta's high-altitude balloon internet projects.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    He argues this will not be a winner-take-all market dominated solely by SpaceX, since other large tech players may not fully trust or want to depend on a vertically integrated Musk-controlled stack, creating an opening for AST SpaceMobile as a partner building 5-6 ton satellites with large deployable solar arrays.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    He names K2 Space as another company building large satellites for big applications, but notes he doesn't believe they have put a satellite in orbit yet; he also suggests Rocket Lab could plausibly move into the space-data-center market.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:04

    Planet Labs is running a pilot with Google to send an Nvidia processor to space in CubeSat form, targeted around the end of this year or early next year, as one smaller-scale approach to space compute.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman argues large legacy prime contractors are too slow-moving, bureaucratic, and cost-plus to build this kind of hardware quickly, citing an unnamed prime's satellite program (built for Viasat, per his recollection) that was delivered years late and over budget, as reasons this opportunity favors newer, faster-iterating companies like AST SpaceMobile.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Beyond big tech, Anpanman expects telecom carriers (AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone) that already run terrestrial data center/interconnectivity/hosting businesses to seek space partnerships as well, potentially through existing relationships like AST SpaceMobile.

Solar Energy as the Enabling Resource

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    AST SpaceMobile uses commercial-grade (not specialized/exotic) solar panels that are then hardened for space radiation and temperature extremes, rather than exotic space-specific solar technology.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:04

    T1 Energy makes silicon TOPCon solar modules and cells and is positioned to benefit from surging solar demand; it currently runs a solar module plant at 5 gigawatts of annual capacity and is standing up a solar cell fab targeting an additional 5 gigawatts of capacity, expected online around the end of this year, benefiting from US domestic-content tax incentives.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman draws an analogy to Micron shifting DRAM/NAND production away from consumer PCs toward data centers as demand outstripped commodity supply, predicting the same dynamic in solar: AI data center demand (terrestrial and orbital) will absorb the bulk of solar production, raising prices and potentially reducing solar panel availability for residential use.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman holds a small speculative position in ASTI, a microcap making flexible thin-film solar modules for space applications; the company has spent heavily on R&D without yet commercializing the technology, though it recently raised capital and cited interested customers.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:18:04

    PowerBank (ticker SUN), which recently rebranded from a residential/small-business solar-farm developer, is pivoting toward 'behind-the-meter' solar-plus-battery power for data centers under CEO Dr. Richard Lu, targeting small-and-medium enterprise data center customers rather than hyperscalers like Google, Amazon, or Microsoft.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    PowerBank supplied the solar panel technology, electrical management, and thermal management for a test satellite (reportedly carrying an Nvidia processor as proof of concept) for a company called Orbital AI, which is primarily focused on blockchain processing/validation in space.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman estimates PowerBank's market cap at roughly $45 million per Bloomberg, though he believes the true figure is closer to $70-80 million once dilutive securities are accounted for; the company has June fiscal year-end financials of $41 million revenue and about 25% gross margin in FY2025, roughly breakeven EBITDA, with Street estimates of $63 million revenue in FY2026 and $87 million in FY2027, gross margins reaching the mid-50s by FY2028, and EBITDA profitability by around June 2027.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:18:04

    Per his conversation with PowerBank's CEO, the company spends roughly $8-10 million annually to remain Nasdaq-listed, is not currently raising capital despite inbound interest, and the CEO's ambition is to return the stock to the $5-6 level it hit around its Nasdaq listing.

SpaceX IPO and 2026 Outlook for the Space Sector

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    Recent SpaceX financial disclosures reportedly show roughly $15-16 billion in revenue and about $8 billion in EBITDA, with Starlink contributing 60-70% (and likely more on a cash-flow basis) of that financial performance.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    Anpanman argues a core driver behind SpaceX's push into space data centers is the need to generate enough cargo/payload demand to justify Starship's capacity, similar to how a lack of sufficient launch customers in the early 2010s pushed Musk toward building Starlink as a demand source for Falcon 9.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    Anpanman expects the SpaceX IPO in 2026 to be a major educational event for institutional investors, potentially valuing SpaceX around $1.5 trillion standalone, or in the $2-3 trillion range if merged with xAI and/or Tesla, and predicts this will re-rate valuations across the space sector, including AST SpaceMobile and Rocket Lab.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    He references Stanford's Professor Kevin Mack, who has discussed the possibility of AST SpaceMobile reaching 'S-rank cult status' among investors, which Anpanman says he thinks is possible as growth narratives that consensus doesn't yet see get priced in.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    Anpanman closes bullish on the broader 2026 outlook for the space sector, citing Trump-administration emphasis on American space superiority, the SpaceX IPO, and growing institutional awareness of both direct-to-device and now AI-data-center applications as tailwinds, and says he remains especially optimistic on 'space and solar' as investment themes.

Watch Items6

  • SpaceX IPO

    2026 (as anticipated by Anpanman) Anpanman 00:55:38
  • AST SpaceMobile military/defense revenue ramp once constellation is deployed

    this coming year (2026) Anpanman 00:18:04
  • AST SpaceMobile satellite production cadence increase from 6/month to a planned 12/month

    no specific date given Anpanman 00:18:04
  • PowerBank (SUN) EBITDA profitability

    around June 2027, per Street estimates Anpanman 00:18:04
  • T1 Energy new solar cell fab (additional 5 GW capacity) coming online

    end of this year (2026) Anpanman 00:18:04
  • Planet Labs/Google pilot sending an Nvidia processor to space in CubeSat form

    end of this year or early next year Anpanman 00:18:04

Open Questions4

  • Will AI data centers in space actually launch on SpaceX's stated timeline, or take roughly twice as long (5-6 years) as Anpanman speculates based on Musk's historical pattern of delayed-but-eventual delivery?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Which large tech companies (Google, Amazon, Microsoft, OpenAI, Meta) will end up partnering with AST SpaceMobile versus SpaceX, or attempting to build their own space capabilities, for AI compute in orbit?

    Anpanman 00:18:04
  • Can the technical challenges of scaling AI compute payloads in space — processing density beyond current beamforming ASICs, and thermal management at larger scale — actually be solved economically, and on what timeline?

    Anpanman 00:18:04
  • How will satellite operators handle end-of-life decommissioning at the scale SpaceX is now proposing (tens of thousands to potentially a million satellites) without significant atmospheric or orbital debris consequences?

    Anpanman 00:18:04
2026-01-29 1:13:36

Anpanman - Breaking $124: The AST SpaceMobile Supercycle

Anpanman · Unidentified guest

In this solo X Spaces recap (recorded ~Jan 28, republished Jan 29, 2026), Anpanman marks AST SpaceMobile's new all-time high of $124.32 intraday ($121.23 close) as a sign the stock is transitioning from speculative trading vehicle to mature, institutionally-owned market leader.

He walks through the January 23 joint FCC meeting between AST, AT&T, Verizon, and FirstNet as evidence US regulatory approval for commercial service is in its final stages. He previews near-term catalysts: Bluebird 6 unfolding, the Bluebird 7 New Glenn launch, and the SpaceX IPO.

He argues the company is approaching 'S-rank' cult-stock status akin to Tesla or Palantir, as investors start pricing in AI-data-center hosting and Golden Dome defense applications beyond the core connectivity business.

His headline conclusion: pullbacks are likely but the stock isn't going back to $50, and 2026 catalysts should drive a broader institutional re-rating.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile stock hit a new intraday all-time high of $124.32 and closed at $121.23, which Anpanman frames as the start of a sustained institutional re-rating rather than a short-lived spike, unlike prior false-dawn rallies in 2022-2024.
  • AST SpaceMobile, AT&T, Verizon, FirstNet, and consultants Dave Marshak Group and RKF held a joint meeting with the FCC on January 23, 2026 — a rare unified show of support Anpanman reads as a strong signal that FCC approval of AST's US market/SCS application is close, likely landing between late January and mid-February 2026.
  • The fact that attorneys and representatives (not C-suite executives like Abel Avellan or the carriers' CEOs) attended the January 23 FCC meeting is, per Anpanman, a positive sign — senior-executive attendance late in a regulatory process would typically indicate problems.
  • Bluebird 7 is expected to launch no earlier than the end of February 2026, likely slipping into early March, on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 — notable as the first reuse of a New Glenn booster.
  • Anpanman relays hedge-fund commentator Kevin Mack's thesis that AST SpaceMobile could reach 'S-rank' cult-stock status comparable to Tesla or Palantir, where the market prices in optionality beyond core connectivity — including hosting AI data-center payloads (each satellite generating ~120 kilowatts of power, with FPGAs/ASICs onboard and potential future Nvidia GPU-class payloads) and Golden Dome-related defense/government use cases.
  • AST's market capitalization stood at roughly $45 billion at the time of the episode; Anpanman cites a Scotiabank analyst projection of roughly $11 billion in free cash flow by around 2030-2031 as an illustration of how far bulls see the stock potentially re-rating.
  • Anpanman describes short sellers and vocal bears (citing Kerrisdale/a similarly-named short-report author, a SpaceX-employed critic named Philip Lyle, and a Twitter account called 'Tuck Capital') as having lost money or capitulated to long positions, arguing that smart money avoids shorting into a stock with this many upcoming catalysts and instead goes long ahead of the anticipated SpaceX IPO.
  • Anpanman frames 2026 as an inflection year for institutional ownership, pointing to Fidelity's ability to buy up to roughly 15% of a company's shares as an example of the scale of buying that could occur once FCC approval and further constellation/commercial-service milestones are achieved.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

Stock hits new all-time high of $124.32

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Anpanman recounts tweeting around 6:10-6:15am that he had dreamed the stock would break $124 that day, after waking from broken sleep; the stock later hit an intraday high of $124.32 and closed at $121.23, both all-time highs.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman notes that the day's move represented roughly '6 market caps worth of AST back in 2024,' illustrating how much larger and less volatile (in percentage terms) the company has become.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman and Kook discussed after the close that a lot of company-specific risk has now been de-risked — e.g., losing one or two satellites today would not be a company-ending event, whereas losing BlueWalker 3 during the 2022-2023 period of financial-market uncertainty could have forced the company to raise capital at very bad terms.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman contrasts this rally with the 2022-2024 pattern where the stock would spike on a catalyst (e.g., BlueWalker 3 reaching orbit) and then give back the gains because the company was still too early-stage; he argues the stock is now behaving like a maturing company where positive catalysts sustain and 'step function' higher instead of round-tripping.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:34:48

    Since Trump signed an executive order on space superiority around the 2nd or 3rd week of December 2025 (AST was at $65 at the time), Anpanman says the stock's technical pattern shifted from three separate impulse moves to one continuous higher-highs/higher-lows channel.

FCC meeting and US market access approval outlook

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:20:02

    On January 23, 2026, AST SpaceMobile, AT&T, Verizon, FirstNet, and consultants Dave Marshak Group and RKF jointly met with the FCC — a rare instance of AT&T and Verizon (competitors) presenting a unified front alongside AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:02

    The public comment period on AST's US market/SCS application closed around October 6, 2025, with a short reply period running to roughly the second week of October; Anpanman notes a typical post-comment-period decision window is 2-3 months, putting expected FCC action around late January or the first half of February 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:46

    Anpanman highlights that attorneys/representatives, not principals like AT&T's John Stankey or Verizon's CEO, attended the January 23 meeting — in his view a positive sign, since senior-executive attendance late in a regulatory process usually signals something is going wrong.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:30:46

    The same day as the recording, AST sent a follow-up letter to the FCC responding to requests about interference limits, which Anpanman characterizes as the company 'tightening things up' ahead of a decision that could come within days to a couple of weeks.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman notes FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has publicly praised both Starlink and AST SpaceMobile and pushed for faster approvals and more freed-up spectrum for direct-to-device, which he reads as further evidence approval is coming soon; he also notes Starlink's own direct-to-device constellation was approved roughly a week or two before this recording.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    If granted, full FCC approval would let AST operate its full 248-satellite constellation without relying on Special Temporary Authority waivers, and would allow the company to turn on commercial service (subject to not causing interference) rather than just launch satellites.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman argues US approval will act as a global catalyst: regulators in Europe, Asia, and Africa look to the US framework as a template, so US approval should open the door to faster approvals internationally.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman says he can't predict the stock's immediate reaction to FCC approval — it could be up 20-30%, flat, or even sell off short-term — but views it as a huge positive over the medium-to-long term because it validates the company for institutions still waiting on the sidelines.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman notes Fidelity already holds a small position and cites the fact that funds like Fidelity can build positions up to roughly 15% of a company's outstanding shares as an example of the scale of buying that could follow FCC approval, similar to the sustained buying seen after the 2024 Verizon deal.

Upcoming satellite catalysts: Bluebird 6, Bluebird 7, and Batch 1/2

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    SpaceMob due-diligence trackers (citing 'Katzi,' who did similar tracking during BlueWalker 3) monitor satellite drag and orbit data to determine when a satellite has successfully unfolded/detumbled; for Block 2, the design uses a single large arm that unfolds in one direction (versus the two-arm, multi-direction unfold used on Block 1), which Anpanman says should be simpler and lower-risk.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Bluebird 6 (BB6)'s antenna unfolding is expected 'any moment'; there is speculation within SpaceMob that BB6 also has a tail-mounted solar array for extra power that may have already deployed, though the company has not confirmed this and Anpanman expects limited photo/video release given the proprietary unfolding mechanism.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:34:48

    Bluebird 7 is expected to launch no earlier than the end of February 2026, which in practice likely means early March (e.g., March 1-3) once weather and other factors are accounted for; it will launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3, notable as Blue Origin's first attempt to reuse a New Glenn booster.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Two additional batches of three Bluebirds each ('Batch 1' and 'Batch 2') are expected to ship to Florida for Falcon 9 launches; Anpanman attributes the shipment taking longer than expected to a backlog at Cape Canaveral, including a crewed Falcon 9 mission to the ISS and Starship launch preparations competing for payload-processing facilities.

Golden Dome, political trading, and the broader space economy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman jokes about the likelihood of politicians such as Nancy Pelosi and Tommy Tuberville buying AST or other space names given momentum around Golden Dome and NDAA-related legislation, noting that politician trades are disclosed only on a delayed basis (in one case, disclosure came 100 days late with only a small fine).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:34:48

    Anpanman cites a McKinsey/Goldman Sachs study (shared by a SpaceMob member who works at a hedge fund) projecting the global space economy will grow to $1.8 trillion by 2035, up from $630 billion in 2023.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman observes that AST and Rocket Lab tend to trade in correlation as the two main 'newer space' proxies — Rocket Lab has moved from the 50s to around 89 (having touched 100) since the December executive order on space superiority.

Short sellers and market positioning ahead of the SpaceX IPO

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman describes a Twitter hedge-fund account (referenced as something like 'Century Old Ag Credit') that floated shorting AST, then reversed and said he would go long into the SpaceX IPO despite not believing in the company's fundamentals, which Anpanman cites as a sign smart money doesn't want to fight the sector's tailwinds.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman recalls historical short sellers (a Kerrisdale/'Terrastale'-type report, and individuals he names as Philip Lyle, a SpaceX employee, and a critic he refers to as 'Tim Ferriss') as having largely lost or made only modest money shorting AST, with one firm's assets under management having dwindled.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman notes a Twitter account ('Tuck Capital') that appears to have shorted AST around $50 and again around $70 and is now down significantly, reinforcing his view that it's dangerous to short a name benefiting from powerful secular/sector tailwinds heading into the SpaceX IPO.

S-rank thesis: AI data centers and defense applications beyond connectivity

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman relays hedge-fund commentator Kevin Mack's framing that AST could reach 'S-rank' cult-stock status (an anime power-ranking analogy: D through A rank, with only a handful of S-rank), comparable to Tesla or Palantir, where valuation reflects long-term platform potential rather than near-term financials alone.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman compares AST to Nvidia (originally a niche gaming-GPU company that became central to the AI revolution) and to Tesla (more than an EV maker — robotaxis, and Musk's stated plan to halt Model S/X production by year-end to reallocate that line to building robots), arguing AST is similarly underappreciated beyond its 'connect a phone to satellite' use case.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman describes each BlueBird satellite as capable of generating about 120 kilowatts of power, with phased arrays/microns on the earth-facing side and solar panels on the outer side, built-in heat dissipation (a major constraint for AI data centers), and FPGAs currently onboard with ASICs being integrated starting in Q1, positioning the constellation as a potential host for future Nvidia GPUs or other AI/TPU-style chips.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman argues that once AST's constellation build-out is complete, its manufacturing capacity, trained workforce, automation, and patents for building 5-6 ton satellites could be repurposed for third-party satellite manufacturing deals (e.g., for Google, which currently partners on small CubeSats via Planet but would need a larger dedicated satellite builder), though he says it's unclear whether such deals would be a one-time build or generate ongoing operator/service revenue.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:51:41

    Anpanman notes the company is at roughly 500,000 square feet of manufacturing floor space (with more being added) and is already producing at a cadence of about 6 satellites per month per recent FCC filings (not yet publicly acknowledged by the company), with Scott Wisniewski having talked about ramping to 10-12 satellites per month, driven partly by pulling forward the mid-band constellation and partly by a separate 'government shell' of satellites.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman pushes back on bears who value AST off last quarter's reported $14 million of revenue, arguing serious investors price growth/platform companies (comparing AST to biotech, SMRs, or quantum computing names) off future TAM and cash flow potential rather than trailing results, citing a Scotiabank analyst projection of roughly $11 billion in free cash flow by around 2030-2031 — a figure someone noted would put AST in the top 10 of all public companies by free cash flow.

SpaceX IPO and institutional positioning

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman says Elon Musk reportedly wants to pull the SpaceX IPO forward to around June 2026 (to align with his birthday and unspecified planetary timing), which would require a fast SEC review of the S-1 given Musk's closeness to the administration; if not June, Anpanman expects July, and says the company could still pull off a successful IPO in August, though August/September offerings are typically avoided due to lower investor availability.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman argues TMT/growth investors who want SpaceX/Starlink exposure but can't get it will increasingly view AST — now at roughly $45 billion market cap — as the pure-play way to gain exposure to the space theme, creating 'schmuck insurance'-style buying pressure (funds not wanting to be seen missing the name), similar to quarter-end momentum buying/selling in other big winners and losers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman cites an unnamed institutional investor on Twitter who bought AST via VWAP around $104-105 (an all-time high at the time) and explained the purchase as 'it's interesting now, I've got to own it' — illustrating the shift toward institutional must-own buying he expects to continue.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:51:41

    Anpanman references Viasat receiving a $188 million Ex-Im loan from the US government to build one satellite (announced the day before this recording) as context for AST's own pending application for a $500 million facility, though he is unsure whether AST's application is for satellites or manufacturing; he expects a response to be 'somewhat ripe.'

Personal portfolio management and politics disclaimer

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:20:02

    Anpanman states AST SpaceMobile makes up roughly 85% or more of his public-securities portfolio, and explains he maintains a concentrated portfolio of only 5-7 sized positions plus occasional trades in other names (e.g., T1 Energy, Bridger) partly to avoid the psychological trap of over-fixating on every daily tick in a single stock.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:20:02

    Anpanman explains he deliberately avoids sharing political opinions on Twitter/X, framing his account as focused on investing, and says SpaceMob community spaces (including private chats/Discord) generally avoid political discussion except where policy/legislation directly affects the investment thesis.

Watch Items6

  • FCC decision on AST's US market access / SCS constellation application

    Expected around late January to first half of February 2026, based on a typical 2-3 month post-comment-period window; Anpanman says it could come within days to a couple of weeks of the recording Anpanman 00:20:02
  • Bluebird 6 antenna array unfolding

    Expected 'any moment' / imminently Anpanman 00:34:48
  • Bluebird 7 launch on Blue Origin New Glenn 3

    No earlier than end of February 2026, likely slipping to early March Anpanman 00:34:48
  • Shipment of Batch 1 and Batch 2 (two sets of three Bluebirds) to Cape Canaveral for Falcon 9 launches

    Expected soon, delayed by Cape Canaveral payload-processing backlog Anpanman 00:34:48
  • SpaceX IPO

    Possibly June 2026 (Musk's preferred timing), otherwise July or August 2026 Anpanman 00:51:41
  • AST's pending ~$500 million Ex-Im loan application

    No specific date given; described as 'somewhat ripe,' expects to hear back Anpanman 00:51:41

Open Questions5

  • How will the stock react in the immediate term once FCC approval of the US market/SCS application is granted — up sharply, flat, or a sell-the-news dip?

    Anpanman 00:34:48
  • Will Bluebird 7 launch by the end of February as targeted, or slip into early March given weather sensitivity and Cape Canaveral manifest congestion?

    Anpanman 00:34:48
  • What business model would AST use if it built satellites for third parties like Google for AI-data-center applications — a one-time build-and-hand-over, or an ongoing operator/service-revenue relationship?

    Anpanman 00:51:41
  • Whether AST's pending ~$500 million Ex-Im loan application is intended for satellite production or manufacturing infrastructure.

    Anpanman 00:51:41
  • Exact timing of the SpaceX IPO (June, July, or August 2026) and how it will affect capital flows into AST as a proxy investment.

    Anpanman 00:51:41
2026-01-26 51:07

Kook's Weekly, January 25 - Terawave Theories, FCC Green Lights, and The Flaw in the Bear Case

Kook

In this Kook's Weekly solo episode (Jan 25), Kook argues that 'knowing what you own' is the best defense against macro-driven price whipsaws.

He then walks through the upcoming FM2 SDA satellite launch on New Glenn, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's enthusiasm for direct-to-device and imminent SCS approval, and why Blue Origin's new TerraWave orbital data-transport constellation is complementary to (not competitive with) ASTS rather than a threat.

Kook rebuts telecom exec Peter Adderton's bear thesis that ASTS's white-label/MNO-partnership model is inferior to Starlink's consumer brand, arguing the MNO distribution model is actually a monopoly advantage akin to owning the App Store.

The episode closes with analyst commentary (Scotiabank persistently bearish vs. Deutsche Bank's upgrade to $137 and ClearStreet's matching target), news of Starlink DTC executive departures and continued Starship test failures, and reflections on the 'Space Mob' community via a Crossroads Capital report.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook (solo host of Kook's Weekly) argues that short-term ASTS price whipsaws are usually driven by macro noise (tariffs, geopolitics, government shutdown fears) rather than company fundamentals, and that investors who deeply understand what they own are less likely to panic-sell or get shaken out by stop losses.
  • AST SpaceMobile's second SDA/HALO test satellite, FM2, is set to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket (New Glenn is 2-for-2 so far but still working toward full certification); Kook says a launch anomaly would now only be a 'minor nuisance' rather than catastrophic, unlike earlier in the company's history when a failed BlueWalker 3 or Block 1 launch could have been existential.
  • FCC Chairman Brendan Carr said he is 'geeking out' over direct-to-device (D2D/D2C) technology and wants it to 'flourish in America first'; Kook says the FCC is quickly turning comments on ASTS's license-modification application, signaling imminent approval of the full constellation, which he calls a global 'green light' that other countries' regulators (e.g., Nigeria) tend to follow.
  • Kook rebuts Boost Mobile founder and Mobile X founder Peter Adderton's criticism that ASTS's white-label, MNO-partnership ('B2B') strategy is inferior to Starlink's consumer-brand approach, arguing direct-to-consumer models are crippled by massive customer acquisition costs (he cites Iridium's D2C bankruptcy as a historical precedent) and that ASTS's exclusive MNO partnerships (e.g., with AT&T) function like owning the App Store — an unmatched distribution advantage.
  • Blue Origin announced a new 'TerraWave' orbital data-transport backbone (5,300 LEO satellites plus 128 Middle Earth Orbit satellites) aimed at moving large data volumes between fixed endpoints (data centers, government/enterprise use); Kook argues this is not a competitor to ASTS but likely complementary, noting frequency overlap with ASTS's own links and timing that coincides with the cancellation of the SpaceX-built MilNet government data-transport program.
  • Deutsche Bank raised its ASTS price target from $81 to $137 and models roughly $200 million of government/other revenue in 2027, while Scotiabank has repeatedly published bearish notes; ClearStreet separately issued a matching $137 price target.
  • Starlink's direct-to-cell division is seeing key executive departures — Ben Longmire (CEO of Starlink's DTC business) and Sarah Spangelo (from the Swarm days) have both left — which Kook views as confirmation of execution problems at Starlink's D2D unit, while SpaceX's Starship program suffered another testing failure.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

Market volatility and 'knowing what you own'

2
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:29

    Kook opens by noting positive sentiment on ASTS has been high recently, which is usually when random macro whipsaws (e.g., yen moves, tariff headlines, government shutdown news) hit hardest; he stresses that investors, especially newer ones still doing diligence, need to study the company carefully so they don't mistake unrelated macro/industry-expert news for company-specific bad news.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook warns that stop losses have cost some investors money during these short-term price movements, reiterating that understanding what you own is the best defense against panic selling.

FM2 launch and de-risking of launch anomalies

4
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:29

    FM2 is AST SpaceMobile's second SDA (Space Development Agency) HALO-award test satellite; as an awardee of the Halo Award prototype program, the company committed to send up two test satellites (FM1, already launched, and now FM2) to demonstrate capabilities to the government.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:29

    FM1 launched on an ISRO launcher and FM2 will launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn; New Glenn is 2-for-2 (batting 1,000%) so far but is still in the process of gaining full rocket certification, making it somewhat riskier than a typical Falcon 9 launch.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook believes FM1 and FM2 are primarily testing the satellite 'bus' and carry government payloads rather than being part of the main commercial communication constellation, which instead begins with Batch 1 and shortly after Batch 2.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook argues the risk profile of a launch failure has changed dramatically over the company's history: a failed BlueWalker 3 launch would have been catastrophic (company likely couldn't have raised money and could have gone bankrupt); a failed Block 1 launch would have put the company at extreme risk; but today, any anomaly with a single satellite is just a 'minor nuisance' given the company's financial and operational wherewithal, and he personally would not sell his position over such an event.

FCC regulatory momentum and global 'green light' effect

6
  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:29

    FCC Chairman Brendan Carr said he is 'geeking out' over direct-to-device technology, referenced 'truly high-speed service' (which Kook says specifically refers to AST SpaceMobile), called it part of his tenure's legacy, said the FCC will open up spectrum, and said he wants D2D to 'flourish in America first.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Beyond the chairman's words, the FCC has been quickly turning comments on ASTS's license-modification application this week, which Kook takes as an action-based signal that full constellation market-access approval is coming soon, and that this approval is likely to be timed around the Batch 1 shipment date, which he says 'could be any day now,' though he isn't sure there's a grand plan behind the timing.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook believes the market has already priced in a high probability of FCC approval, so the approval itself may not be major news to him personally, though it remains a big fundamental accomplishment; he contrasts this with Golden Dome, which he sees as not yet reflected in the stock price and as having more potential to be a step-change in revenue expectations, since FCC approval mainly increases certainty of achieving already-expected revenue rather than raising the revenue expectation itself.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook expects other countries, including Nigeria, Australia, the EU, and the UK, to launch their own D2D regulatory consultations/frameworks over the next year, following the FCC's lead, making US FCC approval effectively a global green light for D2D adoption.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:29

    Kook recalls that the company originally planned an equatorial constellation (matching early FCC filings) before subsequently changing course, and that in his early diligence he mistakenly thought other countries' approvals could take precedence over the FCC; the company corrected him, stressing FCC approval is crucial since the US is the largest, deepest telecom market and not operating there would be a significant impairment of value, even though the company would still have a business elsewhere.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:29

    Kook recounts that analyst/critic Tim Farrar was previously adamant ASTS would never get FCC approval and that a European framework would take a decade — claims Kook says have been proven completely wrong — and frames the stock's move from below $10 to the $100+ range as reflecting the de-risking of regulatory, financial, operating-execution, and technology risk factors.

Evolution of the bear case and market sentiment

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook argues that as the 'it will never get approved' bear thesis has been discredited, short sellers have shifted their argument to 'it will work and get approved, but the market isn't big,' which he says was the expected next phase of bear dialogue; he notes that historically, hedge fund short sellers who lose conviction often flip to going long rather than merely covering, though he acknowledges he personally has never done so himself.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:29

    Kook describes a Friday dip that made him briefly anxious before reminding himself the stock was at $115, referencing ongoing debate in the community about whether the 'Kook bottom' (a sentiment indicator tied to his own emotional reactions to drawdowns) is still valid.

Rebutting Peter Adderton's white-label bear thesis

7
  • Kook Speculation 00:15:27

    Peter Adderton, founder of Boost Mobile and founder of Mobile X, has been publicly critical of the 'space mob,' arguing ASTS's white-label B2B strategy is fundamentally flawed compared to Starlink's consumer-brand approach; when asked by 'King Tut' why he spends time trolling retail investors, Adderton reportedly said he has a great team so has plenty of spare time.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:30

    Kook argues Adderton's comparison misses that Starlink built its consumer brand with fixed broadband, not with direct-to-cell (DTC); standard direct-to-consumer (D2C) companies are often crippled by customer acquisition costs, which Kook estimates can eat 60-70% of gross margin, whereas Starlink largely avoided this because Elon Musk functioned as a uniquely effective one-man marketing engine requiring minimal paid advertising.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:30

    Kook argues true D2C for satellite-to-phone service isn't practically possible because a phone must be tied to one core network, so an operator would have to replace the MNO entirely — commercially and technically impractical given the enormous capital intensity and customer acquisition costs required (citing the MNOs' heavy advertising and phone-subsidy spending as evidence of how expensive customer acquisition is).

  • Kook Confirmed 00:15:30

    Kook cites the Iridium IPO/business as a historical precedent for an integrated, direct-to-consumer satellite phone strategy — Iridium went bankrupt due to how expensive it was to acquire customers directly.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:15:30

    Kook notes that Starlink itself does not go direct-to-consumer for its own D2D product — it partners with T-Mobile — which he says undercuts Adderton's argument.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:30

    Kook likens ASTS's exclusive MNO partnerships (e.g., AT&T) to owning the App Store: to an AT&T subscriber, ASTS will be the only option for this type of satellite service, giving ASTS an effective distribution monopoly across the largest MNOs globally, which he calls the actual advantage that generates the money, superior to Adderton's brand argument.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:30

    Kook says he personally hopes AST SpaceMobile still develops its own consumer-facing brand identity (referencing a concept like 'Red A' branding with AT&T) so the service isn't fully invisible to end users, similar to how T-Mobile customers know they're using Starlink; he says this optionality matters for the future even though it isn't critical to the business model.

Blue Origin's TerraWave constellation and connections to canceled government programs

8
  • Kook Confirmed 00:28:22

    Blue Origin announced a new constellation called TerraWave (distinct from Amazon's Kuiper) — a space-based data-transport backbone designed to move large volumes of data between fixed endpoints (e.g., data centers, government/enterprise users), not for connecting mobile end users like a truck-driving tweeter.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:28:22

    TerraWave is planned to have a 5,300-satellite LEO layer for network access plus a 128-satellite Middle Earth Orbit (MEO) layer providing faster long-haul transport, analogous to local roads feeding into a highway.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    When TerraWave was announced this week, the ASTS stock initially gapped down as some investors feared Blue Origin was building a competitor; Kook argues this is incorrect and that TerraWave is likely complementary, not competitive, to ASTS, and could actually increase Blue Origin's New Glenn launch demand (alongside Kuiper, ASTS, and Golden Dome business), which Blue Origin itself has specifically highlighted as part of its book of business.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook connects TerraWave's announcement to the recent cancellation of MilNet, a government-operated, SpaceX-built constellation intended to provide data transport services; he says the funding instead moved to the PWSA (Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture), the broader umbrella program ASTS operates under, and speculates this reflects diversification away from SpaceX toward AST SpaceMobile, especially combined with Jeff Bezos and Abel Avellan's public congratulatory exchange.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook says community member 'Katzi' found that TerraWave's frequencies match ASTS's frequencies, suggesting technical compatibility between the two systems, and that ASTS already has relevant pieces in place (optical inter-satellite laser links, DC service links, PLM/eNodeB on satellite, and large Q/V-band feeders) that could support a military/government backhaul partnership with Blue Origin, though he notes speculation of a Blue Origin co-investment in ASTS has not materialized.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook acknowledges the Space Mob community has generally been right about these kinds of speculative connections over the past five years, with one likely exception: speculation that ASTS was connected to the classified NROL-69 program, which he now believes was probably wrong.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:28:24

    Kook mentions skeptics ('FUDsters') questioning whether Blue Origin can technically build TerraWave's complex system, including Q/V-band scalability, but says he tends to believe Blue Origin has figured it out and that it isn't ASTS's problem to solve either way.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Citing community member 'Theodorus the Atheist,' Kook speculates that once high-throughput links like TerraWave exist, the natural next step could be placing data centers in space themselves, calling this a 'gradual then sudden' trend, though he cautions the economics don't yet obviously work.

Golden Dome, Greenland, and canceled RGPS program

3
  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook revisits recent controversy over his comments on a US-Greenland deal, saying Trump secured real estate in Greenland (important for polar orbits) that will be tied to Golden Dome interceptor and ground-system infrastructure, framing it as a further sign Golden Dome is taking concrete shape.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook notes the cancellation of RGPS, a Space Force GPS-resilience program, and speculates this reflects the Space Force choosing to harmonize GPS-resilience needs with commercial systems like SpaceX and AST SpaceMobile instead of a dedicated program, which he sees as expanding ASTS's total addressable market by letting it monetize otherwise-idle capacity (e.g., over regions where GPS could be denied).

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook references a post by community member 'Tough4R' (titled 'Remember Monday, Golden Dome...') breaking down possible Golden Dome timelines, and mentions the MDA 'Noble' Award accelerated procurement process (discussed the prior week) that can compress typical decade-long procurement timelines to roughly two to three years.

