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2026-03-03 1:08:28

AST SpaceMobile Q4 2025 Earnings Call

Abel Avellan · Scott Wisniewski · Andy Johnson · Max Kohlberg · Griffin Boss (analyst, B. Riley Securities) · Colin Canfield (analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald) · Brian Graff (analyst, Deutsche Bank) · Louis DiPalma (analyst, William Blair) · Chris Scholl (analyst, UBS) · Greg Pendi (analyst, ClearStreet)

This episode is a straight rebroadcast of AST SpaceMobile's official Q4/full-year 2025 earnings call, with no Anpanman or Kook commentary. It features CEO Abel Avellan, President Scott Wisniewski, and CFO/Chief Legal Officer Andy Johnson, with IR's Max Kohlberg opening the call.

Analysts from B. Riley Securities, Cantor Fitzgerald, Deutsche Bank, William Blair, UBS, and ClearStreet took part in Q&A.

Management detailed 2025 as the company's first revenue-generating year ($70.9M, top of guidance), BlueBird 6's successful launch and unfolding of its ~2,400 sq ft array, and a $3.9 billion pro forma cash position. Management also gave 2026 guidance of $150-200M in revenue with 45-60 satellites targeted in orbit by year-end.

The headline conclusion: management frames 2026 as the scaling year toward commercial service activation and 2027 as the year revenue approaches $1 billion, while stressing the balance sheet is now fully funded for a 100+ satellite constellation with no near-term need for additional capital raises.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile reported its first full year of revenue in 2025 at $70.9 million, the top end of its $50-75 million guidance range, and is no longer describing itself as pre-revenue.
  • Management guided to $150-200 million in full-year 2026 revenue (at least double 2025's figure) before any material contribution from commercial service launch, with roughly half of that revenue opportunity already booked or contracted.
  • The company holds a pro forma cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash position of approximately $3.9 billion as of December 31, 2025 (inclusive of a February 2026 convertible note raise), which management says fully funds manufacture and launch of a 100+ satellite constellation, with no current plans for additional convertible debt.
  • BlueBird 6, the first Block 2 satellite, successfully launched and unfolded a roughly 2,400-square-foot phased array (3.5x larger than Block 1), and BlueBird 7 — an identical satellite — is encapsulated on a New Glenn rocket at Cape Canaveral awaiting a March 2026 launch that will be the first to reuse a previously-flown New Glenn first stage.
  • Management targets 45-60 satellites in orbit or ready to ship by the end of 2026, enabled by satellite 'stacking' (launching groups of 3, 4, 6, or 8 satellites together), which executives said is now essentially certified/completed after causing recent delays, with the next batch of six satellites expected to ship in April 2026.
  • AST's commercial ecosystem now includes over 50 mobile network operator partners representing nearly 3 billion subscribers; total contracted revenue commitments were cited at $1.2 billion by Scott Wisniewski (versus 'over $1 billion' in Abel Avellan's opening remarks), including new Q4 2025 definitive agreements with Verizon and Saudi Arabia's STC Group (which included a $175 million prepayment).
  • The government/defense business includes roughly 10-11 active contracts, including a new $30 million Space Development Agency award (Europa Track 2) and an IDIQ contract position on the Missile Defense Agency's SHIELD program tied to the 'Golden Dome' initiative; executives see potential for multiple billions in annual government revenue longer-term.
  • Management set a goal of approaching $1 billion in annual revenue in 2027 (the first full year of commercial service revenue), though executives cautioned that of the current $1.2 billion contracted backlog, only roughly $100-300 million would likely convert to revenue in any single year.
  • CFO Andy Johnson said AST has been actively reducing debt, converting approximately $457 million of its January 2025 convertible notes and $250 million of its July 2025 convertible notes into Class A shares since the prior earnings call.
  • Executives project steady-state EBITDA margins could reach 90% or higher over time, citing historical 80%+ satellite-industry margins and AST's fixed-cost, revenue-share commercial model.
  • CEO Abel Avellan speculated that combining the satellites' large phased-array aperture with AI-driven spectrum management could multiply usable spectrum capacity by an estimated 3x to 10x, describing this explicitly as a future opportunity rather than a committed roadmap item.

Detailed Discussion13 topics

2025 Full-Year Results and Business Transformation

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  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:02

    For the first time in 2025, AST SpaceMobile became a revenue-generating business, advancing commercial, government, manufacturing, spectrum rights, IP, and capital position; during 2025 the company raised over $3.5 billion in capital, reported revenue of over $70 million for the full year, and signed over $1 billion of minimum committed revenue.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:13:39

    2025 was the year the company 'activated its revenue engine' with record revenue of over $70 million, achieving the upper end of guidance; the company is no longer pre-revenue.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    For the full year of 2025, the company achieved revenue of $70.9 million, representing the top end of the 2025 revenue guidance range of $50 to $75 million.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    In Q4 2025, the company recognized revenue of $54.3 million, primarily driven by gateway hardware sales and U.S. government service milestone achievements, plus revenue from critical consulting services provided to an MNO partner.

BlueBird 6, BlueBird 7, and Satellite Technology

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  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:02

    The Block 2 BlueBird program, developed just over a year after the first five Block 1 satellites launched, is roughly 3.5 times larger and 10 times the capacity of BlueBird 1-5; BlueBird 6 (approximately 2,400 square feet) was scaled, tested, launched, and successfully unfolded as the largest-ever commercial communications array deployed in low Earth orbit.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:02:02

    BlueBird 7, identical to BlueBird 6, is encapsulated and ready to launch on the next New Glenn vehicle at Cape Canaveral, with launch expected in March; this will be the first New Glenn launch to use a previously flown first stage, supporting AST's 2026 launch cadence, with the booster expected to be reused every 30 days or less afterward. Full encapsulation handoff occurred February 18.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:34:25

    BlueBird 6's deployment (3.5x bigger than the prior world-record-setting satellites) taught the team how to capture, control, and manage a satellite of that size, which will let future deployments (satellites described as '7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14' coming, numbering somewhat garbled in the audio) happen faster.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:02:02

    The ASIC chip is expected to be integrated into Block 2 BlueBird satellites during the first half of 2026 to support 10 GHz of processing bandwidth per satellite, enabling data rates of up to 120 Mbps on the in-orbit Block 1 satellites.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:45:47

    The satellites are performing well on BlueBird 6's new 2,400-square-foot platform, and the company is 'extremely happy' with performance seen so far.

Launch Cadence, New Glenn, and Satellite Stacking

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  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:02:02

    New Glenn features a 7-meter fairing enabling twice the payload volume of 5-meter-class commercial launch vehicles, supporting up to 8 of the largest Block 2 BlueBird satellites per launch; the company expects to fully utilize this fairing capacity as it progresses through its orbital launch plans.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:02:02

    The company remains on track to deploy 45 to 60 satellites into low Earth orbit by the end of 2026, with current expectations closer to 60 satellites ready to ship and 45 satellites in orbit; launches are expected every 1 to 2 months on average, starting with the first New Glenn launch in March. There are 12 additional contracted launches across several vehicles, plus a newly signed agreement with a new heavy launch vehicle to be on standby in the manifest.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:34:25

    After BlueBird 6 and 7, satellites will support a stackable configuration of 3, 4, 6, or 8 satellites per launch, which is needed to meet the 2026 deployment goals; there will be no more individual satellite launches.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:54:10

    Currently on satellite 30 for the key Micron building block; the company is on target to have a minimum of 60 satellites ready to ship and 45 in orbit in 2026. A year ago satellites were 3.5x smaller; the stacking process (grouping 3, 4, 6, or 8 satellites — described as roughly a 5-story building's worth of hardware) is near/now completed, and batches of 6 will be exiting the factory soon as shipments to Cape Canaveral resume.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:58:18

    All further launches will use the stacked configuration; the upcoming March launch is important because it reuses the New Glenn first stage — New Glenn is the only existing commercial platform that can stack 8 satellites (others stack 6 or 3).

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:58:39

    The company expects to ship the next batch of satellites in April; under ideal conditions it takes about 3 weeks from shipment to launch, though exact launch timing was not being speculated on (see page 10 of the IR deck for the detailed 2025/2026 deployment cadence).

Manufacturing and Production Capacity

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  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:02:02

    The company exited 2025 with production capacity supporting up to 6 satellites' worth of Micron and phased array per month, and expects to achieve a testing, assembly, and integration cadence of 6 satellites per month in the first half of 2026. BlueBird 8 to 29 are in various stages of production, with assembly of 40 satellites' worth of Micron scheduled to be complete by H1 2026, bringing the count to BlueBird 46.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:02

    The company's manufacturing strategy is 95% vertically integrated; over the past several months it expanded sites in Midland, Texas and Homestead, Florida, including acquiring a fourth Midland site dedicated to Micron production, bringing total footprint to soon over half a million square feet globally.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:02

    The company holds over 3,100 patents and patent-pending claims (note: episode show notes cited '3,800 patents,' but this figure — over 3,100 — is the number Abel Avellan actually stated on the call).

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    As of the call, 29 Block II BlueBird satellites are in various states of production, on target to complete assembly of 40 satellites' worth of Microns during the first half of 2026.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 00:19:12

    The average capital cost, including direct materials and launch costs, for the constellation of over 90 Block II BlueBird satellites is estimated at $21 million to $23 million per satellite, subject to fluctuation from geopolitical factors.

Spectrum Strategy

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  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:02

    AST's spectrum strategy includes access to approximately 1,150 MHz of low-band and mid-band tunable MNO spectrum globally, including 45 MHz of MSS lower-mid-band spectrum access in North America and 60 MHz of licensed S-band spectrum priority rights outside North America, centered on premium multi-operator 850 MHz cellular spectrum for reach and penetration.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:36:22

    The mid-band constellation using L- and S-band spectrum is planned to begin launching by the end of the year; combining 3GPP operator-owned frequencies with AST's own L/S bands is expected to push data rates well above the current 120 Mbps, with over 100 MHz of combined spectrum available in certain regions when combining partner and AST spectrum.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 01:00:12

    Peak data rate on a subscriber's phone will be directionally proportional to allocated spectrum; with some partners combined spectrum reaches around 100 MHz, and the network currently manages between 3 and 4 bits per hertz. The initial commercial service launch will use the lower end of that spectrum range, with peak rates increasing as more spectrum (including combined low-band and mid-band) is enabled.

Commercial Partnerships and MNO Ecosystem

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  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:02

    The commercial ecosystem now includes over 50 leading global mobile network operator partners collectively covering nearly 3 billion subscribers; in Q4 2025 the company announced definitive commercial agreements with Verizon (US) and STC Group (Saudi Arabia and other Middle East/Africa markets), with the STC 10-year agreement including a $175 million prepayment received in 2025.

  • Abel Avellan Confirmed 00:02:02

    Recently announced partnerships include Orange, Telefónica, CK Hutchison, and Taiwan Mobile, with progressing initiatives with Vodafone; total contracted revenue commitments from commercial partners exceed $1 billion.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:13:39

    2025's major customer deals were definitive commercial agreements with Verizon and STC Group, joining AT&T and Vodafone; the company also formally unveiled Satellite Connect Europe and its leadership team as the European distribution joint venture with Vodafone, and expects to sign additional definitive agreements in 2026 as relationships with existing partners mature beyond the investor MNOs.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 01:02:36

    The company is currently at $1.2 billion in contracted backlog, which is still a low number relative to overall expected revenue potential; backlog contribution to any individual year's revenue will be a minority share — for the ~$1 billion 2027 goal, that translates to roughly $100 to $300 million depending on the year.

Government and Defense Business

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  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:13:39

    The U.S. government was a significant contributor to 2025 revenue; the company executed against its existing 10 contracts across an expanding list of agencies, developing capabilities including for the Golden Dome project. Government revenue is not dependent on full constellation deployment and instead scales with satellite count, making it an early, reliable revenue contributor with potential to grow into programs of record worth billions of annual revenue in aggregate.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:13:39

    The company recently announced status as a prime contractor to the U.S. government and received a $30 million contract award from the Space Development Agency for the Europa Track 2 Commercial Solutions Program, focused on resilient, low-latency tactical satellite communications directly between government and devices.

  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:13:39

    Regarding the Golden Dome project, the company continues executing against its current SDA contract and was recently awarded an IDIQ contract under the U.S. Missile Defense Agency's SHIELD program.

  • Abel Avellan Company Guidance 00:43:49

    Satellites are designed to manage government and commercial (MNO) applications on a single platform simultaneously; the company does not need separate satellites with different payloads exclusively for government customers, since the core applications for both are already used in combination.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:49:48

    On the mix of 2027 revenue between government and commercial: the company sees the commercial (D2D) business as ultimately bigger at scale — the long-standing premise — though government revenue has trended up over the last year or two and could add multiple billions of annual revenue depending on various use-case contract outcomes.

Balance Sheet, Capital Raises, and Debt Management

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  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    On a pro forma basis, inclusive of the February 2026 convertible notes offering (2.25% 10-year coupon, effective strike price of $116.30 per share) and available ATM liquidity, cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash as of December 31, 2025 were approximately $3.9 billion.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    Primary drivers of the cash increase were two convertible notes offerings in October 2025 and February 2026 totaling approximately $2.2 billion of net proceeds, plus approximately $706 million of net proceeds from the 2025 ATM facility during Q4, leaving approximately $80 million available under that facility.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    Since the last earnings call, the company reduced debt by converting approximately $457 million of the outstanding $460 million January 2025 convertible notes into 19.2 million Class A shares, and $250 million of the outstanding $575 million July 2025 notes into 4.5 million Class A shares, and will continue looking at attractive debt-reduction efforts as the year progresses.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 00:19:12

    Given the $3.9 billion pro forma cash and ATM availability, the company is now fully funded to manufacture and launch a constellation of over 100 satellites for worldwide space mobile service, with increased financial flexibility for further investments; there are no current plans to pursue additional convertible debt.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 00:41:02

    In response to a question about why AST raised just over $1 billion more in February despite already being fully funded for 100+ satellites in October: the extra funds provide flexibility beyond the first 100-satellite constellation — to accelerate global spectrum deployment, monetize technology for emerging AI commercial opportunities, enhance investment in U.S. government space opportunities, reduce higher-interest debt, and pursue opportunistic investments — not because anything changed about the fully-funded status of the initial constellation.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 01:05:19

    Regarding whether improved capital-market access might push the company beyond the 90-satellite figure referenced in the 10-K: the company doesn't feel it needs to look beyond what it has already raised, since building out the constellation should generate positive operating cash flow; extra capital mainly provides flexibility for opportunistic investments including the spectrum strategy.

Q4 2025 Opex/Capex Detail and Q1 2026 / FY2026 Guidance

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  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    Q4 2025 non-GAAP adjusted operating expenses were $95.7 million versus $67.7 million in Q3, a $28.0 million increase driven mainly by a $23.4 million rise in adjusted cost of revenues tied to gateway deliveries, plus a $3.5 million increase in adjusted R&D and $3.0 million increase in adjusted engineering services costs, partly offset by a $1.9 million decrease in adjusted G&A. Excluding cost of revenue, Q4 adjusted opex was $66.8 million versus $62.2 million in Q3, in line with prior mid-$60s million guidance.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    Full-year 2025 non-GAAP adjusted operating expenses less adjusted cost of revenues totaled approximately $224 million, compared to $151.8 million for full-year 2024.

  • Andy Johnson Confirmed 00:19:12

    Capital expenditures for Q4 2025 were approximately $407 million versus approximately $259 million in Q3 2025, above the prior guidance of $275-325 million, mainly due to intentional growth investments accelerating satellite material purchases and the timing of launch contract payments.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 00:19:12

    For Q1 2026, adjusted operating expenses excluding cost of revenues are estimated at approximately $70 to $80 million; capital expenditures are expected to remain flat with Q4 2025 in a range of $350 to $425 million, primarily driven by near-term launch payment timing.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 00:19:12

    Full-year 2026 revenue is guided to a range of $150 to $200 million, driven by gateway deliveries, U.S. government contracted milestones, and MNO consulting services, with potential upside from initial commercial service revenue recognition; approximately half of this year's commercial pipeline revenue opportunity is already booked or contracted.

  • Andy Johnson Company Guidance 01:06:42

    Clarifying opex guidance in response to an analyst question: the mid-$60s million adjusted opex figure (excluding cost of revenue) does not include spectrum lease/licensing costs, since those are capitalized until the company starts monetizing that asset; the company is still awaiting FCC approval and will speak to spectrum costs as a specific line item once that monetization begins.

2026-2027 Revenue Outlook and Growth Trajectory

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  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:13:39

    In 2026, before the impact of commercial service revenue, the company expects revenue to at least double versus 2025, further de-risked by the contracted pipeline with upside from additional government contract wins.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:13:39

    2027 is expected to be the first full-year impact of commercial service revenue as the AST SpaceMobile service becomes available to hundreds of millions of subscribers across some of its best markets; government revenue is also expected to continue multiplying. The company sees the 2027 opportunity approaching $1 billion in annual revenue, comprised of long-term contracted or highly recurring revenue, subject to achieving commercial and government service objectives.

  • Scott Wisniewski Speculation 00:49:48

    Declined to give a specific 2028 revenue figure when asked, keeping remarks to the stated 2027 goal; noted the demand drivers tracked for 7-8 years of company history remain intact and stronger by the day.

  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 00:52:13

    On whether to use Q4 2025 as a 2026 quarterly baseline: better to think about 2026 annually rather than quarter-over-quarter, since commercial revenue isn't yet consistent and government revenue is building but still well below its potential; 'at least doubling where we hit in 2025' is the right framing, with quarter-to-quarter variability expected before commercial service begins in the second half of 2026.

Margins, Profitability, and Long-Term Business Model

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  • Scott Wisniewski Company Guidance 01:03:47

    In response to a question noting services gross margins around 90%: satellite industry margins historically run 80%+ when performing well, and some businesses have 90%+ flow-through margins in certain segments without reporting it that way. The fixed-cost base and revenue-share go-to-market model ('super wholesale') give the business substantial operating leverage, which could contribute to an EBITDA margin in the 90% area or higher over time.

Future R&D, New Product Opportunities, and IP

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  • Abel Avellan Speculation 00:38:36

    The most difficult aspects of R&D — high power production, large sensitive aperture, high processing power via the custom ASIC, and cost-effective power generation — are complete and integral to current operations. New opportunities being explored include radar, power generation, and multiplying spectrum usage via AI combined with the large aperture, which could multiply the usable spectrum (e.g. from 50 MHz) by an estimated 3x to 10x — explicitly framed as a future possibility, not a firm commitment.

  • Abel Avellan Speculation 00:45:47

    In response to a question about a specific AST patent for thermal management (dissipating heat locally at each antenna, redirecting heat during extreme cold): the company vertically integrated 95% of its technology, including power production at roughly 10x lower cost per square meter than historical satellite manufacturers, enabling it to dissipate significant wattage per square meter within space power constraints — a differentiator relevant to future data-center-in-space and AI spectrum-management opportunities. Avellan reiterated the largest addressable market is still true broadband direct to the handset, positioning space as a 'third leg' of communications alongside Wi-Fi and cellular.

MWC Barcelona and Additional Announcements

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  • Scott Wisniewski Confirmed 00:59:16

    Confirmed the executive team was taking the call from a conference room in Barcelona during Mobile World Congress; there was a flurry of partnership announcements on the day of the call, and more announcements were expected through the rest of the week.

Watch Items9

  • BlueBird 7 orbital launch on New Glenn from Cape Canaveral (first reuse of a New Glenn first stage)

    Expected March 2026 Abel Avellan 00:02:02
  • 45-60 satellites deployed/ready for orbit by year-end (target ~60 ready to ship, 45 in orbit)

    By end of 2026 Abel Avellan 00:02:02
  • Next batch of six stacked satellites shipped to Cape Canaveral

    April 2026 (about 3 weeks from shipment to launch under ideal conditions) Scott Wisniewski 00:58:39
  • Mid-band constellation launches begin (using L- and S-band spectrum)

    By end of 2026 Abel Avellan 00:36:22
  • AST5000 ASIC chip integration into Block 2 BlueBird satellites

    First half of 2026 Abel Avellan 00:02:02
  • Initial commercial service (beta) activation in key markets (US, Europe, Japan, Saudi Arabia)

    Second half of 2026 Andy Johnson 00:19:12
  • FCC approval enabling monetization/expensing of L- and S-band spectrum lease costs

    Pending, no specific date given Andy Johnson 01:06:42
  • 2027 revenue target of approaching $1 billion (first full year of commercial service revenue)

    Full-year 2027 Scott Wisniewski 00:13:39
  • Additional partnership/business announcements during MWC Barcelona

    Rest of the week of the earnings call Scott Wisniewski 00:59:16

Open Questions4

  • How will 2028 revenue potential split between government and commercial (B2B) customers, and how will the mix between communications, intelligence, and on-orbit compute evolve? (Scott Wisniewski declined to give 2028-specific figures, addressing only the 2027 goal.)

    Colin Canfield (analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald) 00:49:14
  • When exactly will the FCC approve AST's spectrum monetization, allowing L- and S-band lease costs to move from capitalized to a specific operating-expense line item?

    Greg Pendi (analyst, ClearStreet) 01:06:22
  • How achievable is the speculated 3x-10x spectrum-capacity multiplier from combining the large phased-array aperture with AI-driven spectrum management, and on what timeline?

    Abel Avellan 00:38:36
  • Will the improved stacking/manufacturing cadence allow a multi-satellite launch as early as April 2026, or will cadence remain roughly 2 months after the March launch? (Scott Wisniewski confirmed an April shipment target but would not commit to a specific launch date.)

    Brian Graff (analyst, Deutsche Bank) 00:57:26
2026-03-03 1:14:00

Anpanman - Billion Dollar Bluebirds: Inside the AST SpaceMobile Inflection Point

Anpanman

Anpanman delivers a solo analysis of AST SpaceMobile's Q4/FY2025 earnings call. He characterizes it as the most bullish call in the company's five-plus year history, now that the business has moved from a developmental story to tangible, recurring revenue.

He walks through $71 million in Q4 revenue, $3.9 billion in pro forma cash, 2026 guidance of $150-200 million, and a 2027 goal of approaching $1 billion. Newly disclosed 90%+ long-term gross/EBITDA margins, he argues, justify a Palantir-like valuation multiple.

He also covers a production delay tied to solving a satellite-stacking engineering problem for the new composite Block 2 BlueBirds, plus new partnerships (SatCo's MWC carrier wins, Taiwan Mobile). The competitive landscape with Starlink Direct-to-Cell also comes up, after Deutsche Telekom announced a 2028 Starlink partnership the same day.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile reported $71 million in Q4 2025 revenue, the top end of its previously guided $50-75 million second-half-2025 range, with government contracts as the largest contributor (10 active contracts as of year-end 2025, now roughly 11 with a recent award).
  • The company is now pro forma at $3.9 billion in cash after its convertible note raises and ATM sales, which management says fully funds the initial ~100-satellite constellation, with about $80 million of ATM capacity still available; management said it does not need to raise additional funding for the near-to-medium term.
  • 2026 revenue guidance was set at $150-200 million, below Wall Street's prior consensus of roughly $233 million, but management said more than half of that guidance is already contracted; for 2027 the company said it could see annual revenue approaching $1 billion, well above the Street's 7-analyst consensus of about $726 million, though Anpanman stresses this is a goal, not a stated base case.
  • Management disclosed for the first time explicit long-term margin targets of roughly 90% gross margin and 90%+ EBITDA margin, driven by a high-fixed-cost, low-incremental-cost, revenue-share model with MNOs; Anpanman compares this favorably to Palantir's 84% gross margin and 47x/33x 2026/2027 revenue multiples to argue AST deserves a software-like valuation once its constellation scales.
  • Total contracted revenue commitments from partners rose to $1.2 billion this quarter, up from about $1 billion in Q3 2025, with management suggesting the eventual contribution could run $100-300 million per year and that the current figure likely undershoots what will actually be realized.
  • The company disclosed a production delay: the first batch of new Block 2 composite BlueBird satellites, originally expected around December/January/February, has slipped to an April 2026 shipment, driven by the engineering challenge of 'stacking' multiple large composite satellites (compared to stacking a five-story building) inside a rocket fairing; management says this stacking problem has now been solved.
  • The company still targets roughly 45 satellites in orbit and 60 shipped by the end of 2026, and now expects to reach a fully-assembled-and-tested cadence of 6 satellites per month by the second half of 2026 (previously targeted by end of 2025).
  • AST signed an agreement with a new heavy launch vehicle provider as a standby customer in its manifest, in addition to Blue Origin New Glenn, SpaceX Falcon 9, and ISRO; Anpanman speculates (unconfirmed) that this new provider is Mitsubishi Heavy.
  • Satellite Connect Europe (SatCo), AST's joint venture with Vodafone, announced Mobile World Congress partnerships with Orange, Telefónica, and CK Hutchison alongside three Vodafone subsidiaries, and AST separately announced a new partnership with Taiwan Mobile, its first carrier deal in Taiwan.
  • The same day, Deutsche Telekom — Europe's largest MNO — announced a partnership with Starlink Direct-to-Cell (Starlink Mobile), targeting a 2028 service rollout contingent on SpaceX's Starship reaching commercial launch cadence around mid-2027; Anpanman frames the market as an emerging duopoly where many carriers may ultimately use both AST and Starlink for different needs rather than a fully zero-sum outcome.
  • Sell-side reaction was mixed but not negative: Cantor Fitzgerald kept an $80 price target (overweight), UBS held a $43 target, Barclays remained underweight at $60, and bulls Deutsche Bank/ClearStreet stayed at $137; Anpanman expects a broadly neutral-to-positive tomorrow with the stock already trading up on the print.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

FY2025 results and the shift to a revenue-generating business

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    This was the first earnings call where the company felt like it was fully in the revenue-generating stage rather than a story investors had to take on faith; 2025 financial performance was strong and management gave both 2026 guidance and color on 2027 and end-of-decade revenue potential.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Q4 revenue came in at $71 million, the top end of the $50-75 million range the company had guided for the second half of 2025; Anpanman understands the company had hoped to exceed $75 million but was held back by timing issues including the government shutdown.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Management (he believes it was Scott Wisniewski) told investors to evaluate the business on full-year guidance rather than trying to model individual quarters, since timing of deployments and awards is hard to predict quarter to quarter; Anpanman viewed this as a smart expectation-setting move.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Government revenue was the largest contributor to the $71 million; the company had 10 active government contracts as of end of 2025, which is now roughly 11 with the most recent award, and Scott Wisniewski had previously (at UBS) framed 2026 as a government-revenue-dominated year in the 'low hundreds of millions.'

Cash position and capital strategy

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Pro forma, including the recent convertible debt raise and ATM sales, the company now has $3.9 billion of cash; management explicitly said they do not need to raise additional funding for the near-to-medium term, though roughly $80 million of ATM capacity remains available.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    The $3.9 billion fully funds the initial constellation of about 100 satellites; additional capital raised beyond that would go toward accelerating the business, including monetizing the company's spectrum bands.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Speculating on rumors that AST might acquire Iridium or a similar company, Anpanman argues this is unlikely given management's no-near-term-fundraising stance and technical complications — Iridium holds only one spectrum band (no dedicated uplink/downlink), which would require time-division rather than full-duplex operation and add significant complexity; he thinks spectrum expansion is more likely via partnerships than M&A.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Abel Avellan said the company expects to start production of mid-band BlueBird satellites at the end of this year (2026); Anpanman guesses the extra capital raised was partly used to pull forward procurement of materials for mid-band satellites, given elevated capex on production materials.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    CFO Andy Johnson said the company is acutely focused on reaching profitability so it no longer needs to raise capital; Anpanman doesn't expect the company to pursue buybacks or dividends even once profitable, arguing it should keep reinvesting in R&D and new opportunities (defense, AI data centers) rather than risk falling behind like legacy companies that prioritized capital return over reinvestment.

2026/2027 revenue guidance and contracted commitments

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    2026 revenue guidance was set at $150-200 million, versus Street consensus of $233 million for 2026; Anpanman calls the guidance conservative but notes management said over half of it is already contracted, which de-risks the number, with upside tied to government milestones and contract awards through the year.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Management said the company could see 2027 annual revenue approaching $1 billion; Anpanman stresses this is a goal/target they feel good about, not an explicitly stated base case, and it's contingent on the constellation being up and commercial service launching (with likely delays baked in).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    For comparison, Street consensus for 2027 (based on 7 analyst estimates) is $726 million; Anpanman argues that if the company hits even a conservative ~$900 million in 2027, analysts will likely need to cut 2026 estimates but raise 2027 estimates.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Total contracted revenue commitments from partners rose to $1.2 billion this quarter from about $1 billion in Q3 2025; management indicated annual contribution from these commitments could run $100-300 million per year, and suggested the $1.2 billion figure likely understates what will ultimately be realized.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    In response to an analyst asking whether 2028 revenue could be $1.5-3 billion (multiples of the $1 billion 2027 goal), Scott Wisniewski pushed back on giving a specific 2028 number but said that by the end of the decade the company should be doing multiples of $1 billion, driven by broader subscriber uptake and turning on additional MNOs/markets.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Citing a tweet by Kevin Chen, Anpanman lays out the revenue trajectory: 2024 revenue of $4.4 million, 2025 at $71 million, 2026 guided to $150-200 million, 2027 targeted near $1 billion, with 2027-2028 potentially at least doubling to $2-3 billion, and end-of-decade revenue potentially around $7-10 billion (his own extrapolation/spitballing).

Margins and valuation framework versus Palantir

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    An analyst noted the quarter's service revenue carried roughly a 90% gross margin; Scott Wisniewski confirmed 90% is the expected long-term gross margin given the high fixed-cost base (mostly building and launching satellites) and minimal incremental cost of adding subscribers once satellites are in orbit.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Scott Wisniewski said the company should have EBITDA margins of 90% or higher over time, driven by the largely fixed cost base and revenue-share go-to-market model with MNOs.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Q1 2026 operating expense is projected around $90 million (reflecting continued hiring), while Q1 2026 capex is projected at $350-425 million, mostly tied to launch payments.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Anpanman compares the setup to Palantir, which he cites as doing about $7 billion of revenue this year at an 84% gross margin and roughly $4.2 billion of EBITDA (2025 revenue $4.5 billion growing to $7.2 billion in 2026 and $10.3 billion in 2027), trading at 47x 2026 revenue and 33x 2027 revenue; he argues AST's disclosed 90%+ margins on high-quality recurring revenue merit a similar high-multiple, software-like valuation rather than comparisons to low-margin space-hardware peers with 30-50% EBITDA margins at best.

Technology: spectral efficiency, bent-pipe architecture, and AI applications

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The company reported 3,850 patents and patent-pending claims, up from 3,800 the prior quarter (roughly 50 added), a slower pace than before; Abel Avellan attributed the slowdown to having largely achieved the technology needed to deploy the network. The company had about 700 patents in 2021.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Management discussed capturing commercial AI opportunities including precise geolocation (which Anpanman interprets as a GPS/PNT alternative) and radar/sensing technology; Anpanman speculates there are additional undisclosed defense use cases such as jamming/electronic warfare that the company wouldn't discuss publicly.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Abel Avellan discussed the possibility of multiplying spectral efficiency from the current roughly 3-4 bits per hertz by a factor of 3 to 10x; Anpanman calls this a huge claim (flagging it as something he's not fully sure how to interpret) and speculates it could relate to AI optimization work, possibly involving Cohere, which he says is speculated to be a partner.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    The company said it can already exceed the previously stated 120 Mbps peak data rate; Anpanman infers this suggests BlueBird 6 testing is going well, and floats (as speculation) that if spectral efficiency gains of 10x prove real combined with enough satellites on low-band spectrum, AST could eventually replace terrestrial towers in suburban (non-dense) areas.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Management reiterated the company's bent-pipe architecture processes signals at the ground gateway (eNodeB) rather than onboard the satellite, making the network protocol-agnostic across 4G, 5G, and eventually 6G (Abel jokingly said even '7G'); Anpanman contrasts this with Starlink, which he says puts the eNodeB/processing on the satellite itself, creating higher long-term obsolescence risk if protocols evolve, though he notes Starlink's ~3-year satellite life may limit that risk in practice.

Government and defense contracts

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Government contracts are structured around milestones and per-satellite deployments rather than requiring the full constellation, so revenue grows as more satellites launch; the company now has roughly 11 active government contracts (up from 10 at year-end 2025), any of which could grow into multi-billion-dollar, multi-year 'programs of record' if won at scale.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Management discussed Golden Dome, the SDA's $30 million award, and the company's inclusion in the MDA SHIELD program, framing this as a shift from speculating about Golden Dome relevance to actually being part of it and eligible for further awards.

Commercial partnerships and global footprint

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The company sold 15 commercial gateways in 2025, delivered to 9 different MNO customers across 5 continents, which Anpanman says shows gateway sales are being staged ahead of commercial service activation across broad geographies.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Management confirmed the Saudi Telecom (stc) $175 million prepayment, agreed in late 2025, was received into the bank by the end of 2025.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Satellite Connect Europe (SatCo), AST's joint venture with Vodafone, announced Mobile World Congress partnerships with Orange, Telefónica, and (newly) CK Hutchison, alongside three Vodafone subsidiaries; Anpanman believes this strengthens SatCo's position to win an EU 2 GHz spectrum allocation coming up in 2027, given 4 of Europe's top 5 carriers are now backing the plan.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Anpanman speculates, based on Space Mob due diligence, that British Telecom, Telecom Italia, and one other carrier may also join SatCo, and notes the company said on the call that it was not done with Mobile World Congress announcements, implying more partner news could come that week.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The company separately announced a new partnership with Taiwan Mobile, Taiwan's second-largest carrier (behind Chunghwa Telecom) — AST's first carrier deal in Taiwan; Anpanman notes Taiwan's unique need for resilient nationwide connectivity given both natural-disaster risk and the geopolitical threat from China.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Management said it expects to add more MNO partners and definitive agreements in 2026.

Competitive landscape: Starlink Direct-to-Cell and Deutsche Telekom

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The same day, Deutsche Telekom (Europe's largest MNO, majority owner of T-Mobile US) announced a partnership with Starlink Direct-to-Cell ('Starlink Mobile'), targeting a service rollout in 2028; Anpanman notes this had been anticipated since Elon Musk's 2022 announcement but was delayed because Starlink's current satellites produce large, non-fixed cells that made cross-border interference control difficult for a market like Germany.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    SpaceX disclosed that Starship is targeted to reach commercial launch cadence by mid-2027, which Anpanman says explains the 2028 Deutsche Telekom timeline, since Starlink's direct-to-cell approach needs thousands of small (roughly 5m x 5m array), very-low-orbit satellites versus AST's roughly 100 satellites with 15m x 15m arrays.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Anpanman speculates Deutsche Telekom's Starlink announcement is also strategically timed to support EchoStar/SpaceX's push for renewal of European 2 GHz spectrum rights, which comes up for reallocation in May 2027; he flags the wildcard that Elon Musk is not well-liked in the EU as a factor to watch in how that spectrum gets allocated.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Anpanman frames the direct-to-device market as an emerging duopoly rather than zero-sum: many carriers will likely use both AST and Starlink for different needs (e.g., data sovereignty and network control favoring AST versus other operational tradeoffs favoring Starlink), with some markets seeing multiple carriers split between the two providers.

Manufacturing update and the satellite-stacking challenge

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The company reported BlueBird 8 through 29 at various stages of production, up from a range he recalls as roughly 8 through 19 reported on the Q3 call (Anpanman flags his recollection of the prior figure as uncertain/garbled); it expects to complete Micron assemblies for 40 satellites by the first half of 2026, a one-quarter slip from a prior first-quarter-2026 target.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    The first batch of new Block 2 composite BlueBird satellites (BlueBird 8 and beyond), previously expected around December/January/February, has been pushed to an expected shipment in April 2026; Anpanman attributes this to the inherent difficulty of developing new composite satellite shells, which due-diligence conversations suggested would take longer than expected.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Management disclosed the delay was tied to solving how to 'stack' multiple large composite BlueBirds for launch — Abel Avellan compared stacking six to eight BlueBirds to stacking a five-story building, given the structural load the bottom satellites must bear; management says this stacking problem has now been solved and the company is 'full steam ahead' on production.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The company is acquiring another manufacturing site in Midland, pushing total manufacturing footprint (previously near 500,000 sq ft) well past 500,000 square feet.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    The company achieved a cadence of 6 satellites' worth of Micron production per month by the end of 2025, but the fully-assembled-and-tested 6-satellites-per-month cadence, previously targeted for end of 2025, is now expected by the second half of 2026 (around June 2026).

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    The company's stated target is roughly 45 satellites in orbit and 60 shipped by the end of 2026; Anpanman is fairly confident in this, noting that even if the company misses by about 5 satellites it wouldn't be a big concern, since space hardware programs (citing Starlink's own beta delays and Rocket Lab's Neutron delays) routinely take longer than planned.

Launch cadence and providers

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    The company reiterated having 13 launches lined up across various vehicles, including New Glenn for BlueBird 7, and previously said it has launches booked for roughly 75 satellites in total; Anpanman assumes that overbooking figure still holds, though the company did not explicitly restate it this call.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    The company signed an agreement with a new heavy launch vehicle provider, becoming a standby customer on its manifest; Anpanman speculates (unconfirmed) this is Mitsubishi Heavy, citing Mitsubishi's recent successful launches, historical Japan Import-Export Bank financing angles, and AST's close relationship with Rakuten, plus an earlier Abel name-drop of Mitsubishi on the Q3 call. Other candidates he considered and largely ruled out include Falcon Heavy, Ariane, and ULA.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    BlueBird 7 is expected to launch on New Glenn 3, which Anpanman expects in March 2026 (guessing second half of March, explicitly not March 6 as one tweet had speculated).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    After the April 2026 batch shipment of new composite BlueBirds, Anpanman expects roughly 2-3 weeks of integration time before launch, putting the next big batch launch in late April or early May 2026; based on Abel's on-call comment about having '1 batch of 6' ready to ship in April (rather than two batches of 3), plus due-diligence suggesting a New Glenn slot may be freeing up, Anpanman speculates this next launch will be New Glenn 4 carrying 6 (potentially up to 8) BlueBirds, which would be a notably fast turnaround for Blue Origin about a month after New Glenn 3.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    In response to a listener question, Anpanman estimates (without certainty) that Rocket Lab's Neutron could fit about 2 BlueBird satellites per launch, though he's unsure whether using Neutron would be economical alongside New Glenn as the primary heavy vehicle.

Analyst reactions and stock reaction

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Cantor Fitzgerald (analyst Colin Canfield) kept its price target at $80 with an overweight rating overnight; Anpanman guesses Canfield wants to see the first new-batch shipment succeed before raising the target.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Anpanman expects UBS ($43 price target) to potentially raise its target somewhat while staying neutral, Barclays (underweight, $60) to possibly nudge its target up while staying underweight or neutral, and bulls Deutsche Bank and ClearStreet ($137) to likely hold steady; he predicts other analysts will stay broadly neutral on ratings tomorrow.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Unlike other space companies (he cites Rocket Lab, BlackSky, and Redwire as having negative reactions to their own recent quarterly results), AST's stock traded up on the print despite the production/launch delays, which Anpanman attributes to the market already expecting some delay and being more focused on the strongly bullish revenue, cash, and margin disclosures.

Watch Items9

  • BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin New Glenn 3

    March 2026 (Anpanman guesses second half of March; explicitly not March 6) Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Shipment of first batch of new Block 2 composite BlueBird satellites (BlueBird 8+)

    April 2026 Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Next big satellite batch launch after BlueBird 7, speculated to be New Glenn 4 carrying 6 (possibly up to 8) BlueBirds

    Late April to early May 2026 (Anpanman's estimate) Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Target of 45 satellites in orbit and 60 satellites shipped

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Fully assembled-and-tested production cadence of 6 satellites per month

    Second half of 2026 (around June 2026) Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Q1 2026 operating expense (~$90 million) and capex ($350-425 million) guidance

    Q1 2026 Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Additional Mobile World Congress partner announcements (company indicated more to come)

    Within the week of the March 2026 MWC call Anpanman 00:00:28
  • EU 2 GHz MSS spectrum reallocation decision, relevant to SatCo and the competing Starlink/EchoStar bid

    May 2027 Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Deutsche Telekom's Starlink Direct-to-Cell service rollout, contingent on SpaceX Starship reaching commercial cadence

    Starship commercial cadence targeted mid-2027; DT service targeted 2028 Anpanman 00:00:28

Open Questions5

  • What exactly did Abel Avellan mean by potentially multiplying spectral efficiency 3-10x beyond the current 3-4 bits per hertz, and how would that be achieved (AI optimization, carrier aggregation, MIMO)?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Was Abel Avellan's comment about having '1 batch of 6' ready to ship in April meant literally, or did he actually mean two batches of 3 (a possible language/phrasing ambiguity), and which launch vehicle will carry it?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • How will the EU allocate its 2 GHz MSS spectrum given competing sovereign-satellite bids from SatCo (AST/Vodafone) and EchoStar/SpaceX (backed now by Deutsche Telekom), especially given reported friction between Elon Musk and EU regulators?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Will the company actually hit its 45-satellites-in-orbit / 60-shipped target by end of 2026 given the stacking-related delay already experienced this quarter?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Which company is the newly signed heavy launch provider — is it in fact Mitsubishi Heavy, as speculated, or one of the other candidates considered (Falcon Heavy, Ariane, ULA)?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
2026-03-02 56:11

Kook's Weekly - March 1 - From Mañana to Hoy: The AST SpaceMobile Inflection Point

Kook · Unidentified guest

Kook delivers a solo 'Kook's Weekly' recap centered on AST SpaceMobile's $30 million Space Development Agency prime contract — 60% of an available $50M budget, against 18 other bidders. He frames it as government validation of the network's dual-use tactical value.

He lays out a 'why now' investment thesis contrasting the failed 1990s satellite-phone era with today's cheaper launch costs, global smartphone adoption, and AI-driven data demand. He reviews carrier/technology validation from Rakuten and Vodafone, and previews the upcoming earnings call and expected launch cadence.

He also flags the prospective SpaceX IPO (reportedly targeting a $1.75 trillion valuation) as a major event that should raise Wall Street's awareness of orbital telecom generally.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook highlights that AST SpaceMobile was awarded $30 million of a $50 million Space Development Agency (SDA) budget as a prime contractor for tactical satellite communications testing, beating out 18 other competing companies (taking roughly 60% of the available funding), which he views as strong validation of the network's unique capabilities.
  • Kook argues the 'why now' for AST SpaceMobile rests on launch costs falling from about $28,000 per kilogram to about $5,000 per kilogram thanks to SpaceX, combined with mobile phone subscribers growing from roughly 300 million in 1998 to about 6 billion today, making a space-based cellular network economically feasible in a way it wasn't during 1990s ventures like Iridium and Teledesic.
  • AST SpaceMobile's New Glenn 3 rocket was in final launch preparations (fairing mating, upcoming static fire test) with Kook estimating a launch could occur within about two weeks of this episode, though he says he isn't sure whether Blue Origin/AST will invite outside guests given schedule uncertainty.
  • A Rakuten executive, Anshul Bhatt, publicly said he made a phone call and video call over WhatsApp on a normal handset via the AST SpaceMobile network that 'worked flawlessly,' which Kook cites as third-party validation from a major MNO partner.
  • Kook references a quote from AST's Jennifer Manor stating the company has tested 5G/LTE data rates on its smaller (Block 1/BlueWalker 3-era) satellites and achieved speeds up to 120 megabits per second, with larger, more capable satellites (Block 2) now coming online.
  • A LinkedIn article by Mobile Network editor Keith Dyer describes Vodafone's technical team as 'very firm on the rightness of its technical choice' for AST SpaceMobile, willing to sacrifice first-mover advantage to wait for the tech to be right, emphasizing AST's carrier-neutral, 'bent pipe'/transparent-payload architecture that preserves data sovereignty and 3GPP compatibility for mobile network operators.
  • Kook argues SpaceX's Starlink Direct-to-Cell faces a beamforming/interference problem, claiming mobile network operators tested Starlink's service and blocked it because it interfered with their terrestrial spectrum, and that SpaceX's lack of carrier neutrality (competing directly with MNOs) undermines its position as an ideal partner.
  • Kook discusses SpaceX reportedly considering filing for an IPO as early as the next month, targeting a valuation in excess of $1.75 trillion against roughly $15 billion in revenue (about a 116x revenue multiple), with roughly two-thirds of that revenue from the Starlink satellite business plus about $22 billion in federal contracts; Kook believes this will raise Wall Street's awareness of the broader LEO satellite/orbital telecom opportunity and should benefit AST SpaceMobile's profile.
  • Morgan Stanley added AST SpaceMobile to a world index on the Friday before this episode, which Kook says increases the stock's forced-buyer liquidity and locked-up share count without necessarily moving the price on the announcement day.
  • Kook previews the following day's (Monday) Q4/full-year earnings call, expecting management to discuss New Glenn 3 launch timing, FM1 initial testing results, FCC regulatory filing progress, Golden Dome and other government contracts, Satellite Connect Europe (the renamed Vodafone JV, formerly 'SatCo'), and the company's balance sheet/fully-funded status.
  • Kook predicts AST SpaceMobile will miss its guidance of 5 launches in Q1 given only about 30 days remain in the quarter, expects a March launch of FM2, expects one or possibly two launches in April, and expects a more predictable, higher-frequency launch cadence to emerge by May or June 2026.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

SDA $30 Million Prime Contract

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook opens by saying this week's news 'magnifies the importance' of what AST SpaceMobile is doing, noting that concepts which would have been dismissed as hypothetical two or three years ago (government/military dual-use applications) are now materializing, and that skeptics/experts previously scoffed at these dual-use capabilities as 'pipe dreams.'

  • Kook Confirmed 00:06:45

    AST SpaceMobile was awarded a $30 million contract this week from the Space Development Agency (SDA) as a prime contractor, for testing and demonstrating tactical satellite communication capabilities; Kook states this is separate from the Golden Dome program.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:45

    Kook says the total contract budget was $50 million available to 18 other competing companies, and AST SpaceMobile took $30 million of that, or roughly 60% of the available budget — his interpretation being 'we swept it' and that AST 'must have something special.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:45

    Kook speculates (without confirming) that the timing of this government contract suggests things are 'going pretty well' with FM1 (fully unfurled and communicating) and FM2 (sealed in the fairing awaiting launch), i.e., that government interest is percolating alongside technical progress.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook references a table from @SpaceGrammys comparing government revenue received by various space companies, noting AST SpaceMobile's entry is currently blank/minimal, while he expects government revenue will remain 'a very small minority' of AST's total revenue even as it becomes strategically important, unlike for Palantir or SpaceX/Starlink where government revenue is a larger share.