Analyst coverage: Scotiabank bearish vs. Deutsche Bank and ClearStreet

8
  • Kook Disagreement 00:43:44

    Kook criticizes a Scotiabank analyst ('Andres') for publishing a bearish note on MLK Day (when US markets were closed) and for repeatedly publishing negative notes on ASTS on multiple dates (the 6th, 13th, 14th, 16th, and 19th), joking the analyst may have sold a call option and is hoping the stock stays below the strike.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Deutsche Bank raised its ASTS price target from $81 to $137 and, in the same report, modeled government/other revenue reaching approximately $200 million in 2027 (per an ASTS-investor-created infographic summarizing the report); Kook calls the $200M figure a 'finger in the air' estimate but says it could prove too low.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Deutsche Bank's report also projects 47 BlueBirds in orbit by year end and includes a longer-term out-year price target of $672; Kook notes Deutsche Bank's price-target history includes prior targets of $22 and $121 that were both later hit.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:43:44

    ClearStreet separately issued a price target of $137, identical to Deutsche Bank's revised target, which Kook found notably coincidental.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Kook disagrees with commentary suggesting five satellite launches are likely by Q1 (March 31); he personally thinks it would be a surprise to see five launches by then, expecting a New Glenn launch around early March plus possibly one Batch 1/Batch 2 launch (about four launches total), but says the exact quarterly launch count doesn't matter much as long as Batch 1 ships and Batch 2 follows in a reasonable time and production cadence syncs with launch availability.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Kook frames his own valuation approach around large step-function price levels ($50, $100, $150, $200 stock) rather than short-term quarterly launch-count noise, which he considers largely irrelevant to long-term thesis validity.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Kook mentions community member 'Katzi' found that eVTOL company Joby's telemetry-testing filings fall within the same spectrum bands ASTS operates in, citing it as an example of unforeseen future use cases (like eVTOLs and connected cars, referencing an Indian program linking cars to see around corners) that could expand ASTS's addressable market beyond current expectations.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:47

    Kook pushes back on accusations that the Space Mob community are 'paid pumpers,' stating no one he knows receives compensation from the company for promoting the stock, and instead calls major investment banks underwriting SpaceX's IPO (Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley) the real 'paid pumpers,' alleging some banks (except Bank of America) have avoided covering or mentioning ASTS to avoid upsetting Elon Musk ahead of the lucrative SpaceX IPO fees.

Starlink executive departures and Starship setbacks

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:44:34

    Ben Longmire, CEO of Starlink's direct-to-cell (DTC) business, has left the company; Kook frames this as a sign of internal problems within Starlink's DTC unit, suggesting Elon Musk likely pushed him out due to underperformance.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:44:35

    Sarah Spangelo, who had been with the DTC effort since the Swarm Technologies days, has also left Starlink, adding to Kook's view that SpaceX is undertaking a wholesale overhaul of its DTC business, which he views as bullish for AST SpaceMobile by comparison.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:44:35

    SpaceX's Starship program suffered another failure during testing, adding to a long list of challenges; Kook contrasts Elon Musk's fast-iteration approach (which he says may be hitting technical limits at Starship's scale) with Jeff Bezos's more incremental, step-by-step approach at Blue Origin, noting SpaceX has caught the booster but still hasn't gotten the full integrated Starship system to work reliably.

Space Mob community reflections (Crossroads Capital report)

2
  • Kook Untagged 00:49:56

    Kook discusses a report from Crossroads Capital describing the 'Space Mob' community's history and characterizing it as a unique, market-driven expert network distinct from traditional paid Wall Street expert networks, since Space Mob participants have personal capital ('skin in the game') at risk rather than being paid consultants offering dated, commodified perspectives.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:49:56

    Kook recalls that he initially reached out to Anpanman early in his own Space Mob involvement and was ignored/'iced,' before the two eventually became friends; he confirms he holds a long position in ASTS in response to accusations (including from 'Dr. Schlaberberger') that he is a paid pumper.

Closing remarks

1
  • Kook Speculation 00:49:56

    Kook closes by warning of potential continued volatility ahead (citing risks like another government shutdown or Iran strikes) and advises listeners not to be tricked by macro-driven volatility or FUD — sell only if you don't like the stock on its own merits, and consider that volatility can also present buying opportunities.

Watch Items8

  • FM2 (second SDA/HALO test satellite) launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn

    Not specified beyond upcoming; New Glenn is 2-for-2 on prior launches Kook 00:00:29
  • FCC approval of ASTS's full license-modification application for the constellation

    Expected soon, possibly timed around the Batch 1 shipment date ('any day now') Kook 00:00:29
  • Batch 1 satellite shipment

    "Could be any day now" per Kook Kook 00:00:29
  • New Glenn launch (carrying additional BlueBirds/related payload)

    Probably early March Kook 00:43:44
  • Possible Batch 1/Batch 2 satellite launch

    Kook doubts 5 total launches happen by Q1 (March 31); expects around 4 launches by then Kook 00:43:44
  • Deutsche Bank's projection of 47 BlueBirds in orbit

    By year end (2026) Kook 00:43:44
  • Golden Dome program milestones per Tough4R's timeline breakdown and the MDA 'Noble' accelerated procurement process

    Procurement could compress from a decade to roughly 2-3 years Kook 00:28:24
  • Other countries' D2D regulatory consultations (e.g., Nigeria, Australia, EU, UK) following the FCC's approval

    Over the next year Kook 00:00:29

Open Questions6

  • Will FM2 launch successfully on New Glenn, and if not, will the market correctly treat it as a minor setback rather than a major risk event?

    Kook 00:00:29
  • Will the FCC's approval of ASTS's constellation license-modification application be a meaningful positive catalyst for the stock price, given that much of the probability may already be priced in?

    Kook 00:00:29
  • Is there a specific commercial arrangement (beyond the New Glenn launch agreement) between Blue Origin and AST SpaceMobile — e.g., a co-investment or a formal military/government backhaul partnership leveraging TerraWave — that has not yet been publicly confirmed?

    Kook 00:28:24
  • Can Blue Origin technically deliver on TerraWave's complex system requirements, including Q/V-band scalability, as some skeptics have questioned?

    Kook 00:28:24
  • Why is Scotiabank's analyst persistently bearish and publishing notes so frequently — does the analyst have an undisclosed financial position (e.g., a short call option) driving the behavior?

    Kook 00:43:44
  • Will the company hit 47 BlueBirds in orbit by year end as Deutsche Bank projects, and will production cadence successfully sync with launch availability across Batch 1 and Batch 2?

    Kook 00:43:44
2026-01-22 24:03

Anpanman - Wake & Bake: Bluebird 7 Confirmed on New Glenn, Tera Wave FUD

Anpanman

In this solo 'Wake and Bake' episode, Anpanman covers two pieces of AST SpaceMobile news: BlueBird 7 (FM2) is now officially confirmed to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn flight 3 around the end of February 2026.

He also debunks a stock-selloff scare tied to Blue Origin's newly announced 'Tera Wave' enterprise satellite constellation. He argues it is not a competitor to ASTS and may instead become a Golden Dome backbone layer that AST's satellites interface with.

He closes with a bullish market outlook, citing a broken chart pattern, an accelerating launch cadence, and the rumored July 2026 SpaceX IPO. He also discloses his own recent stock and options purchases.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's BlueBird 7 (FM2), an SDA HALO satellite, is officially confirmed to launch aboard Blue Origin's New Glenn flight 3, with Anpanman targeting roughly the end of February 2026, potentially within days of NASA's Artemis moon mission.
  • New Glenn flight 3 is also strategically important for Blue Origin, which needs four successful launches to win Department of Defense certification for New Glenn; this would be its third.
  • Anpanman says the SpaceMob community (via due diligence starting as early as Q4 2025) correctly predicted months in advance that BlueBird 7/FM2 would fly on New Glenn 3, reaching near-100% confidence by the end of last year before official confirmation.
  • Anpanman debunks a stock selloff driven partly by AI-generated headlines about Blue Origin's newly announced 'Tera Wave' satellite constellation, explaining it targets high-end enterprise, data-center, and government customers using Q/V-band RF (144 Gbps symmetrical) and optical links (6 Tbps) that cannot connect to ordinary unmodified phones, so it does not compete with AST SpaceMobile's direct-to-device business.
  • A SpaceMob community member known as Katzi speculates that Tera Wave could become a backbone data layer for the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative, with AST's dual-use or specialized government satellites handling missile sensing/tracking, position-navigation-timing (PNT), electronic warfare (spoofing/jamming), and communications to warfighters and drones — explicitly framed as speculation, not a confirmed plan.
  • Anpanman says a recent FCC filing disclosed AST SpaceMobile is now running a production cadence of 6 satellites per month.
  • Anpanman expects AST's Q4 2025 earnings call around early March 2026, guessing March 3 (matching last year's call date), and anticipates it will cover Golden Dome updates and possibly a new definitive customer agreement.
  • Anpanman argues the stock's prior repeating 'impulse' chart pattern (spike, small pullback, higher spike, repeated roughly four times) has broken to the upside, and sees a bullish setup into the summer of 2026 driven by rising launch cadence, Golden Dome catalysts, and increased investor attention ahead of a rumored SpaceX IPO targeted for July 2026.
  • Anpanman disclosed buying 5,000 ASTS shares during a recent pullback and 250 July $150/$180 call spreads (paying roughly $3.80-$4.20 per spread on a $30-wide spread), describing these as speculative trades separate from a core position he doesn't touch; some of the specific purchase prices he cited appeared internally inconsistent in the recording.
  • AST SpaceMobile is targeting 5 orbital launches by the end of March 2026, and Anpanman expects another batch of 3 BlueBird satellites to ship to Cape Canaveral for a Falcon 9 launch roughly a week or two after the New Glenn 3 mission, though SpaceX pad congestion could cause some delay.

Detailed Discussion5 topics

BlueBird 7 / New Glenn 3 launch confirmation

5
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    BlueBird 7 is officially confirmed to launch aboard Blue Origin's New Glenn 3; a firmer date is still to come but it looks like the end of February 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    There's a decent chance NASA's Artemis moon mission (astronauts orbiting the moon and returning, ahead of a later landing mission) launches in the second half of February 2026 as well, potentially within 2-4 days of the New Glenn/BlueBird 7 launch, giving shareholders a chance to see both missions close together.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    BlueBird 6 (FM1) and BlueBird 7 (FM2) are both SDA HALO satellites, which is why it makes sense for BlueBird 7 to fly on New Glenn: Blue Origin is trying to get New Glenn certified for Department of Defense work and needs 4 successful launches to qualify, with this being its 3rd.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    As with the Block 1 launch, the company will likely run a signup process for shareholders to attend the launch viewing, but invites this time will probably be more rationed (his guess: roughly a third Blue Origin/government guests to two-thirds SpaceMob, or possibly half-half) versus the Block 1 SpaceX Falcon 9 launch where nearly everyone who signed up got an invite; attendees don't need a formal viewing-area seat, since the rocket is visible from anywhere in the Cape area for several miles.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The SpaceMob community's due diligence correctly called BlueBird 7/FM2 going on New Glenn 3 as early as Q4 2025, with confidence rising to nearly 100% by the end of last year before today's official confirmation; he credits contributors including Katzi, Cook, Tut, Kevin Chen, Tanner, and Redrum, and floated the idea of publishing a list of accounts to follow for new investors.

Tera Wave FUD debunked

5
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    The stock sold off heavily yesterday, partly driven by AI-generated ('AI slop') headlines, on fear that Blue Origin's newly announced 'Tera Wave' constellation would compete with AST SpaceMobile — a fear he says is unfounded.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Tera Wave is a Blue Origin constellation in low and medium Earth orbit aimed at high-end enterprise, data-center, and government customers, offering symmetrical download/upload speeds of 144 gigabits per second via Q/V-band RF and up to 6 terabits per second via optical links — spectrum and power requirements that cannot connect to ordinary unmodified mobile phones, unlike AST's cellular-band architecture.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    He cites an account called Mega Constellations, which wrote that given the claimed throughput, each Tera Wave satellite would likely only serve a handful of customers at a time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    A SpaceMob community member known as Katzi noted that Tera Wave uses Q/V band — the same bands AST's own gateway/feeder antennas can point up into space with — and speculated that Tera Wave could become a Golden Dome backbone data layer, with AST's composite or specialized government satellites interfacing with it to handle missile-launch sensing/detection and tracking, position-navigation-timing (PNT), electronic warfare (spoofing, jamming), and communications to warfighters, drones, and other assets on the ground.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:01

    Anpanman says he independently found it odd that Tera Wave would use optical links and Q/V band for direct uplink/downlink to ground customers, since that requires a strong tracking antenna on the customer's end — but it makes much more sense as a backbone connecting to other satellites, which supports Katzi's theory.

Chart pattern and market outlook

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:01

    The stock had previously followed a repeating '1-2-3 impulse' chart pattern (spike up, small pullback, bigger spike, pullback, smaller spike, cool off) roughly four times, but the current move has broken that pattern, with each impulse now bigger than the last.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:01

    He attributes the pattern break to the company now pursuing Golden Dome business (changing the overall company story) plus a shift from one launch every several months/a year to launches roughly every month to month-and-a-half.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    Elon Musk has targeted SpaceX going public by July 2026; Anpanman expects that as institutional investors research the space sector ahead of that IPO, it will draw new investment interest and speculative capital into the whole sector, benefiting AST SpaceMobile.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    He believes the setup for ASTS heading into summer 2026 is very bullish given ongoing launch catalysts, potential Golden Dome awards (e.g., via SHIELD, and speculatively via a program he calls NOBL), and rising sector attention; he suggests a prior end-of-year stock price guess of $200-300 could be reached sooner than expected.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    He mentions one of the largest financial publications is currently writing a story about the SpaceMob community and AST SpaceMobile, and relays an anecdote about two real-estate attorneys at his recent New York property closing who quickly grasped the AST SpaceMobile pitch (one had experienced poor existing satellite phone service on T-Mobile) and, he believes, likely bought shares afterward — offered as evidence of growing mainstream awareness.

Launch cadence and upcoming batches

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:01

    A separate batch of 3 BlueBird satellites is expected to ship down to Cape Canaveral for a SpaceX Falcon 9 launch, possibly as soon as this week or next week, with the Falcon 9 launch itself expected roughly a week or two after the New Glenn 3 mission; SpaceX currently has only one active pad and a backlog integrating payloads into fairings, which could cause some delay.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:14:55

    The company is targeting 5 orbital launches by the end of March 2026; he says it will likely be close, counting the New Glenn/BlueBird 7 mission plus another batch expected shortly after, and it's unclear whether the 5th will land just before or shortly after the March deadline — though he notes a slip of a few weeks or months doesn't matter much given the buildout is inevitable.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:14:55

    A recent FCC filing disclosed that AST SpaceMobile is now at a production cadence of 6 satellites per month.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    He expects AST's Q4 2025 earnings call in early March 2026, guessing March 3rd since that matches last year's call date (per Bloomberg's estimate); he expects the call to cover Golden Dome progress and possibly a new definitive customer agreement, alongside updates on satellite batches shipped to the Cape and the completed BlueBird 7/New Glenn launch.

Anpanman's personal trading disclosure

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    Anpanman disclosed buying 5,000 ASTS shares during yesterday's pullback; he described purchase prices during the dip as around $198, then separately said he bought some shares at $101 and the rest at $98 — the figures were inconsistent/unclear in his account and should be treated as uncertain rather than smoothed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    He also bought 250 of the July $150/$180 call spreads, paying roughly $3.80 to $4.20 per spread on a $30-wide spread, calling it highly speculative and saying options should be assumed a total loss; this was part of a separate speculative trading allocation distinct from a core position he doesn't touch.

Watch Items7

  • BlueBird 7 (FM2) launch aboard Blue Origin New Glenn flight 3

    End of February 2026 (firmer date still pending) Anpanman 00:00:25
  • NASA Artemis moon mission launch

    Possibly second half of February 2026 Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Next batch of 3 BlueBird satellites shipped to Cape Canaveral

    As soon as this week or next week Anpanman 00:11:01
  • Falcon 9 launch of the next BlueBird batch

    Roughly a week or two after the New Glenn 3 launch Anpanman 00:14:55
  • Company target of 5 orbital launches

    By end of March 2026 Anpanman 00:14:55
  • AST SpaceMobile Q4 2025 earnings call

    Guessed for early March 2026, possibly March 3rd Anpanman 00:14:55
  • SpaceX IPO

    Targeted by July 2026 per Elon Musk Anpanman 00:14:55

Open Questions3

  • How exactly will Blue Origin/AST allocate the limited launch-viewing invitations for the New Glenn 3 launch (lottery versus selective invite), and what will the actual split between SpaceMob and Blue Origin/government guests be?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Will AST SpaceMobile actually hit its target of 5 orbital launches by the end of March 2026 given SpaceX's single-pad backlog and fairing integration delays?

    Anpanman 00:14:55
  • Is Katzi's theory correct that Blue Origin's Tera Wave constellation will serve as a Golden Dome backbone data layer that AST's dual-use or government satellites interface with?

    Anpanman 00:11:01
2026-01-20 51:41

Kook's Weekly - January 19 - Golden Dome Confirmed, Blue Origin Synergies, and the Dual-Use Validation

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' recap, recorded Monday Jan 19, 2026, Kook breaks down AST SpaceMobile's confirmation as a government contractor.

'AST SpaceMobile USA, LLC' appeared in the third tranche of the MDA SHIELD ('Golden Dome') contract list, followed by a company press release and a confirming tweet from Scott Wisniewski. He connects this to a likely Blue Origin New Glenn launch for the FM2 satellite.

He reviews evidence the company is now producing ~6 satellites/month, and argues this is the long-awaited 'official' validation of AST's dual-use (commercial + government) business model that de-risks the investment thesis.

He closes by addressing short-seller arguments, a theory that Elon Musk is pressuring banks to avoid covering ASTS, Rakuten's Mickey Mikitani leaving AST's board, and his broader 'secular trend' bull case for the stock reaching a $500B-$1T+ market cap.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile (ASTS) was confirmed as a government contractor after the entity 'AST SpaceMobile USA, LLC' appeared in the third tranche of contract recipients on the Missile Defense Agency's SHIELD program (part of the 'Golden Dome' missile defense initiative), discovered via Sam.gov on Thursday Jan 15, 2026, followed by an official AST press release the next day and a tweet from President Scott Wisniewski confirming a 'Golden Dome indefinite quantity contract.'
  • Kook believes being in the third tranche (rather than an earlier one) signals AST underwent deep vetting of unique/differentiated capabilities versus commodity providers typically placed in earlier tranches, per analysis he attributes to an X user 'Katsy.'
  • The stock rose roughly 10% the Thursday of the SAM.gov discovery and continued higher Friday on official confirmation, adding an estimated $8 billion in market cap; Kook personally estimates the underlying contract could be worth at least $1 billion, meaning the market priced the news at roughly 8x that revenue estimate.
  • Kook connects AST's FM2 satellite launch to Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket, noting New Glenn's third flight is one of four required to qualify Blue Origin for government launch business, and that Blue Origin's larger '9x4' ('Big Dog') rocket variant specifically named AST SpaceMobile and Golden Dome as clients in its marketing materials — though the specific FM2/New Glenn pairing is not officially confirmed by the company, only inferred from circumstantial and photographic evidence.
  • Company FCC filings show AST SpaceMobile is now producing satellites at a rate of approximately 6 per month from its Midland, Texas facility; Kook says this means the company is currently launch-constrained rather than production-constrained, with a more consistent launch cadence expected once New Glenn and other launch vehicles ramp up around May/June 2026.
  • Community reconnaissance by an X user going by 'Florida Salty Man' found that AST's previously-announced Homestead, Florida manufacturing site (located on a military base) is now under active construction ('no longer a pasture'), which Kook believes will add capacity aimed at government-related satellite production, separate from a new specialized-array building being added in Midland.
  • Mickey Mikitani (Rakuten) has left AST's board of directors; Kook frames this as routine governance mechanics tied to Rakuten's reduced ownership stake falling below the threshold specified in AST's investor rights agreement (from ATM sales and note conversions), and notes it is generally sound governance practice to remove a commercial partner/customer (an MNO) from a board given conflicts of interest.
  • Kook floats his own speculative idea that AST SpaceMobile could someday acquire Iridium to instantly gain a roughly $1 billion book of government business, additional global spectrum (he estimates ~12 MHz), and improved margins by transitioning Iridium's constellation onto AST's own — explicitly framed as his personal speculation and a debate he had with 'King Tut,' not something the company has indicated.
  • Kook theorizes (self-described as possibly 'lost his mind') that Elon Musk is pressuring investment banks to avoid covering ASTS positively ahead of a rumored SpaceX IPO, citing a coincident X/Twitter outage and Morgan Stanley's exclusion of ASTS from a space-sector industry report as circumstantial evidence — explicitly framed as his own cynical opinion, not confirmed fact.
  • Kook says AST continues to meet with the FCC and is 'getting pretty close' to full regulatory approval (Supplemental Coverage from Space market access) for its broader US satellite constellation, distinct from the Special Temporary Authorities (STAs) it currently operates under.
  • The EU's 2 GHz mobile satellite spectrum, currently used by Viasat and Echostar under licenses set to expire 'next year,' is entering a new allocation process; Kook believes Vodafone, via its SatCo joint venture with AST (structured to be fully European-controlled), is well-positioned to win that spectrum over SpaceX given EU skepticism about relying on SpaceX/Starlink.
  • Kook notes Abel Avellan has shown no meaningful insider selling — aside from a prepaid forward on a small portion of his shares, which he later rolled forward rather than letting the shares be called away — reinforcing Kook's view of Avellan as a fully committed, no-salary owner-operator.

Detailed Discussion13 topics

Golden Dome / MDA SHIELD Contract Confirmation

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Space Mob had been speculating, based on diligence rather than blind guessing, that ASTS would become a government contractor, and last week that speculation was confirmed.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:27

    On Thursday, Space Mob found 'AST SpaceMobile USA LLC' listed in the third tranche of recipients on Sam.gov related to the MDA SHIELD project; Anpanman was reportedly buying stock aggressively ('lifting offers') on the news.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The following day, AST put out a press release confirming they were part of the MDA SHIELD project, and Scott Wisniewski tweeted specifically confirming a 'Golden Dome indefinite quantity contract.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    The stock ripped about 10% on Thursday and moved further on Friday, adding roughly $8 billion of market cap around the news; Kook estimates a contract like this is worth at least about $1 billion, so the market pricing it at roughly 8x that revenue estimate struck him as fairly rational, though he expects shorts to disagree.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:27

    Kook stresses what was actually announced is that AST was 'picked to get' Golden Dome (added to the approved vendor pool) — a 'license to hunt' — not a specific named task order with a disclosed dollar amount or defined scope.

Analysis of the SHIELD Contract Tranche and Use Cases

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Citing analysis from X user 'Katsy,' Kook argues that being placed in the third (later) tranche of SHIELD recipients indicates deeper vetting of unique, differentiated capabilities, whereas commodity-type vendors tend to land in the earlier tranches.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook cites ITU filings showing AST's orbital plan includes sun-synchronous orbit shells (not needed for commercial service) and satellites at lower, staggered altitudes, which he and others believe point to Position, Navigation, and Tracking (PNT)-type government applications, plus roles in a 'transport layer' (moving data around in space) and a 'custody layer' (tracking identified assets such as mobile missile launchers).

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Citing an AI-generated analysis from 'S&J Investments,' Kook says the SHIELD contract gives AST access to a shared $151 billion government funding pool, the ability to skip 18-month procurement cycles for rapid contract awards, and an official designation as critical dual-use infrastructure.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    A contributor called 'the Spectator' highlighted Fairwinds posts referencing AST's engagement with the US Armed Services, Space Force, Air Force, Army, and Navy, including militarized AST broadband devices and AST tactical hub systems.

Dual-Use Revenue Model Validation

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook admits that being 'too close' to a stock (having long believed something would happen) can make you numb to how big a confirmation event actually is — he personally wasn't surprised by Golden Dome and didn't buy more shares after the news, which he says was the wrong mindset.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook relays that Anpanman pointed out this is the official validation of the dual-use (commercial + government) revenue model that skeptics previously dismissed ('the clueless cult'), representing a material de-risking event for investors on the sidelines and opening a new stream of total addressable market, comparable to how SpaceX's Starshield validated a similar opportunity.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook notes the company had already been discussing government work for 6-7 quarters, including the DIU award and the Halo award, but investors remained skeptical until this SHIELD confirmation.

NOBLE Contract Opportunity

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook flags the MDA's NOBLE contract (Nimble Options for Buying Layered Effects) — a flexible acquisition vehicle/wrapper allowing the government to buy technology quickly — as a potentially large opportunity that some in Space Mob (e.g., Kevin Chen) have focused on, but which Kook admits he hasn't researched much and hasn't included in his due-diligence doc.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook notes Anpanman tweeted about the NOBLE contract this week (with a Cerberus/globe image), describing it as an 'open invitation' that could be awarded at any time and could expand AST's technology into additional, mostly non-communication, use cases.

Manufacturing Expansion and Production Cadence

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:27

    An X user 'Florida Salty Man' drove by AST's Homestead, Florida site (located on a military base) and found it is no longer a pasture, posting photos of the building where AST will increase satellite production; Kook believes this capacity is aimed at government applications, though the exact split with Midland's new special-array building isn't clear.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook says Scott Wisniewski's comments on a prior call led him to believe the new Midland building is for Golden Dome-focused arrays that may differ from typical communication-satellite arrays, though he stresses this is his own speculation and not confirmed.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:24:18

    AST's FCC filings show the company is currently producing satellites at a rate of approximately 6 per month from its Midland facility ('we are currently producing approximately 6 satellites a month from our Midland facility'); Kook believes AST is now launch-constrained rather than production-constrained.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook expects a more synchronized, sustained satellite launch cadence once the company gets to May and June 2026, after which he believes the pace of milestones will accelerate meaningfully.

Blue Origin / New Glenn Connection

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook says there is now 'ample,' including photographic, evidence of a meaningful business relationship between AST SpaceMobile and Blue Origin, and that FM2 (an SDA government satellite) is likely to launch on New Glenn's third flight, which is one of four launches Blue Origin needs to qualify for government business — a pairing he calls synergistic for both companies, though not officially confirmed.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook notes Blue Origin's larger '9x4' ('Big Dog') rocket variant specifically named AST SpaceMobile and Golden Dome in its description of clients being served, which he took as an early hint (calling it 'hopium' at the time) that this customized rocket would be used to deliver AST's Golden Dome capabilities.

Stock Valuation Framework and Short-Seller Critique

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook argues the market is shifting AST's investment case from 'if' statements (if ARPU is X, if user counts reach Y, if the constellation is delivered, the company does $40 billion of revenue) toward 'unless' statements (the company will do $40 billion of revenue unless people stop using cell phones), citing this shift as the real catalyst for share-price re-rating, and notes the stock has already moved from roughly $40 to roughly $100 as some of those variables have been de-risked.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook references a Deutsche Bank price estimate of around $700/share for AST SpaceMobile as an example of what he considers plausible once more variables shift from 'if' to 'unless.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:41

    Responding to the short thesis question of 'why doesn't AT&T just do this themselves,' Kook argues incumbent MNOs and tower companies lack AST's roughly 400 RF PhDs, are structured as dividend-paying businesses unable to redirect a billion dollars of R&D spend, and are unlikely to pivot into space-based connectivity.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:24:16

    On the SpaceX competitive threat, Kook concedes SpaceX is a formidable competitor with a more credible ability to pivot than AT&T or tower companies, but argues early market-share leaders (citing Coinbase and Robinhood as analogies) tend to retain defensible positions that are hard for others to displace once a market becomes large.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:47:54

    Kook says he personally knows the short-seller from Raging Capital, whose thesis is that AST is 'Iridium IPO 2.0'; Kook dismisses this as a conclusion someone would reach after only about 5 minutes of due diligence.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:47:54

    Kook cites a short-seller who writes as '@valuations,' whose thesis conceded that if AST's Golden Dome ('hopium') speculation turned out to be true, it would undermine his own short case — which Kook notes happened almost immediately after, when the Golden Dome contract was confirmed.

Elon Musk / Morgan Stanley Coverage Theory

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook theorizes that an X/Twitter outage occurring around the same time as the Golden Dome announcement, combined with Morgan Stanley excluding ASTS from a space-sector industry report, reflects a deliberate effort by Elon Musk to muffle coverage of AST SpaceMobile, speculating banks with SpaceX IPO relationships are avoiding positive ASTS coverage to avoid upsetting Musk ahead of a potential SpaceX IPO.

FCC Regulatory Approval Status

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook says the FCC continues to meet with AST SpaceMobile and is 'getting pretty close' to granting full Supplemental Coverage from Space (SCS) market access approval for AST's broader US constellation, beyond the Special Temporary Authorities (STAs) it currently operates under; he expresses high confidence this approval will ultimately happen, though he doesn't know the timing or market reaction.

EU Spectrum / SatCo / Vodafone

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook notes the EU is skeptical of relying on SpaceX for satellite services and that the 2 GHz mobile satellite band currently used by Viasat and Echostar (licenses expiring next year) is entering a new allocation process; he believes SpaceX won't win that spectrum and that Vodafone, via the SatCo joint venture (structured as a fully European entity), is well-positioned to secure it instead.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook flags a risk that escalating US-Europe tensions (referencing the Greenland situation) could Balkanize relations to a degree that complicates AST's EU spectrum ambitions, though he still views AST's European-controlled SatCo structure as putting it in a strong position to serve the EU market with Vodafone.

Big Idea / Secular Trend Thesis

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook frames 'Space 2.0' as a secular megatrend comparable to the rise of social media or SaaS, arguing that governments rallying around satellite technology (missile defense, backup GPS, resilient communications) and Starlink's roughly 10 million subscribers and rapid growth support the case for an ever-expanding total addressable market.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Citing Steve Mandel of Lone Pine Capital, Kook argues fast-growing companies that look expensive on current earnings (using Google and Nvidia as historical examples) are often actually cheap in hindsight, and that early market-share leaders in newly expanding markets tend to become hard-to-displace incumbents.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook speculates that AST SpaceMobile could someday acquire Iridium, which would immediately add roughly a $1 billion book of government business, allow upselling of improved services, let Iridium's constellation deorbit onto AST's own network for high margins, and add an estimated ~12 MHz of global spectrum cheaply, with dilution to ASTS shareholders that 'you wouldn't even notice' — explicitly framed as his own idea (debated with 'King Tut'), not company guidance.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook says he judges AST management as being in 'empire mode' (thinking in terms of a $500 billion to $1 trillion+ market cap outcome) based on aggressive moves like the SatCo venture and spectrum positioning, comparing Abel Avellan's ambition to comments Jeff Bezos has made about space being a multi-trillion-dollar market.

Corporate Governance

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:24:18

    Kook notes Mickey Mikitani (Rakuten) left AST's board this week; he explains this as standard board dynamics — Rakuten's stake fell below the ownership threshold specified in AST's investor rights agreement (following ATM sales and convertible note conversions), so the company was no longer contractually obligated to keep Rakuten's board seat, and it's generally sound practice to remove an MNO/customer from a board given competing commercial interests.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook points to Abel Avellan's lack of meaningful insider selling — aside from a small prepaid forward on his shares that he later rolled forward rather than letting be called away — plus his lack of a salary and modest option grant, as strong signals of an all-in owner-operator.

Near-Term Market Dynamics

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook expects a market correction/pullback in the near term driven by Greenland-related tariff noise with Europe, but argues that increased US investment in missile defense stemming from the Greenland situation is actually positive for AST SpaceMobile.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:24:18

    Kook recalls that in October, the stock ran to $100 and then corrected to $50, causing some investors to panic-sell, when patience would have left them up 12-16% even at the worst entry point — a lesson in not getting shaken out of the position by volatility.

Watch Items5

  • FCC approval of AST's broad Supplemental Coverage from Space (SCS) constellation license (full US market access, beyond current STAs)

    Described as 'getting pretty close,' no firm date given Kook 00:24:18
  • More synchronized/consistent satellite launch cadence as production (~6/month) catches up with available launch vehicles

    Expected around May/June 2026 Kook 00:24:18
  • Potential MDA NOBLE (Nimble Options for Buying Layered Effects) contract award, a flexible government acquisition vehicle

    Could happen at any time (per Anpanman's characterization as an 'open invitation') Kook 00:00:27
  • EU 2 GHz mobile satellite spectrum reallocation (currently held by Viasat/Echostar), contested between SpaceX and Vodafone's SatCo

    Current licenses expire 'next year' (~2027), new allocation process underway Kook 00:24:18
  • New Glenn's third launch, believed likely to carry FM2, as one of four flights Blue Origin needs to qualify for government launch business

    Near-term, exact date/vehicle not officially confirmed by the company Kook 00:00:27

Open Questions4

  • What is the actual scope, named task order, and dollar value of AST's MDA SHIELD/Golden Dome contract? Kook notes AST was only added to an approved vendor list ('picked to get' Golden Dome), without a disclosed contract name or dollar amount.

    Kook 00:00:27
  • What will AST's ARPU (average revenue per user) actually be once commercial service is live? Kook says this remains undefined and is the central unresolved point in the short thesis that can't be disproven until it happens.

    Kook 00:24:18
  • Will FM2 in fact launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn (specifically its third flight)? Kook says the evidence is strong but not officially confirmed by the company.

    Kook 00:00:27
  • When will the FCC actually grant AST's broad SCS constellation approval, and how will the stock react to that news?

    Kook 00:24:18
2026-01-16 50:16

Anpanman - Golden Dome Unlocked

Anpanman

In an impromptu, solo X Spaces session recorded the evening the news broke (published 2026-01-16), Anpanman walks through AST SpaceMobile's selection as an IDIQ recipient on the Missile Defense Agency's 'SHIELD' program.

SHIELD is the primary contracting vehicle for the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative with a $151 billion shared program ceiling over 10 years. He frames the selection as long-awaited validation of the 'dual-use' defense thesis that community researcher CatSE (Katzy) championed since 2021-2022.

He also walks through the mechanics of the award and a second pending opportunity (MDA 'Noble'), reacts to the stock's jump toward $107, and pushes back on skeptical analysts and short sellers.

His headline conclusion: 2026 is shaping up to be the year defense revenue becomes the dominant, and increasingly unignorable, part of AST SpaceMobile's story.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile was named an IDIQ (Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity) recipient on the Missile Defense Agency's SHIELD program (Scalable Homeland Innovative Enterprise Layer Defense), the primary contracting vehicle for the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative, with a program ceiling of $151 billion shared across multiple awardees over 10 years.
  • The IDIQ award itself is not a guarantee of specific revenue — it prequalifies AST as a 'program of record' so the company can now compete for and win individual Golden Dome task orders; Anpanman spitballs this first tranche could be worth roughly $1 to $2.5 billion to AST, though he stresses this is an estimate.
  • A second, potentially larger Golden Dome-related opportunity called MDA 'Noble' (an umbrella vehicle for rapidly funding non-traditional defense contractors on space-based sensors and electronic warfare) is still pending; Anpanman characterizes today's award as 'big' and Noble as potentially 'massive.'
  • ASTS stock moved from about $101.30 (where Anpanman bought 2,000 shares) up through $103.30 (where he bought 2,000 more) to a reported $107.36 the following session on the news.
  • AST President Scott Wisniewski has guided that a majority of 2026 revenue will come from defense contracts, with meaningful commercial MNO revenue not expected until 2027; Anpanman characterizes this as implying 'hundreds of millions' of revenue in 2026, though he frames the specific figure as his own read on Scott's comments.
  • FM1 and FM2 (HALO-program prototype satellites for the Space Development Agency) are sitting at Cape Canaveral awaiting launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3; Anpanman believes the launch has slipped from a January target to likely February, possibly March, due to government-requirement changes and New Glenn booster-refurbishment delays.
  • Community researcher CatSE (Katzy) is credited as having first argued AST's large phased-array satellites could serve non-communications defense applications (radar sensing, GPS backup, electronic warfare) as far back as 2021-2022, sustaining that thesis through the stock's early-2024 lows near $2.
  • Wall Street analysts B. Riley and Scotiabank downgraded ASTS in the days just before the Golden Dome award, and their price targets ($105 for B. Riley, $45.60 for Scotiabank) are now well below the trading price, which Anpanman expects will force upward ratings/target revisions.
  • Anpanman rebuts a bearish Seeking Alpha piece (Pythia Research) that flagged American Tower's sale of 2.28 million ASTS shares as a risk signal, arguing it reflects broader tower-sector stress from satellite-based supplemental coverage (citing American Tower's $1.9 billion cash versus $45 billion debt) rather than a negative read on AST specifically.
  • Short interest in ASTS was roughly 40.8 million shares on January 9, falling to about 38.5 million shares by January 12 and holding flat through January 14, per Anpanman's data (he states the January 9 figure with an ambiguous 'billion' unit that appears to be a slip for millions given the later figures).

Detailed Discussion11 topics

The MDA SHIELD Golden Dome Award

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile was named a recipient of the 3rd tranche of the Missile Defense Agency's SHIELD program (Scalable Homeland Innovative Enterprise Layer Defense), the primary contracting vehicle for the Golden Dome initiative to develop a multi-domain system to detect, track and intercept advanced threats like hypersonics, ballistics and cruise missiles; the total program ceiling is $151 billion shared across multiple awards over 10 years.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    The award is an IDIQ (indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity) contract vehicle — it doesn't hand AST guaranteed revenue directly but 'prequalifies' the company to then go pursue billions of dollars of specific Golden Dome task-order work, moving AST from a one-off experiment to a program of record.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Spitballing potential dollar value, Anpanman estimates this first tranche could be worth roughly $1 billion to $2.5 billion to AST, explicitly caveating 'we'll see.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He notes the timing lines up with what the community had been expecting — Space Mob had pushed its prediction to 'mid-January,' and the award materialized on January 15.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman is hopeful AST issues a formal PR/8-K on the award (as it did previously for the SDA and DIU awards) and says if he were company counsel he'd consider the news material enough to require an 8-K filing at minimum.

Dual-Use Thesis and Community Due Diligence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Community researcher CatSE ('Katzy') is credited as the first, going back to 2021-2022, to argue that AST's large phased-array satellites could be used for radar sensing, GPS backup, electronic warfare and other non-communications military applications beyond connectivity — roughly 10 different defense use cases are now understood to be applicable.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    CatSE kept publishing this dual-use due diligence even during the stock's trough near $2 in early 2024, despite skepticism at times from within the community, including from Anpanman and Kook themselves.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman references having circulated Golden Dome-themed graphics referencing Cerberus (a defense-focused investor with a stake in Ligado) standing over a golden dome above the US, tied to the fact that Cerberus co-founder Steve Feinberg serves as the Department of War's number two — used as part of the community's argument that Ligado spectrum would be integral to Golden Dome.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Scott Wisniewski has stated that the defense business will be bigger than the commercial business in the company's early years.

MDA 'Noble' — the Second Golden Dome Opportunity

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    AST is separately being evaluated for MDA 'Noble,' described as a specialized umbrella vehicle ('nimble options for buying layered effects') designed to bypass traditional slow military procurement, letting MDA rapidly fund non-traditional contractors like commercial space companies through submitted white papers rather than a single rigid contract.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The Noble solicitation calls specifically for space-based sensors and integrated non-kinetic/electronic warfare capabilities — detecting RF launches, tracking hypersonic signatures, jamming and intelligence-gathering — which Anpanman argues fits AST's phased-array satellites well with only limited software/hardware changes.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman characterizes today's SHIELD award as 'big' in the company's own sizing language, while the still-pending Noble opportunity could be 'massive'; he is uncertain on timing, guessing it could come in 'a few days, weeks.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He argues this Noble-type work would shift AST's positioning from a communications provider (data to warfighters, drone/vehicle coordination) toward being part of the actual 'kill chain' — detecting and stopping missile threats — which could command higher margins and stickier contracts than standard connectivity.

Existing Defense Contracts and FM1/FM2 Launch Timeline

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Heading into this award, AST already had 9 military contracts, including the SDA's roughly $43 million award; the SDA is itself part of the Golden Dome/SHIELD ecosystem.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    FM1 and FM2, currently at Cape Canaveral awaiting launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3, are HALO-program satellites — SDA funding developed these as prototypes to prove out AST's technology, and Anpanman believes HALO also pays for the launches (both the ISRO LVM3 and this New Glenn launch).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST also received about $10 million from the Defense Innovation Unit (DIU), described as effectively 'Skunk Works' for the Department of War, tasked with evaluating next-generation technologies for adoption across military branches.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman believes (without full certainty) the FM1/FM2 New Glenn 3 launch has slipped from a January target to more likely February, and possibly into March, due to government-requirement changes that delayed satellite completion plus New Glenn booster-refurbishment delays tied to reusing a previously flown booster for the first time.

2026 Revenue Guidance and Production Capacity

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    At a recent Bank of America conference, Scott Wisniewski reiterated guidance of $50 to $75 million of second-half revenue; Anpanman thinks there's a reasonable chance it lands at the lower end given the FM1/FM2 launch delays.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Scott has said 2026 will be the year of commercialization and wants investors to shift from counting launch cadence to counting revenue; the majority of 2026 revenue is expected to come from defense contracts, with commercial MNO revenue becoming meaningful in 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman's own characterization of Scott's comments is that 2026 revenue could reach 'hundreds of millions,' implying the 9 existing defense contracts are expected to grow materially and that new Golden Dome-related orders are anticipated.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    At the same conference, Scott discussed potentially ramping satellite production from 6 per month to 10-12 per month, plus a dedicated new Midland site solely for building Micron modules, and referenced a 'government shell' — Anpanman reads this as signaling AST expects large military orders requiring a separate, third constellation dedicated to defense applications (distinct from the low-band and Ligado mid-band commercial constellations).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Manufacturing footprint has grown from what the community once considered a large 400,000 square feet to 500,000 square feet currently, with Anpanman speculating it could flex up further to 600,000-700,000 square feet.

Market Reaction and Trading Activity

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    The news broke after hours; the stock moved from about $101.30, where Anpanman bought 2,000 shares, up to about $103.30, where he bought another 2,000 shares, and was trading at $107.36 on decent volume as of the recording.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman contrasts this reaction with awards to peers like Rocket Lab, Voyager and Firefly, which he says are typically already 'priced in' and expected; he argues the market was more surprised by AST's award because most investors don't fully appreciate the non-communications applications of AST's large phased arrays.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He predicted to Kook (before the news) that the market reaction to a Golden Dome-related announcement would be very positive, and says that's what played out.

Analyst Ratings and Price Targets

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    B. Riley and Scotiabank both downgraded AST shortly before the award (about 1 and 3 days prior, respectively); B. Riley's downgrade nonetheless raised its price target to $105, now the highest street target and below the current trading price.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Current street price targets cited: Scotiabank $45.60 (sell), UBS $43 (neutral, stale from early December), Clear Street $87 (mid-November), Deutsche Bank $81, Roth Capital $82.50, Cantor $80, and Barclays $60 (downgraded to underweight in mid-October).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman expects most of these analysts will have to raise price targets given the news, though he expects Scotiabank specifically to resist changing its view, noting Scotia's notes since June have not meaningfully addressed the defense angle.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He suspects much of the street is waiting for further satellite launches and unfolding events before getting more aggressive with rating/target upgrades, which he calls a fair posture.

Short Seller Pushback

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    A short seller referred to as 'Raging Capital,' who Anpanman says made his money on message boards before moving into asset management/venture, argued a week or two prior that AST is 'basically another Iridium'; Anpanman rebuts this, arguing the world and technology have changed since the 1990s and that AST provides connectivity to unmodified phones rather than requiring a dedicated $1,000 satellite handset.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    A short seller write-up (unnamed) argued AST would only ever be a minor sub-prime contractor with low margins on any defense work; Anpanman disputes this, saying AST is actually a prime contractor for the SDA and receives direct work with meaningfully sized contracts.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    Seeking Alpha contributor Pythia Research published a piece titled 'AST SpaceMobile Reality Check,' which Anpanman dismisses as a low-quality outlet; one claim he specifically rebuts is that American Tower sold 2.28 million shares pre-launch as a valuation-driven risk-management signal, despite retaining a 0.84% economic stake.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He also references a short seller nicknamed 'Valuations,' who he says built a meme/cult-framing short thesis rather than substantive new arguments, and notes newer short sellers tend to omit or downplay the military side of the business because they don't understand it.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Short interest was about 40.8 million shares on January 9, falling to about 38.5 million shares by January 12, and held roughly flat through January 12-14; he attributes some of the move to short covering and some to convertible-bond arbitrage traders delta-hedging.

American Tower Stake Sale and Tower Sector Read-Through

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman contextualizes American Tower's share sale as part of a broader tower-sector decline: after EchoStar pulled back its own network buildout, the market lost a 4th major tower spender, pressuring American Tower, Crown Castle and SBA share prices, compounded by growing fears that Supplemental Coverage from Space will erode tower demand.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    He cites American Tower's balance sheet as having $1.9 billion of cash against $45 billion of debt, framing the sale of Class A shares (while retaining Class B shares) as sensible financial planning that also captured a strong return, rather than a bearish signal on AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He draws a parallel to Iridium, which he says the market similarly dismissed on the supplemental-coverage-from-space threat before 'suddenly' waking up, with Iridium's stock falling from around $40 to about $19.

Valuation Debate

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    Responding to a listener referencing a Substack calling Golden Dome 'hopium,' Anpanman rejects the framing and compares persistent short-seller skepticism to years of similar valuation-based shorting against Tesla, arguing hedge funds' short time horizons cause them to miss longer-term inflection points.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He recalls Scotiabank's bear-case model using an out-year free cash flow build of roughly $3.5 billion, growing to $6 billion, then $10 billion, then about $17.5 billion (around 2032), noting that reaching $17.5 billion in annual free cash flow would place AST among the top 10 public companies by free cash flow — using Scotia's own bearish model to argue the long-term case is actually very large.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He argues the short case has historically focused only on commercial adoption/willingness-to-pay and largely ignored the defense side, where no one has really built a quantified valuation argument; he guesses defense could be worth 'a few billion' in annual revenue depending on use cases, covering radar sensing and electronic warfare in addition to communications.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    On sum-of-the-parts valuation of AST's roughly $40 billion market cap, he pushes back on the idea that a $12-15 billion valuation for the Ligado spectrum alone is excessive, leaving $25-30 billion for the combined commercial and military business, arguing this isn't unreasonable and drawing a parallel to EchoStar, whose spectrum was undervalued by the market until AT&T and Starlink/SpaceX-related deals repriced it.

Broader Context: Golden Dome Urgency, Geopolitics, and Sector Sentiment

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He notes the Trump administration has stated a goal of having Golden Dome operational before the President leaves office, adding time pressure to the buildout and reinforcing the case for well-resourcing capable providers like AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He frames the broader competitive dynamic as the US and its space companies (including AST and Starlink) versus China's efforts to replicate US space capabilities, rather than AST and Starlink being true adversaries, noting the commercial market is large enough for both.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He references FCC Chair Carr's comments identifying direct-to-cell as a key area of US leadership focus, and cites Starlink's use in Iran amid Russian-technology jamming as an example of satellite connectivity's dual-use, defense-relevant value (e.g., backup GPS, electronic warfare/jamming resilience).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He mentions roughly 4 to 5 new space-focused ETFs are about to launch, drawing an analogy to the early days of crypto investing when the space was overlooked before becoming mainstream, and notes space stocks were among the top performers of 2025 and have continued into 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He draws analogies to Amazon (dismissed early for needing to 'sell every book on earth' before expanding into AWS) and Nvidia (graphics processors expanding into other applications) to argue AST is similarly expanding beyond its original commercial-broadband use case into detection/radar applications.

Watch Items4

  • Formal company PR and/or 8-K filing confirming the MDA SHIELD/Golden Dome award

    Expected 'tomorrow' per Anpanman, following the after-hours news Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Second Golden Dome-related award via the MDA 'Noble' program

    Uncertain — Anpanman guesses 'a few days, weeks' Anpanman 00:00:27
  • FM1 and FM2 satellite launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3

    Originally targeted for January; Anpanman believes it has slipped to likely February, possibly March Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Analyst rating/price-target revisions from Scotiabank, B. Riley, UBS, Barclays, Deutsche Bank, Roth Capital, Cantor and Clear Street in response to the Golden Dome news

    Not specified — expected in coming days/weeks Anpanman 00:00:27

Open Questions5

  • Will AST SpaceMobile issue an official PR or 8-K filing confirming the SHIELD/Golden Dome award, and when?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • When will the MDA 'Noble' program opportunity be decided, and how large could that second award be relative to today's SHIELD award?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will FM1/FM2 actually launch in February, or slip further into March, given New Glenn booster-refurbishment and prior government-requirement delays?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • How should investors quantify the value of AST's defense business, given that no one has built a rigorous valuation framework for the non-communications (radar, electronic warfare, PNT) use cases?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will 2026 second-half revenue land at the low end of the previously guided $50-75 million range given launch delays, or will new defense task orders push results higher?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
2026-01-12 51:14

Kook's Weekly - January 11

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' update (Jan 11, 2026), Kook works through a volatile week for ASTS.

He covers a Scotiabank downgrade that was quickly overwhelmed by a bullish Bank of America rebuttal, forensic speculation about what Bell Canada CEO Mirko Bibic actually signed during his Midland facility tour, and FM2's FCC launch authority clearing.

He ties in expanding global D2D mandates (UK, Australia, India), Nokia's tactical NTN hiring, SatCo's first commercial hire, and a PNT/electronic-warfare deep dive to argue ASTS should be valued as a scalable 'platform' rather than a niche point solution.

He closes by picking apart short-seller theses (Scotiabank, Anthony Bozza, 'Valuations') and warning new investors about the mechanics and dangers of leveraged ETFs like the double-long ASTX.

Key Takeaways

  • Scotiabank published a bearish downgrade/hit-piece on ASTS citing no retail customers yet, the challenge of orbiting 50 satellites, and evidence of slow user adoption in the US and Japan; Bank of America countered with a 'zoom out' note pointing to 2026 catalysts, and the market absorbed and quickly bought back the dip, which Kook reads as a sign of strong underlying investor conviction.
  • Kook analyzes AST SpaceMobile's press photo of Bell Canada CEO Mirko Bibic touring the Midland facility and signing hardware; because six or more satellites are likely in the clean room at any time under the current ~6-satellites/month production cadence and CEOs would not be allowed to sign satellites inside a clean room, Kook concludes Bibic likely signed a Batch 2 (or later) satellite rather than a Batch 1 unit, and separately speculates that AT&T's McElroy signed a Batch 1 satellite in an earlier facility-tour photo.
  • The FCC granted launch/operate authority for FM2 (the second Block 2 BlueBird), which Kook calls confirmation that the bears who doubted expedited FCC approval timelines were wrong; FM2 is now at the launch facility.
  • FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has publicly said the agency intends to clarify SCS (Supplemental Coverage from Space) rules so that 'billions of dollars of investment can move forward'; Kook notes ASTS doesn't need final SCS service-link approval yet but will need it within the next couple of months once satellites are deployed and unfurled.
  • Kook's own orbital-tracking ('birdwatching') of FM1 shows no evidence yet of antenna unfurling, but does show signs the satellite has achieved a more stable orbit and flight plan, which he interprets as evidence FM1 has finished or improved its detumbling process.
  • India is allocating 30 MHz of spectrum to enable vehicle-to-vehicle mesh connectivity for cars (e.g., advance warning of traffic jams), which Kook cites as a new government mandate expanding ASTS's total addressable market (TAM); separately, the UK Space Agency is seeking D2D solutions to supplement its emergency services network, following Australia's push to cover Outback dead zones.
  • Nokia posted five new job openings explicitly tied to an NTN (non-terrestrial network) cooperation project with ASTS SpaceMobile, described as delivering 'tactical' (not casual/consumer) defense solutions, which Kook cites as evidence telecom partners are building out dedicated internal teams to sell ASTS-based solutions.
  • Kook argues ASTS should be valued as a scalable 'platform' (like user-generated-content businesses, which can command 3x-10x higher multiples than point solutions) rather than a niche connectivity vendor, and cites SatCo's first hire — a commercial/sales lead, per contributor Peter Lindmark — as evidence the company is building out capacity-monetization infrastructure consistent with the platform thesis.
  • Kook contrasts GPS (low-power, one-way broadcast, easily jammed) with ASTS's signal, which he says can operate below the noise floor to avoid detection/jamming or can overpower other RF traffic to avoid being blocked, tying this to a Wall Street Journal article on electronic warfare and the EA-18G Growler's jamming role, and arguing US underinvestment in this area strengthens the case for satellite-based PNT and jam-resistant links.
  • Kook rebuts short seller 'Valuations' (a Substack writer) by noting that several of the short thesis's stated 'upside risks' — AT&T offering FirstNet beta service in H1 2026, successful satellite launches, and a SpaceX IPO potentially near $1.5 trillion creating sector FOMO — are actually the Space Mob's base case, and separately recalls that a prior short thesis (Kerrisdale) was factually wrong about ASTS using gallium arsenide solar panels, which he cites as evidence that short sellers have previously misunderstood the technology (even though the stock still fell 90% at one point despite that error).
  • Kook warns new investors against holding leveraged ETFs like the double-long ASTX for the long term, explaining that daily rebalancing to maintain tracking error causes these funds to 'buy high and sell low' (gamma burn/volatility decay), such that someone who bought ASTX the last time the underlying stock hit $100 would be down roughly 30% due to decay alone, even though the vehicles can outperform in a straight-up, low-volatility rally.
  • Kook discusses EBIT versus EBITDA for ASTS, arguing EBITDA is misleading here because satellites have real economic depreciation (they deorbit and must be replaced), and that flying at a higher altitude (670 km) versus SpaceX's lower altitude gives ASTS a more capital-efficient, slower satellite-replacement (depreciation) profile, which he believes the market will eventually reward with a higher multiple via free-cash-flow conversion.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Market action: Scotiabank downgrade vs. Bank of America rebuttal

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Last week was volatile without much real news: it started with a rally ('ripathon'), then Scotiabank came out with what Kook calls a 'firefighting' downgrade/hit-piece trying to put out the rally, and Bank of America then 'mobbed' Scotiabank's take with a supportive note.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Reading the Scotiabank report directly, Kook paraphrases its key points: ASTS has 'without yet a single retail customer,' faces 'the challenge of orbiting 50 satellites,' and there is 'evidence of slow user adoption in the US and Japan'; the report also states the analyst 'cannot remember a single time when the company got timing right' on guidance.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook expected the stock to correct for a week or two given how much options-driven 'heat' had built up, but was surprised at how quickly the decline was bought back up after Bank of America's note reminded investors to 'zoom out': 2026 features a likely SpaceX IPO, regulatory changes, ramping services, and increasing federal/defense support for space technology.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook believes ASTS's guidance/timing disclosure practices (i.e., the company being vague about exact launch timing) will likely change in the next 3 to 6 months as more milestones 'shake down.'

Production and testing: the Bell Canada facility-tour clue

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    AST SpaceMobile released a hype video previewing 2026 but did not include the Batch 1 delivery announcement Kook is waiting for, which he calls 'the big one.'

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Scott Wisniewski presented at CES; Kook says Scott reliably describes what the company will do but not the specific week, month, or sometimes even year a satellite will launch, and recommends listening directly to Scott's presentation rather than relying on private company conversations, which Kook says create a false sense of insider knowledge.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:28

    AST SpaceMobile released a press photo/announcement of Bell Canada CEO Mirko Bibic and his team touring the Midland facility 'for a closer look at the technology behind the Bluebird program,' notably showing him signing something rather than being announced as visiting a specific satellite.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Based on prior disclosure changes (the company added 'testing' language to its production-cadence updates, detailing arrays and satellites in construction), Kook estimates the production funnel is moving roughly 6 units per month, which implies 1 to 6+ satellites are likely in the clean room at any given time; since a CEO would not be allowed to sign a satellite inside a clean-room environment, Kook concludes Bibic likely did not sign a Batch 1 satellite.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook's conclusion: the implication is that Bibic signed something from Batch 2 or beyond, not Batch 1, since worst-case (Batch 1 far from done) would contradict prior company disclosures and common sense; he separately guesses that AT&T's McElroy signed a Batch 1 satellite in an earlier similar facility-tour photo, since AT&T should logically sign the first batch of commercial satellites.

Regulatory and orbit updates

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    FM2 was granted FCC launch/operate authority and is now sitting at the launch facility; Kook says this proves wrong the bears who argued the volume of satellite design changes made expedited FCC approval impossible.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:08:22

    Gateways are being signed both domestically and abroad, and FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has spoken about clarifying SCS rules so that 'billions of dollars of investment can move forward'; Kook says ASTS doesn't need SES/SCS service-link approval yet, but will need the broader regulatory cover 'in the next couple months' once satellites are deployed and unfurled and the network needs to scale beyond STAs/testing.

  • Kook Untagged 00:08:22

    In the FCC docket, SpaceX has been filing comment letters contesting the license modification; Kook characterizes this as ongoing 'lawfare'/typical legal wrangling near the end of the comment process, with contributor Katzi tracking the filings closely.

  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook restarted his independent orbital-tracking ('birdwatching') of FM1 using data separate from contributor Katzi's; he sees no evidence yet of FM1's antenna unfurling, but does see evidence of a more stable orbit and flight plan, suggesting FM1 has likely finished or improved its detumbling process.

Partner financing and global TAM-expanding mandates

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  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Saudi Telecom (stc) raised a large sukuk (Sharia-compliant bond financing); Kook hasn't seen a press release confirming that money has hit ASTS's account and doesn't expect one, but says tracking partner financings can offer clues about their ability to meet contractual obligations, and he'd feel relatively comfortable about Saudi credit exposure specifically.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    Following Australia's push to cover Outback dead zones, the UK Space Agency is now seeking D2D solutions to supplement its emergency services network; Kook frames these government initiatives as accelerating adoption of technology that would likely have happened anyway, first solving coverage gaps and then adding redundancy for disaster events.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    India is allocating 30 megahertz of spectrum to enable a vehicle-to-vehicle mesh communication mandate for cars (e.g., advance warning of traffic jams ahead), which Kook flags as a new and TAM-expanding government mandate he'd only just learned of via a follower's tip.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    Nokia posted five new job openings explicitly referencing an NTN (non-terrestrial network) cooperation project with 'ASTS SpaceMobile,' describing 'end-to-end customized tactical solutions' (not casual/consumer) for its defense portfolio customers.

The 'platform' valuation thesis and SatCo

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  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook argues ASTS should be valued as a scalable 'platform' rather than a niche point solution; platforms can command 3x-10x higher valuation multiples because usage/value propagates via other companies' and individuals' creativity, capital, and sales efforts rather than the platform owner's own resources.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    Contributor Peter Lindmark reported that SatCo made its first hire — a commercial/sales lead — which Kook cites as direct evidence supporting the platform-monetization thesis: SatCo will help oversell/maximize capacity utilization since satellite coverage is never used at 100% concurrency by any single region's subscribers.

  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook expects consumer use cases (e.g., India's car mesh use case, recreational use, IoT) to expand dramatically once ASTS opens its platform to third-party-driven use cases, similar to how military use cases are already emerging.

PNT (position, navigation, timing) and electronic warfare

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  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook, citing contributor Socrates's technical work (part of Kook's pinned-tweet DD), contrasts GPS — a low-power, one-way broadcast that is fragile and easy to jam, as seen in recent war theaters — with ASTS's signal, which he says can either operate under the noise floor (unjammable/undetectable) or be powerful enough to overwhelm other RF traffic and avoid being blocked.

  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook references a Wall Street Journal article on electronic warfare highlighting the EA-18G Growler jamming aircraft's role in recent military raids and raising the question of whether the US is underinvesting in electronic-warfare technology because it's 'not as sexy'; he believes the US military will increase investment in this area, strengthening the case for ASTS's jam-resistant, satellite-based PNT capability.

History, first principles, and pricing/ARPU economics

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  • Kook Untagged 00:23:57

    Kook highlights a 2022 tweet/sketch series by contributor Katzi (an early technical explainer of ASTS's mechanical physics) and credits Katzi and software engineer/AI-chip expert Steve Larison — who explained Doppler compensation and core-network integration — with together enabling early conviction, including his and Anpanman's, in the technology.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook endorses Katzi's 'first principles' framework for evaluating ASTS: understanding whether the company is the low-cost/most-efficient user of spectrum for MNOs, since being the most efficient and scalable deployment of spectrum should, over time, lead to good outcomes even if the specific catalysts can't be predicted in advance.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    On pricing/ARPU: Kook argues that even if satellite connectivity were nominally 'free' to consumers (as some initially thought SpaceX's offering would be), MNOs still effectively pay for it because reduced customer churn has real economic value — avoiding customer acquisition cost (CAC), which he illustrates via AT&T's expensive NFL ad spend offering free phones to switch carriers; a contributor ('at Keys Minnesota') wrote up the various avoided MNO costs (CapEx efficiencies, etc.) that could support MNOs paying ASTS billions per year.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:23:57

    Kook frames the core of the bear case as skepticism that enough consumers will pay for the service or that the addressable base is large enough (attachment rates and ARPU); he says he believes the evidence points to large attachment rates and use cases (communication and non-communication), but acknowledges this is genuinely debatable and different investors can reasonably land on different sides.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook argues the 'first three legs' of ASTS bear risk — technology, financing, and regulatory — are now largely resolved (reflected in a ~$100 stock price), and that the next leg of scrutiny will be execution and whether the commercial model actually delivers, which is why short-seller focus and volume will increasingly shift there.

SpaceX comparison: altitude economics, EBIT/EBITDA, and market cap

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  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook explains why he reconciles his financial models to EBIT rather than EBITDA for ASTS: satellites experience real economic depreciation because they deorbit and must be replaced, unlike non-depreciating assets (e.g., land), so EBIT properly captures the ongoing capital cost of maintaining the constellation, and he tracks this via an independent depreciation build in his model.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    ASTS is able to fly its satellites at 670 kilometers because its high signal power allows it to close the link budget from higher altitude, whereas SpaceX must fly lower, causing its satellites to deorbit (and need replacement) at a nonlinearly faster rate, meaning more 'dollars in orbit' burn up faster; Kook believes the market will eventually reward the more capital-efficient company (ASTS) with a higher multiple via free-cash-flow conversion.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook cites a tweet from Peter Adderton (an MNO CEO) noting SpaceX's implied market cap exceeds the combined market cap of the world's largest MNO carriers; Kook says this doesn't have to be 'wrong' since a disruptive new business model (he compares it to Apple in phone hardware) can be worth more than the legacy, high-CapEx, price-competitive businesses it depends on, and says he'd prefer a publicly traded SpaceX for price transparency.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:23:57

    ASTS filed for S-band access internationally, which Kook connects to the prior Inmarsat/Ligado bankruptcy adversary proceeding; he says this shows ASTS 'showing its hand' to Inmarsat (owned by Viasat) that it intends to pursue global S-band and L-band spectrum acquisition.

The bear cave: engaging short sellers

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  • Kook Rumor 00:47:13

    Kook is trying to get more short sellers to publicly engage and explain their reasoning; he references a prior instance where a well-known short seller ('Anthony Bozza') was rumored to be short ASTS via a conference tweet, causing concern, but says the key is getting shorts to actually explain what they see that bulls don't.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook read and enjoyed (found well-written, with some humor) a Substack short thesis by a writer going by 'Valuations,' but critiques it as being partly driven by behavioral pattern-recognition (treating high retail community activity/'Space Mob' as a red flag) and notes the author concedes he doesn't fully understand the underlying technology.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook recalls that a prior short thesis (from Kerrisdale, referenced as 'Caristel') was factually wrong in claiming ASTS used expensive gallium arsenide solar panels as part of an economics argument against the company, which Kook says was evidence the short seller didn't understand the technology — though he notes the stock still fell about 90% at one point despite that error, so being technically wrong didn't stop the short thesis from working short-term.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook points out that several of 'Valuations’' stated upside risks to the short thesis are effectively the Space Mob's base case: AT&T offering FirstNet beta service in the first half of 2026 (already announced), successful satellite launches, and a SpaceX IPO potentially near $1.5 trillion creating increased sector FOMO.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook mentions the Space Mob has produced a 'vibe-coded' valuation model that Anpanman spent significant time checking (Kook has not reviewed it himself), and notes trader Kevin Mack has reportedly capitulated to a bullish view with a $1,000 price target, while cautioning that Kevin Mack's specific risk framework/regime changes frequently.

Investor warning: leveraged ETF mechanics

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  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook warns new investors against holding leveraged ETFs like the 2x-long ASTX for long-term positions: because these funds rebalance daily to maintain their tracking ratio (buying more when the stock rises, selling when it falls), the mechanism effectively 'buys high and sells low,' causing underperformance (gamma burn/volatility decay) in almost any scenario except a straight, low-volatility uptrend.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:47:13

    As an example, Kook cites a tweet showing that an investor who bought ASTX the last time the underlying ASTS stock peaked near $100 would be down roughly 30% today due to gamma burn/decay alone, separate from the underlying stock's own price action.

Watch Items6

  • Batch 1 BlueBird satellite delivery announcement

    Not yet given; Kook calls it 'the big one' he's still waiting for Kook 00:00:28
  • SCS/service-link regulatory approval needed once satellites are deployed and unfurled

    Within the next couple of months Kook 00:08:22
  • Possible change to ASTS's guidance/timing disclosure practices

    Next 3 to 6 months Kook 00:00:28
  • AT&T FirstNet beta service launch

    First half of 2026 (already announced per Kook) Kook 00:47:13
  • Potential SpaceX IPO

    2026, potentially valued near $1.5 trillion Kook 00:47:13
  • Possible live debate/Spaces between Kook and short seller 'Valuations'

    This week or sometime soon (unconfirmed) Kook 00:47:13

Open Questions5

  • What exactly did Bell Canada CEO Mirko Bibic sign during his Midland facility tour — a Batch 2 (or later) satellite, or something else entirely?

    Kook 00:00:28
  • Did AT&T's McElroy actually sign a Batch 1 BlueBird satellite in an earlier facility-tour photo, as Kook speculates?

    Kook 00:00:28
  • Will short seller 'Valuations' (or other shorts, e.g. Anthony Bozza) actually engage in a public debate/Spaces to explain their thesis?

    Kook 00:47:13
  • How large will consumer attachment rates and willingness-to-pay ultimately be for satellite direct-to-device service, and how much of that value will accrue to MNOs versus ASTS?

    Kook 00:23:57
  • Whether ASTS's TAM will be validated as broad/dynamic (platform case) versus a niche point solution (bear case), which Kook frames as the key determinant of whether a ~$40 billion valuation is too high, too low, or roughly fair.

    Kook 00:08:22
2026-01-08 41:42

Scott Wisniewski at CES 2026 - Satellite meet smartphone the new era of connectivity

Scott Wisniewski · Barbie · Amy Mehlman · Kevin Cohen · Susie McBride · Samantha

This is a special crossover episode of the AST SpaceMobile Podcast: a CES 2026 'Space Track' industry panel moderated by Samantha of NovaSpace, featuring executives from five satellite operators.