The 'Why Now' Framework (1990s vs. Today)

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Kook cites an Anpanman tweet contrasting 1998 (about 300 million global mobile subscribers, phones used mainly for voice/budding SMS, average daily phone usage around 3 minutes, low-kilobit speeds) with today (about 6 billion subscribers, megabit-per-second average speeds), arguing this history explains why prior satellite-phone ventures failed and why the market is different now.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook frames his investment thesis as a 'why now' question borrowed from venture-investing logic: the necessary condition is global smartphone adoption, but the actual enabling factor for a viable satellite network business is that launch costs have plummeted — citing a drop from about $28,000 per kilogram to about $5,000 per kilogram thanks to SpaceX — which he contrasts with the high launch costs that undermined 1990s constellations like Iridium and Teledesic.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook identifies AI-driven mobile demand as an additional, newer 'why now' factor not fully appreciated when the original investment thesis was formed, citing a Samsung statement that smartphones are expected to be the main vehicle for consumers to access AI, which he argues will drive increased demand for connectivity and data, and for AST's ability to help operationalize spectrum.

New Glenn 3 Launch Preparations

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  • Kook Speculation 00:06:44

    Kook describes New Glenn 3 launch preparations underway: landing platforms practicing recovery exercises, the fairing moving into the mating facility, and the engine skirt being transported by road, with a static fire test still required before launch.

  • Kook Speculation 00:06:45

    Kook estimates the New Glenn 3 launch could happen 'anytime in the next 2 weeks' from the time of recording, but is unsure whether the company will send out launch invites given schedule uncertainty (in contrast to SpaceX's more predictable Falcon 9 timing).

Golden Dome, Missile Defense, and Military Demand

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  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook connects recent geopolitical events (referencing Iran and a described missile defense of a U.S. carrier group, the USS Abraham Lincoln, where Aegis systems intercepted incoming threats) to the strategic value of resilient space-based communications and sensing, arguing this validates the 'why now' thesis for military-grade satellite connectivity.

  • Kook Rumor 00:11:57

    Kook says he has seen tracking discussion suggesting AST SpaceMobile's BlueBird satellites were positioned over Iran during recent events, implying possible use in intelligence/communications support, though he says he does not want to speculate further on specifics.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook cites a tweet noting the Pentagon's 2026 budget plans include $7.2 billion for space-based sensors, and references a Wall Street Journal report that ballistic missiles aimed at the carrier group were detected in their launch phase using an EWAC surveillance aircraft; Kook speculates AST SpaceMobile's constellation could eventually replace or supplement such aircraft-based detection with more reliable, broader LEO coverage.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook quotes Defense Secretary Hegseth as saying (paraphrased), 'I ultimately don't care what company name is on the side of the satellites, engines, or space case or space planes — the question is, can it scale, and can we scale it fast enough,' framing this as the challenge AST SpaceMobile is positioned to meet for Golden Dome-related defense applications.

Rebutting Skeptics and FUD

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:11:57

    Kook criticizes telecom analyst Tim Farrar, citing a tweet (via 'Nomad Bets') where Farrar reportedly predicted Lynk Global's DoD contract would be 'orders of magnitude more' than AST SpaceMobile's 'paltry $500,000 in government revenues,' which Kook argues has now been proven wrong by the week's $30 million SDA award, though the improved government contracting suggests Farrar's specific prior comparison is outdated.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook argues that as the AST SpaceMobile investor community ('space mob') has accumulated more due-diligence knowledge over time, panic and 'boogeyman' fear around stock declines (citing a recent drop from $130 to $80) has lessened, even as frustration about price declines remains.

Technology and Carrier Validation

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:11:57

    Kook cites a public statement from Rakuten's Anshul Bhatt: 'I made a phone call and video call over WhatsApp. It worked flawlessly on my normal handset,' inviting others to discuss further at Mobile World Congress — cited by Kook as third-party validation of the technology from a major MNO partner.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:11:57

    Kook cites AST's Jennifer Manor ('Spectrum Mama') stating the company has tested 5G/LTE data rates even with its smaller satellites and achieved speeds up to 120 megabits per second, which Kook calls a strong result for handset-based connectivity, noting larger Block 2 satellites are now coming online.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook cites a LinkedIn article by Mobile Network editor Keith Dyer describing Vodafone's technical team as 'very firm on the rightness of its technical choice' and 'prepared to lose first mover advantage and wait for the tech to be right,' which Kook interprets as validating AST SpaceMobile's approach over rushing to market.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook argues AST SpaceMobile's 'bent pipe'/transparent-payload architecture (keeping the base station on the ground and only radio-head antennas in the satellite) is strategically important because it maintains 3GPP compliance, protects mobile network operator data sovereignty, and preserves backward compatibility — reasons he believes carriers like Vodafone and Rakuten remain firm on AST as their technical choice over alternatives.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook references commentary (via Anpanman, attributed to 'Dr. Mike') from an American Tower earnings call stating that 6G is likely to be designed with satellites as an integral part of an integrated network, which Kook frames as evidence the industry is moving away from viewing satellite connectivity as just a niche 'dead zone' filler toward a core network component.

Competitive Landscape vs. SpaceX/Starlink

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  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook argues that despite claims Starlink Direct-to-Cell erased AST SpaceMobile's first-mover advantage, AST remains the true first mover in seamless, standards-based next-generation network connectivity from space, characterizing Starlink's approach as a 'jerry-rigged IoT system.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook claims mobile network operators tested SpaceX's Starlink direct-to-cell service and then blocked it because it was interfering with their terrestrial spectrum, and argues MNOs recognize that partnering with SpaceX (which is not carrier-neutral and competes with them directly) is like 'leading the wolf into the henhouse.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook discusses a geography argument from his own due-diligence document: drawing 100-kilometer interference buffers required for SpaceX's satellite operations around European countries would effectively 'delete' entire countries from coverage, meaning SpaceX cannot cover large parts of Europe, whereas he argues AST SpaceMobile's architecture does not have this limitation.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook notes SpaceX has stated goals for a new product using its S-band spectrum (for which it paid $20 billion), acknowledging SpaceX has real spectrum assets but questioning whether it can achieve the necessary beamforming and how it will access customers given the carrier-neutrality issue.

Satellite Connect Europe and European Spectrum

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  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook notes the Vodafone joint venture formerly known as 'SatCo' has been renamed 'Satellite Connect Europe,' and says the JV continues to pursue access to 2 GHz spectrum from EU regulators while announcing growing numbers of MNOs signing letters of intent (LOIs).

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook speculates that Europe will feel competitive pressure to invest in these sovereign satellite capabilities given recent U.S. geopolitical/military demonstrations, and believes the Iris² (Iris squared) European sovereign satellite program is 'past the point of no return,' though how it will interact with Satellite Connect Europe remains unclear to him.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook says he believes the European JV (Satellite Connect Europe) will ultimately produce billions of dollars of revenue, framing Europe as a market that can only really be served by AST SpaceMobile because of the beamforming/interference constraints that limit SpaceX's coverage there.

SpaceX IPO and Market Structure Implications

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  • Kook Rumor 00:11:57

    Kook says SpaceX is reportedly considering filing for an IPO as early as next month, earlier than he had expected (he previously guessed Q3/Q4), targeting a valuation in excess of $1.75 trillion, though he notes filing does not mean the IPO will price immediately.

  • Kook Rumor 00:11:57

    Citing a tweet from Akash Gupta, Kook states the reported $1.75 trillion valuation implies roughly a 116x multiple on about $15 billion of revenue, comparing it to the Snowflake IPO (which he notes was a poor entry point for investors), and notes about two-thirds of SpaceX's revenue reportedly comes from the Starlink satellite business, alongside about $22 billion in federal government contracts.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook argues the SpaceX IPO will be a major event for Wall Street that increases awareness and liquidity around orbital telecom broadly, which he believes should benefit AST SpaceMobile even though the ultimate share-price impact is uncertain.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:11:57

    Kook notes Morgan Stanley added AST SpaceMobile to a world index on the Friday before this episode, which locks up additional shares (he estimates about another 2% of shares) and adds liquidity, though he says it should not create a price impact on the announcement day since arbitrageurs would have already set up the trade.

IoT and Emerging Use Cases

4
  • Kook Untagged 00:11:57

    Kook discusses Archer Aviation partnering with Starlink to provide high-speed connectivity for its air taxis (supporting passenger internet and real-time flight communications), framing this as validation of a broader need for connectivity in emerging vehicle categories such as air taxis, autonomous vehicles, and drones (which require 'positive control').

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook describes a conversation with an unnamed telecom-background community member ('Space Marauder') about historically large IoT connectivity contract sizes and use cases that failed to materialize a decade ago for commercial reasons, saying he is withholding details until that person publishes their own write-up.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook cites a chart from 'Battery Commodities' showing the total number of IoT-enabled devices rising sharply, and shares a personal anecdote about tagging his belongings with Apple AirTags, speculating that a satellite-powered AST SpaceMobile-enabled AirTag-like asset-tracking product could become a low-cost, high-value use case.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook mentions a 'nice thesis review' tweet from an investor referred to as Michael Sickand (of the 'Kraken' investment), noting Sickand has increased his conviction in AST SpaceMobile based on the enormity of the numbers involved in the opportunity.

Earnings Call Preview

7
  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook previews the upcoming quarterly earnings call (scheduled for the day after this episode), expecting the company to discuss New Glenn 3 launch progress, FM1 initial testing results, evolving regulatory pathways, and their FCC filings, while likely avoiding detailed comment on the Ligado matter since it remains an active bankruptcy case.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook predicts management will describe 'Batch 1' as ready, drawing a comparison to an earlier instance (August) when the company said FM1 was 'ready to ship' but it did not actually ship until October, joking that the company's definition of 'ready to ship' can be loose (his own preferred definition: ready if the launch vehicle could accept the payload at the processing facility).

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook states he believes the company will miss its guidance of 5 launches in Q1 2026 given only about 30 days remain in the quarter, but expects a March launch (FM2), then one or possibly two launches in April, with a more predictable, high-frequency launch cadence developing by May-June 2026 as the 'constellation constipation' clears.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook expects the earnings call to cover Golden Dome and other government contract wins, and hopes management will clarify the distinction between prime and non-prime contractor roles, what other partners they work with, and how these government relationships fit together.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook expects an update on the Satellite Connect Europe strategy, though he doubts the company will reveal much detail on spectrum negotiations; he also expects reassurance on the strong balance sheet and 'fully funded' status, arguing that raising additional capital later doesn't contradict a 'fully funded' claim since that term refers to currently planned commitments, not all future opportunities.

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook speculates the company may set up a separate government-focused corporate shell and potentially separate production facilities for dual-use/government satellites (which may require different hardware like optical inter-satellite links), while noting that dilution from such deals has so far been minor (around 2% of share count).

  • Kook Speculation 00:11:57

    Kook predicts the company is nearing an inflection from what he calls a 'mañana' (tomorrow) phase to a 'hoy' (today) phase of predictable production and launch execution within the next roughly three months, timing that he notes would coincide with the anticipated SpaceX IPO around the end of Q2.

Watch Items7

  • New Glenn 3 launch (requires a static fire test first)

    Possibly within the next 2 weeks from the episode's recording Kook 00:06:45
  • AST SpaceMobile quarterly earnings call

    The day after this episode (Monday afternoon) Kook 00:11:57
  • FM2 satellite launch

    Expected in March 2026 Kook 00:11:57
  • Additional BlueBird launches

    Expected in April 2026, potentially two launches Kook 00:11:57
  • Transition to a predictable, high-frequency launch cadence

    Expected by May-June 2026 Kook 00:11:57
  • Mobile World Congress (Barcelona) coverage of AST SpaceMobile and Vodafone, hoped-for definitive agreement announcements

    This week (around early March 2026) Kook 00:11:57
  • Potential SpaceX IPO filing

    As early as next month (per reported plans), with pricing potentially later Kook 00:11:57

Open Questions6

  • Will Blue Origin/AST SpaceMobile invite outside guests to the New Glenn 3 launch, given the schedule's day-to-day slip risk?

    Kook 00:06:45
  • Will AST SpaceMobile hit or miss its previously stated guidance of 5 launches in Q1 2026?

    Kook 00:11:57
  • What exactly differentiates AST SpaceMobile's role as a 'prime' versus 'non-prime' contractor on various government deals, and how do its various government/defense partners and contracts fit together?

    Kook 00:11:57
  • Will AST SpaceMobile build a separate corporate shell and/or separate production facilities dedicated to government/dual-use satellites, distinct from its core commercial constellation?

    Kook 00:11:57
  • How will the Iris² European sovereign satellite program interact with Vodafone/AST's 'Satellite Connect Europe' joint venture and its pursuit of 2 GHz spectrum?

    Kook 00:11:57
  • Will SpaceX actually file for and complete an IPO in the near term, and at what valuation, and how will that affect market awareness of and investor flows into AST SpaceMobile?

    Kook 00:11:57
2026-03-02 29:53

Anpanman - Quick Pre-Market Opening Discussion: $ASTS $TE

Anpanman

In this solo pre-market space, Anpanman spends most of the episode reacting to the weekend US military strike on Iran's leadership and its implications for markets, defense, and energy stocks. He then pivots to a deluge of AST SpaceMobile news tied to Mobile World Congress.

His headline conclusion is that AST locked up a large chunk of the European carrier market (Orange, Vodafone, Three/Hutchison, Telefónica, and Sunrise all committing to the Vodafone JV Satellite Connect Europe) and added Taiwan Mobile.

In his reading, rival Starlink/Deutsche Telekom's 2028-dated counter-announcement looks aimed at helping EchoStar preserve its European spectrum allocation rather than reflecting near-term competitive readiness. AST's earnings call later that same day is expected to bring further updates.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman hosted a solo pre-market X Space reacting to the US military strike on Iranian leadership over the weekend, arguing markets had already priced in the risk of military action and reacted only mildly, with knock-on effects across space, defense, and energy-related stocks.
  • AST SpaceMobile announced a wave of new European carrier partnerships tied to Mobile World Congress: Orange, Vodafone, Three (Hutchison), and Telefónica all confirmed they will work with Satellite Connect Europe (AST's joint venture with Vodafone), representing four of the top five mobile network operators in Europe, plus the smaller Swiss carrier Sunrise.
  • AST SpaceMobile also announced a new partnership with Taiwan Mobile, one of Taiwan's top three carriers and AST's first carrier deal in Taiwan.
  • Rival Starlink, via T-Mobile parent Deutsche Telekom, announced an intention to partner starting in 2028; Anpanman argues this is timed to help EchoStar's bid to renew its 2 GHz European spectrum allocation ahead of a 2027 deadline, since Starlink's current direct-to-cell satellites are a minimum-viable product that can't yet deliver fixed, border-respecting cell coverage.
  • AST SpaceMobile was scheduled to report earnings after market close the same day; Anpanman expected updates on production cadence (a possible confirmation of six satellites per month) and batch launch/delivery timing.
  • Some of the day's Mobile World Congress-related AST announcements referenced targeting beta service testing this summer, which Anpanman read as a signal that the company's commercial launch timeline remains on track.
  • Anpanman noted heavy Mobile World Congress speaking activity this week from AST's Abel Avellan, Jennifer Manner, and a newly-speaking Scott Wisniewski, alongside Vodafone CEO Margherita Della Valle discussing Satellite Connect Europe and AT&T CEO John Stankey discussing direct-to-device.

Detailed Discussion6 topics

Iran Strike and Market Reaction (Background/Macro)

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Over the weekend, Iranian leadership was reportedly taken out by the US military, beginning what looks like a sustained campaign; US officials indicated no intent to put boots on the ground to nation-build, hoping Iranian domestic pressure produces a new government.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Markets initially reacted negatively over the weekend then rebounded and were only down slightly as of the episode, which Anpanman attributes to the market having already priced in some probability of military intervention given weeks of visible US military buildup in the Middle East.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Reports suggest Russia and China are not intervening militarily or economically to help Iran, and most of the rest of the Middle East region is either supportive of the strikes or taking a step back, aside from Iran's proxies.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Iran has retaliated with missile strikes, including a reported hit on a refinery in Saudi Arabia, but a large share of Iran's missile launchers have reportedly been targeted and destroyed once exposed during launch.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman flagged that if the strikes had failed to remove Iran's leadership, the market reaction could have been much worse, citing a contact ('Allied Capital') who noted extremely negative put-option hedging positioning heading into the weekend.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues investors should review portfolio names for exposure: airline holders may need to reassess given rising oil prices and potential travel disruption, whereas space and defense names should benefit from demonstrated relevance of space assets in the conflict.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Chinese social media accounts claimed to have cataloged US aircraft at Middle East bases before the strikes; Anpanman speculates this may have been a US deception operation (parking decoy jets while flying others), with Planet Labs imagery cited by some as having been used to track strike damage in Iran.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    A Chinese social media post referenced GPS jamming occurring in the Strait of Hormuz, which Anpanman says underscores the value of AST SpaceMobile's work on backup GPS/PNT (positioning, navigation, timing) systems for contested environments.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Anpanman mentioned Israel reportedly using laser technologies to intercept missiles, referencing a company called LASR (discussed by an analyst "Penny Check") as an example of emerging counter-missile tech, clarifying he is not personally invested in it.

AST SpaceMobile — European MNO Partnership Announcements (MWC)

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    On the day of the episode, AST SpaceMobile had three large announcements plus some smaller ones: Orange, Vodafone, "3" (Hutchison), and Telefónica all announced they are working with Satellite Connect Europe, the JV with Vodafone — representing, including Hutchison, four of the top five MNOs in Europe.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Sunrise, a smaller Swiss carrier, also announced it is working with Satellite Connect Europe the same day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman characterized the European landscape as one where AST has 'pretty much locked up' the majority of carriers so far.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Some of the day's announcements referenced beta testing starting this summer, which Anpanman took as a hint that the company's targeted service launch timeline is intact.

Starlink / Deutsche Telekom / EchoStar Spectrum Competitive Dynamics

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Deutsche Telekom, parent of T-Mobile, announced its intention to work with Starlink's direct-to-cell service starting in 2028, coinciding with Starlink Mobile detailing plans for a larger phased array and more precise, fixed cell beams on its next-generation satellites — capabilities Anpanman says AST already has architected from first principles.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman explains the 2028 timing reflects that Starlink's current direct-to-cell satellites are a minimally-viable product using large, non-fixed beams that don't respect country borders, making commercial service difficult until the next-generation satellites are ready.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman's theory: Deutsche Telekom's announcement is strategically timed to help position EchoStar (which Starlink is acquiring spectrum from) to get its 2 GHz European spectrum allocation renewed ahead of a 2027 deadline, since without a carrier sponsor it looked like EchoStar was not going to get the allocation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman believes AST, through its European JV, is well positioned to get a spectrum allocation without needing carrier sponsorship, unlike EchoStar.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman flags Elon Musk's active anti-European political stance as a wildcard that could hurt EchoStar/Starlink's chances of securing the 2 GHz spectrum renewal.

Taiwan Mobile Partnership

3
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile announced a partnership with Taiwan Mobile, one of the top three carriers in Taiwan and AST's first carrier deal in Taiwan; Anpanman noted the market (per Bloomberg) did not appear to have caught the news yet.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman frames Taiwan as strategically important given geopolitical tensions with China and the potential for network disruption in conflict, plus natural disaster risk (typhoons, earthquakes); Taiwan has dense urban coverage but spotty coverage in mountainous/coastal areas that direct-to-device could fill.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman speculates AST may sign additional Taiwanese carriers following the Taiwan Mobile deal.

AST Earnings Preview and Mobile World Congress Activity

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile was set to report earnings after market close the same day; Anpanman's guess is the call will bring color on production cadence, possibly a confirmation of six satellites per month, plus an update on batch launch/delivery and other items.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Mobile World Congress speaking engagements this week were expected to include Abel Avellan, Jennifer Manner, and Scott Wisniewski (a new speaker there); Vodafone CEO Margherita Della Valle spoke about Satellite Connect Europe and AT&T CEO John Stankey spoke about direct-to-device the same day.

Broader Portfolio Commentary (Energy/Solar — T1 Energy, Not ASTS-Specific)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman discussed T1 Energy (ticker referenced as TE) as a solar name he covers, arguing sustained Middle East instability and higher energy prices, combined with US focus on energy security/sovereignty, should be positive for solar given surging AI data center power demand — citing a Zero Hedge post that data center construction growth has now surpassed office building construction for the first time.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Anpanman closed with general risk-management advice: in periods of volatility, avoid overextending on margin/leverage, since retail investors managing risk properly can treat volatility as an opportunity, unlike institutions trying to stay fully hedged.

Watch Items5

  • AST SpaceMobile quarterly earnings call

    after market close, same day as the episode Anpanman 00:00:27
  • AST beta service testing

    this summer Anpanman 00:00:27
  • EchoStar's European 2 GHz spectrum allocation renewal decision

    deadline in 2027 Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Starlink next-generation direct-to-cell satellites/Deutsche Telekom partnership going live

    2028 Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Additional Mobile World Congress news and speaking engagements (Abel Avellan, Jennifer Manner, Scott Wisniewski, partner executives)

    rest of the week Anpanman 00:00:27

Open Questions4

  • Will EchoStar actually secure renewal of its 2 GHz European spectrum allocation given Elon Musk's anti-European political posture as a potential complicating factor?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will the Iran conflict stay contained or escalate into a broader regional conflict, and how would that affect market risk sentiment and energy prices going forward?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will AST SpaceMobile sign additional Taiwanese carriers beyond Taiwan Mobile?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will AST's earnings call confirm the six-satellites-per-month production cadence and provide clarity on batch launch/delivery timing?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
2026-02-27 47:46

Anpanman - Navigating the Wall of Worry: Margin Calls, AI Tizzy, and the SpaceMobile Outlook

Anpanman

In a solo, impromptu midday X Space recorded amid a broad market selloff (Feb 27, 2026), Anpanman walks through the 'wall of worry' hitting high-beta names: Iran tensions, a hot PPI print, a renewed AI-jobs-disruption scare, private-credit stress, and February month-end degrossing.

He argues that AST SpaceMobile's and Rocket Lab's declines that day are almost entirely sector-wide beta rather than company-specific news.

He flags genuinely positive AST developments (the Vodafone SatCo JV website launch and Monday's quarterly update) as being drowned out by macro selling, and contrasts T1 Energy's proven execution against EOS's guidance miss. He closes with recurring advice against margin/leverage and put-selling as 'free money.'

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman held an impromptu midday X Space on February 27, 2026 during a broad market selloff to reassure investors that stock moves that day were mostly sector-wide 'beta' rather than company-specific problems, using AST SpaceMobile and Rocket Lab as his main examples.
  • The selloff was driven by a confluence of factors: escalating Iran tensions (with reported IAEA observations of new activity at a previously bombed facility raising fears of a US/Israel strike this weekend), a hotter-than-expected PPI print reviving rate-hike/no-cut fears, a renewed AI-job-displacement scare after Block announced cutting roughly 40-50% of its workforce (stock gapped up ~20% on that news), stress in private credit and software credit markets, and February month-end portfolio degrossing by hedge funds.
  • AST SpaceMobile announced its Vodafone SatCo joint venture's new branding and a new website on the day of this episode, and Anpanman expects Monday's AST quarterly update to add specifics on production, launch cadence, and satellite shipments to Cape Canaveral, even though the pre-announced Q4 financials (revenue, opex, capex, already disclosed alongside AST's recent convertible note offering) should not be a surprise.
  • Anpanman expects a firm Blue Origin New Glenn launch date for BlueBird 7 to be given in Monday's update; unconfirmed social-media chatter had floated March 6, 2026, but he thinks March 8 or later is more likely based on other data points he's seen.
  • AST SpaceMobile and Rocket Lab trade in tandem as space-sector proxies; Rocket Lab's earnings the prior day (stock down only about 2% despite Neutron rocket's launch slipping to Q4) partly explains AST's weakness, layered on top of broad high-beta selling.
  • Anpanman pushed back on investors conflating T1 Energy with EOS: EOS missed Q4 revenue badly ($58 million actual vs. $94 million consensus) with gross margin of negative 94% (vs. -24% consensus estimate, an improvement from roughly -340% a few quarters ago) due to execution failures in its unproven data-center battery-storage business, while T1 Energy uses proven Trina Solar module/cell technology, already generates profit from an operating module plant, and is projected to post about $369 million of Q4 revenue, 21% gross margin, and $40 million EBITDA, with Street 2026 guidance of about $1.1 billion revenue and $105 million EBITDA (vs. an expected ~$774 million revenue and $21-22 million EBITDA for full-year 2025).
  • Anpanman reiterated his standing advice against heavy margin/leverage, citing an anonymous Twitter trader with a roughly $90 million portfolio (long a stock referred to as 'PATH,' partly funded via ~$20 million of margin on top of ~$19 million of equity) who was forced into repeated margin calls and is now down to about $1 million.
  • Anpanman argued the 'AI is destroying white-collar jobs' narrative — fueled by a viral Citrini piece envisioning roughly 10% unemployment by 2028 — has swung too far, predicting a future bifurcation where human judgment, empathy, and authenticity (especially in sports, music, and content creation) command a premium over AI-generated content.
  • Anpanman warned that selling out-of-the-money puts for perceived 'free money' (citing traders who sold way-out-of-the-money EOS puts right before its 30-40% earnings-day drop) is a dangerous strategy because a large enough move can force additional margin and effectively force buyers to add to a losing long position.

Detailed Discussion7 topics

Market Volatility & the 'Wall of Worry'

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:34

    Started the space to help people 'breathe a little' amid market consternation; stressed the market is a living, breathing thing that has periods of volatility when processing new information or facing a 'wall of worry,' and that today's exaggerated moves partly reflect degrossing and margin calls.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    Russell 2000 was down about 2.2% (later cited as 2.3%) on the day; S&P 500 was down only 0.8% and Nasdaq down 0.7%, illustrating that high-beta names move at a multiple of the broader index move.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Advised building a sector watchlist (e.g., for AST SpaceMobile: Rocket Lab, Firefly, Intuitive Machines, Redwire, Karman; for T1 Energy: First Solar, Enphase, SolarEdge, CSIQ) so investors can distinguish company-specific moves from sector-wide beta co-movement.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Iran tensions were percolating; reports today that IAEA inspectors noticed movement/work around a previously bombed Iranian facility raised concern that talks won't resolve things and that the US and/or Israel may move toward an attack this weekend.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    A hotter-than-expected PPI print, driven by stickiness in services, hit high-beta names hardest because hot inflation reduces the likelihood of rate cuts (and raises the risk of rate hikes), which pressures valuations and non-profitable companies dependent on capital raises.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Noted today is the last trading day of February, so hedge fund portfolio managers (judged on monthly performance reported to LPs) were further exacerbating moves by cutting risk or 'cleaning up their books' into month-end.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    His overall view: inflation is probably cooling, Iran will likely resolve itself, and the AI-jobs pendulum has swung too far — but credit market stress is the one he'd watch most closely, since a real credit event spilling into equities (akin to the Silicon Valley Bank/First Republic failures) could force the Fed to intervene with liquidity.

AST SpaceMobile & the Space Sector

8
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    AST SpaceMobile announced the SatCo joint venture's new name today, with Vodafone putting out a press release and launching a new website — 'great news' — and the AST quarterly update is coming Monday.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Despite the positive SatCo news, the macro backdrop is 'too strong' today, so AST is selling off along with the rest of the space sector.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    Rocket Lab reported earnings yesterday; results were 'okay' and revealed new business areas, but the market focused on Neutron rocket's launch being delayed to (he believes) Q4 of this year; Rocket Lab stock was down only about 2% on the news itself before further macro-driven selling.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    AST SpaceMobile and Rocket Lab trade in tandem as space-sector proxies — when one moves, the other tends to follow — so Rocket Lab's weakness is contributing to AST's decline today on top of broad high-beta selling.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    Monday's update shouldn't surprise on financials since AST already pre-announced Q4 revenue, operating expenses, and CapEx alongside its most recent convertible note offering (done when the stock was around $96); noted the company has been good about timing capital raises to high points in the stock, often right before sector drawdowns.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Things to watch for in Monday's update: an update on production and launch cadence, whether satellite batches get shipped down to Cape Canaveral and when, timing of the next Falcon 9 launch, and — expected — a firm launch date for Blue Origin's New Glenn carrying BlueBird 7.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Someone on Twitter floated March 6, 2026 as a potential BlueBird 7/New Glenn launch date, which he thinks is aggressive; other data points he's seen corroborate a date more like March 8 or sometime thereafter, though the actual date will be confirmed Monday.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    Redwire also reported earnings yesterday with mixed results, but the stock rebounded, which he attributes to the sector having already sold off ahead of the print and then rallying alongside the broader sector.

AI Disruption Narrative

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Earlier this week, a viral piece (he recalled as from 'Citrini') envisioning a 2028 scenario where AI disrupts a large share of white-collar jobs and unemployment rises to 10% sparked an AI-jobs panic ('doommaxing') that rattled the market before dying down as flaws in the analysis were digested.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    Block announced yesterday it would cut roughly 40-50% of its workforce (uncertain on exact figure), and its stock gapped up about 20% on the news, reigniting the AI-replacing-jobs narrative front and center.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Argued there will be winners and losers from AI displacing white-collar knowledge work, but that a certain element of human experience and judgment can't be replaced; predicted the pendulum currently swinging toward 'AI everything' will eventually swing back once people recognize its limits.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Used sports, music, and content creation as examples where human empathy and appreciation of achievement can't be replicated by AI, predicting a future bifurcation where audiences seek out human-generated content (analogous to consumers paying a premium for organic food) even as AI-generated content becomes more prevalent.

T1 Energy vs. EOS

7
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:34

    Some investors were blaming EOS's results for T1 Energy's weakness; Anpanman said he's never really understood the investment thesis behind EOS but listened to its management call after the stock fell over 30%.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    EOS had reiterated Q4 guidance mid-quarter, then missed significantly: analyst consensus was for $94 million of revenue and the company came in at $58 million; consensus gross margin estimate was negative 24%, but actual came in at negative 94% (an improvement from roughly negative 340% a few quarters earlier); Q4 EBITDA was negative $71 million; management attributed the miss to self-inflicted execution issues.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    The Street reportedly still expects EOS's long-term gross margins to reach roughly 16%, 33%, and 28% in out years (exact years not specified), but Anpanman questioned whether revenue-multiple valuation is appropriate at negative gross margins.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Contrasted EOS's brand-new, unproven enterprise battery-storage technology with T1 Energy, which already operates a running, profitable solar module plant and is building a new solar cell fab based on proven Trina Solar designs rather than novel technology — a very different execution-risk profile.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    T1 Energy is projected to report about $369 million of Q4 revenue, 21% gross margin, and $40 million of EBITDA; the company has indicated Q4 revenue alone will exceed the entire prior year's revenue. Street 2026 guidance sits at about $1.1 billion revenue and $105 million EBITDA, versus an expected ~$774 million revenue and $21-22 million EBITDA for full-year 2025.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Checked institutional ownership overlap between T1 Energy and EOS and found some overlap but 'not really that much,' suggesting cross-ownership-driven de-risking only partly explains any co-movement between the two.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    Solar-sector comparables were broadly down: CSIQ down 13%, SolarEdge down 15%, Enphase down 10%; First Solar (viewed as sector proxy) fell from $245 to the low $200s and to $196 after cutting guidance due to Malaysia/Vietnam tariff-driven plant mothballing and India export/tariff issues, though its US demand outlook for 2026 was actually up. T1 Energy had outperformed the sector over the prior two days before catching down today.

Private Credit & Credit Market Risk

4
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:34

    Flagged growing private-credit market stress as a top macro concern, disclosing a small personal position in Pagaya (exposed to private credit/ABS) that has been 'getting absolutely demolished.'

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:34

    Cited recent high-profile credit blowups: a new UK mortgage-lender bankruptcy he believes involved fraud, plus two large US frauds — First Brands and Tricolor — contributing to skittishness in both private and public credit markets.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Software credit has underperformed significantly as private-equity firms (e.g., Vista, Thoma Bravo) that historically ran leveraged buyouts of legacy enterprise software now face disruption risk from AI-native tools (citing Anthropic/Claude as an example of companies building their own tools instead of buying legacy or SaaS software); banks, BDCs, and PE firms have taken large marks this quarter as a result.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Warned that if further credit blowups occur and stress spills into equities, it could force the Fed to intervene with liquidity similar to the Silicon Valley Bank/First Republic episode, and flagged this as the biggest tail risk to watch versus Iran or the AI-jobs narrative.

Margin, Leverage & Risk Management

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Reiterated his long-standing advice to avoid heavy margin/leverage and use it only tactically and sparingly, since being overleveraged can force liquidations at the worst possible time regardless of conviction in a position.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Described an anonymous Twitter trader (previously successful with Tesla and Lemonade on margin) who had roughly a $90 million portfolio — about $19 million of equity margined for another ~$20 million — long a stock referred to as 'PATH,' who has since been forced through repeated margin calls and is now down to about $1 million.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Warned that selling cash-secured or naked puts is not 'free money,' citing traders who sold way-out-of-the-money EOS puts right before its earnings miss and resulting 30-40% stock decline; selling puts while also long stock compounds risk exponentially as losses grow.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Advised investors to re-underwrite their thesis during selloffs — ask whether anything company-specific has actually changed versus just the macro/valuation environment — and that it's fine to do nothing or to take losses and degross if overextended, rather than 'holding on for dear life.'

Upcoming Earnings Calendar

2
  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:34

    AST SpaceMobile will report its quarterly update after market close on Monday; Bridger Aerospace and Strata Critical are also reporting next week among names he's involved in.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:34

    Clarified that despite Twitter chatter suggesting T1 Energy reported earnings this week, the company has not officially set an earnings date; last year it reported March 17th, and Bloomberg has it penciled in for around the same time this year. Expects the eventual report to cover 45X tax credit monetization, the Austin G2 solar cell fab buildout, and offtake agreements.

Watch Items5

  • AST SpaceMobile quarterly update (Q4 financials already pre-announced; watch for production/launch cadence detail, satellite shipments to Cape Canaveral, Falcon 9 timing, and a firm New Glenn/BlueBird 7 launch date)

    Monday, after market close Anpanman 00:00:34
  • BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn

    Rumored March 6, 2026 per unconfirmed Twitter chatter; Anpanman thinks March 8 or later more likely, to be confirmed Monday Anpanman 00:00:34
  • T1 Energy earnings report (date not yet officially set; expected to cover 45X tax credits, Austin G2 solar cell fab, offtake agreements)

    Expected mid-to-late March 2026, similar to last year's March 17th report Anpanman 00:00:34
  • Bridger Aerospace and Strata Critical earnings

    Next week Anpanman 00:00:34
  • Potential US/Israel action against Iran following reported IAEA observations of activity at a previously bombed facility

    This weekend Anpanman 00:00:34

Open Questions4

  • Will Iran tensions escalate into a US and/or Israeli strike this weekend, or will diplomatic talks defuse the situation?

    Anpanman 00:00:34
  • Will further private-credit and software-credit blowups spill over into broader equity valuations, potentially forcing Fed intervention similar to the SVB/First Republic episode?

    Anpanman 00:00:34
  • What will AST SpaceMobile's Monday update reveal about production/launch cadence and the firm BlueBird 7/New Glenn launch date?

    Anpanman 00:00:34
  • When will T1 Energy officially announce its earnings date, and will guidance/offtake details confirm the Street's $1.1 billion 2026 revenue estimate?

    Anpanman 00:00:34
2026-02-23 27:38

Anpanman - Orbital Supremacy: AST SpaceMobile’s $30M Prime Contract and the Billion Dollar Space Pivot

Anpanman

In this solo episode, Anpanman (no Kook) discusses AST SpaceMobile's newly awarded $30 million prime contract from the Space Development Agency for the Halo Europa program. It is the company's first-ever award as a direct prime contractor rather than a subcontractor, and it brings AST's total military/government awards to 11.

He argues that space hardware is a moat resistant to AI disruption (unlike software/services), and sizes the defense opportunity by comparing it to Iridium's roughly $260 million/year in DoD revenue.

He also flags that the contract's delay (due to the government shutdown) likely cost AST a much stronger headline beat on its second-half 2025 revenue guidance.

He closes with near-term catalysts: a BlueBird 7 launch he guesses is coming in early March, a March 2 Q4 earnings update, a pending FCC market application, and a still-unawarded 'Golden Dome Noble' contract. He also notes rising short interest amid a rough macro backdrop.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile (via its AST SpaceMobile USA subsidiary) was awarded a $30 million prime contract by the U.S. Space Development Agency (SDA) for the Halo Europa program, marking the company's first-ever award as a direct prime contractor rather than through a subcontractor arrangement.
  • This brings AST's total cumulative military/government awards to 11, up from 9 as of Q3 2025 and 10 after a January 2026 Golden Dome MDA Shield award.
  • Anpanman believes this SDA Halo Europa award was originally expected to land in 2025 but was delayed by the U.S. government shutdown; had it arrived on schedule, he estimates it would have pushed AST's reported second-half 2025 revenue of $63-71 million up to roughly $93-105 million, well above the company's guided range of $50-75 million.
  • Community research (Space Mob) suggests the Halo Europa Track 2 program had roughly $50 million total available across 19 participating companies, meaning AST's $30 million award represents about 60% of that pool.
  • Anpanman compares the opportunity to Iridium, which he estimates generates about $260 million/year from U.S. Department of Defense and other government work using a narrower low-band voice/data satellite phone service, arguing AST's broadband 3GPP-compatible capability could command similar or higher per-use-case revenue across multiple applications.
  • New FY2026 budget figures show about $2 billion allocated to air moving target indicator satellites and $7.2 billion to space-based sensors (a combined ~$9.2 billion), up from zero allocated to these categories in FY2025 — a budget shift Anpanman says AST is well positioned to capture.
  • The SDA Halo Europa award is separate from AST's earlier Missile Defense Agency (MDA) SHIELD 'Golden Dome' award (announced January 2026), though both fall under the broader Golden Dome umbrella; a third potential 'Golden Dome Noble' award related to space-based sensors and electronic warfare has not yet been announced.
  • Anpanman argues that space hardware businesses like AST SpaceMobile are relatively insulated from AI-driven disruption because building and launching physical satellites ('moving atoms') requires capital-intensive, multi-year physical execution that generative AI cannot replicate, unlike software, legal, or customer-service work.
  • Short interest in ASTS has risen to about 47.8 million shares from a low of about 39 million shares as of January 30, even as the stock price has fallen, which Anpanman says is a sign that more investors are shorting the stock outright rather than convertible-note arbitrage funds reducing their hedges.
  • Upcoming catalysts flagged include a BlueBird 7 launch Anpanman guesses could occur around March 6-8, 2026 (helped by an Artemis mission delay freeing up a Blue Origin New Glenn launch slot), a Q4 2025 earnings update scheduled for March 2, 2026, a pending FCC U.S. market application that could be granted any day, and the unannounced Golden Dome Noble award.

Detailed Discussion6 topics

Macro backdrop and AI-disruption debate

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman opens by describing a snowstorm in New York City and a rough day in the broader market, which he attributes partly to an article/report (referred to as 'the Setrini report' or similar) painting a dire picture of how AI could disrupt the economy and markets; he says the piece paints the worst-case scenario and ignores potential benefits and humans' preference for non-artificial, human-generated content.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman argues that as AI-generated content proliferates, there will eventually be a market premium on human-generated content and authentic products/experiences (drawing an analogy to organic food and handmade Swiss watches), potentially followed by a backlash and new regulations if AI content quality/trust issues get bad enough.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman argues that space/satellite businesses like AST SpaceMobile are comparatively insulated from AI disruption because building a 4-5 ton satellite capable of direct-to-device communications, radar sensing, and PMT/military applications, then launching, testing, and operating it, is an inherently physical, capital- and time-intensive process ('moving atoms') that AI can optimize but cannot replace; he contrasts this with finance, legal, and outsourced customer-service work, which he sees as more exposed to AI disruption.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:33

    Anpanman notes he was discussing this same point with Kook (referred to alongside another individual, name unclear/garbled in the transcript) earlier that morning — that being invested in space is fortunate because the sector is both a strategic U.S. government priority and relatively resistant to AI disruption.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman pushes back on a comment he saw on Twitter/X claiming 'AST SpaceMobile is not a defense stock,' asserting the company clearly is a defense stock given it is winning multiple government/military awards and is well positioned for Golden Dome and proliferated warfighter programs.

$30 million SDA Halo Europa prime contract

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:33

    AST SpaceMobile was awarded a $30 million prime contract today by the U.S. Space Development Agency (SDA) for the Halo Europa program; this is the first-ever prime contract awarded directly to the AST SpaceMobile USA entity, whereas historically AST had worked on Department of Defense contracts as a subprime through other contractors such as Fairwinds, AT&T, and some unnamed contractors that Space Mob has speculated could include Lockheed Martin.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:33

    Today's $30 million award brings AST's cumulative total of military/government awards to 11: it was 9 as of Q3 2025, rose to 10 after the Golden Dome MDA missile-defense award Anpanman says was received in January (2026), and now stands at 11 with today's Halo Europa award.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman believes this award was originally expected to be granted at some point in 2025 but was delayed by the U.S. government shutdown.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Space Mob community members reviewed the program's parameters and found that the Europa Track 2 Commercial Solutions program had roughly $50 million total available, to be split among a pool of about 19 participating companies including AST; AST's $30 million award represents about 60% of that total pool, which Anpanman reads as a strong signal of SDA confidence in AST's ability to deliver.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:33

    The award is focused on direct-to-device tactical communications using a commercial satellite constellation; the SDA's broader goal is a redundant, resilient space architecture where multiple providers (e.g., AST SpaceMobile, Starlink, Iridium) act as layered, complementary systems so that if one is jammed or defeated, others provide fallback communications in contested environments — it is not meant to be a winner-take-all program.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    This SDA Halo Europa award is separate from, though under the same 'Golden Dome' program umbrella as, the earlier MDA SHIELD Golden Dome award AST received (Anpanman says that was announced in January); a third area, referred to as a potential 'Golden Dome Noble' award addressing space-based sensors and integrated non-kinetic/electronic warfare, has not yet been awarded, though Anpanman says Space Mob's track record calling these awards has been '100%' correct on substance, just off on timing.

Revenue impact and guidance

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:33

    President/Chief Strategy Officer Scott Wisniewski had guided second-half 2025 revenue of $50 million to $75 million; the company subsequently reported (as part of its convertible debt offering disclosure) actual second-half revenue of $63 million to $71 million, within but not above the guided range.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman calculates that if the $30 million Halo Europa award had landed on time in the second half of 2025 (absent the government shutdown delay), it would have pushed reported second-half revenue to a range of roughly $93 million to $105 million — significantly above the high end of the $50-75 million guided range — which he believes would have been a much stronger headline for the company.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman plans to ask company management on the upcoming quarterly call whether this award was originally expected in the second half of 2025 and whether, absent the delay, revenue would have come in above the guided range.

Sizing the defense opportunity (Iridium comparison)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman posted an analysis (partly generated with the help of ChatGPT, which he says he reviewed and vetted) sizing the opportunity using Iridium as a comparison: Iridium, a low-band voice/data proprietary satellite phone system used globally, generates roughly $260 million per year in revenue from its Department of Defense and other government agency work, despite offering limited data capacity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman argues AST's broadband, 3GPP-compatible direct-to-device capability (usable by warfighters, drones, jets, missiles, planes, and unmanned underwater vehicles) could be worth at least as much as Iridium's $260 million figure for even a single use case, and that if AST can capture 3-4 such use cases each worth roughly a quarter-billion dollars a year, the cumulative government revenue opportunity would be substantial; he clarifies this isn't about displacing Iridium, since the government wants to retain Iridium alongside additional providers like AST and Starlink for redundancy.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Beyond the initial $30 million prototype award, Anpanman describes a growth path: additional task orders (tens of millions to low hundreds of millions, covering more demo work, mission threads, and capacity buys), then transition to the 'proliferated warfighter' structure (potentially hundreds of millions in revenue, which he has tweeted about), and eventually — once the constellation is fully operational and AST is selling capacity as a service like Iridium — the possibility of a multi-year, multi-billion-dollar DoD contract.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:33

    Anpanman recalls Scott Wisniewski referring to the military business potentially reaching the order of 'hundreds of millions' in revenue; Anpanman's own guess is that this could mean roughly $200-300 million for the coming year.

Government budget shift toward space-based sensing

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:33

    New NDAA budget figures released today show about $2 billion allocated to air moving target indicator satellites and $7.2 billion allocated to space-based sensors (roughly $9.2 billion combined) for upcoming fiscal years, compared to zero dollars allocated to these two categories in the FY2025 budget.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman cites a tweet from the Department of War's CTO reading 'orbital supremacy, one satellite at a time, powered by the arsenal of freedom' as evidence the U.S. government is explicitly signaling where defense space dollars are headed, and argues AST — with 11 awards already — is clearly well positioned to capture part of this budget shift.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:33

    Anpanman notes AST's FM1 and FM2 Block 2 BlueBird satellites are being used as 'Halo' satellites to demonstrate additional government-relevant capabilities that could lead to further awards, and that the government is also separately testing with AST's Block 1 satellites and BlueWalker 3.

Upcoming catalysts and stock setup

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Anpanman guesses BlueBird 7 (Block 2) will launch around March 6-8, 2026, noting that a delay to NASA's Artemis mission has freed up a launch slot for Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 rocket that could benefit AST's timeline.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:33

    AST is scheduled to give a fourth-quarter (2025) update on March 2, 2026, where Anpanman expects Scott Wisniewski to be able to explain that, absent the government-shutdown delay to the $30 million Halo Europa award, second-half 2025 revenue would have come in well above the guided range.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:33

    Some in the Space Mob community are bullish about an upcoming multi-BlueBird satellite batch delivery/shipment that they expect soon; a U.S. market application is pending with the FCC and could be granted any day; and the Golden Dome Noble award has no definitive timeline but could be announced at any time, with Anpanman noting the Trump administration wants Golden Dome operational before the end of his term, implying pressure to move quickly.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:33

    Short interest in ASTS has risen to about 47.8 million shares, up from a recent low of about 39 million shares as of January 30, even as the stock price has declined — a pattern Anpanman says suggests more investors are shorting outright rather than convertible-note arbitrage funds reducing hedges (which would normally imply less shorting as price falls).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:53

    Anpanman closes by saying he believes the stock has been artificially suppressed by negative macro sentiment, and expects a strong reaction once a firm launch date is set and quarterly results/updates are delivered.

Watch Items5

  • BlueBird 7 (Block 2) satellite launch on Blue Origin New Glenn

    Anpanman's guess: around March 6-8, 2026, potentially aided by a launch-slot opening from an Artemis mission delay Anpanman 00:00:33
  • AST SpaceMobile Q4 2025 earnings/business update

    March 2, 2026 Anpanman 00:00:33
  • FCC U.S. market license application decision

    Pending, could be granted any day Anpanman 00:00:33
  • Potential 'Golden Dome Noble' award (space-based sensors / non-kinetic and electronic warfare)

    No definitive timeline; could be awarded at any time, with pressure to move given the administration's goal of Golden Dome being operational before the end of the president's term Anpanman 00:00:33
  • Potential multi-BlueBird satellite batch shipment/delivery

    Expected soon, per Space Mob community sentiment Anpanman 00:00:33

Open Questions3

  • Would AST SpaceMobile's second-half 2025 revenue have come in above its $50-75 million guided range if the $30 million SDA Halo Europa award had not been delayed by the government shutdown? Anpanman says he intends to ask management this directly.