They are Globalstar (Barbie), Lynk (Amy Mehlman), Viasat (Kevin Cohen), Iridium (Susie McBride), and AST SpaceMobile (Scott Wisniewski). Neither regular host Anpanman nor Kook is present.

The panel reviews how 2025 shifted direct-to-device (D2D) from pilots to early commercialization. It also covers each company's partnerships/M&A (Viasat-Space42's Equitas JV, AST-Vodafone's SatCo JV, Lynk's Omnispace merger, Globalstar-Apple), spectrum and regulatory bottlenecks, device/chipset readiness, and paths to profitability.

The headline conclusion, echoed by nearly every panelist, is that D2D will be a multi-operator market rather than winner-take-all despite Starlink's head start. Scott Wisniewski positions AST's broadband-first, vertically integrated, MNO-exclusive strategy as AST's key differentiator heading into 2026, backed by over $3 billion in cash and liquidity, ~100 satellites planned, and over $1 billion in cumulative committed revenue.

Key Takeaways

  • This episode is a CES 2026 industry panel moderated by Samantha of NovaSpace featuring five satellite operator executives (Globalstar, Lynk, Viasat, Iridium, AST SpaceMobile); neither regular AST SpaceMobile Podcast host Anpanman nor Kook appears in this episode.
  • AST SpaceMobile President Scott Wisniewski said that as of Christmas Eve 2025, AST was flying 6 satellites in orbit, which he described as the 6 largest satellites ever commercially launched into low Earth orbit.
  • Scott Wisniewski said AST partners with over 50 mobile network operators worldwide covering nearly 3 billion subscribers, and in 2025 the company raised over $3 billion to fund approximately 100 satellites in its constellation.
  • Scott Wisniewski disclosed that AST's Vodafone joint venture 'SatCo' has signed initial MOUs with 21 European Union member states as it works to expand AST's distribution reach beyond Vodafone's own European footprint.
  • Scott Wisniewski stated AST has over $1 billion of cumulative committed revenue signed to date from its mobile network operator partners, part of what he called mutually exclusive, long-term contracts.
  • AST's 2026 priority, per Scott Wisniewski, is moving from roughly 30-60 minutes of daily satellite coverage uptime to full 24-hour uptime as more satellites reach orbit.
  • Scott Wisniewski said AST is targeting over 100 MHz of MSS spectrum and up to 1,000 MHz of cellular spectrum globally, using AT&T's and Verizon's jointly contributed 850 MHz spectrum plus 700 MHz FirstNet/AT&T spectrum in the US.
  • Viasat and Space42 are building the 'Equitas' joint venture, a LEO 'space tower' constellation designed to let multiple spectrum holders share funding; Viasat's Kevin Cohen said launch is expected in the 2028-2029 timeframe with more announcements coming in the following months.
  • Iridium's Susie McBride said 2026 is Iridium's 'big year' for its NTN Direct launch, which will start with messaging services before expanding, citing the industry's late-1990s history of overpromising as a reason for a cautious rollout.
  • Every panelist who addressed the competitive question — including Amy Mehlman of Lynk, Kevin Cohen of Viasat, Susie McBride of Iridium, and Scott Wisniewski of AST — agreed the D2D market will support multiple operators rather than a single winner, despite Starlink's head start, because no single operator has enough spectrum/capacity to serve every use case and vertical.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

Panel introductions and the 2025 shift in D2D

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  • Samantha Untagged 00:00:06

    Framed the panel around how 2025 saw the D2D industry shift from pilot programs and beta testing to early commercialization of services, and invited each panelist to introduce themselves and their company's 2025 highlights.

  • Barbie Company Guidance 00:01:13

    Globalstar is a mobile satellite services company that has provided MSS globally for well over 25 years and has supported real direct-to-device connectivity for over 3 years; Globalstar connectivity is now in the hands of over half a billion consumer devices worldwide.

  • Amy Mehlman Company Guidance 00:01:43

    Amy Mehlman is Executive Vice President and Chief Global Affairs Officer at Lynk. Lynk came up with the direct-to-device 'cell tower in space' concept about 7-8 years ago and was the first company anywhere to obtain a direct-to-device license.

  • Kevin Cohen Company Guidance 00:02:48

    Kevin Cohen leads business development and partnerships at Viasat. Through its acquisition of Inmarsat (transcribed as 'MRSAT') a few years ago, Viasat gained global coverage via geostationary satellites and the largest spectrum portfolio globally; those GEO satellites have offered safety-of-flight and maritime safety service for 20-plus years.

  • Kevin Cohen Confirmed 00:02:48

    With 3GPP Release 17, Viasat's spectrum is now supporting commercially available devices — Pixel and Samsung S25 devices offer satellite SMS with Verizon when out of coverage, automotive satellite features are coming, and the Qualcomm CES booth is demonstrating live voice calls over Viasat's GEO satellites.

  • Susie McBride Company Guidance 00:04:00

    Susie McBride is Chief Operations Officer at Iridium, a mobile satellite service provider with over 25 years of pole-to-pole global coverage focused on safety services and IoT across aviation, maritime, and personal communications; Iridium has been moving into standards (narrowband IoT) to support unmodified chipsets.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:04:42

    Scott Wisniewski is president of AST SpaceMobile, which is building a purpose-built broadband direct-to-device constellation and has been doing so for close to a decade; the strategy is to partner directly with operators — over 50 of them worldwide, covering nearly 3 billion subscribers.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:04:42

    As of Christmas Eve (December 24, 2025), AST is flying 6 satellites in orbit, which he described as the 6 largest satellites ever commercially launched into low Earth orbit.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:04:42

    2025 recap: AST started the year with a long-term rights acquisition of L-band spectrum in January, raised over $3 billion over the course of the year to fund approximately 100 satellites in its constellation, and advanced partnership agreements including Verizon in the US, Vodafone in Europe, and Bell in Canada.

Partnerships and M&A shaping the D2D landscape

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  • Kevin Cohen Company Guidance 00:06:42

    Viasat's Equitas joint venture with Space42 (moderator's question referenced 'Space42'; Kevin's spoken answer was transcribed as 'Space Forward 2') uses a 'space tower' approach — bringing satellites closer to Earth to reuse spectrum more efficiently and letting multiple spectrum holders share the funding rather than one operator funding the whole constellation; additional announcements are expected in the next few months, with launch expected in the 2028-2029 timeframe, backed by Viasat's existing GEO fleet.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:08:04

    AST's model is to go exclusively to market with a mobile network operator, typically as an add-on with a 50/50 revenue share; this has enabled early investment from Vodafone, AT&T, Verizon, Google, Bell Canada, and Rakuten, plus a 10-year agreement signed this year with stc in Saudi Arabia covering the MENA region.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:08:04

    Vodafone has invested in AST three times and has been a very early supporter; about a year ago AST and Vodafone decided to form a joint venture (SatCo) as a European distribution entity, allowing AST to expand beyond core markets like the UK, Germany, Spain and France and across the whole EU; to date, 21 EU member states have signed initial MOUs under this structure.

  • Amy Mehlman Company Guidance 00:09:22

    Lynk still works closely with roughly 52 MNO partners, but its planned merger with Omnispace brings 2 GHz MSS spectrum into the mix, which the panel expects will be blended with MNO spectrum to provide seamless connectivity and more advanced services.

  • Amy Mehlman Company Guidance 00:09:22

    Lynk also has a key strategic partnership with SES, using SES's infrastructure to build more efficiently and pass lower costs onto consumers; MNOs act as Lynk's sales force.

  • Susie McBride Company Guidance 00:11:11

    Iridium's most influential recent partnerships include newly announced deals with Vodafone and Deutsche Telekom; about 2 years ago Iridium switched from proprietary technology to GSM/3GPP standards, and has recently been testing mobile-originated messages using Nordic chipsets, plus using Syniverse for roaming connectivity with major MNOs.

  • Barbie Confirmed 00:12:38

    Globalstar's partnership with Apple began a few years ago; the breakthrough was announced in September 2022 and commercial service started in November 2022. Barbie noted she was using both an iPhone and an Apple Watch on stage, both connecting directly to Globalstar's satellite system.

Service capabilities and the path to broadband

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  • Barbie Company Guidance 00:14:37

    Globalstar's Spot product line, in service since 2007, has been responsible for over 10,000 rescues; Globalstar is replenishing its existing constellation under a new 15-year FCC license and is separately building its third-generation 'C3' system, including roughly 90 new ground station antennas being installed across approximately 25 countries (about 35 sites) ahead of launching C3 satellites.

  • Susie McBride Company Guidance 00:16:46

    Iridium's NTN Direct expansion targets both existing customers and new use cases; she cited an example of Brazilian farming customers wanting a chipset that can roam between cellular and satellite because cell networks in fixed farm locations weren't reliable enough. Iridium's go-to-market is through MNOs plus direct relationships with global/mobile solution partners.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:18:40

    AST's strategy from the start has been very large satellites for big throughput, acquiring both cellular and MSS spectrum, and partnering with operators so the phone 'just works'; AST is targeting over 100 MHz of MSS spectrum globally and up to 1,000 MHz of cellular spectrum globally.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:18:40

    AST's Nokia partnership from about 5 years ago helped it integrate early with 3GPP standards rather than waiting for them; since 2023, whenever a satellite is overhead, AST can deliver cellular broadband and video calls on the phone. The 2026 goal is to move from roughly 30-60 minutes of daily satellite uptime to full 24-hour uptime.

  • Amy Mehlman Company Guidance 00:20:19

    Lynk's near-term focus is connecting the entire device ecosystem, including legacy 2G/3G/4G phones that people can't necessarily afford to replace, while also building out additional MSS-based capacity over the next couple of years.

Device and chipset readiness

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  • Kevin Cohen Speculation 00:22:10

    Device availability for MSS spectrum today is limited because satellite capabilities are still limited; as near-broadband service arrives, OEMs are expected to move beyond flagship devices (Samsung, Pixel, Apple with proprietary waveforms) toward embedding satellite connectivity in smartwatches, phones and IoT devices broadly. He estimated that by 'the early 2030s, mid-2035s' nearly every device will be able to talk to both cellular and satellite, opening a massive market opportunity.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:23:21

    AST is building a low-band constellation first so its satellites can switch between the major low-band frequencies already used in today's phones. In the US, AT&T and Verizon jointly contribute 850 MHz spectrum to AST's network, plus 700 MHz FirstNet/AT&T spectrum; globally AST can use many different low-band frequencies already on phones, with MSS spectrum acquired throughout 2025 supplementing coverage over time.

Spectrum and regulatory bottlenecks

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  • Susie McBride Speculation 00:24:29

    Iridium sees fewer regulatory challenges for itself because it already holds its own spectrum, but expects more challenges for others going forward, especially ensuring global rights work consistently as the world becomes more nationalized and less willing to share spectrum.

  • Kevin Cohen Speculation 00:24:29

    Regulators may see D2D as an opportunity to impose additional requirements once they realize every device — not just a few hundred thousand — could connect via satellite; this isn't currently a blocker in the US or Europe, but could become one for achieving full global coverage.

  • Amy Mehlman Speculation 00:25:46

    There is a lag in many countries in establishing the regulatory/licensing framework needed for stable D2D operations; Europe and the US are ahead, and some countries informally approve service without a full framework, but building proper frameworks everywhere takes time, and 'time is money and time is service to customers.'

  • Barbie Company Guidance 00:26:45

    Spectrum is the industry's 'lifeblood' — Globalstar has operated on the same few megahertz of spectrum for over two decades and plans to continue doing so; this requires strong regulator relationships globally, billions of dollars of investment, and regulatory certainty to eventually recoup investment and fund next-generation constellations.

1-2 year outlook per company

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  • Kevin Cohen Company Guidance 00:28:34

    Viasat already offers NB-IoT service in certain geographic markets and expects to expand it; growth will extend beyond handsets into verticals like cockpit and maritime communications, with the LEO constellation buildout allowing continuous service quality improvement as more satellites and orbital planes are added.

  • Amy Mehlman Company Guidance 00:29:30

    The combined Lynk-Omnispace-SES venture will evolve over the next 2-3 years, starting with lighter services before reaching a full complement of satellites for seamless connectivity, aided by SES's multi-orbit infrastructure.

  • Barbie Company Guidance 00:30:17

    Globalstar is already supporting substantial D2D connectivity today, and capabilities will continue to improve with the investments and plans the company has announced.

  • Susie McBride Company Guidance 00:30:28

    2026 is Iridium's 'big year' for the NTN Direct launch, with many more announcements expected; the service will start slowly with messaging, echoing lessons from the industry overpromising and underdelivering in the late 1990s, given real physics constraints on satellite signal penetration.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:31:32

    AST has been assembling the 'ingredients' of capital, spectrum, network, customers, and production capability; AST has over $3 billion of cash and liquidity to build the roughly 100 satellites it needs over the next 1-2 years, has partnerships to address the consumer market and adjacent verticals, and is close to enabling ground infrastructure to integrate additional satellites as they reach orbit — with all these pieces 'coming together in 2026 in a very meaningful way.'

Path to profitability and unit economics

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  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:32:57

    The key unlock is access to the 6 billion phones in the world through MNOs with hundreds of millions of subscribers each, delivered in a low-friction way; demand signals from AST's own market surveys and those of its 50-plus MNO partners indicate strong demand. Scott believes the market will be worth 'tens of billions of dollars,' and AST's flow-through margins will be strong once satellites are in orbit supporting the fixed cost base, even if actual demand turns out to be a fraction of AST's expectation.

  • Amy Mehlman Speculation 00:34:08

    Over the last year, MNOs have shifted from viewing D2D as 'a cool marketing tool' to treating it as a critical, must-have piece of infrastructure (e.g., ensuring access to 911/eCall if terrestrial service fails); Amy called this shift the most leading indicator that the business will be successful.

  • Kevin Cohen Speculation 00:34:56

    Viasat already runs multiple large, profitable businesses on far less bandwidth than what's coming; offering 1,000 times more capacity without giving a 1,000x discount presents a major opportunity as new MNO, automotive, and IoT partnerships come online and connections grow.

Competitive landscape: multi-operator market versus Starlink

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  • Barbie Company Guidance 00:36:13

    Globalstar is in an 'enviable position' because a substantial portion of capacity on its current system and its planned next-generation system is already committed; Globalstar plans to keep providing a basic level of globally competitive connectivity at a competitive price point.

  • Amy Mehlman Speculation 00:36:46

    Despite Starlink's head start, Amy Mehlman believes there is room for multiple players given global demand, and doesn't expect the market to become a monopoly; competition is needed for the market to grow and offer innovative services, and regulators recognize this too.

  • Kevin Cohen Speculation 00:37:40

    There won't be a winner-take-all outcome because no single operator has enough spectrum/capacity to serve every vertical that will require bandwidth (citing AI and autonomous vehicles as coming demand drivers); in in-flight connectivity specifically, Viasat took market share from a prior competitor (Gogo) and has retained a large position even as new entrants arrived, due to airline/consumer choice dynamics.

  • Susie McBride Company Guidance 00:38:39

    MNOs want multiple satellite options and multiple companies to choose from. For Iridium, D2D is just one slice of a broader existing business with existing free cash flow, so its required investment return differs from a pure greenfield operator; global, truly worldwide spectrum access remains the most critical differentiator, especially for connectivity to things that move.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:39:35

    Drawing an analogy to his earlier career in data centers and towers (digital infrastructure with multiple co-existing operators), Scott said D2D will be a multi-operator landscape since every cellular market has 3-4 operators with different spectrum and requirements. AST's differentiation is a broadband-first, purpose-built direct-to-device constellation rather than an add-on to a fixed broadband business, mutually exclusive long-term MNO contracts, over $1 billion of cumulative committed revenue signed to date, vertical integration in production, public-company access to capital markets, and access to both cellular and MSS spectrum as of 2025.

Watch Items6

  • AST SpaceMobile targeting a move from roughly 30-60 minutes of daily satellite coverage uptime to full 24-hour uptime as more satellites reach orbit

    During 2026 Scott Wisniewski 00:18:40
  • AST SpaceMobile completing its planned ~100-satellite constellation, funded by over $3 billion in cash and liquidity raised in 2025

    Over the next 1-2 years (from Jan 2026) Scott Wisniewski 00:31:32
  • Viasat/Space42 'Equitas' LEO constellation launch, with additional program announcements expected in the coming months

    Launch expected 2028-2029; announcements in 'the next few months' Kevin Cohen 00:06:42
  • Iridium's NTN Direct commercial launch, beginning with messaging services before expanding capabilities

    2026 ('our big year') Susie McBride 00:30:28
  • Combined Lynk-Omnispace-SES venture evolving from lighter services toward full seamless connectivity

    Next 2-3 years (from Jan 2026) Amy Mehlman 00:29:30
  • Globalstar launching its third-generation 'C3' satellites after completing ~90 new ground station antennas across ~25 countries

    Not specified beyond 'in the not-too-distant future' Barbie 00:14:37

Open Questions4

  • What leading indicator will confirm that D2D unit economics and profitability are becoming real for greenfield satellite constellations?

    Samantha 00:32:27
  • What additional regulatory requirements might emerge as D2D scales from a few hundred thousand connected devices per country to potentially every device being satellite-capable?

    Kevin Cohen 00:24:29
  • How quickly will lagging countries establish stable regulatory/licensing frameworks needed for D2D service, given that building such frameworks takes significant time?

    Amy Mehlman 00:25:46
  • Will the D2D market end up structurally multi-operator or will Starlink's early lead let it dominate the space?

    Samantha 00:35:51
2026-01-08 1:10:45

Anpanman - Let's discuss Scotia's downgrade, which was basically spoon fed by HF short clients

Anpanman

In a solo, impromptu episode recorded from his car, Anpanman delivers a point-by-point rebuttal of Scotiabank analyst Andres Coello's overnight downgrade of AST SpaceMobile from Buy/Neutral to Sell with a $45-55 fair value estimate.

Anpanman argues the downgrade was 'spoon-fed' by short sellers who got crushed on ASTS shorts in 2025-2026. He walks through Wall Street sell-side research dynamics — commissions, prime-brokerage pressure, banking relationships — and rebuts the report's Starlink-vs-AST comparisons, brand-recognition argument, and Mexico/UK/Japan competitive claims as apples-to-oranges.

His headline conclusion: the report's own DCF model projects $17.8 billion of free cash flow by 2032 even while arguing the stock is overvalued today.

With imminent Block 2 BlueBird launches and potential military contracts on the horizon, he believes shorts are about to enter a 'meat grinder.'

Key Takeaways

  • Scotiabank analyst Andres Coello downgraded AST SpaceMobile (ASTS) to Sell, setting a fair value of roughly $45-55 per share, reversing a bullish stance where he previously held the highest price target on the Street.
  • Anpanman argues the downgrade was likely influenced ('spoon-fed') by short sellers and hedge fund clients paying Scotiabank trading commissions, describing a Wall Street dynamic where large institutional clients can pressure sell-side analysts via prime brokerage and trading relationships.
  • Anpanman disputes the report's central comparison of Starlink's fixed-wireless broadband success and brand recognition to AST's direct-to-cell business, calling it an apples-to-oranges comparison since AST operates as a wholesale infrastructure partner to MNOs (AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone, Rakuten) rather than a consumer-facing brand needing marketing spend.
  • Despite downgrading the stock, Scotiabank's own model reportedly projects free cash flow growing from about $1.5 billion in 2027 to $3.5 billion in 2028, $6.1 billion in 2029, $11.6 billion in 2030, and $17.8 billion by 2032 — a contradiction Anpanman highlights as evidence the 'Sell' rating doesn't match the firm's own long-term numbers.
  • The report reportedly does not acknowledge two major recent wins for AST: the definitive commercial agreement with Verizon and the Saudi Telecom Company (stc) deal, which Anpanman describes as roughly $1.8 billion over 10 years with a $175 million prepayment.
  • Anpanman contends AST is testing service with Mexico's government-owned wholesale carrier Altán (holder of 700 MHz nationwide spectrum), which the Scotia report omits while instead flagging a rumored Starlink deal with a Mexican carrier as a competitive threat.
  • Anpanman expects near-term launch activity: FM2/BlueBird 7 (an SDA Halo-related satellite) likely launching on Blue Origin's New Glenn around early February, and two additional batches of Block 2 BlueBirds on Falcon 9 in early and late February, which he frames as the start of a 'meat grinder' period for short sellers.

Detailed Discussion7 topics

Scotiabank downgrade and sell-side research dynamics

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Scotiabank downgraded ASTS overnight from a valuation perspective; the analyst is Andres Coello (transcribed as 'Andres'/'Coelho'), who Anpanman says started covering AST tangentially around 2021-2022 as a LATAM telecom-tower analyst before formally initiating coverage.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Sell-side research functions partly as a tool to generate trading commissions from institutional clients; analysts build reputations and institutional clients pay via 'hard dollars or soft dollars,' usually commissions directed to the bank for the analyst's insight.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Analysts balance research independence against investment-banking relationships (future convertible bond, equity, or debt underwriting fees) and against pressure from big trading/prime-brokerage clients; Anpanman describes this as a 'dirty secret' where a fund's director of research can face pressure to reevaluate a stock view if a large hedge fund client is unhappy.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Scotiabank participated as a co-manager (not lead/book-runner) on some of AST's financings and ATM offerings.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Coello's tone shifted abruptly over the summer (around June): he went from Buy to Sell as the stock performed well, then to Underweight after a pullback ('valuation cooled off'), and has now gone back to Sell.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:25

    Anpanman says he heard from people who've spoken with Coello that his change in tone was essentially overnight, coinciding with what Anpanman believes was outreach from short sellers and/or SpaceX private shareholders who use ASTS and Rocket Lab as sector-hedge shorts.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:25

    A SpaceMob member who still works at a hedge fund told Anpanman that a fund is short ASTS 'in size,' suffered a huge negative impact in 2025 as the stock ran from about $20 to $100, and that 2026 has been 'a nightmare' for the position; the fund's thesis is characterized as 'Starlink's going to crush these guys.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman argues the timing of the downgrade — right before what he expects to be positive catalysts — helped bail out short sellers and gave them a 'day or two' of reprieve, since analyst ratings affect algos, sentiment, and momentum trading even if fundamentals-focused investors dismiss them.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman personally monetized more than half of his ASTS call options the day before the downgrade (taking profits) and used the dip from today's downgrade to reload some of that risk back into the stock.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    A short-seller account referred to as 'Federal Capital' (described as 'the ultimate inverse') posted the Scotia report and highlighted it without commentary.

Starlink vs. AST SpaceMobile technical comparison

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Starlink's direct-to-cell service has about 650 satellites in orbit and is, in Anpanman's characterization, a 'minimum viable product' limited to texting and some data/messaging via dumbed-down apps — it cannot do voice over LTE and is not full broadband, unlike AST's planned service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Starlink direct-to-cell satellites originally were designed to fly around 550 km but had to be lowered to roughly 350 km to make the link budget work for phone communication, and Starlink is now lowering fixed-wireless satellite orbits too, which Anpanman says increases deorbit/burn-up frequency (raising more launch cadence for SpaceX).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The Scotia report claims AST needs duplicate satellites for new frequencies (i.e., can't serve low-band and mid-band from the same satellite); Anpanman confirms this is true — AST will fly two shells, one low-band and one mid-band — and is surprised the analyst treats it as a new/negative revelation.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Starlink's V3 satellites (per SpaceX's own annual report) are claimed to feature custom SpaceX silicon, phased arrays sized 5x5 meters (up from 2.5x2.5 meters currently), thousands of spatial beams, 20x higher per-satellite throughput, 100x more system capacity, operation at 360 km altitude, a laser mesh network of 9,000 satellites, and a regenerative architecture — but Anpanman notes the custom silicon (ASIC) reportedly won't be ready until 2027-2028, and V3 depends on Starship reaching commercial launch cadence, which is not yet viable.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman notes AST spent about 5 years developing and taping out its own AST5000 ASIC, and argues ASIC development generally takes 3-5 years per industry norms, so SpaceX bulls' claimed 2-2.5 year timeline for their own ASIC (roughly 12 months in already, another ~1.5 years to go) is very aggressive.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    AST's low-band satellites use roughly 3,000 cell beams and mid-band BlueBirds use roughly 10,000 cell beams, comparable to the beam counts Starlink touts for V3.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Starlink's proposed network design requires a phone to reconnect to a satellite roughly every 1-2 minutes, which Anpanman argues drains phone battery and limits Starlink's ability to support voice over LTE now or for the foreseeable future.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman says he does not understand the report's claim that AST 'lacks a fixed constellation for wireless meshing' as a Starlink advantage, and plans to ask a SpaceMob contact ('Katzi') to clarify what that phrase even means.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    The report claims Starlink's global brand recognition and fixed-wireless revenue are equivalent to about 340 million direct-to-cell users (and could reach 680 million by the time AST launches in select markets); Anpanman calls this 'apples and oranges' since it compares fixed-wireless home broadband revenue to sporadic mobile direct-to-cell usage.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    The report notes Starlink's global ARPU is about $85/month versus AST's expected lower direct-to-cell ARPU; Anpanman agrees this is true but says it's an irrelevant comparison since the services and use cases are completely different (home broadband vs. sporadic phone connectivity).

Business model and brand-recognition argument

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    AST operates as a wholesaler/infrastructure layer that reuses MNO partners' own spectrum (e.g., AT&T's low-band), and does not need consumer brand recognition because AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone, and other MNOs sell and brand the service to their own subscribers (e.g., 'Verizon satellite service'), unlike Starlink which sells terminals and service directly to consumers and must build its own brand.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Because AST doesn't need to spend on consumer marketing or customer acquisition, Anpanman expects the business can eventually reach EBITDA margins around 90%.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman argues Starlink is effectively a 'Trojan horse' into the wireless business over time, potentially via an MVNO partnership or a 'Starlink Mobile' offering, which is not the model AST pursues.

Valuation and Scotia's DCF model contradiction

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    The Scotia report frames AST's roughly $37 billion market cap as 'irrational'/priced for perfection, while Anpanman counters by noting SpaceX/Starlink has raised capital at an $800 billion valuation and is reportedly going public at a $1.5 trillion valuation within six months, which he says the report treats as 'rational.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman does a rough sum-of-the-parts: he estimates the Ligado spectrum deal alone is worth about $15 billion, implying the market is valuing AST's commercial business at only about $20 billion (as of the prior day's valuation) — not even counting the military/defense business.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    Scotia's own model reportedly bases its $45-55/share target on 2028 as the first year of 'reasonable' free cash flow, projecting about $3.5 billion of FCF that year; Anpanman notes a 10% FCF yield on that alone implies roughly $35 billion of equity value.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    Per Anpanman's read of the model, Scotia projects FCF of about $1.5 billion in 2027, $3.5 billion in 2028, doubling to about $6.1 billion in 2029, $11.6 billion in 2030, and roughly $17.8 billion by 2032 — which Anpanman calls insane growth that contradicts a Sell rating.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    The $45-55 valuation reportedly assumes about 225 million paid subscribers globally with an average ARPU of $2.92, which Anpanman thinks is too low, and the model only counts commercial subscribers — excluding FirstNet or other defense use cases that could add several billion dollars of FCF on their own.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman calculates the report's own valuation implies a free cash flow yield of about 45.9%, which he calls insane for a 'fairly valued' Sell-rated stock.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman notes Scotia's price target has stayed roughly static at $42-45 over time, with the analyst nudging the target down by about $1.50-$2 each time AST does a new financing to account for incremental dilution.

Strategic wins the report allegedly ignores or downplays

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    The report does not acknowledge that AST signed a definitive commercial agreement with Verizon, despite the analyst previously (around June) predicting Verizon customers might switch to Starlink — a claim also echoed by Tim Farrar; Anpanman recalls the Verizon deal was announced roughly 24 hours after that prediction was published (he is uncertain whether this was June or October).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The report also reportedly does not mention the Saudi Telecom Company (stc) deal, which Anpanman calls probably the biggest commercial win in the industry outside AT&T and Verizon: about $1.8 billion committed over 10 years including a $175 million prepayment.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman notes Saudi Telecom is owned by Saudi Arabia's PIF sovereign wealth fund, which also holds a large SpaceX stake and knows Elon Musk well — meaning PIF evaluated Starlink for years before ultimately choosing AST, which he frames as a strong validation signal the report ignores.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    The report cites Starlink signing Virgin Media O2 in the UK as a competitive win, but Anpanman says Virgin had no other choice since AST and Vodafone hold UK exclusivity; similarly, KDDI, NTT Docomo, and SoftBank signed with Starlink in Japan only because Rakuten holds AST exclusivity there.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    The report highlights a rumored Starlink deal with a Mexican MNO (possibly Telcel) but omits that AST is already testing service with Altán, Mexico's government-owned wholesale carrier holding nationwide 700 MHz spectrum tasked with providing 100% coverage; Anpanman also notes Elon Musk previously called Carlos Slim a 'drug dealer,' making a Slim-Starlink partnership unlikely.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    On Europe, Anpanman argues Starlink is largely locked out except Ukraine, and that AST (via Vodafone and the SatCo JV) is positioned to obtain 2 GHz MSS spectrum in Europe, expected to be allocated around May 2027, with Anpanman doubting EchoStar will secure that allocation because the EU will see through EchoStar to Starlink's involvement.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The report cites EchoStar's acquisition of 10 MHz of AWS H-block and 40 MHz of AWS-4 spectrum for about $19 billion, which Anpanman notes covered only US spectrum rights (global rights are separate/unresolved), offering a data point on the value of Ligado's spectrum.

Timeline, production, and delays

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The report notes AST guided in late 2020 to having 110 satellites in orbit by 2023, which clearly slipped; Anpanman attributes delays partly to capital markets shutting down after the 2021 SPAC bubble and 2022 rate hikes, which hit growth companies broadly.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    The report notes AST has launched only 7 satellites since 2017, versus Starlink launching 3,169 units in 2025 alone; Anpanman calls this an apples-to-oranges comparison since Starlink's V2/V2.5 satellites are much smaller fixed-wireless units, not broadband direct-to-cell satellites.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman notes Starlink itself has not expanded beyond 650 direct-to-cell satellites, speculating this may be because SpaceX is waiting to improve the service with V3 rather than continuing to add current-generation direct-to-cell satellites.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    The report claims AST is losing a 'timing advantage' (citing something like 48 hours, which Anpanman says he doesn't understand the basis for); Anpanman counters that Scott Wisniewski has publicly stated AST believes it is about 5 years ahead of competitors on actual broadband capability.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    FM2 (BlueBird 7), described as an SDA Halo-related satellite, is expected to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn, likely in early February based on timing, followed by two batches of Block 2 BlueBirds launching on Falcon 9, likely in early and late February.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman expects a production-cadence update from the company 'relatively soon.'

Other points and personal anecdotes

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    The report reiterates a 'Netflix analogy' claiming Starlink fixed wireless took a year to add 1 million subscribers but only 47 days to add the 9 millionth, which Anpanman again calls an apples-to-oranges comparison to AST's direct-to-cell subscriber growth potential.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman recounts a family ski trip where there was no cell coverage on the mountain outside of the lodges, prompting his wife to look at walkie-talkie solutions for the kids, and where he personally tried and failed to get Apple's satellite SOS/messaging feature to work.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman argues satellite connectivity is valuable specifically because it's used in the moments people most need it (emergencies, lost kids, no coverage areas), comparing it to how people already pay a large premium for cell service used only ~5-10% of the day.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman says he still owes the community a 2025 year-in-review and 2026 outlook space, and mentions Redrum's community award poll results have not yet been published, possibly to be written up by Kook or himself.

Watch Items6

  • FM2 / BlueBird 7 (SDA Halo-related satellite) launch on Blue Origin New Glenn

    Likely early February (2026), per Anpanman's timing-based estimate Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Two additional batches of Block 2 BlueBird satellites launching on SpaceX Falcon 9

    Likely early and late February (2026), per Anpanman's estimate Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Company production-cadence update

    Expected 'relatively soon' Anpanman 00:00:25
  • AST/SatCo allocation of 2 GHz MSS spectrum in Europe

    Anpanman expects allocation around May 2027 Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Potential Golden Dome/military contract award

    Not specifically dated; described as 'on the horizon' Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Anpanman's planned 2025 year-in-review / 2026 outlook space and Redrum's community award results

    Not yet scheduled Anpanman 00:00:25

Open Questions4

  • What does the Scotia report's claim that AST 'lacks a fixed constellation for wireless meshing' (as a Starlink advantage) actually mean?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Whether Starlink's future fixed-wireless and direct-to-cell services will run on separate satellites or be hosted on a single combined satellite platform (with Elon Musk also reportedly discussing adding data-center applications).

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Whether EchoStar will obtain global (beyond just US) rights to the AWS H-block/AWS-4 spectrum it acquired, and whether EchoStar (versus AST) will secure the EU's 2 GHz MSS spectrum allocation.

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Whether other podcast listeners have successfully gotten Apple's satellite SOS/messaging feature to work in no-coverage areas, given Anpanman's own failed attempt while skiing.

    Anpanman 00:00:25
2026-01-05 47:34

Kook's Weekly - January 4 - FM1 Health, The Spy Configuration & Battling the Bears

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' episode (Jan 4, 2026), Kook covers FCC confirmation that BlueBird FM1 has completed its Launch and Early Orbit Phase — talking, powered, detumbling, but not yet unfurled.

He also covers FM2's arrival at Cape Canaveral and orbital data suggesting FM1/FM2 are flying in a staggered SDA test formation useful for radar geolocation ('spy stuff').

Other topics include AT&T's COO visiting Midland to sign FM2 and a FirstNet strategic-investment announcement for satellite push-to-talk. Kook spends the back half of the episode rebutting bear arguments about the wholesale business model, execution risk, satellite life, and SpaceX competition — from Twitter users 'Valuations' and an AI-generated 'Stone Fox Capital' case.

Kook's headline conclusion is that the wholesale/MNO-partnership model is the only viable path, giving ASTS a near-zero CAC and multi-client economies of scale, that the company has already 'lived through' its worst execution risk, and that the stock is best framed as an open-ended 'platform' bet rather than a fixed price target.

Key Takeaways

  • FCC filings confirm BlueBird FM1 has completed Launch and Early Orbit Phase (LEOP) operations — the satellite is communicating with Earth, generating power, and detumbling as expected — but its phased-array antenna has not yet unfurled (the separate 'commissioning' phase).
  • BlueBird FM2 (also referred to as BlueBird 7) has arrived safely at a payload processing facility at Cape Canaveral; based on differences in FCC filings versus the SpaceX-launched satellites, Kook believes FM2 is more likely to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn rather than SpaceX, though this is his inference, not a confirmed fact.
  • Orbital tracking shows FM1 and FM2 flying in a staggered formation (approximately 53-degree inclination/520 km for one satellite and 50-degree/460 km for the other); Kook argues the resulting relative motion is designed for radar signal geolocation and 'emitter analysis' testing tied to the Space Development Agency (SDA), evidence of non-communications/defense use cases for the satellites.
  • AT&T COO Jeff McElfresh personally visited AST SpaceMobile's Midland clean room to sign the FM2 satellite before shipment, which Kook reads as a sign that AT&T's own beta-service timeline (which AT&T has said it targets for the first half of 2026, subject to possible delay) is on track.
  • FirstNet publicly announced a strategic investment to add satellite-to-device capabilities, including push-to-talk, to its network; Kook identifies this as referring to AST SpaceMobile and expects a formal FirstNet commercial deal to be announced soon. A small public company called Beware, a Bell Canada channel partner, is also positioned to offer roughly 11,000 IoT devices to FirstNet clients as part of the distribution buildout.
  • Kook rebutted a Twitter bear ('Valuations') point-by-point on the wholesale business model, the 7-year satellite replacement estimate, execution risk, Golden Dome speculation, and the SpaceX competitive threat, conceding only that Golden Dome defense revenue is unconfirmed speculation ('hopium') that should not be assumed in a valuation model.
  • Kook's core defense of the wholesale model: because AST SpaceMobile's MNO partners already own the spectrum and the customers, AST's own customer acquisition cost (CAC) is effectively zero, and building one shared constellation lets AST spread fixed costs across many MNOs worldwide — cheaper for a partner like AT&T than building its own constellation, while giving AST access to the rest of the world's subscribers too.
  • As competitive context, Kook cited SpaceX/Starlink Direct to Cell's stated traction — roughly 9 million customers, 21 million airline passengers served, and 20 million cruise passengers served — and noted SpaceX is lowering its satellite orbits from 550 km to 480 km to improve link budget, which Kook says will shorten Starlink satellite lifespan and could become a bigger competitive differentiator against AST SpaceMobile around 2027.
  • Kook speculates (not confirmed) that AST SpaceMobile will announce it has reached satellite production capacity of six satellites per month within the next two weeks, likely timed to coincide with shipment of a second batch of satellites; he also expects an FM2 launch date announcement soon and FM1's antenna deployment within about a month.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

FM1 & FM2 Satellite Status

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:28

    FCC letters confirm that BlueBird FM1 has completed 'Launch and Early Orbit Phase' (LEOP) operations — the critical period after launch where the satellite transforms from an inert 'brick' into a functioning spacecraft: it is talking back to Earth, generating power, and detumbling as expected.

  • Kook Untagged 00:02:12

    LEOP is distinct from the 'commissioning' phase, where the satellite unfurls its large phased array — one of the company's key IP moats. Kook is tracking orbital data himself (using a Python script) to try to spot the unfurl before the company announces it, and as of this recording there wasn't yet enough data to tell.

  • Kook Speculation 00:02:12

    BlueBird FM2 has arrived safely at Cape Canaveral and is now in the payload processing facility of its (unconfirmed) launch vehicle provider. Citing analysis from 'Tanner' showing differences in the FCC approvals versus AST's prior SpaceX-launched satellites, Kook speculates FM2 will most likely launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn rather than SpaceX.

  • Kook Speculation 00:02:12

    FM1 was previously delayed roughly 9 months in 2025; Kook believes the critical-path production issues behind that slip are now resolved, with the remaining integration item being the AST5000 ASIC, which he expects to be finished within this quarter (Q1 2026).

SDA Test Formation — Non-Communications / "Spy" Use Cases

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:02:12

    Orbital tracking shows FM1 and FM2 flying in a deliberately staggered formation — approximately 53-degree inclination at 520 km for one satellite and 50-degree inclination at 460 km for the other (Kook's spoken figures were somewhat garbled/inconsistent in the recording, but this matches the show notes). The slight differences in height and angle create ongoing relative motion between the pair.

  • Kook Speculation 00:02:12

    That relative motion enables dynamic baselines and viewing angles 'perfect for radar signal geolocation and emitter analysis' — i.e., this is testing tied to non-communications, defense-oriented use cases sponsored by the Space Development Agency (SDA), a 'try before you buy' situation ahead of the government ordering a full constellation.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:02:12

    Kook notes the company has said it is working on 10 'programs of record' for non-communication use cases, and that this was a point people used to mock the community for two years ago but is no longer controversial given company disclosures and awards.

AT&T & FirstNet

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:02:12

    AT&T COO Jeff McElfresh visited AST's Midland clean room and personally signed the FM2 (BlueBird 7) satellite ahead of shipment — Kook frames this as evidence that senior MNO leadership, not just low-level staff, are directly engaged with the program.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:02:12

    AT&T has said its D2D beta service milestones are 'within sight' and that it plans to launch beta service in the first half of 2026, though Kook cautions this could still slip.

  • Kook Speculation 00:02:12

    Kook speculates that when McElfresh visited Midland he likely saw roughly two dozen satellites in varying stages of completion, including about six that are largely done (across 'batch 1' and 'batch 2'), which Kook believes is what gives AT&T confidence in the constellation timeline.

  • Kook Speculation 00:02:12

    Kook speculates that a Golden Dome-related announcement could come 'tomorrow,' reasoning that SpaceX tends to put out a flurry of its own news releases right before ASTS makes a major announcement, and that SpaceX had a heavy news week just prior to this recording. He stresses he has no actual confirmation of this.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:11:36

    FirstNet publicly tweeted about a strategic investment upgrading the FirstNet network to include capabilities beyond standard communications, specifically to 'support future public safety-focused satellite-to-device features, including push-to-talk' — Kook states plainly this refers to AST SpaceMobile.

  • Kook Rumor 00:11:36

    Separately, ASTS Investors (a Twitter account) noted that Beware — a small publicly traded company that is a channel partner for Bell Canada — is positioned to offer AT&T's ASTS-based D2D service to FirstNet clients through an existing distribution channel already covering over 11,000 IoT devices; Kook was unsure whether the 11,000 devices are already deployed or being newly offered.

Addressing the Bears — "Valuations" and Stone Fox Capital

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  • Kook Untagged 00:12:02

    Kook notes that an investor called 'Space Investor' reportedly sold his entire ASTS and Rocket Lab position after the stock rose (the stock was up about 15% on Friday), prompting Kook to address whether holders are 'idiots' for continuing to own the stock after such a run — he says he doesn't actually know the answer and continues doing weekly diligence instead.

  • Kook Untagged 00:12:02

    Kook has been trying to get vocal ASTS bears onto the Spaces to debate; 'Pivotal Capital' never responded and 'Stone Fox Capital' declined, citing his large following. A bear account called 'Valuations' did engage and provided written pushback on Kook's bull case write-up, which Kook addresses point by point.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:14:27

    Valuations' first point: the wholesale model is 'not great' because MNOs own the spectrum and the customers, giving them all the leverage — it's a free option for them while ASTS bears all the CapEx and risk.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:14:52

    Kook's rebuttal: the wholesale model is the only viable model — going direct-to-consumer would require ASTS to acquire its own customer base and would bankrupt the company (comparing it to reinventing Iridium). Because MNOs already own the customers, ASTS's own customer acquisition cost (CAC) is effectively zero via revenue-share arrangements, which he calls the key unit-economics concept for the business.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook argues the wholesale structure also creates a multi-client economies-of-scale advantage: e.g., if AT&T built its own $3 billion constellation it could only monetize its own ~100 million US subscribers, whereas ASTS can build a comparable constellation for the same cost and monetize AT&T's subscribers plus the rest of the world, letting ASTS and AT&T split the resulting savings versus AT&T building alone.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:14:52

    On Valuations' doubt about the 7-year satellite replacement estimate, Kook says this follows from flying at higher orbital altitudes per the Orbital Debris Assessment Report (ODAR), calling it uncontroversial math rather than a debatable assumption; he personally models on a more conservative 5-year assumption.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:14:52

    On execution risk, Kook agrees it is real and says the company already 'lived through' the worst of it — near-bankruptcy, years of schedule slippage, and heavier-than-expected dilution (share count would have been roughly 200 million shares had the risk not materialized) — and notes that shorts who bet on this risk were factually correct yet the stock is still near all-time highs.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:14:52

    On Golden Dome, Valuations calls it 'pure speculation'/'hopium' that shouldn't be in a valuation model; Kook concedes the point, saying the investment thesis does not depend on Golden Dome, even though he personally believes the odds of the company winning Golden Dome-related business are now better than a coin flip.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:14:52

    On the claim that 'ASTS is paying SpaceX for the privilege to exist,' Kook disputes the framing — SpaceX is a commodity launch provider used by many customers including Amazon's Kuiper and Blue Origin (SpaceX's 'mortal enemies') — but agrees SpaceX/Starlink is nonetheless the single biggest competitive threat to ASTS.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:14:52

    Valuations argued the bull case should really be framed around roughly 10% penetration and $5 ARPU in developed markets (assuming the technology works), essentially a demand/attach-rate skepticism; Kook says this is a fair bear case and notes he personally underwrites the business using a more conservative ~$2 ARPU assumption.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Because Stone Fox Capital declined to appear, Kook used an AI tool (Grok, trained on Stone Fox's tweets and Seeking Alpha writing) to generate an unprompted, 'unbiased' approximation of his bear case: repeated delays (no satellites launched until FM1), concerns about future dilution, competition, and valuation — arguing the roughly $40 billion market cap is priced for perfection.

Valuation Framework — "Platform Stock" Thesis

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  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook argues the company's financial risk has fallen sharply versus when the stock traded near $2 (bankruptcy risk) — with roughly $3 billion of cash on hand now, he says the company could raise another billion tomorrow if it wanted, making near-term financial risk 'effectively zero.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook frames ASTS as a potential 'platform stock' — one where the addressable business opportunity keeps expanding (citing Amazon/AWS and Google as analogies), making a fixed target price hard to define; he cites new-found value streams (non-communications government use cases, Golden Dome, national redundant-network 'guard band' use cases) that weren't contemplated at the time of the SPAC merger.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    As a rough long-term framework, Kook suggests 'really successful' companies are worth multiple trillions of dollars while 'pretty successful but under-the-radar' companies trade in the $50-200 billion range, and personally frames his intermediate long-term reevaluation point for ASTS around $250-500 per share — explicitly a long-run, not near-term, target.

International Regulation — Australia D2D Mandate

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:14:52

    Australia is mandating D2D coverage, and in regulatory dockets other Australian MNOs — including Telstra — are stating they cannot meet the mandate without adding new spectrum standards (specifically NR NTN, a newer 5G non-terrestrial-network technology that isn't yet globally adopted and would require costly chipset R&D and satellite/network upgrades).

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook believes the likely outcome is that Australian (and similarly positioned) MNOs will simply become ASTS customers to satisfy the regulatory mandate quickly, rather than build out competing NR NTN infrastructure themselves.

Patents and Technology Moat

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  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Referencing a long thread by 'Katsia'/'Cassie,' Kook summarizes a newly filed ASTS patent addressing how to calibrate the satellites so radio frequencies remain accurate despite the satellite moving at roughly 17,000 mph and cycling through extreme temperature swings; the thread's author (and Kook) concludes this represents an extreme technology moat for the company.

Government / Defense Business (SDA, Golden Dome, Space-Based AI)

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  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    The SDA testing (referenced earlier re: FM1/FM2 orbital formation) is described as the 'onboarding ramp' toward Golden Dome and other government programs, following a milestone path: get the satellite on orbit (achieved), demonstrate and share data, and close out the assessment — after which the technology becomes 'accepted' for further government business under programs like HALO.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    A New York Times article ('AI in the Sky: Space is Seen as a Data Site') discusses space-based AI data centers; Kook believes ASTS could be well-positioned for on-orbit compute given its satellites generate significant power, though he says he's had difficulty making the economics clearly beat terrestrial data centers, while noting Elon Musk has expressed belief that space-based compute can work. He suggests US government/military applications may be willing to pay a premium for on-orbit compute regardless.

Competitive Landscape — SpaceX/Starlink and Globalstar

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  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    SpaceX is actively contesting AST's constellation approvals through FCC filings that Kook characterizes as attempts to 'FUD' the process; he expects these efforts to be unsuccessful, citing analysis from 'Cassie' pointing out inconsistencies in SpaceX's own positions.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:14:52

    SpaceX is lowering its Starlink Direct to Cell satellites' orbital altitude from 550 km to 480 km to improve link budget (helping compensate for weaker power/beamforming versus higher orbits), per Elon Musk's public comments. Kook says the tradeoff is faster orbital decay and shorter satellite lifespan, since decay accelerates non-linearly at lower altitudes.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook predicts that starting around 2027, once 'does it work' and 'is there demand' questions are resolved, the market will start differentiating ASTS and SpaceX based on free-cash-flow conversion and capital efficiency — drawing an analogy to SaaS companies, where inefficient ARR traded at 3-5x sales versus 15-20x for efficient ARR; he argues a company needing to replace satellites every 3-5 years and use twice as many satellites is meaningfully less capital-efficient than one replacing only ~15% of its fleet per year.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:14:52

    Citing SpaceX's own Starlink Direct to Cell progress report, Kook notes the company has reached roughly 9 million customers, served 21 million airline passengers, and served 20 million cruise passengers, calling the reach numbers evidence of a large addressable market, while noting it's unclear what share of those 'reached' passengers actually pay for ongoing service.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook flags that Globalstar still has not launched its new Apple-funded constellation, and speculates (without direct evidence) that Apple may be reconsidering the investment given the emergence of alternative solutions like ASTS's, calling the 'Globalstar saga' not yet over.

Other Industry Notes — SpainSat NG Anomaly and Satellite Insurance

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:14:52

    A separate satellite, SpainSat NG (not an AST satellite), suffered an anomaly after being hit by a space particle; it was insured and the operator received (or will receive) roughly $400 million for the loss. Kook raises this as a reminder that, statistically, ASTS will likely face a satellite anomaly at some point — how much it matters to the stock will depend on how far along the constellation buildout is when it happens.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:14:52

    Kook notes that, per prior comments from company President Scott Wisniewski, AST SpaceMobile insures the first 15 minutes of a satellite's life (essentially ground-to-orbit during launch), so a bad launch or early separation anomaly would yield an insurance payout of roughly $20+ million per satellite.

  • Kook Untagged 00:14:52

    Kook also mentions a 'Bluegrass Capital' write-up on the stock and their investment thesis, offering it as reading material for listeners to compare against their own views, without endorsing or critiquing specific points.

Outlook / What to Watch

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  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook personally expects (his own guess, giving himself roughly a 2-week window) that Scott Wisniewski or the company will announce satellite production capacity of 6 satellites per month, likely timed to coincide with the shipment of 'batch 1,' since announcing the rate without shipped proof would otherwise invite skepticism.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook expects a launch date for FM2 to be announced 'pretty soon' and hopes to be able to cover it live.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook expects FM1's antenna array deployment/unfurl to occur within roughly the next month.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:52

    Kook believes FirstNet's public messaging makes it 'pretty obvious' that a formal FirstNet commercial deal with AST SpaceMobile is coming.

Watch Items7

  • FM2 (BlueBird 7) launch date announcement

    Expected "pretty soon" per Kook Kook 00:14:52
  • FM1 antenna array deployment/unfurl (commissioning phase)

    Expected within about the next month per Kook Kook 00:02:12
  • Announcement of satellite production capacity reaching 6 satellites/month

    Kook expects within the next 2 weeks, tied to shipment of 'batch 1' Kook 00:14:52
  • AT&T beta D2D service launch

    First half of 2026 per AT&T, per Kook (subject to possible delay) Kook 00:02:12
  • AST5000 ASIC integration completion

    Expected to be finished within the current quarter (Q1 2026) per Kook Kook 00:02:12
  • Possible Golden Dome-related company announcement

    Kook speculated it could come "tomorrow" (i.e., shortly after the Jan 4, 2026 recording), based on SpaceX news-release patterns Kook 00:02:12
  • Formal FirstNet commercial deal announcement

    Not specifically dated; Kook says FirstNet's messaging makes a deal seem imminent Kook 00:11:36

Open Questions6

  • Are the 11,000 IoT devices referenced in the Beware/FirstNet distribution-channel language already deployed, or is that the total addressable size of a channel being newly offered to FirstNet clients?

    Kook 00:11:36
  • Which launch vehicle provider will actually carry FM2 — is it Blue Origin's New Glenn, as Kook infers from differing FCC filings, or another provider?

    Kook 00:02:12
  • Will AST SpaceMobile actually win meaningful Golden Dome-related defense business, and on what timeline — Kook believes it's more likely than not but concedes it is currently unconfirmed speculation?

    Kook 00:14:52
  • Can space-based AI/compute data centers actually be more economical than terrestrial data centers, given the power AST's satellites generate — the math is not yet proven out?

    Kook 00:14:52
  • Will Apple continue funding and proceed with Globalstar's new satellite constellation, or is Apple trying to exit given emerging alternatives?

    Kook 00:14:52
  • What will actual market penetration and ARPU turn out to be — the central unresolved variable determining whether the bear case (niche product, low attach rate) or the bull case plays out?

    Kook 00:14:52
2025-12-29 35:25

Kook's Weekly - December 28

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' recap (published 2025-12-29, returning from a brief X suspension), Kook reviews the successful FM-1 (BlueBird 6) launch on ISRO's LVM3 rocket. He argues FM-1 and its sibling FM-2 (BlueBird 7) are likely SDA/Golden-Dome-linked government test satellites being launched on diversified (non-SpaceX) launch vehicles.

He walks through post-launch satellite status (detumbling, awaiting solar charge before 'unfurling'), and dismisses the launch-week stock selloff as short sellers' now-predictable 'sell the news' pattern.

The real catalyst ahead, he argues, is the imminent shipment of 'Batch 1' and 'Batch 2' production satellites, which he frames as the company's transition from an R&D story to an operational, N-of-2 (alongside SpaceX) satellite manufacturer.

He closes with his own back-of-envelope valuation framework, a Golden Dome/DoD recognition update (ASTS named the DoD's #1 standout startup of the year, ahead of Rocket Lab), and a comparison arguing SpaceX/Starlink's direct-to-cell architecture is structurally behind AST SpaceMobile despite its larger existing satellite count.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook (The KOOK Report) was briefly suspended from X for telling Bill Ackman to 'die on this hill' regarding fraud claims, which X flagged as a threat; he has since returned to publish this episode.
  • AST SpaceMobile's FM-1 satellite (BlueBird 6) launched successfully on India's ISRO LVM3 rocket, generated major publicity including tweets from Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and established communication with the ground shortly after reaching orbit.
  • Kook believes (as his own inference, not confirmed by the company) that FM-1 and the upcoming FM-2 (BlueBird 7) are Space Development Agency (SDA) satellites being used for government technology trials that feed into the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative, and that FM-2 will launch on a non-SpaceX rocket as part of a launch-provider diversification strategy.
  • The satellite must detumble and generate enough solar power before it can 'unfurl' (Kook's preferred term, versus the company's 'unfold') its array; AST has a 6-for-6 track record unfurling satellites of increasingly larger size, and Kook expects FM-1 to unfurl within about a month, with one to two more launches expected before then.
  • ASTS stock sold off sharply after the launch (Wednesday and Friday), which Kook attributes to short sellers exploiting a now-predictable 'sell the news' pattern around launches rather than to any fundamental problem.
  • The company has shifted its language from describing satellites as 'in production' to 'in various stages of assembly, integration, and testing,' which Kook interprets as a signal that roughly six satellites (his own 'Batch 1' and 'Batch 2' terminology) are in final vibration and thermal-vacuum (TVAC) testing ahead of shipment within the next one to two weeks — an event he calls a seminal moment marking the company's transition from an R&D experiment to an operational, N-of-2 (with SpaceX) large-satellite manufacturer.
  • The U.S. Department of Defense's principal director of space technology, Brian Dorland, named AST SpaceMobile the #1 standout startup of the year (ahead of Rocket Lab), stating the company 'demonstrated direct-to-device connectivity using large deployable LEO satellites and unmodified smartphones,' calling it 'a genuine architectural shift in global communications.'
  • Kook argues that despite Starlink having roughly 750 satellites already in orbit versus AST's much smaller fleet, Starlink would need roughly 5,000 satellites for continuous direct-to-device coverage by his rough math, and its architecture may structurally be unable to support real voice-over-LTE calls (relying instead on something like WhatsApp messaging), giving AST SpaceMobile a durable architectural edge despite Starlink's head start in raw satellite count.

Detailed Discussion13 topics

Personal update: brief X suspension

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Kook explains he got temporarily banned from X the day before this episode after telling Bill Ackman to 'die on this hill' regarding fraud allegations, which X interpreted as a death threat despite it being intended as a colloquialism; he considered starting a new account but is publishing this episode after being unable to recover his old one initially.

FM-1 Launch Review

3
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Kook describes watching the FM-1 launch live, noting the rocket's dramatic liftoff ('torqued') and that the company's video livestream froze/had quality issues during the broadcast, which he believes is what some short sellers were positioned for.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:28

    Kook states the satellites are now orbiting at roughly 17,000 miles per hour and that the company promptly notified the public once it established communication with FM-1 after launch.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Kook says he has his 'birdwatching' satellite-tracking software working again and will resume publishing orbital tracking data, watching for signs the satellite has unfurled.

Nomenclature and post-launch satellite status

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Kook notes the company (via Scott, presumably Scott Wisniewski) is trying to standardize on the term 'unfold' for antenna deployment, but says he will deliberately keep using 'unfurl' instead.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:49

    Kook explains the post-launch sequence: the satellite tumbles ('somersaults') in the vacuum of space and must detumble, then must generate enough solar power to recharge batteries before the antenna array can unfurl; he expects FM-1 to unfurl within about a month, and expects one to two additional launches before that happens.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:10:49

    Kook says AST is 6-for-6 on successfully unfurling satellites of increasingly large size to date, and that the newer, larger satellite design is actually simpler to unfurl due to fewer moving actions (crediting the company's 'chief simplicity officer' role/philosophy), extensively pre-tested via repeated unfurl/refurl cycles at the manufacturing facility.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:10:49

    Kook recalls that BlueWalker 3 had an issue with a strap that caused a longer-than-expected detumble process, but says the company has since gotten better at this process.

Military/government applications: SDA, Golden Dome, and Navy ship-to-ship capability

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook says it's 'pretty obvious' from public documents, though not something he can confirm as fact, that FM-1 and FM-2 are SDA (Space Development Agency) satellites being used by the government to trial new technologies that will feed into the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:05:34

    Kook highlights that the company's launch hype video (narrated by commentator Emma Yorna) demonstrated a ship-to-ship data transfer capability — data goes up to the satellite and directly back down to another vessel without needing a ground station — which avoids data-sovereignty issues (e.g., a US Pacific Fleet operating near China would not want to route data through a nearby country's ground station). Kook states this Navy interest is not speculation on his part: 'I know this for sure.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook says he is still gathering information on how Golden Dome approvals work, but remains convinced ASTS will be a major part of it via the SDA feeding technology into the Missile Defense Agency (MDA), with AST expected to be prominent in the 'transport and custody' layers of Golden Dome.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:22:34

    Kook cites Brian Dorland, principal director of space technology for the U.S. Department of Defense, who named five standout startups of the year with AST SpaceMobile at number one (ahead of Rocket Lab), stating the company 'demonstrated' (past tense) direct-to-device connectivity using large deployable LEO satellites and unmodified smartphones, calling it 'a genuine architectural shift in global communications.'

  • Kook Untagged 00:22:34

    Kook notes FirstNet funding announcements have referenced funding for satellite direct-to-device services in addition to new terrestrial cell sites, but says he doesn't yet know the timing or how this will translate into actual revenue for AST.

Launch diversification and FM-2 / BlueBird 7

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook believes FM-2 will not launch on SpaceX as part of a launch-provider diversification strategy, which he says will be 'a pretty interesting event' when it happens.

  • Kook Untagged 00:10:49

    Kook notes FM-2 was likely ready to ship earlier but was waiting on launch-vehicle readiness; AT&T tweeted about a 'Cape Canaveral roll call' for the next launch, which Kook hopes to attend in person.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:49

    Kook relays a point raised by Tanner or Kevin that there is no approved STA (Special Temporary Authority) for FM-2 yet; since SpaceX requires an approved STA before it will ship a payload and BlueBird 7 has already shipped, Kook implies this supports a non-SpaceX launch for FM-2.

  • Kook Speculation 00:16:17

    AST SpaceMobile posted a webcast template reading 'BlueBird 7 launch coming soon.' Kook speculates that President Scott Wisniewski may release a launch date as soon as next week.

India launch reception and partnerships

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:05:34

    Kook says the launch generated unusually strong publicity, including Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi tweeting 2-3 times congratulating AST SpaceMobile on the BlueBird launch — a notable endorsement for a US company by a foreign head of government.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:05:34

    AT&T retweeted the launch with the message 'boosters on, wings out' and the hashtag #SpaceMob; Vodafone India (VI) also retweeted the launch, which Kook frames as confirming AST's strategic partners in the Indian market.

  • Kook Untagged 00:05:34

    Kook argues that launching with a local Indian partner (ISRO) builds valuable goodwill and 'local content' credibility in the Indian market, drawing an analogy to his background in natural resources where including local value-chain participation is important (and sometimes required) for doing business in a country.

Market reaction and short sellers

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  • Kook Untagged 00:10:49

    Kook says shorts drove the stock down sharply on the Wednesday launch day and again on Friday, with the Friday magnitude surprising him even though he wasn't shocked the stock traded off at all around a launch ('sell the news').

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:49

    Kook says he positioned himself ahead of time so a selloff wouldn't force him into bad adjustments, and he expects an eventual 'reapproach to the highs.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:49

    Kook argues algos and shorts are underestimating two things: how quickly a launch date will be announced for FM-2, and the significance of 'Batch 1' and 'Batch 2' (his own terms for the first true production satellite groups) beginning to ship, which he says is where the real value creation and constellation-building occurs — unlike FM-1/FM-2, which he compares to the unimportant 'first hamburger off the McDonald's line.'

Production ramp: Batch 1/Batch 2 and wording change

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  • Kook Company Guidance 00:16:17

    Daniel Thomas, commercial lead at Vodafone, tweeted that approximately 20 minutes of coverage is created from each satellite launched, which Kook uses to project how quickly intermittent service will build toward continuous coverage.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:16:17

    Kook cites a tweet from 'Justin' showing the time between AST satellite launches collapsing from 41 months, to 24 months, to 15 months, which he attributes to the satellite factory now being built out.

  • Kook Speculation 00:16:17

    Kook notes the company has changed its disclosure language from describing satellites as being 'in various stages of production' to 'in various stages of assembly, integration, and testing,' which he reads as a signal that Batch 1 and Batch 2 (roughly six satellites, by his estimate) are now in final vibration testing and TVAC (thermal vacuum chamber) testing ahead of shipment.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:16:17

    Kook cites a new video featuring John Joyce, VP of Production, showing a behind-the-scenes look at array assembly, which he says pushes back on bears (naming 'Mr. Pink' and 'Dr. Smorgasbord') who compare AST to Nikola (i.e., claim there's no real product/engine behind the company).

  • Kook Untagged 00:16:17

    Kook notes that Ted Cruz and FCC Chairman Brendan Carr have visited AST's manufacturing facilities, and that some outside experts who have toured the facility validate the production ramp-up, even though the company hasn't opened the factory to citizen journalists.

  • Kook Speculation 00:34:11

    Kook expects Batch 1 satellites to ship within the next one to two weeks, which he calls a seminal event marking the company's transition from an R&D experiment to an operational, 'N-of-2' (alongside SpaceX) large-satellite manufacturer, positioning AST to become one of the largest satellite producers by tonnage globally.

Investment thesis and valuation model

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  • Kook Speculation 00:16:17

    Kook praises a tweet from Anpanman cataloging every AST milestone/event achieved to date (which received about 100,000 views), framing ASTS as a strong event-driven trade that will eventually transition into a high-quality secular growth stock attractive to long-only holders (comparing this to investors like Ron Baron) rather than hedge-fund traders like himself.

  • Kook Speculation 00:16:17

    Kook mentions someone fed AST's stats to Grok (xAI's chatbot) to calculate a stock price, and says Grok 'got it right' in his view, reflecting the relationship between satellites in orbit, cash flow, and stock price.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook describes his own back-of-envelope DD valuation model: assume a satellite production rate, estimate data capacity per satellite from throughput, apply a price of $2 per gigabyte and then a 50% haircut to reach net revenue (which he believes is conservative versus what AST will actually achieve), apply an OpEx assumption he says could be off by roughly $100 million, derive an EBITDA figure, and apply an EBITDA multiple to arrive at a stock price he considers a conservative estimate of where the market will eventually price the stock.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook argues that broader macro themes — space as a national security priority and 6G leadership — will drive capital flows into ASTS, which he views as squarely in the middle of, if not leading, that theme, expecting strong stock returns over the next several years and into 2026.

Shareholder base evolution

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  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook cites a tweet (from someone he calls 'Cathie') discussing trends in ASTS's borrow fee and institutional ownership, and expects the shareholder base to shift toward long-only, high-sponsorship holders as Batch 1/Batch 2 execution moves the company into its operational and monetization phase.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook references his own 'if versus unless' investing framework (posted as a pinned tweet), arguing that as milestones move from conditional ('if') to near-certain ('unless') outcomes, large long-only funds become more comfortable building 5-10% positions.

Competitive comparison: SpaceX / Starlink

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  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook argues that comparisons showing SpaceX 'ahead' on satellite count are misleading: by his rough estimate, Starlink would need about 5,000 satellites to achieve continuous direct-to-device coverage, versus roughly 750 satellites currently in orbit (an uncertain, roughly-stated figure Kook calls '15' of the required constellation, i.e. a small fraction), and he believes AST could reach a comparable equivalent by February, depending on Batch 2.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook says Starlink's architecture is immutable and may never support frictionless voice-over-LTE calls, citing a point from Kevin Chen that Starlink's service may only support something like WhatsApp-based messaging rather than true voice calling.

  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook cites a person he refers to as 'Elena' pointing out that Starlink's fundamental problem is its link budget, noting related changes to Tesla vehicle roofs (radome modifications) intended to improve connectivity with Starlink, framing this as evidence that Starlink's direct-to-cell approach (an adaptation of the Chamath-era IoT-focused satellite swarm) is a 'shoddy response' constrained by physics that can't simply be engineered away.

Short-seller and critic engagement

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  • Kook Speculation 00:22:34

    Kook says other industry commentators have mocked a Tim Ferriss statement (unspecified exact content) as 'the dumbest thing' they've heard, and characterizes such critics broadly as 'paid anti-pumpers' working to protect legacy telecom incumbents, calling this an increasingly uncontroversial view.

  • Kook Untagged 00:22:34

    Kook says he invited short sellers Stone Fox Capital, Pivotal Capital, and 'Dr. Schmuckraker' to appear on his Spaces to present their short case uninterrupted, but none have responded or agreed to appear.

Personal anecdote and closing outlook

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  • Kook Untagged 00:34:11

    Kook shares that while traveling he frequently has no cell phone service, as do many fellow travelers, illustrating real-world demand for satellite coverage of dead zones; his travel guide recounted a search-and-rescue incident where two Irish tourists got lost on a trail for eight hours due to lack of cell service.

  • Kook Speculation 00:34:11

    Kook says the upcoming week is a holiday week so he doesn't expect a flood of company news, though he anticipates an announcement about BlueBird 7/FM-2 arriving at a launch facility, no near-term news from FM-1 itself, and the start of the countdown to Batch 1 shipping within the next one to two weeks, which he calls the moment the company definitively becomes an operational story rather than an R&D bet.

Watch Items5

  • FM-1 (BlueBird 6) antenna array 'unfurling'

    expected within about a month of the episode Kook 00:10:49
  • One to two additional AST satellite launches

    expected before FM-1 unfurls (within roughly the next month) Kook 00:10:49
  • FM-2 (BlueBird 7) launch date announcement

    possibly as soon as next week Kook 00:16:17
  • Batch 1 (approx. six satellites) shipping out of the manufacturing facility

    next one to two weeks Kook 00:34:11
  • AST reaching an effective satellite/coverage capacity comparable to Starlink's current fleet

    possibly by February, depending on Batch 2 Kook 00:22:34

Open Questions4

  • Which non-SpaceX launch provider will be used for FM-2 (BlueBird 7)?

    Kook 00:10:49
  • How and when will FirstNet's stated funding for satellite direct-to-device services actually translate into revenue for AST SpaceMobile?

    Kook 00:22:34
  • What specific role will AST SpaceMobile play in the Golden Dome program's approval and architecture (e.g., the 'transport and custody' layers)?