    Anpanman 00:00:33
  • When will the SDA/DoD announce the potential 'Golden Dome Noble' award addressing space-based sensors and electronic warfare, given no definitive timeline has been set?

    Anpanman 00:00:33
  • How much of the newly allocated ~$9.2 billion in space-based sensor/target-indicator budget will AST SpaceMobile actually be able to capture, versus other providers like Starlink and Iridium in a multi-vendor, redundant architecture?

    Anpanman 00:00:33
2026-02-23 39:18

Kook's Weekly - February 22 - Inventing the Market: The SpaceMobile Category Creator

Kook

In this solo Kook's Weekly episode (Feb 22), Kook uses Abel Avellan's line "We did not follow a market, we invented one" as the organizing thesis for why AST SpaceMobile's category-creator status justifies his outsized personal position.

He walks through Deutsche Bank's new estimates (356 satellites by 2030, $12B revenue) and Scott Wisniewski's pushback that this undersells the opportunity, then covers technical/competitive differentiation versus SpaceX and the 1990s LEO failures.

He closes with launch-status updates on BlueBird 7 (FM2)/New Glenn 3, a reminder of the March 2 earnings date, and a case for why Golden Dome defense work is an underappreciated, diversifying value driver.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook (of the Kook Report) frames Abel Avellan's tweet "We did not follow a market, we invented one" as the core reason he holds an unusually large, concentrated AST SpaceMobile position, arguing that category creators durably capture market share, better margins, and better access to capital versus companies that end up a distant #2 or #3 in an existing market.
  • Deutsche Bank has raised its model to 356 satellites in orbit by 2030 (versus AST's current 243-satellite FCC authorization), which Kook interprets as the bank now assuming an additional satellite 'shell,' consistent with prior company commentary from Scott Wisniewski about pursuing more TAM beyond 243 satellites, including dedicated government shells.
  • Deutsche Bank estimates roughly $12 billion in AST SpaceMobile revenue by 2030; Kook says Scott Wisniewski has called that estimate 'weak sauce' and believes the real number could be in the tens of billions.
  • Kook rebuts bear comparisons (citing analysts 'Tim' and Bill Martin) that liken AST SpaceMobile to failed 1990s satellite-phone ventures like Iridium, arguing those were proprietary, closed, high-friction, expensive terminal-based systems, whereas AST's standards-based, low-friction system works on unmodified existing phones and should have near-infinite demand at low cost.
  • Kook explains AST's key technical differentiator versus SpaceX Direct to Cell: AST's base stations (E-node B) sit on the ground, with the satellite acting only as a 'remote radio head,' mirroring how terrestrial MNOs already scale cell towers — versus SpaceX's proprietary, space-based architecture — which Kook says is why AST's larger satellite arrays let it match or beat SpaceX's service with far fewer satellites.
  • AST SpaceMobile obtained its ITU network code, a step Kook says allows a normal phone to connect to AST's satellites as if roaming onto another carrier, validating the network at the international regulatory level.
  • BlueBird 7 (FM2) is encapsulated in the New Glenn 3 fairing awaiting a static fire and range clearance; Kook says NASA's Artemis mission appears unable to launch in March, which would clear the range for New Glenn 3 to launch possibly as soon as March 6, 2026.
  • AST SpaceMobile's next earnings report is scheduled for Monday, March 2, and Kook expects elevated options volatility heading into it.
  • Kook highlights Golden Dome-related government/defense work — including a recent contract award, an interview with 'Roy' confirming AST's solution will be part of Golden Dome, and rapid hiring tied to a new military production facility — as a diversifying, non-commercial path to value creation that puts AST in the same conversation as defense-tech names like Palantir and Anduril.
  • Kook says his personal investing 'edge' is patience and low trading frequency rather than having unique information, describing his approach as staying still and sticking with a long-term conviction position through volatility rather than overtrading.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Category creation thesis and position sizing

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook says Abel Avellan's tweet "We did not follow a market, we invented one" reflects the first-principle thesis that guided both his investment decision and, separately, his position sizing in AST SpaceMobile; he distinguishes stock selection (being an analyst finding a big bet) from portfolio management (sizing), noting he is not naturally a portfolio manager.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook states he has an 'imprudently large' personal position in ASTS, describing it as too big for one person to reasonably hold, and says he had moments where he felt he might lose the investment and had a 'mental breakdown' during the process before it started to look like a bet that will work.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook explains that when his firm identifies a true category creator (versus a company chasing a mediocre market and destined to be a distant #3 player), he goes into 'risk-on' mode, because being a distant #2 or #3 leaves a company exposed ('toast, roadkill') in a downturn, whereas a category-creating #1 tends to build durable market share, better economics, better margins, and better capital access that compound into defensible moats. He cites his experience with Carvana versus also-ran online car sellers like Shift as an example of the distant-#2/#3 risk.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says he considers himself a 'one-hit wonder' investor rather than someone with consistently great pitch recognition (comparing himself to the band Spacehog and its one hit 'In the Meantime'), and says if this AST SpaceMobile bet works out, he doesn't plan to ever need to make another investment.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook describes his investing 'edge' as having no informational edge at all — just patience, the willingness to sit on a nonlinear potential outcome, and the discipline not to overtrade or get 'sideswiped by volatility' in a market full of high-frequency traders and AI trading; he says he doesn't consider himself a contrarian since many people already believe in the AST SpaceMobile thesis, he just has to 'believe longer.'

BlueBird 7 (FM2) / New Glenn 3 launch status

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook confirms BlueBird 7 (FM2) is encapsulated in the New Glenn 3 fairing, calling it 'really neat' to see it sealed up, and describes ongoing personal launch superstitions (ordering custom model rockets after successful launches on new rocket types), noting he has not yet ordered a New Glenn 3 model because that launch hasn't succeeded yet.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says the launch still requires a static fire of New Glenn 3 and range clearance; he notes NASA's Artemis mission appears unable to launch in March 2026, which would clear the launch range for New Glenn 3 to fly, possibly as soon as March 6 — describing this as something the community is closely monitoring rather than a confirmed date.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook contrasts Artemis (which he characterizes as an 'ungodly expensive' public program with chronic delays and political ('pork') dynamics) with commercial launch programs like New Glenn, framing the range-clearing dynamic as an example of public versus private space initiative tradeoffs.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook references a photo of Abel Avellan personally inspecting the FM2 satellite from a lift/cherry-picker, framing Avellan as a hands-on, owner-operator founder in the mold of Zuckerberg, Musk, or early Bezos, rather than a CEO primarily doing analyst roadshows.

Deutsche Bank estimates and revenue outlook

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook cites a new Deutsche Bank estimate of 356 satellites in orbit by 2030, more than AST's current 243-satellite authorization, which he interprets as the bank now modeling an additional satellite 'shell' — possibly informed by company conversations indicating AST is 'not done at 243' and sees more addressable market, consistent with prior comments from Scott Wisniewski about additional shells, including dedicated government shells.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:25

    Kook cites Deutsche Bank's estimate of approximately $12 billion in AST SpaceMobile revenue by 2030, and says Scott Wisniewski has characterized that figure as 'weak sauce,' believing the company is setting up for tens of billions of dollars in revenue instead.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook argues that even at $10 billion in revenue with strong growth continuing from there, the stock should command a 'really great multiple,' and frames AST SpaceMobile as belonging in a 'next-generation cable asset' valuation category (alongside how he views SpaceX versus Charter) rather than the traditional satellite sector, which he calls comparatively weak (citing Iridium and Globalstar as poor comparables).

Rebutting the 1990s-satellite bear case

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:25

    Kook pushes back on bear arguments — attributed to an analyst he calls 'Tim' and to 'Bill Martin,' who compared AST SpaceMobile to Iridium as an 'easy short' — arguing these comparisons rely on a false analogy to failed 1990s/2000s LEO satellite-phone companies, which were proprietary, closed, narrowband systems requiring expensive dedicated terminals (high friction), unlike AST's standards-based, low-friction system that works on existing unmodified phones.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says a frictionless, low-cost consumer experience should generate near-infinite demand versus Iridium-style high-friction, high-cost service, and argues that experienced hedge fund analysts covering many names sometimes default to superficial historical pattern-matching ('we've seen this movie before') rather than distinguishing true analogs from false ones.

Technical architecture and competitive differentiation vs. SpaceX

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook explains that AST SpaceMobile's base stations (E-node B) are located on the ground while the satellite functions only as a 'remote radio head' beaming signal to phones — mirroring how terrestrial MNOs scale their existing networks — whereas SpaceX's Direct to Cell architecture puts the base station functionality in space; he credits the account 'Interalia51' for clarifying this distinction, which he says is why AST's model can scale to meet demand the way terrestrial MNOs do.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook argues satellite array size, not satellite count, is what matters competitively, saying AST's larger phased arrays let it match or exceed SpaceX's service quality with far fewer satellites than SpaceX's roughly 5,000-satellite Starlink/Direct to Cell constellation — illustrating this with an analogy comparing 5,000 small rafts to a single US Navy aircraft carrier.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Kook highlights a recent AT&T tweet ('one step closer to the bet... the waffles pack a bigger array, which means we can achieve the same or better service with fewer satellites than competitors') as AT&T publicly drawing a contrast with SpaceX's approach.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook notes AST's satellites carry optical inter-satellite links, and cites analysis from 'Katzi' suggesting FM1 is waiting for FM2 to reach orbit so the two can test operating in tandem via these inter-satellite links — capabilities Kook says will be useful for military applications and for interoperability between AST's LEO layer and MEO satellite layers (drawing an analogy to a highway/freeway system), referencing recent Amazon/Terawave commentary on similar MEO-LEO concepts.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook references an interview that Anpanman posted (titled 'Hear About It from the Team') and highlights one point from it: that mobile network operators blocked SpaceX's satellite testing due to interference caused by SpaceX's wide side lobes and high adjacent-channel leakage ratio (described as spectrum 'spam,' per analysis from 'Katzi'), whereas those same MNOs are instead working with AST SpaceMobile.

Spectrum strategy and hiring

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook frames spectrum as the scarce upstream resource in the business (analogous to oil), with AST SpaceMobile increasingly acting as a spectrum aggregator rather than purely a 'downstream' operationalizing company, and notes AST continues to meet with the FCC about 2 GHz spectrum access, which he expects will expand over time across multiple countries and fuel monetization beyond earlier expectations.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook points to a tweet (from 'Justin') showing a large volume of new AST SpaceMobile job postings as evidence the company is hiring aggressively to deliver on a large opportunity.

ITU network code and monetization outlook

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook notes AST SpaceMobile obtained its ITU network code, which 'Interalia51' flagged as a key step toward letting a normal phone connect to AST satellites as if roaming onto another carrier — an international regulatory validation of the network that enables the seamless, invisible-to-the-user experience the company is targeting.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook muses that because AST's service is designed to be seamless and invisible to the user (unlike an app-based competitor experience), there's a risk consumers won't consciously value it until it's taken away — comparing it to oxygen, where demand only becomes apparent once the service is missing.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:25

    Kook cites Vodafone's IoT CEO stating that 2026 will be the year of satellite IoT, and argues IoT/B2B use cases will likely monetize fastest since they tolerate intermittent connectivity better than consumer voice/data, which he expects would be annoying with limited service windows.

Blue Origin launch cadence

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook notes Blue Origin is ramping its launch schedule, citing new STAs (Special Temporary Authorizations) appearing for New Glenn 5 and 6, and predicts Blue Origin's cadence could start rivaling SpaceX's within the next year, with AST SpaceMobile as Blue Origin's 'marquee client' — adding that this ramp should help drive down AST's launch cost curve.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says AST SpaceMobile has booked a substantial number of SpaceX launches as a fallback option but believes the company has deliberately not disclosed the exact launch allocation across vendors in order to preserve negotiating leverage.

Earnings date and trading volatility

1
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook reminds listeners AST SpaceMobile's next earnings report is scheduled for Monday, March 2, and cautions options traders about elevated implied volatility heading into the print, advising against being short volatility ('selling vol') in the days before.

Golden Dome and defense positioning

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook recalls Scott Wisniewski's earlier tweet effectively confirming AST's involvement with Golden Dome (tied to a contract announcement that didn't explicitly say 'Golden Dome' but was widely understood as such), noting that news drove a stock rally that was subsequently given back as the broader market sold off, though he says AST held up relatively well given the macro backdrop.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook cites recent 'telltale' signals pointing to AST's involvement in space-based radar, and notes that in an interview with 'Roy,' it was stated specifically that AST SpaceMobile's solution will also be part of the Golden Dome concept.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says rapid hiring and new real estate suggest AST is ramping up a dedicated military production facility, which he says positions the company alongside defense-tech names like Palantir and Anduril, while noting AST is not solely reliant on government revenue the way pure defense contractors are — creating an additional, diversifying path to rapid value creation.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook references ongoing geopolitical instability (events in Mexico, unrest in Cuba, tensions involving Iran) as background context for rising demand for next-generation military/defense equipment, suggesting the market has not fully appreciated how important AST SpaceMobile could become as part of that next generation of defense contractors.

Watch Items5

  • AST SpaceMobile Q4/FY earnings report

    Monday, March 2 Kook 00:00:25
  • New Glenn 3 launch of BlueBird 7 (FM2), pending static fire and range clearance after Artemis's expected March delay

    Possibly as soon as March 6 (Kook's estimate, not confirmed) Kook 00:00:25
  • Further Golden Dome-related contract or program news ('the next card')

    Unspecified / any given day, per Kook Kook 00:00:25
  • Blue Origin New Glenn 5 and 6 STAs / launch cadence ramp

    Over the next year (Kook's expectation) Kook 00:00:25
  • Rolling commercial monetization, starting with satellite IoT per Vodafone's IoT CEO

    2026 Kook 00:00:25

Open Questions4

  • If AST SpaceMobile's service is seamless and invisible to users (working like normal cell service with no app or user awareness), will consumers actually perceive its value enough to keep paying for it, or only realize its worth once it's taken away (Kook's 'oxygen' analogy)?

    Kook 00:00:25
  • How many satellite shells and how much additional TAM will AST SpaceMobile ultimately pursue beyond the current 243-satellite authorization, and how much of Deutsche Bank's 356-satellite estimate reflects real company guidance versus analyst modeling assumptions?

    Kook 00:00:25
  • Whether AST SpaceMobile's actual 2030 revenue will land closer to Deutsche Bank's ~$12 billion estimate or the 'tens of billions' figure Kook attributes to Scott Wisniewski's internal view.

    Kook 00:00:25
  • When the next material Golden Dome-related announcement or contract will come, given Kook says he has 'lost track a little bit of the timing of these things.'

    Kook 00:00:25
2026-02-20 30:20

Anpanman - The Inevitability of SpaceMobile: Bluebirds, Bond Math, and Blue Origin

Anpanman

Anpanman delivers a solo strategic update on AST SpaceMobile, walking through the mechanics of the company's recent convertible bond offering and hedge-fund delta hedging.

He also covers the encapsulation of Bluebird 7 into Blue Origin's New Glenn fairing and the likely launch window, AST's push for global 2 GHz spectrum, and a preview of the March 2 Q4 earnings call.

His headline conclusion is that despite a roughly 40% drawdown from the stock's $130 peak to around $81, the setup over the next 2-3 weeks (launch date announcement, launch itself, and earnings) is bullish.

He also concludes that any residual selling pressure from the convert offering has likely already played out.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman (solo host) argues that hedge-fund short-selling pressure tied to AST SpaceMobile's most recent convertible bond offering has likely already run its course, based on his estimate that only about 1.8 million shares needed to be shorted to hedge the deal.
  • Bluebird 7 was encapsulated into Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket fairing (announced the day before this episode), and Anpanman expects a launch date announcement within about 4 days, pointing to a launch window as early as February 28 through early-to-mid March 2026, potentially close to NASA's Artemis II target launch date of March 6.
  • AST SpaceMobile's Q4 2025 earnings call is scheduled for Monday, March 2, 2026, after market close; financial results should hold no surprises since the company already pre-announced revenue of $63-71 million.
  • Anpanman expects only 2-3 (maybe 3-4) satellite launches to be completed before Q1 close rather than the 4 some investors hoped for, with the remainder spilling into Q2, though he still expects the constellation to reach somewhere near 45 (not the more aggressive 60) satellites by year-end.
  • AST has filed with the FCC pursuing global 2 GHz spectrum (roughly 1980-2025 MHz uplink and 2160-2200 MHz downlink per Anpanman's description), positioning itself against incumbents EchoStar and Viasat/Inmarsat, with an EU 2 GHz spectrum allocation decision targeted for May 2027 via the Vodafone joint venture.
  • AT&T has publicly indicated beta testing of the satellite service is expected to start soon, which Anpanman believes may begin before the constellation reaches 25 satellites.
  • The stock previously rallied about 69% after AST set a launch date (December 19, 2025) for Bluebird 6's eventual December 23 launch, which Anpanman cites as precedent for how the market could react once a Bluebird 7 launch date is confirmed.
  • A weekend snowstorm tragedy in Northern California, in which 6 of 15 stranded skiers were rescued after using Globalstar satellite SOS messaging (9 others perished), is cited by Anpanman as a reminder of the life-or-death value of satellite connectivity that AST SpaceMobile aims to provide.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Macro Backdrop

3
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Small-cap stocks have pulled back amid interest-rate uncertainty; PCE inflation data came in 'a little hot' that day, raising doubts about whether the Fed has room to cut rates.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Citing real-time inflation data provider Truflation (which surveys many more price points than the government's BLS data, which he says is stale by 2-3 months), Anpanman says the trend shows inflation continuing to crater, and that Truflation has historically led official BLS data by 2-3 months, so he expects rate cuts to continue despite some Fed governors talking about pausing or even raising rates.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He flags the potential for a US conflict with Iran as a source of market uncertainty that could overwhelm company-specific catalysts, hoping for a negotiated peace but noting the outcome is unknown.

Convertible Bond Analysis and Hedge Fund Dynamics

3
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Using AI to analyze historical bondholder composition (sourced from Bloomberg) across AST's convertible note issuances, he says the January 2025 $460 million convert had about 55% hedge fund ownership, the July 2025 $575 million convert had about 66% hedge fund ownership, and the October 2025 $1.15 billion 2% 10-year convert (unusually long-dated versus the typical 5-7 year term) had only 23% hedge fund and 77% long-only ownership.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He explains that convertible-bond hedge funds act as arbitrageurs: they buy the bond and short the underlying stock (delta hedging) to monetize volatility, trading around deltas as the stock moves, largely indifferent to fundamentals, whereas long-only holders buy for the credit and coupon (e.g. the 2.25% coupon on the most recent issue) plus the upside conversion option.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    For the most recent convertible issue (~$1.15 billion including the overallotment option, conversion price of $116.30, a 20% premium to the ~$96 stock price at pricing), he calculates roughly 9.9 million shares underlie the bond ($1.15B / $116.30). Assuming (his own estimate) 30% of the deal went to arbitrageurs and they hedge at roughly 60% delta, he estimates only about 1.8 million shares needed to be shorted to hedge the deal - a level of selling he believes was likely absorbed within the first day, meaning residual hedging-related pressure on the stock is probably already gone.

Bluebird 7 Launch Timeline and Blue Origin New Glenn

7
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    AST SpaceMobile disclosed the day before this episode (i.e., around Feb 19, 2026) that Bluebird 7 had been encapsulated into Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket fairing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Based on the precedent from Bluebird 6's launch with ISRO (where a launch date was set roughly 4-5 days after encapsulation into the LVM3 fairing), he estimates a Bluebird 7 launch date will likely be announced about 4 days from February 24, 2026, implying a possible launch window as early as February 28 through early March, while cautioning that Blue Origin's process may differ from ISRO's.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    NASA's Artemis II mission has a target launch date of March 6 from Cape Canaveral; Anpanman expects Bluebird 7/New Glenn to launch either shortly before or after that date, floating March 7th, 8th, 9th, or 11th as alternative windows if Artemis II slips due to weather or other issues.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He raises the possibility of a historic 'dual launch window' at Cape Canaveral where investors could potentially watch both the Artemis II and New Glenn/Bluebird 7 launches; he expects the company to run some kind of lottery system for shareholder launch invites (not tied to number of shares owned), with limited slots since Blue Origin will also be hosting its own guests.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    As precedent for stock reaction, he notes that when AST set Bluebird 6's launch date on December 19, 2025 (for a December 23 launch), the stock rallied about 69%, and he expects a similar pop in anticipation once a Bluebird 7 launch date is set.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He frames the next 2-3 weeks (launch date setting, the Q4 earnings update, and the launch itself) as setting up 'very bullishly,' though he cautions a US strike on Iran this weekend or soon after could override company-specific catalysts; he says he has personally taken on some upside risk to position for this.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He says seeing the fairing photos with AST SpaceMobile branding was exciting, and frames the joint New Glenn/Bluebird 7 launch (which will also prove Blue Origin can refurbish and re-fly the New Glenn Booster 2) as a potential 'huge coming out moment' for AST SpaceMobile due to the publicity both companies will receive.

AT&T Beta Testing

1
  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    AT&T disclosed via tweet that it expects beta testing of the satellite service to start soon; Anpanman believes beta testing could already be underway or start sooner than some investors expect, and is not necessarily predicated on having 25 satellites in orbit first - he expects it to begin with the current five Block 1 satellites and expand in scope as more satellites are added.

2 GHz Global Spectrum Strategy

3
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    AST filed with the FCC (in the prior week) pursuing 2 GHz spectrum globally, specifically 1980-2025 MHz for uplink and 2160-2200 MHz for downlink, as he described it; internationally, the two primary holders of that spectrum are EchoStar and Viasat (which acquired Inmarsat's allocations).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He says AST 'perfected their spectrum rights' via an acquisition (he could not recall the acquired company's name) giving them priority rights to 2 GHz spectrum globally, and that AST appears well positioned to receive a 2 GHz spectrum allocation from the EU, expected in May 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Via the Vodafone joint venture, he believes AST is likely to secure some allocation (whether 10x10 or 15x15 MHz remains to be seen), and views the active FCC push as a signal that AST believes EchoStar and Viasat are likely to get 'pared back.'

Roy Sofer Interview (Israeli Engineering Office)

1
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Anpanman shared a translated Israeli podcast interview with Roy Sofer, described as Senior Vice President of Engineering heading AST's Israeli office (focused on RF and chip development), who joined the company around November 2021; he recommends reading it for technical and competitive insight and may do a dedicated episode covering it.

Northern California Snowstorm and Globalstar Rescue

1
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    A weekend snowstorm in Northern California left a group of skiers stranded; 6 of 15 skiers were rescued using Globalstar satellite SOS messaging to help locate them, while 9 others perished. Anpanman cites this as underscoring the life-or-death value of satellite connectivity, saying he plans to get the service for his entire family once it rolls out.

Q4 2025 Earnings Call Preview (March 2, 2026)

5
  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    The company has set its Q4 earnings date for Monday, March 2, reporting after market close; he expects no financial surprises since the company already pre-announced revenue of $63-71 million and a range for operating expenses.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He expects updates on composite satellite production cadence, including timing for sending the first two batches of three satellites to Cape Canaveral for Falcon 9 launches, plus color on Golden Dome, possible new or updated MNO agreements, non-dilutive funding, and details on the FirstNet/AT&T contract.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He believes the company's FCC application for US market access could get approved 'imminently at any point now.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He encourages retail investors to submit questions (since the company takes retail questions first before sell-side analysts), specifically suggesting questions on the space-based AI/data-center monetization opportunity - which he says the company hinted at in its last convertible bond issuance - as well as Golden Dome and production cadence.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He notes it will be telling if Morgan Stanley's space-sector analyst (possibly Adam Jonas) asks a question on the call, and says if a JPMorgan analyst also joins, that would signal they're working on initiating research coverage.

Launch Cadence and Constellation Size Guidance

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Responding to a listener question about achieving 4 launches before Q1 close, Anpanman says that will not happen; he guesses 2 more launches before Q1 close, maybe 3 if lucky - so 3-4 total completed rather than 5, with the rest spilling into Q2 - attributing the pace to the company being deliberate and methodical since each satellite generation launch is a first-time effort.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He reiterates his view that the constellation will reach somewhere near 45 (rather than the more aggressive 60) satellites by year-end, framing the exact timing as less important than the eventual 'inevitability' of the buildout given the service's advantage over Starlink and other competitors.

Stock Price and Market Sentiment

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He notes the stock is down about 40% from its peak of $130 to around $81, despite the company having raised $1.15 billion and having multiple catalysts ahead, and says he expects the stock to return to the $130 level 'pretty soon.'

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He credits Kook with correctly predicting that February would be a rough month for the stock, and frames volatility as beneficial for patient, non-margined investors who can use pullbacks as entry points.

Watch Items6

  • Bluebird 7 launch date announcement

    Anpanman estimates roughly 4 days from February 24, 2026 (based on Bluebird 6/ISRO precedent) Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Bluebird 7 launch aboard Blue Origin New Glenn

    Possibly as early as February 28, 2026 through early-to-mid March; likely near NASA's Artemis II target date of March 6 (alternates cited: March 7, 8, 9, or 11) Anpanman 00:00:28
  • AST SpaceMobile Q4 2025 earnings call

    Monday, March 2, 2026, after market close Anpanman 00:00:28
  • FCC approval of AST's US market access application

    Anpanman believes it could come 'imminently at any point now' Anpanman 00:00:28
  • EU 2 GHz spectrum allocation decision (via Vodafone JV / SatCo)

    Targeted for May 2027 Anpanman 00:00:28
  • AT&T beta testing launch

    'Soon,' per AT&T's tweet; Anpanman thinks it may start before 25 satellites are in orbit Anpanman 00:00:28

Open Questions6

  • Will beta testing actually begin before the constellation reaches 25 satellites, as Anpanman speculates, or will AT&T wait until then?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • How many satellite launches will actually be completed before Q1 close - 2, 3, or 4 - given the company is behind the pace some investors expected?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Will the constellation reach closer to 45 or the more aggressive 60 satellites by year-end?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Will Morgan Stanley's and/or JPMorgan's analysts ask questions on the Q4 call, signaling new or upcoming research coverage?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Whether AST will secure a 10x10 or 15x15 MHz allocation (or something else) in the EU's 2 GHz spectrum decision via the Vodafone joint venture.

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Whether escalation of the US-Iran conflict will overwhelm AST-specific catalysts in the near term.

    Anpanman 00:00:28
2026-02-16 42:10

Kook Weekly - February 15 - The $4 Billion War Chest: SpaceMobile’s Path to Global Dominance

Kook

In this solo 'Kook Weekly' episode (published Feb 16, 2026), Kook runs through a busy week for AST SpaceMobile.

Highlights include the milestone unfurling of FM1 (the first Block 2 BlueBird satellite), FY2025 revenue of roughly $63-71 million, and a fresh ~$4 billion cash position built from a new convertible bond and ATM equity sales.

He frames the recent stock drop from about $130 to about $80 as healthy supply absorption rather than a fundamental problem. He also spends significant time on speculative topics: a possible Iridium acquisition, new 'AI'-related language in AST's financing filings hinting at space AI data centers or an expanded Blue Origin partnership, and an expanding defense/radar TAM signaled by a senior FPGA engineer job posting.

His headline conclusion is that AST is now funding to 'capture upside opportunities' rather than to de-risk, and that the current dilution is a short-term 'pit stop' on a still-intact 2026 commercial story.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook, one of the two recurring AST SpaceMobile Podcast hosts, delivered his solo weekly recap on Feb 15, 2026 (published Feb 16), with $ASTS stock having fallen from roughly $130 to roughly $80 in recent weeks.
  • FM1, the first Block 2 BlueBird satellite, completed unfurling its next-generation antenna array; Kook called this a major technical de-risking event and noted AST's satellite deployments are now '7 for 7' with no failures.
  • AST SpaceMobile's FY2025 revenue came in at approximately $63 million to $71 million, above the $50 million low end of its guided range but below the high end; President Scott Wisniewski has said the company sees 'a good runway to tens of billions of dollars' in long-term end-state revenue.
  • AST built roughly a $4 billion cash position through a new convertible bond offering and continued ATM equity sales, which Kook frames as a 'war chest' for opportunistic growth rather than a sign of financial distress.
  • Scotiabank was removed from the underwriting syndicate on AST's bond deals while JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley were added, which Kook reads as a sign of broadening institutional/Wall Street interest in the stock.
  • Kook speculated (with no confirmed deal and no personal position in Iridium) that AST SpaceMobile could acquire Iridium to capture its book of business, global spectrum, and infrastructure, potentially adding an estimated ~$500 million/year of EBITDA and accelerating AST's path to profitability.
  • New language in AST's recent financing filings about 'monetizing the capabilities of our proprietary technology' related to artificial intelligence, and 'pursuing opportunistic investments,' led Kook to speculate about AI data centers in space and a possible expanded Blue Origin partnership; he says the exact nature of this is not yet clear.
  • A job posting for a senior FPGA engineer focused on radar systems 'for the warfighter' led Kook to argue that defense-related applications are becoming an ongoing business priority for AST rather than just a temporary bridge to its AST5000 ASIC chip.
  • Kook noted the U.S. Senate Commerce Committee approved a bill intended to speed up FCC approvals of new satellite launches, which he frames as a regulatory tailwind.
  • Kook explained that near-term stock volatility after a convertible bond issuance is driven by short sellers borrowing and selling shares as a hedge, and that historically the market has absorbed a new convert's issue price within about 5 to 10 trading days.
  • Kook says 2026 remains 'very much a 2026 story' for AST SpaceMobile commercially, with FM-2 (the second Block 2 BlueBird) launch and a further satellite batch shipment (expected around early March, per his own estimate) as near-term catalysts to watch.

Detailed Discussion14 topics

Framing the sell-off and the 'kook bottom'

4
  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook describes the stock as having gone from about $130 to about $80, jokingly renaming his 'kook bottom' framework after a bout of sciatica; he frames this week's price action as part of normal post-'January effect' cooling rather than a fundamental problem.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:25

    Kook says he had been worried about a February pullback and discussed it with Anpanman, who pushed back hard on that worry (he says Anpanman 'ripped him a new one'); Kook frames the ensuing sell-off as the expected post-January-effect cooling rather than a new problem.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook attributes part of the recent drop to Scott Wisniewski issuing another convertible bond, which he says broke the stock's prior '$100 floor.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook argues that downturns like this shift shares from weak/momentum-driven holders (who get stopped out) to what he calls the 'rightful,' long-term-focused owners of the stock.

FM1 (Block 2 BlueBird) unfurling milestone

4
  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook says FM1 was deployed this week and, based on his own tracking of orbital data, it's clear the satellite went through a final unfurling step (possibly a two-step process involving a bar configuration/payload module, though he says this can't be confirmed without company clarification).

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook calls the successful unfurling one of the 'seminal tech milestones' because it proves the larger, next-generation (Block 2) satellite architecture can deploy in orbit, and notes the company is now '7 for 7' on satellite deployments with no anomalies so far.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook argues the market had already priced in successful deployment (citing a roughly $40 billion market cap at the time), showing 'the market got it right' despite skeptics who doubted the technology would work.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook contrasts AST's cautious, step-by-step deployment approach (which he likens to Blue Origin's philosophy) with SpaceX's more failure-tolerant 'blow stuff up for data' approach, attributing AST's caution partly to more limited capitalization historically.

Satellite shipments and per-satellite cost

3
  • Kook Speculation 00:09:20

    Kook says early indications suggest the next satellite shipment/launch may carry 4 satellites on a Falcon rocket instead of the previously expected 3, which he speculates could reflect the satellites' weight having come down.

  • Kook Speculation 00:09:23

    Kook explains that since launch costs are largely fixed, fitting 4 satellites instead of 3 per launch helps move toward a long-term target cost of around $22 million per satellite, which he believes Wall Street will react well to.

  • Kook Speculation 00:09:23

    Kook expects costs to be higher up front and to 'average down' as launches scale, calling this a normal pattern for capital-intensive buildouts.

Partner and European commentary

2
  • Kook Company Guidance 00:09:23

    Kook notes continued public interviews from AT&T's CEO discussing the AT&T-AST SpaceMobile partnership as a sign of AST's importance to its carrier partners.

  • Kook Speculation 00:09:23

    Kook's 'European correspondent,' analyst Peter Lindmark, shared that the EU Council held a meeting addressing fragmentation across European markets and a push toward a single EU market; Kook argues this supports the logic for SatCo as a pan-European satellite platform rather than each country building its own infrastructure.

FY2025 revenue and long-term revenue guidance

4
  • Kook Confirmed 00:09:23

    Kook reports AST SpaceMobile's FY2025 revenue came in at approximately $63 million to $71 million, above the $50 million low end of the guided range, though below the high end of the target ('missed the high end of their target').

  • Kook Speculation 00:09:23

    Kook says a lot of the FY2025 revenue was gateway sales and similar items, framing this as an early step toward a much larger 'main event' still to come.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:09:23

    Kook cites a tweet from Scott Wisniewski stating the company sees 'a good runway to tens of billions of dollars' in end-state revenue, which Kook says he 'hangs his hat on.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:09:23

    Kook mentions Elon Musk publicly mocking Tim Ferriss for posting sell-side analyst estimates showing ASTS revenue reaching roughly $1 billion; Kook says he believes Musk will be proven wrong on this.

'Roblox for Telecom' platform vision

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:09:23

    Kook describes a vision of AST SpaceMobile as a connectivity platform ('Roblox for Telecom') where third-party developers could build applications (e.g., ocean buoys for tracking submarines, dolphins, or sharks) on top of AST's network via an eventual API, creating revenue opportunities not currently modeled by the company.

  • Kook Speculation 00:09:23

    Kook cites a tweet from 'Dr. Mike' describing AST's end state as a non-terrestrial network mirroring MNOs' terrestrial networks, dynamically toggled on/off by AI at the base station as a secondary/redundant network — similar to how a power grid dispatches between different generation sources — which Kook says is consistent with AT&T's public comments about utilizing guard-band spectrum.

Defense/TAM expansion

2
  • Kook Confirmed 00:19:16

    Kook highlights a job posting found by 'ASTS Investors' for a senior FPGA engineer explicitly tied to radar and communications systems 'supporting the warfighter,' arguing this suggests FPGA-based hardware is an ongoing parallel business line for military/adaptive use cases rather than just a bridge to the AST5000 ASIC.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook interprets the FPGA job posting as evidence that AST's addressable market (TAM) in defense is larger than previously appreciated.

Financing: $4 billion cash position and underwriter changes

4
  • Kook Confirmed 00:19:16

    Kook says AST SpaceMobile has raised additional capital via a new convertible bond ('another drive-by' convert) plus continued ATM equity sales, building the company's cash position to roughly $4 billion, up from a prior $2.7 billion level and from having 'almost no cash' about two years earlier; he speculates AST may now have more cash than SpaceX.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook describes the dilution from the recent raises as minor ('teeny dilution'), estimating shareholders retain roughly 90% of their prior economic interest after the recent dilution events (his own rough estimate, not exact math).

  • Kook Confirmed 00:19:16

    Kook notes Scotiabank was removed from the underwriting syndicate on AST's bond/equity deals (he frames this as a consequence of Scotiabank repeatedly downgrading the stock), while JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley were added as underwriters, calling this a sign of growing institutional interest and expecting eventual research coverage from these banks, particularly hoping Morgan Stanley's Adam Jonas covers the name.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook frames Scott Wisniewski and Abel Avellan as highly rational actors whose economic interests are almost entirely in AST stock, arguing this means any capital raise they pursue reflects an NPV-positive growth opportunity rather than a defensive move.

Capital raise history and valuation framework

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:19:16

    Kook recaps prior capital raise prices cited by 'Stoic Capital': $3.10, $4.75, $5.50, $5.75, and most recently $72.07, noting he believes one raise (possibly around $60, potentially reflecting capped-call math) may have been omitted from that recap; he observes the market has kept re-rating the stock higher after each raise.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook argues AST should ultimately be valued on a price-to-book basis given its IP and defensible moats, suggesting a high multiple (e.g., 30-to-1) is plausible for capital that reinforces competitive moats and scale, unlike a bank trading near 1x book.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook uses an Indy 500 pit-stop analogy for capital raises: temporary dilution/slowdowns ('pit stops') that provide the fuel needed to keep growing, arguing AST is now 'funding to capture upside opportunities' rather than funding to mitigate downside risk.

M&A speculation: potential Iridium acquisition

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook speculates that AST SpaceMobile could acquire Iridium, explicitly noting he has no position in Iridium and does not know if a deal will happen; he views Iridium's current satellite constellation as having little long-term value but sees potential value in its existing book of business, global spectrum, and ground infrastructure (satellite operational control centers, ground stations).

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook's thesis is that AST could acquire Iridium's book of business, run off Iridium's narrowband service on its existing constellation until AST's own network scales, then upsell those customers to full broadband service — in the meantime capturing what he estimates (as a guess) as roughly $500 million a year of EBITDA plus global L-band/S-band spectrum access.

New filing language: AI and 'opportunistic investments'

2
  • Kook Confirmed 00:19:16

    Kook highlights new language in AST's financing-use-of-proceeds disclosure stating the company intends to use proceeds to include 'monetizing the capabilities of our proprietary technology to capture evolving commercial opportunities related to artificial intelligence' and 'pursuing opportunistic investments to accelerate SpaceMobile servicing capabilities.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook speculates this AI-related language could point toward a spectrum-lease-style deal (potentially related to Iridium) or toward AI data centers in space, and separately speculates it could reflect a partnership with Blue Origin — either building satellites for Blue Origin or licensing AST's large on-orbit solar power mechanism — but says the exact nature and timing are unclear.

Regulatory tailwinds and index inclusion

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:19:16

    Kook cites a Bloomberg tweet reporting that the Senate Commerce Committee approved a bill intended to speed up FCC approval of new satellite launches.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook says he expects AST's full SCS (Supplemental Coverage from Space) commercial approval to be forthcoming 'within a month or two,' pointing listeners to FCC filings tracker Justin (@JustBar) for updates.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook notes growing inclusion of ASTS in stock indices, which he says functions similarly to new research coverage by reducing the effective public float as passive index funds buy and hold shares.

Competitor commentary: SpaceX/Starlink

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook notes SpaceX appears to be narrowing its public narrative toward the Moon and Starlink rather than Mars, ahead of an eventual SpaceX IPO/prospectus, and observes (citing Tim Ferriss) that Starlink's growth curve has gone from convex to slightly concave over the past three months, though he isn't ready to write off Starlink.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook says SpaceX appears to be de-emphasizing its direct-to-cell (D2C) narrative and instead leaning into a broader AI/mega-TAM story via its xAI deal, which he expects will raise general investor awareness of the space sector and ultimately benefit ASTS.

Stock mechanics and near-term outlook

4
  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook explains that issuing a new convertible bond allows short sellers to borrow and sell shares as a hedge, temporarily increasing supply in the market until those shares find 'natural' long-term holders, which he says typically takes 5 to 10 trading days based on historical patterns around the (roughly $96) issue reference price.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook personally added to his position on Friday, expecting continued choppiness this week as new convert-related share supply is absorbed, though he cautions he is 'not a good trader' and this isn't a recommendation.

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook says he is closely tracking the FM-2 satellite launch and expects it to occur around the time the recent convert's share supply gets absorbed (roughly the following week), and separately expects the next satellite batch to ship 'sometime in early March' (his own estimate).

  • Kook Speculation 00:19:16

    Kook emphasizes that AST SpaceMobile remains 'very much a 2026 story' for commercial execution, meaning investors should expect to 'get paid on the stock this year' rather than the relevant catalysts being pushed to 2027.

Watch Items5

  • FM-2 (second Block 2 BlueBird) satellite launch

    Tracked closely by Kook; expected roughly around the time convert-related share supply gets absorbed (about a week to two weeks after the recent convert) Kook 00:19:16
  • Next satellite batch shipment

    Kook's own estimate: 'sometime in early March' Kook 00:19:16
  • Absorption of new convertible-bond share supply / return to upward price trend

    Historically 5-10 trading days from the issue reference price (~$96); Kook estimates 'week after next' Kook 00:19:16
  • Full FCC SCS (Supplemental Coverage from Space) commercial-service approval

    Kook expects it 'forthcoming within a month or two' Kook 00:19:16
  • Potential Morgan Stanley (Adam Jonas) or JPMorgan research coverage initiation on ASTS

    Not dated; expected following their addition to the underwriting syndicate Kook 00:19:16

Open Questions4

  • Whether AST SpaceMobile will actually pursue an acquisition of Iridium, and which of Iridium's assets (ground stations, satellite operational control centers, spectrum, book of business) would prove valuable in such a deal.

    Kook 00:19:16
  • What AST's new filing language about 'monetizing the capabilities of our proprietary technology' related to artificial intelligence actually refers to — a spectrum-lease deal, AI data centers in space, an expanded Blue Origin partnership, or something else — and why the company needs additional capital for it.

    Kook 00:19:16
  • Whether the apparent shift to 4 satellites per Falcon launch (from 3) reflects a real reduction in satellite weight, and how much this ultimately lowers the per-satellite cost toward the ~$22 million target.

    Kook 00:09:20
  • Whether AST's FPGA-based hardware line for defense/radar use cases will remain a permanent parallel product line alongside the AST5000 ASIC, rather than a temporary bridge technology.

    Kook 00:19:16
2026-02-12 1:12:28

Anpanman - AST SpaceMobile's $4 Billion War Chest: AI, Defense, and the Spectrum Land Grab

Anpanman

In this solo AST SpaceMobile Podcast episode published February 12, 2026, Anpanman breaks down the company's overnight $1.15 billion 10-year convertible note offering, announced after market close.

He interprets its new 'use of proceeds' language as signaling a pivot toward AI/orbital-data-center opportunities, accelerated global spectrum deployment, and expanded government/defense work.

He argues the raise is minimally dilutive (about 3.4%), pushes pro forma cash to roughly $4 billion, and positions AST as the financially dominant 'partner of choice' for mobile carriers worldwide, especially as SpaceX appears distracted by internal xAI turmoil.

He closes with a review of FY2025 revenue/cash disclosures, hedging mechanics expected to pressure the stock the next day, and a philosophical defense of raising capital ahead of catalysts rather than after them.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile announced an overnight $1 billion (up to $1.15 billion with a $150 million over-allotment option) 10-year convertible note offering after market close, with Anpanman citing a roughly 2% coupon and 20% conversion premium (implying a conversion price near $115/share off the $96 close) — final terms were still pending pricing at the time of the episode.
  • Anpanman estimates total potential dilution from this raise plus retirement of older convertible notes at about 12.6 million shares, or roughly 3.4% of the 369 million shares outstanding, which he calls minimal for a company he says now carries a $36 billion market cap (versus $700-800 million in April 2024).
  • The company's use-of-proceeds language changed materially from its prior (October) convert offering, newly adding 'monetizing the capabilities of our proprietary technology to capture the evolving commercial opportunities related to artificial intelligence' — which Anpanman reads as a deliberate signal toward orbital data centers/edge compute.
  • Pro forma cash following the raise and use of the existing ATM program is estimated at about $4 billion, up from $2.8 billion in cash and equivalents as of December 31, 2025.
  • AST SpaceMobile pre-announced FY2025 revenue of approximately $63-71 million, within its previously guided $50-75 million range, and adjusted operating expenses (excluding stock-based compensation) of roughly $263-275 million.
  • Anpanman frames the successful full unfolding of Bluebird 6 (Block 2, the largest phased array ever deployed in low Earth orbit) as proof the satellite can generate on the order of 100 kilowatts of power (possibly ~120 kW with the solar tail, by his own and others' speculation), which he argues opens the door to high-power applications like AI compute well beyond the company's original direct-to-device messaging use case.
  • Anpanman argues that turmoil at SpaceX/xAI (reported co-founder departures, restructuring, and unverified reports of large layoffs, plus an unconfirmed report that xAI is burning about $1 billion per month) is a competitive tailwind for AST SpaceMobile, since it could distract SpaceX engineering resources and capital away from its Direct-to-Cell service.
  • The company is retiring older debt as part of this transaction: using $50 million of cash to retire the remaining roughly $50 million face value of its 4.25% convertible notes, and issuing $250 million of stock (about 2.6 million shares at the $96 close) to retire a portion of its 2.375% convertible notes, of which $575 million remains outstanding.
  • Anpanman expects the stock to trade heavy in the near term due to convertible-arbitrage hedging (potentially 4-4.5 million shares of short-selling pressure), but notes AST's stock held up relatively well the day of the announcement compared to a broadly weak space sector (e.g., Intuitive Machines -9%, Karman -13%, Rocket Lab -3.4%, Firefly about -10%).

Detailed Discussion14 topics

The Overnight $1.15 Billion Convertible Note Offering

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The company announced this evening, after market close, an overnight $1 billion 10-year convertible note offering (paper), with a $150 million over-allotment option that would bring the total to $1.15 billion if exercised; Anpanman expects it will be exercised assuming demand and stock performance hold up.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman states he believes the coupon is 2% and the conversion premium is about 20%, meaning if priced off today's $96 close, the conversion price would be roughly $115/share — he flags this as not yet fully confirmed, noting deal terms would be finalized and priced the following day.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The deal was marketed on a 'drive-by' basis: investors were brought 'over the wall' confidentially, given roughly a 20-minute marketing call, with books closing at 5pm and pricing expected the next day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman frames the ability to raise $1.15 billion via a same-day 'drive-by' deal as evidence AST has become a seasoned issuer with a deep convertible-investor base, which he says also paves the way for the company to eventually access straight high-yield debt/bank loan markets.

Dilution Math

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Retiring existing convertible notes could require issuing up to about 2.6 million shares for $250 million of converts being retired; combined with up to 9.98 million shares potentially issuable from the new convert (if fully in the money), total potential issuance is about 12.6 million shares.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Against 369 million shares outstanding, 12.6 million potential new shares equates to about 3.4% dilution, which Anpanman calls 'really tiny,' comparing it to the company's $36 billion current market cap versus a $760 million (elsewhere stated as $700-800 million) market cap in April 2024.

Use of Proceeds: New Filing Language

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman contrasts the new use-of-proceeds language with the prior October convert offering's language, which stated proceeds would fund 'the deployment of AST SpaceMobile's worldwide constellation of satellites and in anticipation of adding incremental strategic markets for its Space Mobile service.'

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The new use-of-proceeds language lists five items: accelerating deployment of controlled spectrum bands globally; monetizing proprietary technology for AI commercial opportunities; enhancing investment in government space opportunities in the U.S.; reducing higher-interest debt; and pursuing opportunistic investments to accelerate SpaceMobile service and capabilities. Anpanman says he was told this specific wording was very deliberate.