    Kook 00:22:34
  • Will the stock price actually react when Batch 1 satellites ship, even though Kook views the shipment itself as a fundamentally seminal event?

    Kook 00:34:11
2025-12-24 3:09:16

SPACEMOB LAUNCH PARTY 🅰️

Anpanman · Redrum · Kook · CatSE · Tut · Amit · Tanner · Fool's Gold · Stock Meetups · Jacob · Thomas · Lamello · ASDSFSD · Unidentified guest

This is a live 'launch party' Twitter/X Spaces recording from the AST SpaceMobile community podcast (SpaceMob). It covers the successful December 23, 2025 launch and orbital separation of BlueBird 6 (FM1, the first Block 2 satellite) on an ISRO LVM3-M6 rocket from India.

Host Redrum runs the stream while panelists Anpanman, Kook, CatSE, and Tut share their five-year investment origin stories and dive deep into Golden Dome/defense use cases and spectrum/technical strategy. They field audience questions on launch cadence, funding, and potential M&A, then watch the live ISRO broadcast through booster separation and payload deployment together.

The headline conclusion from the panel is that AST has crossed the 'valley of death' and is now entering a continuous, multi-launch production phase, with 45-60+ satellites targeted for 2026, toward commercial service. Anpanman projects the stock could reach $200/share sometime in 2026.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's BlueBird 6 (FM1), the first Block 2 satellite, launched successfully on ISRO's LVM3-M6 rocket from India on December 23, 2025, with confirmed stage separations and satellite deployment from the rocket during the live broadcast.
  • CatSE calculated roughly a 6% failure probability for the launch beforehand, based on LVM3's track record of 7 successful orbital launches and both New Glenn and LVM3 being 'first-launch successful' rocket families.
  • Anpanman laid out the near-term 2026 launch campaign: BlueBird 7 next (~30 days after shipment, likely late January), then at least two Falcon 9 launches carrying 3 BlueBirds each (probably February), followed by Blue Origin New Glenn launches ramping from an initial batch of 6 satellites up to 8 once the vehicle is optimized, targeting 45-60 satellites in orbit by end of 2026 (with launches overbooked to north of 70 satellites as a contingency).
  • CatSE explained that Block 2's AST5000 ASIC delivers roughly a 3.3x increase in throughput versus Block 1, and satellites launched to the higher ~690 km orbit (versus Block 1's ~520 km) should last roughly 10+ years versus 5-7 years at the lower altitude.
  • CatSE gave an extensive breakdown of AST's Golden Dome/defense potential, citing roughly 8-9 existing contracts with the Department of War and 10 identified military use cases, driven by the satellites' large power-aperture phased arrays enabling space-based radar, multi-static sensing, beamforming, and resilient communications.
  • Anpanman discussed a speculative 'AI data centers in space' thesis, estimating each BlueBird can generate roughly 100 kilowatts of power (up to 100-120 kW including a solar-tail addition), and floated the idea of a dedicated third 'government shell' of satellites beyond the planned low-band and mid-band commercial shells.
  • Anpanman sent 26 bottles of Veuve Clicquot champagne to AST's Midland, Texas manufacturing employees as a thank-you gesture ahead of the launch, following his own past tradition (once sending 33 bottles of champagne to celebrate a prior investment win).
  • Anpanman said founder/CEO Abel Avellan holds 78 million Class C shares worth approximately $6.7 billion as of the episode date and has never sold a share, though the most recent proxy shows Avellan took some stock awards for the first time this year.
  • Anpanman said he does not expect AST to be forced into another capital raise in 2026 given roughly $3 billion of pro forma liquidity, but would not be surprised by an opportunistic raise if additional accretive opportunities (e.g., tied to Golden Dome) arise, similar to the more-than-$1-billion October 2025 convertible raise.
  • This was the historic 100th ISRO orbital launch and the largest commercial communications satellite launched to low Earth orbit, generating major Indian national media coverage; Abel Avellan publicly congratulated India's Prime Minister Modi on the successful launch.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Pre-launch preparation and launch-risk assessment

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  • CatSE Speculation 00:03:32

    CatSE ran probability calculations ahead of the launch and concluded the company is no longer dependent on a single launch for its future the way it arguably was with BlueWalker 3 (whose failure could have been fatal for the company); now with 45 to 60 satellites planned to go up within a year, no single launch failure would be fatal to the mission.

  • CatSE Speculation 00:04:21

    Both Blue Origin's New Glenn and India's LVM3 launch vehicles are a 'rare breed' that succeeded on their first launch attempt, and such vehicles often go on to be in the 95%-or-better reliability class; LVM3 specifically has had 7 successful orbital launches so far, giving CatSE a calculated failure probability of roughly 6% for this launch.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:05:22

    Anpanman noted that people should be mentally prepared for the possibility of an anomaly with either the rocket or the satellite deployment/unfolding process, even though the launch campaign context makes any single failure less catastrophic than in the BlueWalker 3 era.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:05:20

    Anpanman laid out the expected 2026 launch cadence: after this BlueBird 6 launch, BlueBird 7 goes up on either Falcon 9 or possibly Blue Origin New Glenn in January; then at minimum two Falcon 9 launches carrying 3 BlueBirds each probably in February; then New Glenn easing in with an initial 6 satellites per launch before eventually optimizing to approximately 8 per launch.

  • CatSE Confirmed 00:06:46

    CatSE explained the AST5000 ASIC alone provides roughly a 3.3x increase in throughput, and satellites in the higher ~690 km orbit used by later batches will have longer dwell time/longevity — roughly 10 years or more, versus an expected 5 to 7 years at the 520 km altitude used for this satellite — making later launches carry much more capacity and value than this one.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:07:46

    Anpanman noted market sentiment on Blue Origin's New Glenn has swung from skepticism to what he called overoptimism after New Glenn successfully landed its booster, and it remains to be seen what launch cadence Blue Origin can build over 2026.

  • CatSE Untagged 00:12:44

    CatSE noted that launch is a process, not an event — citing former exec Steve Larison — meaning there will be no instant feedback; the sequence is orbital insertion confirmation, then telemetry/TT&C confirmation (possibly a day or two later), then a wait of days to weeks before the satellite is deemed ready to unfold.

  • CatSE Speculation 00:16:01

    CatSE recalled that BlueWalker 3 took roughly 2 months before it was fully deployed, and Block 1 took roughly 6 weeks; CatSE was hoping this satellite would take only about 4 weeks total given AST's more developed ground network (more telemetry stations and gateways) since those earlier launches.

  • CatSE Confirmed 00:17:44

    CatSE recalled that BlueWalker 3 launched September 10, 2022, and two days later Abel Avellan tweeted that it was communicating with a ground station and was thermally stable — a 2-day delay to that first confirmation.

Panelist origin stories / how each got into AST SpaceMobile

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  • Kook Speculation 00:19:23

    Kook said he was initially skeptical the night AST's SPAC deal was announced, fearing it would be 'another failure of a satellite company,' but concluded that AST's innovation was less technical and more about a 'promotional' business model: partnering with MNOs let AST avoid the high customer-acquisition costs that doomed prior satellite ventures, which he saw as the critical insight enabling a scalable, monopoly-style outcome and led him to believe AST was lined up to become a trillion-dollar company.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:21:22

    Anpanman said he came across AST SpaceMobile by already owning a position in NPA (the SPAC), and his real 'aha moment' was a meeting with Abel Avellan in April 2021 that he wrote up and posted on Reddit; he credited the SpaceMob community (Steve Larison, CatSE, Kook, Tut, and others) with giving him the conviction to stay invested through 2021-2024, calling AST 'part of my life' after 5 years invested.

  • Tut Untagged 00:24:42

    Tut said he came across AST when the SPAC deal was announced (Dan and Kook posting about it regularly), followed the story through the 2022 market downturn and the successful BlueWalker 3 launch, and fell deeper into the due-diligence 'rabbit hole' in early 2023; having traveled extensively across Africa, Asia, and South America, his investment thesis centers on the roughly 80%-plus of the world that needs basic connectivity, not just the US/Europe markets.

  • CatSE Untagged 00:27:42

    CatSE said he first learned of the stock from a Swedish finance-market professional posting about it on Facebook, then found Anpanman's Reddit write-up of his Abel meeting and a 'Marshak' video; his own interest was driven by the technology side (phased arrays as general-purpose, multi-use-case technology for sensing as well as communications) rather than the business/financial angle.

Golden Dome and defense/military use cases

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  • CatSE Company Guidance 00:46:14

    CatSE said the company has alluded to having roughly 8 contracts with the US Department of War and has identified 10 different military use cases spanning sensing, computing, and communications, all built on AST's large phased-array power-aperture, advanced beamforming, and side-lobe control (tapering) capabilities described in the company's patents.

  • CatSE Speculation 00:46:14

    CatSE described multiple defense applications: multi-static sensing (one satellite transmits, others listen to form a larger virtual array), enabling terrestrial radars to go silent while still listening for signals bounced by the satellite network, and looking down from space (rather than parallel to Earth's surface) to get radar cross-sections on stealth aircraft and hypersonic threats — comparing the concept to a modern, technologically-feasible version of Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative ('Star Wars').

  • CatSE Confirmed 00:46:14

    CatSE cited the outgoing head of the Space Development Agency (referred to as 'Tournier') as having said, around September, that space-based radar technology is now within reach.

  • CatSE Confirmed 00:46:14

    CatSE noted AST, together with Fairwinds, has tested connectivity with the Android Tactical Assault Kit (ATAK), illustrating the communications use case for the many small radios deployed on soldiers, drones, weapons, and distributed sensors in modern warfare.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:56:50

    Anpanman said the company now has nine contracts with the Department of War, SDA, and DIU (plus some undisclosed), and that the BlueBird launching this evening along with BB7 are likely part of the Halo program, intended to demonstrate capabilities relevant to Golden Dome.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:56:50

    Anpanman said the company has discussed ramping manufacturing capacity potentially beyond 6 satellites a month to up to 10-12, including the potential to build satellites specifically for the government; manufacturing footprint has grown from roughly 400,000 sq ft over the summer to more recently 500,000 sq ft, and at the UBS conference Scott Wisniewski said the company is looking for additional Midland manufacturing space dedicated specifically to building Micron modules.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:56:50

    Anpanman said Scott Wisniewski talked at the end of the UBS presentation about the potential for a third, government-dedicated satellite shell beyond the planned low-band (Block 2) and mid-band (Block 3) commercial shells.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:56:50

    Anpanman estimated each BlueBird satellite can generate roughly 100 kilowatts of power, or 100-120 kilowatts including a solar-tail addition CatSE has diligenced, and floated the idea that BlueBirds could host AI compute/data-center capability in space as the 'quarterback' of a Golden Dome system, since ground-based AI processing could be knocked out by an attack while autonomous, space-based compute would remain available.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:01:39

    Anpanman said he is optimistic AST will win a Golden Dome contract, expecting to find out 'probably in the next month or two,' noting the government will likely want to see 1-2 Block 2 satellites de-risked and operating before making further commitments, and that the scale of the company's spending and capital raises suggests management feels confident.

Manufacturing operations

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  • Anpanman Untagged 01:05:37

    Anpanman said AST has two manufacturing spaces — Odessa (main facility, believed to handle final assembly) and Midland — and that he and Kook had planned a facility tour that never came together; he jokingly invited Scott Wisniewski to arrange one.

  • CatSE Confirmed 01:06:17

    CatSE described the Odessa site as having several buildings: subsystem-to-control-set assembly happens in one of the larger buildings, smaller subsystem assembly happens in other buildings, and the thermal-vacuum/vibration 'shake and bake' testing is also done on-site (rather than at a third-party facility), which saves roughly a couple of weeks in the process before shipping to the launch provider.

Community gestures and Abel Avellan's ownership

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  • Anpanman Untagged 01:07:54

    Anpanman explained he sent 26 bottles of Veuve Clicquot champagne to Midland ahead of the launch as a thank-you to employees working shifts to build the satellites, inspired by having once sent 33 bottles of champagne to celebrate a prior investment (a company called 3PAR that was the subject of a bidding war between Dell and HP, rising from about $18 to $33/share); he noted he'd previously asked the company about sending a food truck to Midland but there were security/logistics concerns.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 01:14:32

    Anpanman said Abel Avellan holds 78 million Class C shares, worth approximately $6.7 billion as of the episode date, and has never sold a single share since the company went public over 5 years ago; he noted this year's proxy shows Avellan taking some stock awards for the first time, which Anpanman views as a positive step that will eventually let him sell some shares.

Spectrum strategy, network capacity, and coverage evolution

4
  • CatSE Speculation 00:37:14

    CatSE explained that once AST has enough satellites up, it could choose to narrow the field of view to concentrate power on smaller footprints and create smaller cells (versus the wide field of view needed for continuous coverage with fewer satellites), increasing area spectral efficiency; another way to increase throughput is launching additional shells operating in other cellular bands.

  • CatSE Company Guidance 00:38:40

    CatSE said Block 3 BlueBirds operating in L-band and S-band are expected to have roughly 10,000 cells covering the planet, versus Block 2 having roughly one-fourth of that.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:41:47

    Anpanman explained Block 2 (launching this evening) focuses on low-band cellular spectrum to fill coverage gaps where no terrestrial MNO signal exists, while the future mid-band Block 3 shell will provide 100% nationwide coverage that overlaps with terrestrial networks (roughly 1.5 GHz to 2.5-2.6 GHz), enabling use cases beyond phones such as autonomous vehicles, drones, and IoT, potentially in partnership with AT&T/Verizon or other companies outside the MNO relationships.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:36:31

    Anpanman said once the constellation grows — similar to Starlink Direct-to-Cell's evolution from intermittent service at launch to more robust coverage around 650 satellites — AST's service should become pretty good around 60 satellites and pretty seamless/fulsome in the US once it reaches around 100 satellites.

Live launch coverage: LVM3-M6 ascent, stage separation, and satellite deployment

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  • CatSE Confirmed 01:29:18

    CatSE narrated the launch sequence live: confirmation of S-200 solid rocket booster separation at roughly 160 seconds into flight (altitude ~104 km), heat-shield separation confirmed shortly after (~123 km altitude), and successful third/final-stage ignition — noting the crowd's visible relief once the final stage ignited since the riskiest parts of the flight were complete, with roughly 10 minutes still to wait before satellite separation from the upper stage.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 01:38:37

    Anpanman confirmed the satellite successfully separated from the LVM3 upper stage during the live broadcast, calling it a historic branding moment for India's space program (ISRO) and noting AST recently partnered with Vodafone Idea (VI) in India, positioning this launch as the first step toward Indian commercial service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 02:21:42

    Anpanman said this may have been ISRO's 100th launch, and noted AST opened an office in Hyderabad, India; the panel speculated that having ISRO launch AST's first Block 2 satellite could help ease regulatory approvals in India (contrasted with the long approval timeline Starlink faced there).

  • Anpanman Speculation 02:23:21

    Anpanman noted a structural advantage versus Starlink/Kuiper: AST's data is not stored by AST itself since it's complementary infrastructure for MNOs, meaning Indian regulatory/bureaucratic approval burdens fall on the local MNO partners (e.g., Reliance, Airtel, Vodafone Idea) rather than on AST as a foreign entity, unlike Starlink which must gain trust as a non-domestic operator.

Audience Q&A: M&A speculation, funding outlook, and future milestones

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  • Speaker P Untagged 02:25:35

    An audience caller asked the panel for their thoughts on a potential merger between AST SpaceMobile and Rocket Lab if Rocket Lab's Neutron rocket goes live.

  • Anpanman Speculation 02:26:14

    Anpanman said he doesn't think Abel Avellan is a seller, and that combining two highly entrepreneurial founder-CEOs would likely create organizational/cultural friction; he said a Rocket Lab-ULA merger would make more sense given ULA's flight heritage and lack of a current CEO, and that if AST were ever acquired, a neutral strategic buyer already serving MNOs like Google or Apple would be a better fit than Amazon (whose Kuiper/fixed-wireless business competes with MNOs).

  • Anpanman Speculation 02:30:07

    Anpanman said he doesn't see AST as an acquisitive company generally, aside from spectrum deals like the January 2025 Ligado spectrum agreement, which some questioned at the time as straying from the mission but which he views as securing valuable long-term strategic optionality (reinforced when SpaceX later bought EchoStar's spectrum).

  • Lamello Untagged 02:48:06

    Lamello asked whether there's any scenario where AST is forced into another equity offering in 2026, or whether the company is well funded with roughly $3 billion of cash on hand.

  • Anpanman Speculation 02:49:07

    Anpanman said he doesn't foresee AST being forced to raise money, given more than $3 billion of pro forma liquidity (including the remaining ATM capacity) plus incoming military contract revenue, commercial prepayments, and non-dilutive funding sources like Import-Export Bank financing; however, he wouldn't be surprised by another opportunistic raise in 2026 if additional accretive opportunities arise (as happened with the >$1 billion October 2025 convertible raise, which management indicated was partly to accelerate production).

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 02:52:17

    Anpanman said the $175 million Saudi Telecom (stc) prepayment is expected to hit AST's balance sheet by the end of this year.

  • Lamello Untagged 02:52:45

    Lamello asked whether AST has given guidance on when it will reach the roughly 90 satellites needed for full worldwide connectivity capacity, beyond the 45-60 satellites targeted for end of 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 02:52:45

    Anpanman said the company hasn't given explicit guidance on reaching 90 satellites, but extrapolating from the 60-by-end-of-2026 target and assuming strong production and New Glenn cadence, he'd estimate roughly the middle to end of Q2 of the following year; he added that Scott Wisniewski has talked about beginning to launch mid-band BlueBirds around the end of 2026.

  • ASDSFSD Untagged 02:36:11

    An audience member (ASDSFSD) asked how AST would reach 45-60 satellites in 2026 given roughly 45 days between launches on average, questioning whether a new manufacturing plant needs to come online to hit that pace even with 3-satellite Falcon 9 payloads.

  • Anpanman Speculation 02:37:32

    Anpanman said AST has booked extra Falcon 9 launches as a contingency in case New Glenn can't meet its expected cadence, with launch capacity booked for north of 70 satellites this year; he speculated BlueBird 7 has a decent chance of flying on Blue Origin's New Glenn in January 2026, since New Glenn's original payload (the Blue Moon lunar lander) may not be ready until March and New Glenn needs 4 successful launches to be certified for government work.

  • Anpanman Speculation 02:40:14

    Anpanman estimated New Glenn's per-launch cost at roughly $80 million to $100 million (versus Falcon 9's roughly $60-70 million), which on a per-satellite basis works out to roughly $21-23 million per satellite fully baked.

Community reflections and market outlook

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 01:54:14

    Anpanman recapped AST's 'valley of death' narrative: the company had to slow development and conserve cash after funding markets shut in 2022, made it through to a January 2024 financing with AT&T, Vodafone, and Google, and had to do a painful bridge equity offering selling roughly 33 million shares at $3.50 apiece before Verizon joined at the end of May 2024, after which the stock rose from roughly $2 to a peak of $39 that summer.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:50:41

    Anpanman projected AST could reach or breach roughly $200 a share sometime in 2026, potentially earlier than year-end, citing macro tailwinds of tamed inflation, falling interest rates, and the Trump administration's stated focus on space and 6G superiority; he added this year's revenue is expected to be mostly government-related, growing to hundreds of millions, with commercial revenue kicking in more meaningfully next year as the constellation and initial markets turn on.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:53:02

    Anpanman said he expects the SpaceX IPO to bring significant additional investor interest and capital into the broader space sector in 2026.

  • Amit Untagged 02:04:30

    A community member, Amit, shared that he started investing in AST when it was still the NPA SPAC, cycled through profits and losses and lost confidence at times, but ultimately put a significant portion of his net worth in roughly a year to a year and a half before the episode and is now up almost 3x, having held through a pullback from $102 back to $50 without selling.

  • Amit Untagged 02:09:50

    Amit asked whether AST's mention of an agreement with a 'Singapore Defence Corporation' in a recent presentation had been previously disclosed via investor relations.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 02:10:11

    Anpanman responded that AST did put out a PR (he believes over the summer, possibly just a tweet) about the Singapore item, and characterized the company as generally press-shy — only issuing PR for major news — meaning smaller announcements can get lost.

  • Thomas Untagged 03:01:00

    A community member, Thomas, described randomly encountering Abel Avellan outside AST's Midland facility, briefly introducing himself and shaking his hand; he and other panelists described Avellan as down-to-earth, friendly, and approachable in person.

  • Anpanman Untagged 03:04:09

    Anpanman shared that after meeting Abel Avellan for about an hour at a conference in New York in 2023, he came away impressed by Avellan's total confidence in AST's ability to secure funding and execute, describing him as someone focused entirely on execution rather than minutiae.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 03:07:05

    Anpanman noted that Bloomberg published an article with the headline 'AST SpaceMobile launches biggest satellite to challenge SpaceX,' and mentioned that several SpaceMob members have been speaking with the journalist, raising the possibility of a future article specifically about the SpaceMob community.

Watch Items10

  • BlueBird 7 launch (next satellite after BB6)

    Roughly 30 days after shipment; Anpanman estimated probably late January 2026, on either Falcon 9 or possibly Blue Origin New Glenn Anpanman 00:32:00
  • Two Falcon 9 launches carrying 3 BlueBirds each

    Probably February 2026 Anpanman 00:05:20
  • Blue Origin New Glenn BlueBird launches ramping to 6, then ~8 satellites per launch

    Over the course of 2026 Anpanman 00:05:20
  • FCC decision on AST's US market/SCS license modification application

    Sometime in January, potentially early February 2026 Anpanman 01:47:00
  • Saudi Telecom (stc) $175 million prepayment recognized on balance sheet

    By the end of 2025 (stated as 'ending in 8 days' from the episode) Anpanman 02:52:17
  • Possible additional Middle Eastern MNO definitive agreement

    Possibly January 2026 (described as speculation) Anpanman 01:01:39
  • AT&T/FirstNet definitive commercial agreement

    Described as 'coming sooner or later,' following recent FirstNet demo videos and hints of more program updates Anpanman 01:47:00
  • Golden Dome contract award decision

    Anpanman's estimate: probably within the next month or two from the episode Anpanman 01:01:39
  • Mid-band Block 3 BlueBird launches begin

    End of 2026, per Scott Wisniewski as relayed by Anpanman Anpanman 02:53:49
  • Constellation reaching roughly 90 satellites (full worldwide connectivity capacity)

    Anpanman's extrapolated guess: roughly mid-to-end Q2 of the year following 2026 (i.e., 2027), not formally guided by the company Anpanman 02:52:45

Open Questions7

  • Can Blue Origin's New Glenn actually meet its planned 2026 cadence (ramping from an initial 6 satellites per launch up to 8), or will AST need to lean more heavily on its overbooked Falcon 9 contingency launches?

    Anpanman 02:37:32
  • Will BlueBird 7 actually fly on Blue Origin's New Glenn in January 2026, given New Glenn's original Blue Moon lunar-lander payload may not be ready until March?

    Anpanman 02:39:46
  • Will AST need to raise additional capital in 2026, or is roughly $3 billion of liquidity plus incoming government/commercial revenue sufficient to fund the buildout?

    Lamello 02:48:06
  • Will AST build a dedicated third 'government shell' of satellites specifically for Golden Dome/defense use cases, beyond the planned low-band and mid-band commercial shells?

    Anpanman 00:56:50
  • Could AST SpaceMobile ever be involved in hosting AI compute/data-center capability in space as part of a Golden Dome architecture, given each satellite's estimated 100-120 kilowatts of power generation?

    Anpanman 00:56:50
  • Is a merger between AST SpaceMobile and Rocket Lab (if Neutron goes live) plausible, or would founder-culture conflicts make such a deal unworkable?

    Speaker P 02:25:35
  • When exactly did AST disclose (and via what channel) its agreement with a 'Singapore Defence Corporation,' since it wasn't clearly communicated through formal investor relations channels?

    Amit 02:09:50
2025-12-22 2:02:04

Anpanman - Let's hear your AST SpaceMobile story

Anpanman · Justin · Nick Brown · RMA (Army) · Farm Daz · Corey · William · Just Another Nurse · Jagaloon · Dog Days · Endless · Johnny Bangs · Kevin · Piranha

This is a Sunday-evening AST SpaceMobile X Space hosted solo by Anpanman, with Kook traveling internationally, recorded the night before the BlueBird 6 launch. Anpanman gives quick company updates and then invites more than a dozen SpaceMob community members up to share their personal ASTS investing stories.

The episode covers the upcoming BlueBird 6 launch (Dec 23, 2025) and BlueBird 7's shipment to Cape Canaveral. But the bulk of the runtime is investor testimonials about discovering ASTS, riding out the 2021-2022 drawdown and 2024 dilution, and building outsized wealth.

The episode is capped by a lengthy bull-case/valuation discussion from guest "Endless" comparing AST to SpaceX/Starlink.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman hosted this space solo and earlier than usual because co-host Kook was traveling internationally and not doing his usual space that night.
  • BlueBird 6 (FM1) was scheduled to launch Tuesday, December 23, 2025 at 10:24 PM Eastern on an ISRO LVM-3 rocket (M6 mission) from India, with a joint SpaceMob space featuring Anpanman, Kook, Katsy, Tut and others starting 1-2 hours ahead of the launch.
  • BlueBird 7 was shipped to Cape Canaveral around December 20-21, 2025; Anpanman speculated it could fly on a Falcon 9 rideshare or possibly on Blue Origin's second New Glenn launch, guessing a late-January to early-February 2026 launch window.
  • Anpanman said hints from a recent production update suggest AST may now be building roughly 6 satellites per month, and expected another batch of BlueBirds to ship to Cape Canaveral within the week or two.
  • The episode is largely a community storytelling roundtable: over a dozen SpaceMob members (including firefighters, pharmacists, physicians, nurses, an engineer, and a private-equity professional) shared how they found ASTS, often describing heavy leverage (credit card debt, 401(k)/457 loans), losses during the 2021-2022 drawdown and the January 2024 dilution, and later life-changing gains after the AT&T and Verizon commercial agreements.
  • Guest "Endless," a private-equity professional who has facilitated SpaceX secondary-market transactions, argued AST's roughly $22-25 billion market cap should be viewed as a valuation floor, comparing it to Elon Musk/SpaceX's reported ~$22 billion acquisition of EchoStar spectrum, and speculated AST could trade toward $150-250 per share if a FirstNet contract and US commercial service launch materialize in the next 6-9 months.
  • Endless speculated that SpaceX's Starlink business (which he said didn't become commercial until 2021, two years after its first satellite) could be worth roughly $1 trillion (about 65% of a rumored ~$1.5 trillion SpaceX valuation) around a speculated June/July 2026 SpaceX IPO, and argued AST could scale subscribers even faster than Starlink once its AT&T, Verizon, and Vodafone/Europe partnerships are switched on.
  • Several guests are healthcare professionals (pharmacists, physicians, nurses), which Anpanman noted as a recurring pattern among the community.
  • Anpanman closed the show noting the stock was already trading around $80 overnight, said he expects notable MNO-related news in January 2026, and called 2026 a potentially pivotal year for the company given the approach of commercial service.

Detailed Discussion14 topics

Housekeeping and Upcoming Launch Logistics

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Anpanman explained he is hosting this space solo and earlier than usual because Kook is traveling internationally and won't be hosting his regular space tonight; since it's the end of the year, he wanted the community to get together and share stories.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:01:20

    BlueBird 6 will launch this coming Tuesday, December 23rd at 10:24 PM (Eastern), out of India on an ISRO LVM-3 rocket, believed to be the M6 mission; a joint space with Katsy, Kook, Tut and others will start 1-2 hours ahead of the launch.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:01:20

    Anpanman continued the community tradition of drinking a Dr Pepper to celebrate milestones, in memory of Steve Larson (an early, well-known community member) who passed away in 2023 and was known for loving Dr Pepper.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:01:20

    BlueBird 7 (BB7) was disclosed as shipped (with pictures) toward Cape Canaveral either today or yesterday; Anpanman guessed it would arrive at the Cape by Monday or Tuesday.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:01:20

    Anpanman speculated BB7 is most likely to fly as a Falcon 9 rideshare based on FCC filings, but floated a real possibility it could instead fly on the next Blue Origin New Glenn launch (New Glenn's second attempted booster landing), which would generate significant press attention; seating for a community viewing trip would likely be much harder to get if it flies on New Glenn.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:51

    Given BB7's late shipment to the Cape, Anpanman estimated an earliest launch in late January 2026, but said his best guess would be early February 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:51

    Anpanman said a recent production update, combined with community math, hints that AST may now be producing satellites at a rate of about 6 per month, and guessed another batch of BlueBirds could be shipped to Cape Canaveral as soon as this week or next; he noted Scott Wisniewski tweeted a meme of Santa Claus driving the AST truck to Cape Canaveral, hinting at more news that week.

Justin's Story

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  • Justin Untagged 00:08:17

    A software engineer (studied computer engineering) who learned about AST around 2021, shortly after the SPAC merger closed, through a roommate's friend in private-equity telecom; his initial reaction was skepticism ("cell towers in space, no way this is going to work"), but he bought a few hundred shares anyway based on trusting others' due diligence.

  • Justin Untagged 00:09:00

    Justin described having an "epiphany" a few years later at a concert, realizing AST's BlueWalker 3 had made a successful connection and the technology worked, which de-risked his thesis and led him to buy shares aggressively.

  • Justin Untagged 00:12:46

    Justin said he has a group chat of about 20 friends locally whom he has gotten into ASTS shares by sharing news with them.

Nick Brown's Story

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  • Nick Brown Untagged 00:13:54

    A firefighter in Seattle who got into investing during COVID, discovered ASTS through podcasts and Reddit around 2021 as an "amazing binary play," and dove deep into research.

  • Nick Brown Untagged 00:16:23

    In 2021, while supposed to be paying for his wedding, Nick paid vendors with credit cards and put his spare cash into ASTS shares instead; he later took a $50,000 loan out of his 457 retirement account (in addition to other cash) to invest further, despite restrictions on single-stock trading in his self-directed Schwab 457.

  • Nick Brown Confirmed 00:17:57

    Nick and Anpanman recalled the January 2024 announcement of the AT&T/Vodafone/Google strategic investment, which briefly spiked the stock to about $5.66, followed almost immediately by news of a $100 million equity raise that sent the stock down to roughly $3 -- one of the biggest 'gut punches' of his investing life; he recalled Kook posting on Twitter around that time asking the community whether he should keep going.

  • Nick Brown Untagged 00:19:18

    Nick said things turned around after AT&T's definitive commercial agreement following an earnings call; he has since gone from over-leveraged and stressed to a multimillionaire. He said his fire-department lieutenant has made about $40,000, his father is now a millionaire, and his brother -- who bought about 12,000 shares -- is close to a millionaire.

RMA ("Army")'s Story

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  • RMA (Army) Speculation 00:24:14

    A longtime investor since the 1990s, formerly active on StockTwits as "Investor777"; previously invested in SPCE (Virgin Galactic) but became disillusioned, alleging Chamath Palihapitiya and Richard Branson were manipulating that stock; also previously invested in Redwire and Planet Labs before being drawn to ASTS.

  • RMA (Army) Untagged 00:26:19

    He initially shorted AST's pre-merger SPAC (NPA) partly out of moral objection to inappropriate content some StockTwits users were posting, then reversed course after doing his own due diligence and following Anpanman, Kook, and Katsy.

  • RMA (Army) Untagged 00:28:09

    He went all-in on ASTS around $3.60 and kept buying down to about $2.30, claiming that at one point he held more ASTS shares than Goldman Sachs.

  • RMA (Army) Untagged 00:30:04

    He said he has sold puts against ASTS for several years, including selling $75 puts around a stock price of roughly $67 the prior Thursday.

  • RMA (Army) Confirmed 00:29:44

    He said he personally asked Abel Avellan a question at a company quarterly earnings call about Avellan's vision for connecting people around the globe.

Farm Daz (PharmD Arizona)'s Story

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  • Farm Daz Untagged 00:34:47

    A clinical pharmacist specializing in geriatric medicine who previously traded biotech stocks (including Viking Therapeutics) and lost money chasing momentum in AMC and GameStop ("GME 2.0") in 2021.

  • Farm Daz Confirmed 00:35:36

    He first heard about ASTS from a friend but dismissed it early on citing Starlink competition; after watching the stock run he bought his first shares around $36, then averaged down heavily as the price fell toward the stock's roughly $18 low.

  • Farm Daz Untagged 00:36:44

    After a bet with a friend that the stock would finish green one day, he got an AST SpaceMobile satellite tattoo on his leg when the stock finished green (he recalled it closing just over $50-something that day).

Corey's Story

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  • Corey Untagged 00:40:56

    A self-described WallStreetBets "degen" who lost about $40,000 in Bed Bath & Beyond and maxed out roughly $60,000 in credit cards (about $3,000/month in payments) to buy 3 Bitcoin starting in April 2022; Bitcoin then crashed to around $15,000 (per-coin price, June 2022) while he was still making the loan payments.

  • Corey Confirmed 00:44:08

    He discovered ASTS via a WallStreetBets meme referencing the movie Interstellar around the time AST was preparing to launch BlueWalker 3; he bought 2,500 shares around $10, then sold that position after the stock tanked following the launch and again after the April 2024 business-update delay announcement, when Anpanman posted an apology about the loss.

  • Corey Untagged 00:45:32

    After his Bitcoin position eventually recovered and got stopped out, Corey moved that money into ASTS, buying back in around $2.50 per share, and has held since, calling it a once-in-a-lifetime stock.

William's Story

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  • William Untagged 00:50:26

    An early-career physician who previously put savings into Tesla during medical school before switching to AST during the SPAC mania after graduating.

  • William Untagged 00:51:44

    He bought near the roughly $2 low during the busiest, most demanding stretch of his medical training, which ironically meant he wasn't checking his account; he later rolled positions from warrants into common stock and LEAPS.

  • William Untagged 00:52:53

    His account is now over $1 million, which gave him the flexibility to change jobs a month or two before the episode; he also got a few family members to buy around $6 before the stock dropped to $2, and they held and are now "vindicated."

Just Another Nurse's Story

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  • Just Another Nurse Untagged 00:57:23

    A nurse who attended space camp as a kid; got into options trading around COVID and shorted SPY right before the crash, but held the position too long and gave back gains as the Fed pivoted.

  • Just Another Nurse Untagged 00:58:44

    During the 2022 SPAC craze he chose three space stocks -- Rocket Lab, Astra, and AST -- and initially lost money on short-dated AST call options that bled away amid dilution, leading him to capitulate.

  • Just Another Nurse Untagged 00:59:31

    He restarted a position near the roughly $2 low after rolling a 401(k) into an IRA, buying longer-dated (9-12 month) $5 call options for 5-10 cents each, then rolling gains up through $10, $20 and $40 strike calls, which he says has produced generational wealth.

  • Just Another Nurse Untagged 01:00:36

    He credited Anpanman's on-air explanation of a convertible bond offering with shifting his mindset from resenting dilution to embracing it as a positive financing step, and credited Anpanman's advice about taking some profits along the way for letting him de-risk into other investments while remaining heavily long overall.

Jagaloon's Story

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  • Jagaloon Untagged 01:05:39

    A physician currently in residency training who got involved during the 2020 SPAC craze and created a due-diligence document that he shared with his residency friends, describing AST as a once-in-a-decade opportunity.

  • Jagaloon Confirmed 01:07:40

    He held through the difficult 2022 interest-rate-hike drawdown despite feeling personally responsible for friends he had pitched, and doubled down heavily with saved capital around the time of the Verizon commercial agreement announcement, which he called a seminal event.

  • Jagaloon Speculation 01:09:03

    He noted there were still a surprising number of bears even after the Verizon news, referencing a critic he and Anpanman called "Pivotal Capital" whom Anpanman described as a "fake doctor."

Dog Days's Story

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  • Dog Days Untagged 01:13:33

    An older investor who spent 30 years in worldwide manufacturing/operations planning for a major Silicon Valley-associated company, then started his own fine-art aluminum printing business in 2007.

  • Dog Days Untagged 01:14:16

    He began buying into the pre-merger NPA SPAC around June 2021 and followed the late Steve Larson's commentary closely, along with Anpanman and Katsy.

  • Dog Days Untagged 01:16:31

    He bought shares repeatedly on the way down (around $11, $10, $8, $7, $6, $5, $4, $3) until he ran out of money to invest, and converted about 40,000 shares from a traditional IRA into a Roth IRA in late 2023/early 2024, with an average cost basis around $3.14/share, to manage the tax impact.

  • Dog Days Untagged 01:18:12

    His total invested savings had fallen to about $80,000 at the low point, then grew to roughly $1.5 million within about 4-6 months of the turnaround; he later also invested his wife's entire 401(k) (she was an ER nurse) into ASTS, and the couple is now 100% invested in the stock.

  • Dog Days Untagged 01:17:20

    His wife only learned about the investment when she attended a BlueBird satellite launch event with him and was impressed by the turnout and energy, at which point he told her the full story.

  • Dog Days Untagged 01:21:36

    He recently sold some of his tax-advantaged Roth shares (4,148 shares) to help fund a down payment, due around April 1, on a retirement home being built in Arizona, and is targeting roughly $150,000 in proceeds from that sale.

Endless's Story and SpaceX/AST Valuation Thesis

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  • Endless Untagged 01:24:56

    Has spent 20 years in finance, the past 7-8 years in private equity handling secondary transactions for major venture-backed "unicorn" companies, including facilitating purchases from major SpaceX shareholders for his clients; also a longtime options day trader who made "a couple million dollars" on Rocket Lab call options.

  • Endless Speculation 01:26:36

    He said he started taking AST seriously after a chance summer-2024 dinner with a member of the Texas State Investment Committee (who oversees roughly $1 billion/year of state aerospace investment), who told him AST's technology 'works' and is legitimate.

  • Endless Speculation 01:30:36

    He argued Starlink didn't become a commercial services business until 2021 -- two years after its 2019 first satellite launch -- yet Starlink is estimated to represent roughly 65% of SpaceX's value, with SpaceX rumored to be worth about $1 trillion (implying an overall SpaceX valuation of roughly $1.5 trillion) around a speculated IPO in June or July 2026; he argued AST could scale its subscriber base even faster than Starlink given its existing MNO partnerships.

  • Endless Speculation 01:37:11

    He estimated roughly 7-8 million ASTS shares are held short due to convertible-note-related hedging, plus another roughly 28 million shares held short speculatively.

  • Endless Speculation 01:43:34

    He argued that AST's roughly $22-25 billion market cap should be viewed as a valuation floor, drawing a comparison to what he described as Elon Musk/SpaceX paying roughly $22 billion for EchoStar spectrum.

  • Endless Speculation 01:38:44

    He speculated ASTS could trade to roughly $150-250 per share in the near term, and framed a path toward a valuation on par with SpaceX's rumored ~$1.5 trillion IPO (about a 3.75x multiple on AST's current roughly $24 billion market cap) if a FirstNet contract and US commercial service both materialize within the next 6-9 months.

  • Endless Speculation 01:42:58

    Citing conversations with Kook, he estimated the FirstNet opportunity at roughly $15-20 billion and Verizon's 'Frontline' opportunity at roughly $10 billion, among other potential revenue levers (government, first-responder, defense, international MNOs).

  • Endless Speculation 01:40:36

    He compared Starlink's roughly 8 million subscribers gained over about 4-5 years of commercial service to AST's potential to add a comparable subscriber base almost instantly once AT&T, Verizon, and Vodafone/Europe service is switched on across their existing subscriber bases.

Johnny Bangs's Story

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  • Johnny Bangs Untagged 01:45:44

    A pharmacist who invested on the day of the de-SPAC close, getting caught up in the broader SPAC craze; he held through the 2021-2022 sell-off, buying LEAPS in the $2-4 range.

  • Johnny Bangs Confirmed 01:47:22

    He was down roughly $200,000 (about 80%) at one point; after the AT&T news he sold a small amount following an initial 70-80% one-day pop, expecting a pullback that never came, then bought back in after the subsequent Verizon news and hasn't looked back.

  • Johnny Bangs Untagged 01:48:50

    When his wife left her job to stay home with their kids, she gave him her roughly $20,000-$25,000 life savings while the stock was around $3, which he put into LEAPS.

  • Johnny Bangs Untagged 01:50:05

    His first child was born the week of the BlueWalker 3 launch (September 2022), and he and his wife have a third child due in April 2026.

Kevin's Story and Deorbiting/Sustainability Question

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  • Kevin Untagged 01:53:07

    A water resources engineer based in Portland, Oregon, who joined the AST community via X/Twitter.

  • Kevin Untagged 01:53:56

    He asked Scott Wisniewski a question during the Q3 earnings call about whether AST would continue holding community get-togethers at future launches, but did not get a specific answer.

  • Kevin Speculation 01:54:32

    As an engineer interested in the environmental side of the industry, he raised the issue of aluminum oxide byproducts from deorbiting satellites, noting he had heard from Katsy that AST uses more Invar than aluminum, which he hopes means AST produces less oxide during deorbiting than other companies deorbiting thousands of satellites (an apparent reference to Starlink).

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:54:49

    Anpanman said he has thought about whether reusable-rocket upper stages could eventually be recovered instead of letting satellites burn up in the atmosphere, though he noted this would require additional fuel for a landing burn; he agreed deorbiting sustainability is a bigger issue at the scale of tens of thousands of satellites than a few hundred.

Closing Remarks

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  • Piranha Untagged 01:56:03

    Piranha closed out the space, thanking Anpanman for hosting and for helping bring the SpaceMob community together.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:57:17

    Anpanman recapped that the joint launch space will start 1-2 hours ahead of the 10:24 PM ET BlueBird 6 launch on Tuesday, with himself, Kook, Tut, Katsy and others participating, and said a PR announcing FM2's arrival in Florida could come as soon as the next day or by Tuesday/Wednesday.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:57:17

    Anpanman speculated, based on due diligence rather than confirmed information, that the community is likely to see the first batch of composite BlueBirds shipped to Florida either before year-end or in early January, and expects some significant MNO-related news in January.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:57:17

    Anpanman cited a favorable macro backdrop -- the Fed reportedly injecting about $8 billion of liquidity, interest rates likely continuing to decline as inflation cools, and falling oil prices -- combined with the current U.S. administration's focus on space as an area of competition with China, as reasons he expects 2026 to be a strong year for AST SpaceMobile and other space companies.

  • Anpanman Untagged 01:57:17

    Anpanman noted the stock was already trading around $80 overnight as the space wrapped up.

Watch Items8

  • BlueBird 6 (FM1) launch on an ISRO LVM-3 rocket (M6 mission) from India

    Tuesday, December 23, 2025 at 10:24 PM Eastern Anpanman 00:01:20
  • Joint SpaceMob space covering the BlueBird 6 launch, with Anpanman, Kook, Tut, Katsy and others

    Starting 1-2 hours ahead of the 10:24 PM ET Dec 23 launch Anpanman 00:01:20
  • BlueBird 7 launch, likely a Falcon 9 rideshare or possibly a Blue Origin New Glenn mission

    Anpanman's guess: late January 2026 at earliest, more likely early February 2026 Anpanman 00:04:51
  • Possible PR confirming FM2's arrival in Florida

    As soon as the next day, or by Tuesday/Wednesday (i.e., around Dec 23-24, 2025) Anpanman 01:57:17
  • First batch of composite BlueBirds shipped to Florida

    Before year-end 2025 or early January 2026 (speculative) Anpanman 01:57:17
  • Expected significant MNO-related news

    January 2026 (speculative) Anpanman 01:57:17
  • Possible SpaceMob community meetup at Cape Canaveral around the next BlueBird launch

    End of January to first week of February 2026 (Anpanman's guess) Anpanman 00:23:15
  • Speculated SpaceX IPO

    June or July 2026 (Endless's speculation, tied to Elon Musk's June 28 birthday) Endless 01:39:16

Open Questions4

  • Which rocket will BlueBird 7 launch on -- a dedicated Falcon 9, a Falcon 9 rideshare, or Blue Origin's second New Glenn mission?

    Anpanman 00:01:20
  • Will community members be able to get seats/access if BlueBird 7 launches on the high-demand New Glenn mission?

    Anpanman 00:01:20
  • Will AST continue hosting community get-togethers at future satellite launches? (Kevin asked Scott Wisniewski this on the Q3 earnings call but did not get a specific answer.)

    Kevin 01:53:56
  • Does AST's use of Invar (versus aluminum) in satellite construction meaningfully reduce aluminum oxide byproducts during deorbiting compared to competitors deorbiting large satellite fleets?

    Kevin 01:54:32
2025-12-21 29:12

Kook's Weekly - December 21

Kook

Kook hosted a spontaneous, solo 'Kook's Weekly' X Spaces on Sunday, December 21, 2025, while traveling in Australia. He did it explicitly to keep his weekly-Spaces streak alive and to spite short sellers.

He covers AST SpaceMobile's imminent FM-1 (BlueBird 6) launch from India, the December 18 NDAA signing that writes Golden Dome into federal law, and a stack of Golden Dome/FirstNet contract speculation. He also covers Jennifer Manor's congressional testimony on satellite production and his product-roadmap/unit-economics thesis.

His headline conclusion is bullish: he believes AST is entering a high-catalyst period (launches, Golden Dome news, possible press releases) that could push shares well above $100 near-term and toward $500-$1,000+ longer-term.

He publicly stakes his account's existence on ASTS eventually winning both Golden Dome and FirstNet contracts.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook held a spontaneous, solo 'Kook's Weekly' X Spaces on Sunday, December 21, 2025, while traveling in Australia, explicitly to keep his weekly-Spaces streak alive and to spite short sellers who assumed he had stopped.
  • FM-1 (BlueBird 6), AST's first Block 2 satellite, is set to launch from India on an ISRO rocket; Kook says the launch has now been officially announced, citing a time of December 23 at 10:24 PM Eastern (roughly December 24 locally for him), while admitting uncertainty about the exact timezone conversion.
  • Kook argues FM-1's key achievement is not a manufacturing breakthrough but a mechanical 'bigger bus' design that simplified antenna unfurling, and since the hardest part (the first 'control sat') is done, he expects subsequent satellites to face fewer delays.
  • Kook claims AST has reached a production throughput of 6 satellites per month, which he believes implies a backlog of finished satellites awaiting launch that could soon be relieved by upcoming SpaceX and Blue Origin launches.
  • Trump signed the NDAA on December 18, 2025, writing Golden Dome into federal law; Kook compares this government-driven tailwind to historic examples like Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac housing subsidies, China's WTO entry, and the Inflation Reduction Act, arguing such moves create underappreciated multi-year investment opportunities.
  • Kook publicly stakes his account's identity on two outcomes: he says he will delete his X account and the Kook Report if ASTS does not win a Golden Dome contract, and would symbolically do the same if AST does not win a FirstNet contract — which he considers effectively guaranteed given AST's dedicated Band 14 spectrum and existing FCC testing documentation.
  • AST SpaceMobile SVP Jennifer Manor testified before a congressional subcommittee that the company is manufacturing '6 satellites' and said 'per day'; Kook and others believe this was a misstatement of the company's actual 6-satellites-per-month production milestone.
  • Kook speculates that Scott Wisniewski may be deliberately holding back a major press release combining FM-1's launch, FM-2's shipment, and proof of the 6-satellites-per-month production rate, which Kook believes could push the stock meaningfully above $100.
  • Kook discusses a product roadmap beyond the current low-band ASIC BlueBirds — including upcoming mid-band BlueBirds and unspecified additional satellite types possibly tied to Golden Dome (speculatively 'Powerbirds,' 'radar birds,' or repurposed 5G satellites) — projecting a build cadence of at least 72 satellites per year even beyond communications needs.
  • Kook estimates that if per-satellite unit economics are strongly positive (a claim he says is unproven but plausible from rough calculations in his DD doc), continued reinvestment in satellite production could be a positive-NPV growth strategy supporting a share price of $500-$1,000+ if AST's constellation expands well beyond the currently authorized 243 satellites.
  • Kook cites China's 'Qianfan'/'Thousand Sails' LEO satellite constellation as a competitive pressure that he believes is accelerating US government urgency — including Golden Dome — to invest in space capabilities, which he views as beneficial to companies like AST SpaceMobile.
  • Kook references a Quilty Space research note observing that companies currently named in early missile-defense-shield work are mostly helping the government figure out how Golden Dome should work (simulations, sensors, software) rather than being the eventual builders of finished systems, implying bigger names — potentially including AST — could be named later.
  • Kook flags near-term catalysts to watch: the ISRO FM-1 launch, a Saudi Telecom (stc) prepayment he expects around December 31, 2025, a likely Blue Origin launch of BB-7/FM-2, possible FCC approval of AST's SCS/direct-to-cell coverage application, and an expected batch of roughly 2-3 satellites per SpaceX launch.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Housekeeping and Format

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook says he wasn't planning to do a Spaces but decided to after a critic in the comments accused him of giving up; he is traveling in Australia, just got off a plane, and is doing the Spaces at 3:40 PM local Sunday time specifically to keep his weekly-Spaces streak alive and to spite short sellers he believes assumed he'd stopped.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook notes his schedule will remain ad hoc while he continues traveling, with a return to his normal schedule once he is back home.

FM-1 (BlueBird 6) Launch from India

5
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:27

    FM-1 (BlueBird 6) is set to launch from India; Kook says the company has now officially announced the launch after ISRO briefly announced then pulled its own announcement, which he characterizes as ISRO seemingly trying to preempt AST's own announcement.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:27

    Kook states the launch time, converted to US East Coast time, is December 23rd at 10:24 PM, which he believes translates to roughly December 24th around 4 PM in his own time zone (Australia), while explicitly admitting he isn't sure he has the timezone conversion right.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook argues FM-1 is not primarily a manufacturing/micron-assembly breakthrough, but rather a mechanical breakthrough: a simplified unfurling process with fewer moving parts, enabled by a larger 'bus' design; he says the hard part was completing the first 'control sat,' and that subsequent satellites should not necessarily face the same delays.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook claims the broader constellation production line has reached a throughput of 6 satellites per month, and frames FM-1 as 'the tip' of a much larger upcoming wave of next-generation satellite launches, which he says is where most of the company's value creation will occur.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook notes the ISRO launch vehicle being used has a 100% historical success rate, and separately states 'it is an SDA satellite, so I'd imagine they measured twice before cutting once on this one' — a claim whose exact referent (whether to FM-1 itself or another payload on the mission) is unclear from context.

Golden Dome, the NDAA, and Government Policy Tailwinds

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook references Trump having 'signed into law the Make Space Stocks Go Up law' and calls it a 'Space Superiority Executive Order,' framing it alongside the Golden Dome NDAA signing on December 18th as the kind of government thumb-on-the-scale event that, in hindsight, tends to be a clear and highly profitable investment signal.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook draws historical analogies to government-driven investment megatrends: the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac housing subsidy policy that fueled the housing bubble, China's entry into the WTO (implying a buy signal for copper and oil), and the Inflation Reduction Act (a buy signal for utility stocks) — arguing markets often underreact initially to such signed policy before stocks '2-3x' over the following 1-2 years.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook says he is still studying the Golden Dome NDAA in detail and admits he can't yet clearly articulate all the nuances of how SDA, MDA, and the prime-contractor process work; he credits an account called 'Tough4U' with helping educate him and other Space Mob members on these distinctions.

  • Kook Untagged 00:14:22

    Kook cites a Quilty Space research note stating that the companies publicly named so far in missile-defense-shield discussions are mostly helping the government figure out how Golden Dome should work (simulations, early sensors, software, testing) rather than being finished-system builders, implying the eventual 'big names' will be revealed later.

  • Kook Rumor 00:14:22

    Kook says he has other, unnamed sources who have told him bullish things about ASTS's involvement in Golden Dome; he says he doesn't know if they're right, but based on their track record over roughly four years of observation, he trusts them, and believes 'there is more to come' on Golden Dome.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook says it is unclear whether ASTS has already secured initial Golden Dome-related work as a subcontractor to prime contractors, specifically naming AT&T, L3, and/or Lockheed as possible primes, but says the topic is 'heating up.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook points to a Redrum ('Murder') recap that traces the history of AST's public commentary on Golden Dome, characterizing the tone as having shifted from 'very suggestive and glancing' to 'extremely direct and specific' recently, which he argues is notable given the company's historically conservative guidance policy.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook publicly commits that if ASTS does not get a Golden Dome contract, he will delete his X account and end the Kook Report, calling it his 'ultimatum' to demonstrate his confidence that AST will land a Golden Dome contract.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook discusses an interview with Dr. Gurbartap of the U.S. Space Development Agency (SDA) about the HALO program, in which Gurbartap revealed that two SDA satellites, previously delayed, are about to launch and are testing new waveforms; Kook speculates the new waveforms could be 6G-related technology, spectrum-efficiency technology similar to what Cohere is working on, highly encrypted military waveforms, or other non-communication use cases, and frames this as evidence ASTS is at the bleeding edge of 5G technology with the government closely watching results.

FirstNet

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook states he is fully confident AST will secure a FirstNet contract, citing existing FCC testing documents and spectrum licenses that clearly show dedicated Band 14 spectrum connected to the company's satellite service, calling it a 'done deal.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook says that if AST does not get a FirstNet contract, he will symbolically 'sacrifice his avatar' (though not actually delete his account), underscoring his high confidence level on this specific catalyst.

Manufacturing Rate: Jennifer Manor Congressional Testimony

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook says AST's Jennifer Manor, whom he refers to as senior vice president of regulatory affairs, testified before Congress that the company is manufacturing '6 satellites' but misspoke and said 'per day' when she meant per month; Kook believes this was a genuine misstatement rather than a new, higher production claim.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook notes that Manor spoke about production in the present/contemporary tense without being required to, which he interprets as a subtle signal that a bigger, formal press release on production may be coming from the company.

Anticipated Press Release and DD Doc Update

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook speculates that Scott Wisniewski may be deliberately timing a combined press release to include FM-1's launch, FM-2's shipment, and proof of the 6-satellites-per-month production rate, arguing that showing production cadence alongside shipments would help investors understand the company's earnings leverage and could push the stock 'well above $100.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:22

    Kook says his updated due-diligence (DD) doc contains new estimates of exit-rate EBITDA for 2026 and 2027 with an applied multiple to derive implied share price targets, which he characterizes as conservative on revenue assumptions; he says the doc is complete but he chose to release a Calvin and Hobbes-style cartoon summary/preview first.

Product Roadmap and Unit Economics

5
  • Kook Untagged 00:17:43

    Kook uses Nvidia's historical product roadmap (from graphics chips to AI matrix-processing chips) as an analogy for how investors should think about AST's roadmap beyond its current ASIC BlueBirds, arguing that understanding the roadmap — not just current drama — is critical to valuing the stock.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:43

    Kook lays out AST's roadmap as: ASIC BlueBirds (current low-band constellation), then upcoming mid-band BlueBirds, and then additional, not-yet-defined satellite products that appear tied to Golden Dome — which he speculates could be 'Powerbirds,' 'radar birds,' or repurposed 5G satellites; he says he does not know which.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:43

    Kook projects that this expanded product line implies a satellite production cadence of at least 72 satellites per year, even once the core communications constellation no longer requires that pace.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:43

    Kook says the actual unit economics of an individual satellite are unknown, but rough calculations in his DD doc suggest they are very favorable, implying that reinvesting capital into more satellites is a positive net-present-value growth strategy.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:43

    Kook argues the market may be under-crediting AST's ability to keep reinvesting and expanding well beyond the currently authorized 243-satellite constellation, and estimates that running out the current 243-satellite plan alone implies a share price of $500, $600, $700 to $1,000-plus, with further upside from the broader product roadmap.

AI Data Centers in Space and ASTS as an AI Play

3
  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook references a podcast appearance by Antonio Linares (whom Kook jokingly says he thought had 'given up' after negative calls on Hims and Duolingo), who argues ASTS is a dominant player in the physical AI market; Kook says he broadly agrees, but with the caveat that he would not want ASTS characterized purely as an AI stock, given the volatility risk exemplified by Oracle's data center-related stock problems.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook says that 'under the pressure of a polygraph test' he would admit ASTS is in fact a leveraged AI play, given the importance he expects edge AI and connectivity to have, and its extension into space-based AI data centers as an important use case, particularly for Department of War applications.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:43

    Kook relays a take from an account called 'Katzi' arguing that AI data center customer segmentation matters: mainstream consumer AI use cases (e.g. casual image-generation tools) don't need space-based AI compute today, but niche, high-value use cases — such as Kook's hypothetical example of a closed-loop communications-plus-AI-compute system between two Navy ships for targeting and fire control — could justify space-based AI compute economically even at a small scale, with costs declining over time as use cases expand.

Investment Philosophy and Competitive Landscape

6
  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook describes his investment philosophy of putting 'wood behind the arrow' — finding a value-creating company with a strong business model that also has a megatrend behind it, then being patient enough to hold through cycles and drawdowns to capture outsized returns.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook recalls identifying space as an emerging investment theme as far back as February 2021, around the time Cathie Wood's ARK launched a space economy ETF, but notes the path from 2021 to today involved severe drawdowns before the thesis was validated by value creation in stocks like ASTS and Rocket Lab.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook says ASTS, as a proxy for high-multiple growth/thematic investing, has repeatedly shown 50%-plus drawdowns on its path, which he frames as normal for this type of stock rather than evidence the thesis is wrong.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook discusses China's 'Qianfan' (referred to phonetically as 'Kuangfan'), a roughly 1,000-satellite LEO constellation, arguing that when China launches such systems, the Pentagon reacts with urgency to avoid falling behind in what he characterizes as a broad, all-encompassing arms race — which he says is ultimately good for US space companies like ASTS because it accelerates government investment and initiatives like the Golden Dome executive order.

  • Kook Speculation 00:17:43

    Kook closes with a comparison to a report by 'Ivan' showing SpaceX appearing to fudge results in a Starlink demonstration, contrasting it with AST SpaceMobile's practice of having all its testing and results verified and validated by third-party partners.

  • Kook Untagged 00:17:43

    Kook mentions that Alden Vikstrand Iversen secured coverage of AST SpaceMobile in Finansavisen, a Norwegian newspaper Kook says he used to read and translate, welcoming the increased visibility to Norwegian investors.

Near-Term Catalyst Recap

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook lists the near-term catalyst path for the stock: the ISRO FM-1 launch, a Saudi Telecom prepayment he expects to hit around December 31st, a likely Blue Origin launch of BB-7/FM-2 that could ship 'at any time,' possible FCC approval of AST's SCS/direct-to-cell coverage application 'at any time,' and a first batch of roughly 2-3 satellites per SpaceX launch that could also ship soon.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook says additional upside tail risk could come from further Golden Dome developments, additional government agencies signing on, and proof (beyond Jennifer Manor's testimony) that AST is actually producing 6 satellites per month, which he expects to create a backlog of satellites ready to launch.

Watch Items8

  • FM-1 (BlueBird 6) launch from India via ISRO

    Stated as December 23 at 10:24 PM Eastern (roughly December 24 locally for Kook in Australia); Kook expressed uncertainty about the exact timezone conversion Kook 00:00:27
  • Saudi Telecom (stc) prepayment expected to be received

    Expected to hit December 31, 2025 Kook 00:00:27
  • BB-7 (FM2) launch, expected via Blue Origin

    Could be shipping out 'really at any time' Kook 00:00:27
  • FCC approval of AST's SCS (Supplemental Coverage from Space) direct-to-cell coverage application

    Could happen 'again at any time' Kook 00:00:27
  • First batch of additional satellite shipments/launches on SpaceX, expected around 2-3 satellites per launch

    Could be shipping 'really at any point' Kook 00:00:27
  • Potential Golden Dome contract award/news for ASTS

    Unspecified near-term; Kook says 'there is more to come' Kook 00:14:22
  • Potential FirstNet contract award for ASTS

    Unspecified; Kook considers it effectively already decided Kook 00:14:22
  • Possible combined company press release on FM-1 launch, FM-2 shipment, and 6-satellites-per-month production proof

    Unspecified; Kook speculates it could come before year-end even during the holidays Kook 00:14:22

Open Questions4

  • What exactly are the 'new waveforms' being tested by the two delayed SDA satellites referenced by Dr. Gurbartap — could they be 6G technology, Cohere-style spectrum-efficiency technology, encrypted military waveforms, or other non-communication use cases?

    Kook 00:00:27
  • Has ASTS already secured initial Golden Dome-related work as a subcontractor to prime contractors such as AT&T, L3, and/or Lockheed?

    Kook 00:14:22
  • What are the additional satellite products beyond the ASIC/low-band and upcoming mid-band BlueBirds that AST appears to be building toward (speculatively 'Powerbirds,' 'radar birds,' or repurposed 5G satellites), and what use cases (likely Golden Dome-related) do they serve?

    Kook 00:17:43
  • What are the actual unit economics of an incremental AST satellite, and do they support the positive-NPV reinvestment thesis Kook is estimating in his DD doc?

    Kook 00:17:43
2025-12-18 1:15:44

Anpanman - Catalyst Season

Anpanman · Jacob

Anpanman hosts this episode with fill-in guest Jacob after Kook was unable to join, covering a cluster of near-term catalysts for AST SpaceMobile.

Those include Trump's same-evening signing of the NDAA writing Golden Dome into federal law, a congressional testimony disclosure suggesting the company has hit a 6-satellites-per-month production milestone, and the still-pending FM1/BlueBird 6 launch from India.

Much of the episode explains the prior day's roughly 11% stock decline as broad, sector-wide high-beta de-risking rather than an AST-specific problem. It also includes a deep dive on Abel Avellan's supervoting Class C share structure and why it has protected the company from a hostile takeover during past low-price periods.

The headline conclusion is that AST's fundamental risks (funding, technology, MNO commercial agreements) are unchanged, and that Golden Dome awards, the BlueBird 6 launch, and BlueBird 8+ shipments are converging into what Anpanman calls a 'catalyst season' heading into 2026.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman hosted this episode solo with fill-in guest Jacob after Kook could not attend due to personal obligations.
  • President Trump was scheduled to sign the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) at the Oval Office at 6:00 PM on the episode's publish date (December 18, 2025), which writes the Golden Dome missile-defense program into federal law; Anpanman believes AST SpaceMobile, which already has 9 military contracts, is well positioned to be a participant.
  • AST's SVP of International Affairs, Jennifer Manor, testified before the House Subcommittee on Communications and Technology on December 16, 2025 and stated the company's production level was at '6 satellites per day,' which Anpanman and Jacob interpret as a likely misstatement of the company's actual milestone of 6 fully-integrated satellites per month (with control bus), a level the company was already targeting by year-end.
  • AST SpaceMobile's roughly 11% stock decline the prior day was attributed to a broad market de-risking event affecting high-beta names across sectors (e.g., IREN, NBIS, OCLO, Robinhood, Palantir, Globalstar, EchoStar, Rocket Lab), not to any AST-specific bad news.
  • Real-time short interest in AST SpaceMobile had fallen to about 36 million shares as of the day before the episode, down from a recent high of 42 million shares on December 5, 2025, which Anpanman reads as short sellers covering ahead of anticipated catalysts.
  • AST's institutional ownership stands at 37% of total shares outstanding, or 47% of the free float once Abel Avellan's Class C control shares and strategic-investor holdings are excluded; this compares to Rocket Lab's 59% of float and Google's 83% institutional ownership, which Anpanman sees as room for a valuation re-rating as more institutions get comfortable owning the stock.
  • Abel Avellan's Class C supervoting shares give him effective voting control of AST SpaceMobile even though his economic ownership is a minority stake; Anpanman argues this structure protected the company from a hostile takeover or activist pressure during 2024 when the stock traded near $2, buying time for the Verizon deal to close.
  • The ISRO launch provider briefly posted (and then quickly retracted) an event reservation page on its website giving a launch date of December 24, 2025 (roughly December 23 at 10:30 PM Eastern), which Anpanman speculates AST asked them to pull pending a bigger PR package.
  • Jacob explained that the NDAA only sets spending instructions and does not itself release Golden Dome funding; the actual money comes from separate appropriations bills, which had already passed the House and cleared Senate Republican changes, with Democratic changes hoped to be finished before recess so appropriations could be released around January.
  • AST SpaceMobile has about $1 billion of committed contracted revenue and over $3 billion in cash/funding, which Anpanman argues removes near-term funding risk as a reason for investors to worry about launch timing slippage.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

Golden Dome and Government/Defense Contracts

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    President Trump is scheduled to sign the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) at the Oval Office at 6:00 PM this evening (episode publish date December 18, 2025), which will write Golden Dome into federal law; the news was surfaced by Space Mob member 'Sign Lars 13128.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman believes AST SpaceMobile will be a big participant in Golden Dome, noting the company already has 9 military contracts and that most institutional investors are unaware of this side of the business, focusing instead only on consumer direct-to-device connectivity with MNOs.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Anpanman recalls that Scott Wisniewski said at the Bank of America investor meeting that the majority of 2026 revenues are expected to come from military/government work, with commercial MNO revenue contribution expected to kick in during 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Companies awarded Golden Dome work are expected to already have technologies that are available or need little modification, since Trump's stated goal is to have Golden Dome operational before he leaves office in about 3 years; Anpanman believes this favors AST.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 01:11:28

    Golden Dome cannot be repealed without an act of Congress; since the NDAA passed overwhelmingly in both the House and Senate with bipartisan support, Anpanman does not see it at risk.

  • Jacob Speculation 01:11:28

    The NDAA itself only provides spending instructions, not the actual funding authorization — that comes through separate appropriations bills. The Department of Defense/NASA appropriations had already passed the House, and Senate Republicans had completed their changes; Jacob was hopeful the Democratic side would finish its changes before recess so the appropriations, which actually release the money, could pass around January.

Production Milestone Disclosure (Jennifer Manor Congressional Testimony)

5
  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Jennifer Manor, AST's SVP of International Affairs, testified on December 16, 2025 before the Subcommittee on Communications and Technology of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce on public safety communications; in response to a question about AST's readiness, she stated production was at '6 satellites per day,' which Anpanman believes was a misstatement of 6 satellites per month.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    If the company is indeed at 6 satellites per month production, that implies the next two batches of BlueBirds are close to ready to ship, consistent with the company's prior statement that two batches (enough to fill a launch) would be ready in December.

  • Jacob Untagged 00:09:26

    Jacob asked whether the '6 satellites a month' figure referred to fully produced/integrated satellites or just completed Micron modules.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:10:12

    Anpanman clarified that the company was already producing 6 Microns per month, and that the key milestone being tracked was reaching 6 fully integrated satellites (with control bus) per month by the end of 2025; lining up Jennifer Manor's and Scott Wisniewski's prior comments, he believes the company is at or close to that fully-integrated 6-satellites-per-month rate.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman was uncertain whether the company would issue any PR specifically around reaching the 6-satellites-per-month milestone.

Satellite Testing (TVAC) Process

5
  • Jacob Untagged 00:10:40

    Jacob asked whether AST has TVAC (thermal vacuum) chambers on site at Midland for satellite testing.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:10:56

    AST now has TVAC chambers on site at Midland; previously, when testing BlueWalker 3, the company had to truck the satellite to San Diego for TVAC testing and truck it back if issues were found, which was far less convenient.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:10:56

    Anpanman raised an open question from Space Mob discussions: once a satellite configuration has been tested a few times and proven reliable, does the company still need to test every single unit, or can it spot-test once production and component yields are consistent?