Spectrum Acceleration Strategy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says AST's primary controlled global spectrum is its Ligado L-band spectrum in the US (and Canada), which he describes as 25 MHz of dedicated, unencumbered spectrum with no terrestrial service using it, meaning it can be lit up everywhere (not just dead zones) and used to help carriers like Verizon, AT&T, and Bell Canada offload network traffic.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman identifies three avenues for AST to acquire additional L-band/S-band spectrum globally: (1) partnerships, citing Saudi Telecom (stc), which already holds about 60 MHz of L-band spectrum in Saudi Arabia (30 MHz down/30 MHz up) that AST could light up via its 10-year commercial deal and $175 million prepayment; (2) regulatory allocation processes; and (3) acquisitions in a fragmented global L/S-band market.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman cites a same-day article in which Orange and Deutsche Telekom, key contributors to the EU's IRIS-2 satellite constellation, expressed doubt the constellation will get off the ground or perform comparably to Starlink, which he interprets as IRIS-2 'starting to fall apart' ahead of the EU's 2 GHz S-band spectrum reallocation process expected in 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman speculates that in the 2027 EU spectrum reallocation, existing 2 GHz S-band holders EchoStar and Viasat are unlikely to retain allocations, and that AST SpaceMobile (via its SatCo joint venture with Vodafone) is well positioned to win an allocation, with Starlink also a possible contender depending on Elon Musk's political relationship with Europe at that time.

AI / Orbital Compute Opportunity

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman interprets 'monetizing the capabilities of our proprietary technology to capture the evolving commercial opportunities related to artificial intelligence' as pointing toward orbital data centers and edge compute, and says the company would not include such specific, unusual language lightly given its typically conservative disclosure style.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman states the newly unfolded Bluebird 6 (Block 2) phased array can generate on the order of 100 kilowatts of power per satellite — a level he associates with 'Kardashev level 2' power utilization — and speculates (citing unnamed community estimates) it could be closer to 120 kW including the solar tail, versus SpaceX's V3 satellite generation which he says can do about 20 kW while aspiring toward 100 kW in the future.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman speculates that large tech/cloud companies (he names Google, Amazon, Blue Origin, Microsoft, and OpenAI as examples) are likely reaching out to AST SpaceMobile given its demonstrated high-power satellite platform, patents, and aerospace expertise, though he says he does not know AST's specific plans (e.g., building satellites for others vs. offering compute-as-a-service).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Anpanman recounts personally meeting two senior AST engineers in an elevator the night before the BlueWalker 3 launch, who displayed calm confidence due to redundancy planning — used to illustrate the value of the company's built-up aerospace expertise and experience.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes the company holds 3,800 patents as part of the technology/expertise moat underlying its ability to pursue AI-related commercial opportunities.

Government Space Investment (Golden Dome)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says having $4 billion of cash strengthens AST's credibility with government agencies like SDA and MDA when pursuing large contracts, contrasting this with smaller companies on award lists that lack capital to actually execute; he references the Department of War's (Pete Hegseth's) stated shift away from cost-plus contracts toward a 'neo-prime' model requiring contractors to spend their own capital upfront.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Anpanman states FM-1 and FM-2 (Bluebird 6 and Bluebird 7) are effectively government satellites tied to SDA HALO testing, and that commercializing what comes out of that research will require capital.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman reiterates a theory previously discussed in the SpaceMob community that Bluebird satellites could 'quarterback' the Golden Dome missile-defense architecture by providing AI-capable command-and-control in space, given their power generation and communication capabilities, alongside other cited use cases like radar sensing, electronic warfare, jamming/spoofing, and backup GPS (the company has reportedly discussed roughly 10 use cases at a prior investor conference).

Debt Reduction

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The company plans to use $50 million of cash to retire remaining 4.25% convertible notes, of which Anpanman estimates only about $50 million face value remains outstanding, and will issue $250 million of stock (at the $96 close) to retire a portion of its 2.375% convertible notes, of which about $575 million is outstanding.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    After this transaction, Anpanman says the two primary outstanding convert issues will both carry a 2% coupon and 10-year maturity, totaling roughly $2.3 billion in size, giving the company a decade to refinance or pay off if the notes don't convert to equity.

Opportunistic Investments, Recruiting, and Corporate Strategy

3
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says the company was previously fully funded for 90-100 satellites and funded through 2027, but this additional capital gives it flexibility to accelerate the design/production of the Block 3 (mid-band) constellation and start pursuing the 'next shell' more aggressively.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes the company's only prior acquisition-like transaction was acquiring a license to make Halon thrusters in-house after an original supplier could not deliver, part of a strategy to reach about 95% vertical integration; he says the company has otherwise been organically ('homegrown') built and floats the idea of possible future tuck-in acquisitions.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    An anonymous contact who does recruiting work for the company told Anpanman that AST has hired a significant number of people away from SpaceX and other primes/aerospace companies, including two executives recently recruited from Raytheon, which Anpanman cites as evidence of the company's growing talent draw despite being based in Midland, Texas.

Competitive Landscape: SpaceX/xAI Distraction

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Anpanman contrasts AST's focused execution with what he describes as internal turmoil at SpaceX/xAI following their merger, citing (with uncertainty about reliability) reports that several co-founders have left, the company is restructuring, and unverified social-media claims that about 50% of employees are being let go.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman cites an article claiming xAI is burning about $1 billion per month, and argues SpaceX will need to lean harder on commercial Starlink and launch revenue to fund that cash burn and related data-center R&D, meaning it can no longer credibly withhold launch services from customers as bears once feared.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman argues this distraction is a competitive tailwind for AST because it could pull SpaceX engineers away from Direct-to-Cell development toward data centers, and poses a philosophical question of whether winning the AI arms race could ultimately be a 'Pyrrhic victory' for heavy AI spenders.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman reiterates that Starlink's existing Direct-to-Cell service and its future V3-based service will remain technologically inferior to AST's platform based on what is currently known.

MNO 'Partner of Choice' Positioning

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman argues carriers increasingly view AST as the long-term 'partner of choice' over the next decade because AST augments carriers' existing networks rather than competing with them, whereas Starlink's fixed-wireless home terminal service directly competes with MNOs' fiber and 5G home broadband businesses.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:27

    Anpanman notes recent news that Elon Musk may be interested in releasing his own phone and a competing service, which he says makes MNOs feel more threatened by SpaceX/Starlink and reinforces AST's positioning.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman says AST's challenge now is less about demand (everyone wants to partner) and more about sequencing — deciding which markets/partnerships to prioritize and stage given the constellation cannot serve all markets simultaneously once operational.

Financial Disclosures Pre-Announced With the Raise

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:41:53

    The company pre-announced FY2025 revenue of approximately $63 to $71 million, within its previously guided range of $50 to $75 million for the year; the exact figure is not yet final because the books haven't closed.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:41:53

    Adjusted operating expenses excluding stock-based compensation are expected to come in between approximately $263 million and $275 million for the year.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:41:53

    Cash and equivalents at the end of December (2025) were $2.8 billion; pro forma for this offering and some ATM usage, Anpanman estimates the company will have about $4 billion in cash.

Market Reaction and Hedging Mechanics

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman explains that if the convert is placed mostly with fundamental long-only holders there will be little hedging pressure, but if placed largely with convertible arbitrage funds (he estimates maybe 70% of the issue at roughly a 60 delta), they may need to short an estimated 4 to 4.5 million shares to hedge, creating near-term selling pressure.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:41:53

    Despite the convert announcement and broad space-sector weakness that day (Intuitive Machines down 9%, Karman down 13%, Rocket Lab down 3.4%, Firefly down roughly 10%), AST's stock closed only slightly down/up for most of the day before falling after hours, which Anpanman calls impressive given the confidential marketing process.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    In after-hours trading (on Robinhood, which he notes is not fully reliable due to low volume), the stock was quoted around $89, down about $7 from the $96 close.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman confirms that some market participants likely had prior knowledge of the deal (either through being legitimately 'brought over the wall' as restricted investors, or through leaks), but cautions that trading on material non-public information while restricted carries serious legal risk.

Launch Cadence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman says hitting 5 orbital launches by March, a goal he'd floated earlier the same day, is 'not looking likely,' with 3 launches probable and 4 possible; he attributes delays partly to a backup in SpaceX processing (with 1-2 launch pads reportedly down) amid Dragon and Artemis missions competing for slots.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 (AST's launch vehicle) is expected no earlier than late February, and Anpanman thinks it will likely slip into February or March; the lined-up Falcon 9 launches are expected to slip into late March or early April.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman's overall expectation is about 3 orbital launches by the end of March, calling the timeline slip 'not great' but 'not the end of the world,' emphasizing the company's philosophy of not rushing satellites into space before they're ready.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman notes the successful unfolding of Bluebird 6 materially increased the probability of AST's U.S. commercial market access (SCS) application being granted.

Investor Q&A and Philosophy on Capital Raises

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Responding to a listener question on whether this will be the company's last raise, Anpanman says no — if a large government award (he gives a hypothetical $3-4 billion award) required additional spend the company hadn't already allocated for, it would raise the needed capital rather than pass on the opportunity, though he expects future capital increasingly to come from non-dilutive sources like commercial prepayments and eventually debt backed by revenue once commercial service scales; he also notes a pending $500 million Ex-Im financing application still outstanding.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman argues that raising capital ahead of major positive catalysts (rather than after them, as is more typical in biotech) is deliberate corporate-finance strategy to reward investors who buy in early, and expects further positive catalysts in the weeks/months ahead beyond the known launches.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Using a hypothetical early-Facebook dilution analogy, Anpanman argues dilution used to fund accretive growth opportunities is not inherently bad, pushing back on listener comments framing the raise simply as 'dilution.'

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:41:53

    A listener asked about an 'AT&T Eptronic' investment announcement; Anpanman said he had not yet seen it and would look into it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:41:53

    Anpanman closes by saying he and Kook feel comfortable with the rationale for this raise (viewing it as a sign of upcoming opportunities rather than distress), and that he personally added to his AST stock and options position earlier in the day and plans to look for buying opportunities if the stock falls further on the hedging-driven selling.

Watch Items7

  • Final pricing and terms of the $1-1.15 billion 10-year convertible note offering (coupon, conversion premium)

    Expected to price the next trading day Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Blue Origin New Glenn 3 launch (carrying AST's next Bluebird satellite)

    No earlier than late February 2026, likely slipping into February or March Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Lined-up Falcon 9 launches

    Likely slipping into late March or early April 2026 Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Total orbital launches achieved by end of Q1

    Anpanman now expects about 3 by end of March 2026, down from an earlier hoped-for 5 Anpanman 00:41:53
  • EU 2 GHz S-band spectrum reallocation process, relevant to AST/Vodafone's SatCo bid

    Expected in 2027 (about 1 year 3 months from the episode) Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Finalization of FY2025 revenue figure within the pre-announced $63-71 million range

    Books not yet closed at time of episode Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Stock trading pressure from convertible-arbitrage hedging

    Expected over the following 2-3 trading days Anpanman 00:41:53

Open Questions7

  • Will the $150 million over-allotment option on the new convertible notes be exercised, and what will the final coupon and conversion premium be?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will AST achieve 3, 4, or 5 orbital launches by the end of March, given New Glenn and Falcon 9 schedule slippage?

    Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Will this convertible note offering be the company's last capital raise, or will future large contract opportunities (e.g., a hypothetical multi-billion-dollar government award) require additional raises?

    Anpanman 00:41:53
  • What exactly is the 'AT&T Eptronic' investment announcement a listener referenced, which Anpanman had not yet reviewed?

    Anpanman 00:41:53
  • Will AST SpaceMobile or its SatCo joint venture with Vodafone actually win an allocation of EU 2 GHz S-band spectrum in the 2027 reallocation process?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will SpaceX/xAI's reported internal turmoil and cash burn meaningfully slow development of its Direct-to-Cell competing service, or prove to be a temporary distraction?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • What specific commercial or government use cases will the company pursue for 'monetizing proprietary technology' for AI, given the new use-of-proceeds disclosure language?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
2026-02-11 29:01

Anpanman - WAKE N BAKE - Let's run it back and discuss BB6 Unfolding

Anpanman

Solo Anpanman episode reacting to BlueBird 6 (the first Block 2 satellite) successfully unfolding its 2,400-square-foot phased array in orbit. He frames it as the ultimate de-risking event for AST SpaceMobile's entire constellation buildout.

He walks through why the new Block 2 'tuna can' design is simpler and more reliable than Block 1. He also contrasts AST's low-band spectrum approach with Starlink Direct-to-Cell's limitations, and previews the BlueBird 7 launch and 2026 satellite cadence.

The headline conclusion: BlueBird 6's unfold proves out a totally new, higher-performance spacecraft design and validates that AST's low-band, seamless-connectivity vision is achievable, even as near-term launch timing stays fluid.

Key Takeaways

  • BlueBird 6, AST SpaceMobile's first Block 2 satellite, successfully unfolded its 2,400-square-foot phased array in low Earth orbit, which Anpanman calls the 'ultimate de-risking event' for the whole constellation because it validates an entirely new spacecraft design.
  • The 2,400 sq ft array is about 3.5 times larger than the 693 sq ft arrays on BlueWalker 3 and the five Block 1 BlueBirds (which had unfolded successfully 6-for-6 previously), and Anpanman describes it as the largest commercial communications array ever deployed and operated in low Earth orbit.
  • Anpanman cites an anonymous former SpaceX director of engineering, quoted in a 2022 short-seller report, who called the size of AST's antenna 'terrifying' and said it was 'more or less impossible to accurately test on the ground' — a claim Anpanman says the company has now disproven.
  • The Block 2 'tuna can' design cuts the satellite's major deployment movements from 6 (in Block 1) down to 2 and relocates the control bus from the center of the array to a corner, making the spacecraft simpler and more reliable despite being much bigger (8 fused 'Micron' modules per panel versus 2 in Block 1).
  • Part of the redesign eliminates the Block 1-style launch vehicle adapter (LVA); under current space-debris rules, jettisoned LVA pieces above roughly 500-600 km would need their own propulsion to actively deorbit or they'd remain as space junk for 10-20 years, which the tuna-can housing avoids entirely.
  • Anpanman states the new Block 2 satellites carry roughly 10 times the processing power/capability of the Block 1 BlueBirds.
  • BlueBird 7 is targeted to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn no earlier than late February 2026, with the exact date uncertain due to a congested Cape Canaveral schedule (a nearby SpaceX crew launch and an Artemis mission) and Blue Origin's undecided choice between reusing the New Glenn 2 booster or flying a new one.
  • Anpanman personally guesses the company will complete only about 3 orbital launches by end of March 2026 rather than 5, with roughly 2 slipping into April, while the company has reiterated a full-year target of 45 to 60 satellites in orbit by end of 2026 against roughly 75 satellites' worth of booked launch capacity.
  • Anpanman argues AST SpaceMobile's use of low-band cellular spectrum gives it a seamless indoor/in-vehicle experience that Starlink Direct-to-Cell can't match, since Starlink relies on mid/higher-band spectrum (1.9 GHz with T-Mobile plus newly acquired 2 GHz EchoStar spectrum) that doesn't propagate through walls as well and needs a clearer sky view.
  • Starlink's Direct-to-Cell constellation has about 650 satellites currently in orbit providing what Anpanman calls a 'minimally viable' texting/low-band-data service, and its planned V3 satellites will reportedly carry a 5-by-5-meter phased array versus AST's 15-by-15-meter array, without the ability to form pinpoint fixed ground cells.
  • Anpanman explains that a real-world lag between a satellite's actual unfolding and the company's public announcement is normal, since AST spends time detumbling/stabilizing the satellite, checking thermal health and battery charge, waiting for calm space-weather conditions, and confirming nominal operation before issuing a press release.
  • AST SpaceMobile's next quarterly (Q4) earnings update, which Anpanman expects to be scheduled soon, is being anticipated as potentially 'the most important quarter in the company's history.'

Detailed Discussion9 topics

BlueBird 6 Unfolding — The De-Risking Milestone

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    BlueBird 6 successfully unfolded overnight; this is a massive de-risking event because it's a totally new spacecraft design, and the successful unfold clears the way for the rest of the Block 2 constellation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    If BlueBird 6 had failed to unfold, the company would likely have still moved ahead with BlueBird 7, but the troubleshooting and complications from the first test satellite having issues could have slowed things down.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    BlueBird 6's 2,400 sq ft array is roughly 3.5 times bigger than the 693 sq ft arrays on BlueWalker 3 and the five Block 1 BlueBirds, which had unfolded successfully 6-for-6 previously.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    BlueBird 6 is now the largest communications array ever unfolded and successfully flown in low Earth orbit, putting AST in an elite group that historically only included entities like NASA and intelligence agencies.

Historical Skepticism vs. Reality

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    A 2022 short-seller report quoted an anonymous former SpaceX director of engineering (who had led a team of 150 engineers) saying 'the size of the antenna is terrifying,' that only a handful of entities like NASA and intelligence agencies have deployed a foldable structure that big, and that it's 'more or less impossible to accurately test on the ground.'

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:27

    Abel Avellan's vision from the start was that delivering seamless broadband to unmodified phones using low-band spectrum would require a massive, high-power phased array — the company has now built and flown it.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Rather than iteratively building and launching test satellites, AST tested its concept by launching an actual smartphone into orbit inside the BlueWalker 1 CubeSat, since the phone couldn't be modified but the ground-based satellite counterpart could be iterated quickly on Earth while still replicating real orbital conditions like Doppler shift and signal delay.

Block 2 'Tuna Can' Design Evolution

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:17

    Company management hinted in the fall/winter of 2024, after the Block 1 launch, that the Block 2 design would be 'less risky and simpler,' though at the time he assumed it would just be a bigger version of the same Block 1 form factor; the actual new design was only revealed later via FCC filings.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    The Block 2 design moves the control bus from the center of the array to a corner and reduces the satellite's major deployment movements from 6 (in Block 1) down to 2.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    Two of the new 'tuna can' metal spacecraft were built for the SDA-related satellites, BlueBird 6 and BlueBird 7; it has been speculated that a solar tail or other government-requested add-ons may have been included on these, potentially delaying the build.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Block 2 panels fuse 8 'Micron' modules together per panel versus 2 in Block 1, making the panels much bigger; this creates more mechanical stress during the unfold event itself, but results in a more rigid array with less vibration once fully deployed.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:17

    The new Block 2 satellite has roughly 10 times the processing power/capability of a Block 1 satellite.

Regulatory Driver: Avoiding Space Junk

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Block 1's launch vehicle adapter (LVA) — a 'Coke can' shaped shell held by 3 straps around the folded satellite — splits into two halves that fall away during initial deployment; under current regulations, jettisoned pieces above roughly 500-600 km orbits need their own propulsion/guidance to actively deorbit, or they'd otherwise remain space debris for 10-20 years. The new tuna-can design eliminates the LVA entirely, avoiding this issue.

Why the PR Announcement Took Time

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    His guess is that BlueBird 6 was actually unfolded a handful of days before the official announcement; after a satellite reaches orbit, it must be detumbled and stabilized (using magnetorquers and Earth's magnetic field), have its thermal state checked and batteries charged, and the company waits for calm space-weather conditions (no solar flares) before unfolding and then confirms the array and signals are nominal before issuing a press release.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Community members, including someone known as 'Katzi' and others on X/Reddit, correctly called the successful unfolding several days before the official company announcement — which he calls 'true alpha.'

Competitive Positioning vs. Starlink Direct-to-Cell

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    SpaceX's Starlink Direct-to-Cell currently has about 650 satellites in orbit, providing what he calls a 'minimally viable' service limited to texting and some dumbed-down low-band data applications.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Based on FCC filings, Starlink's planned V3 satellites will carry at most a 5-by-5-meter phased array compared to AST's 15-by-15-meter array, and Starlink's design lacks the ability to create pinpoint, fixed ground cells.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:11:17

    Starlink currently uses 1.9 GHz spectrum with T-Mobile and has purchased 2 GHz spectrum from EchoStar — both higher-band than AST's cellular low-band spectrum — which will provide decent data but not a seamless, walls-penetrating cellular-like experience.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    AST's use of low-band cellular spectrum, which propagates through walls, will let its service work seamlessly indoors, in vehicles, and on planes without requiring a clear line of sight to the sky — something Starlink will struggle to match even with the EchoStar spectrum purchase.

Launch Roadmap: BlueBird 7 and 2026 Cadence

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:17

    BlueBird 7 is targeted to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn no earlier than late February 2026; the FCC and Blue Origin appear to be doing prep work to coordinate spectrum usage between the rocket and command center ahead of the launch.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:11:17

    Cape Canaveral has a launch backlog — a SpaceX crew launch has been pushed back 2 days to no earlier than February 13, and an Artemis mission is set for the end of the month — creating uncertainty over whether BlueBird 7 launches before or after Artemis; Blue Origin also hasn't decided whether to reuse the refurbished New Glenn 2 booster or fly a new one.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    His own guess is that 5 orbital launches by the end of March 2026 'is not going to happen' — more likely 3 at best, with about 2 slipping into April.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:11:17

    The company has reiterated a target of 45 to 60 satellites in orbit by the end of 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    He recalls the company has booked enough launch capacity for about 75 satellites this year — effectively overbooking relative to the 45-60 target — so Blue Origin's cadence (New Glenn currently carries 6 satellites per launch, rising to 8 once optimized) is a key swing factor.

Company Philosophy and Investor Patience

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:11:17

    The company's DNA is 'measure twice, cut once' rather than throwing things at the wall to see what sticks; getting it wrong with an expensive satellite in space is a far bigger problem than a product recall for an Earth-based consumer product.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    He encourages the SpaceMob community to be patient with delays of weeks, months, or even quarters, framing the eventual constellation buildout and commercial service launch as 'inevitable' and urging investors to encourage rather than criticize the company for taking the time to do it right.

Upcoming Q4 Earnings Call

1
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:17

    He expects the company will set a date soon for its Q4 earnings update, which he anticipates will be 'the most important quarter in the company's history' given everything currently in motion.

Watch Items4

  • BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn

    No earlier than late February 2026 (could slip further given Cape Canaveral congestion and booster-reuse decision) Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Q4 earnings call / company update

    Date not yet set; expected to be announced soon Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Next batch of BlueBird satellites ready to ship

    Soon; unclear whether the company will issue a press release about it Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Target of 45 to 60 satellites in orbit

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:11:17

Open Questions5

  • What is the exact launch date for BlueBird 7 on New Glenn, beyond 'no earlier than late February'?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Will Blue Origin launch BlueBird 7 before or after the nearby Artemis mission given Cape Canaveral's congested schedule?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Will Blue Origin reuse the refurbished New Glenn 2 booster or fly a new booster for the BlueBird 7 mission?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Will the company issue a press release about the next batch of BlueBird satellites being shipped?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
  • Did BlueBird 6 and 7 include a solar tail or other government-requested add-ons that delayed their build, as some in the community have speculated?

    Anpanman 00:11:17
2026-02-11 43:11

Anpanman - Block 2 Unfolded

Anpanman

In this solo, late-night X Spaces recap (republished by SpaceMob dated 2026-02-11), Anpanman celebrates AST SpaceMobile's successful unfolding of the 2,400-square-foot Block 2 phased array on BlueBird 6.

He frames it as a definitive rebuttal to a 2022 Kerrisdale short-report quote from a former SpaceX engineer calling large foldable arrays in space 'terrifying' and near-impossible to test on the ground.

Anpanman walks through the redesigned 'tuna can' Block 2 architecture: a debris-regulation-driven, self-encapsulated satellite with a single-arm unfold and 8-fused-micron panels, versus Block 1's two-arm, six-direction unfold with only 2 microns fused. He explains why confirmation took several days — detumbling, system checks, flight-stability verification before PR.

The headline conclusion: the company is now '7 for 7' on major array deployments, and this de-risks the upcoming BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3. And investors should stay patient through the volatility given management's unblemished execution record and Abel Avellan's continued zero share sales.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 satellite BlueBird 6 (BB6) successfully unfolded its 2,400-square-foot phased array, the largest commercial communications array ever deployed in low Earth orbit, roughly 3.5x the size of the 693-square-foot Block 1 array.
  • Anpanman cites a 2022 Kerrisdale short-seller report that quoted a former SpaceX director of engineering calling large foldable space antennas 'terrifying' and something only NASA and intelligence agencies had ever done — Anpanman argues this quote, meant as FUD, now reads as validation given AST has since deployed such arrays seven times successfully (BlueWalker 3, BlueBird 1-5, and now BlueBird 6).
  • The Block 2 'tuna can' design change was driven by evolving space-debris regulations: unlike Block 1's design, which jettisoned two cylindrical launch-vehicle-adapter (LVA) halves that would remain as space debris for a decade or more, Block 2 satellites are fully self-encapsulated with no debris left behind.
  • Block 2's unfolding mechanism is simpler than Block 1's — one large arm swings out in roughly two major motions versus Block 1's six major unfolding directions — achieved by fusing 8 microns together per rigid panel (versus 2 microns in Block 1), which reduces the number of hinges and potential failure points, though it also concentrates more mechanical stress during the single large unfold.
  • AST SpaceMobile used a 'reverse testing' strategy for its original technology validation: rather than iterating on satellites in orbit, the company put a phone in a CubeSat (BlueBird/BlueWalker-era testing) and orbited it while building and iterating the phased array on the ground, which Anpanman says was far more cost-effective than traditional iterative-launch approaches like SpaceX's.
  • It took several days after the physical unfolding for AST to publicly confirm success because the company runs detumbling, orientation, and post-unfold system checks (verifying no microns were damaged and the spacecraft can still be flown/controlled) before issuing a press release, to avoid having to walk back a premature announcement.
  • The successful BB6 unfolding de-risks the upcoming BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 rocket, expected as early as late February 2026 but more likely March 2026, since BB7 uses the same production and testing process as BB6.
  • Anpanman says the company will not hit its informally watched target of 5 orbital launches by the end of Q1 2026 — he expects only about 3 (one being BlueBird 7 on New Glenn, plus one more batch of 3 satellites by end of March), with two more batches slipping into April — but the company reiterated its full-year target of 45 to 60 satellites in orbit by the end of 2026.
  • Founder and CEO Abel Avellan has not sold a single share of AST SpaceMobile stock across the stock's full range from roughly $2 to $130, which Anpanman cites (via a comment attributed to a community member 'Tut') as a reason for investor confidence.
  • SpaceMob community members (cited as Katsy and Toad) reportedly identified signs the BB6 array had successfully deployed several days before the official announcement, including observing AST SpaceMobile employees and partners liking related social media posts.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

Kerrisdale short report and the SpaceX engineer's 2022 'terrifying' quote

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    In 2022, short-seller Kerrisdale timed a short report to land right after BlueWalker 3's successful September 2022 launch, when the company's hands were tied in responding; the report quoted a former SpaceX director of engineering (who led a team of 150 engineers) saying the antenna's size was 'terrifying,' that only NASA and intelligence entities had ever deployed a foldable structure that big in space, and that it was 'almost impossible to accurately test on the ground.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:04:41

    Anpanman says that quote initially worried him in 2022, but in hindsight it reads as a compliment: AST SpaceMobile — a startup — has now successfully unfolded large phased arrays 7 times (BlueWalker 3, BlueBirds 1-5, and BlueBird 6), putting it in the same elite class as NASA and intelligence agencies, a feat even SpaceX (which was 'terrified' of it) still hasn't attempted.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:05:30

    The company's DNA is described as 'measure twice, cut once' — succeeding on the first attempt every time rather than iterating through failures, which Anpanman contrasts with criticism the company has received for missing self-imposed timelines.

Reverse testing strategy (BlueBird 1 CubeSat phone test)

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:08:10

    To address the SpaceX engineer's claim that large phased arrays are nearly impossible to test on the ground, Anpanman explains AST's 'reverse testing' approach: for BlueBird-1 (described as a small CubeSat), the company put a phone inside and sent it into orbit at 17,000 miles per hour, while keeping the phased array itself on the ground so it could be iterated and improved rapidly without needing to relaunch hardware.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:09:00

    This approach was far more cost-effective and allowed faster innovation than the traditional SpaceX-style method of launching satellites, testing/calibrating them in orbit, and sending up new iterations when problems arose.

Block 2 design change: origins and timeline

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:10:40

    Anpanman recalls first hearing about the Block 2 form-factor change from company management in roughly fall/winter 2024, initially not understanding it would involve moving the control satellite from the center and radically changing the unfolding mechanism.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:11:20

    The company publicly disclosed the Block 2 design change via an FCC filing around the beginning of 2025, at which point commentator Tim Ferriss criticized the redesign, claiming the satellites would never get approved or successfully launched — FUD that Anpanman says Ferriss has repeatedly peddled.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:50

    From the early-2025 disclosure to the successful BB6 unfolding, Anpanman estimates it was roughly a 9-to-12-month process to design, build, and fly a completely new spacecraft architecture that still uses the same fundamental 'micron' building block but assembles and encapsulates them differently.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:12:30

    The original target was to launch Block 2 sometime around April 2025, but internal delays and launch-provider delays pushed the launch to the end of 2025 (BlueBird 6 launched December 2025 per the event ledger).

Block 2 'tuna can' architecture vs. Block 1 design

5
  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:14:00

    Block 1 (BlueWalker 3, BlueBirds 1-5) used a launch vehicle adapter (LVA) — two cylindrical halves held by straps around the folded array and a rectangular control satellite — that popped off and separated into orbit before the array unfolded in two arms and then further unfolded from the bar configuration into the full array.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:17:30

    The discarded LVA halves would remain in orbit for a decade or more before deorbiting and burning up, and regulators are now requiring that any jettisoned LVA pieces carry their own propulsion to deorbit faster — an added weight and cost that motivated AST to redesign around a fully self-encapsulated 'tuna can' structure with no debris left behind.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:10

    In the new design, FM1/FM2 (BlueBird 6 and BlueBird 7) are enclosed in a metal 'tuna can' housing the control satellite and folded phased array together; on deployment, a single arm swings out in one direction, versus Block 1's six major unfolding directions.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:19:30

    Block 1 fused at most 2 microns together per rigid section before hinges connected them; Block 2 fuses 8 microns together into larger rigid rectangles, reducing the number of hinges and minor-unfold points needed, making the mechanism simpler and less prone to failure — though the fewer, larger unfolding motions place more mechanical stress on each fused section (a 2,400 sq ft unfold versus 693 sq ft).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:30

    Anpanman assumes the company reinforced/hardened the hinges and fused-micron joints to handle the added stress from the larger single-arm unfold, though this is inference rather than a company statement.

Why confirmation of BB6's unfold took several days

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:24:00

    After launch, a satellite goes through 'detumbling' (using magnetorquers that leverage Earth's magnetic field to stop tumbling/spinning and properly orient the spacecraft) before any unfolding is attempted, and the company also waits for favorable space-weather conditions (e.g., no solar flares) before unfolding.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:00

    SpaceMob community members closely tracking the satellite (cited as Katsy and Toad) predicted with high confidence that the array had physically unfolded a few days before the company's official announcement.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:26:00

    The company waits to announce success until after post-unfold system checks confirm no microns were damaged and that the spacecraft can still be properly flown/controlled, because announcing prematurely and then having something go wrong would be far worse than a delayed announcement.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:35:40

    Community sleuthing (a post, possibly from a Korean investor following LinkedIn) noted that AST SpaceMobile employees and partner-company personnel were liking a social media post suggesting BlueBird 6 had unfolded according to tracking data, which Anpanman says was used to infer the deployment had likely succeeded before the formal PR.

Investor psychology and patience

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:29:00

    Anpanman argues that successful space investing requires patience and an understanding that satellite deployment involves risks not present in ordinary consumer product businesses — launch-vibration damage, unhardened radiation-induced chip failures, and extreme thermal swings can all cause failures, and redundant systems (including the phased array's ability to keep operating even if some microns fail) are built in to mitigate this.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:33:00

    Anpanman references community pushback and anxiety on Twitter/Reddit during the days between the presumed unfold and the official announcement, with some fearing the satellite had failed; he attributes this to a broader space-sector sell-off and general volatility amplifying worst-case thinking.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:36:40

    Anpanman relays a comment attributed to community member 'Tut' that founder/CEO Abel Avellan has not sold a single share of AST SpaceMobile stock across its full range, from around $2 to $130, as a reason to trust management's conviction.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:10

    Anpanman states the company is now '7 for 7' on major satellite/array deployments with no failures yet, though he acknowledges that at some point a satellite will likely fail or get 'bricked' as the constellation scales.

Competitive comparison to Starlink

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:31:40

    Anpanman argues AST's Block 2 array/technology is 'far superior' to Starlink's V2/V2.5 direct-to-cell satellites (which he describes as roughly 650 satellites currently in service) and even to Starlink's planned V3 satellites intended to launch on Starship.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:22:30

    Starlink's satellite design is described as simpler and cheaper (a flat plate with solar-panel-style deployables), which allows mass production but limits how large a phased array they can practically deploy, unlike AST's large fused-micron array approach.

Upcoming BlueBird 7 launch and near-term production/launch cadence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:23:20

    BlueBird 7 is expected to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 as early as late February 2026, though Anpanman thinks it's more likely to occur in March 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:38:50

    New Glenn 3 will most likely reuse the New Glenn 2 booster, though there is a chance a new booster will be used if the New Glenn 2 booster can't be refurbished in time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:40

    Based on due diligence, Anpanman believes the company is already producing satellites at a cadence of about 6 per month, and expects the upcoming Q4/quarterly update to be full of production-cadence detail, with one batch of 3 satellites hopefully shipped to Cape Canaveral by then.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:40:10

    Anpanman states the company will not hit the informally watched target of 5 orbital launches by the end of Q1 2026 — he expects only about 3 total (BlueBird 7 on New Glenn plus one more batch of 3 by end of March), with the remaining 2 batches slipping into April.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:40:40

    The company reiterated its guidance of getting 45 to 60 satellites into orbit by the end of 2026, contingent partly on whether Blue Origin's New Glenn can increase its launch cadence; if not, Anpanman notes the company has booked enough additional launch capacity (he estimates around 70-75 satellites' worth) via SpaceX Falcon 9 to cover the gap.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:38:20

    Other near-term Cape Canaveral schedule context: a SpaceX Dragon crew launch on Falcon 9 was pushed back about 2 days to no earlier than February 13, and NASA's Artemis mission is expected toward the end of February or early March, with New Glenn 3 (BlueBird 7) launching either before or after Artemis.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:10

    Anpanman mentions the company has previously invited investors to launch events via a selection/lottery process, and notes that even without an invitation, good public viewing of the BlueBird 7 launch is available from within a few miles of the Cape Canaveral launch site.

Watch Items7

  • BlueBird 7 launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3

    As early as late February 2026, more likely March 2026 Anpanman 00:23:20
  • One more batch of 3 Block 2 satellites shipped/launched

    By end of March 2026 Anpanman 00:40:10
  • Remaining 2 batches of satellites launch

    Slipping into April 2026 Anpanman 00:40:20
  • Upcoming quarterly (Q4) company update with production cadence detail

    Coming quarter (not specifically dated) Anpanman 00:39:40
  • Company target of 45-60 satellites in orbit

    By end of 2026 Anpanman 00:40:40
  • SpaceX Dragon crew launch on Falcon 9 (Cape Canaveral)

    No earlier than February 13, 2026 (pushed back ~2 days) Anpanman 00:38:20
  • NASA Artemis mission launch

    End of February or early March 2026 Anpanman 00:38:30

Open Questions3

  • Exactly where the control satellite sits within the deployed Block 2 array and its precise in-orbit flight orientation (speculated as a 'manta ray'-like configuration with a possible solar tail) remains unconfirmed community speculation.

    Anpanman 00:27:50
  • Whether New Glenn 3 will reuse the New Glenn 2 booster or require a new booster if refurbishment isn't completed in time.

    Anpanman 00:38:50
  • Whether Blue Origin's New Glenn can increase its launch cadence enough to hit the company's 45-60 satellite year-end target, or whether AST will need to lean more heavily on its overbooked SpaceX Falcon 9 capacity.

    Anpanman 00:40:40
2026-02-10 27:25

Kook's Weekly - February 9 - Smoothies, Strokes, and SpaceMobile

Kook

In this solo "Kook's Weekly" episode, Kook opens with a personal PSA about a suspected stroke/metabolic crash brought on by combining peptides, a lime-heavy smoothie, and strenuous exercise, warning listeners against unsupervised biohacking.

He then recaps a volatile week for ASTS driven by AI-datacenter sentiment and an Amazon fixed-wireless-constellation scare. From there he covers a new community-sourced data point suggesting AST SpaceMobile's spectral efficiency (~6 bits/hertz) is far above prior estimates.

He also covers parabolic company headcount growth, new Hyundai/Vodafone and FirstNet developments, progress in the Ligado spectrum docket, deepening Apple/iPhone testing signals, and Elon Musk's pivot toward an AI-data-center-in-space narrative that Kook frames as a possible retreat from direct-to-device competition.

The episode closes with a caution against leveraged ASTS ETFs and Kook's reiterated long-term $100 price-target thesis.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook, host of the AST SpaceMobile podcast, suffered a suspected stroke/metabolic crash over a weekend after combining a doctor-supervised peptide regimen with a lime-cucumber-avocado protein smoothie and strenuous pushups; an MRI showed no brain hemorrhage, and he is warning listeners against DIY biohacking (e.g. ordering unregulated "Temu peptides") without medical oversight.
  • New data, reportedly surfaced in a Vodafone-related document and flagged by a community analyst nicknamed 'Dr. Mike,' suggests AST SpaceMobile satellites can achieve spectral efficiency of about 6 bits per hertz, well above the roughly 2-3 bits/hertz the community had previously assumed, which combined with spectrum reuse implies data capacity much higher than earlier estimates.
  • A community researcher known as 'Only Six Inches' pointed to parabolic headcount growth at AST SpaceMobile as evidence the company is aggressively scaling to capture a large addressable market rather than waiting to validate demand first.
  • Hyundai Motor Group is partnering with Vodafone IoT to deploy connected cars across 5 Middle East countries, a find surfaced by fellow host Anpanman, following a similar connected-car mandate trend Kook says began in India.
  • AST SpaceMobile is reportedly testing with iPhone 17 series phones per an FCC filing, feeding speculation that Apple's stated vision for iPhone 18 and later models (always-on satellite connectivity without pointing the phone at the sky) describes AST SpaceMobile's technology.
  • A Forbes article comparing SpaceX and AST SpaceMobile quoted a professor saying satellite tech comparisons and said 'what will work best remains to be seen,' which Kook read as early mainstream media validation that the two companies are not equivalent competitors.
  • Elon Musk revived talk of a SpaceX-branded phone and clashed publicly with Apple over Globalstar spectrum access after Apple reportedly declined to give SpaceX/Globalstar spectrum; Kook speculates Musk is shifting strategic focus toward a proposed AI-data-center-in-space concept (potentially up to 1 million satellites) as a possible 'off-ramp' from a direct-to-device market Kook believes AST SpaceMobile is winning.
  • SpaceX has filed last-minute legal opposition ('lawfare') in AST SpaceMobile's regulatory docket; Kook guesses (not company-confirmed) that full SCS/FCC approval could still arrive within about a month, with community member @justbar tracking the FCC docket for updates.
  • A newly launched double-leveraged ASTS ETF carries significant theta decay and, per Kook, is unsuitable for long-term holding unless the stock only ever goes up; he reiterated warnings against margin, short-term options, and shorting the stock.
  • Kook reiterated a long-term thesis of AST SpaceMobile eventually reaching a $100 stock price and urged the community to stay disciplined, keep researching, and remain grateful rather than jinxing the outcome.

Detailed Discussion16 topics

Personal Health Scare / PSA

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  • Kook Untagged 00:01:20

    Kook says he had been seeing a functional/real MD (not ordering 'Temu peptides') and started a peptide regimen about a month ago as part of a 2026 health push; on Saturday he says he 'created a perfect storm of a smoothie' — cucumber, lime, and avocado with protein powder — where the lime interacted with the protein to create digestive 'sludge,' the peptide caused rapid arterial dilation, the acidic lime simultaneously contracted arteries, and a second set of pushups added rapid exertion, combining into what he describes (per his own Gemini AI query and an MRI) as a stroke and 'massive metabolic crash.'

  • Kook Untagged 00:01:20

    Kook says he got a stat MRI that confirmed no brain hemorrhage, but still felt awful; he frames the story as a PSA: do peptides only under real medical supervision, and lists 'don't do Temu peptides' alongside 'don't use margin' and 'don't use short-term options for your core position' as his running list of things not to do.

  • Kook Untagged 00:01:20

    Kook describes deciding not to call 911 at 3 a.m. because it was the night before his son's birthday and he feared his wife's reaction more than the medical risk; he says his wife later told him he 'made the right call.' He is deferring his pushup routine until he gets medical clearance.

Market Recap — Prior Week's Volatility

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook recaps that the market fell apart initially on broad AI-sentiment weakness, then ASTS rallied when investors connected AI/space-datacenter narratives to the stock, then sold off after Amazon announced a fixed-wireless satellite constellation seen as SpaceX competition, before recovering once the market realized that announcement wasn't relevant competition to ASTS.

  • Kook Untagged 00:01:20

    Kook shares an anecdote about his real estate agent, who owns ASTS and told him he was 'losing like $300,000 a day' during the down days; Kook notes the agent has made more money from ASTS than in his real estate career and simply holds without trading, which Kook cites as validation of a long-term, buy-and-hold approach through volatile weeks.

Fundamentals: Testing, FM1 Status, and FM2/New Glenn 3

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  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook cites 'US testing began' as an exciting fundamental data point from the past week, framing it as further proof that FirstNet spectrum access is progressing, and separately notes 'the international spectrum is a go.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook discusses an amateur/community visual sighting of FM1 (the first Block 2 BlueBird, i.e. BlueBird 6) that looked 'a little hazy'; based on his own satellite-tracking data (drag data that spiked then settled), he believes the satellite has likely unfurled its antenna array, though the company has not announced it.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook lays out three possible explanations for AST not announcing an FM1 unfurl: (1) it hasn't actually unfurled yet; (2) it has unfurled but the company is holding the announcement to package with other news; or (3) it unfurled and the company saw no need to announce since the community (Space Mob) had already tracked it themselves.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook says FM2 (the next Block 2 BlueBird) is 'on deck' for launch on New Glenn 3, and asks listeners to DM him any insights — even hearsay — on New Glenn 3's launch date/status so he can cross-check with other sources.

Company Scaling: Headcount Growth

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  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook highlights community analyst 'Only Six Inches,' who tracks AST SpaceMobile headcount data and found that headcount growth has gone 'parabolic' even in an era of AI-driven efficiency gains; Kook interprets this as the company aggressively moving to capture a large total addressable market (TAM) rather than waiting to validate demand.

Commercial Partnerships: Hyundai/Vodafone and FirstNet

2
  • Kook Confirmed 00:01:20

    Kook credits fellow host Anpanman with surfacing news that Hyundai Motor Group is partnering with Vodafone IoT to deploy connected cars in 5 Middle East countries, which Kook frames as an expansion of a connected-car trend that began (per an earlier discussion) with India mandating connected vehicles — expanding AST SpaceMobile's addressable market via IoT/connected-vehicle use cases.

  • Kook Speculation 00:01:20

    Kook says 'FirstNet is definitely happening,' citing FirstNet officials testifying (a link he included in the show notes) as continued evidence of progress on the FirstNet spectrum opportunity discussed in a prior episode.

Spectrum: Ligado/Viasat Proceeding

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  • Kook Speculation 00:10:35

    Kook describes an adversary-proceeding-adjacent dispute in the Ligado bankruptcy docket where Viasat is 'trying to be annoying,' which he views as proof that the Ligado spectrum access is valuable; he notes the presiding judge does not seem tolerant of parties trying to obstruct the process, and a public notice for Ligado is proceeding, which he expects to lead to further developments supporting AST's future growth.

Spectral Efficiency Breakthrough

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:10:35

    Kook discusses a newly surfaced data point — he believes disclosed in a Vodafone-related document, though he's not fully certain of the source — showing AST SpaceMobile's satellites can achieve spectral efficiency of about 6 bits per hertz, versus prior community assumptions of roughly 2-3 bits/hertz; combined with spectrum reuse multiplying capacity, he says this points to data capacity far higher than previously modeled. He credits community analyst 'Dr. Mike' (a PhD holder) with finding and detailing this in a retweeted post.

  • Kook Speculation 00:10:35

    Kook states his 'first commandment' of Space Mob analysis is that 'spectrum will always flow to the most efficient use,' crediting a community member 'Katsy' for the framing, and ties the new spectral efficiency data to this thesis as reinforcing AST's positioning as the most efficient user of spectrum.

Apple / iPhone Integration

2
  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook notes an FCC filing shows AST SpaceMobile testing with iPhone 17 series phones (a find credited to community member 'Katsy'), and frames this as the 'Apple ASTS story' gaining momentum, contrasting it with prior market reactions where Bloomberg articles about SpaceX-Apple speculation caused ASTS to drop ~10% even though (in his view) SpaceX is merely hoping its system will work with Apple, unlike AST's actual testing relationship.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook describes reporting that Apple's vision for the iPhone 18 and later models is to make satellite connectivity 'natural' — eliminating the need to point the phone at the sky, with future iPhones maintaining satellite connections while in a pocket and seamlessly switching between cellular and satellite networks — which he argues effectively describes AST SpaceMobile's technology without naming the company.

Media Coverage: Forbes Comparison

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook cites a Forbes article comparing SpaceX and AST SpaceMobile that states AST SpaceMobile 'is developing much more sophisticated satellites, with massive phased array antennas to compensate for the limited power antennas of today's phones,' quoting an unnamed 'Professor Freya' saying 'what will work best remains to be seen.' Kook views this open-ended framing as evidence the market hasn't yet priced in AST's advantage, supporting his belief the stock still has room to run toward $100.

MNO Relationship Deepening (Vodafone)

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  • Kook Company Guidance 00:26:12

    Kook cites a Vodafone statement that its 'technology team has been working tirelessly on multiple fronts and preparing for commercial launch of the service,' and references a find by community member 'Rocket Tank123' from a Vodafone filing with the UK Scottish Affairs Committee showing the depth of the Vodafone-AST partnership, plus a separate Anpanman find on Vodafone's key technology achievements.

Government/Defense: Michael Pollack at SatShow

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook notes that Michael Pollack, AST SpaceMobile's EVP of Government Operations, is scheduled to speak at 'SatShow 2026'; he says an unnamed, experienced (possibly retired) source told him to watch SatShow, which he views as fitting given AST's ramp-up of its government/defense business.

Competitive Landscape: Elon Musk / SpaceX

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook says Elon Musk revived talk of a SpaceX-branded phone, framing it in terms of reaching an advanced ('Kardashev-level') civilization, and notes Apple has reportedly declined to give SpaceX/Globalstar additional spectrum, prompting Musk to respond combatively; Kook says Musk's denials of the phone plan actually increase his confidence that a SpaceX phone effort is real, calling it consistent with Musk's direct-to-consumer business style.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook speculates Musk may be shifting focus toward a proposed AI-data-center-in-space concept — citing up to 1 million satellites intended to power AI/robotics — which Kook thinks could serve as a strategic 'off-ramp' from the direct-to-device market where Musk may have 'mispositioned' relative to AST SpaceMobile; he also notes the SpaceX IPO ('the X ticker') is proceeding.

Abel Avellan Patent Reference

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook references a patent find by community member 'Tom Chattafitness' (aka 'Timmy Turbo') showing that AST SpaceMobile CEO Abel Avellan had data-center-related concepts reflected in AST patents from years ago, which Kook cites as evidence Avellan anticipated this space/AI-datacenter direction as well.