  • Jacob Disagreement 00:12:16

    Jacob countered that industry standard is generally to test every satellite, and given each one costs roughly $21-22 million to produce, he expects AST to test all of them (whether 90, 100, or 320 total) rather than risk an untested failure; the two did not fully resolve the question and suggested it as something to ask management on a future earnings call.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:12:55

    Anpanman speculated that with roughly $3 billion in cash, AST likely has enough TVAC capacity to test all satellites for now, though vibration testing specifically might eventually be reduced once the company has enough data on a given launch vehicle/satellite-count combination's harmonics.

Launch Timeline: BlueBird 6/FM1, FM2, and BlueBird 8+

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    ISRO's website briefly posted an event reservation page giving a launch date of December 24, 2025 (equivalent to about December 23 at 10:30 PM Eastern), which was then quickly retracted; Anpanman speculates AST asked ISRO to pull it, likely because the company wants to control a bigger PR package tied to the launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman noted SpaceX has two launches scheduled for early February that could carry the next BlueBird batches, and that the timing of integrating satellites into a fairing is consistent with two batches (enough to fill a launch) being ready in December.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:11

    FM1 and FM2 appear to be experimental military satellites whose shipment has been delayed by changing government customer requirements; Anpanman says they will ship whenever the government is comfortable with its requirements, and considers the more important satellites to watch to be BlueBird 8 and up (the next two batches of three), which will signal the start of commercial service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:11

    Anpanman said that if he had to bet, the next two batches (BlueBird 8+) would ship before the end of December in order to meet a February launch plan.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:12:11

    BlueBird 8 will be the first commercial Block 2 BlueBird satellite, which Anpanman expects will be a notable celebratory moment (and likely subject of memes) given its significance for the start of commercial service.

  • Jacob Untagged 00:30:07

    Jacob raised a question (unresolved) about whether there could be an operations-side bottleneck as AST scales to launching satellites at a pace matching its ~6-per-month production rate — e.g., a capacity limit on how many satellites can be unfolded/brought online simultaneously.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:28

    Anpanman does not believe fleet operations will be a bottleneck, noting AST has more than tripled its workforce and that modern AI/software tools should allow efficient management of many satellites simultaneously, though he was not fully certain and suggested it as a question for a future earnings call.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:28

    Anpanman noted AST's planned constellation of a few hundred to about 1,200 satellites will be easier to manage operationally than a constellation the size of Starlink's (30,000-40,000 satellites), and mentioned Starlink's V3 satellite reportedly has a 60-meter wingspan.

Stock Volatility and Market Psychology

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:11

    AST SpaceMobile stock fell about 11% the day before the episode; Anpanman attributes this to a broad market risk-reduction/de-grossing event affecting high-beta names across the board (correlations near 1), not to AST-specific news, citing comparable drawdowns in IREN, NBIS, OCLO, Robinhood, Palantir, Globalstar (down ~12%), and EchoStar.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:11

    Anpanman recommends investors track a basket of other space and high-beta names (Rocket Lab, Planet Labs, Redwire, Intuitive Machines, Globalstar, EchoStar, plus non-space high-beta names like IonQ and data center stocks) during drawdowns to get perspective that a decline is sector/market-wide rather than company-specific.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:20:51

    AST SpaceMobile's market cap was around $700 million in April 2024, versus roughly $30 billion at the time of the episode; the prior day's dollar move alone was equivalent to about 6-7 times the company's entire April 2024 market cap.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:21:18

    Real-time short interest in AST SpaceMobile was about 36 million (shares, figure stated somewhat unclearly) as of the day before the episode, down from a recent high of 42 million shares on December 5, 2025, which Anpanman interprets as short sellers covering ahead of anticipated catalysts.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:51

    Anpanman argues that going on margin or using leveraged options in a high-beta stock like AST is dangerous because volatility can force investors out of positions at the bottom regardless of whether their long-term thesis is correct.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:17

    Anpanman lists the company's core risk checklist: funding is not a risk (over $3 billion in cash), the technology works, and MNO definitive commercial agreements have been signed (citing Verizon and Saudi Telecom in October); the main residual risk he identifies is timeline delays.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:25:17

    AST SpaceMobile has about $1 billion of committed, contracted revenue, and Saudi Telecom (stc) is expected to record a $175 million revenue prepayment on the balance sheet this quarter, before year-end.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:17

    Anpanman says the broader macro backdrop (rate environment, defense spending) matters for the stock, and expects 2026 to be thematically 'the year for space.'

Institutional Ownership and Share Structure

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:39:32

    AST SpaceMobile's institutional ownership is 37% of total shares outstanding, or 47% of the free float (a more accurate measure once Abel Avellan's voting-control Class C shares and strategic-investor stakes are excluded); this compares to well-held institutional names in the 70%+ range, Google at 83% institutional ownership, and Rocket Lab at 59% of float.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:32

    Rocket Lab is projected to generate about $600 million in revenue this year and $880 million next year, which Anpanman contrasts with AST as still pre-revenue-ramp, explaining Rocket Lab's higher institutional ownership.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:51:57

    AST has roughly 279 (likely 279 million, figure stated unclearly) Class A publicly traded shares, 11.2 million Class B shares (held only by Vodafone at about 9 million/80% and American Tower at about 2.2 million/20%, a vestige of early venture investment, carrying one vote per share like Class A), and Abel Avellan holds 78 million Class C shares carrying supervoting rights.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:57

    Abel Avellan's supervoting Class C structure was put in place before the company went public specifically so he could retain control and see his long-term vision through, functioning as a takeover defense against hostile bids or activist pressure to sell the company.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:57

    Anpanman illustrates that if AST had lacked a high-vote/low-vote structure when the stock traded near $2 in 2024, an activist could have taken a large stake and pushed for a sale during a vulnerable period, before the Verizon partnership (announced in May 2024, taking about 4 additional months from January) had closed; Avellan's voting control prevented that scenario.

  • Jacob Speculation 00:59:01

    Jacob compares this favorably to Rocket Lab, where founder Peter Beck lacks similar supervoting control and owns only about 10% of the company, versus Abel Avellan's larger economic stake plus voting control at AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:00:08

    Anpanman notes Rocket Lab's Peter Beck has been selling shares, which he believes is under a 10b5-1 pre-arranged trading plan; he explains such plans let insiders sell on a pre-set, non-discretionary schedule for estate-planning/liquidity purposes and should not be read as a negative signal unless the amount sold represents a large percentage of an insider's total stake.

SpaceX IPO and Space-Based Data Centers

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  • Jacob Rumor 00:39:32

    There was a 'bank rate bake-off' last week ahead of SpaceX's IPO, expected next year (2026); rumors suggest SpaceX could IPO at around a $1.5 trillion valuation.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:42:12

    Special purpose vehicles (SPVs) that allow indirect investment in SpaceX are currently raising money at an $800 billion valuation, ahead of an expected IPO next year at roughly $1.5 trillion; Anpanman heard this from a friend the day before the episode.

  • Jacob Speculation 00:39:32

    Jacob believes a SpaceX IPO, and its likely inclusion alongside AST, Rocket Lab, and other names in future ETFs, will drive more institutional ownership and capital into the broader space sector.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:42:07

    A major driver of SpaceX's push to go public is to fund an AI/LEO data centers business, powered by solar energy in space; Anpanman sees this as opening a new large addressable market for the space sector generally (beyond launch and communications), and thinks it's a net positive for AST in that it validates the broader space investment thesis even though SpaceX/Starlink will remain a competitor in direct-to-cell.

  • Jacob Untagged 00:41:22

    Jacob plugged an X Spaces interview with Redwire's Chief Technology Officer hosted by Space Investor (@SpaceInvestor_D) scheduled for 2:00 PM Eastern the day after the episode.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:41:29

    Anpanman recommended a recent Space Investor interview (about a week prior) with the Voyager CEO, which included useful insights on space-based data centers.

Executive Stock Compensation and Insider Selling

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  • Anpanman Speculation 01:07:06

    Anpanman defends AST executives' occasional stock sales, explaining most of their compensation is in stock given relatively modest cash salaries, and that selling a modest percentage of holdings for family/liquidity needs (e.g., childcare, tuition) is normal and should not be read as a bearish signal.

  • Anpanman Speculation 01:00:08

    Abel Avellan has not sold significant stock and has entered into only one small collar transaction to date, though Anpanman expects at some future market-cap milestone ($50B-$200B+) Avellan will eventually take some money off the table, potentially to start a family office.

  • Anpanman Untagged 01:00:24

    Drawing on his own investment banking background, Anpanman explains that 10b5-1 plans let insiders pre-commit to sales on a non-discretionary schedule, which avoids the appearance of trading on material non-public information.

Personal Notes and Miscellaneous

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  • Jacob Untagged 00:38:59

    Jacob shared that he had his AST SpaceMobile shares called away in May and finally reinvested in ASTS the day before the episode.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:05

    AST SpaceMobile stock recently hit an all-time high of about $100 and was trading around $65 at the time of the episode; Anpanman believes it will go well beyond $100 in the near term.

  • Anpanman Untagged 01:13:37

    Anpanman noted breaking news during the recording that the Kennedy Center will be renamed the 'Trump Kennedy Center,' joking that Trump might similarly want credit for the U.S. building the 'biggest and most beautiful satellites in LEO' and floated it as a bet on whether Trump would mention BlueBird satellites during the NDAA signing.

Watch Items6

  • Trump signs the NDAA into law, formally establishing Golden Dome; potential subsequent news/leaks about which companies (possibly including AST) are selected for Golden Dome work

    This evening (6:00 PM), December 18, 2025, with possible related news trickling out in the following days including the slow-PR week of Christmas Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Appropriations bills that actually release Golden Dome funding (separate from the NDAA itself)

    Hoped for around January 2026, pending Democratic Senate changes before recess Jacob 01:11:28
  • BlueBird 6 (FM1) launch from India via ISRO

    ISRO briefly posted then retracted a reservation date of December 24, 2025 (~Dec 23, 10:30 PM ET); exact date unconfirmed at time of episode Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Next two batches of BlueBird satellites (BlueBird 8 and up) shipping to meet the next launch window

    Expected to ship before end of December 2025, to meet two SpaceX launches scheduled for early February 2026 Anpanman 00:14:11
  • BlueBird 8 launch — first commercial Block 2 BlueBird satellite

    Following the BlueBird 8-13 batch shipments; no specific date given Anpanman 01:12:11
  • Space Investor (@SpaceInvestor_D) X Spaces interview with Redwire's Chief Technology Officer

    2:00 PM Eastern, the day after the episode Jacob 00:41:22

Open Questions4

  • Does AST SpaceMobile need to test (TVAC/vibration) every single satellite it produces, or can it eventually spot-test once production consistency and component yields are proven?

    Anpanman 00:10:56
  • Will AST SpaceMobile put out any official PR specifically announcing that it has reached its 6-satellites-per-month production milestone?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Could satellite fleet operations (unfolding, activation, mission management) become a bottleneck as AST scales up its launch cadence toward matching its ~6-satellite-per-month production rate?

    Jacob 00:30:07
  • When exactly will FM2 (the second experimental military BlueBird) ship, given it depends on the government customer's evolving requirements?

    Anpanman 00:14:11
2025-12-15 55:37

Kook's Weekly - December 14

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' recap (Dec 14, 2025), Kook frames AST SpaceMobile as a 'strategic asset' in the mold of SpaceX and Blue Origin.

He then runs through the week's news: FM1 (BlueBird 6) has been handed off to its launch provider ahead of a launch expected in the next week or two. AT&T/FirstNet released new field-test videos, and AST filed an FCC application to deploy Ligado's spectrum across a planned 96-satellite mid-band constellation.

The bulk of the episode is Kook's recap of Scott Wisniewski's UBS fireside chat (radar/Golden Dome involvement, 90% net-margin math, 13 launches slated for 2026). He adds an extended, self-described speculative thesis that AST's new dedicated Micron manufacturing facility could be building non-communications payloads (possibly GPU/AI compute) for a Golden Dome defense contract.

The headline conclusion is that Kook believes Golden Dome, tied to the 2026 NDAA moving through Congress, is the next major (and imminent) catalyst. He sees it layered on top of an already-expanding total addressable market (FirstNet, roaming-fee displacement, space-based AI data centers) that he thinks the market is only beginning to price in.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook argues AST SpaceMobile should be viewed as a 'strategic asset' — something other companies and governments need to buy into or partner with — using recent moves by Sam Altman (reportedly considering a space business purchase) and Jeff Bezos (calling space a $1-2 trillion opportunity) as evidence that space businesses are being re-rated as strategically important rather than niche.
  • AST SpaceMobile announced that FM1 (BlueBird 6, the first Block 2 satellite) has been integrated into its launch fairing and handed off to the launch provider, which Kook says signals AST has completed its part and any further delay would be on the launch provider; he expects launch within the next one to two weeks.
  • Kook speculates (explicitly unconfirmed) that FM2 could ship soon on a New Glenn 3 mission, and that BlueBirds 8, 10, 11, and 13 (two sets of three) could also ship shortly, though he stresses this is his own guess, not confirmed information.
  • AT&T/FirstNet released new videos this week showing first responders successfully testing AST SpaceMobile connectivity in the field, which Kook cites as further third-party validation of the technology (following the FirstNet-AT&T video pointer that Katzi flagged).
  • Using math from 'Endless Capital,' Kook estimates the FirstNet opportunity alone could be roughly 7.5 million devices at a (conservative, possibly net) $10 ARPU generating about $900 million of annual revenue, which at a 30x multiple implies roughly $20 billion of value, or about $50 per share — a framework Kook says he'd apply similarly to a Golden Dome contract.
  • AST filed an FCC application (an amendment to Ligado's license) seeking approval to deploy Ligado's L-band spectrum on AST satellites; per Katzi's breakdown of the filing, this points to a planned 96-satellite mid-band constellation woven together with AST's low-band constellation to improve beamforming and coverage.
  • Recapping Scott Wisniewski's recent UBS fireside chat, Kook highlights several company-guidance data points: 13 launches are scheduled for 2026, the company is generating more power in orbit than any competitor (cited elsewhere in the episode as roughly 120 kilowatts vs. Starlink V3's stated 20 kilowatts), AST's large phased-array radar capability is what brought it into Golden Dome discussions, each government 'program of record' is worth about $100 million per year and AST is currently working on about ten of them, and satellite production is nearing a six-per-month cadence that the company plans to disclose once achieved.
  • Kook explains why AST's reported ~90% EBITDA margins are accurate despite looking unusually high: because AST reports net (not gross) revenue — e.g., if a subscriber pays AT&T $20/month and AST's revenue share is $10, reporting the $20 gross with a profit-share cost would show roughly 50% margins on higher revenue, while reporting the $10 net shows ~90% margins on lower revenue, with the same absolute EBITDA dollars either way.
  • Kook devotes significant airtime to a self-described speculative thesis that AST's newly announced dedicated Micron production facility (in Midland) may not be for communications phased-array antennas at all, but could instead house GPU/AI-compute payloads as part of a Golden Dome-related defense mesh — explicitly framed as his own guess ('I don't know if I'm right') based on the company discussing radar, Golden Dome, and the new facility in the same breath.
  • Kook frames Golden Dome as likely to be the next major near-term catalyst, tied to the 2026 NDAA (defense authorization/appropriations bill) which has passed the U.S. House and needs Senate passage and a presidential signature; he believes there was a push to get this done before Christmas and that AST is a recipient of one of the associated Golden Dome contracts, though this remains his speculation.
  • Kook notes that DirecTV has filed FCC data showing SpaceX's Starlink Direct-to-Cell testing is causing significant real-world interference with DirecTV satellite TV service, which he says could jeopardize SpaceX's ability to get a permanent waiver to scale the service and might force SpaceX to power down parts of its system.
  • AST's chief scientist for space systems reportedly circulated a slide comparing orbital debris/collision risk across constellation sizes, showing Starlink needs 10,000+ satellites versus AST's planned constellation of a few hundred — which Kook argues makes AST's approach more sustainable for space safety and radio astronomy.

Detailed Discussion12 topics

Strategic Asset Thesis & Market Context

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Kook says the key question he asks when evaluating any investment is whether it's a 'strategic asset' — something another company or government needs to acquire or partner with to remain relevant — versus a plain cash-flow investment nobody particularly needs.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook argues that Musk and Bezos built space companies that initially looked like billionaire hobby projects ('build a superyacht, build a space company') but turned out to be globally important businesses; he cites Sam Altman reportedly considering buying a space business about two weeks prior as a 'wake-up call' moment for the market on how strategic space assets are.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook references a Bezos interview from a couple of months back where Bezos, self-funded and calm, called space a $1-2 trillion opportunity; Kook says most market participants didn't fully grasp the telecom opportunity in space until Starlink, and are only now waking up to space-based data centers.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Kook recounts a conversation with a friend who works at NVIDIA about power-hungry AI compute racks (he described a 1-megawatt rack where most of the weight is cooling infrastructure); when Kook told him AST SpaceMobile can already generate about 120 kilowatts of power, the friend was impressed, though Kook notes that's still less than a full megawatt.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Kook mentions a retweet by Peter Limart showing that on Vodafone's history wall/timeline, AST SpaceMobile (ASTS) appears three separate times, which he cites as evidence AST is viewed as a strategic partner rather than a minor vendor.

FM1 Launch Prep & Near-Term Satellite Shipments

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:28

    The company posted a photo of FM1 (BlueBird 6) integrated into its launch fairing, signaling it has been handed over to the launch provider; Kook interprets this as the company signaling that any further delay is now on the launch provider, not AST, and expects launch to occur within the next week or two.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook personally speculates there's a real chance FM2 gets shipped soon, guessing it will fly on New Glenn 3, and that BlueBirds 8 and 10 (a '3-shot') and BlueBirds 11 and 13 (another 3-shot) could also ship shortly — explicitly flagged as his own guess, not confirmed information.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Because he sees near-term upside risk (more shipments/launches happening soon), Kook says he bought a small ASTS position this week purely as a trading vehicle (about 0.1% the size of his core position) and is weighing selling covered calls, stressing this has essentially zero economic impact on his actual core position.

Manufacturing & Composite Satellite Buses

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:28

    The Twitter account 'ASTS Investors' flagged a new job opening for someone to help scale manufacturing of composite satellite buses; Kook explains FM1 and FM2 use a heavier metallic structure while BlueBird 8/8+ will use composite structures.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook says composites have been the critical-path item for progress on later BlueBirds; he and his community tracked composite material deliveries via Antonov aircraft and believe AST is now receiving a continuous stream of composites from vendors, which he views as a good sign, though he declines to say exactly how they know this.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook interprets the new job posting to bring composite-bus manufacturing capability in-house as consistent with AST's strategy to vertically integrate and control its own supply chain for this critical-path item.

FirstNet / AT&T Partnership

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:10:11

    AT&T directed followers to FirstNet this week to see a testing update, and FirstNet then published videos showing first responders successfully testing the satellite-to-phone equipment in the field.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:11

    Kook contrasts AST with Nikola, rejecting short-seller comparisons: unlike Nikola, AST has worked with partners for 5+ years and had progress independently press-released by multiple partners — AT&T, Verizon, Rakuten, Vodafone, and FirstNet (a separate legal entity controlled by AT&T).

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:10:11

    Kook notes Block 1 satellites are less powerful than the next generation; FM1 will be much larger, giving more advanced/sophisticated beamforming, and with low-band spectrum this should enable indoor coverage through at least one wall.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:11

    Kook argues the FirstNet opportunity should be a large contract, citing roughly 7 million FirstNet subscribers who would pay premium rates, and explains the arrangement will use FirstNet spectrum with AT&T able to reallocate unused capacity for commercial use.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:11

    Citing math from 'Endless Capital': 7.5 million devices at a (possibly net) $10 ARPU implies about $900 million of annual revenue; applying a margin and a 30x multiple implies roughly $20 billion of value, or about $50 per share — Kook says he thinks this framework is 'about right' and would apply similarly to Golden Dome.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:10:11

    Kook cites a video from Mohammed Beg of FirstNet/AT&T (dated June 26) about the 'ASTS Initiative,' noting current FirstNet services cost between $20 and $100 per month, and that AT&T is targeting a price of about $20 per month for the AST-enabled service, which he says triangulates reasonably with other ARPU estimates.

Ligado Spectrum FCC Filing

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:10:11

    AST filed an FCC application this week amending Ligado's current license to authorize deploying Ligado's spectrum on AST spacecraft; Kook says the filing was gated behind the prior SCS comment period closing first. He calls the filing itself 'pretty uneventful' after reading it in full.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:10:11

    Per Katzi's breakdown of the filing, the plan involves 96 satellites forming a mid-band constellation woven together with AST's existing low-band constellation, intended to give more advanced beamforming and more robust coverage combining low-band and mid-band beams.

UBS Fireside Chat Recap (Scott Wisniewski)

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  • Kook Company Guidance 00:14:41

    Recapping Scott Wisniewski's UBS fireside chat from a couple of weeks earlier, Kook cites Scott saying 'there's not an operator around the world that doesn't want to meet with us,' and notes AST is the one dictating the pace of new distribution agreements (DAs) since getting satellites in orbit is the priority condition for further DAs to matter.

  • Kook Speculation 00:14:41

    Kook references a ViaSat market study (surveying roughly 12,000 people) that he says shows the addressable market is far bigger than previously estimated; he argues MNOs care less about the ARPU bump and more about reduced subscriber churn and the ability to poach subscribers from competitors, since perceived need for satellite coverage (even if actual need is lower) drives strong consumer demand.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:14:41

    Kook highlights Scott specifically stating on the UBS call that AST is 'putting more power into orbit than anyone else,' which Kook connects to both the AI data center use case and military use cases, and speculates Scott made this point deliberately (possibly influenced by retail-investor pressure) because something specific prompted it.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:14:41

    Scott confirmed on the call that there are 13 launches scheduled for 2026.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:14:41

    Scott specifically discussed other capabilities AST can offer beyond communications, stating that the company's radar capabilities are what brought it into the Golden Dome discussion, and confirmed AST's direct involvement in Golden Dome.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:14:41

    Scott discussed a separate dedicated Micron production facility the company is spinning up specifically for government programs, noting the government wants government-specific capabilities riding on commercial platforms.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:14:41

    Scott said each government 'program of record' is worth about $100 million per year, and the company is currently working on approximately ten of them.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:14:41

    Scott indicated production is nearing a cadence of six satellites per month and said the company will disclose it once that rate is actually achieved.

  • Kook Untagged 00:14:41

    Kook explains why AST's roughly 90% EBITDA margins are legitimate despite looking unusually high: AST reports net revenue (its revenue share) rather than gross billings — e.g., of a $20/month AT&T charge, AST reports only its ~$10 share; if AST instead reported the full $20 gross with the profit share as a cost, margins would show around 50% instead of 90%, but the absolute EBITDA dollars are identical either way, since the revenue share functions like AST's customer acquisition cost pushed onto AT&T.

TAM and Revenue Model Discussion

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  • Kook Company Guidance 00:19:54

    Kook cites Scott saying the company was built because of a belief there's 'tens of billions of dollars of revenue capability,' contrasting AST's large, expensive (~$3 billion) constellation bet with legacy narrowband satellite competitors who are TAM-limited by high-friction services.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook uses a railroad analogy (Union Pacific building track before it can move cargo) to explain why current quarterly revenue (he cites $14 million in a recent quarter) looks small relative to bullish long-term revenue targets some in the community have floated (e.g., $4 billion by 2027) — arguing the revenue ramp should be dramatic once fixed-cost infrastructure (satellites) is built, rather than gradual.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook describes his own approach to reverse-engineering Scott's 'tens of billions' revenue claim: starting from covered MNO subscribers, an assumed attach rate, and ARPU, then layering in IoT/multiple connected devices per household, Golden Dome and FirstNet (each potentially worth $1 billion), SatCo, and developing-world demand.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook notes the ViaSat study shows people in developing markets have the highest demand and highest willingness to pay as a percentage of their existing ARPU for satellite coverage, even though their absolute ARPU is lower.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    As a cross-check, Kook says he separately values the business using the company's data-production capacity (satellites built, potential additional shells beyond the current 243-satellite application, spectrum reuse) to estimate revenue, and says this data-production-based valuation approach — which he also used to value the Ligado spectrum deal — roughly matches his subscriber-based math, giving him more confidence he and Scott are 'speaking the same language.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook mentions Google introducing its first AI glasses as one more example of a device category that will need connectivity, reinforcing his view that more connected devices means more satellite demand over time.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook discusses an FCC filing related to AST's SCS application in which the Rural Wireless Association (referenced in the transcript as the 'Rural Network Association,' likely a transcription garble) objected to approval, arguing AT&T and Verizon would no longer need to pay for expensive third-party roaming towers if AST is approved; Kook notes AT&T reportedly spends between $100 and $200 million per year on roaming fees that could be eliminated once AST provides direct coverage, calling this an unexpected additional TAM discovery.

Golden Dome / Defense Opportunity

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    The 2026 NDAA (the defense appropriations/authorization bill) has passed the U.S. House and must still pass the Senate before being signed by President Trump; Kook believes there is a push to get this completed before Christmas, and that this bill is what unlocks major Golden Dome contract awards.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook states his belief — explicitly framed as his own view, not confirmed — that AST SpaceMobile is the recipient of one of the large Golden Dome contracts expected to be announced.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook cites a statement attributed to 'General Gutline' that Feinberg (Assistant Secretary of Defense and founder of Cerberus) is 'working really, really hard to scale out the industrial base to expand the magazine depth of our weapons,' and that the Golden Dome office has 'injected our requirements' into that process, which Kook reads as evidence Golden Dome is moving faster than the market expects.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook mentions a new bill item flagged by Katzi called 'T3TL' related to defense that he believes connects to AST, but says he doesn't actually know what it refers to.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook's extended, self-acknowledged speculative thesis: the new dedicated Micron production facility AST is building in Midland might not be for communications phased-array antennas, but could instead house other hardware (possibly GPUs) mounted on the opposite side of the solar panel as part of a Golden Dome-related compute/sensing mesh; he explicitly says 'I don't know if I'm right, but I'm perfectly empowered to have a view,' and frames this as a free/optional upside he isn't paying extra for, not a confirmed plan.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:19:54

    Kook cites a Redrum tweet asking 'did AST SpaceMobile just become an AI play?', quoting Scott saying 'the add-on opportunities are really impressive,' referencing communication services, non-communication services to the U.S. government, and next-generation commercialization of space.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:19:54

    Kook cites Pete Hegseth (Department of War) announcing the launch of genai.mil, a platform putting frontier AI models directly in the hands of American service members, which Kook connects to the broader need for edge compute/connectivity that AST could support.

  • Kook Speculation 00:49:31

    Kook closes by describing what he calls a 'change in tune' from Scott — no longer speaking hypothetically about pursuing Golden Dome but stating directly that AST 'is in' Golden Dome, paired with specific capability/infrastructure statements — and says he and Anpanman (with whom he says he talks daily) believe they've assembled a mosaic of facts suggesting something significant is developing, tied to the NDAA's progress through Congress and to recent strength in space stocks.

Space-Based AI Data Centers

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  • Kook Untagged 00:19:54

    Kook references a Wall Street Journal article about Bezos and Musk racing to bring data centers to space, and frames the concept (also being discussed publicly by Musk, Bezos, Sundar Pichai, and Eric Schmidt) as credible given the caliber of people engaging with it, though he says he personally cannot mathematically prove the concept and is mainly synthesizing others' notes.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook speculates that space-based AI compute is unlikely to replace a 100-megawatt terrestrial data center outright, but could plausibly support very high-value, specific use cases — particularly military applications like an advanced ballistic-missile targeting/radar system for Golden Dome.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook compares power output: AST SpaceMobile can generate over 100 kilowatts (cited elsewhere as 120 kilowatts), while Elon Musk has stated Starlink V3 (which cannot yet launch due to Starship issues) will produce 20 kilowatts, though Musk suggested the satellite could be rejiggered to approach 100 kilowatts if the phased-array antennas were removed; Kook says he doesn't know what AST could achieve if it optimized its own satellite bus similarly.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook notes AST has already solved thermal management with a large radiator design suited to satellites that move in and out of sunlight (not sun-synchronous orbit, though AST will also have an SSO shell), and has already solved backhaul — capabilities he says give it an edge for a data-center use case versus newer, smaller-scale entrants he links to (who are, in his view, still at an early exploratory stage comparable to AST's original BlueWalker prototype phase).

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook cites Katzi's thread on military AI use cases (connecting every soldier, drone, and sensor) as a well-argued case for why AST is well positioned for the military/AI opportunity, which Kook believes will be the first place this thesis plays out.

  • Kook Untagged 00:19:54

    Kook references a link from Dan Piermont discussing why incumbents like SpaceX and Amazon (not specifically AST, which the author reportedly wasn't aware of) might benefit from a dual-use model where satellites add AI compute workloads during otherwise idle/dwelling time.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook frames his AI-data-center thesis as 'free optionality': if it doesn't happen, an investor loses nothing since AST isn't putting its own capital at risk building a speculative constellation for it — the trigger would be a customer commitment, not AST building speculatively — while if it does happen, it adds meaningfully on top of his base-case telecom investment thesis.

SpaceX Valuation & Competitive Dynamics

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  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook notes the market saw news of an $800 billion SpaceX valuation this week, followed by Musk indicating pursuit of a $1.5 trillion valuation via an IPO; Kook argues such a valuation implies a telecom TAM far larger than the launch market alone, which he views as validating the size of the overall opportunity that also benefits AST SpaceMobile.

  • Kook Untagged 00:19:54

    Kook mentions a Crossroads Capital letter update (author: Ryan) discussing the AST investment case, recommending listeners read it, without detailing its specific content.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook contrasts AST's carrier-neutral model with SpaceX's approach of potentially becoming its own MNO; he says he wouldn't bet against Musk succeeding at that, but views it as an expensive proposition, and analogizes to how incumbent banks like JPMorgan largely withstood the 2020 fintech disruption wave, suggesting incumbent MNOs could similarly persist and continue to favor AST's non-competitive model.

SpaceX/Starlink Interference Issues

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  • Kook Speculation 00:19:54

    Kook cites a post from 'Dr. Ollie' noting amateur radio telescope operators are picking up Starlink emissions they shouldn't be able to detect, indicating high side-lobe interference consistent with concerns previously raised in FCC filings, now observed in real-world conditions.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:49:31

    DirecTV stated that SpaceX's Direct-to-Cell testing is validating DirecTV's own simulations showing significant interference, degrading satellite TV service for users even at locations that would normally have strong reception; DirecTV filed this data in an FCC docket, which Kook says could jeopardize SpaceX's ability to obtain a permanent waiver to scale its service, potentially forcing SpaceX to power down parts of its system.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:49:31

    Kook references a slide from AST's chief scientist for space systems (Dr. Raymond Sedwick, per the reference glossary) comparing orbital debris/collision risk across different constellation sizes, showing Starlink requires over 10,000 satellites versus AST's constellation of a few hundred, which Kook argues makes AST's model more sustainable for radio astronomy, neighboring constellations, and orbital debris risk.

Closing Remarks

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  • Kook Untagged 00:49:31

    Kook jokingly hopes AST ships FM7 and 'unloads the revolver' of all six upcoming BlueBirds this week, and jokingly wishes for a joint Trump-Abel Golden Dome press release at Mar-a-Lago before Friday, referencing a short seller he wants to see lose money on an expiring options contract.

  • Kook Speculation 00:49:31

    Kook closes by reiterating that he believes the NDAA's progress through Congress is the key timing catalyst to watch, that recent strength in space stocks suggests 'someone knows something,' and that he hopes the Golden Dome thesis is validated before the holidays so investors can see it play out.

Watch Items6

  • FM1 (BlueBird 6) launch

    Expected within the next week or two, per Kook Kook 00:00:28
  • Possible shipment of FM2 (on New Glenn 3) and BlueBirds 8, 10, 11, and 13

    Speculated to occur 'very shortly,' unconfirmed Kook 00:00:28
  • 2026 NDAA passage through the Senate and signature by President Trump

    Hoped-for before Christmas 2025 Kook 00:00:28
  • Potential Golden Dome contract award announcement involving AST SpaceMobile

    Kook hopes for next week (week of Dec 15-19, 2025), tied to NDAA timing Kook 00:49:31
  • Company disclosure of achieving a six-satellites-per-month production cadence

    To be disclosed once achieved, per Scott Wisniewski Kook 00:14:41
  • SpaceX's FCC permanent waiver decision amid DirecTV interference complaints

    Not dated in the episode Kook 00:49:31

Open Questions5

  • Will FM1 actually launch within the next week or two, and will FM2 and additional BlueBirds (8, 10, 11, 13) ship in the interim as Kook speculates?

    Kook 00:00:28
  • Will the 2026 NDAA pass the Senate and be signed before Christmas, and will that actually trigger announcement of Golden Dome contract awards, including one for AST?

    Kook 00:00:28
  • What exactly is 'T3TL,' the defense-related item Katzi flagged, and how does it relate to AST SpaceMobile?

    Kook 00:19:54
  • Is AST's new dedicated Micron manufacturing facility actually intended for non-communications payloads (e.g., GPU/AI compute) rather than phased-array antennas, as Kook speculates?

    Kook 00:19:54
  • Will SpaceX's Starlink Direct-to-Cell service be denied a permanent FCC waiver (or forced to power down) given DirecTV's documented interference complaints?

    Kook 00:49:31