Regulatory: SpaceX Legal Opposition and SCS Approval Timeline

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook says SpaceX has filed last-minute legal opposition ('lawfare') against AST SpaceMobile in an ongoing regulatory docket, that the docket is progressing, and that his own guess is full SCS/FCC approval could come within roughly the next month; he says community member @justbar is monitoring the FCC dockets and will be the one to break the news when approval happens.

Investing Caution: Leveraged ETFs and Market Conditions

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook attributes recent market turmoil partly to a 'readjustment period' tied to Fed-related dynamics (referencing 'Warsh') and seasonal factors, noting this volatility tends to make people bearish near local bottoms.

  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook warns against a newly available double-leveraged ASTS ETF, explaining that leveraged products suffer significant theta/tracking-error decay in a choppy, non-directional stock and are only favorable if the stock moves in one direction continuously; he reiterates that shorting ASTS is inadvisable and that investors should avoid leveraged vehicles unless they fully understand the mechanics.

Closing: $100 Price Target and Community Message

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  • Kook Speculation 00:26:12

    Kook closes by restating his belief that AST SpaceMobile is heading toward a $100 stock price, framing the remaining risks/uncertainties as things that, once resolved, should push the stock higher, and urges the community to keep researching, stay disciplined, and remain grateful rather than 'jinxing' the outcome. He says he will host the next session on Sunday, earlier than usual due to being on the East Coast.

Watch Items4

  • FM2 (second Block 2 BlueBird) launch on New Glenn 3

    On deck / upcoming, exact date unconfirmed — Kook is soliciting community tips on New Glenn 3 status Kook 00:01:20
  • Full SCS/FCC license-modification approval

    Kook's own guess: possibly within about the next month Kook 00:26:12
  • Michael Pollack (EVP Government Operations) speaking appearance at SatShow 2026

    SatShow 2026 (specific date not given) Kook 00:26:12
  • Next Kook's Weekly episode

    Sunday (earlier time slot, East Coast) Kook 00:26:12

Open Questions3

  • Has FM1 (BlueBird 6) actually unfurled its antenna array, and if so, why hasn't AST SpaceMobile officially announced it?

    Kook 00:01:20
  • What is the actual launch date/status of New Glenn 3, the vehicle expected to carry FM2?

    Kook 00:01:20
  • Is Elon Musk's talk of a SpaceX-branded phone a genuine product plan or a negotiating/rhetorical tactic, and will Musk pursue an AI-data-center-in-space strategy instead of competing directly in direct-to-device?

    Kook 00:26:12
2026-02-06 58:25

Anpanman - Market Liquidations, VIX Rules, and the SpaceMobile Connectivity Shift

Anpanman

In a late-night solo episode, Anpanman walks through the after-hours market liquidations and margin calls hitting stocks and crypto, using his own history through prior crypto and AST drawdowns to argue this is normal de-risking, not a thesis-breaking event.

AST SpaceMobile whipsawed from $93 to roughly $86 before settling near $90, and Bitcoin cut roughly in half from a ~$126,000 high to ~$64,000.

He shares macro frameworks: a VIX-based rule for when to get aggressive, skepticism of the AI-software panic, and real-time inflation data running cooler than the Fed. He also gives detailed portfolio/risk-management advice: avoid margin, use call spreads instead, have a pre-set profit-taking plan.

He closes bullish on AST SpaceMobile specifically, framing the upcoming SpaceX IPO, Apple's iPhone spectrum testing, and a possible AT&T EchoStar 600 MHz spectrum unlock as underappreciated catalysts. He argues the stock's fundamentals have vastly improved even though its price is currently volatile.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile stock closed at $93 before after-hours forced liquidations and margin calls pushed it down to roughly $86, stabilizing around $90 overnight; Anpanman expected further margin-call-driven selling pressure into the next morning's open.
  • Bitcoin fell from an all-time high of roughly $126,000 to about $64,000, a decline of nearly half, which Anpanman attributes to broad market deleveraging and forced liquidation of overleveraged crypto positions rather than anything specific to crypto's fundamentals.
  • Anpanman argues AI panic is unfairly punishing software companies (FactSet, S&P, Moody's, and Morningstar sold off after an AI firm he believes was Anthropic announced a model that can generate comprehensive research reports) while sparing 'hard physical industries' like space and energy, since AI cannot build or launch multi-ton satellites.
  • Anpanman's personal rule of thumb for capital allocation: get aggressive buying when the VIX rises above 50 (a sign of extreme fear), and go 'all in' only when VIX exceeds 70-80 — a level he says he has seen only twice in his career, during COVID (VIX ~84) and the 2008 financial crisis (VIX ~90).
  • He strongly warns against using margin, recalling AST investors who kept averaging down on margin during the stock's decline to $2 and were wiped out near $4, versus unleveraged holders who survived; he recommends options like call spreads instead of margin for tactical leverage.
  • Real-time inflation tracker Truflation is showing year-over-year inflation near or under 1%, which Anpanman says runs 1-3 months ahead of official Fed data and supports the case for further rate cuts, contrasting with a Fed governor's public comments that inflation remains 'stubborn.'
  • Anpanman disclosed a personal trade: around $50 per share in November (implied 2025), he sold roughly 2,000-3,000 AST shares and used the proceeds to buy January call spreads, which he says made him approximately $2-3 million when the stock rebounded to around $90.
  • He credits taking some profit near AST's high $20s (before the 2024 drawdown) with letting him weather the stock's later fall from about $39 in August 2024 to $18 without emotional distress, unlike other investors who felt 'absolute dejection'; he advises always having a pre-set profit-taking plan.
  • Anpanman is bullish heading into the anticipated SpaceX IPO, arguing the resulting attention will bring underappreciated upside to the direct-to-device sector, similar to how Verizon's 2024 MOU ($100 million investment plus contribution of 850 MHz spectrum) was an unpriced catalyst that opened the door to broader military interest in AST.
  • He highlighted Apple's iPhone 17 testing on the 700/800 MHz bands used by AST's partners AT&T and Verizon (as well as 600 MHz and T-Mobile's 1.9 GHz band used by Starlink), and speculated that AT&T's pending acquisition of EchoStar's unused nationwide 20x20 MHz 600 MHz spectrum block could be a 'game changer' if AT&T dedicates it to AST service.
  • Anpanman put AST's volatility in context: when Bitcoin was last near $60,000 (September 2024), AST traded around $24; now, with Bitcoin similarly near $65,000 after a major deleveraging, AST trades in the $90s, which he says reflects substantial fundamental progress despite the recent pullback.

Detailed Discussion6 topics

Market Liquidations, Margin Calls, and AST's After-Hours Price Action

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    AST closed regular trading at $93 before after-hours forced liquidations/margin-call selling pushed shares down to roughly $86, before stabilizing to around $90 overnight; he expected additional margin-call-driven selling into the next morning's open and possibly at the open itself.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He described the broad wave of after-hours liquidations across markets as 'the system working' — forced selling by over-leveraged investors receiving margin calls from brokers, characterizing it as a natural, painful, but normal part of market de-risking cycles, not something to 'freak out about.'

Crypto Cycle Reflections: Bitcoin's Pullback and Personal History

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Bitcoin's recent top was roughly $126,000 and it has since fallen to about $64,000 — roughly cut in half — which he says is catching new/institutional investors who believed 'this time is different' off guard, though it's typical for long-time crypto holders.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He noted that historically, drawdowns from Bitcoin all-time highs have run somewhere between 80% and 90%.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He recounted his own crypto history: bought his first Bitcoin around $11,000 and kept buying down through $9,000, $6,000, and a large slug at $3,000 during 'crypto winter,' ultimately holding roughly 45 BTC and roughly 200-300 ETH; he sold about two-thirds of his Bitcoin around $64,000 and the remainder around $55,000-56,000, after which he moved into SPAC investing.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He speculated (explicitly uncertain) that Bitcoin could fall further to $30,000-40,000, or could eventually retest its $126,000-128,000 high — 'who knows' — but said he would only buy a small amount at lower levels since crypto is not an asset he wants to hold in size.

AI Panic and the Software Sector Selloff

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He flagged the 'paradox' that software companies seen as AI-disruption targets (FactSet, S&P, Moody's, Morningstar) sold off sharply the same day, which he attributed — with some uncertainty ('I guess it was...') — to Anthropic announcing a new model able to produce a comprehensive research report that would otherwise take a human analyst days.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He argued AI-generated research reports are useful 'primers' but feel flat and lack human judgment, and that his own manual process of building financial models in a spreadsheet (citing his work on T1 Energy's equity offering, convertible notes, and 45X tax credit sale proceeds) is what actually helps him learn and understand a company, versus just reading an AI-generated summary.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He believes markets have swung too far in pricing in software's destruction by AI, drawing an analogy to the overreaction around April tariffs, which he said ultimately did not damage the economy as feared (with SPY recovering from below $500 to around $677) and in some respects helped by forcing manufacturing reshoring (citing new US semiconductor fabs and his T1 Energy solar investment).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He argued investors worried about AI disruption should favor 'hard physical industries' like energy and space, since AI cannot build or launch multi-ton satellites (though it could help operate them), also citing his investment in Strata Critical (a medical logistics/organ-transplant company) as similarly AI-resistant.

Macro Indicators: VIX, the Fed, and Inflation

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    The VIX closed up about 17% at 21 on the day being discussed, and he said it could still go higher, to 30, 35, or 40.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    His personal rule of thumb, learned across the 2008 financial crisis, the US credit downgrade, COVID, and the April tariff tantrum: get aggressive allocating capital once VIX rises above 50 (extreme fear), and go 'all in' once VIX exceeds 70-80 — a threshold he says he's only seen twice in his career, hitting roughly 84 during COVID and roughly 90 during the 2008 financial crisis.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    On new Fed chair prospect Kevin Warsh (whom he described as hawkish), he speculated that despite the hawkish reputation, Warsh — viewing this as his 'last chance' — would likely align closely with Trump, including on cutting/accommodative policy, and that a hawkish background gives him useful cover to justify cuts.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Real-time inflation tracker Truflation showed year-over-year inflation dipping under 1% recently and back to roughly 1% at time of recording; he said Truflation data runs roughly 1-3 months ahead of official Fed data, contrasting this with a Fed governor's comments that inflation remains 'stubborn,' and cited a reversal/selloff in precious metals (which he'd previously flagged as an inflation concern) as additional evidence of disinflation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    He flagged potential US conflict with Iran as a real exogenous market risk, but speculated markets could handle it 'okay' if the outcome were conventional/contained regime change without nuclear escalation (drawing a comparison to a 'Venezuela type' outcome), noting historically wars have often been economically positive.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He described the market's factor rotation: high-beta growth/momentum/revisions names selling off heavily while capital rotates into defensive sectors (dividends, consumer staples), even as the S&P 500 remained relatively close to its highs.

Portfolio and Risk Management: Margin, Options, and Trade Examples

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    He recalled AST's earlier 'death march' down to $2, during which investors on margin kept averaging down (buying at $10, $8, $7, $6, $5) and got wiped out around $4, whereas investors who held a fixed share count without margin survived and ultimately benefited from the recovery.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He explained the risk of selling cash-secured puts in high-volatility periods: even if the underlying stock doesn't move, a spike in implied volatility can sharply inflate the value of an already-sold put (e.g., a put sold for $1 could become worth $3), and if the stock does fall sharply and the put goes in the money, the investor may be forced to take delivery of a stock that fell for a genuinely bad reason (e.g., a failed drug trial in biotech).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He similarly cautioned against covered calls, arguing sellers cap their upside while retaining full downside exposure, and that selling a call against a long stock position is economically equivalent to shorting an in-the-money synthetic put; he said modest covered-call income on a small position portion can make sense but sellers often have a false sense of security about the risk.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He does not think the ongoing deleveraging will push VIX to 40-50, estimating it might reach around 30 (versus roughly 22 at time of discussion), and characterized the liquidations so far as 'somewhat orderly' and across the board.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He warned against anchoring to a stock's prior high (e.g., investors who saw AST hit $130 and refuse to sell any shares on margin because they expect it to return there) as a reason to neglect margin balances, which can force forced selling if the stock later falls (e.g., to $70).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He recommended using pullbacks to 'upgrade' a portfolio — consolidating lower-conviction, less-understood positions into higher-conviction ones — when everything is trading down together at a correlation near 1, since marginal/speculative positions are typically the ones that get cut and can cause the most damage in a downturn.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    As an alternative to margin, he described selling some stock to buy call spreads (e.g., buying a call roughly 10% out of the money and shorting a call roughly 40% out of the money) to add leverage more cheaply during high-volatility periods, since a market rebound would compress volatility and let the short call be bought back cheaply.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:25:32

    He disclosed a personal trade: when AST fell to $50 in November (implied 2025), he sold roughly 2,000-3,000 shares and used part of the proceeds to buy January call spreads, which he said ultimately made him approximately $2-3 million when he closed the position with the stock around $90.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:43

    He advised setting a pre-planned profit-taking strategy — selling a portion of a position after it multiplies one's net worth by a chosen target, and setting aside money for taxes — so that subsequent drawdowns don't cause emotional distress; he said he repeatedly tells Kook to do this but Kook doesn't listen.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:39:43

    He recounted that when he exercised his AST warrants, he sold enough shares to cover taxes, pay off his mortgage, and buy a car, using leftover cash to invest in T1 Energy and in Satisfye (where roughly $47,000 of warrants grew to about $1.8 million).

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:39:43

    Because he had taken some profit near AST's high $20s before its 2024 drawdown, the stock's later fall from about $39 (which he recalled as around August 2024) to $18 didn't affect him emotionally, unlike other investors who felt 'absolute dejection' at not having sold near the top.

AST SpaceMobile: Volatility in Context, SpaceX IPO, Apple Testing, and Spectrum

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:39:43

    Despite AST trading down to $91-92 intraday and hitting $87 after hours, he said he isn't emotionally affected given his long-term conviction, citing upcoming catalysts, the company being 'on the cusp' of launching commercial service, ongoing defense work, and the administration's focus on space.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He compared AST's price to Bitcoin's over time: in September 2024, when Bitcoin was near $60,000, AST traded around $24; now, with Bitcoin similarly near $65,000 after major deleveraging, AST trades in the $90s (down from a $130 high), which he says reflects substantial fundamental progress despite the recent pullback.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:45:59

    He recalled Verizon's 2024 MOU — including a $100 million investment and contribution of 850 MHz spectrum — as a surprise 'gotcha moment' nobody had priced in, since he'd assumed AT&T had US exclusivity; he said this catalyzed broader military interest in the company.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He is bullish heading into the anticipated SpaceX IPO, arguing that beyond the rational sizing of the comms, military, and data-center opportunity, the resulting attention and 'euphoria' will surprise to the upside for the direct-to-device sector broadly.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:45:59

    He highlighted that Apple has been testing iPhone 17 hardware on the 700/800 MHz bands used by AT&T and Verizon (AST's frequencies), as well as a 600 MHz test and T-Mobile's 1.9 GHz band used by Starlink, tying this to an October report from The Information (which he believes was leaked by SpaceX) alleging SpaceX was secretly working with Apple to test Starlink phone service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He speculated that AT&T's pending acquisition of EchoStar's nationwide, unused 20 MHz x 20 MHz block of 600 MHz spectrum could be a 'game changer' if AT&T dedicates it to AST service, and that Verizon might then follow suit and dedicate spectrum for AST as well.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He suggested Apple should consider making a strategic investment in AST SpaceMobile to control its own connectivity 'destiny' as SpaceX/Starlink increasingly moves toward offering its own phone hardware and mobile service.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:45:59

    He referenced reports citing '3 sources familiar with the matter' that Elon Musk/SpaceX is working on a mobile phone and mobile service, which Musk had hinted at publicly before walking the comments back the same day, which Anpanman attributed to pushback from SpaceX's own MNO-partnership team.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He speculated SpaceX could ultimately build its own phone operating system, drawing an analogy to how Elon Musk built xAI from scratch and noting Musk's pattern of not relying on others' technology across his companies.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:45:59

    He noted the broader space sector, along with next-generation nuclear, critical minerals, data centers, and quantum computing names, was 'heavily red' across the board during this deleveraging, with AST being one of the few relative outperformers on his watchlist.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:45:59

    He reiterated his view that AI will not disrupt the space sector or hard physical manufacturing (satellites, microns, processors, solar panels, radiation hardening) the way it may disrupt software, and that AI itself will ultimately be a consumer of AST's communications services and of data-center capacity.

Watch Items4

  • Continued margin-call-driven volatility and a potentially rough market open

    next trading morning Anpanman 00:00:28
  • SpaceX IPO and its expected effect on attention/valuation for the direct-to-device sector, including AST SpaceMobile

    not specified — anticipated but no firm date given Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Potential US conflict with Iran as a market risk factor

    'next few weeks' Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Whether VIX rises further toward 30 (or beyond) as deleveraging continues

    near-term, possibly within a day per Anpanman Anpanman 00:25:32

Open Questions5

  • Will VIX climb further (toward 30, 40, or 50+), and does that mean deeper market stress is still ahead or has the worst of this deleveraging already passed?

    Anpanman 00:25:32
  • Will AT&T actually dedicate its newly acquired 20x20 MHz block of EchoStar's 600 MHz spectrum to AST SpaceMobile's service, and would Verizon follow suit?

    Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Is SpaceX actually building a competing mobile phone and/or operating system and mobile service, and how would that affect its existing MNO partnerships and AST's competitive position?

    Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Will Apple make a strategic investment in AST SpaceMobile to secure its connectivity roadmap against SpaceX/Starlink?

    Anpanman 00:45:59
  • Will incoming Fed chair prospect Kevin Warsh actually pursue rate cuts despite his hawkish reputation?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
2026-02-05 46:17

Anpanman - The Apple Alpha: FCC Filings and the SpaceX Threat

Anpanman

In this solo episode, Anpanman explains that a broad crypto-driven risk-off sell-off (Bitcoin breaking below $70,000, Ethereum near $2,000) is dragging down AST SpaceMobile's stock along with the rest of the market, unrelated to company fundamentals.

The core content covers newly surfaced FCC filings (dated August 15, 2025) showing Apple testing iPhone hardware on the 700/800 MHz and PCS G block bands. That is spectrum only AST SpaceMobile can service among satellite operators. The episode also covers a Reuters report that SpaceX may build its own phone and satellite service.

Anpanman's headline conclusion: Apple's testing pattern plus SpaceX's vertical-integration ambitions both point toward AST SpaceMobile becoming the indispensable, neutral satellite partner for Apple, Google, Samsung, and the world's MNOs, both for direct-to-device connectivity and a longer-term space-based data center opportunity.

Key Takeaways

  • FCC filings dated August 15, 2025, surfaced by an X user Anpanman calls 'Katsy,' show Apple testing iPhone hardware for satellite/supplemental coverage from space on the 600 MHz, 700 MHz, 800 MHz, and PCS G block (1.9 GHz) cellular bands.
  • AST SpaceMobile is the only broadband satellite operator with spectrum access in the 700 MHz and 800 MHz bands, obtained via its AT&T, Verizon, and FirstNet partnerships, which Anpanman argues makes it the only operator capable of the seamless, indoor-capable satellite coverage Apple is reportedly targeting for iPhone 18.
  • Reuters reported that SpaceX/Elon Musk may be developing its own phone and satellite service; Anpanman argues this vertically integrated stack (hardware, OS, and connectivity) is an existential competitive threat to Apple, Google, Samsung, and T-Mobile, and would make AST SpaceMobile more strategically valuable as the neutral alternative partner.
  • Anpanman contends AST's architecture can beam down geographically fixed cells using low-band spectrum without interfering with existing terrestrial cell towers, unlike Starlink's higher-power, moving-beam architecture, which he says causes interference and cannot be deployed near carriers' existing spectrum.
  • Anpanman attributes the day's sell-off in ASTS to a market-wide, crypto-driven liquidation/de-grossing event rather than to any AST-specific news, and pushed back on an X user who claimed the Apple/SpaceX news would hurt the stock.
  • Anpanman flags that a New Glenn 3 launch of Block 2 BlueBird satellites is expected around the last week of February or could slip to the first week of March 2026 due to Cape Canaveral traffic from an Artemis mission and a Falcon 9 crew launch, and that FCC approval of AST's US commercial service application is described as imminent.
  • Anpanman raises the possibility that AST SpaceMobile's multi-ton, high-power satellites with onboard processing could eventually be repurposed for space-based data centers, a concept he ties to a recent Elon Musk claim that orbital data centers could reach parity with terrestrial ones within three years (which Anpanman calls very optimistic).

Detailed Discussion6 topics

Market Volatility and Crypto-Driven Risk-Off

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    A volatile morning of crypto liquidations is underway, with Bitcoin breaking below $70,000 and Ethereum potentially falling under $2,000; this reflects mass deleveraging by retail and institutional holders with cross-holdings in both crypto and high-beta stocks, which typically spills into other risk assets.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    The prior day saw momentum/growth and other high-beta or 'winning' sectors sell off hard versus value, dividend-yield, and consumer-staples names; Anpanman frames this as healthy consolidation after a strong start to the year, not something out of the ordinary.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Crypto's gains since Donald Trump won the presidency have now been completely wiped out, putting crypto around a 50% drawdown from highs; Anpanman notes 80-90% drawdowns are historically 'a feature, not a bug' for crypto and says he personally might start considering re-entering at a 60-70% drawdown, focused on blue chips like Bitcoin or Ethereum.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    An X user replied to Anpanman's post suggesting ASTS would go down because of the Apple/SpaceX news; Anpanman disagrees, stating the entire market is down due to crypto-driven risk liquidations and institutional de-grossing, not because of anything specific to this news.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Risk management advice: do not use margin during periods of high volatility; if using margin, do so judiciously with tight risk limits, and ask whether you could survive another 10-30% drawdown — if not, get off margin.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Compares the current drawdown to the April tariff scare, which in hindsight was a major buying opportunity rather than a lasting problem; cites Kook's comment during a weekend X Space that prior volatility events (COVID, the tariff scare, the 2011 US credit downgrade) all look like 'blips' in hindsight.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Notes current stock-price framing: 'if you liked it at $120, you'll love it at $98,' implying the stock has recently declined from around $120 to around $98.

Apple FCC Filings and Satellite Testing

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    FCC filings uncovered by an X user Anpanman refers to as 'Katsy' show Apple testing its phones for supplemental coverage from space across the 600 MHz, 700 MHz, and 800 MHz bands, plus the PCS G block; the filings themselves are dated August 15, 2025, though only surfaced publicly around the episode's recording.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Only one broadband satellite operator has spectrum presence in the 700 MHz and 800 MHz bands: AST SpaceMobile, via its partnerships with AT&T, Verizon, and FirstNet.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Recalls that roughly mid-2025 (around Q3 or over the summer), news leaked that Apple and Starlink were testing together, causing ASTS to drop 10-15% on FUD pushed by Musk-aligned accounts; Anpanman argues this was expected/unremarkable since Apple routinely tests its devices with every satellite service an MNO (in that case T-Mobile with Starlink) wants to use.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Separately, AST and Anpanman's community also found filings showing Apple testing with AST SpaceMobile in the context of setting NTN (non-terrestrial network) standards.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Spectrum band ownership context: 600 MHz (low-band) is primarily T-Mobile's, acquired via the Sprint merger and a spectrum auction; 700 MHz and 800 MHz are primarily AT&T and Verizon; the PCS G block (1.9 GHz, mid-band) is the spectrum Starlink currently uses to serve T-Mobile phones.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    Responding to a Globalstar investor's counterargument that Globalstar is the only satellite operator with an actual Apple investment (Apple owns 85% of capacity in Globalstar's SBB joint venture, into which Globalstar contributed spectrum and constellation), Anpanman notes this particular FCC filing contains no Globalstar spectrum (L-band and S-band, around 2.4 GHz) — meaning this specific iPhone 17 testing filing points only to AST SpaceMobile and Starlink spectrum, not Globalstar.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:28

    Citing an Apple-focused news site, Anpanman says Apple reportedly plans for iPhone 18 to work seamlessly with satellite connectivity — unlike Globalstar's current service, which requires the user to go outside and keep the phone pointed at the satellite — with the goal that users won't notice switching between the terrestrial network and satellite.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Argues that truly seamless, in-pocket, indoor-capable satellite service is only physically achievable using low-band cellular spectrum, and that AST SpaceMobile is the only provider positioned to deliver that — not Globalstar, not Starlink.

Spectrum Physics: Low-Band vs. Mid-Band, Fixed Cells vs. Moving Beams

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Low-band cellular spectrum (roughly 600-900 MHz, primarily 800 MHz) propagates through multiple walls, which is why AT&T/Verizon service tends to work indoors, in cars, and even in NYC subways — this is the reason carriers value having a large trove of low-band spectrum.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Describes carrier spectrum strategy as a 'layered cake': low-band for broad coverage, mid-band for capacity, and high-band (5G) for very high speed but requiring line-of-sight/unobstructed conditions.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    T-Mobile historically had no low-band spectrum and poor indoor coverage in the 1990s-2000s as a mid-band-only carrier, until it gained low-band spectrum through the Sprint merger and a 600 MHz spectrum auction.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Starlink satellites are architected to work only with mid-band spectrum due to phased-array antenna element spacing and wavelength physics; the same satellites cannot be reconfigured to light up 600 MHz spectrum — an entirely new satellite would be required to serve low-band frequencies.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:28

    AST's Block 1 and Block 2 satellites are low-band focused, covering roughly 600-900 MHz; the upcoming Block 3 satellites (the company's next constellation) will have more closely spaced antenna elements enabling mid-band spectrum coverage from about 1.5 GHz up to roughly 2.4-2.5 GHz, allowing use of acquired/partnered S-band and Ligado spectrum.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Starlink has only been allocated a 5x5 MHz channel at 1.9 GHz in the US.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    AST's fixed-cell beamforming lets satellites project stationary hexagonal coverage cells on the ground even as the satellite moves, allowing precise, pinpoint coverage of gaps (e.g., an example area between the Hamptons and New York City) without interfering with already-covered areas like NYC's existing terrestrial network — this is what lets carriers reuse their own cellular spectrum via AST and even decommission underused towers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Starlink's beams move with the satellite and operate at much higher power, which Anpanman says causes interference; as a result, no MNO wants Starlink operating near their cellular spectrum, since it would degrade the carrier's own terrestrial service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Estimates each AST low-band satellite can generate around 2,500 fixed cells, while Block 3 mid-band satellites will be able to generate around 10,000 fixed cells per satellite.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:28

    Notes Starlink acquired EchoStar's MSS spectrum as part of its mid-band strategy, aiming for dedicated nationwide coverage bands analogous to how AST is pursuing nationwide coverage via its Ligado spectrum deal.

SpaceX Phone and Service: Competitive Threat

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  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:28

    A Reuters report — from an outlet Anpanman says has had a 'somewhat checkered' recent accuracy record but which he believes is accurate here — indicates SpaceX is looking to eventually introduce its own phone and its own satellite service.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Compares the implications to 'Avengers Endgame,' arguing Apple, Google, Samsung, and every global MNO 'should be shaking in your boots' because Elon Musk is coming after their core businesses; says AST SpaceMobile's strategic value 'shot up' with this news, though not yet reflected in the market given the broader risk-off day.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Predicts a SpaceX phone would run Musk's own operating system rather than Apple's or Google's ecosystem, consistent with his broader AI ambitions — part of a deliberate Musk 'vertical stack' spanning hardware, OS, and connectivity.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    A SpaceX phone would primarily rely on mid-band Starlink Direct-to-Cell spectrum, which Anpanman calls architecturally flawed: it can't support voice over LTE (must use VoIP) because satellite handoffs occur every 2-3 minutes, making voice calls choppy; indoor use would also be poor, potentially requiring a separate Starlink fixed-wireless router/Wi-Fi setup at home.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Expects the service to be pretty bad in dense, high-user areas but decent for data in suburban or remote areas.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Predicts T-Mobile could ultimately be forced into an MVNO-style roaming agreement with SpaceX/Starlink (similar to Boost Mobile or Mint Mobile arrangements), since having introduced the Starlink brand to its customers already, T-Mobile risks losing subscribers to a SpaceX-branded phone and service unless it partners and collects roaming fees.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Frames the dynamic as a 'prisoner's dilemma' among MNOs: whichever carrier partners with SpaceX risks having its subscriber base hollowed out, but may get hollowed out regardless if it doesn't partner.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:28

    Argues this is also a major competitive threat to Apple (iPhone-driven growth/profitability), Google (Android ecosystem), and Samsung; says the probability of Apple and Starlink working closely together is now 'probably zero,' beyond the minimum device-certification testing required, because Apple won't help a company that is itself entering the phone-hardware business compete against it.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Concludes that AST SpaceMobile becomes the critical neutral strategic partner — outside the SpaceX/Tesla/xAI ecosystem — for Apple, Google, Samsung, and the ~50 MNOs globally that AST partners with, both for direct-to-device communications and, longer term, for data centers.

Data Centers in Space

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Describes AST SpaceMobile as the only non-legacy-prime company building multi-ton (4-6 ton) satellites capable of generating around 100 kilowatts of power with onboard processing — effectively already performing data-center-like functions today, but for communications.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Notes AST holds roughly 3,800 patents that could be leveraged, along with re-architected satellites and different onboard processors, to pivot toward building actual space-based data centers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    References an Elon Musk tweet or interview from that morning claiming space-based data centers could reach parity with terrestrial data centers within 3 years; Anpanman calls this 'very optimistic' but agrees directionally that space-based computing is where things are headed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Argues AST becomes central to a coming 'battle for space-based computing and communication' against the SpaceX/Musk ecosystem, given AST's existing relationships with Apple, Google, AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone, Orange, and Telefonica — companies that also run fiber, data-center, and hosting businesses of their own.

Company Catalysts and Investment Framing

4
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Reiterates that AST is 'ramping up to production of 12 satellites a month,' and speculates that once constellation buildout no longer requires that production rate, the company will need a new use for that capacity — implicitly, data centers.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    Recalls that when AST's stock was around $2 (before the AT&T and Verizon commercial agreements were signed), signing those deals triggered a wave of interest from the Space Development Agency, the Department of Defense, and other military-related parties who began calling the company — referencing a presentation given by Michael Pollack as the source of this history.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:28

    Speculates that a hypothetical future announcement of Apple working closely with AST, or investing (he floats a hypothetical figure of 'a billion dollars') alongside Google's existing investment, would be 'game-changing' for the stock, though he doesn't know if or when this might happen — possibly weeks or months out.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:28

    States the company does not use the press to leak information the way SpaceX does with 'trial balloons'; AST is tight-lipped and 'just executes,' disclosing developments (including any Apple relationship) only when appropriate.

Watch Items3

  • New Glenn 3 launch of Block 2 BlueBird satellites

    Expected last week of February 2026, with possible slip into the first week of March 2026 due to Cape Canaveral traffic from an Artemis mission and a Falcon 9 crew launch Anpanman 00:00:28
  • FCC approval of AST SpaceMobile's application for US commercial service

    Described as imminent, could happen 'anytime' Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Possible announcement of a formal Apple partnership with or investment in AST SpaceMobile

    Uncertain — speculatively 'weeks or months' out, not confirmed Anpanman 00:00:28

Open Questions4

  • Will Apple's satellite testing with AST SpaceMobile be publicly disclosed, and if so, when?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Will Apple eventually formalize a strategic partnership with or investment in AST SpaceMobile, similar to Google's existing investment?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Will SpaceX actually launch its own phone and service, and if so, will T-Mobile end up forced into an MVNO/roaming agreement with Starlink as a result?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
  • Has SpaceX developed MIMO capability or a plan to serve multiple satellites per cell for its mid-band Direct-to-Cell service, given the capacity limitations Anpanman describes?

    Anpanman 00:00:28
2026-02-04 53:01

Anpanman - Conviction Over Chaos: Navigating the Space Sector Pullback

Anpanman

In this solo X Spaces episode (published 2026-02-04), Anpanman addresses a broad pullback across space, nuclear, and battery growth stocks. He argues it's healthy sector-wide de-risking and hedge-fund de-grossing rather than anything company-specific to AST SpaceMobile.

He explicitly rejects the idea that AT&T's new Amazon Leo fixed-wireless partnership is driving ASTS down. He walks through pod-shop/multi-strategy hedge fund risk mechanics (leverage, drawdown limits, de-grossing) to explain why retail investors without margin have an edge in volatile days.

He details his own trades and 'know what you own' portfolio-consolidation philosophy. He closes with macro views — a dovish new Fed chair expected, skepticism of Jim Chanos's space-data-center bear thesis — plus a Cape Canaveral launch-pad congestion update affecting the next BlueBird shipment.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman attributes the February 2026 pullback in ASTS and peer high-growth names (space, next-gen nuclear, batteries) to sector-wide 'beta' and institutional de-grossing/de-risking, not to company-specific problems, noting ASTS was down about 13% versus peers down roughly 11-18% the same day.
  • Anpanman explicitly says AT&T's newly announced partnership with Amazon Leo for enterprise fixed-wireless connectivity is a different market from AST SpaceMobile's direct-to-cell business and dismisses the idea that this news caused ASTS's stock decline that day.
  • Anpanman explains that hedge fund 'pod shops' running 2-3x leverage under tight drawdown limits are forced to 'de-gross' (cover shorts, sell longs) during volatility, which pulls liquidity from the market and produces the outsized price swings retail investors observe.
  • Anpanman's investing philosophy is to 'know what you own': high-conviction positions should be held or added to during drawdowns, while low-conviction/speculative positions are the ones investors panic-sell, and volatile days are a chance to consolidate low-conviction names into high-conviction ones.
  • Anpanman disclosed his own trading that day: adding to AST SpaceMobile (stock and calls) and T1 Energy, small additions to Bridger, Strata Critical, Velo, and Kraken, and selling a small 'Power Bank' position to consolidate into ASTS.
  • Anpanman says he typically trades only about 2-3% (up to a max of ~5%) of his portfolio around a core buy-and-hold position, does not use margin (partly because E-Trade restricts margin on ASTS and T1 Energy), and is not touching over 90% of his core, low-cost-basis AST SpaceMobile position.
  • Anpanman rejects Jim Chanos's argument that space-based data centers would eliminate the terminal value of terrestrial data centers, saying the cost per kilogram to orbit needs to fall significantly before space data centers are competitive, and that AI demand should support growth in both Earth-based and orbital compute.
  • Anpanman expects Cape Canaveral launch-pad congestion (Artemis activity, a Crew Dragon Falcon 9 launch, construction, and a Falcon 9 anomaly investigation) to delay AST SpaceMobile's next satellite shipment until the launch providers are ready to receive and process it, with the near-term launch (Blue Origin New Glenn 3 with FM-2) expected no earlier than the end of February 2026.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

Market pullback context and sector-wide beta

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Opens by framing the day's volatility as an expected pullback that had been consensus among institutions for February, noting that the sectors he invests in (space, nuclear, batteries) are up substantially this year and last year, so pullbacks are natural.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Notes Bitcoin selling off to $73,000, which is lower than when Trump entered the presidency, and says he hasn't owned Bitcoin in a long time (sold his prior position around $64,000 with an average cost basis of about $5,000); says crypto weakness is bad for risk assets broadly because correlated investors sell winners to cover losses elsewhere.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Cites specific same-day declines across the sector to argue the move is broad-based, not company-specific: T1 Energy down 17.5%, EOS (batteries) down 17.5%, Rocket Lab down 14%, Redwire down 13%, Planet Labs down 13%, Intuitive Machines down 17%, Karman down 15%, and defense name Kratos down 15%.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says concern about a potential conflict in Iran contributed to weak headlines earlier in the day, but argues the bigger driver of the pullback was worry sparked by Anthropic's new software tools and fears that AI could disrupt the software industry, noting the software ETF was nearing its April 2025 tariff-scare lows.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Notes quantum names also fell (IonQ down 11.5%, Rigetti down 10%) and AI/data-center-adjacent names were hit hard (Cipher down 19%, IREN down 17%, MARA down 11%, NBIS down 12%), plus AMD down roughly 16.5-17% despite beating and raising guidance, and Palantir down 13.4% and Robinhood down 10%, to show the decline was market-wide, not sector-specific.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Cites Bloomberg factor data for the day: value up ~2%, dividend-yield stocks up 1.8%, buyback companies up 1.6%, while momentum was down 4.5%, growth down 2.5%, and 3-month-EPS-revision names down 2.2% — evidence of broad factor rotation rather than an ASTS-specific issue.

AT&T / Amazon Leo news and why it isn't the cause of ASTS weakness

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Responds directly to a listener (Tim Stobirski) who suggested AT&T choosing Amazon Leo for fixed satellite internet was driving ASTS down; explains AT&T's Amazon Leo partnership is for fixed wireless to connect enterprise customers far from fiber/wireless coverage — a different market from AST SpaceMobile's direct-to-cell service — and calls Amazon Leo complementary to, not competitive with, AST SpaceMobile (analogous to Starlink fixed-wireless-to-home vs. Starlink direct-to-cell).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Argues that at most this news might explain selling only among investors who don't understand the company well, and reiterates that the whole space/growth sector was down similarly that day, so sector beta — not this specific news — explains ASTS's move.

Hedge fund and pod-shop risk mechanics

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Explains that multi-strategy 'pod shop' hedge funds (a portfolio manager plus one to several analysts, sometimes teams of ~10) run tight risk/factor limits, so during sell-offs they are forced to de-risk, producing exaggerated downside moves due to their use of leverage.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Describes typical pod drawdown limits as an example: an initial drawdown limit around 5% triggers a partial capital cut, 7% triggers further cuts, and around 10% a pod is effectively 'tapped out' — illustrating why funds under these constraints face a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' choice between buying dislocations or de-risking to survive.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Gives a worked example: a $500 million book down 5% (-$25M) that falls another 2% (down $37.5M total) could get its capital cut in half to $250M, making that drawdown very hard to recover from — explaining why only a small fraction of pod teams at firms like Millennium or Citadel have longevity.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Defines 'de-grossing': a fund running e.g. 3x leverage ($500M AUM deploying $1.5B of longs and shorts combined) that de-grosses 'one turn' would cut deployed capital to $1B, meaning it covers shorts and sells longs simultaneously, pulling liquidity from the market — a dynamic he says was visible repeatedly during the 2008 financial crisis when funds under stress were targeted based on known holdings ('soup du jour').

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Contrasts this with individual retail investors who aren't running margin or reporting to LPs, arguing retail can go on the 'offense' during forced institutional selling — including tactics like selling stock to buy calls to add risk, or selling low-conviction names to buy more of high-conviction ones.

'Know what you own' and portfolio consolidation philosophy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Argues that positions bought on a hot tip or in a hurry, without real understanding, are the first ones investors panic-sell during volatility ('negative gamma' — buying high on hype, selling low on fear), whereas genuine conviction in a name makes investors more likely to hold or add during a 10-20% drawdown.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Describes using down days to 'upgrade' a portfolio: if a low-conviction name is down 25% and a high-conviction name is down 20%, sell the low-conviction name and add to the high-conviction one.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he holds Vodafone 2027 LEAPS ($15 and $17 strike calls) that are up roughly 3-3.5x, and is tempted to monetize some to redeploy elsewhere but is holding because he retains conviction in the trade.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    States that if ASTS were down 30-40% while the rest of the sector was down only ~10%, that would signal a real company-specific problem, but since ASTS was down about 13% in line with the sector's 11-18% range that day, it's simply sector beta, not a company issue.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Frames the pullback as a good entry point for investors who have been on the sidelines, while cautioning that a short (1-2 year) time horizon risks 'buying the top,' whereas a 5-year view (analogous to buying real estate in New York or California through market cycles) should work out for names with strong long-term fundamentals.

Anpanman's own trading activity and position sizing

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Discloses buying AST SpaceMobile stock and call options today (some a bit early, more on the way down), adding to T1 Energy, and making small additions to Bridger, Strata Critical, and Kraken (sonar/battery systems supplier for underwater unmanned vehicles), plus a small addition to Velo, a highly volatile name he trades around opportunistically.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Says he sold a small 'Power Bank' position today specifically to consolidate the proceeds into ASTS.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Explains he trades only about 2-3% of his portfolio (up to a maximum of ~5%), mostly within a tax-advantaged account, and is not touching over 90% of his core AST SpaceMobile position because of its very low cost basis; a few weeks ago he monetized a speculative AST option position for proceeds of a few million dollars and used it to buy back AST stock.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he doesn't hold Rocket Lab currently (though he has in the past and finds it tempting) because he views space names as highly correlated with each other, and his highest conviction is concentrated in AST SpaceMobile rather than spreading exposure across similar names.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Says he doesn't have a strong view on data-center/AI infrastructure names like IREN because he hasn't followed them closely, but notes they were all down heavily that day similar to other tech sectors (e.g., Palantir -13.4%, Robinhood -10%, AMD -17%).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Mentions he owns Pagaya (consumer credit exposure) via warrants; the stock has taken a hit amid consumer-credit-market concerns, but he considers himself 'set and forget' on the warrants and is still up overall, citing continued company execution.

Community sentiment as a bottom indicator

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he watches the AST SpaceMobile Reddit community's sentiment as an informal bottom indicator — when sentiment turns very negative and long-standing bears get upvoted, it has tended to mark a tradable bottom; he says someone told him Reddit was 'flashing all the indicators' that day, though he hadn't checked it himself.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Describes a separate top-indicator he's noticed: when Twitter chatter starts hyping 'the next AST' or 'the next T1 Energy,' that kind of euphoria for copycat ideas can signal the market is overextended and due for a pullback.

ASTS price levels and market outlook

3
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he thinks $100 is roughly the current support level for ASTS, with the stock trading just under that; recalls that $20 was viewed as the prior support level in the first part of 2025, where the stock consolidated for a long time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Responding to a listener asking about a possible drop to $50, says he doesn't think ASTS goes that low, citing upcoming catalysts including commercial service launch, military awards, and the broader space-sector interest tied to the SpaceX IPO.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says he does not believe the broader market is entering a bearish trend, viewing the current pullback as healthy consolidation rather than a trend change, while acknowledging elevated uncertainty specifically around software and consumer-credit names.

Macro: Fed chair outlook and inflation

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Discusses market concern that an incoming new Fed chair nominee, who has previously made hawkish comments, could be bad for markets, but argues Trump likely selected someone who will be dovish/accommodative on rates given the administration's political incentives, drawing an analogy to Marco Rubio's shift from anti-Trump to fully aligned with the administration.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Says alternative inflation measures suggest inflation is still trending down, and his main lingering macro concern is speculative excess in commodities like silver and gold rather than in equities.

Space data centers vs. terrestrial data center terminal value (Jim Chanos debate)

3
  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:25

    Notes Jim Chanos, already bearish on data centers as a bubble, tweeted that if space-based data centers become a reality, terrestrial data centers would have no terminal value; Anpanman calls this 'absurd' and says it 'makes zero sense.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Argues the cost per kilogram to orbit needs to fall significantly before space-based data centers can be cost-competitive with terrestrial ones, and that reality is 'far' from that point currently, though he believes space data centers will eventually happen.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Compares current AI infrastructure buildout concerns to the dot-com bubble's overbuilding of fiber/optical networks, but argues today's AI use cases are grounded in real practical demand (unlike some dot-com-era business ideas), so while some overbuild and pullback is likely, he thinks 'it's different this time' — with the caveat that this is a commonly famous-last-words line.

Tax-lot management and account structure

2
  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Explains that in tax-advantaged accounts, cost basis of individual lots doesn't matter for tax purposes (only total contributions and eventual withdrawals matter), but in taxable accounts, investors should actively select tax lots to sell in order to control gains — e.g., if ASTS was bought years ago at a cost basis of $5 and again today at $98, selling later at $110-120 should target the $98 lot to minimize taxable short-term gain rather than triggering a large gain on the $5 lot.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Notes brokerages offer different tax-lot selection methods (LIFO, FIFO, or an automatic tax-efficient-optimal setting, citing E-Trade as an example) and recommends investors understand which method their broker uses.

Cape Canaveral launch-pad congestion and next BlueBird shipment

2
  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:50

    Says there is a backup at Cape Canaveral due to Artemis activity, a Crew Dragon Falcon 9 launch, ongoing construction, and limited launch-pad/processing capacity, compounded by a recent SpaceX Falcon 9 anomaly that requires investigation; says AST will not ship its next satellite batch until the launch site is ready to receive and process it, to avoid straining the relationship with launch providers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:50

    States his 'base case' expectation is that the next near-term launch will be Blue Origin New Glenn 3 carrying FM-2, no earlier than the end of the current month, and that 1-2 additional launches could follow before March 30-31, for a total of about 4 launches in that window — while acknowledging it could slip to 3 launches with 2 more shortly after.

Watch Items4

  • Blue Origin New Glenn 3 launch carrying FM-2 (BlueBird)

    No earlier than the end of the current month (Anpanman's base case, stated in a February 2026 episode) Anpanman 00:51:50
  • 1-2 additional BlueBird launches beyond New Glenn 3/FM-2

    Anpanman's base case is these occur before March 30-31, for roughly 4 total launches in the window; could slip to 3 with 2 more shortly after Anpanman 00:51:50
  • Next AST SpaceMobile satellite batch shipment to Cape Canaveral

    Delayed until Cape Canaveral launch pads/processing facilities are ready to receive it, given congestion from Artemis, a Crew Dragon Falcon 9 launch, construction, and a Falcon 9 anomaly investigation — no specific date given Anpanman 00:51:50
  • New Fed chair nomination and confirmation outcome

    Pending; no specific date given Anpanman 00:00:25

Open Questions4

  • Is the broader market entering a bearish trend, or is this simply a healthy pullback within an ongoing uptrend?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Will the incoming new Fed chair actually govern hawkishly despite having made hawkish comments in the past?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Will $100 hold as the new support level for ASTS, or could the stock fall further (e.g., toward $50) before catalysts like commercial service launch and military awards materialize?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • When exactly will Cape Canaveral launch-pad and processing congestion clear enough for AST to ship its next satellite batch?

    Anpanman 00:51:50
2026-02-03 21:19

Anpanman - Why the SpaceX-xAI Merger Changes Everything

Anpanman

In a solo commentary episode, Anpanman argues that the market badly misread Tuesday's SpaceX-xAI merger news, selling off space stocks on fears the SpaceX IPO will be delayed.

In fact, he says, a private-to-private deal between parties who already know each other (no HSR antitrust review needed) can close in a matter of weeks, keeping a June or possibly July IPO in play.

He frames the real story as strategic. Elon Musk's vertical integration in space now puts pressure on every other tech giant (Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple) to develop their own space and space-data-center strategy.

That, he argues, makes AST SpaceMobile, along with Rocket Lab, Voyager, Redwire, Intuitive Machines, and Karman, increasingly valuable as scarce, flight-proven partners for building infrastructure in space. He closes by predicting a coming surge in demand for space-hardened hardware (solar arrays, memory, processors) as data centers move into orbit.

Key Takeaways

  • Anpanman argues the space-sector sell-off following the SpaceX-xAI merger announcement is a market overreaction based on a misunderstanding of merger mechanics, since a private-to-private deal between related parties (Elon Musk on both sides) with no antitrust (HSR) overlap can close in weeks rather than the 4-8 months typical of public-to-public mergers.
  • Anpanman believes SpaceX's S-1 drafting for its planned IPO can proceed in parallel with the xAI merger closing, meaning a June or possibly July 2026 IPO target is still achievable if the SEC is cooperative, despite needing to incorporate xAI's business overview, risks, and pro forma financials.
  • Anpanman frames the SpaceX-xAI combination as a wake-up call for Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple, forcing them to develop their own space strategy because Elon Musk's vertical integration gives him a structural advantage in eventually building data centers in space for AI compute.
  • Anpanman positions AST SpaceMobile as a natural partner (not primarily an acquisition target) for big tech companies seeking space infrastructure expertise, citing Google's existing investments in both Planet Labs and AST SpaceMobile as a template for this kind of strategic relationship.
  • Anpanman names Rocket Lab, Voyager, Redwire, Intuitive Machines, and Karman alongside AST SpaceMobile as companies with scarce, flight-proven space expertise that will be in high demand as tech giants look for alternatives or partners outside SpaceX's ecosystem.
  • Anpanman predicts the push toward data centers in space will meaningfully increase demand for launch services (benefiting SpaceX and other launch providers even amid new 2027 launch capacity) and create what he calls a functionally unlimited addressable market for space-hardened hardware suppliers (solar arrays, memory chips, processors, storage).
  • Anpanman argues SpaceX will face increasing pressure to grow external commercial launch revenue (beyond just launching its own satellites) because xAI is not currently profitable and will require ongoing outside capital, on top of the capital needs of a space-data-center buildout.

Detailed Discussion4 topics

SpaceX-xAI Merger and IPO Timeline

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:30

    Anpanman opens by saying he was largely absent the prior day due to a basement flood from a neighbor's burst pipe that kept him up until 2am, but says he was still thinking about the SpaceX-xAI merger throughout and wanted to share thoughts on why he believes the market's reaction to the news was wrong.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman states that looking at yesterday's stock price reactions, he thinks the market 'just totally doesn't get it,' and that unlike close followers of the sector, he views the SpaceX-xAI merger announcement as incredibly bullish, with the only real negative risk being that Elon Musk's targeted June IPO for SpaceX could slip somewhat.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman explains merger mechanics: a public-to-public merger via tender process could close in as little as ~45 days at the short end, but typically takes 4 to 8 months; however, because the SpaceX-xAI deal is a private transaction where the buyer and seller are effectively the same person/party (Elon Musk and shareholders who know each other), and the companies don't compete or overlap (so no HSR antitrust review is needed), he expects the deal to close in a handful of weeks.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman says the bankers selected for the SpaceX IPO have likely already started drafting an S-1, which will need extra work to incorporate xAI's business overview, risks, and pro forma financials, but that this drafting can occur in parallel with the merger closing rather than delaying the process.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman concludes that if SpaceX and its bankers 'work their asses off' and the SEC is amenable and cooperative, a June or possibly July IPO is still achievable, and that yesterday's space-sector sell-off was driven by a mistaken assumption that the IPO would be delayed by 1-5 months.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:30

    Anpanman credits Redrum with summarizing the situation well in a post that morning discussing how SpaceX and xAI are working together, framing it as the trigger for his own analysis.

Big Tech's Space Race and AST SpaceMobile's Role

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman argues the SpaceX-xAI combination 'lights a fire under everyone's ass' among AI players who weren't previously prioritizing space, including OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic as the key AI players, plus Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple (whom he describes as 'pretty far behind'), and international players like Samsung.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:30

    Anpanman notes Google has already been thinking about space, citing its existing investment in and initial work with Planet Labs, as well as its investment and strategic partnership with AST SpaceMobile, as evidence.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman's core thesis: projecting 5-10 years out, the ability to build data centers in space becomes a major competitive advantage for a vertically integrated Elon Musk, forcing every compute-dependent AI company to figure out who to partner with in space; AST SpaceMobile, though focused on direct-to-device and military applications, already has building blocks that could support space data centers, making it a natural partner for these companies (whether through technology partnership, strategic investment, or joint ventures).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman says he thinks it is not a high probability that a big tech company acquires AST SpaceMobile outright, believing the company has more value as an independent player providing wholesale data and other services; if an acquisition did happen, he says it would need to be by an entity that preserves AST's neutrality among carriers, citing Google as one example of a company that could make sense.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman extends the argument to Tesla, saying any company competing with any part of Elon Musk's vertically integrated empire will need to find a space partner with relevant expertise and capability.

Other Space Companies as Strategic Assets (Rocket Lab, Voyager, Redwire, etc.)

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman names AST SpaceMobile, Rocket Lab, Voyager, Redwire, Intuitive Machines, and Karman (transcribed as 'Carmen') as companies that become strategically important because of their expertise and know-how delivering systems in space.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman highlights Rocket Lab specifically: it currently does small launch, is moving into medium launch, and builds space systems including solar-hardened gallium arsenide solar arrays — technology he expects to be in high demand.

  • Anpanman Rumor 00:00:30

    Anpanman recalls (with uncertainty — 'I think it was last summer') stories that OpenAI had looked at potentially investing in or merging with Rocket Lab, framing this as an early example of the kind of concrete partnership moves he expects to accelerate over the next few months as companies build alternatives to SpaceX.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman describes the dynamic among space companies as 'coopetition' — cooperating while also competing — noting SpaceX's Falcon 9 continues to launch competitors' payloads, and he doesn't expect that to change.

Pressure on SpaceX's Launch Business and Broader Hardware Demand

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman says he briefly caught up with Kook the previous night, and relays that this merger puts tremendous pressure on SpaceX to make money because xAI does not make money and is described as 'a big furnace' that needs continuous funding to improve.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman argues SpaceX will need to be more aggressive bringing on external commercial launch customers (rather than only launching its own satellites) because xAI will require ongoing money and investment, and the push toward data centers in space will also require significant capital; he notes Starlink itself remains a strong cash cow generating substantial revenue and free cash flow.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman argues the push into space data centers will itself create a new source of launch demand, which is a positive for all launch providers even though a large amount of new launch capacity is already coming online in 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman argues that while terrestrial data-center hardware suppliers like SanDisk, Micron, and Western Digital face some limits to demand on Earth, building data centers in space creates what he calls a functionally 'unlimited' total addressable market for memory chips, processors, and hard drives — which would still be manufactured on Earth but shipped to space in large volumes — benefiting hardware makers and solar companies broadly.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:30

    Anpanman predicts that sell-side analysts will eventually catch on to this narrative, perhaps within a few weeks, and recognize that there are only a small number of companies capable of executing this space data-center build-out, making them the ones to invest in.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:30

    Anpanman closes by saying he has to leave to meet a service provider coming to pump his flooded basement, signing off before reconnecting later.

Watch Items3

  • SpaceX IPO

    Targeted for June, possibly slipping to July 2026 Anpanman 00:00:30
  • SpaceX-xAI merger closing

    Anpanman expects closing within 'a handful of weeks' from the announcement Anpanman 00:00:30
  • Sell-side analyst recognition of the space-data-center narrative

    Anpanman estimates possibly within a few weeks of the episode Anpanman 00:00:30

Open Questions3

  • Will AST SpaceMobile end up as a strategic partner, joint-venture participant, or investment target for a major tech company, or could it eventually be acquired despite Anpanman viewing that as low-probability?

    Anpanman 00:00:30
  • Which specific big tech company (Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, or others) will move first to secure space infrastructure partnerships in response to the SpaceX-xAI merger?

    Anpanman 00:00:30
  • Will the SpaceX IPO timeline (June or July target) actually hold, or will the merger process cause a delay despite Anpanman's expectation of a fast private-transaction close?

    Anpanman 00:00:30
2026-02-02 59:48

Kook's Weekly - February 1 - Why AST SpaceMobile is Built for Superiority

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' episode (Feb 1, 2026), Kook argues that current macro-driven volatility in ASTS stock is noise that will look trivial in hindsight, similar to Netflix's invisible 2008 drawdown. He uses the week's news to build the case that AST SpaceMobile is becoming a strategic national-security asset.

The core evidence: the hire of 28-year Raytheon missile-defense veteran Mike Williams, AST's expanding role in the Golden Dome/MDA SHIELD defense architecture, and sworn AT&T Senate testimony affirming AST was chosen as the best solution.

He also points to an aggressive global spectrum-aggregation push: an EU 2 GHz MSS filing, a new 5 MHz US spectrum filing, and Ligado's filing moving toward public notice.

Kook's headline conclusion is that between defense-sector validation, a collaborative international partnership model (contrasted with Starlink's more disruptive approach), and a total addressable market Deutsche Bank now pegs at 1.75 billion users, AST SpaceMobile has the potential to become a 'Magnificent Seven'-scale company.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook argues short-term volatility (ASTS was down about $25 from its recent peak as of Friday morning) is irrelevant to long-term secular winners, citing Netflix's 33% drawdown during the 2008 financial crisis as now invisible on a long-term chart.
  • AST SpaceMobile hired Mike Williams, a 28-year Raytheon veteran and former missile defense chief, as director for system integration, test, and operations for federal programs — Kook frames this as strong validation since Williams is likely joining primarily for equity upside rather than cash compensation.
  • Kook frames AST's potential role in the Golden Dome missile-defense architecture across three layers: tracking (5G-signal disturbance used radar-like to detect objects penetrating airspace), transport (near-instantaneous global data dissemination via satellite, bypassing terrestrial delays), and custody (maintaining track of detected threats) — with the ultimate mix of roles still uncertain.
  • An FCC docket researcher nicknamed 'Katsy'/'KATSE' found six 'ghost filings' — redacted records with no visible links — in an AST-related FCC docket, suggesting undisclosed regulatory activity behind the scenes.
  • AT&T executives gave sworn Senate testimony that they evaluated available options and selected AST SpaceMobile as the best public-safety connectivity solution for connectivity, capacity, resiliency, and performance — testimony Kook cites to rebut 'vaporware' claims about AST.
  • Deutsche Bank now estimates a realistic total addressable market of 1.75 billion users globally for AST SpaceMobile, which Kook cites as evidence the company could reach 'Magnificent Seven' scale; by contrast, William Blair's more conservative model forecasts only $685 million of AST revenue in 2030.
  • Kook cites SpaceX's reported $16 billion total revenue (with $10 billion from Starlink) as evidence of large market demand for satellite connectivity, arguing AST's mobile-focused opportunity (likened to 'Facebook Mobile' vs. Starlink as 'Facebook Desktop') should ultimately be larger.
  • AST and Vodafone (via their SatCo joint venture) submitted a confidential response in the EU's process for allocating 2 GHz MSS spectrum, refuting analyst Tim Farrar's claim that AST/Vodafone hadn't even applied for it.
  • AST filed with the FCC seeking a 5 MHz sliver of 2 GHz spectrum in the US that sits between EchoStar's and SpaceX's existing spectrum holdings, which Kook frames as either a genuine spectrum grab or a bargaining chip for international spectrum trades.
  • Kook expects the FCC's approval of AST's full US SCS/direct-to-cell constellation market grant could come 'any day,' though he cautions that, given typical FCC timelines, that could still mean February or March.
  • Kook contrasts AST's collaborative approach with local partners (e.g., ISRO in India, Vodafone's SatCo in Europe) against Starlink's more disruptive approach, arguing this explains why India rejected a Starlink constellation application (citing incomplete D2C regulations) while AST may fare better given its ISRO partnership and high-profile relationships including Indian PM Modi.
  • The Ligado spectrum-lease FCC filing has been accepted for public notice, another procedural step forward in AST's pursuit of long-term L-band spectrum access.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Market Volatility and Long-Term Investing Perspective

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:25

    Kook opens by noting he'd expected this kind of macro headwind, citing February's typical post-January-effect weakness, an unexpectedly prolonged government shutdown, and market anxiety over whether Iran gets bombed as the drivers of the current sell-off.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook recalls living through the 2008 Great Financial Crisis while at a hedge fund and says that in hindsight, Netflix's chart shows no visible trace of the crisis despite a 33% peak-to-trough drawdown at the time; he draws the same comparison to Microsoft's April 2025 drawdown, now barely visible as a 'buy the dip' moment.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook states ASTS was already down $25 from its peak as of Friday morning, calling the stock's volatility 'astounding,' and says a little further 'blow-off' is his base case for February, though it may have already happened.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook argues that although the stock currently has no cash flow, the market is pricing in a future inflection to significant cash flow, and that understanding AST's underlying technology (not just financial multiples) is essential to understanding the investment opportunity, since the platform has multiplying use cases beyond simple communications.

Talent Influx: Mike Williams and Defense Hiring

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:25

    Kook highlights the hire of Mike Williams as director at AST for system integration, test, and operations for federal programs; Williams spent 28 years at Raytheon as missile defense chief before joining AST.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook argues that senior defense-prime veterans like Williams have secure pensions, prestige, and comfortable careers, so leaving after 28 years signals a genuinely compelling opportunity; he notes Williams is 'almost assuredly' not joining for cash compensation, since the bulk of wealth at AST historically comes from equity grants, meaning new hires are effectively making a big bet on the stock.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook cites a Tough4R analysis noting the hiring of radar experts 'Walcott' and Williams from Raytheon as signaling AST is bolstering its defense capabilities, with phased-array expertise potentially adapting AST's LEO satellites for radar applications like missile tracking and secure comms.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says he tries to track patterns of talent flow into AST as a signal — pointing to his years-old #MeetTheTeam Twitter series profiling AST employees — arguing that when experienced people 'YOLO' their careers into a company rather than just buying the stock, that's a stronger signal than retail buying alone.

AST's Role in Golden Dome / Missile Defense

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook lays out three potential layers where AST's technology could fit into missile-defense architecture: the tracking layer (sensing/locating missiles), the transport layer (moving large volumes of sensor data across space), and the custody layer (maintaining track of a detected threat/launcher).

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook explains that innovations in 5G technology can act like radar: as an object like a missile penetrates airspace, it disturbs an RF/5G signal field (he likens it to seeing 'the ones and zeros bend' in The Matrix), which AST's technology could exploit for tracking even though radar has historically been the domain of dedicated radar companies.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Even if AST doesn't end up providing the radar/tracking function itself, Kook argues AST is well positioned for the transport layer — enabling near-instantaneous global dissemination of missile-tracking data and bypassing terrestrial delays, enhancing real-time missile surveillance for the US government.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook says it's unclear which of the three layers (tracking, transport, custody) AST will ultimately win, but doesn't think losing one layer is 'game over,' since the product roadmap and commercial pipeline will keep evolving.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook describes a finding by an FCC-docket researcher he calls 'Katsy'/'KATSE': the FCC's filing system shows row numbers for filings with no accessible links or content ('ghost filings'), and six such ghost filings were found in a relevant docket, suggesting redacted/undisclosed filings exist that require special privileges to view.

Industry Validation, Short-Seller Pushback, and AT&T Senate Testimony

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:25

    Kook cites a tweet from 'Only 6 Inches' relaying comments from an EchoStar expert who reportedly says AST is 'number one,' that Starlink will eventually compete directly against MNOs (creating channel conflict), and that AST's satellite size is technologically impressive.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:20:51

    Kook mocks a short seller who, when asked what would change his mind on AST, answered 'EBIT' — Kook counters that once the company has positive earnings before interest and taxes, the stock price will already have moved, since the market is pricing in a future cash-flow inflection now.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook draws an analogy to Tesla, recalling he once thought (but didn't trade on) the idea that revenue/cash flow could be a 'curse' once the market realized Tesla was 'just a car company' during the Model 3 ramp — but Tesla ultimately became a strong investment once revenue materialized, which he suggests is instructive for ASTS skeptics waiting to cover their shorts on positive EBIT.

  • Kook Untagged 00:20:51

    Kook notes AT&T's year-in-review commentary called AST SpaceMobile technology 'really cool,' but dismisses this as something skeptics could wave off as 'paid pumpers'; he instead points to AT&T's sworn Senate testimony as more credible evidence.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:20:51

    In Senate testimony, a senator asked AT&T whether it sought proposals before selecting AST SpaceMobile; AT&T's response, per Kook, was that it evaluated the solution and selected the best option for public safety based on the highest level of connectivity, capacity, resiliency, and performance.

  • Kook Untagged 00:20:51

    Kook cautions that AT&T's selection of AST as the best technical solution is not by itself a complete investment thesis — total addressable market, commercial strategy, and execution on production all still need to go right.

TAM and Comparisons to SpaceX/Starlink and 'Magnificent Seven' Scale

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:20:51

    Kook notes the recurring bear argument even among shorts who concede the technology works is that the TAM is limited to niche use cases (he references the 'Yosemite tourist' who uses satellite service for 5 seconds to tweet a photo).

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook cites Sequoia Capital partner Shaun Maguire (who covers SpaceX for the firm) calling Starlink's direct-to-cell opportunity 'one of the biggest market opportunities ever,' arguing that Sequoia's institutional track record of spotting large markets lends credibility to the claim.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook cites broker figures he received showing SpaceX total revenue at $16 billion, of which $10 billion is Starlink revenue and growing quickly; he notes this doesn't fully explain SpaceX's reported $1.5 trillion valuation, which he attributes partly to Elon Musk's newly floated plan for a constellation of up to a million satellites to power AI data centers in space.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook argues that if Starlink (a fixed-broadband-like product) can generate $10 billion in revenue, AST's mobile-focused direct-to-cell opportunity should be larger, analogizing current Starlink to 'Facebook on desktop' and AST SpaceMobile to 'Facebook Mobile,' where mobile ultimately drove Facebook's growth.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook cites Zero Hedge noting the space sector was the dominant return driver in 2025 and that the same trend is repeating so far in 2026; he credits the Trump administration's redirection toward the Department of War/'space superiority' messaging and Goldman Sachs launching a 'GS Moon Index' as evidence institutional attention to the space theme is accelerating, while cautioning that heavy bank attention to a theme can sometimes mark a late stage (as with prior 'BRIC Index'-style trends).

Global Spectrum Strategy: Japan, Europe/SatCo, EU 2 GHz Spectrum, Ligado, Inmarsat

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  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook cites a share from 'Elena Niera' (MIT) that Japan is calling for a national LEO infrastructure development project to reduce dependence on overseas constellations, similar to Europe's IRIS² initiative; Kook questions whether Japan can build its own constellation alone or whether it would make more economic sense to adopt a SatCo-like joint structure given its small population and the natural monopoly economics of satellite constellations.

  • Kook Speculation 00:20:51

    Kook predicts Europe's SatCo (the AST/Vodafone European JV) will likely be up and operating well before Europe's IRIS² sovereign constellation, if IRIS² is ever operational at all.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook mentions a German ITU filing, flagged by researcher 'Katsy,' for an 'Arctic shell' related to SATCOM, noting Arctic shells are important for military use and suggesting this signals the intended (government/defense) user base for such a system.

  • Kook Untagged 00:32:53

    Kook mentions Inmarsat 'got basically a red card from a judge' recently, describing it only briefly as 'a different story,' and separately says the legal system is 'showing its integrity' in the ongoing AST-Ligado-Inmarsat adversary proceeding by keeping the case on track.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:32:53

    Kook discusses a race for 2 GHz MSS spectrum in Europe; he quotes analyst Tim Farrar mocking AST/Vodafone, claiming Orange avoided the word 'broadband' because it doesn't believe AST's claims, and that AST/Vodafone 'didn't even bother to submit comments' in the EU process. Kook rebuts this directly, stating AST/Vodafone did comment and that he is certain, based on his own study of the AST-Inmarsat adversary proceeding hearings, that AST/Vodafone submitted a confidential response to the EU and are actively pursuing this spectrum.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:32:53

    Kook cites figures suggesting that with MIMO (multiple satellites hitting the same coverage area simultaneously), AST/Vodafone's filings claim they might achieve 6 bits per hertz of spectral efficiency, versus Kook's own more conservative modeling sensitivities (he recalls using roughly 2.5 as a base case and 3-4 as an upside case, though he's uncertain of the exact figures he used). He frames higher bits-per-hertz as directly translating to more data and better economics given the ~10 GHz processing/power-constrained limit on next-generation satellites.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:32:53

    Kook says AST's overall strategy is to become a vehicle for 'global spectrum aggregation,' quoting CEO Abel Avellan describing the resulting portfolio as 'worth more than anyone can pay.'

India Regulatory Environment and ISRO Partnership

3
  • Kook Confirmed 00:32:53

    Kook notes Starlink was rejected for its constellation application in India because India has not yet completed its D2C-frequency regulations, and that analyst 'Rocket Tank 123' believes the same regulatory gap could apply to AST until pathways are finalized.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook argues AST is likely to fare better than Starlink in India because AST has built goodwill by partnering with and elevating ISRO's global reputation as a launch partner, and because Indian Prime Minister Modi has publicly tweeted about the company, whereas Starlink has not invested in local partnerships or content in India.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook speculates that large existing Indian telecom incumbents (e.g., Reliance) may lobby against Starlink because it would disintermediate their existing business, making it harder for Starlink to get regulatory approval, whereas he expects AST to have a smoother experience given its collaborative approach.

Local Community Goodwill and US Regulatory Outlook

6
  • Kook Untagged 00:32:53

    Kook cites the Midland, Texas mayor praising AST SpaceMobile's presence in the community, calling it 'the cowbell of Midland,' and noting the local spaceport is now considered a strategic site for national security and defense.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook says a series of FCC filings show AST's partners (e.g., AT&T lawyers, not CEO-level executives) are actively finalizing documents, which he interprets as a sign that a full US market grant from the FCC could come 'any day' — though he cautions that in FCC timelines, 'any day' could still mean February or March.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:32:53

    Kook notes the Ligado FCC filing (tied to AST's L-band spectrum lease) has been accepted for public notice, calling this an important step for a future source of value for the company.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:32:53

    Kook notes UK regulator Ofcom has officially cleared the regulatory path for direct-to-device satellites, which he frames as another domino falling in AST's favor as more countries follow the FCC's lead.

  • Kook Speculation 00:32:53

    Kook credits Jennifer Manor, described as AST's 'queen of spectrum,' for the company's strategic spectrum posturing, arguing AST's satellites are ultimately just the 'mode' for spectrum aggregation — the true scarce asset is the spectrum leases themselves, analogizing to Dish/Charlie Ergen's spectrum being valuable mainly because Starlink, not Dish (Charlie), could monetize it.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:32:53

    Kook describes a new AST FCC filing seeking a 5 MHz sliver of 2 GHz spectrum in the US, positioned between EchoStar's and SpaceX's spectrum, which could degrade the contiguity of SpaceX's spectrum highway; Kook is unsure why EchoStar itself isn't applying for it, and frames AST's filing as either a genuine acquisition or a bargaining chip to trade for spectrum where SpaceX has an advantage internationally.

Defense Sector Developments: Golden Dome Economics, Blue Origin, and Army Relationships

6
  • Kook Untagged 00:48:55

    Kook references a Space News article, 'Golden Dome is forcing the Pentagon to confront missile defense economics,' noting missile defense is expensive and that sovereign national constellations (e.g., a hypothetical Japan or Europe going it alone) likely don't make economic sense given the natural-monopoly economics of satellite constellations.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    Kook references last week's discussion of the 'MilNet' dedicated government system 'magically' disappearing, tying it to a broader trend of government leveraging shared commercial systems like AST SpaceMobile rather than building fully dedicated ones.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:48:55

    Kook argues AST's vertically integrated production capacity — putting out roughly 6 satellites per month, and potentially up to 12 per month according to Scott (Wisniewski) — will be strategically important to the government, since it drives down costs for large-scale power generation and RF signal generation in orbit.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:55

    Kook notes AST is sponsoring a black-tie dinner for senior US Army leadership, including Golden Dome program director Mike Gutling, as a sign AST is well-positioned relationally with defense decision-makers.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:55

    Kook notes AT&T announced it was awarded a contract under the Missile Defense Agency SHIELD program (with AT&T business-development lead Kyle Mullen making the announcement), and says it's unclear how the prime-versus-subcontractor roles and economics between AT&T and AST will shake out on this program.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:48:55

    Kook notes Blue Origin is discontinuing its New Shepard suborbital tourism program to focus resources on scaling up New Glenn, AST's heavy-lift launch partner, calling this a positive development for AST.

TAM Estimates: Deutsche Bank vs. William Blair, and Historical Context

5
  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    Kook cites Deutsche Bank (highlighted via 'SPAC Bobby') estimating a realistic TAM of 1.75 billion users globally for AST SpaceMobile, with Deutsche Bank suggesting it might make sense for AST to pivot away from the primary broadband opportunity or price it higher given very strong demand and limited capacity to serve everything.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    By contrast, Kook notes William Blair's report forecasts only $685 million of AST revenue in 2030, calling it a lowball estimate with 'room to upgrade' relative to Deutsche Bank's more bullish TAM view.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    Kook recounts that rehashed news about Starlink and Apple (via a tweet from Mario Nawfal) plus unusual Friday trading action (stock ripping in the first 30 minutes, 'bid without offer') made it feel like something material was about to be announced, but the move faded and the stock gave back gains later that day.

  • Kook Speculation 00:48:55

    Kook closes with a reference to an article on the NRO's declassified Jumpseat spy satellite program, noting these Cold War-era programs (referenced in the book 'Keyhole') are historically underappreciated but were directly important to ending the Cold War, drawing a parallel to today's rapidly evolving electronic-warfare and space-based national security landscape in which he believes AST is well positioned to compete against the largest US defense primes.

  • Kook Untagged 00:48:55

    Kook closes by emphasizing the importance of investors having their own game plan, noting his own approach has simply been to buy as much stock as possible and hold through volatility (implied volatility on the stock is around 100), and encouraging listeners newer to the stock to brace for continued volatility.

Watch Items5

  • FCC full US market grant for AST's SCS/direct-to-cell constellation license modification

    Kook expects it could come 'any day,' but cautions that could still mean February or March 2026 given typical FCC timelines Kook 00:32:53
  • EU decision on 2 GHz MSS spectrum allocation (AST/Vodafone's SatCo submitted a confidential response)

    Not specified; ongoing EU regulatory process Kook 00:32:53
  • India's completion of D2C spectrum regulations, which will determine whether AST (like Starlink) faces rejection for its constellation application

    Not specified; regulatory pathway still pending in India Kook 00:32:53
  • Ligado FCC filing progressing through public notice toward final approval, unlocking long-term L-band spectrum access

    Not specified; filing recently accepted for public notice Kook 00:32:53
  • Resolution of prime/subcontractor roles and economics between AT&T and AST on the Missile Defense Agency SHIELD program

    Kook expects this to play out 'over the next year' Kook 00:48:55

Open Questions6

  • Which of the three Golden Dome value-chain layers (tracking, transport, custody) will AST ultimately occupy, and will it capture more than one?

    Kook 00:00:25
  • What do the six redacted 'ghost filings' found in an AST-related FCC docket actually contain?

    Kook 00:00:25
  • Why is EchoStar not itself applying for the 5 MHz sliver of 2 GHz US spectrum that AST is now pursuing?

    Kook 00:32:53
  • Will Japan build its own sovereign LEO constellation, or adopt a joint structure similar to Europe's SatCo?

    Kook 00:20:51
  • How will the prime-contractor versus subcontractor roles and economics between AT&T and AST shake out on the Missile Defense Agency SHIELD program?

    Kook 00:48:55
  • Will AST face the same India regulatory delays that caused Starlink's constellation application to be rejected, or will its ISRO partnership and local goodwill lead to smoother approval?

    Kook 00:32:53
2026-01-31 56:52

Anpanman - The Million Satellite Race: SpaceX, AI, and the Orbital Data Center Revolution

Anpanman

In this solo episode, Anpanman reacts to SpaceX's FCC filing for a constellation of up to 1 million satellites for AI data center applications. He argues Musk's entry validates a previously speculative 'space data centers' thesis, much like his 2022 direct-to-cell announcement validated AST SpaceMobile's business model years earlier.

He argues space solves terrestrial data centers' land, freshwater-cooling, and grid-power constraints. He also argues that AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 BlueBird satellites — already generating 100-120 kilowatts of power with built-in thermal dissipation and AI-driven beamforming chips — are effectively an existing blueprint for an orbital data center.

In his view, that positions AST as the most logical non-SpaceX partner for Google, Amazon, Microsoft, or OpenAI.

He closes bullish on 2026, expecting the SpaceX IPO to re-rate the entire space sector and drive institutional attention toward names like AST SpaceMobile. He also points to solar plays (T1 Energy, PowerBank, ASTI) that he sees benefiting from surging AI power demand both on Earth and in orbit.

Key Takeaways

  • SpaceX filed with the FCC for a potential constellation of up to 1 million satellites dedicated to AI data center applications, which Anpanman calls a watershed, formal validation of the 'data centers in space' market.
  • Anpanman draws a direct parallel to 2022, when Musk's Starlink direct-to-cell announcement (on the eve of AST SpaceMobile's BlueWalker 3 launch) validated AST's direct-to-device concept even though Starlink's initial product was, in his view, an imperfect minimally-viable solution.
  • Anpanman argues space-based data centers solve three terrestrial constraints simultaneously: limited land, competition for freshwater used in cooling, and unstable/insufficient power grids, using space's 'infinite cooling sink' and unlimited solar power generation.
  • AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 BlueBird satellites already generate 100-120 kilowatts of power per satellite with built-in thermal dissipation and modular 'Micron' solar/antenna/processor building blocks, which Anpanman says makes them an existing blueprint for an orbital AI data center with only incremental engineering changes (swapping ASICs/FPGAs for TPUs or GPUs).
  • Anpanman believes AST SpaceMobile is the most logical non-SpaceX partner for large tech companies (Google, Amazon, Microsoft, OpenAI) that want space-based AI compute capacity without being fully dependent on SpaceX's vertically integrated stack.
  • SpaceX's FCC filing reportedly proposes decommissioning end-of-life satellites by propelling them toward the sun to burn up, rather than deorbiting them into Earth's atmosphere, which Anpanman worries could otherwise release large amounts of metal debris as tens of thousands of Starlink-class satellites reach end of life.
  • Anpanman estimates the addressable market for AI data centers in space could reach roughly $26-40 billion by 2035 (a ChatGPT-sourced estimate he flags as uncertain), smaller than existing satellite communications (~$108B in 2024) or GPS/PNT (~$260B in 2023) markets but still a meaningful new vertical for the space sector.
  • Anpanman is watching solar-energy names — T1 Energy, PowerBank (ticker SUN), and microcap ASTI — as beneficiaries of surging AI power demand both on Earth and in orbit, noting PowerBank recently supplied solar/thermal/power management hardware for a small test satellite (with an Nvidia processor) run by a company called Orbital AI.
  • Anpanman expects the anticipated 2026 SpaceX IPO, potentially valuing the company around $1.5 trillion (or $2-3 trillion if merged with xAI/Tesla), to be a major educational event that draws institutional investors into the broader space sector, including AST SpaceMobile.
  • Anpanman's own historical pattern-matching is that when SpaceX/Musk states an ambitious timeline, actual delivery tends to take roughly twice as long — so if SpaceX says space AI data centers arrive in 3 years, he'd estimate 5-6 years in practice.

Detailed Discussion9 topics

SpaceX's 1-Million-Satellite FCC Filing for AI Data Centers

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    SpaceX filed with the FCC 'yesterday' (relative to the recording) for a potential constellation of up to 1 million satellites to perform AI data center applications; Anpanman notes companies often request more than they expect to need from regulators, but calls 1 million 'a very big number.'

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    China has separately disclosed plans for a constellation in the range of 'several hundred thousand' satellites intended to compete with Starlink and AST SpaceMobile, which Anpanman suggests may have spurred Musk to file for an even larger number.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    After the filing, someone tweeted a 'Dr. Evil' joke about the 1-million figure ('why not 1 billion'), and Musk replied that he actually meant 1 billion, which Anpanman treats as a joke rather than a real revised figure.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman frames the filing as a watershed moment because the most visible and successful space company has now formally, not just rhetorically, entered the AI-data-centers-in-space market, which had previously been championed mainly by early-stage startups like StarCloud.

Why Musk's Entry Validates the Space Data Center Market

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Anpanman recalls that in 2017 Abel Avellan's vision of connecting unmodified 3GPP phones directly to satellites was widely viewed as a 'pipe dream,' and that AST iterated through BlueWalker 1 and then BlueWalker 3 to prove it out.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    On the eve of the BlueWalker 3 launch, Musk announced Starlink direct-to-cell and effectively claimed SpaceX had already created the technology, when in Anpanman's view it had not; Starlink's initial offering was an imperfect, minimally-viable product but still drew major investor interest into the sector and silenced some naysayers.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    As evidence the direct-to-cell market is not small, Anpanman notes SpaceX spent 'over $20 billion' acquiring EchoStar spectrum for US direct-to-cell use, and separately AST SpaceMobile purchased Ligado spectrum for the same underlying purpose.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    StarCloud's CEO had been publicly championing data centers in space and, in Anpanman's telling, faced skepticism ('folks kind of laughing at him'); Musk's entry now validates that thesis and should make it easier for StarCloud and similar startups to raise capital. Anpanman is separately skeptical of StarCloud's specific satellite/solar-array architecture, calling it 'a big target that would get hit by debris.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman cites SpaceX's broader vertical integration — potential mergers/links with Tesla and xAI spanning launch, communications satellites, data centers, solar production, robotics, and AI applications (X, xAI) — as context for why Musk is pushing into space data centers now.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Tesla announced (the prior Friday) plans to build 100 gigawatts of production capacity for solar panels, modules and cells; some solar stocks sold off on fears Tesla would sell that capacity externally, but Anpanman says the earnings transcript indicates Tesla/Musk's businesses plan to consume all of that capacity internally for their own data centers and applications.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman argues grid infrastructure cannot support new large power sources at a distance, so power generation (solar, natural gas, or nuclear) increasingly has to be built directly next to data centers ('behind the meter') rather than delivered over the existing grid.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Musk's broader track record — reusable rockets (once dismissed as impossible), replicating and improving on OneWeb's LEO fixed-wireless concept into Starlink, and turning Tesla/EVs into a mainstream product after skepticism — is cited as evidence he tends to correctly identify large future markets, even if AST SpaceMobile ultimately built superior direct-to-device technology.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman's own timeline expectation: even if SpaceX says space AI data centers will happen in a given number of years (e.g. 3), he expects it will actually take roughly twice as long (e.g. 5-6 years) based on Musk's historical pattern of missing deadlines while still eventually delivering.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Small companies are already testing pieces of this market: Anpanman mentions PowerBank (ticker SUN) supplying the solar-thermal and power-management system for a test satellite doing distributed compute in space for a company called Orbital AI, which he says launched roughly a few weeks before this episode.

Market Sizing for Space Applications

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Citing figures he pulled from ChatGPT and flagging them as uncertain, Anpanman estimates the Earth-observation market (Planet Labs, BlackSky, SatLogic, etc.) at about $5 billion currently, growing to roughly $8 billion by 2033 — sizable but 'not that big.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    He estimates the satellite communications market (AST SpaceMobile's category) at about $108 billion in 2024, expected to grow significantly, with direct-to-device specifically nascent but forecast at roughly a 100% CAGR over the next 5-10 years.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    He cites GPS/position-navigation-timing as the largest space application market at about $260 billion in 2023, and government space spending (military and other applications) at about $132 billion.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    For the new AI-data-centers-in-space vertical, Anpanman cites differing forecasts of roughly $26 billion to $40 billion in size by 2035 — smaller than communications but still a meaningful new addressable market opening up for space companies.

Technical Case for Moving AI Compute to Space

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman says (with self-flagged uncertainty about the exact figures) that roughly 40% of a terrestrial data center's electricity goes to cooling and about 60% to compute/data transmission; moving the cooling burden to space via radiative heat dissipation would free up much more power for actual compute.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    On Earth, data centers force trade-offs between land use, freshwater for cooling, and other human needs (food/water); Anpanman argues there is a practical cap on how many terrestrial data centers can be built, and that alternatives like cold-climate or underwater data centers risk melting polar regions or, at the extreme, 'boiling the oceans.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman argues that putting compute on the moon or in sun-synchronous/solar orbit avoids these Earth-bound resource trade-offs entirely.

Satellite End-of-Life and Orbital Debris Concerns in SpaceX's Filing

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    Anpanman says the SpaceX FCC filing (as he reads it, with some uncertainty) proposes decommissioning satellites by giving them propulsion to push themselves out of orbit and toward the sun to burn up, rather than deorbiting them into Earth's atmosphere.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    He views this as a better solution than atmospheric deorbiting, since burning up large numbers of satellites' metals and materials in Earth's atmosphere is not good for humans, and he worries the industry will soon see 'hundreds and thousands' of satellites deorbiting given Starlink's plans for tens of thousands of satellites with roughly 2-3 year useful lives in very low Earth orbit.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman states his own preference is for a smaller number (a few hundred) of satellites in higher orbit with longer useful lives of roughly 7-10, potentially up to 12, years, which he views as a better environmental and performance approach — an implicit reference to AST SpaceMobile's constellation design versus Starlink's.

AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 Satellites as a Space Data Center Blueprint

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:18:04

    Anpanman recounts a conversation with a portfolio manager at Hennessy, described as one of the few longtime institutional holders of AST SpaceMobile, about the company's future optionality beyond its core direct-to-device business, including military applications.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman expects AST SpaceMobile could generate 'probably a few hundred million dollars' of revenue in the coming year (2026) from military applications alone, once the constellation is deployed.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:04

    Block 2 BlueBird satellites generate 100 to 120 kilowatts of power via modular 'Micron' building blocks that have solar panels on one side, phased-array antennas on the other, and processors (currently FPGAs, transitioning to AST's proprietary ASIC) sandwiched between, with built-in heat dissipation.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    The satellites' ASICs already run an AI algorithm to perform efficient beamforming for communications; Anpanman argues it would not be a large technical leap to swap those chips for TPUs or GPUs to perform AI compute rather than just communications beamforming, though he notes this isn't yet optimized for that purpose.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    Anpanman recalls Elon Musk stating, roughly a month before this episode, that a space data center needs about 100 kilowatts of power to work — a threshold Anpanman says AST SpaceMobile's Block 2 satellites already meet and have already demonstrated in orbit, in a form factor that fits inside a standard rocket fairing and unfolds.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    AST SpaceMobile is already partnered with Google on communications, optimizing satellite service for Android devices, which Anpanman cites as an existing relationship that could extend into a data-center partnership.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:04

    AST SpaceMobile currently has a production cadence of 6 satellites per month and has made plans to expand that to 12 satellites per month.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman cites AST SpaceMobile's roughly 3,800 patents and patent-pending claims, existing tooling, know-how, and supply chain as reasons the company could logically pivot excess production capacity toward building space data centers once the core communications constellation is built out.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman says he has personally told AST SpaceMobile that it should form a dedicated 'skunkworks' group focused on AI data centers if it hasn't already, and that based on conversations he had with the company roughly two years ago, AST was already working 4-5 satellite generations ahead of what's publicly discussed (Block 2/Block 3), suggesting the company may already be pursuing this internally.

Potential Partners and Competitive Landscape for Space Data Centers

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman argues Google, Amazon, Microsoft, OpenAI, and Meta will all need space-industry partners to compete in AI data centers, since none of them currently operate meaningfully in space themselves aside from prior failed efforts like Google/Meta's high-altitude balloon internet projects.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    He argues this will not be a winner-take-all market dominated solely by SpaceX, since other large tech players may not fully trust or want to depend on a vertically integrated Musk-controlled stack, creating an opening for AST SpaceMobile as a partner building 5-6 ton satellites with large deployable solar arrays.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    He names K2 Space as another company building large satellites for big applications, but notes he doesn't believe they have put a satellite in orbit yet; he also suggests Rocket Lab could plausibly move into the space-data-center market.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:04

    Planet Labs is running a pilot with Google to send an Nvidia processor to space in CubeSat form, targeted around the end of this year or early next year, as one smaller-scale approach to space compute.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman argues large legacy prime contractors are too slow-moving, bureaucratic, and cost-plus to build this kind of hardware quickly, citing an unnamed prime's satellite program (built for Viasat, per his recollection) that was delivered years late and over budget, as reasons this opportunity favors newer, faster-iterating companies like AST SpaceMobile.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Beyond big tech, Anpanman expects telecom carriers (AT&T, Verizon, Vodafone) that already run terrestrial data center/interconnectivity/hosting businesses to seek space partnerships as well, potentially through existing relationships like AST SpaceMobile.

Solar Energy as the Enabling Resource

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    AST SpaceMobile uses commercial-grade (not specialized/exotic) solar panels that are then hardened for space radiation and temperature extremes, rather than exotic space-specific solar technology.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:18:04

    T1 Energy makes silicon TOPCon solar modules and cells and is positioned to benefit from surging solar demand; it currently runs a solar module plant at 5 gigawatts of annual capacity and is standing up a solar cell fab targeting an additional 5 gigawatts of capacity, expected online around the end of this year, benefiting from US domestic-content tax incentives.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman draws an analogy to Micron shifting DRAM/NAND production away from consumer PCs toward data centers as demand outstripped commodity supply, predicting the same dynamic in solar: AI data center demand (terrestrial and orbital) will absorb the bulk of solar production, raising prices and potentially reducing solar panel availability for residential use.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman holds a small speculative position in ASTI, a microcap making flexible thin-film solar modules for space applications; the company has spent heavily on R&D without yet commercializing the technology, though it recently raised capital and cited interested customers.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:18:04

    PowerBank (ticker SUN), which recently rebranded from a residential/small-business solar-farm developer, is pivoting toward 'behind-the-meter' solar-plus-battery power for data centers under CEO Dr. Richard Lu, targeting small-and-medium enterprise data center customers rather than hyperscalers like Google, Amazon, or Microsoft.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:18:04

    PowerBank supplied the solar panel technology, electrical management, and thermal management for a test satellite (reportedly carrying an Nvidia processor as proof of concept) for a company called Orbital AI, which is primarily focused on blockchain processing/validation in space.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:18:04

    Anpanman estimates PowerBank's market cap at roughly $45 million per Bloomberg, though he believes the true figure is closer to $70-80 million once dilutive securities are accounted for; the company has June fiscal year-end financials of $41 million revenue and about 25% gross margin in FY2025, roughly breakeven EBITDA, with Street estimates of $63 million revenue in FY2026 and $87 million in FY2027, gross margins reaching the mid-50s by FY2028, and EBITDA profitability by around June 2027.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:18:04

    Per his conversation with PowerBank's CEO, the company spends roughly $8-10 million annually to remain Nasdaq-listed, is not currently raising capital despite inbound interest, and the CEO's ambition is to return the stock to the $5-6 level it hit around its Nasdaq listing.

SpaceX IPO and 2026 Outlook for the Space Sector

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    Recent SpaceX financial disclosures reportedly show roughly $15-16 billion in revenue and about $8 billion in EBITDA, with Starlink contributing 60-70% (and likely more on a cash-flow basis) of that financial performance.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    Anpanman argues a core driver behind SpaceX's push into space data centers is the need to generate enough cargo/payload demand to justify Starship's capacity, similar to how a lack of sufficient launch customers in the early 2010s pushed Musk toward building Starlink as a demand source for Falcon 9.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    Anpanman expects the SpaceX IPO in 2026 to be a major educational event for institutional investors, potentially valuing SpaceX around $1.5 trillion standalone, or in the $2-3 trillion range if merged with xAI and/or Tesla, and predicts this will re-rate valuations across the space sector, including AST SpaceMobile and Rocket Lab.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    He references Stanford's Professor Kevin Mack, who has discussed the possibility of AST SpaceMobile reaching 'S-rank cult status' among investors, which Anpanman says he thinks is possible as growth narratives that consensus doesn't yet see get priced in.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:55:38

    Anpanman closes bullish on the broader 2026 outlook for the space sector, citing Trump-administration emphasis on American space superiority, the SpaceX IPO, and growing institutional awareness of both direct-to-device and now AI-data-center applications as tailwinds, and says he remains especially optimistic on 'space and solar' as investment themes.

Watch Items6

  • SpaceX IPO

    2026 (as anticipated by Anpanman) Anpanman 00:55:38
  • AST SpaceMobile military/defense revenue ramp once constellation is deployed

    this coming year (2026) Anpanman 00:18:04
  • AST SpaceMobile satellite production cadence increase from 6/month to a planned 12/month

    no specific date given Anpanman 00:18:04
  • PowerBank (SUN) EBITDA profitability

    around June 2027, per Street estimates Anpanman 00:18:04
  • T1 Energy new solar cell fab (additional 5 GW capacity) coming online

    end of this year (2026) Anpanman 00:18:04
  • Planet Labs/Google pilot sending an Nvidia processor to space in CubeSat form

    end of this year or early next year Anpanman 00:18:04

Open Questions4

  • Will AI data centers in space actually launch on SpaceX's stated timeline, or take roughly twice as long (5-6 years) as Anpanman speculates based on Musk's historical pattern of delayed-but-eventual delivery?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Which large tech companies (Google, Amazon, Microsoft, OpenAI, Meta) will end up partnering with AST SpaceMobile versus SpaceX, or attempting to build their own space capabilities, for AI compute in orbit?

    Anpanman 00:18:04
  • Can the technical challenges of scaling AI compute payloads in space — processing density beyond current beamforming ASICs, and thermal management at larger scale — actually be solved economically, and on what timeline?

    Anpanman 00:18:04
  • How will satellite operators handle end-of-life decommissioning at the scale SpaceX is now proposing (tens of thousands to potentially a million satellites) without significant atmospheric or orbital debris consequences?

    Anpanman 00:18:04
2026-01-29 1:13:36

Anpanman - Breaking $124: The AST SpaceMobile Supercycle

Anpanman · Unidentified guest

In this solo X Spaces recap (recorded ~Jan 28, republished Jan 29, 2026), Anpanman marks AST SpaceMobile's new all-time high of $124.32 intraday ($121.23 close) as a sign the stock is transitioning from speculative trading vehicle to mature, institutionally-owned market leader.

He walks through the January 23 joint FCC meeting between AST, AT&T, Verizon, and FirstNet as evidence US regulatory approval for commercial service is in its final stages. He previews near-term catalysts: Bluebird 6 unfolding, the Bluebird 7 New Glenn launch, and the SpaceX IPO.

He argues the company is approaching 'S-rank' cult-stock status akin to Tesla or Palantir, as investors start pricing in AI-data-center hosting and Golden Dome defense applications beyond the core connectivity business.

His headline conclusion: pullbacks are likely but the stock isn't going back to $50, and 2026 catalysts should drive a broader institutional re-rating.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile stock hit a new intraday all-time high of $124.32 and closed at $121.23, which Anpanman frames as the start of a sustained institutional re-rating rather than a short-lived spike, unlike prior false-dawn rallies in 2022-2024.
  • AST SpaceMobile, AT&T, Verizon, FirstNet, and consultants Dave Marshak Group and RKF held a joint meeting with the FCC on January 23, 2026 — a rare unified show of support Anpanman reads as a strong signal that FCC approval of AST's US market/SCS application is close, likely landing between late January and mid-February 2026.
  • The fact that attorneys and representatives (not C-suite executives like Abel Avellan or the carriers' CEOs) attended the January 23 FCC meeting is, per Anpanman, a positive sign — senior-executive attendance late in a regulatory process would typically indicate problems.
  • Bluebird 7 is expected to launch no earlier than the end of February 2026, likely slipping into early March, on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3 — notable as the first reuse of a New Glenn booster.
  • Anpanman relays hedge-fund commentator Kevin Mack's thesis that AST SpaceMobile could reach 'S-rank' cult-stock status comparable to Tesla or Palantir, where the market prices in optionality beyond core connectivity — including hosting AI data-center payloads (each satellite generating ~120 kilowatts of power, with FPGAs/ASICs onboard and potential future Nvidia GPU-class payloads) and Golden Dome-related defense/government use cases.
  • AST's market capitalization stood at roughly $45 billion at the time of the episode; Anpanman cites a Scotiabank analyst projection of roughly $11 billion in free cash flow by around 2030-2031 as an illustration of how far bulls see the stock potentially re-rating.
  • Anpanman describes short sellers and vocal bears (citing Kerrisdale/a similarly-named short-report author, a SpaceX-employed critic named Philip Lyle, and a Twitter account called 'Tuck Capital') as having lost money or capitulated to long positions, arguing that smart money avoids shorting into a stock with this many upcoming catalysts and instead goes long ahead of the anticipated SpaceX IPO.
  • Anpanman frames 2026 as an inflection year for institutional ownership, pointing to Fidelity's ability to buy up to roughly 15% of a company's shares as an example of the scale of buying that could occur once FCC approval and further constellation/commercial-service milestones are achieved.

Detailed Discussion8 topics

Stock hits new all-time high of $124.32

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    Anpanman recounts tweeting around 6:10-6:15am that he had dreamed the stock would break $124 that day, after waking from broken sleep; the stock later hit an intraday high of $124.32 and closed at $121.23, both all-time highs.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman notes that the day's move represented roughly '6 market caps worth of AST back in 2024,' illustrating how much larger and less volatile (in percentage terms) the company has become.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman and Kook discussed after the close that a lot of company-specific risk has now been de-risked — e.g., losing one or two satellites today would not be a company-ending event, whereas losing BlueWalker 3 during the 2022-2023 period of financial-market uncertainty could have forced the company to raise capital at very bad terms.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman contrasts this rally with the 2022-2024 pattern where the stock would spike on a catalyst (e.g., BlueWalker 3 reaching orbit) and then give back the gains because the company was still too early-stage; he argues the stock is now behaving like a maturing company where positive catalysts sustain and 'step function' higher instead of round-tripping.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:34:48

    Since Trump signed an executive order on space superiority around the 2nd or 3rd week of December 2025 (AST was at $65 at the time), Anpanman says the stock's technical pattern shifted from three separate impulse moves to one continuous higher-highs/higher-lows channel.

FCC meeting and US market access approval outlook

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:20:02

    On January 23, 2026, AST SpaceMobile, AT&T, Verizon, FirstNet, and consultants Dave Marshak Group and RKF jointly met with the FCC — a rare instance of AT&T and Verizon (competitors) presenting a unified front alongside AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:20:02

    The public comment period on AST's US market/SCS application closed around October 6, 2025, with a short reply period running to roughly the second week of October; Anpanman notes a typical post-comment-period decision window is 2-3 months, putting expected FCC action around late January or the first half of February 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:30:46

    Anpanman highlights that attorneys/representatives, not principals like AT&T's John Stankey or Verizon's CEO, attended the January 23 meeting — in his view a positive sign, since senior-executive attendance late in a regulatory process usually signals something is going wrong.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:30:46

    The same day as the recording, AST sent a follow-up letter to the FCC responding to requests about interference limits, which Anpanman characterizes as the company 'tightening things up' ahead of a decision that could come within days to a couple of weeks.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman notes FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has publicly praised both Starlink and AST SpaceMobile and pushed for faster approvals and more freed-up spectrum for direct-to-device, which he reads as further evidence approval is coming soon; he also notes Starlink's own direct-to-device constellation was approved roughly a week or two before this recording.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    If granted, full FCC approval would let AST operate its full 248-satellite constellation without relying on Special Temporary Authority waivers, and would allow the company to turn on commercial service (subject to not causing interference) rather than just launch satellites.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman argues US approval will act as a global catalyst: regulators in Europe, Asia, and Africa look to the US framework as a template, so US approval should open the door to faster approvals internationally.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman says he can't predict the stock's immediate reaction to FCC approval — it could be up 20-30%, flat, or even sell off short-term — but views it as a huge positive over the medium-to-long term because it validates the company for institutions still waiting on the sidelines.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman notes Fidelity already holds a small position and cites the fact that funds like Fidelity can build positions up to roughly 15% of a company's outstanding shares as an example of the scale of buying that could follow FCC approval, similar to the sustained buying seen after the 2024 Verizon deal.

Upcoming satellite catalysts: Bluebird 6, Bluebird 7, and Batch 1/2

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    SpaceMob due-diligence trackers (citing 'Katzi,' who did similar tracking during BlueWalker 3) monitor satellite drag and orbit data to determine when a satellite has successfully unfolded/detumbled; for Block 2, the design uses a single large arm that unfolds in one direction (versus the two-arm, multi-direction unfold used on Block 1), which Anpanman says should be simpler and lower-risk.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Bluebird 6 (BB6)'s antenna unfolding is expected 'any moment'; there is speculation within SpaceMob that BB6 also has a tail-mounted solar array for extra power that may have already deployed, though the company has not confirmed this and Anpanman expects limited photo/video release given the proprietary unfolding mechanism.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:34:48

    Bluebird 7 is expected to launch no earlier than the end of February 2026, which in practice likely means early March (e.g., March 1-3) once weather and other factors are accounted for; it will launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3, notable as Blue Origin's first attempt to reuse a New Glenn booster.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Two additional batches of three Bluebirds each ('Batch 1' and 'Batch 2') are expected to ship to Florida for Falcon 9 launches; Anpanman attributes the shipment taking longer than expected to a backlog at Cape Canaveral, including a crewed Falcon 9 mission to the ISS and Starship launch preparations competing for payload-processing facilities.

Golden Dome, political trading, and the broader space economy

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman jokes about the likelihood of politicians such as Nancy Pelosi and Tommy Tuberville buying AST or other space names given momentum around Golden Dome and NDAA-related legislation, noting that politician trades are disclosed only on a delayed basis (in one case, disclosure came 100 days late with only a small fine).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:34:48

    Anpanman cites a McKinsey/Goldman Sachs study (shared by a SpaceMob member who works at a hedge fund) projecting the global space economy will grow to $1.8 trillion by 2035, up from $630 billion in 2023.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman observes that AST and Rocket Lab tend to trade in correlation as the two main 'newer space' proxies — Rocket Lab has moved from the 50s to around 89 (having touched 100) since the December executive order on space superiority.

Short sellers and market positioning ahead of the SpaceX IPO

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman describes a Twitter hedge-fund account (referenced as something like 'Century Old Ag Credit') that floated shorting AST, then reversed and said he would go long into the SpaceX IPO despite not believing in the company's fundamentals, which Anpanman cites as a sign smart money doesn't want to fight the sector's tailwinds.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    Anpanman recalls historical short sellers (a Kerrisdale/'Terrastale'-type report, and individuals he names as Philip Lyle, a SpaceX employee, and a critic he refers to as 'Tim Ferriss') as having largely lost or made only modest money shorting AST, with one firm's assets under management having dwindled.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:34:48

    Anpanman notes a Twitter account ('Tuck Capital') that appears to have shorted AST around $50 and again around $70 and is now down significantly, reinforcing his view that it's dangerous to short a name benefiting from powerful secular/sector tailwinds heading into the SpaceX IPO.

S-rank thesis: AI data centers and defense applications beyond connectivity

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman relays hedge-fund commentator Kevin Mack's framing that AST could reach 'S-rank' cult-stock status (an anime power-ranking analogy: D through A rank, with only a handful of S-rank), comparable to Tesla or Palantir, where valuation reflects long-term platform potential rather than near-term financials alone.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman compares AST to Nvidia (originally a niche gaming-GPU company that became central to the AI revolution) and to Tesla (more than an EV maker — robotaxis, and Musk's stated plan to halt Model S/X production by year-end to reallocate that line to building robots), arguing AST is similarly underappreciated beyond its 'connect a phone to satellite' use case.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman describes each BlueBird satellite as capable of generating about 120 kilowatts of power, with phased arrays/microns on the earth-facing side and solar panels on the outer side, built-in heat dissipation (a major constraint for AI data centers), and FPGAs currently onboard with ASICs being integrated starting in Q1, positioning the constellation as a potential host for future Nvidia GPUs or other AI/TPU-style chips.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman argues that once AST's constellation build-out is complete, its manufacturing capacity, trained workforce, automation, and patents for building 5-6 ton satellites could be repurposed for third-party satellite manufacturing deals (e.g., for Google, which currently partners on small CubeSats via Planet but would need a larger dedicated satellite builder), though he says it's unclear whether such deals would be a one-time build or generate ongoing operator/service revenue.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:51:41

    Anpanman notes the company is at roughly 500,000 square feet of manufacturing floor space (with more being added) and is already producing at a cadence of about 6 satellites per month per recent FCC filings (not yet publicly acknowledged by the company), with Scott Wisniewski having talked about ramping to 10-12 satellites per month, driven partly by pulling forward the mid-band constellation and partly by a separate 'government shell' of satellites.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman pushes back on bears who value AST off last quarter's reported $14 million of revenue, arguing serious investors price growth/platform companies (comparing AST to biotech, SMRs, or quantum computing names) off future TAM and cash flow potential rather than trailing results, citing a Scotiabank analyst projection of roughly $11 billion in free cash flow by around 2030-2031 — a figure someone noted would put AST in the top 10 of all public companies by free cash flow.

SpaceX IPO and institutional positioning

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman says Elon Musk reportedly wants to pull the SpaceX IPO forward to around June 2026 (to align with his birthday and unspecified planetary timing), which would require a fast SEC review of the S-1 given Musk's closeness to the administration; if not June, Anpanman expects July, and says the company could still pull off a successful IPO in August, though August/September offerings are typically avoided due to lower investor availability.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman argues TMT/growth investors who want SpaceX/Starlink exposure but can't get it will increasingly view AST — now at roughly $45 billion market cap — as the pure-play way to gain exposure to the space theme, creating 'schmuck insurance'-style buying pressure (funds not wanting to be seen missing the name), similar to quarter-end momentum buying/selling in other big winners and losers.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:51:41

    Anpanman cites an unnamed institutional investor on Twitter who bought AST via VWAP around $104-105 (an all-time high at the time) and explained the purchase as 'it's interesting now, I've got to own it' — illustrating the shift toward institutional must-own buying he expects to continue.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:51:41

    Anpanman references Viasat receiving a $188 million Ex-Im loan from the US government to build one satellite (announced the day before this recording) as context for AST's own pending application for a $500 million facility, though he is unsure whether AST's application is for satellites or manufacturing; he expects a response to be 'somewhat ripe.'

Personal portfolio management and politics disclaimer

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  • Anpanman Untagged 00:20:02

    Anpanman states AST SpaceMobile makes up roughly 85% or more of his public-securities portfolio, and explains he maintains a concentrated portfolio of only 5-7 sized positions plus occasional trades in other names (e.g., T1 Energy, Bridger) partly to avoid the psychological trap of over-fixating on every daily tick in a single stock.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:20:02

    Anpanman explains he deliberately avoids sharing political opinions on Twitter/X, framing his account as focused on investing, and says SpaceMob community spaces (including private chats/Discord) generally avoid political discussion except where policy/legislation directly affects the investment thesis.

Watch Items6

  • FCC decision on AST's US market access / SCS constellation application

    Expected around late January to first half of February 2026, based on a typical 2-3 month post-comment-period window; Anpanman says it could come within days to a couple of weeks of the recording Anpanman 00:20:02
  • Bluebird 6 antenna array unfolding

    Expected 'any moment' / imminently Anpanman 00:34:48
  • Bluebird 7 launch on Blue Origin New Glenn 3

    No earlier than end of February 2026, likely slipping to early March Anpanman 00:34:48
  • Shipment of Batch 1 and Batch 2 (two sets of three Bluebirds) to Cape Canaveral for Falcon 9 launches

    Expected soon, delayed by Cape Canaveral payload-processing backlog Anpanman 00:34:48
  • SpaceX IPO

    Possibly June 2026 (Musk's preferred timing), otherwise July or August 2026 Anpanman 00:51:41
  • AST's pending ~$500 million Ex-Im loan application

    No specific date given; described as 'somewhat ripe,' expects to hear back Anpanman 00:51:41

Open Questions5

  • How will the stock react in the immediate term once FCC approval of the US market/SCS application is granted — up sharply, flat, or a sell-the-news dip?

    Anpanman 00:34:48
  • Will Bluebird 7 launch by the end of February as targeted, or slip into early March given weather sensitivity and Cape Canaveral manifest congestion?

    Anpanman 00:34:48
  • What business model would AST use if it built satellites for third parties like Google for AI-data-center applications — a one-time build-and-hand-over, or an ongoing operator/service-revenue relationship?

    Anpanman 00:51:41
  • Whether AST's pending ~$500 million Ex-Im loan application is intended for satellite production or manufacturing infrastructure.

    Anpanman 00:51:41
  • Exact timing of the SpaceX IPO (June, July, or August 2026) and how it will affect capital flows into AST as a proxy investment.

    Anpanman 00:51:41
2026-01-26 51:07

Kook's Weekly, January 25 - Terawave Theories, FCC Green Lights, and The Flaw in the Bear Case

Kook

In this Kook's Weekly solo episode (Jan 25), Kook argues that 'knowing what you own' is the best defense against macro-driven price whipsaws.

He then walks through the upcoming FM2 SDA satellite launch on New Glenn, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr's enthusiasm for direct-to-device and imminent SCS approval, and why Blue Origin's new TerraWave orbital data-transport constellation is complementary to (not competitive with) ASTS rather than a threat.

Kook rebuts telecom exec Peter Adderton's bear thesis that ASTS's white-label/MNO-partnership model is inferior to Starlink's consumer brand, arguing the MNO distribution model is actually a monopoly advantage akin to owning the App Store.

The episode closes with analyst commentary (Scotiabank persistently bearish vs. Deutsche Bank's upgrade to $137 and ClearStreet's matching target), news of Starlink DTC executive departures and continued Starship test failures, and reflections on the 'Space Mob' community via a Crossroads Capital report.

Key Takeaways

  • Kook (solo host of Kook's Weekly) argues that short-term ASTS price whipsaws are usually driven by macro noise (tariffs, geopolitics, government shutdown fears) rather than company fundamentals, and that investors who deeply understand what they own are less likely to panic-sell or get shaken out by stop losses.
  • AST SpaceMobile's second SDA/HALO test satellite, FM2, is set to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket (New Glenn is 2-for-2 so far but still working toward full certification); Kook says a launch anomaly would now only be a 'minor nuisance' rather than catastrophic, unlike earlier in the company's history when a failed BlueWalker 3 or Block 1 launch could have been existential.
  • FCC Chairman Brendan Carr said he is 'geeking out' over direct-to-device (D2D/D2C) technology and wants it to 'flourish in America first'; Kook says the FCC is quickly turning comments on ASTS's license-modification application, signaling imminent approval of the full constellation, which he calls a global 'green light' that other countries' regulators (e.g., Nigeria) tend to follow.
  • Kook rebuts Boost Mobile founder and Mobile X founder Peter Adderton's criticism that ASTS's white-label, MNO-partnership ('B2B') strategy is inferior to Starlink's consumer-brand approach, arguing direct-to-consumer models are crippled by massive customer acquisition costs (he cites Iridium's D2C bankruptcy as a historical precedent) and that ASTS's exclusive MNO partnerships (e.g., with AT&T) function like owning the App Store — an unmatched distribution advantage.
  • Blue Origin announced a new 'TerraWave' orbital data-transport backbone (5,300 LEO satellites plus 128 Middle Earth Orbit satellites) aimed at moving large data volumes between fixed endpoints (data centers, government/enterprise use); Kook argues this is not a competitor to ASTS but likely complementary, noting frequency overlap with ASTS's own links and timing that coincides with the cancellation of the SpaceX-built MilNet government data-transport program.
  • Deutsche Bank raised its ASTS price target from $81 to $137 and models roughly $200 million of government/other revenue in 2027, while Scotiabank has repeatedly published bearish notes; ClearStreet separately issued a matching $137 price target.
  • Starlink's direct-to-cell division is seeing key executive departures — Ben Longmire (CEO of Starlink's DTC business) and Sarah Spangelo (from the Swarm days) have both left — which Kook views as confirmation of execution problems at Starlink's D2D unit, while SpaceX's Starship program suffered another testing failure.

Detailed Discussion11 topics

Market volatility and 'knowing what you own'

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:29

    Kook opens by noting positive sentiment on ASTS has been high recently, which is usually when random macro whipsaws (e.g., yen moves, tariff headlines, government shutdown news) hit hardest; he stresses that investors, especially newer ones still doing diligence, need to study the company carefully so they don't mistake unrelated macro/industry-expert news for company-specific bad news.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook warns that stop losses have cost some investors money during these short-term price movements, reiterating that understanding what you own is the best defense against panic selling.

FM2 launch and de-risking of launch anomalies

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:29

    FM2 is AST SpaceMobile's second SDA (Space Development Agency) HALO-award test satellite; as an awardee of the Halo Award prototype program, the company committed to send up two test satellites (FM1, already launched, and now FM2) to demonstrate capabilities to the government.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:29

    FM1 launched on an ISRO launcher and FM2 will launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn; New Glenn is 2-for-2 (batting 1,000%) so far but is still in the process of gaining full rocket certification, making it somewhat riskier than a typical Falcon 9 launch.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook believes FM1 and FM2 are primarily testing the satellite 'bus' and carry government payloads rather than being part of the main commercial communication constellation, which instead begins with Batch 1 and shortly after Batch 2.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook argues the risk profile of a launch failure has changed dramatically over the company's history: a failed BlueWalker 3 launch would have been catastrophic (company likely couldn't have raised money and could have gone bankrupt); a failed Block 1 launch would have put the company at extreme risk; but today, any anomaly with a single satellite is just a 'minor nuisance' given the company's financial and operational wherewithal, and he personally would not sell his position over such an event.

FCC regulatory momentum and global 'green light' effect

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  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:29

    FCC Chairman Brendan Carr said he is 'geeking out' over direct-to-device technology, referenced 'truly high-speed service' (which Kook says specifically refers to AST SpaceMobile), called it part of his tenure's legacy, said the FCC will open up spectrum, and said he wants D2D to 'flourish in America first.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Beyond the chairman's words, the FCC has been quickly turning comments on ASTS's license-modification application this week, which Kook takes as an action-based signal that full constellation market-access approval is coming soon, and that this approval is likely to be timed around the Batch 1 shipment date, which he says 'could be any day now,' though he isn't sure there's a grand plan behind the timing.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook believes the market has already priced in a high probability of FCC approval, so the approval itself may not be major news to him personally, though it remains a big fundamental accomplishment; he contrasts this with Golden Dome, which he sees as not yet reflected in the stock price and as having more potential to be a step-change in revenue expectations, since FCC approval mainly increases certainty of achieving already-expected revenue rather than raising the revenue expectation itself.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook expects other countries, including Nigeria, Australia, the EU, and the UK, to launch their own D2D regulatory consultations/frameworks over the next year, following the FCC's lead, making US FCC approval effectively a global green light for D2D adoption.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:29

    Kook recalls that the company originally planned an equatorial constellation (matching early FCC filings) before subsequently changing course, and that in his early diligence he mistakenly thought other countries' approvals could take precedence over the FCC; the company corrected him, stressing FCC approval is crucial since the US is the largest, deepest telecom market and not operating there would be a significant impairment of value, even though the company would still have a business elsewhere.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:00:29

    Kook recounts that analyst/critic Tim Farrar was previously adamant ASTS would never get FCC approval and that a European framework would take a decade — claims Kook says have been proven completely wrong — and frames the stock's move from below $10 to the $100+ range as reflecting the de-risking of regulatory, financial, operating-execution, and technology risk factors.

Evolution of the bear case and market sentiment

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:29

    Kook argues that as the 'it will never get approved' bear thesis has been discredited, short sellers have shifted their argument to 'it will work and get approved, but the market isn't big,' which he says was the expected next phase of bear dialogue; he notes that historically, hedge fund short sellers who lose conviction often flip to going long rather than merely covering, though he acknowledges he personally has never done so himself.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:29

    Kook describes a Friday dip that made him briefly anxious before reminding himself the stock was at $115, referencing ongoing debate in the community about whether the 'Kook bottom' (a sentiment indicator tied to his own emotional reactions to drawdowns) is still valid.

Rebutting Peter Adderton's white-label bear thesis

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  • Kook Speculation 00:15:27

    Peter Adderton, founder of Boost Mobile and founder of Mobile X, has been publicly critical of the 'space mob,' arguing ASTS's white-label B2B strategy is fundamentally flawed compared to Starlink's consumer-brand approach; when asked by 'King Tut' why he spends time trolling retail investors, Adderton reportedly said he has a great team so has plenty of spare time.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:30

    Kook argues Adderton's comparison misses that Starlink built its consumer brand with fixed broadband, not with direct-to-cell (DTC); standard direct-to-consumer (D2C) companies are often crippled by customer acquisition costs, which Kook estimates can eat 60-70% of gross margin, whereas Starlink largely avoided this because Elon Musk functioned as a uniquely effective one-man marketing engine requiring minimal paid advertising.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:30

    Kook argues true D2C for satellite-to-phone service isn't practically possible because a phone must be tied to one core network, so an operator would have to replace the MNO entirely — commercially and technically impractical given the enormous capital intensity and customer acquisition costs required (citing the MNOs' heavy advertising and phone-subsidy spending as evidence of how expensive customer acquisition is).

  • Kook Confirmed 00:15:30

    Kook cites the Iridium IPO/business as a historical precedent for an integrated, direct-to-consumer satellite phone strategy — Iridium went bankrupt due to how expensive it was to acquire customers directly.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:15:30

    Kook notes that Starlink itself does not go direct-to-consumer for its own D2D product — it partners with T-Mobile — which he says undercuts Adderton's argument.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:30

    Kook likens ASTS's exclusive MNO partnerships (e.g., AT&T) to owning the App Store: to an AT&T subscriber, ASTS will be the only option for this type of satellite service, giving ASTS an effective distribution monopoly across the largest MNOs globally, which he calls the actual advantage that generates the money, superior to Adderton's brand argument.

  • Kook Speculation 00:15:30

    Kook says he personally hopes AST SpaceMobile still develops its own consumer-facing brand identity (referencing a concept like 'Red A' branding with AT&T) so the service isn't fully invisible to end users, similar to how T-Mobile customers know they're using Starlink; he says this optionality matters for the future even though it isn't critical to the business model.

Blue Origin's TerraWave constellation and connections to canceled government programs

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:28:22

    Blue Origin announced a new constellation called TerraWave (distinct from Amazon's Kuiper) — a space-based data-transport backbone designed to move large volumes of data between fixed endpoints (e.g., data centers, government/enterprise users), not for connecting mobile end users like a truck-driving tweeter.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:28:22

    TerraWave is planned to have a 5,300-satellite LEO layer for network access plus a 128-satellite Middle Earth Orbit (MEO) layer providing faster long-haul transport, analogous to local roads feeding into a highway.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    When TerraWave was announced this week, the ASTS stock initially gapped down as some investors feared Blue Origin was building a competitor; Kook argues this is incorrect and that TerraWave is likely complementary, not competitive, to ASTS, and could actually increase Blue Origin's New Glenn launch demand (alongside Kuiper, ASTS, and Golden Dome business), which Blue Origin itself has specifically highlighted as part of its book of business.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook connects TerraWave's announcement to the recent cancellation of MilNet, a government-operated, SpaceX-built constellation intended to provide data transport services; he says the funding instead moved to the PWSA (Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture), the broader umbrella program ASTS operates under, and speculates this reflects diversification away from SpaceX toward AST SpaceMobile, especially combined with Jeff Bezos and Abel Avellan's public congratulatory exchange.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook says community member 'Katzi' found that TerraWave's frequencies match ASTS's frequencies, suggesting technical compatibility between the two systems, and that ASTS already has relevant pieces in place (optical inter-satellite laser links, DC service links, PLM/eNodeB on satellite, and large Q/V-band feeders) that could support a military/government backhaul partnership with Blue Origin, though he notes speculation of a Blue Origin co-investment in ASTS has not materialized.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook acknowledges the Space Mob community has generally been right about these kinds of speculative connections over the past five years, with one likely exception: speculation that ASTS was connected to the classified NROL-69 program, which he now believes was probably wrong.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:28:24

    Kook mentions skeptics ('FUDsters') questioning whether Blue Origin can technically build TerraWave's complex system, including Q/V-band scalability, but says he tends to believe Blue Origin has figured it out and that it isn't ASTS's problem to solve either way.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Citing community member 'Theodorus the Atheist,' Kook speculates that once high-throughput links like TerraWave exist, the natural next step could be placing data centers in space themselves, calling this a 'gradual then sudden' trend, though he cautions the economics don't yet obviously work.

Golden Dome, Greenland, and canceled RGPS program

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  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook revisits recent controversy over his comments on a US-Greenland deal, saying Trump secured real estate in Greenland (important for polar orbits) that will be tied to Golden Dome interceptor and ground-system infrastructure, framing it as a further sign Golden Dome is taking concrete shape.

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook notes the cancellation of RGPS, a Space Force GPS-resilience program, and speculates this reflects the Space Force choosing to harmonize GPS-resilience needs with commercial systems like SpaceX and AST SpaceMobile instead of a dedicated program, which he sees as expanding ASTS's total addressable market by letting it monetize otherwise-idle capacity (e.g., over regions where GPS could be denied).

  • Kook Speculation 00:28:24

    Kook references a post by community member 'Tough4R' (titled 'Remember Monday, Golden Dome...') breaking down possible Golden Dome timelines, and mentions the MDA 'Noble' Award accelerated procurement process (discussed the prior week) that can compress typical decade-long procurement timelines to roughly two to three years.

Analyst coverage: Scotiabank bearish vs. Deutsche Bank and ClearStreet

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  • Kook Disagreement 00:43:44

    Kook criticizes a Scotiabank analyst ('Andres') for publishing a bearish note on MLK Day (when US markets were closed) and for repeatedly publishing negative notes on ASTS on multiple dates (the 6th, 13th, 14th, 16th, and 19th), joking the analyst may have sold a call option and is hoping the stock stays below the strike.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Deutsche Bank raised its ASTS price target from $81 to $137 and, in the same report, modeled government/other revenue reaching approximately $200 million in 2027 (per an ASTS-investor-created infographic summarizing the report); Kook calls the $200M figure a 'finger in the air' estimate but says it could prove too low.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Deutsche Bank's report also projects 47 BlueBirds in orbit by year end and includes a longer-term out-year price target of $672; Kook notes Deutsche Bank's price-target history includes prior targets of $22 and $121 that were both later hit.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:43:44

    ClearStreet separately issued a price target of $137, identical to Deutsche Bank's revised target, which Kook found notably coincidental.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Kook disagrees with commentary suggesting five satellite launches are likely by Q1 (March 31); he personally thinks it would be a surprise to see five launches by then, expecting a New Glenn launch around early March plus possibly one Batch 1/Batch 2 launch (about four launches total), but says the exact quarterly launch count doesn't matter much as long as Batch 1 ships and Batch 2 follows in a reasonable time and production cadence syncs with launch availability.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Kook frames his own valuation approach around large step-function price levels ($50, $100, $150, $200 stock) rather than short-term quarterly launch-count noise, which he considers largely irrelevant to long-term thesis validity.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:44

    Kook mentions community member 'Katzi' found that eVTOL company Joby's telemetry-testing filings fall within the same spectrum bands ASTS operates in, citing it as an example of unforeseen future use cases (like eVTOLs and connected cars, referencing an Indian program linking cars to see around corners) that could expand ASTS's addressable market beyond current expectations.

  • Kook Speculation 00:43:47

    Kook pushes back on accusations that the Space Mob community are 'paid pumpers,' stating no one he knows receives compensation from the company for promoting the stock, and instead calls major investment banks underwriting SpaceX's IPO (Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley) the real 'paid pumpers,' alleging some banks (except Bank of America) have avoided covering or mentioning ASTS to avoid upsetting Elon Musk ahead of the lucrative SpaceX IPO fees.

Starlink executive departures and Starship setbacks

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:44:34

    Ben Longmire, CEO of Starlink's direct-to-cell (DTC) business, has left the company; Kook frames this as a sign of internal problems within Starlink's DTC unit, suggesting Elon Musk likely pushed him out due to underperformance.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:44:35

    Sarah Spangelo, who had been with the DTC effort since the Swarm Technologies days, has also left Starlink, adding to Kook's view that SpaceX is undertaking a wholesale overhaul of its DTC business, which he views as bullish for AST SpaceMobile by comparison.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:44:35

    SpaceX's Starship program suffered another failure during testing, adding to a long list of challenges; Kook contrasts Elon Musk's fast-iteration approach (which he says may be hitting technical limits at Starship's scale) with Jeff Bezos's more incremental, step-by-step approach at Blue Origin, noting SpaceX has caught the booster but still hasn't gotten the full integrated Starship system to work reliably.

Space Mob community reflections (Crossroads Capital report)

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  • Kook Untagged 00:49:56

    Kook discusses a report from Crossroads Capital describing the 'Space Mob' community's history and characterizing it as a unique, market-driven expert network distinct from traditional paid Wall Street expert networks, since Space Mob participants have personal capital ('skin in the game') at risk rather than being paid consultants offering dated, commodified perspectives.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:49:56

    Kook recalls that he initially reached out to Anpanman early in his own Space Mob involvement and was ignored/'iced,' before the two eventually became friends; he confirms he holds a long position in ASTS in response to accusations (including from 'Dr. Schlaberberger') that he is a paid pumper.

Closing remarks

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  • Kook Speculation 00:49:56

    Kook closes by warning of potential continued volatility ahead (citing risks like another government shutdown or Iran strikes) and advises listeners not to be tricked by macro-driven volatility or FUD — sell only if you don't like the stock on its own merits, and consider that volatility can also present buying opportunities.

Watch Items8

  • FM2 (second SDA/HALO test satellite) launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn

    Not specified beyond upcoming; New Glenn is 2-for-2 on prior launches Kook 00:00:29
  • FCC approval of ASTS's full license-modification application for the constellation

    Expected soon, possibly timed around the Batch 1 shipment date ('any day now') Kook 00:00:29
  • Batch 1 satellite shipment

    "Could be any day now" per Kook Kook 00:00:29
  • New Glenn launch (carrying additional BlueBirds/related payload)

    Probably early March Kook 00:43:44
  • Possible Batch 1/Batch 2 satellite launch

    Kook doubts 5 total launches happen by Q1 (March 31); expects around 4 launches by then Kook 00:43:44
  • Deutsche Bank's projection of 47 BlueBirds in orbit

    By year end (2026) Kook 00:43:44
  • Golden Dome program milestones per Tough4R's timeline breakdown and the MDA 'Noble' accelerated procurement process

    Procurement could compress from a decade to roughly 2-3 years Kook 00:28:24
  • Other countries' D2D regulatory consultations (e.g., Nigeria, Australia, EU, UK) following the FCC's approval

    Over the next year Kook 00:00:29

Open Questions6

  • Will FM2 launch successfully on New Glenn, and if not, will the market correctly treat it as a minor setback rather than a major risk event?

    Kook 00:00:29
  • Will the FCC's approval of ASTS's constellation license-modification application be a meaningful positive catalyst for the stock price, given that much of the probability may already be priced in?

    Kook 00:00:29
  • Is there a specific commercial arrangement (beyond the New Glenn launch agreement) between Blue Origin and AST SpaceMobile — e.g., a co-investment or a formal military/government backhaul partnership leveraging TerraWave — that has not yet been publicly confirmed?

    Kook 00:28:24
  • Can Blue Origin technically deliver on TerraWave's complex system requirements, including Q/V-band scalability, as some skeptics have questioned?

    Kook 00:28:24
  • Why is Scotiabank's analyst persistently bearish and publishing notes so frequently — does the analyst have an undisclosed financial position (e.g., a short call option) driving the behavior?

    Kook 00:43:44
  • Will the company hit 47 BlueBirds in orbit by year end as Deutsche Bank projects, and will production cadence successfully sync with launch availability across Batch 1 and Batch 2?

    Kook 00:43:44
2026-01-22 24:03

Anpanman - Wake & Bake: Bluebird 7 Confirmed on New Glenn, Tera Wave FUD

Anpanman

In this solo 'Wake and Bake' episode, Anpanman covers two pieces of AST SpaceMobile news: BlueBird 7 (FM2) is now officially confirmed to launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn flight 3 around the end of February 2026.

He also debunks a stock-selloff scare tied to Blue Origin's newly announced 'Tera Wave' enterprise satellite constellation. He argues it is not a competitor to ASTS and may instead become a Golden Dome backbone layer that AST's satellites interface with.

He closes with a bullish market outlook, citing a broken chart pattern, an accelerating launch cadence, and the rumored July 2026 SpaceX IPO. He also discloses his own recent stock and options purchases.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile's BlueBird 7 (FM2), an SDA HALO satellite, is officially confirmed to launch aboard Blue Origin's New Glenn flight 3, with Anpanman targeting roughly the end of February 2026, potentially within days of NASA's Artemis moon mission.
  • New Glenn flight 3 is also strategically important for Blue Origin, which needs four successful launches to win Department of Defense certification for New Glenn; this would be its third.
  • Anpanman says the SpaceMob community (via due diligence starting as early as Q4 2025) correctly predicted months in advance that BlueBird 7/FM2 would fly on New Glenn 3, reaching near-100% confidence by the end of last year before official confirmation.
  • Anpanman debunks a stock selloff driven partly by AI-generated headlines about Blue Origin's newly announced 'Tera Wave' satellite constellation, explaining it targets high-end enterprise, data-center, and government customers using Q/V-band RF (144 Gbps symmetrical) and optical links (6 Tbps) that cannot connect to ordinary unmodified phones, so it does not compete with AST SpaceMobile's direct-to-device business.
  • A SpaceMob community member known as Katzi speculates that Tera Wave could become a backbone data layer for the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative, with AST's dual-use or specialized government satellites handling missile sensing/tracking, position-navigation-timing (PNT), electronic warfare (spoofing/jamming), and communications to warfighters and drones — explicitly framed as speculation, not a confirmed plan.
  • Anpanman says a recent FCC filing disclosed AST SpaceMobile is now running a production cadence of 6 satellites per month.
  • Anpanman expects AST's Q4 2025 earnings call around early March 2026, guessing March 3 (matching last year's call date), and anticipates it will cover Golden Dome updates and possibly a new definitive customer agreement.
  • Anpanman argues the stock's prior repeating 'impulse' chart pattern (spike, small pullback, higher spike, repeated roughly four times) has broken to the upside, and sees a bullish setup into the summer of 2026 driven by rising launch cadence, Golden Dome catalysts, and increased investor attention ahead of a rumored SpaceX IPO targeted for July 2026.
  • Anpanman disclosed buying 5,000 ASTS shares during a recent pullback and 250 July $150/$180 call spreads (paying roughly $3.80-$4.20 per spread on a $30-wide spread), describing these as speculative trades separate from a core position he doesn't touch; some of the specific purchase prices he cited appeared internally inconsistent in the recording.
  • AST SpaceMobile is targeting 5 orbital launches by the end of March 2026, and Anpanman expects another batch of 3 BlueBird satellites to ship to Cape Canaveral for a Falcon 9 launch roughly a week or two after the New Glenn 3 mission, though SpaceX pad congestion could cause some delay.

Detailed Discussion5 topics

BlueBird 7 / New Glenn 3 launch confirmation

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    BlueBird 7 is officially confirmed to launch aboard Blue Origin's New Glenn 3; a firmer date is still to come but it looks like the end of February 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    There's a decent chance NASA's Artemis moon mission (astronauts orbiting the moon and returning, ahead of a later landing mission) launches in the second half of February 2026 as well, potentially within 2-4 days of the New Glenn/BlueBird 7 launch, giving shareholders a chance to see both missions close together.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    BlueBird 6 (FM1) and BlueBird 7 (FM2) are both SDA HALO satellites, which is why it makes sense for BlueBird 7 to fly on New Glenn: Blue Origin is trying to get New Glenn certified for Department of Defense work and needs 4 successful launches to qualify, with this being its 3rd.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    As with the Block 1 launch, the company will likely run a signup process for shareholders to attend the launch viewing, but invites this time will probably be more rationed (his guess: roughly a third Blue Origin/government guests to two-thirds SpaceMob, or possibly half-half) versus the Block 1 SpaceX Falcon 9 launch where nearly everyone who signed up got an invite; attendees don't need a formal viewing-area seat, since the rocket is visible from anywhere in the Cape area for several miles.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:25

    The SpaceMob community's due diligence correctly called BlueBird 7/FM2 going on New Glenn 3 as early as Q4 2025, with confidence rising to nearly 100% by the end of last year before today's official confirmation; he credits contributors including Katzi, Cook, Tut, Kevin Chen, Tanner, and Redrum, and floated the idea of publishing a list of accounts to follow for new investors.

Tera Wave FUD debunked

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    The stock sold off heavily yesterday, partly driven by AI-generated ('AI slop') headlines, on fear that Blue Origin's newly announced 'Tera Wave' constellation would compete with AST SpaceMobile — a fear he says is unfounded.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    Tera Wave is a Blue Origin constellation in low and medium Earth orbit aimed at high-end enterprise, data-center, and government customers, offering symmetrical download/upload speeds of 144 gigabits per second via Q/V-band RF and up to 6 terabits per second via optical links — spectrum and power requirements that cannot connect to ordinary unmodified mobile phones, unlike AST's cellular-band architecture.

  • Anpanman Untagged 00:00:25

    He cites an account called Mega Constellations, which wrote that given the claimed throughput, each Tera Wave satellite would likely only serve a handful of customers at a time.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:25

    A SpaceMob community member known as Katzi noted that Tera Wave uses Q/V band — the same bands AST's own gateway/feeder antennas can point up into space with — and speculated that Tera Wave could become a Golden Dome backbone data layer, with AST's composite or specialized government satellites interfacing with it to handle missile-launch sensing/detection and tracking, position-navigation-timing (PNT), electronic warfare (spoofing, jamming), and communications to warfighters, drones, and other assets on the ground.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:01

    Anpanman says he independently found it odd that Tera Wave would use optical links and Q/V band for direct uplink/downlink to ground customers, since that requires a strong tracking antenna on the customer's end — but it makes much more sense as a backbone connecting to other satellites, which supports Katzi's theory.

Chart pattern and market outlook

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:01

    The stock had previously followed a repeating '1-2-3 impulse' chart pattern (spike up, small pullback, bigger spike, pullback, smaller spike, cool off) roughly four times, but the current move has broken that pattern, with each impulse now bigger than the last.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:01

    He attributes the pattern break to the company now pursuing Golden Dome business (changing the overall company story) plus a shift from one launch every several months/a year to launches roughly every month to month-and-a-half.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    Elon Musk has targeted SpaceX going public by July 2026; Anpanman expects that as institutional investors research the space sector ahead of that IPO, it will draw new investment interest and speculative capital into the whole sector, benefiting AST SpaceMobile.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    He believes the setup for ASTS heading into summer 2026 is very bullish given ongoing launch catalysts, potential Golden Dome awards (e.g., via SHIELD, and speculatively via a program he calls NOBL), and rising sector attention; he suggests a prior end-of-year stock price guess of $200-300 could be reached sooner than expected.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    He mentions one of the largest financial publications is currently writing a story about the SpaceMob community and AST SpaceMobile, and relays an anecdote about two real-estate attorneys at his recent New York property closing who quickly grasped the AST SpaceMobile pitch (one had experienced poor existing satellite phone service on T-Mobile) and, he believes, likely bought shares afterward — offered as evidence of growing mainstream awareness.

Launch cadence and upcoming batches

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:11:01

    A separate batch of 3 BlueBird satellites is expected to ship down to Cape Canaveral for a SpaceX Falcon 9 launch, possibly as soon as this week or next week, with the Falcon 9 launch itself expected roughly a week or two after the New Glenn 3 mission; SpaceX currently has only one active pad and a backlog integrating payloads into fairings, which could cause some delay.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:14:55

    The company is targeting 5 orbital launches by the end of March 2026; he says it will likely be close, counting the New Glenn/BlueBird 7 mission plus another batch expected shortly after, and it's unclear whether the 5th will land just before or shortly after the March deadline — though he notes a slip of a few weeks or months doesn't matter much given the buildout is inevitable.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:14:55

    A recent FCC filing disclosed that AST SpaceMobile is now at a production cadence of 6 satellites per month.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    He expects AST's Q4 2025 earnings call in early March 2026, guessing March 3rd since that matches last year's call date (per Bloomberg's estimate); he expects the call to cover Golden Dome progress and possibly a new definitive customer agreement, alongside updates on satellite batches shipped to the Cape and the completed BlueBird 7/New Glenn launch.

Anpanman's personal trading disclosure

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    Anpanman disclosed buying 5,000 ASTS shares during yesterday's pullback; he described purchase prices during the dip as around $198, then separately said he bought some shares at $101 and the rest at $98 — the figures were inconsistent/unclear in his account and should be treated as uncertain rather than smoothed.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:14:55

    He also bought 250 of the July $150/$180 call spreads, paying roughly $3.80 to $4.20 per spread on a $30-wide spread, calling it highly speculative and saying options should be assumed a total loss; this was part of a separate speculative trading allocation distinct from a core position he doesn't touch.

Watch Items7

  • BlueBird 7 (FM2) launch aboard Blue Origin New Glenn flight 3

    End of February 2026 (firmer date still pending) Anpanman 00:00:25
  • NASA Artemis moon mission launch

    Possibly second half of February 2026 Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Next batch of 3 BlueBird satellites shipped to Cape Canaveral

    As soon as this week or next week Anpanman 00:11:01
  • Falcon 9 launch of the next BlueBird batch

    Roughly a week or two after the New Glenn 3 launch Anpanman 00:14:55
  • Company target of 5 orbital launches

    By end of March 2026 Anpanman 00:14:55
  • AST SpaceMobile Q4 2025 earnings call

    Guessed for early March 2026, possibly March 3rd Anpanman 00:14:55
  • SpaceX IPO

    Targeted by July 2026 per Elon Musk Anpanman 00:14:55

Open Questions3

  • How exactly will Blue Origin/AST allocate the limited launch-viewing invitations for the New Glenn 3 launch (lottery versus selective invite), and what will the actual split between SpaceMob and Blue Origin/government guests be?

    Anpanman 00:00:25
  • Will AST SpaceMobile actually hit its target of 5 orbital launches by the end of March 2026 given SpaceX's single-pad backlog and fairing integration delays?

    Anpanman 00:14:55
  • Is Katzi's theory correct that Blue Origin's Tera Wave constellation will serve as a Golden Dome backbone data layer that AST's dual-use or government satellites interface with?

    Anpanman 00:11:01
2026-01-20 51:41

Kook's Weekly - January 19 - Golden Dome Confirmed, Blue Origin Synergies, and the Dual-Use Validation

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' recap, recorded Monday Jan 19, 2026, Kook breaks down AST SpaceMobile's confirmation as a government contractor.

'AST SpaceMobile USA, LLC' appeared in the third tranche of the MDA SHIELD ('Golden Dome') contract list, followed by a company press release and a confirming tweet from Scott Wisniewski. He connects this to a likely Blue Origin New Glenn launch for the FM2 satellite.

He reviews evidence the company is now producing ~6 satellites/month, and argues this is the long-awaited 'official' validation of AST's dual-use (commercial + government) business model that de-risks the investment thesis.

He closes by addressing short-seller arguments, a theory that Elon Musk is pressuring banks to avoid covering ASTS, Rakuten's Mickey Mikitani leaving AST's board, and his broader 'secular trend' bull case for the stock reaching a $500B-$1T+ market cap.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile (ASTS) was confirmed as a government contractor after the entity 'AST SpaceMobile USA, LLC' appeared in the third tranche of contract recipients on the Missile Defense Agency's SHIELD program (part of the 'Golden Dome' missile defense initiative), discovered via Sam.gov on Thursday Jan 15, 2026, followed by an official AST press release the next day and a tweet from President Scott Wisniewski confirming a 'Golden Dome indefinite quantity contract.'
  • Kook believes being in the third tranche (rather than an earlier one) signals AST underwent deep vetting of unique/differentiated capabilities versus commodity providers typically placed in earlier tranches, per analysis he attributes to an X user 'Katsy.'
  • The stock rose roughly 10% the Thursday of the SAM.gov discovery and continued higher Friday on official confirmation, adding an estimated $8 billion in market cap; Kook personally estimates the underlying contract could be worth at least $1 billion, meaning the market priced the news at roughly 8x that revenue estimate.
  • Kook connects AST's FM2 satellite launch to Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket, noting New Glenn's third flight is one of four required to qualify Blue Origin for government launch business, and that Blue Origin's larger '9x4' ('Big Dog') rocket variant specifically named AST SpaceMobile and Golden Dome as clients in its marketing materials — though the specific FM2/New Glenn pairing is not officially confirmed by the company, only inferred from circumstantial and photographic evidence.
  • Company FCC filings show AST SpaceMobile is now producing satellites at a rate of approximately 6 per month from its Midland, Texas facility; Kook says this means the company is currently launch-constrained rather than production-constrained, with a more consistent launch cadence expected once New Glenn and other launch vehicles ramp up around May/June 2026.
  • Community reconnaissance by an X user going by 'Florida Salty Man' found that AST's previously-announced Homestead, Florida manufacturing site (located on a military base) is now under active construction ('no longer a pasture'), which Kook believes will add capacity aimed at government-related satellite production, separate from a new specialized-array building being added in Midland.
  • Mickey Mikitani (Rakuten) has left AST's board of directors; Kook frames this as routine governance mechanics tied to Rakuten's reduced ownership stake falling below the threshold specified in AST's investor rights agreement (from ATM sales and note conversions), and notes it is generally sound governance practice to remove a commercial partner/customer (an MNO) from a board given conflicts of interest.
  • Kook floats his own speculative idea that AST SpaceMobile could someday acquire Iridium to instantly gain a roughly $1 billion book of government business, additional global spectrum (he estimates ~12 MHz), and improved margins by transitioning Iridium's constellation onto AST's own — explicitly framed as his personal speculation and a debate he had with 'King Tut,' not something the company has indicated.
  • Kook theorizes (self-described as possibly 'lost his mind') that Elon Musk is pressuring investment banks to avoid covering ASTS positively ahead of a rumored SpaceX IPO, citing a coincident X/Twitter outage and Morgan Stanley's exclusion of ASTS from a space-sector industry report as circumstantial evidence — explicitly framed as his own cynical opinion, not confirmed fact.
  • Kook says AST continues to meet with the FCC and is 'getting pretty close' to full regulatory approval (Supplemental Coverage from Space market access) for its broader US satellite constellation, distinct from the Special Temporary Authorities (STAs) it currently operates under.
  • The EU's 2 GHz mobile satellite spectrum, currently used by Viasat and Echostar under licenses set to expire 'next year,' is entering a new allocation process; Kook believes Vodafone, via its SatCo joint venture with AST (structured to be fully European-controlled), is well-positioned to win that spectrum over SpaceX given EU skepticism about relying on SpaceX/Starlink.
  • Kook notes Abel Avellan has shown no meaningful insider selling — aside from a prepaid forward on a small portion of his shares, which he later rolled forward rather than letting the shares be called away — reinforcing Kook's view of Avellan as a fully committed, no-salary owner-operator.

Detailed Discussion13 topics

Golden Dome / MDA SHIELD Contract Confirmation

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Space Mob had been speculating, based on diligence rather than blind guessing, that ASTS would become a government contractor, and last week that speculation was confirmed.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:27

    On Thursday, Space Mob found 'AST SpaceMobile USA LLC' listed in the third tranche of recipients on Sam.gov related to the MDA SHIELD project; Anpanman was reportedly buying stock aggressively ('lifting offers') on the news.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:27

    The following day, AST put out a press release confirming they were part of the MDA SHIELD project, and Scott Wisniewski tweeted specifically confirming a 'Golden Dome indefinite quantity contract.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    The stock ripped about 10% on Thursday and moved further on Friday, adding roughly $8 billion of market cap around the news; Kook estimates a contract like this is worth at least about $1 billion, so the market pricing it at roughly 8x that revenue estimate struck him as fairly rational, though he expects shorts to disagree.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:27

    Kook stresses what was actually announced is that AST was 'picked to get' Golden Dome (added to the approved vendor pool) — a 'license to hunt' — not a specific named task order with a disclosed dollar amount or defined scope.

Analysis of the SHIELD Contract Tranche and Use Cases

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Citing analysis from X user 'Katsy,' Kook argues that being placed in the third (later) tranche of SHIELD recipients indicates deeper vetting of unique, differentiated capabilities, whereas commodity-type vendors tend to land in the earlier tranches.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook cites ITU filings showing AST's orbital plan includes sun-synchronous orbit shells (not needed for commercial service) and satellites at lower, staggered altitudes, which he and others believe point to Position, Navigation, and Tracking (PNT)-type government applications, plus roles in a 'transport layer' (moving data around in space) and a 'custody layer' (tracking identified assets such as mobile missile launchers).

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Citing an AI-generated analysis from 'S&J Investments,' Kook says the SHIELD contract gives AST access to a shared $151 billion government funding pool, the ability to skip 18-month procurement cycles for rapid contract awards, and an official designation as critical dual-use infrastructure.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    A contributor called 'the Spectator' highlighted Fairwinds posts referencing AST's engagement with the US Armed Services, Space Force, Air Force, Army, and Navy, including militarized AST broadband devices and AST tactical hub systems.

Dual-Use Revenue Model Validation

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook admits that being 'too close' to a stock (having long believed something would happen) can make you numb to how big a confirmation event actually is — he personally wasn't surprised by Golden Dome and didn't buy more shares after the news, which he says was the wrong mindset.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook relays that Anpanman pointed out this is the official validation of the dual-use (commercial + government) revenue model that skeptics previously dismissed ('the clueless cult'), representing a material de-risking event for investors on the sidelines and opening a new stream of total addressable market, comparable to how SpaceX's Starshield validated a similar opportunity.

  • Kook Untagged 00:00:27

    Kook notes the company had already been discussing government work for 6-7 quarters, including the DIU award and the Halo award, but investors remained skeptical until this SHIELD confirmation.

NOBLE Contract Opportunity

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook flags the MDA's NOBLE contract (Nimble Options for Buying Layered Effects) — a flexible acquisition vehicle/wrapper allowing the government to buy technology quickly — as a potentially large opportunity that some in Space Mob (e.g., Kevin Chen) have focused on, but which Kook admits he hasn't researched much and hasn't included in his due-diligence doc.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook notes Anpanman tweeted about the NOBLE contract this week (with a Cerberus/globe image), describing it as an 'open invitation' that could be awarded at any time and could expand AST's technology into additional, mostly non-communication, use cases.

Manufacturing Expansion and Production Cadence

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:27

    An X user 'Florida Salty Man' drove by AST's Homestead, Florida site (located on a military base) and found it is no longer a pasture, posting photos of the building where AST will increase satellite production; Kook believes this capacity is aimed at government applications, though the exact split with Midland's new special-array building isn't clear.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook says Scott Wisniewski's comments on a prior call led him to believe the new Midland building is for Golden Dome-focused arrays that may differ from typical communication-satellite arrays, though he stresses this is his own speculation and not confirmed.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:24:18

    AST's FCC filings show the company is currently producing satellites at a rate of approximately 6 per month from its Midland facility ('we are currently producing approximately 6 satellites a month from our Midland facility'); Kook believes AST is now launch-constrained rather than production-constrained.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook expects a more synchronized, sustained satellite launch cadence once the company gets to May and June 2026, after which he believes the pace of milestones will accelerate meaningfully.

Blue Origin / New Glenn Connection

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook says there is now 'ample,' including photographic, evidence of a meaningful business relationship between AST SpaceMobile and Blue Origin, and that FM2 (an SDA government satellite) is likely to launch on New Glenn's third flight, which is one of four launches Blue Origin needs to qualify for government business — a pairing he calls synergistic for both companies, though not officially confirmed.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook notes Blue Origin's larger '9x4' ('Big Dog') rocket variant specifically named AST SpaceMobile and Golden Dome in its description of clients being served, which he took as an early hint (calling it 'hopium' at the time) that this customized rocket would be used to deliver AST's Golden Dome capabilities.

Stock Valuation Framework and Short-Seller Critique

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook argues the market is shifting AST's investment case from 'if' statements (if ARPU is X, if user counts reach Y, if the constellation is delivered, the company does $40 billion of revenue) toward 'unless' statements (the company will do $40 billion of revenue unless people stop using cell phones), citing this shift as the real catalyst for share-price re-rating, and notes the stock has already moved from roughly $40 to roughly $100 as some of those variables have been de-risked.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook references a Deutsche Bank price estimate of around $700/share for AST SpaceMobile as an example of what he considers plausible once more variables shift from 'if' to 'unless.'

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:41

    Responding to the short thesis question of 'why doesn't AT&T just do this themselves,' Kook argues incumbent MNOs and tower companies lack AST's roughly 400 RF PhDs, are structured as dividend-paying businesses unable to redirect a billion dollars of R&D spend, and are unlikely to pivot into space-based connectivity.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:24:16

    On the SpaceX competitive threat, Kook concedes SpaceX is a formidable competitor with a more credible ability to pivot than AT&T or tower companies, but argues early market-share leaders (citing Coinbase and Robinhood as analogies) tend to retain defensible positions that are hard for others to displace once a market becomes large.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:47:54

    Kook says he personally knows the short-seller from Raging Capital, whose thesis is that AST is 'Iridium IPO 2.0'; Kook dismisses this as a conclusion someone would reach after only about 5 minutes of due diligence.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:47:54

    Kook cites a short-seller who writes as '@valuations,' whose thesis conceded that if AST's Golden Dome ('hopium') speculation turned out to be true, it would undermine his own short case — which Kook notes happened almost immediately after, when the Golden Dome contract was confirmed.

Elon Musk / Morgan Stanley Coverage Theory

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook theorizes that an X/Twitter outage occurring around the same time as the Golden Dome announcement, combined with Morgan Stanley excluding ASTS from a space-sector industry report, reflects a deliberate effort by Elon Musk to muffle coverage of AST SpaceMobile, speculating banks with SpaceX IPO relationships are avoiding positive ASTS coverage to avoid upsetting Musk ahead of a potential SpaceX IPO.

FCC Regulatory Approval Status

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook says the FCC continues to meet with AST SpaceMobile and is 'getting pretty close' to granting full Supplemental Coverage from Space (SCS) market access approval for AST's broader US constellation, beyond the Special Temporary Authorities (STAs) it currently operates under; he expresses high confidence this approval will ultimately happen, though he doesn't know the timing or market reaction.

EU Spectrum / SatCo / Vodafone

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook notes the EU is skeptical of relying on SpaceX for satellite services and that the 2 GHz mobile satellite band currently used by Viasat and Echostar (licenses expiring next year) is entering a new allocation process; he believes SpaceX won't win that spectrum and that Vodafone, via the SatCo joint venture (structured as a fully European entity), is well-positioned to secure it instead.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook flags a risk that escalating US-Europe tensions (referencing the Greenland situation) could Balkanize relations to a degree that complicates AST's EU spectrum ambitions, though he still views AST's European-controlled SatCo structure as putting it in a strong position to serve the EU market with Vodafone.

Big Idea / Secular Trend Thesis

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  • Kook Speculation 00:00:27

    Kook frames 'Space 2.0' as a secular megatrend comparable to the rise of social media or SaaS, arguing that governments rallying around satellite technology (missile defense, backup GPS, resilient communications) and Starlink's roughly 10 million subscribers and rapid growth support the case for an ever-expanding total addressable market.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Citing Steve Mandel of Lone Pine Capital, Kook argues fast-growing companies that look expensive on current earnings (using Google and Nvidia as historical examples) are often actually cheap in hindsight, and that early market-share leaders in newly expanding markets tend to become hard-to-displace incumbents.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook speculates that AST SpaceMobile could someday acquire Iridium, which would immediately add roughly a $1 billion book of government business, allow upselling of improved services, let Iridium's constellation deorbit onto AST's own network for high margins, and add an estimated ~12 MHz of global spectrum cheaply, with dilution to ASTS shareholders that 'you wouldn't even notice' — explicitly framed as his own idea (debated with 'King Tut'), not company guidance.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook says he judges AST management as being in 'empire mode' (thinking in terms of a $500 billion to $1 trillion+ market cap outcome) based on aggressive moves like the SatCo venture and spectrum positioning, comparing Abel Avellan's ambition to comments Jeff Bezos has made about space being a multi-trillion-dollar market.

Corporate Governance

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:24:18

    Kook notes Mickey Mikitani (Rakuten) left AST's board this week; he explains this as standard board dynamics — Rakuten's stake fell below the ownership threshold specified in AST's investor rights agreement (following ATM sales and convertible note conversions), so the company was no longer contractually obligated to keep Rakuten's board seat, and it's generally sound practice to remove an MNO/customer from a board given competing commercial interests.

  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook points to Abel Avellan's lack of meaningful insider selling — aside from a small prepaid forward on his shares that he later rolled forward rather than letting be called away — plus his lack of a salary and modest option grant, as strong signals of an all-in owner-operator.

Near-Term Market Dynamics

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  • Kook Speculation 00:24:18

    Kook expects a market correction/pullback in the near term driven by Greenland-related tariff noise with Europe, but argues that increased US investment in missile defense stemming from the Greenland situation is actually positive for AST SpaceMobile.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:24:18

    Kook recalls that in October, the stock ran to $100 and then corrected to $50, causing some investors to panic-sell, when patience would have left them up 12-16% even at the worst entry point — a lesson in not getting shaken out of the position by volatility.

Watch Items5

  • FCC approval of AST's broad Supplemental Coverage from Space (SCS) constellation license (full US market access, beyond current STAs)

    Described as 'getting pretty close,' no firm date given Kook 00:24:18
  • More synchronized/consistent satellite launch cadence as production (~6/month) catches up with available launch vehicles

    Expected around May/June 2026 Kook 00:24:18
  • Potential MDA NOBLE (Nimble Options for Buying Layered Effects) contract award, a flexible government acquisition vehicle

    Could happen at any time (per Anpanman's characterization as an 'open invitation') Kook 00:00:27
  • EU 2 GHz mobile satellite spectrum reallocation (currently held by Viasat/Echostar), contested between SpaceX and Vodafone's SatCo

    Current licenses expire 'next year' (~2027), new allocation process underway Kook 00:24:18
  • New Glenn's third launch, believed likely to carry FM2, as one of four flights Blue Origin needs to qualify for government launch business

    Near-term, exact date/vehicle not officially confirmed by the company Kook 00:00:27

Open Questions4

  • What is the actual scope, named task order, and dollar value of AST's MDA SHIELD/Golden Dome contract? Kook notes AST was only added to an approved vendor list ('picked to get' Golden Dome), without a disclosed contract name or dollar amount.

    Kook 00:00:27
  • What will AST's ARPU (average revenue per user) actually be once commercial service is live? Kook says this remains undefined and is the central unresolved point in the short thesis that can't be disproven until it happens.

    Kook 00:24:18
  • Will FM2 in fact launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn (specifically its third flight)? Kook says the evidence is strong but not officially confirmed by the company.

    Kook 00:00:27
  • When will the FCC actually grant AST's broad SCS constellation approval, and how will the stock react to that news?

    Kook 00:24:18
2026-01-16 50:16

Anpanman - Golden Dome Unlocked

Anpanman

In an impromptu, solo X Spaces session recorded the evening the news broke (published 2026-01-16), Anpanman walks through AST SpaceMobile's selection as an IDIQ recipient on the Missile Defense Agency's 'SHIELD' program.

SHIELD is the primary contracting vehicle for the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative with a $151 billion shared program ceiling over 10 years. He frames the selection as long-awaited validation of the 'dual-use' defense thesis that community researcher CatSE (Katzy) championed since 2021-2022.

He also walks through the mechanics of the award and a second pending opportunity (MDA 'Noble'), reacts to the stock's jump toward $107, and pushes back on skeptical analysts and short sellers.

His headline conclusion: 2026 is shaping up to be the year defense revenue becomes the dominant, and increasingly unignorable, part of AST SpaceMobile's story.

Key Takeaways

  • AST SpaceMobile was named an IDIQ (Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity) recipient on the Missile Defense Agency's SHIELD program (Scalable Homeland Innovative Enterprise Layer Defense), the primary contracting vehicle for the Golden Dome missile-defense initiative, with a program ceiling of $151 billion shared across multiple awardees over 10 years.
  • The IDIQ award itself is not a guarantee of specific revenue — it prequalifies AST as a 'program of record' so the company can now compete for and win individual Golden Dome task orders; Anpanman spitballs this first tranche could be worth roughly $1 to $2.5 billion to AST, though he stresses this is an estimate.
  • A second, potentially larger Golden Dome-related opportunity called MDA 'Noble' (an umbrella vehicle for rapidly funding non-traditional defense contractors on space-based sensors and electronic warfare) is still pending; Anpanman characterizes today's award as 'big' and Noble as potentially 'massive.'
  • ASTS stock moved from about $101.30 (where Anpanman bought 2,000 shares) up through $103.30 (where he bought 2,000 more) to a reported $107.36 the following session on the news.
  • AST President Scott Wisniewski has guided that a majority of 2026 revenue will come from defense contracts, with meaningful commercial MNO revenue not expected until 2027; Anpanman characterizes this as implying 'hundreds of millions' of revenue in 2026, though he frames the specific figure as his own read on Scott's comments.
  • FM1 and FM2 (HALO-program prototype satellites for the Space Development Agency) are sitting at Cape Canaveral awaiting launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3; Anpanman believes the launch has slipped from a January target to likely February, possibly March, due to government-requirement changes and New Glenn booster-refurbishment delays.
  • Community researcher CatSE (Katzy) is credited as having first argued AST's large phased-array satellites could serve non-communications defense applications (radar sensing, GPS backup, electronic warfare) as far back as 2021-2022, sustaining that thesis through the stock's early-2024 lows near $2.
  • Wall Street analysts B. Riley and Scotiabank downgraded ASTS in the days just before the Golden Dome award, and their price targets ($105 for B. Riley, $45.60 for Scotiabank) are now well below the trading price, which Anpanman expects will force upward ratings/target revisions.
  • Anpanman rebuts a bearish Seeking Alpha piece (Pythia Research) that flagged American Tower's sale of 2.28 million ASTS shares as a risk signal, arguing it reflects broader tower-sector stress from satellite-based supplemental coverage (citing American Tower's $1.9 billion cash versus $45 billion debt) rather than a negative read on AST specifically.
  • Short interest in ASTS was roughly 40.8 million shares on January 9, falling to about 38.5 million shares by January 12 and holding flat through January 14, per Anpanman's data (he states the January 9 figure with an ambiguous 'billion' unit that appears to be a slip for millions given the later figures).

Detailed Discussion11 topics

The MDA SHIELD Golden Dome Award

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST SpaceMobile was named a recipient of the 3rd tranche of the Missile Defense Agency's SHIELD program (Scalable Homeland Innovative Enterprise Layer Defense), the primary contracting vehicle for the Golden Dome initiative to develop a multi-domain system to detect, track and intercept advanced threats like hypersonics, ballistics and cruise missiles; the total program ceiling is $151 billion shared across multiple awards over 10 years.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    The award is an IDIQ (indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity) contract vehicle — it doesn't hand AST guaranteed revenue directly but 'prequalifies' the company to then go pursue billions of dollars of specific Golden Dome task-order work, moving AST from a one-off experiment to a program of record.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Spitballing potential dollar value, Anpanman estimates this first tranche could be worth roughly $1 billion to $2.5 billion to AST, explicitly caveating 'we'll see.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He notes the timing lines up with what the community had been expecting — Space Mob had pushed its prediction to 'mid-January,' and the award materialized on January 15.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman is hopeful AST issues a formal PR/8-K on the award (as it did previously for the SDA and DIU awards) and says if he were company counsel he'd consider the news material enough to require an 8-K filing at minimum.

Dual-Use Thesis and Community Due Diligence

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Community researcher CatSE ('Katzy') is credited as the first, going back to 2021-2022, to argue that AST's large phased-array satellites could be used for radar sensing, GPS backup, electronic warfare and other non-communications military applications beyond connectivity — roughly 10 different defense use cases are now understood to be applicable.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    CatSE kept publishing this dual-use due diligence even during the stock's trough near $2 in early 2024, despite skepticism at times from within the community, including from Anpanman and Kook themselves.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman references having circulated Golden Dome-themed graphics referencing Cerberus (a defense-focused investor with a stake in Ligado) standing over a golden dome above the US, tied to the fact that Cerberus co-founder Steve Feinberg serves as the Department of War's number two — used as part of the community's argument that Ligado spectrum would be integral to Golden Dome.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Scott Wisniewski has stated that the defense business will be bigger than the commercial business in the company's early years.

MDA 'Noble' — the Second Golden Dome Opportunity

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    AST is separately being evaluated for MDA 'Noble,' described as a specialized umbrella vehicle ('nimble options for buying layered effects') designed to bypass traditional slow military procurement, letting MDA rapidly fund non-traditional contractors like commercial space companies through submitted white papers rather than a single rigid contract.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    The Noble solicitation calls specifically for space-based sensors and integrated non-kinetic/electronic warfare capabilities — detecting RF launches, tracking hypersonic signatures, jamming and intelligence-gathering — which Anpanman argues fits AST's phased-array satellites well with only limited software/hardware changes.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman characterizes today's SHIELD award as 'big' in the company's own sizing language, while the still-pending Noble opportunity could be 'massive'; he is uncertain on timing, guessing it could come in 'a few days, weeks.'

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He argues this Noble-type work would shift AST's positioning from a communications provider (data to warfighters, drone/vehicle coordination) toward being part of the actual 'kill chain' — detecting and stopping missile threats — which could command higher margins and stickier contracts than standard connectivity.

Existing Defense Contracts and FM1/FM2 Launch Timeline

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Heading into this award, AST already had 9 military contracts, including the SDA's roughly $43 million award; the SDA is itself part of the Golden Dome/SHIELD ecosystem.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    FM1 and FM2, currently at Cape Canaveral awaiting launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3, are HALO-program satellites — SDA funding developed these as prototypes to prove out AST's technology, and Anpanman believes HALO also pays for the launches (both the ISRO LVM3 and this New Glenn launch).

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    AST also received about $10 million from the Defense Innovation Unit (DIU), described as effectively 'Skunk Works' for the Department of War, tasked with evaluating next-generation technologies for adoption across military branches.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman believes (without full certainty) the FM1/FM2 New Glenn 3 launch has slipped from a January target to more likely February, and possibly into March, due to government-requirement changes that delayed satellite completion plus New Glenn booster-refurbishment delays tied to reusing a previously flown booster for the first time.

2026 Revenue Guidance and Production Capacity

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  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    At a recent Bank of America conference, Scott Wisniewski reiterated guidance of $50 to $75 million of second-half revenue; Anpanman thinks there's a reasonable chance it lands at the lower end given the FM1/FM2 launch delays.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    Scott has said 2026 will be the year of commercialization and wants investors to shift from counting launch cadence to counting revenue; the majority of 2026 revenue is expected to come from defense contracts, with commercial MNO revenue becoming meaningful in 2027.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman's own characterization of Scott's comments is that 2026 revenue could reach 'hundreds of millions,' implying the 9 existing defense contracts are expected to grow materially and that new Golden Dome-related orders are anticipated.

  • Anpanman Company Guidance 00:00:27

    At the same conference, Scott discussed potentially ramping satellite production from 6 per month to 10-12 per month, plus a dedicated new Midland site solely for building Micron modules, and referenced a 'government shell' — Anpanman reads this as signaling AST expects large military orders requiring a separate, third constellation dedicated to defense applications (distinct from the low-band and Ligado mid-band commercial constellations).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Manufacturing footprint has grown from what the community once considered a large 400,000 square feet to 500,000 square feet currently, with Anpanman speculating it could flex up further to 600,000-700,000 square feet.

Market Reaction and Trading Activity

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    The news broke after hours; the stock moved from about $101.30, where Anpanman bought 2,000 shares, up to about $103.30, where he bought another 2,000 shares, and was trading at $107.36 on decent volume as of the recording.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman contrasts this reaction with awards to peers like Rocket Lab, Voyager and Firefly, which he says are typically already 'priced in' and expected; he argues the market was more surprised by AST's award because most investors don't fully appreciate the non-communications applications of AST's large phased arrays.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He predicted to Kook (before the news) that the market reaction to a Golden Dome-related announcement would be very positive, and says that's what played out.

Analyst Ratings and Price Targets

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  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    B. Riley and Scotiabank both downgraded AST shortly before the award (about 1 and 3 days prior, respectively); B. Riley's downgrade nonetheless raised its price target to $105, now the highest street target and below the current trading price.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Current street price targets cited: Scotiabank $45.60 (sell), UBS $43 (neutral, stale from early December), Clear Street $87 (mid-November), Deutsche Bank $81, Roth Capital $82.50, Cantor $80, and Barclays $60 (downgraded to underweight in mid-October).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman expects most of these analysts will have to raise price targets given the news, though he expects Scotiabank specifically to resist changing its view, noting Scotia's notes since June have not meaningfully addressed the defense angle.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He suspects much of the street is waiting for further satellite launches and unfolding events before getting more aggressive with rating/target upgrades, which he calls a fair posture.

Short Seller Pushback

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    A short seller referred to as 'Raging Capital,' who Anpanman says made his money on message boards before moving into asset management/venture, argued a week or two prior that AST is 'basically another Iridium'; Anpanman rebuts this, arguing the world and technology have changed since the 1990s and that AST provides connectivity to unmodified phones rather than requiring a dedicated $1,000 satellite handset.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    A short seller write-up (unnamed) argued AST would only ever be a minor sub-prime contractor with low margins on any defense work; Anpanman disputes this, saying AST is actually a prime contractor for the SDA and receives direct work with meaningfully sized contracts.

  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    Seeking Alpha contributor Pythia Research published a piece titled 'AST SpaceMobile Reality Check,' which Anpanman dismisses as a low-quality outlet; one claim he specifically rebuts is that American Tower sold 2.28 million shares pre-launch as a valuation-driven risk-management signal, despite retaining a 0.84% economic stake.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He also references a short seller nicknamed 'Valuations,' who he says built a meme/cult-framing short thesis rather than substantive new arguments, and notes newer short sellers tend to omit or downplay the military side of the business because they don't understand it.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    Short interest was about 40.8 million shares on January 9, falling to about 38.5 million shares by January 12, and held roughly flat through January 12-14; he attributes some of the move to short covering and some to convertible-bond arbitrage traders delta-hedging.

American Tower Stake Sale and Tower Sector Read-Through

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    Anpanman contextualizes American Tower's share sale as part of a broader tower-sector decline: after EchoStar pulled back its own network buildout, the market lost a 4th major tower spender, pressuring American Tower, Crown Castle and SBA share prices, compounded by growing fears that Supplemental Coverage from Space will erode tower demand.

  • Anpanman Confirmed 00:00:27

    He cites American Tower's balance sheet as having $1.9 billion of cash against $45 billion of debt, framing the sale of Class A shares (while retaining Class B shares) as sensible financial planning that also captured a strong return, rather than a bearish signal on AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He draws a parallel to Iridium, which he says the market similarly dismissed on the supplemental-coverage-from-space threat before 'suddenly' waking up, with Iridium's stock falling from around $40 to about $19.

Valuation Debate

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  • Anpanman Disagreement 00:00:27

    Responding to a listener referencing a Substack calling Golden Dome 'hopium,' Anpanman rejects the framing and compares persistent short-seller skepticism to years of similar valuation-based shorting against Tesla, arguing hedge funds' short time horizons cause them to miss longer-term inflection points.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He recalls Scotiabank's bear-case model using an out-year free cash flow build of roughly $3.5 billion, growing to $6 billion, then $10 billion, then about $17.5 billion (around 2032), noting that reaching $17.5 billion in annual free cash flow would place AST among the top 10 public companies by free cash flow — using Scotia's own bearish model to argue the long-term case is actually very large.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He argues the short case has historically focused only on commercial adoption/willingness-to-pay and largely ignored the defense side, where no one has really built a quantified valuation argument; he guesses defense could be worth 'a few billion' in annual revenue depending on use cases, covering radar sensing and electronic warfare in addition to communications.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    On sum-of-the-parts valuation of AST's roughly $40 billion market cap, he pushes back on the idea that a $12-15 billion valuation for the Ligado spectrum alone is excessive, leaving $25-30 billion for the combined commercial and military business, arguing this isn't unreasonable and drawing a parallel to EchoStar, whose spectrum was undervalued by the market until AT&T and Starlink/SpaceX-related deals repriced it.

Broader Context: Golden Dome Urgency, Geopolitics, and Sector Sentiment

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  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He notes the Trump administration has stated a goal of having Golden Dome operational before the President leaves office, adding time pressure to the buildout and reinforcing the case for well-resourcing capable providers like AST.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He frames the broader competitive dynamic as the US and its space companies (including AST and Starlink) versus China's efforts to replicate US space capabilities, rather than AST and Starlink being true adversaries, noting the commercial market is large enough for both.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He references FCC Chair Carr's comments identifying direct-to-cell as a key area of US leadership focus, and cites Starlink's use in Iran amid Russian-technology jamming as an example of satellite connectivity's dual-use, defense-relevant value (e.g., backup GPS, electronic warfare/jamming resilience).

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He mentions roughly 4 to 5 new space-focused ETFs are about to launch, drawing an analogy to the early days of crypto investing when the space was overlooked before becoming mainstream, and notes space stocks were among the top performers of 2025 and have continued into 2026.

  • Anpanman Speculation 00:00:27

    He draws analogies to Amazon (dismissed early for needing to 'sell every book on earth' before expanding into AWS) and Nvidia (graphics processors expanding into other applications) to argue AST is similarly expanding beyond its original commercial-broadband use case into detection/radar applications.

Watch Items4

  • Formal company PR and/or 8-K filing confirming the MDA SHIELD/Golden Dome award

    Expected 'tomorrow' per Anpanman, following the after-hours news Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Second Golden Dome-related award via the MDA 'Noble' program

    Uncertain — Anpanman guesses 'a few days, weeks' Anpanman 00:00:27
  • FM1 and FM2 satellite launch on Blue Origin's New Glenn 3

    Originally targeted for January; Anpanman believes it has slipped to likely February, possibly March Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Analyst rating/price-target revisions from Scotiabank, B. Riley, UBS, Barclays, Deutsche Bank, Roth Capital, Cantor and Clear Street in response to the Golden Dome news

    Not specified — expected in coming days/weeks Anpanman 00:00:27

Open Questions5

  • Will AST SpaceMobile issue an official PR or 8-K filing confirming the SHIELD/Golden Dome award, and when?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • When will the MDA 'Noble' program opportunity be decided, and how large could that second award be relative to today's SHIELD award?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will FM1/FM2 actually launch in February, or slip further into March, given New Glenn booster-refurbishment and prior government-requirement delays?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • How should investors quantify the value of AST's defense business, given that no one has built a rigorous valuation framework for the non-communications (radar, electronic warfare, PNT) use cases?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
  • Will 2026 second-half revenue land at the low end of the previously guided $50-75 million range given launch delays, or will new defense task orders push results higher?

    Anpanman 00:00:27
2026-01-12 51:14

Kook's Weekly - January 11

Kook

In this solo 'Kook's Weekly' update (Jan 11, 2026), Kook works through a volatile week for ASTS.

He covers a Scotiabank downgrade that was quickly overwhelmed by a bullish Bank of America rebuttal, forensic speculation about what Bell Canada CEO Mirko Bibic actually signed during his Midland facility tour, and FM2's FCC launch authority clearing.

He ties in expanding global D2D mandates (UK, Australia, India), Nokia's tactical NTN hiring, SatCo's first commercial hire, and a PNT/electronic-warfare deep dive to argue ASTS should be valued as a scalable 'platform' rather than a niche point solution.

He closes by picking apart short-seller theses (Scotiabank, Anthony Bozza, 'Valuations') and warning new investors about the mechanics and dangers of leveraged ETFs like the double-long ASTX.

Key Takeaways

  • Scotiabank published a bearish downgrade/hit-piece on ASTS citing no retail customers yet, the challenge of orbiting 50 satellites, and evidence of slow user adoption in the US and Japan; Bank of America countered with a 'zoom out' note pointing to 2026 catalysts, and the market absorbed and quickly bought back the dip, which Kook reads as a sign of strong underlying investor conviction.
  • Kook analyzes AST SpaceMobile's press photo of Bell Canada CEO Mirko Bibic touring the Midland facility and signing hardware; because six or more satellites are likely in the clean room at any time under the current ~6-satellites/month production cadence and CEOs would not be allowed to sign satellites inside a clean room, Kook concludes Bibic likely signed a Batch 2 (or later) satellite rather than a Batch 1 unit, and separately speculates that AT&T's McElroy signed a Batch 1 satellite in an earlier facility-tour photo.
  • The FCC granted launch/operate authority for FM2 (the second Block 2 BlueBird), which Kook calls confirmation that the bears who doubted expedited FCC approval timelines were wrong; FM2 is now at the launch facility.
  • FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has publicly said the agency intends to clarify SCS (Supplemental Coverage from Space) rules so that 'billions of dollars of investment can move forward'; Kook notes ASTS doesn't need final SCS service-link approval yet but will need it within the next couple of months once satellites are deployed and unfurled.
  • Kook's own orbital-tracking ('birdwatching') of FM1 shows no evidence yet of antenna unfurling, but does show signs the satellite has achieved a more stable orbit and flight plan, which he interprets as evidence FM1 has finished or improved its detumbling process.
  • India is allocating 30 MHz of spectrum to enable vehicle-to-vehicle mesh connectivity for cars (e.g., advance warning of traffic jams), which Kook cites as a new government mandate expanding ASTS's total addressable market (TAM); separately, the UK Space Agency is seeking D2D solutions to supplement its emergency services network, following Australia's push to cover Outback dead zones.
  • Nokia posted five new job openings explicitly tied to an NTN (non-terrestrial network) cooperation project with ASTS SpaceMobile, described as delivering 'tactical' (not casual/consumer) defense solutions, which Kook cites as evidence telecom partners are building out dedicated internal teams to sell ASTS-based solutions.
  • Kook argues ASTS should be valued as a scalable 'platform' (like user-generated-content businesses, which can command 3x-10x higher multiples than point solutions) rather than a niche connectivity vendor, and cites SatCo's first hire — a commercial/sales lead, per contributor Peter Lindmark — as evidence the company is building out capacity-monetization infrastructure consistent with the platform thesis.
  • Kook contrasts GPS (low-power, one-way broadcast, easily jammed) with ASTS's signal, which he says can operate below the noise floor to avoid detection/jamming or can overpower other RF traffic to avoid being blocked, tying this to a Wall Street Journal article on electronic warfare and the EA-18G Growler's jamming role, and arguing US underinvestment in this area strengthens the case for satellite-based PNT and jam-resistant links.
  • Kook rebuts short seller 'Valuations' (a Substack writer) by noting that several of the short thesis's stated 'upside risks' — AT&T offering FirstNet beta service in H1 2026, successful satellite launches, and a SpaceX IPO potentially near $1.5 trillion creating sector FOMO — are actually the Space Mob's base case, and separately recalls that a prior short thesis (Kerrisdale) was factually wrong about ASTS using gallium arsenide solar panels, which he cites as evidence that short sellers have previously misunderstood the technology (even though the stock still fell 90% at one point despite that error).
  • Kook warns new investors against holding leveraged ETFs like the double-long ASTX for the long term, explaining that daily rebalancing to maintain tracking error causes these funds to 'buy high and sell low' (gamma burn/volatility decay), such that someone who bought ASTX the last time the underlying stock hit $100 would be down roughly 30% due to decay alone, even though the vehicles can outperform in a straight-up, low-volatility rally.
  • Kook discusses EBIT versus EBITDA for ASTS, arguing EBITDA is misleading here because satellites have real economic depreciation (they deorbit and must be replaced), and that flying at a higher altitude (670 km) versus SpaceX's lower altitude gives ASTS a more capital-efficient, slower satellite-replacement (depreciation) profile, which he believes the market will eventually reward with a higher multiple via free-cash-flow conversion.

Detailed Discussion10 topics

Market action: Scotiabank downgrade vs. Bank of America rebuttal

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    Last week was volatile without much real news: it started with a rally ('ripathon'), then Scotiabank came out with what Kook calls a 'firefighting' downgrade/hit-piece trying to put out the rally, and Bank of America then 'mobbed' Scotiabank's take with a supportive note.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Reading the Scotiabank report directly, Kook paraphrases its key points: ASTS has 'without yet a single retail customer,' faces 'the challenge of orbiting 50 satellites,' and there is 'evidence of slow user adoption in the US and Japan'; the report also states the analyst 'cannot remember a single time when the company got timing right' on guidance.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook expected the stock to correct for a week or two given how much options-driven 'heat' had built up, but was surprised at how quickly the decline was bought back up after Bank of America's note reminded investors to 'zoom out': 2026 features a likely SpaceX IPO, regulatory changes, ramping services, and increasing federal/defense support for space technology.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook believes ASTS's guidance/timing disclosure practices (i.e., the company being vague about exact launch timing) will likely change in the next 3 to 6 months as more milestones 'shake down.'

Production and testing: the Bell Canada facility-tour clue

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  • Kook Untagged 00:00:28

    AST SpaceMobile released a hype video previewing 2026 but did not include the Batch 1 delivery announcement Kook is waiting for, which he calls 'the big one.'

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:00:28

    Scott Wisniewski presented at CES; Kook says Scott reliably describes what the company will do but not the specific week, month, or sometimes even year a satellite will launch, and recommends listening directly to Scott's presentation rather than relying on private company conversations, which Kook says create a false sense of insider knowledge.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:00:28

    AST SpaceMobile released a press photo/announcement of Bell Canada CEO Mirko Bibic and his team touring the Midland facility 'for a closer look at the technology behind the Bluebird program,' notably showing him signing something rather than being announced as visiting a specific satellite.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Based on prior disclosure changes (the company added 'testing' language to its production-cadence updates, detailing arrays and satellites in construction), Kook estimates the production funnel is moving roughly 6 units per month, which implies 1 to 6+ satellites are likely in the clean room at any given time; since a CEO would not be allowed to sign a satellite inside a clean-room environment, Kook concludes Bibic likely did not sign a Batch 1 satellite.

  • Kook Speculation 00:00:28

    Kook's conclusion: the implication is that Bibic signed something from Batch 2 or beyond, not Batch 1, since worst-case (Batch 1 far from done) would contradict prior company disclosures and common sense; he separately guesses that AT&T's McElroy signed a Batch 1 satellite in an earlier similar facility-tour photo, since AT&T should logically sign the first batch of commercial satellites.

Regulatory and orbit updates

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  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    FM2 was granted FCC launch/operate authority and is now sitting at the launch facility; Kook says this proves wrong the bears who argued the volume of satellite design changes made expedited FCC approval impossible.

  • Kook Company Guidance 00:08:22

    Gateways are being signed both domestically and abroad, and FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has spoken about clarifying SCS rules so that 'billions of dollars of investment can move forward'; Kook says ASTS doesn't need SES/SCS service-link approval yet, but will need the broader regulatory cover 'in the next couple months' once satellites are deployed and unfurled and the network needs to scale beyond STAs/testing.

  • Kook Untagged 00:08:22

    In the FCC docket, SpaceX has been filing comment letters contesting the license modification; Kook characterizes this as ongoing 'lawfare'/typical legal wrangling near the end of the comment process, with contributor Katzi tracking the filings closely.

  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook restarted his independent orbital-tracking ('birdwatching') of FM1 using data separate from contributor Katzi's; he sees no evidence yet of FM1's antenna unfurling, but does see evidence of a more stable orbit and flight plan, suggesting FM1 has likely finished or improved its detumbling process.

Partner financing and global TAM-expanding mandates

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  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Saudi Telecom (stc) raised a large sukuk (Sharia-compliant bond financing); Kook hasn't seen a press release confirming that money has hit ASTS's account and doesn't expect one, but says tracking partner financings can offer clues about their ability to meet contractual obligations, and he'd feel relatively comfortable about Saudi credit exposure specifically.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    Following Australia's push to cover Outback dead zones, the UK Space Agency is now seeking D2D solutions to supplement its emergency services network; Kook frames these government initiatives as accelerating adoption of technology that would likely have happened anyway, first solving coverage gaps and then adding redundancy for disaster events.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    India is allocating 30 megahertz of spectrum to enable a vehicle-to-vehicle mesh communication mandate for cars (e.g., advance warning of traffic jams ahead), which Kook flags as a new and TAM-expanding government mandate he'd only just learned of via a follower's tip.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    Nokia posted five new job openings explicitly referencing an NTN (non-terrestrial network) cooperation project with 'ASTS SpaceMobile,' describing 'end-to-end customized tactical solutions' (not casual/consumer) for its defense portfolio customers.

The 'platform' valuation thesis and SatCo

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  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook argues ASTS should be valued as a scalable 'platform' rather than a niche point solution; platforms can command 3x-10x higher valuation multiples because usage/value propagates via other companies' and individuals' creativity, capital, and sales efforts rather than the platform owner's own resources.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:08:22

    Contributor Peter Lindmark reported that SatCo made its first hire — a commercial/sales lead — which Kook cites as direct evidence supporting the platform-monetization thesis: SatCo will help oversell/maximize capacity utilization since satellite coverage is never used at 100% concurrency by any single region's subscribers.

  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook expects consumer use cases (e.g., India's car mesh use case, recreational use, IoT) to expand dramatically once ASTS opens its platform to third-party-driven use cases, similar to how military use cases are already emerging.

PNT (position, navigation, timing) and electronic warfare

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  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook, citing contributor Socrates's technical work (part of Kook's pinned-tweet DD), contrasts GPS — a low-power, one-way broadcast that is fragile and easy to jam, as seen in recent war theaters — with ASTS's signal, which he says can either operate under the noise floor (unjammable/undetectable) or be powerful enough to overwhelm other RF traffic and avoid being blocked.

  • Kook Speculation 00:08:22

    Kook references a Wall Street Journal article on electronic warfare highlighting the EA-18G Growler jamming aircraft's role in recent military raids and raising the question of whether the US is underinvesting in electronic-warfare technology because it's 'not as sexy'; he believes the US military will increase investment in this area, strengthening the case for ASTS's jam-resistant, satellite-based PNT capability.

History, first principles, and pricing/ARPU economics

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  • Kook Untagged 00:23:57

    Kook highlights a 2022 tweet/sketch series by contributor Katzi (an early technical explainer of ASTS's mechanical physics) and credits Katzi and software engineer/AI-chip expert Steve Larison — who explained Doppler compensation and core-network integration — with together enabling early conviction, including his and Anpanman's, in the technology.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook endorses Katzi's 'first principles' framework for evaluating ASTS: understanding whether the company is the low-cost/most-efficient user of spectrum for MNOs, since being the most efficient and scalable deployment of spectrum should, over time, lead to good outcomes even if the specific catalysts can't be predicted in advance.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    On pricing/ARPU: Kook argues that even if satellite connectivity were nominally 'free' to consumers (as some initially thought SpaceX's offering would be), MNOs still effectively pay for it because reduced customer churn has real economic value — avoiding customer acquisition cost (CAC), which he illustrates via AT&T's expensive NFL ad spend offering free phones to switch carriers; a contributor ('at Keys Minnesota') wrote up the various avoided MNO costs (CapEx efficiencies, etc.) that could support MNOs paying ASTS billions per year.

  • Kook Disagreement 00:23:57

    Kook frames the core of the bear case as skepticism that enough consumers will pay for the service or that the addressable base is large enough (attachment rates and ARPU); he says he believes the evidence points to large attachment rates and use cases (communication and non-communication), but acknowledges this is genuinely debatable and different investors can reasonably land on different sides.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook argues the 'first three legs' of ASTS bear risk — technology, financing, and regulatory — are now largely resolved (reflected in a ~$100 stock price), and that the next leg of scrutiny will be execution and whether the commercial model actually delivers, which is why short-seller focus and volume will increasingly shift there.

SpaceX comparison: altitude economics, EBIT/EBITDA, and market cap

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  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook explains why he reconciles his financial models to EBIT rather than EBITDA for ASTS: satellites experience real economic depreciation because they deorbit and must be replaced, unlike non-depreciating assets (e.g., land), so EBIT properly captures the ongoing capital cost of maintaining the constellation, and he tracks this via an independent depreciation build in his model.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    ASTS is able to fly its satellites at 670 kilometers because its high signal power allows it to close the link budget from higher altitude, whereas SpaceX must fly lower, causing its satellites to deorbit (and need replacement) at a nonlinearly faster rate, meaning more 'dollars in orbit' burn up faster; Kook believes the market will eventually reward the more capital-efficient company (ASTS) with a higher multiple via free-cash-flow conversion.

  • Kook Speculation 00:23:57

    Kook cites a tweet from Peter Adderton (an MNO CEO) noting SpaceX's implied market cap exceeds the combined market cap of the world's largest MNO carriers; Kook says this doesn't have to be 'wrong' since a disruptive new business model (he compares it to Apple in phone hardware) can be worth more than the legacy, high-CapEx, price-competitive businesses it depends on, and says he'd prefer a publicly traded SpaceX for price transparency.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:23:57

    ASTS filed for S-band access internationally, which Kook connects to the prior Inmarsat/Ligado bankruptcy adversary proceeding; he says this shows ASTS 'showing its hand' to Inmarsat (owned by Viasat) that it intends to pursue global S-band and L-band spectrum acquisition.

The bear cave: engaging short sellers

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  • Kook Rumor 00:47:13

    Kook is trying to get more short sellers to publicly engage and explain their reasoning; he references a prior instance where a well-known short seller ('Anthony Bozza') was rumored to be short ASTS via a conference tweet, causing concern, but says the key is getting shorts to actually explain what they see that bulls don't.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook read and enjoyed (found well-written, with some humor) a Substack short thesis by a writer going by 'Valuations,' but critiques it as being partly driven by behavioral pattern-recognition (treating high retail community activity/'Space Mob' as a red flag) and notes the author concedes he doesn't fully understand the underlying technology.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook recalls that a prior short thesis (from Kerrisdale, referenced as 'Caristel') was factually wrong in claiming ASTS used expensive gallium arsenide solar panels as part of an economics argument against the company, which Kook says was evidence the short seller didn't understand the technology — though he notes the stock still fell about 90% at one point despite that error, so being technically wrong didn't stop the short thesis from working short-term.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook points out that several of 'Valuations’' stated upside risks to the short thesis are effectively the Space Mob's base case: AT&T offering FirstNet beta service in the first half of 2026 (already announced), successful satellite launches, and a SpaceX IPO potentially near $1.5 trillion creating increased sector FOMO.

  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook mentions the Space Mob has produced a 'vibe-coded' valuation model that Anpanman spent significant time checking (Kook has not reviewed it himself), and notes trader Kevin Mack has reportedly capitulated to a bullish view with a $1,000 price target, while cautioning that Kevin Mack's specific risk framework/regime changes frequently.

Investor warning: leveraged ETF mechanics

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  • Kook Speculation 00:47:13

    Kook warns new investors against holding leveraged ETFs like the 2x-long ASTX for long-term positions: because these funds rebalance daily to maintain their tracking ratio (buying more when the stock rises, selling when it falls), the mechanism effectively 'buys high and sells low,' causing underperformance (gamma burn/volatility decay) in almost any scenario except a straight, low-volatility uptrend.

  • Kook Confirmed 00:47:13

    As an example, Kook cites a tweet showing that an investor who bought ASTX the last time the underlying ASTS stock peaked near $100 would be down roughly 30% today due to gamma burn/decay alone, separate from the underlying stock's own price action.

Watch Items6

  • Batch 1 BlueBird satellite delivery announcement

    Not yet given; Kook calls it 'the big one' he's still waiting for Kook 00:00:28
  • SCS/service-link regulatory approval needed once satellites are deployed and unfurled

    Within the next couple of months Kook 00:08:22
  • Possible change to ASTS's guidance/timing disclosure practices

    Next 3 to 6 months Kook 00:00:28
  • AT&T FirstNet beta service launch

    First half of 2026 (already announced per Kook) Kook 00:47:13
  • Potential SpaceX IPO

    2026, potentially valued near $1.5 trillion Kook 00:47:13
  • Possible live debate/Spaces between Kook and short seller 'Valuations'

    This week or sometime soon (unconfirmed) Kook 00:47:13

Open Questions5

  • What exactly did Bell Canada CEO Mirko Bibic sign during his Midland facility tour — a Batch 2 (or later) satellite, or something else entirely?

    Kook 00:00:28
  • Did AT&T's McElroy actually sign a Batch 1 BlueBird satellite in an earlier facility-tour photo, as Kook speculates?

    Kook 00:00:28
  • Will short seller 'Valuations' (or other shorts, e.g. Anthony Bozza) actually engage in a public debate/Spaces to explain their thesis?

    Kook 00:47:13
  • How large will consumer attachment rates and willingness-to-pay ultimately be for satellite direct-to-device service, and how much of that value will accrue to MNOs versus ASTS?

    Kook 00:23:57
  • Whether ASTS's TAM will be validated as broad/dynamic (platform case) versus a niche point solution (bear case), which Kook frames as the key determinant of whether a ~$40 billion valuation is too high, too low, or roughly fair.

    Kook 00:08:22